Promotion Shennanigans
Hope you remember everything....in 5 months:
- Dear SCC, it might be of interest to your readers that your police superintendent is making our lives at the Department of Human resources a living Hell. Here is my "rumor:"The lieutenant promotional exam has been scheduled for 2 weeks (Saturday, March 7th). After being told by our commissioner that the most recent promotees to sergeant were ineligible to sit for the exam, your superintendent quite frankly has been acting like a petulant child. Apparently there are several merit appointees recently promoted that he insists should be fast tracked to exempt "for the good of the department." He wants them to be lieutenants first. The problem is we have always required some "time in grade" to maintain at least a basic appearance of fairness and legitimacy. We "won" the argument and began the process. Your boss has now lobbied the mayor, successfully, to delay the testing process until June 15th. His idea is his friends (or Robert Tracey's?) will have 1 year as sergeant at that time, and he will hold the process hostage further until Commissioner Choi agrees to reduce the time requirement to 1 year. This whole headache blew up from the mayor trying to keep the narrative about his son's robbery on track, and the superintendent suddenly having leverage. A month ago Rahm called his insistence "unethical" and "unfair to sergeants from tests past who followed the rules, and those that have spent thousands relying on our commitment for study groups." With an election and a strange robbery, all options for maneuvering of friends and family into promotion are back on the table.
And now they're going to have to re-open the sign ups so these suddenly eligible people can sign up. What the hell kindof Department are you going to have with someone who barely has a year as sergeant, make lieutenant in the first class or two, then gets made exempt with a grand total of three years in a white shirt?
Oh yeah - a screwed up one.
Oh yeah - a screwed up one.
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posted by SCC at 5:31 AM
193 Comments:
Like this has never happened before.
Two names from the past I can think of:
Ronnie Nash: Gets shot whilewith Vrdolyak's
brother when both were detectives, and after that
began his 'miraculous rise' from Detective to
Exempt in five years!
Mike Cronin: emerges from a detective/gang specialist to Cmdr. of Gangs, and later on, to Deputy Chief of OCD, completely bypassing ANY promotional exams...it's just unbelievable!
I'm sure there are more out there. This is nothing new.
From what I understand, these "new" sgts will be allowed to take the test but will not be eligible for promotion until they have a certain amount of time in grade. This has been done before and it's probably the fair way to do it. Especially considering it has been 8 years since the last Lt's test and what feels like 15 years since the last detectives test.
This happened with Ron Huberman -- they made him exempt rank with like 3 years on the job or something like that. Granted he was never officially an official grade bump but he left as an exempt.
Keep working hard CPD it's all legit! This is a rumor we can "track and follow" what about the mayors kid s it al a lie? This should go national this is corruption at its most corrupt! "Prima facia evidence" who wrote the report on the mayors kid? False reports, rule 14 in its easiest sense? Years ago they go away with it, but now it's exposed "sunshine" just incredible!
In all fairness, the "time in grade" should be to take the promotion- not to sit for the test. considering tests come around once every 10 years a sgt. may have 8 or ten years in grade when the promotion finally comes around.
what's the point? You can be made Exempt from any pay grade. Luberman was a PO direct to Exempt!
What they actually want and will eventually get, is an all merit process. No exams at all that way the best of the best will all make it. After all we all know the best qualified got that way based on genetics or political affiliation. Tests don't mean anything they are just tests. Time in grade is just a waste of time for born leaders. Just ask West or Pena. Shitcago, my kind of town!
Time in grade is for dummies, these are born leaders. Gary is so full of himself that he really believes he can determine this by just one interview with them. Oh I forgot combine that with a phone call. LOL
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
They don't care about a basic appearance of fairness and legitimacy. They believe that you should just shut up and be glad you have a job and they will do what they want. You can expose all kinds of unfairness, nepotism, and politico on this blog, but no one outside the department really cares or will do anything about it.
It's the Chicago Way!
I was told by a supervisor in the know dthat this is the same exact reason why the department has only made 1 class(5 officers of 50 on the list) off the current Canine list even though they are terribly short handed. Canine(city dog) has been asking for several classes of 8 and it gets approved until it reaches the bosses desk and he refuses to sign off on it because certain officers that HE wants are not eligible to get promoted. Take notice after this next Canine test how fast he signs off on new classes. I guess where's there smoke there's fire, pathetic. You men and women on the current list may want to look into this.
It's no different that what he just did with the Captains. We now have Captains who were Sergeants just over two years ago.
Since they are only giving tests every eight or nine years now, it doesn't seem unreasonable to allow every one to take the test with a requirement that you have to have 2 or 3 years in grade before being eligible to be promoted. should not be promoted with less than two years in grade though.
It's a New York thing. Our boss has always said that this guy is not about best practices - which he wouldn't know if they fell on him - but about New York practices.
Are we really shocked!!! Honestly, most of these new Sgt. Are terrible nice ppl however job knowledge, leadership and delivery are not there strong points. At least pretend to be fair.
Wow!! He must have some REAL good pics of the Boss
What the hell kind of Department are you going to have with someone who barely has a year as sergeant, make lieutenant in the first class or two, then gets made exempt with a grand total of three years in a white shirt?
The kind of Department we currently have.
Like the process was ever fair. Have you ever heard of the Commander who couldn't fill out his own application to make exempt so it was filled out for him while he dictated the information?! and amazingly he was promoted the next day! It's all ---sh-t.
Fuck You Rahm
Could be true, could be concocted.
The city has had to delay exams before due to not paying the vendor of the exam on time, that could be the real reason.
As far as the "rumors" involving the mayor's son, some of that speculation has already been disproved. "Sources" were claiming that the mayor erased all the messages and phone calls from the phone and it has been reported that the offender in custody was in possession of the phone.
"What the hell kindof Department are you going to have with someone who barely has a year as sergeant, make lieutenant in the first class or two, then gets made exempt with a grand total of three years in a white shirt?"
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For this fucked up city?
Normal
I don't see the problem, let them take the test and wait to promote them until they have 3 or 5 years in grade as a Sgt. Hell there are names on the Captains list who just made Lt. in the last couple classes.
Now now SCC
Some of those "merit" Sgt's may have done well on the oral test.
Which would then make them great leaders we so desperately need. You know the "Best and Dimmest" or something like that..
You know what they say about a good oral... Right
" merit ??? Sgt."
I still think the "merit" Sgt's stars should say "Merit" as this is something to be proud of. Chosen above all 9,000 other PO's due to their skills.
Vote YES for "merit" Sgt. star's
Show your pride !!!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Like this has never happened before.
Two names from the past I can think of:
Ronnie Nash: Gets shot whilewith Vrdolyak's
brother when both were detectives, and after that
began his 'miraculous rise' from Detective to
Exempt in five years!
1/14/2015 05:37:00 AM
You left out the going to prison part. Nash did that all on his own.
It's all legit kid
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Like this has never happened before.
Two names from the past I can think of:
Ronnie Nash: Gets shot while with Vrdolyak's
brother when both were detectives, and after that
began his 'miraculous rise' from Detective to
Exempt in five years!
the same guy who has a federal prison number?
If you're on the current sgts list I wouldn't expect to get made anytime soon. According to the sgts Union we are only 40 sgts short of budgeted manpower. They won't start promoting till at least 150-200 short.. Then they usually start small with a class of 30-50. So what I'm saying is that since we are already one year out since the 2nd part of the test was finished and no class yet and still only 40 short don't hold your breath.. Especially if you're deeper on this list. Sgts are very very young these days due to the last test being so spread out. Not many sgts retiring or are gonna retire in the next 5-8 years
Heh!
CPD getting all of Rahm & Garry's "Proceedural Justice" and "Police Ethics."
Sideways...
All this to reward people who perhaps helped spin a false narrative to protect the bulge-eyed son of that little Rumplestiltskin of a mayor?
Well shit!
What about the kids of regular everyday coppers who are being negatively affected by the very intentional and fucked up shit that Rahm al-Ghoul and McLawEnforcementGypsy are doing?
...Remember to get off your asses and vote.
Rahm is terrified of higher than projected turn-out so let everybody play their part to put an end to him and his bullshit.
seems like the CPD assignment and promotional process has been, and continues to be, corrupted and infected with the same corruption as evidenced by the liberal Democratic political machine in Chicago.....Chicago...the gold standard of political corruption!
What kind of Department? The Chicago Police Department - Business as Usual - Clout Triumphs.
Just give me my pension. I am out and moving to the Caribbean. Yall can fight over this bullshit.
Oh great now I can get my lipstick out so I can kiss some ass!
Where's my retro money? I don't want a promotion, anyway!
When's the first Sgt class? The second part was taken over a year ago and the results were released 7 months ago. Let's go already.
Anonymous said...
This happened with Ron Huberman -- they made him exempt rank with like 3 years on the job or something like that. Granted he was never officially an official grade bump but he left as an exempt.
1/14/2015 06:04:00 AM
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Lupes spent 18 months - 2 yrs as a patrolman.
He then left the dept and went to DC to work for some thinktank.
Came back to Chitown several years later and was made and exempt.
Nothing in between.
No promotional exams,
just promotion.
He's had more jobs in his life than a crackhead.
Don't forget Jim Keating, his Mother is a secretary of the 11th Ward, he was made merit sergeant then straight to commander of 001st district then Deputy Chief of the entertainment district, 001st and 018th district.
I had 16 yrs on the job when I made sergeant off the test and Ronnie Nash laughted at me and said " I know what you are going through, I was a sergeant once for 6 months, HA, HA, HA
Let's see, maybe I'll go to Southwest Airlines and see if I can get hired as a pilot then I'll get the training in a couple of years.
So who are these future leaders of cpd that you're referring to?
publish that in the times and the trib
Anonymous said...
I was told by a supervisor in the know dthat this is the same exact reason why the department has only made 1 class(5 officers of 50 on the list) off the current Canine list even though they are terribly short handed. Canine(city dog) has been asking for several classes of 8 and it gets approved until it reaches the bosses desk and he refuses to sign off on it because certain officers that HE wants are not eligible to get promoted. Take notice after this next Canine test how fast he signs off on new classes. I guess where's there smoke there's fire, pathetic. You men and women on the current list may want to look into this.
1/14/2015 07:33:00 AM
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I never seen a city dog on the streets... the only place I saw a city dog, was at the academy. we all know those dog cops are well greased up with clout not brill cream.
"Hey Sir, I want to go to K9"..."Does your name end with a vowel, or start with with MC"... "Nope"...
What do you mean for two weeks on March 7th?
Yawn- We already have a screwed up department that is beyond recall. Fuck this place.
Is anyone checking the educational requirements for promotion. All these people suddenly have 4 yrs of college, really? Didn't promote uneducated Captains once all of whom promissed go finish or get a degree in 4 yrs. I think one was demoted after the 4 years and two others retired because they failed to get educated but they still got the Captains pension. Man, it is nice to have friends in high places.
This should come as no surprise. This is the "Chicago Way" of doing things. It has always been this way for as long as I can remember and probably always will be until the voters get fed up and change things at City Hall. Fat chance.
OT --
Nice story. Decency still exists -- even in some less-than-likely places.
Juvenile defendant helps save life of police officer
January 14, 2015
"(CNN)A teen who lands in lockup a few times can get on a police department's nerves.
"But officers have taken a shine to Jamal Rutledge since they arrested him in September in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. He helped save the life of the officer who was booking him. Now, he's their hero.
"Officer Franklin Foulks was filling out Rutledge's paperwork, as they sat alone in a holding area, where a surveillance camera recorded them.
"Rutledge, in cuffs, fidgeted on his seat, and stared at the floor, then he turned around to look through the security fencing behind him. That's when Foulks keeled over sideways off his stool.
"Rutledge turned around to find him on the floor grabbing his chest. The juvenile defendant yelled for help, Fort Lauderdale Police Department said in a statement Tuesday.
"He paced the processing cell and kicked the gate and quickly got other officers' attention. The officers rushed in, started CPR, called paramedics and gave Foulks a jolt with the defibrillator..."
"The juvenile defendant's quick thinking was key in saving Foulks' life, doctors told the police department."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/14/us/florida-defendant-saves-officer/index.html
Good going, Jamal. Maybe you'll turn out OK, be something, get something good for yourself in this life. I hope so.
Thank you and God bless. Best wishes to ofc. and family too.
Off topic. New Sgts class off OLD list!! Sup checked with legal affairs and there is nothing saying just cause new results were released you can't make an old class. Get ready!!!
This is going to open an avalanche of law suits both from sergeants that were not able to take the last lieutenants test and from current that have been studying for the new test that was supposed to be this month. Some sergeants have been studying since this summer in preparation. Most certainly this will be tied up in lawsuits for some time.
If this is true, it's totally fucked up. If McCarthy wants to promote his special friends then he should just make them exempts and be done with it already. Garry if your reading this, this is a major reason you are disliked and it is unfair to the majority who have several years of front line supervisory experience.
I hope the Dick's that worked the case are reading this!
Like a famous governor once said on a FED wire "This shit is GOLD", or something like this.
A lesson taught to me by a clouted Godfather if you let someone with juice slide you ain't never having any clout.
Oh my CHUY has been e-mailed a copy already.
i would send Dean the Info since he always says at the meeting he does not read the Blog.
But he "aint" the SGT's representation. Let us see what the fabled SGT's union does about this.
I check the money box. I dont care about this shitty department. It fargone corrupt and cant be fixed. My advise is to do your job and take everything brass says as bullshit. Just do whats best for you and nothing else. Work make your money,take care of your family.dont stress this job they give a rats ass for your health. Am done and feel better.
Thank you Supt McCarthy
I waited 8 years to make sergeant off of this list legit. Now they tell me I can't sit fot the Lt exam? That means I will have to wait 6 to 8 years for the next one. This means I will have 25 years on the job. I may retire by then because of the time in grade requirement and the lack of promotion opportunities in this department. Any other job has a career path. Don't begrudge those of us that actually want to have an impact on the officers in this department and work hard and study to advance
ssc is not rahm or garry it has all the makings of the 11th n 19th ward, remember keep your friends close and your enemies even closer.
Sounds like lawsuit with seniority and back pay
time in grade has nothing to do with respect the rank if you don't have any clout bury your head in the sand until retirement!
Google Garry's name. He made sgt with a whole 4 years on the job and lieutenant with 7. Then the rise began. He sees nothing wrong with it because he did it himself. He never was the police and never will be.
This is the purest form of corruption...
So....let's get this straight....The Superintendent demands at least a year in grade to even apply for a position in a unit, but you can take promotion exams without completing any time in grade? Sounds fishy to me!
I'm made Sgt last March and hit the streets in late April. I have 20 years on the job. I see no reason why I can't take the test. I have no problem with having three years in grade (that is what the Dept rule is right now) to take the promotion. I have worked with Sgts who have over a decade in grade. They couldn't lead a horse to water and are cluesless and gutless.
I hope the dept makes up their mind. I haven't studied and order in almost 10 years. I don't know the orders like other Sgts who spend their tour studying. I really don't have a prayer for merit as I have zero clout.
I agree totally with those who say this process is a joke. Shit or get off the pot!!! The Superintendant should have say as to who can take the test and not some hacks who have never been the police at city hall.
I ask everyone a simple question. Who do you want taking the test and being Lt. The guy who scored 278 on the last test and made it by score legit working the streets??? Do you want the clout baby who made it by merit in the first class and currently has some spot at headquarters letting everyone know compstat is all legit?? I take the test score guy everyday.
Jay, Pam, Dave, Robert J. Holley Chicago FBI Director and Joseph M. Ferguson, Inspector General. Was going to include the highest ranking law enforcement officers of both the United States and the State of Illinois but they proved over and over that they are completely indoctrinated pawns of the communist party and therefore would not even consider this challenge. You enjoy going after or exposing police officers who you believe have violated use of force guidelines or committed civil rights violations but why is it that any of you refuse to investigate the politicized process of promotion in the Chicago Police Department? Is it because you would be embarrassing the mayor or superintendent? Is it because you are bought and paid for by the officials or media owners of the most corrupt city in the entire United States? Is it because exposing such corruption would negatively affect your career? Are there any people of integrity left in this city or state, who have the ability to investigate the Chicago Police Promotional process or are they all pawns for the oppressive political system that exist here in Chicago? If you should decide to take on this task it is a conspiracy of epic proportions. However, many of the principals involved will cooperate in the investigation with the promise of immunity or just simply being allowed to keep their pension. There also is no shortage of retired officers and high ranking police officials who would also volunteer where to find the information you seek to present a successful case for prosecution to the US Attorney’s office. It starts with the mayor and superintendent, includes politicians from all levels of Illinois government including our alderman Mr. Ferguson. This would be a prosecution of epic proportions and would conceivably take a minimum of 2 years to gather all the facts, interview all the witnesses and hand out immunity to your best witnesses. In the end you alone would be restoring the moral of the Chicago Police Department and showing the citizens of this city, state and nation that NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.
There are plenty of book smart white shirts.
Being street smart is a thing of the past.
This is going to come back and bite the city square in the ass.
Shame on me the powers that be for allowing this to happ n.
And shame on the FOP for being silent as usual.
Get a load of this. A gal in my watch is heavy (that means she knows people and has clout). She tells people "some people are born leaders, while others are followers". Enough said. Folks, this is the way the city works. If you don't like it, too bad. I am thankful though that the white shirts leave us alone in my district and watch and everyone gets along. Does the unfairness of it all stink? Yes it does. But there is nothing we can do about it.
Dear Rahm Emanuel,
Here's a thought. Tell the media you had no idea and no part in it, but your son lied, as kids sometimes do. He did not want to embarrass you by telling you the truth about that night. Say you want to negate that police report and ask for privacy, as this is a family matter.
This would garner some sympathy for you in the upcoming election. But, it would KILL ANY LEVERAGE McSleazy is holding over you.
Surely, you know it is NOT in the best interest of the CPD to have incompetent, ill-equipped, sergeants-in-training promoted to lieutenants.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Since they are only giving tests every eight or nine years now, it doesn't seem unreasonable to allow every one to take the test with a requirement that you have to have 2 or 3 years in grade before being eligible to be promoted. should not be promoted with less than two years in grade though.
1/14/2015 07:35:00 AM
TWO whole years in grade? How about four or five?
So, a patrolman could become a lieutenant with six years on the job, by your reasoning. Thank GOD you're not in charge. (Or is that you, Garry?)
And where does this stop. Should a PPO be eligible for promotional tests? There is a reason for the time in grade requirment. Allow the chosen few the opportunity to gain some experience with a little time in grade as has been required of other members.
Anonymous CLOUT RULES said...
It's the Chicago Way!
1/14/2015 06:58:00 AM
And it didn't take McArrogant long to learn how it's done here.
No one should be surprised. If you kiss the right butt you get promoted. So all you Tact, Gang and Special Unit babies, keep up all those meaningful arrest. Those arrest will get you promoted....NOT!
They announced the test and reading list in October. Hundreds of members have paid up to $2,000.00 and committed many weekends away from their families to prepare. It has been repeated to me over and over again that this department does not care at all about its employees. That is an obvious undisputed fact. However things like this make me believe that the city is going out of their way to purposely screw with the employees. For a department that is constantly discussing "ways to improve moral" this goes directly against that.
You'll have 011 third watch, is what you'll have!
Many Sergeants have actually picked their furloughs based on the direction given by the city on the test timeline. What a joke.... Now a Sgt can't make any firm vacation plans for the remainder of the year. Actions like these clearly demonstrate that the department does not care about your family. Sorry kids.... Dad or mom has no idea when this test will be so we can't book a vacation, or worse yet you took a 1 or 2 period furlough to study and now all that effort is wasted because you will never recall at the same level in 5 months.
"What the hell kindof Department are you going to have with someone who barely has a year as sergeant, make lieutenant in the first class or two, then gets made exempt with a grand total of three years in a white shirt?"
Really? Two Words Ron Huberman.
"They don't care about a basic appearance of fairness and legitimacy. They believe that you should just shut up and be glad you have a job and they will do what they want. You can expose all kinds of unfairness, nepotism, and politico on this blog, but no one outside the department really cares or will do anything about it.
1/14/2015 06:49:00 AM"
Meanwhile, you'll have a Hog Jowled White Shirt POS sitting across the desk from you spouting how they got their Bar(s) legit
To be a Lt the requirment should be 5 years in grade (2 to take exam). You should need 10 years as a PO to make sgt (8 years to sit for exam) Why would you let someone brand new to their position take the exam? What is wrong with experience? I am sure the young coppers would disagree but they do not have the EXPERIENCE to know better. Ask anyone with 20 years on the job regardless of rank when the would have made the best LT. They will all tell you now or within last 5 years. The perspective gained is crucial to being a true leader. You can't teach experience.
been hearing a detectives class last fall. then november. then janurary. first 150. then 90. then 70. when and is that going to happen? way to boost morale and have your employees actually have hope that the process is semi fair in getting promoted to something in this department
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Who cares I get the same check on the 1st and 16th anyways. Not gonna knock a guy for taking a promotion.
Side note what's up with the retro check? I have my sweet 1b furlough coming up. Is coming on the 26th?
who cares , let them promote some qualified new sergeants that were not merit selected.
Tell that to the sgts who were not eligible to take the last LT exam and missed it by weeks or months and now had to wait 10 years to take this LT exam ! Not fair !!!!!!! Call the union get Dan Herbert on the phone !!! When you paid your fee and was told the test was 1st quarter that to me sounds like a contract !!!! I smell lawsuit !!!!
Off topic. When are they going to put the list out for CFD saw a lot of fellow P.O.'s there as well.
And now they're going to have to re-open the sign ups so these suddenly eligible people can sign up. What the hell kindof Department are you going to have with someone who barely has a year as sergeant, make lieutenant in the first class or two, then gets made exempt with a grand total of three years in a white shirt?
Thanks for the insight/info. Any ideas who the handjob they want to double promote? Wish I could say I'm shocked but you know...Good Lord, bless get me by these five years till I can max out.
make a class of EVIDENCE TECHS already!we can't wait for the new test!
They only hired 5 officers from the current canine list and they are gonna scrap it and redo the whole test. They only take 50 on the list and in past practice they have went through the entire list before creating another one. I do happen to know for a fact that two connected Po's were eliminated from the last list for because they were late for the physical agillity test. Boths Po's never really did much on the streets. I guess they want dogs handling the dogs
This happened with Brian Thompson Commander of Rahm's Detail.
It also happened with Michael Smith ex Commander of the Mayor's Detail.
Thompson is still the Commander(even though he is a patrolmen)
Smith is on the sheets here in the 18th District back as a Patrolmen. Where he actually is working, nobody knows. He was supposed to be driving Daley but I think he got the boot because we added a guy.
If the city wants to avoid a lawsuit over this they should offer all sergeants who signed up and PAID $25.00 an offer of a refund.
THEN, re-announce the exam with the NEW RULES.
After all, there is a "contractual" agreement for all those who signed up and paid who were led to believe you needed so many years in grade just to take the test and now the rules or that "contract" has changed in midstream.
However I believe the city will drop the ball as usual and it will end up costing the taxpayers big money in legal fees.
Changing the rules mid game to suit their political agenda is what the city does best.
The Unions operate after the fact and are a day late and a dollar short all the time.
Remember when McNumbnuts promoted his driver who was not even eligible.
That case was the poster child for why Merit promotions are not proper or ethical.
Kind of makes you wonder. The whole promotional process is legit from start to end. Or is this Rahm's way of creating and then introducing a problem. Rahm, trust me has the fix. Rahm and his ilk are then the knights in shining armor intervening and ultimately scheming devising a fixed it plan to put his people in place to radically transform this department. His nominees have blind allegiance and will of course do as they are told.
Ot... but same idea about clout.
Can someone please tell me why in 012 we have a person who is midnights management but will never see midnights detailed to days in commanders office. Worst part is this same person bid with midnights for furlos to get a great furlo with 9 years on the job knowing they were going to days. The order reads all administration people bid with days this person knew the best furlo they get is a full 1. Because guys with 21 years are getting 4 and 5s at the best. Tell me why this is allowed. Tell me why that in 12 we have 4 time keepers, a district secretary who has her own assisant. Why caps has over 10 people assigned, why the quiet room was turned into an office to hide more and more people. Why the burglary / robbery team has 12 people that only work days weekends off. Why a person on days bidded to the desk never works the desk taking a spot in the commanders office. 25 years on job and I never seen things so blatant in my whole career. And they want to know why activity low. Just watch day to day
Cross guard supervisor making there own hours. Just insane.
WTF
Chicago Politics at its best......
Anonymous said...
Like this has never happened before.
Two names from the past I can think of:Ronnie Nash:
Anyone recall how THAT one ended ?
Name the sgts who are capt two years ago.
This whole situation reeks of poor management.
Many industries have adopted ISO standards of operation to insure that best practices are followed throughout their organizations. Initially it seems like a lot of BS to put it in place. But once it's set up, everyone has access to the procedures and needs to follow them. Everyone, including management.
The procedures can be changed, but doing so must follow...what else....the proper procedure. It sounds bureaucratic, but having all processes written down makes it a lot harder for ass-kissers to operate.
Don't be surprised if Rauner implements ISO in state agencies to improve efficiency. In the long run it saves money.
I was forced to wait,I will retire as a sgt because of it. I didn't have a problem with it until now, change the rules in the middle of the game,I will sue.
OT: from a source at Revenue/Finance:
41st Ward aldercteature is at it again.
In a direct effort to brazenly pander to the residents this election season, a "request" was made and announced today.
Moratorium on Parkway citations on "narrow" streets.
Hammer Taxicabs on residential and business streets.
Focus on School Zones during pickup and drop off times.
Yea!!!! /sarcasm
OT continued (oops)
50th Ward has "requested/demanded" a moratorium on Truck residential parking tickets due to "massive complaints" from the people that don't have the Truck permit.
The request from my source at finance was for 24th District to hammer the residential streets with truck tickets to force the trucks onto business streets (meter or no meter they don't care.).
is it the Supe's driver??
(OT) watch the video where white house spokesman says obama and biden were during France rally with 40 world leaders why they did not attend pathetic!
http://conservativetribune.com/where-obama-was-rally/
Someone could have scored well (under 400) and made Sgt last year after waiting 9 years. I think if you are a Sgt you should be able to take the test. The list could be up 10 years again. You should though have 3-5 years as a Sgt before being eligible to make Lt. The merit people I don't care about their eligibility. One merit promotion to any position in an officer's career ( possibly 2) is all that would seem reasonable. To go from police officer to a Commander in 5 years is just not justifiable on any "merit" any person could have.
Off topic but at St Juliana's school they are planning on putting a cell tower on the roof. I guess many people feel it is a health issue, so if you leave up in Edison Park it might be worth going to the meeting on Jan 19th from 7-8 in the school hall?
We don't need more Sgts, or Lts, or Captains...
How about some flipping Detectives??
Bubblehead is getting promoted to divvy bike department.
Anybody that has been on this job expects things to be less than legit. This is Chicago after all.
What is particularly galling is that this mope of a Superintendent came in and moved everyone around while stamping his feet and telling us things were now going to be on the up and up. They are not. In fact, they are worse than ever. I will point to Mr McCarthy trying to sneak his driver into a Sgts promotion. Several of his 'guys' being "promoted in place". A promotion and more money for the same work, the same job, all for carrying Mr McCarthy's water. Of course the taxpayer foots THAT bill (Full disclosure - I am a taxpayer).
There isn't a boss on this job that speaks well of the Superintendent. Why would they? He speaks down to all of them. There is no give and take, after all he is the smartest man on the Department.
This Mayor and his ilk need to go.
ANYBODY BUT RAHM!
Sure would have been nice if I could have taken the last Lt's test, but I was only a sergeant for less than a year. I understood, and didn't bitch. Of course, I didn't think I would have to wait 8 years to take a test! Don't change the rules now. The new guys can wait just like we did.
Anonymous said...
From what I understand, these "new" sgts will be allowed to take the test but will not be eligible for promotion until they have a certain amount of time in grade. This has been done before and it's probably the fair way to do it. Especially considering it has been 8 years since the last Lt's test and what feels like 15 years since the last detectives test.
1/14/2015 05:49:00 AM
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You're wrong.
Until you had the required time in grade, you couldn't even take the test!
Now with the education requirements, you were able to take the test even if you were short credit hours, but couldn't be promoted until the required degree/hours were attained.
Anonymous said...
Like this has never happened before.
Two names from the past I can think of:
Ronnie Nash: Gets shot whilewith Vrdolyak's
brother when both were detectives, and after that
began his 'miraculous rise' from Detective to
Exempt in five years!
Mike Cronin: emerges from a detective/gang specialist to Cmdr. of Gangs, and later on, to Deputy Chief of OCD, completely bypassing ANY promotional exams...it's just unbelievable!
I'm sure there are more out there. This is nothing new.
1/14/2015 05:37:00 AM
You can add Jimmy Keating to that list.
I say bullshit to this... I missed taking the last Lt. Exam by 2 months.. This has to be the most fucked up police dept. ever.. I don't even tell people I am CPD anymore.. There was a time when I would be Poud to tell people I was a Chicago Police Officer. Can you imagine having a doctor who never passed a test in med school.
This department is going down hill fast .
Many of the lieutenants, captains and exempt they have made under Mac asshole are horrible .
Things have deteriated when th
ey took captains off of second watch .
"Maaaaannn... Fuck this raggedy muthafuckah..."
>Glug-Glug-Sploosh-Glug-Splash-Glug<
>SKRITCH!<
"POOMPH!"
WHOOO!
untill SEISER is promoted i will never believe it is legit
And the feds said the City is in substantial compliance with Shakman. LOLOLOL. Damn I just spit my coffee all over my keyboard.
Off topic. New Sgts class off OLD list!! Sup checked with legal affairs and there is nothing saying just cause new results were released you can't make an old class. Get ready!!!
1/14/2015 09:32:00
Nice try, but not true! This is an HR call, not Legal. Maybe they will slide Cleveland back in again, stranger things have happened, wink! The old list had left the building!
This is just another reason why morale is at rock bottom. The average Joe goes to work and sits back and watches the clout and corruption pass him by. Their paychecks go up while the average Joe's stays the same. Typical in Chicago.
The City will pull whatever shenanigans it wants, even if they know full well they'll lose a few lawsuits over it.
Many Sergeants have actually picked their furloughs based on the direction given by the city on the test timeline. What a joke.... Now a Sgt can't make any firm vacation plans for the remainder of the year. Actions like these clearly demonstrate that the department does not care about your family. Sorry kids.... Dad or mom has no idea when this test will be so we can't book a vacation, or worse yet you took a 1 or 2 period furlough to study and now all that effort is wasted because you will never recall at the same level in 5 months.
1/14/2015 11:43:00 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
If u want the spot so bad then this is not a problem.
"fast track" , "giving the appearance of fairness and legitimacy", etc.
What a huge fucking joke.
CPD is a cesspool of over promoted, clouted clueless wonders.
I'm certainly not saying that there aren't any legit bosses but they are few and far between and definitely the exception to the rule.
I'm soon to be maxed out and can't wait to put this place in the rearview mirror.
I was told by a supervisor in the know dthat this is the same exact reason why the department has only made 1 class(5 officers of 50 on the list) off the current Canine list even though they are terribly short handed. Canine(city dog) has been asking for several classes of 8 and it gets approved until it reaches the bosses desk and he refuses to sign off on it because certain officers that HE wants are not eligible to get promoted. Take notice after this next Canine test how fast he signs off on new classes. I guess where's there smoke there's fire, pathetic. You men and women on the current list may want to look into this.
This shit happens all to often. Quite awhile ago I applied for Canine Handler and passed every aspect.
I found out , from two very legitimate sources, that I was originally classified as highly qualified and should've been given a shot at a dog.
Lo and behold when my name crossed an exempt members desk he decided that he'd knock me down to simply qualified and that's the death knoll for getting a dog. That's an absolute true story.
That said exempt member had numerous run ins with CPD and other agencies over his excessive drinking and driving but miraculously nothing ever came of any of it.
Politics as usual.
Hey WGN, NBC & ABC pay attention! This reminds me of the last sgt's promotional list to be exact the merit sgts list. Can someone ask the Mayor or Gmac why a D/C would be allowed to make one of her minions, working in her office, a sgt and upon completing sgts school not only bring him back to her district but to the district he worked as a PO for previous 15yrs!? But it doesn't end there because he comes out of sgts school and immediately becomes a tac sgt.. Shouldn't they be required to work the street in uniform for at least 1 year? Now its been approximately 6 months since this person was meritoriously made a TAC Sgt but guess where he landed now? Back inside behind a desk as the recently and newly appointed CAP's Sgt! Does anyone see anything wrong with any of this? Is this the best and smartest way of promoting officers only to bring them back inside pushing pencils without ever completing 1yr on the streets as a sgt!?! I would refer any questions to this merit sgt or his 3 time merit D/C but you would have to be able to speak in tongues for they both sold their soul to the Devil long ago. Plus this D/C was recently moved from the westside to the northside and may still be rather busy moving in to her new location. Cronyism at its worst!
I say let patrolman take the test!!! Fuck it..n
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Don't forget Jim Keating, his Mother is a secretary of the 11th Ward, he was made merit sergeant then straight to commander of 001st district then Deputy Chief of the entertainment district, 001st and 018th district.
1/14/2015 09:00:00 AM
Didn't Constantine (oh, yes, it's Dean now) Andrews' mom do the same for him?
Question ??? Did Rahms kid reach out to the police In front of house or did he run inside house first ???
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Like this has never happened before.
Two names from the past I can think of:
Ronnie Nash: Gets shot whilewith Vrdolyak's
brother when both were detectives, and after that
began his 'miraculous rise' from Detective to
Exempt in five years!
Mike Cronin: emerges from a detective/gang specialist to Cmdr. of Gangs, and later on, to Deputy Chief of OCD, completely bypassing ANY promotional exams...it's just unbelievable!
I'm sure there are more out there. This is nothing new.
1/14/2015 05:37:00 AM
You can add Jimmy Keating to that list.
1/14/2015 03:05:00 PM
ahh jimmy keating the little lad that the first mayor daley him out fishing,jimmy very well connected after he screwed up at navy pier wonder where he went? does johny graeber still have control of the pier after retiring with his 120k yearly commanders pension?
Somebody must have some REAL good pictures of the supe!
*************************************
I know there is a tape of mc goofy on Simons boat! Somebody will release when necessary.
Anonymous said...
(OT) watch the video where white house spokesman says obama and biden were during France rally with 40 world leaders why they did not attend pathetic!
http://conservativetribune.com/where-obama-was-rally/
1/14/2015 02:33:00 PM
typical they were at home resting!
Anonymous said...
Ot... but same idea about clout.
Can someone please tell me why in 012 we have a person who is midnights management but will never see midnights detailed to days in commanders office. Worst part is this same person bid with midnights for furlos to get a great furlo with 9 years on the job knowing they were going to days. The order reads all administration people bid with days this person knew the best furlo they get is a full 1. Because guys with 21 years are getting 4 and 5s at the best. Tell me why this is allowed. Tell me why that in 12 we have 4 time keepers, a district secretary who has her own assisant. Why caps has over 10 people assigned, why the quiet room was turned into an office to hide more and more people. Why the burglary / robbery team has 12 people that only work days weekends off. Why a person on days bidded to the desk never works the desk taking a spot in the commanders office. 25 years on job and I never seen things so blatant in my whole career. And they want to know why activity low. Just watch day to day
Cross guard supervisor making there own hours. Just insane.
1/14/2015 01:35:00 PM
call 312-733-7776 that's the union ask for Greg Bella file a complaint.
Anonymous said...
Off topic but at St Juliana's school they are planning on putting a cell tower on the roof. I guess many people feel it is a health issue, so if you leave up in Edison Park it might be worth going to the meeting on Jan 19th from 7-8 in the school hall?
1/14/2015 02:40:00 PM
Former radio TV engineer...
Having worked under mega-watt transmitting towers in a previous career I don't think there is a great deal of concern in having a cell tower on top of a school or concealed in a church steeple. It should be properly shielded and gates that bar entry. Kids are more likely to have health problems from their own cell phones and hearing loss from their loud music.
What I would want to be certain of is if the parish is getting the best deal and where will the money be going.
City Department of human resources published in the sign up information that the test would be in the first quarter with part two 2-3 months behind. I planned my furlough around this factual information provided. Why else give it out in Oct if not to be used as guiding you in your 2015 furlough selection. I made extensive family travel plans and would be out my deposit. The longer this drags on will cost my family even more. No company could ever survive if they treated their employees even half as bad as the new CPD. Ridiculous. And they wonder why moral is in the toilet.
Let's not forget Fred Waller. Made lt. And was a commander one month later. Basically sgt to commander in one month.
Makes you want to go out and give your best for this city - after how considerate they are in messing with my family. Your kids are only young once, I cherish my family vacations and can only get a large chunk of time due over furlough. We plan the destination a year in advance? Now I can't plan my vacation due to an unknown timeline for the exam? Explained it to the kids. They cannot understand why the city can't just pick the date they gave me before. When your 7 and 11 year old get it and your employer doesn't it is a new low.
>>>Anonymous said...
It's no different that what he just did with the Captains. We now have Captains who were Sergeants just over two years ago.
1/14/2015 07:33:00 AM<<<
And we now have Sergeants doing the work of Captains/Watch Commanders, no extra pay of course. All part of the McHatchetman cost cutting binge.
Posted on the wrong thread earlier...
Rahm brought in McHatchetman in not only to cut to cost of the CPD but also to destroy the institutional memory and very soul of this Department.
To do this he has to get rid of all bosses who remember what it was to be the police under Old School bosses and replace them with young people who know nothing with no police skills, no people sills and will only follow his orders to get activity.
If we do not get rid of this goof it will not be too long before all the supervisors and exempts will be all his appointed people.
No could you imagine if anything like what happened between de Blasio and the NYPD were to happen here? If we were to turn our backs on Rahm or march on City Hall with all the new gold stars McNumbnuts would make threatening phone calls and the bosses would make the lives of officers miserable.
GET ACTIVITY OR ELSE!
We can only hope that sooner or later he will screw himself up enough to be dismissed and it will be something that will not take good cops with him and something that Sneed and company cannot ignore and cover up.
SCC, I was the original poster. One other thing to add-your superintendent is still angry with Commissioner Choi since we forced him to demote Officer Hardy, his driver. He was adamant that he be allowed to remain a sergeant, and developed a big rift between our departments when the mayor and law department sided with us. He really feels that he creates the rules and has treated us very childishly when we hold him to the law, even for his own good. And FYI, since all we see of him is when he throws his tantrums, our office affectionately refers to him as "McPrincess."
The city does not care - all i can hope for is that a reporter or the IG reads this, understand how it negatively affects the 750 sgts (AND THEIR FAMILIES) who signed up for the exam in October and bring it to light as an example of just how poorly this place is run.
The following was taken off of the Human Resources website. It is from the recent Shakman settlement. It states the following, "CPD’s sworn career service Positions are Police Officer, Sergeant, and Lieutenant. The Positions of Sergeant and Lieutenant will be filled from the rank below. Examinations
shall be administered for all career service sworn Positions.....If
there are no preexisting Screening or Hiring Criteria, or if CPD wishes to modify the existing Screening or Hiring Criteria, the Recruiter or Analyst will work with CPD to create or modify them." Notice the word, "modify". It also states, "This Hiring Plan is intended to provide a framework for CPD hiring for sworn titles that will survive changes in collective bargaining agreements,
technology, management practice and law." So, who is really acting like a petulant child? This hag of a city employee can complain all they want, but they might want to read their own website, better yet, you might want Ms. Choi to read it. I know, reading is hard.
If there is a lawsuit about being dumped from a detail, can there be a lawsuit about this process of promotion, merit vs. " merit" or clout? Test scores don't tell the whole story. They need to find who would actually be a good supervisor, who would help officers and citizens. We would have fewer problems if we had truly good leaders.
These shenanigans pale in comparison to the scams involving sworn members retiring to collect their substantial pensions without actually retiring. They come to work the next day and perform the same duties, but now they are civilian members of the department, collecting a pension check AND a paycheck. Deputy Chief Shear (retired patrolman), Assistant Director Hickey (retired lieutenant), Chief of Staff Roussell (retired commander), and Director O'Neill (retired commander) are just a few of the people currently benefiting from this "loophole" which allows them to "double-up" on their salaries. Consider me a "whistle-blower," as I have already given a deposition.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
There are plenty of book smart white shirts.
Being street smart is a thing of the past.
This is going to come back and bite the city square in the ass.
Shame on me the powers that be for allowing this to happ n.
And shame on the FOP for being silent as usual.
1/14/2015 10:53:00 AM
?????
Why the fuck should FOP be concerned about the LT's exam?
YOU have to be a merit SGT living in your mother's basement. I picture you as the Sgt in the NYPD you tube video in the above thread. Call Jimmy Ade from the Sgt's Ass. or Mike Ryan from the Lt's.
You are a Retard by the way.
1/14/2015 06:39:38 PM
Hell my partner hasn't even made Sgt. yet can he take the test?
Name the sgts who are capt two years ago.
1/14/2015 01:59:00 PM
Use the Data warehouse to check the 22 in Capt class. The class of 01Sept12 is VERY well represented.
Anonymous said...
I say bullshit to this... I missed taking the last Lt. Exam by 2 months.. This has to be the most fucked up police dept. ever.. I don't even tell people I am CPD anymore.. There was a time when I would be Poud to tell people I was a Chicago Police Officer. Can you imagine having a doctor who never passed a test in med school.
Apples and Oranges my friend. I don't think comparing a doctor to a supervisor in CPD is remotely comparable. We all know supervisors do less and get paid more. If we truly needed skilled supervisors then 30% would not be made "meritoriously." The problem lies when the City hires incompetent people to start the job. That's the time to have a test that people need to pass.
How about Mark Thanasaurus? Heavy Greek who went from patrolman to captain in eighty-five months. Another superstar, he also went to the penitentiary after being convicted of extortion in the Austin District scandal of the early 1970's before he was assassinated on the street one morning in 024.
25 years on job and I never seen things so blatant in my whole career. And they want to know why activity low.
1/14/2015 01:35:00 PM
Blatant is when 60% of district positions are management.
Oh yeah,and after this great promotion and a grand career as exempt they retire and get another clout heavy 150k a year job while collecting 100k pension,only for the strong and mighty cloutmen!
just saw Selma ...wow isn't the CPD like the old days. Now who's on top
This is being set up to promote Sgt T Q from 007. He runs security for Pastor Corey Brooks, a Rauner and Rham guy.
"Get a load of this. A gal in my watch is heavy (that means she knows people and has clout). She tells people "some people are born leaders, while others are followers". Enough said. Folks, this is the way the city works. If you don't like it, too bad. I am thankful though that the white shirts leave us alone in my district and watch and everyone gets along. Does the unfairness of it all stink? Yes it does. But there is nothing we can do about it."
This is what the people in power want you to believe so that nothing changes.
SCC can write posts.
You can file grievances and write letters to the media.
Create you own blog and record and post on Youtube.
You can study for the tests and pass.
You can make sure you protect yourself and allow the "heavy" to fail.
You can organize protests.
Or you can do nothing and accept what the "heavy" told you.
Chief Bob Tracey and Garry have been wreaking havoc on HR decisions for months now. The latest rumor is Bob plans to place his favorite F/2 sergeant from crime control in the director of R&D spot the day after she retires as a sergeant. She has no qualifications but much like Don O'Neal - who is pulling in a commander's pension and being paid as a civilian director for a total of well over 200gs - Bob and Garry aren't looking for a legitimate department. They are running the show just like an outfit boss and treating the place as their kingdom. Taking care of the people that helped them keep up the charade of progress along the way. If you're wondering how all the dirt is getting hidden, I'd look to the people they are handing sweetheart deals to. Fuzzy crime numbers sgt gets made director of R&D with no qualifications. One of the dumbest and laziest exempts lands control of labor affairs and HR. A driver who hears all and spends half his evenings driving around Rick 'Janitor King' Simon gets made a sgt...then gets demoted but lands on his feet in a spot making even more money. Some day karma will catch up, and maybe CPD will still be saveable. Maybe acting R&D director Jim Hickey's anticipated age discrimination lawsuit will be the start of some sunlight being shined on their schemes.
Anonymous said...
Like this has never happened before.
Two names from the past I can think of:Ronnie Nash:
Anyone recall how THAT one ended ?
1/14/2015 01:58:00 PM
In a south side chop shop that was an FBI sting. In walks Ronnie Nash, in uniform and says something like, "Hi fellas, you ya' doing?" Instead of "Up against the wall, you are all under arrest"
That was followed by a vacation in federal prison.
And lots of applause from hard working coppers who never got the promotion that people like Nash stole.
Anonymous said...
Ot... but same idea about clout.
Can someone please tell me why in 012 we have a person who is midnights management but will never see midnights detailed to days in commanders office. Worst part is this same person bid with midnights for furlos to get a great furlo with 9 years on the job knowing they were going to days. The order reads all administration people bid with days this person knew the best furlo they get is a full 1. Because guys with 21 years are getting 4 and 5s at the best. Tell me why this is allowed. Tell me why that in 12 we have 4 time keepers, a district secretary who has her own assisant. Why caps has over 10 people assigned, why the quiet room was turned into an office to hide more and more people. Why the burglary / robbery team has 12 people that only work days weekends off. Why a person on days bidded to the desk never works the desk taking a spot in the commanders office. 25 years on job and I never seen things so blatant in my whole career. And they want to know why activity low. Just watch day to day
Cross guard supervisor making there own hours. Just insane.
1/14/2015 01:35:00 PM
Jealous, aren't we? Maybe if you did just a little bit of work the Commander you put you on a "special team" as well. Go back to your mommy's basement, loser.
there are no promotions coming from the old SGT list, give it up. The Dept. does not need any SGT's
Anonymous said...
I say bullshit to this... I missed taking the last Lt. Exam by 2 months.. This has to be the most fucked up police dept. ever.. I don't even tell people I am CPD anymore.. There was a time when I would be Poud to tell people I was a Chicago Police Officer. Can you imagine having a doctor who never passed a test in med school.
1/14/2015 03:30:00 PM
First, you can't even spell "proud" so I really don't know how you could tell anyone you were proud to be a Chicago Police officer. Secondly ... you're a frigging SERGEANT. Stop whining like a pussy and go help your troops. It's not all about you.
recently promoted sergeant williams from the academy will be the next commander of 11. Just a wild guess
Big changes coming this Friday.....you heard it here first...
Whooooo whooooo whooooo...
And the feds said the City is in substantial compliance with Shakman. LOLOLOL. Damn I just spit my coffee all over my keyboard.
1/14/2015 04:16:00 PM
$$&&&&&
Drinking coffee at 4:16 pm. Listen, coffee should be consumed in moderation. Try not to overdo it as it can be very bad for your health.
Plus this D/C was recently moved from the westside to the northside and may still be rather busy moving in to her new location. Cronyism at its worst!
No female D/Cs on the North side.
OT.
By the end of Febuary, Area North will have
Less detectives on hand, then there was when it
was just Area 3.
And we now have Sergeants doing the work of Captains/Watch Commanders, no extra pay of course. All part of the McHatchetman cost cutting binge.
1/14/2015 06:13:00 PM
Lest we forget the blue shirts on the desk who are still doing the Desk Sergeants work, with no out of grade or movement on the grievances......
Yea well make some new sgts asap so we can get rid of these horrible sgts that we have in 025, on third watch. Morale is in the shitter. Then we get Pena in 025 this week I guess we are the district of the dam!
The insane fish
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Bubblehead is getting promoted to divvy bike department.
1/14/2015 02:44:00 PM
They better double lock the cash
This department is a big train wreck!!! We don't have a leader but, a immature incompetent bully!!!
Drinking coffee at 4:16 pm. Listen, coffee should be consumed in moderation. Try not to overdo it as it can be very bad for your health.
1/14/2015 10:03:00 PM
Ever hear of midnights? Just waking up at 1600hrs, drinking coffee.
Cronin was never a commander of gangs. Gangs was already dismantled under Hillard. Kline promoted Cronin from gang specialist to Deputy Chief of Narcotics. (Kline changed all the titles/units back then) Kline made sure he stuck around for 4 years for his kiss ass Cronin to retire at the high salary.
Hillard started this shit with promoting Luberman from a (retired) 3 year PO to a (civilian) Director, and he promoted Stanley to Commander with 9 years on the job. Kline followed this new trend of bullshit...and the department rapidly fell apart from there.
And Meritorious promotions just began under Hillard's regime, and again Kline followed suit with promoting via political favors and their personal kiss ass buddies.
So yes, this department took its major turn for the worst thanks to Hillard and Kline.
To 8:25 pm,
I guess you never made a typo in your life. You must be one of those that are going to be allowed to take the exam.
Go back to your mom's basement, jag off.
Signed,
Made it off test score in 2005
Marvin Shear wasn't a PO. Sure he was an old traffic man but they always called themselves businessmen.
TQ. Shouldn't be on the job let alone a whiteshirt.
how about the sgt at the canine training center that made herself and her personal dog a canine team without being on any list taking a spot from a patrolman
Why is everyone getting so upset? What are you going to do about it? Nothing. Lol!!! Lt from SWAT was a merit freight train. Sgt, Lt, Captain and soon to be a commander. He's not going to a district. He chooses to stay at SWAT to destroy the team further. Don't worry be happy!!
Anonymous said...
Cronin was never a commander of gangs. Gangs was already dismantled under Hillard. Kline promoted Cronin from gang specialist to Deputy Chief of Narcotics. (Kline changed all the titles/units back then) Kline made sure he stuck around for 4 years for his kiss ass Cronin to retire at the high salary.
Hillard started this shit with promoting Luberman from a (retired) 3 year PO to a (civilian) Director, and he promoted Stanley to Commander with 9 years on the job. Kline followed this new trend of bullshit...and the department rapidly fell apart from there.
And Meritorious promotions just began under Hillard's regime, and again Kline followed suit with promoting via political favors and their personal kiss ass buddies.
So yes, this department took its major turn for the worst thanks to Hillard and Kline.
1/15/2015 12:03:00 AM
Merit promotions began under Hillard? Don't be naive. Clout promotions have been going on forever, they just called them different things, like "Kiss my ass if you don't like it" promotions.
They started calling them "Merit" to legitimize the crooked promotional process. The "Merit" part was having the sense to get close to someone with some political whack, thereby "meriting" one's self a promotion.
Jody Weiss declared a couple of his drivers as having the "merit" to be promoted. They talk the shit out of the guy and get promoted. That's merit all right.
Anonymous said...
Name the sgts who are capt two years ago.
1/14/2015 01:59:00 PM
Mel Roman, Joe Brennan and maybe Warren Richards, (not sure about Richards) he may of been a Lt. more than 2 years, not much though.
Anonymous said...
I say bullshit to this... I missed taking the last Lt. Exam by 2 months.. This has to be the most fucked up police dept. ever.. I don't even tell people I am CPD anymore.. There was a time when I would be Poud to tell people I was a Chicago Police Officer. Can you imagine having a doctor who never passed a test in med school.
1/14/2015 03:30:00 PM
First, you can't even spell "proud" so I really don't know how you could tell anyone you were proud to be a Chicago Police officer. Secondly ... you're a frigging SERGEANT. Stop whining like a pussy and go help your troops. It's not all about you.
1/14/2015 08:25:00 PM
Hey, the guy might be missing some teeth or have a lisp or something. Maybe he types like he talks.
Ot... but same idea about clout.
Can someone please tell me why in 012 we have a person who is midnights management but will never see midnights detailed to days in commanders office. Worst part is this same person bid with midnights for furlos to get a great furlo with 9 years on the job knowing they were going to days. The order reads all administration people bid with days this person knew the best furlo they get is a full 1. Because guys with 21 years are getting 4 and 5s at the best. Tell me why this is allowed. Tell me why that in 12 we have 4 time keepers, a district secretary who has her own assisant. Why caps has over 10 people assigned, why the quiet room was turned into an office to hide more and more people. Why the burglary / robbery team has 12 people that only work days weekends off. Why a person on days bidded to the desk never works the desk taking a spot in the commanders office. 25 years on job and I never seen things so blatant in my whole career. And they want to know why activity low. Just watch day to day
Cross guard supervisor making there own hours. Just insane.
1/14/2015 01:35:00 PM
Jealous, aren't we? Maybe if you did just a little bit of work the Commander you put you on a "special team" as well. Go back to your mommy's basement, loser
Jealous?. Great answer Powers to be violate the contract, make a joke of FOP, but your happy because you have your spot.
Cronin was never a commander of gangs. Gangs was already dismantled under Hillard. Kline promoted Cronin from gang specialist to Deputy Chief of Narcotics. (Kline changed all the titles/units back then) Kline made sure he stuck around for 4 years for his kiss ass Cronin to retire at the high salary.
Hillard started this shit with promoting Luberman from a (retired) 3 year PO to a (civilian) Director, and he promoted Stanley to Commander with 9 years on the job. Kline followed this new trend of bullshit...and the department rapidly fell apart from there.
And Meritorious promotions just began under Hillard's regime, and again Kline followed suit with promoting via political favors and their personal kiss ass buddies.
So yes, this department took its major turn for the worst thanks to Hillard and Kline.
1/15/2015 12:03:00 AM
WRONG!!! when they re-established gang Intelligence he was made commander...Fact
To the idiot talking about Cronin. Cronin was promoted from Gang Dpecialist to the Commander of Gang Intelligence where he last more than a year BEFORE being promoted to Dep Chf of Organized Crime. Get your facts straight asshat.
"Hillard started this shit with promoting Luberman from a (retired) 3 year PO to a (civilian) Director, and he promoted Stanley to Commander with 9 years on the job. Kline followed this new trend of bullshit...and the department rapidly fell apart from there.
And Meritorious promotions just began under Hillard's regime, and again Kline followed suit with promoting via political favors and their personal kiss ass buddies.
So yes, this department took its major turn for the worst thanks to Hillard and Kline.
1/15/2015 12:03:00 AM"
That pretty much sums it all up. Where's all the suckholes to tell us how great these Jagoffs where. C'mon aholes hurry up and defend them
with your very soul.
50 off the old Sgts list next Friday!!!
"These shenanigans pale in comparison to the scams involving sworn members retiring to collect their substantial pensions without actually retiring. They come to work the next day and perform the same duties, but now they are civilian members of the department, collecting a pension check AND a paycheck. Deputy Chief Shear (retired patrolman), Assistant Director Hickey (retired lieutenant), Chief of Staff Roussell (retired commander), and Director O'Neill (retired commander) are just a few of the people currently benefiting from this "loophole" which allows them to "double-up" on their salaries. Consider me a "whistle-blower," as I have already given a deposition.
1/14/2015 06:28:00 PM"
You left out Tommy the Thumb Byrne Retired Depty Chief. Streets & San to bury the bodies during the Hired Truck scandal, Aviation, Forestry & now he's with the Park District
PO' s aren't doing desk sgt duties where I work they just do reports. The desk sgts. I mean the DSS do all the arrests all inventories, all bonds and cut the desk crew early......
If this were true, and I was one of the JR Sgt's who suddenly became eligible to take the test, I'm also feeling disadvantaged. You see, all the other Sgt's will have had months to prepare, and creates an unfair advantage.
Sue Sue Sue
Its all mental masturbation.... dont let them get to you. Its not worth it.
Ot... but same idea about clout.
Can someone please tell me why in 012 we have a person who is midnights management but will never see midnights detailed to days in commanders office. Worst part is this same person bid with midnights for furlos to get a great furlo with 9 years on the job knowing they were going to days. The order reads all administration people bid with days this person knew the best furlo they get is a full 1. Because guys with 21 years are getting 4 and 5s at the best. Tell me why this is allowed. Tell me why that in 12 we have 4 time keepers, a district secretary who has her own assisant. Why caps has over 10 people assigned, why the quiet room was turned into an office to hide more and more people. Why the burglary / robbery team has 12 people that only work days weekends off. Why a person on days bidded to the desk never works the desk taking a spot in the commanders office. 25 years on job and I never seen things so blatant in my whole career. And they want to know why activity low. Just watch day to day
Cross guard supervisor making there own hours. Just insane.
1/14/2015 01:35:00 PM
Jealous, aren't we? Maybe if you did just a little bit of work the Commander you put you on a "special team" as well. Go back to your mommy's basement, loser.
Response to this nonsense. First off go and look at those teams. How many arrests do those teams have. My point exactly. This issue is something that needs to be addressed. When you guys are stealing from the city, are anyone one of you working a full tour? Doubtful at best. I watch each of you come in at whatever time you want. And you are leaving way before i do. So lets do the math, i come in first, and i leave last. Hmmm. I know im working my full tour, so that leads me to believe as a famous sgt once said " its theft from the city". So i guess you guys are thieves. And how many people are needed in the commanders office again last time i checked it was only supposed to be 3. How many are hidden away cause they are scared of the street. And here is a bigger question, why is it everyone in the commanders office female. Not one male. Hmmm wonder what the means, is this a prejudice against guys. I mean there are guys that could do that work. So about working hard to get on the special team. Big Joke in itself. Just look at the 80 person tact team. So next time junior who believes they are the chosen ones better just pay better attention at who is watching what you guys are doing. Be a shame if it all ends, Guess i just go back to hoping to get a special team. Maybe if i work really really hard the commander will put in a special spot, maybe in the quiet room. Oh wait, thats filled with 2 more useless females doing nothing. Or maybe i can be the district secretaries 3 assistant. Wait cant do that either, have to much time on the job. I need under 10 years. Just goes to show you exactly what is wrong with this department. People who feel they are chosen. And in closing, i hope the guys on midnights call Greg Bella and tell him exactly what is going on here. Just to watch princess go to midnights would be worth this post.
I was told by a supervisor in the know dthat this is the same exact reason why the department has only made 1 class(5 officers of 50 on the list) off the current Canine list even though they are terribly short handed. Canine(city dog) has been asking for several classes of 8 and it gets approved until it reaches the bosses desk and he refuses to sign off on it because certain officers that HE wants are not eligible to get promoted. Take notice after this next Canine test how fast he signs off on new classes. I guess where's there smoke there's fire, pathetic. You men and women on the current list may want to look into this.
This shit happens all to often. Quite awhile ago I applied for Canine Handler and passed every aspect.
I found out , from two very legitimate sources, that I was originally classified as highly qualified and should've been given a shot at a dog.
Lo and behold when my name crossed an exempt members desk he decided that he'd knock me down to simply qualified and that's the death knoll for getting a dog. That's an absolute true story.
That said exempt member had numerous run ins with CPD and other agencies over his excessive drinking and driving but miraculously nothing ever came of any of it.
Politics as usual.
BTW that exempt's initials were F.R.
STFU about LT MM. Have you no respect? The man is sick. He's dond more for us then anyone else. Serves you right if you get a real dick head LT and you will wish he was back.
Hey Numb Nuts, it's Cline not Kline, and Cronin was a Commander first then promoted to Deputy Chief. Gets some time on the job before you make a post.
That pretty much sums it all up. Where's all the suckholes to tell us how great these Jagoffs where. C'mon aholes hurry up and defend them
with your very soul.
1/15/2015 10:10:00 AM
I know a couple of the guys mentioned and like them or not they worked long and hard and deserved everything they got. They never stopped working hard after they made it too.
Not every boss is a jagoff, son. I did notice a lot of jealousy and sour grapes here though. Life aint fair. Some get it some don't. Give up the complaining It makes you bad company.
I apologize to those screaming at me for being old. Yes, I now recall Kline redesigned OCD with a DC of NAGIS, and Cronin was first cmdr of the GIS part before bumping up to DC. Reason I forgot was no real gang specialist ever referred to GIS as a real gang unit.
And for those who still cannot catch on, we misspell certain names on purpose. I guess if you had some time on the job you would know why.
How about "retired" Sgt. Bob Roman? Retires from the sworn ranks as a sergeant in the First Deputy's Office and comes right back as a civilian commander in the same office. Got his sworn pension and a substantial raise in salary in the process, all for performing the same duties. And who made it happen? Does the name Marv Shear ring a bell?
And these reasons are why you should try your damndest to minimize your exposure to these green, unproven untested supervisors.
Of course, they're dangerous in that they know you want very little to do with them but they seem to seek you out when you're trying to avoid them the most.
Anonymous said...
recently promoted sergeant williams from the academy will be the next commander of 11. Just a wild guess
1/14/2015 08:33:00 PM
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Cause he is just another "know it all"
And a liar to boot!
I made sarge in the last clas , now if I studies hard will have opportunity to becomes a lieutenant in a few more year. You all sound afraids of some competition from us new sargents .
to poster at 1/14/2015 08:09:00 PM.
Have you seen her? There is no way she has enough time on the job to retire. She looks like she's 30.....
"I know a couple of the guys mentioned and like them or not they worked long and hard and deserved everything they got. They never stopped working hard after they made it too.
Not every boss is a jagoff, son. I did notice a lot of jealousy and sour grapes here though. Life aint fair. Some get it some don't. Give up the complaining It makes you bad company.
1/15/2015 09:35:00 PM"
Well Gramps apparently you were one the chosen ones.I stand by comments and the length you go to defend them is repugnant.
It's astonishing that something can become so ingrained in your character that you continue the knobgobbling even after leaving the job.
Can't get more pathetic than that.
The new Director is old enough. Very good looking, but also educated from a Big 10 school and worthy of the position. Good for her.
At least she's qualified..Can't talk about the others...
What does exempt mean?
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