Vehicle Count
Thanks to a reader, we can say that the FOP's negotiated 400 vehicles has come to pass:
- 1AT - All Terrain Vehicle - 1 purchased
- 1AU - Automobile - 14 purchased
- 1MC - Motorcycle - 14 purchased
- 2PU - Pick-Up Truck - 3 purchased
- 2SP - Sport Utility Vehicle - 367 purchased
- 2VA - Van, Cargo - 32 purchased
- 3PT - Prisoner Transport Vehicle - 3 purchased
- 3SQ - Squadrol, Police - 5 purchased
Total: 439 vehicles
The number/letter combo seems to be a budget code. We have no idea what the 1AU is - Tactical cars? 14 seems a bit low. Exempt vehicles? More likely. And 32 cargo vans? Why?
In any event, those are the numbers the city will toss out if anyone questions the language included in the contract.
The number/letter combo seems to be a budget code. We have no idea what the 1AU is - Tactical cars? 14 seems a bit low. Exempt vehicles? More likely. And 32 cargo vans? Why?
In any event, those are the numbers the city will toss out if anyone questions the language included in the contract.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
87 Comments:
Cargo vans are the newer ford econline wagons. The 5 squadrols purchased are the bigger wagons of old. I'm pretty sure the 14 automobiles are new Chevy impalas the city is testing for sgts.
Those vans, you sure they're not the ford transit to be used by evidence?
16 cars per district? Yep, that'll do it. That number will really only be around 8 or 9 for patrol. Some cars for units, others for sgts cars and some for tac. Always happens too that at least one per district gets wrecked in the first two weeks on midnights.... It's always on midnights because on midnights they drive 95mph to calls of domestics or prostitution calls and other nonsense. I did it myself when I was young so can't throw stones. Are they buying just 400 or every year buying 400?
14 motorcycles? For real? Sigh.... All the stuff we don't have and we are wasting that money on 14 motorcycles. Mismanagement at its best
Getting ready for 10 hour days.. You can tell just by how many transport vans the bought.. Those are the new wagons... Only 22 districts and they bought 32 along with 5 regular wagons. Enough for one added wagon per district and enough for replacements and pools of older wagons
The cargo vans could be for the PPOs on foot patrol in the impact zones.
32 cargo vans...load up the coppers and drop them off for foot patrol, just like NYC.
CPD is being blessed with a plethora of vehicles.
No MRAPs?
The 1au codes are for the new Taurus'. The are supposed to be for xo's and field Lt's in most districts.
The 1Au code is for marked Ford Taurus' vehicles purchased.
The cargo vans are for the foot ppo's. SWAT also received some as did Intel, b ut majority went to operation impact.
Tact cars are included in the SUV totals.
Congratulations. Are they all equipped with radios and computers? Cage and racks? Or will they sit in a lot waiting to be customized?
Just as long as I can still put my feet up in my cruiser and read my paper and eat donuts during my shift I'll be fine.. Thanks
Strictly speculation...
14 "1AU" Autos and 14 "1MC" - Motorcycles to be used for dignitary escorts. The current fleet of escort vehicles is aging and we can't have O'Bummer & Co. escorted by anything less than the best.
32 "2VA" Cargo Vans - The rumor is 30 or so Evidence Technicians immediately after the test is administered and graded. Since the ETs routinely do out-of-grade work as Crime Lab people, perhaps this is a way of having all the equipment and supplies necessary and on hand at any given scene.
1 "1AT" All Terrain Vehicle - To be assigned to Zach Emanuel so he can meet his Horticulturalist Liaisons in a plethora of environments while maintaining the capability to beat a hasty retreat if things were to again go south.
the vans are to bumper-bump the 2 wheel drive SUVs out of snow banks.
Why is it a union issue to negotiate the types and quantities of vehicles purchased?????
Isn't there a clout position or two that manages that area?
Wouldn't that be the job of an Operations Director or Fleet Management Executive? I am sure there is a whole department dedicated to that function.
If you have incompetent people in these supposed "management positions" - why are they still there collecting a check?
Cut all these $100,000-plus wonders if they are not doing the job. It is AMAZING the amount of waste in the City of Chicago budget.
2va-cargo,van are those pizza van the let's have. They are going to make 30 let's now.
The cargo vans are for NYPD-style foot patrols. Sgt drives a bunch of POs to a central location and then deploy the POs.
You cops will rue the day the FOP made the every day equipment needed to do your jobs a "benefit" to be negotiated just like health care & salary. etc. There's no way to keep the city from dangling this "benefit" before every future negotiating team. Anyone from from FOP who tells you this is a one time negotiating tactic from the city is a liar.
Wow! We got our new cars, per contract ( pathetic it was on there). So they get the cars right, but not the duty availability.
AU
Probably Tauruses for supervisors and/or Fusion Hybrids for the Detectives
439 new take home cars!
Woo Hoo!!
Why is it even in the contract?
"We have no idea what the 1AU is..."
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It is top secret code: "Auto" ssshhh, keep it to yourself!
au=alternate unit?? cargo vans seem like the cheap replacement for squadrol wagons (until the law suit)
Good numbers but 30% of those vehicles will go to other departments throughout the city. You will see streets and San and cdot bosses driving unmarked exploders soon enough.
Sometimes I wonder what Rahman is thinking...
Cargo vans are the new wagons. You know, the ones that don't work well.
There is no sense learning from experience.
nice job Deano!!!
most of these vehicles with the codes given will be going to fleet management
My guess is the vans are for the recruits in foot patrol. And cars are for detectives. Assuming all those cars go to fop members.
Good luck 025!
Any smart cars? I adore mine.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
See they get what we want! Like 10 hours city wide next
So Dean gets it in the contract to 400 vehicles.....vehicles that had tobe put out to bid and ordered anywhere from 6-12 months ago .
The city really pulled a fast one.
Rahm, the pothead's father, must be laughing his ass off.
Cargo vans will probably be outfitted for prisoner transports in the districts to replace the wagons.
There are about 40 already CPD detailed patrol ford escapes sitting in a lot in Bensenville all ready to go
Just say: "Thank you!" ,
Love Rahm
Did you count Cooter's new Segway?
It's just so fucking unbelievable that police vehicles that are neccessary to run a department were included in a labor contract. Did the union for Streets and San demand garbage trucks. What the fuck?!
And yes, those vehicles will be detailed at 51st st., very slowly, one by one, by Streets and San, NOT EMMD.
The city already had these cars, dipshits. It makes the city look good, while we still look like a bunch of clowns. This was a calculated move by the Mayer and dean.
Cargo vans are for the foot patrol guys.
Chevy Impalas the state has some,they are rear wheel drive, noway as good as AWD all wheel drive, lots of room in them though,fast and quiet but no good in winter! Cargo vans will be used to transport more coppers into the non-taxpaying ghettos to try and control the animals that don't want police services! Why not just use CTA buses to go to the calls? Wait until fleet destroys these vehicles when goober and gomer wire up these vehicles!
Cars you goofs voted for, which had already been ordered. Many have been parked on the asphalt at MMD-1 for weeks and weeks now. Feel stupid yet? Oh wait, you voted for Retro pay too, right?
Cargo vans needed to transport 35th street staff to and from Starbucks @ 35th & State, Monday-Friday.
Omg fop negotiated for cars , thank the negotiators or we would all be taking CTA or uber drivers to our assignments
In the 70's I think cpa (b4) Union tried to negotiate a flashlight for every car
Fn joke
Who is flop endorsing for mayor?
32 cargo vans...load up the coppers and drop them off for foot patrol, just like NYC.
1/10/2015 12:32:00 AM
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Cargo vans are used for wagons.. They didn't order passenger vans....
The new Chevrolet Impala is Front Wheel Drive.
I hope FOP ensures that all squads are not to be used for supervisors, but we really know that's who FOP negotiated for. Thanks Ray you dirty bastard.
Who painted the current shit boxes in patrol? Seems like every car has peeling white paint on hood etc.....Daley and Vaneko auto?
Why would Intel get cargo vans? Some people are just so stupid.
Who the hell cares about cars, are you guys idiots? We are gonna loose a watch to 10 hour days, we keep loosing benefits, no one is getting hired but you guys are worried about cars and PDTs?
Whats the matter with you guys? So I gotta drive around in a junk box for 8 hours, Ive seen half of the cops cars they aint much better. But no one is worried about our pensions, heath benefits, what the Phuck?
Where are all the Cushman's?
@ 1/10/2015 12:05:00 PM
ISP has Caprices...
RWD, 6.0 liter (366 c.i.) and @ 360 h.p.
No. Fucking. Way.
Will CPD EVER see cars like that.
Young'uns and hidey-hole bosses will kill themselves
in those things... It's a different skill set in rear drive sedans with lots of power and torque although tire, brake and stability technology will save some asses...
>Wheel cranked all the way to the stop, sideways + outside tire on fire from the spin and it's un-weighted... Badly<
(The new Impalas are still front wheel drive but are pretty damn ballsy with the 3.6L v6.)
Just like back in '94 when Chevy re-did the 9c1 Caprice with a Corvette engine with iron heads and improved cooling.
5.7 liter (350 c.i.) and @ 260 h.p.
versus 190 h.p. for the previous generation Police engine.
Funny but CTA Special had those cars.
Chasing down surveillance cards in a 4400 pound 150 mph capable rocket with a steering wheel and 4 doors?
Kinda fun...
Two openings for the entire city only in 019!? Ridiculous
Does the new bodyguard detail eat and watch the entire Bears and Hawks games at Franco's on 31st Street? Do they get free upgrades to first class when they fly out of O'Hare on vacation? And free indoor parking at the airports?
---Mike the city worker
Anonymous said...
Just as long as I can still put my feet up in my cruiser and read my paper and eat donuts during my shift I'll be fine.. Thanks
1/10/2015 01:29:00 AM
Obviously this was posted by a Non-CPD troll. We don't have "cruisers" in Chicago, ASSSSSSSHAAAAAAAT!"
Really?!?!...Can someone please explain to me why the FOP felt the need to get involved with the how the shitty of shitcago dealt with the issue of supplying vehicles to THEIR employees...WTF...if there is no car...then no work can be done...if there is an unsafe car, down it...then no work can be done...I believe there are more pressing issues than the FOP wasting dues money over cars....maybe argue over our pension and health care benefits?
"Probably Tauruses for supervisors and/or Fusion Hybrids for the Detectives
1/10/2015 06:36:00 AM"
Now that the runt idiot set a precedent, why aren't the Supervisors negotiating for their own cars?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It's just so fucking unbelievable that police vehicles that are neccessary to run a department were included in a labor contract. Did the union for Streets and San demand garbage trucks. What the fuck?!
And yes, those vehicles will be detailed at 51st st., very slowly, one by one, by Streets and San, NOT EMMD.
1/10/2015 10:59:00 AM
Will gasoline for these cars and electricity for the police stations be in the next contract?
Then Rahm can put them on our W2 and count it as compensation! We pay taxes on it and Rahm can lean on Barry for a rebate.
I wish Chicago's finest would educate themselves On why the city now had to make fleet management . corruption led to the fbi arresting several cpd cops.it was called the motor maintenance scam.robbing the dupe man in squad cars.and now you guys complain how the operation is ran.its cpds fault,at least now by what i can see city is hiring people who know what they are doing.before motor maintenance was a dumping ground for cpd family hacks that didn't know a clue about cars. ..
Anonymous said...
So Dean gets it in the contract to 400 vehicles.....vehicles that had tobe put out to bid and ordered anywhere from 6-12 months ago .
The city really pulled a fast one.
Rahm, the pothead's father, must be laughing his ass off.
1/10/2015 09:16:00 AM
Not sure why anyone would waste their time thinking about the city buying new police cars or not. It's simple, if they don't give us working vehicles or equipment we can't do our jobs and will just sit around in the station all day. This is a city issue only. We are only as good as our equipment. We supply ourselves with uniforms, vests, weapons etc. etc. The city supplies the vehicles. If not, then oh well.
KIA Sorentos for beat vehicles!
Cargo vans will be used to transport more coppers into the non-taxpaying ghettos to try and control the animals that don't want police services!
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What does the ILCS say about
transporting people in a cargo van?
I tend to see an IOD here....
The vehicle clause in the contract is made worse by the fact that deano didn't demand all the cars are used for bargining unit members. After all the bosses get new cars, the left overs go to the working men and women.
Cannot respond to HBT incidents in my personal vehicle anymore. Not taking the chance this winter to get hurt or killed and leave my family without a father. No take home car no response. The city has plenty of money for a stadium or a park. Has plenty of ass kissers like the Lt who looks out for himself. Merit Sgt, merit Lt and now merit Captain. Take your blackberry and shove it up your asses.
Dean and Ray, i'm sorry i voted for you. Greg, i thought you changed your ways after the $200k "disappeared". You sir have proved you are worse than ever.
What kind of goof makes department vehicles a negotiated item? Did the fire department negotiate for fire trucks and ambulances? These are things the city has to buy, you fools.
Just goes to show how dumb some younger, and older, cops can be when a bunch of FOP clowns asks them what should be top items. How do you add that in and look serious to the city across the table?
And retro? Retro is a sign that the city fucked you out of money that they, not you, earned interest on while they held it and used it for what they needed while you and your families went without. But you morons just wanted that lump some of chump change. Stupid. But then again this is a group that will work VRI and not realize the city is fucking them with that little trick too.
If what happened in Paris happened in Chicago hundreds of citizens and police officers will die. Swat has no take home cars. We have been told to STFU and drive our personal cars to HBT jobs.
Zero support from the Exempts. The city steals the Homeland Security money and pays the VRI overtime instead of equipping the SWAT team. Are there no investigative reporters to investigate? Look at how many armored vehicles, LA, or New York has. They are proud to have a SWAT team. Our city considers us a necessary evil. Compare our equipment and response time to other major cities. We are a joke.
Our leadership cares only about making rank. Terrible, disgusting cowards. Lt soon to be Captain never made any waves. All he was good for was destroying morale.
Georgas and Guiliford don't have a clue but they actually think they know what is best for a SWAT team. They bow down to any political agenda that the liberal news accuses. They cry like little school girls. "No armored vehicles on warrants. We don't want the ghetto and media to think we are militarizing CPD."
Bow down you cowards. Bow down like the dogs you are. Get on those knees so you can make higher rank. Wipe your mouths with your inflated pay checks and pretend you are a police officer.
RWD Caprices 360hp
No way CPD will ever see cars like that
FYI, Explorer and Taurus police interceptor package, 365hp
look it up
Motorcycles? Perhaps tact is going to try and infiltrate biker gangs?
the impalas and caprices SUCK!
Just remember... When seconds count. SWAT is only a few hours away.
The FOP didn't negotiate new vehicles. Those had been ordered a year ago.
Stated this when the contract went out for vote
The city had these cars already. They were sitting in a lot waiting to be equipped. 400 cars don't just appear in a couple months. They were ordered months earlier because the city has to replace vehicles routinely and dangled as a carrot when the city realized the FOP wanted to use this as a bargaining chip
"You want cars? I don't know it will be a tough sell with the mayor, but ok". Morons
Anonymous said...
RWD Caprices 360hp
No way CPD will ever see cars like that
FYI, Explorer and Taurus police interceptor package, 365hp
look it up
1/11/2015 07:56:00 AM
Sorry this is cpd we get 240HP version,like in the 90's when we had the caprice impalas they had the LT1 Corvette engine standard for police but CPD had the 4.3 liter small V-8 which was cheaper but constantly broke down,as it was not a "performance" engine!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
RWD Caprices 360hp
No way CPD will ever see cars like that
FYI, Explorer and Taurus police interceptor package, 365hp
look it up
1/11/2015 07:56:00 AM
Yes on the Explorer and Taurus specs but again very doubtful CPD will spring for any "pursuit rated" vehicles.
Check the VIN codes...
SWAT crybabies. Listen up......If the city expects you to answer your phone off duty and doesn't give you a take home car or extra pay then why would you stay there?
You are the moron who allows them to use you. Are you that insecure that you need a green uniform to feel special?
Why would any reasonable person drive in their own personal vehicle to an HBT job? Do the bosses on SWAT have take home cars? Let them respond.
Stop whining, band together and don't show up.
The city is liable if a terrorist attack happens and you have to respond from home.
Lol. when I see you guys driving around the ghetto or on safe passage. I can see the terrorist coming to Englewood or Roseland. Just because your bosses are idiots doesnt mean you have to be.
Unless your getting paid don't answer your phone. They can't do anything to you. General Order prohibits you from answering or checking your phone. File a grievance or lawsuit if they try to fuck you.
What fucking idiot wrote that GO? Did the chain of command ever stop to think about the consequences of their actions? Chicago is at risk of small scale attacks. This city never learned anything after 911.
Just remember... When seconds count. SWAT is only a few hours away.
1/11/2015 11:29:00 AM
SWAT we don't need you. My partner and I have done multiple combat tours unlike you clout heavy SWAT babies. My partner and I have our own rifles, our vests and helmets from Iraq. Plenty of ammo and we are better trained then most of you. If a Paris attack happens, we don't need you.
By the time you guys show up its over. Now go to Starbucks and get me a cafe Latte. Let the big boys handle the bad guys.
Our leadership cares only about making rank. Terrible, disgusting cowards. Lt soon to be Captain never made any waves. All he was good for was destroying morale.
Georgas and Guiliford don't have a clue but they actually think they know what is best for a SWAT team. They bow down to any political agenda that the liberal news accuses. They cry like little school girls. "No armored vehicles on warrants. We don't want the
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Very accurate. That is why the SWAT team filed a law suit against the city. FOP was pissed at SWAT. Fuck you Lt. Fuck you Exempts and McBalls. Fuck you FOP. And finally Fuck you Mr Midget Mayor.
Anonymous said...
Cannot respond to HBT incidents in my personal vehicle anymore. Not taking the chance this winter to get hurt or killed and leave my family without a father. No take home car no response. The city has plenty of money for a stadium or a park. Has plenty of ass kissers like the Lt who looks out for himself. Merit Sgt, merit Lt and now merit Captain. Take your blackberry and shove it up your asses.
1/11/2015 02:45:00 AM
If you go back to the district, you never have to worry about responding to jobs in you personal car.
Anonymous said...
I wish Chicago's finest would educate themselves On why the city now had to make fleet management . corruption led to the fbi arresting several cpd cops.it was called the motor maintenance scam.robbing the dupe man in squad cars.and now you guys complain how the operation is ran.its cpds fault,at least now by what i can see city is hiring people who know what they are doing.before motor maintenance was a dumping ground for cpd family hacks that didn't know a clue about cars. ..
1/10/2015 07:39:00 PM
Speaking of getting educated; A graduate of CPS?
Cannot respond to HBT incidents in my personal vehicle anymore. Not taking the chance this winter to get hurt or killed and leave my family without a father. No take home car no response. The city has plenty of money for a stadium or a park. Has plenty of ass kissers like the Lt who looks out for himself. Merit Sgt, merit Lt and now merit Captain. Take your blackberry and shove it up your asses.
1/11/2015 02:45:00 AM
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Ok, no problem. I will take your spot with a smile and sigh of relief and you can take my beat car and have my job. Hahah, you guys in swat and units are so jaded and forgetful of real life in this department. Be thankful for the spot you have in your unit and don't bother us with your unit drama and problems that are one tenth the worry we have on the watch. If you forgot how good any of you really have it come back to a watch and beat car and you will quickly remember how much it sucks. And if the last time you worked a beat car or on a watch was in the Phil cline era then things have really really changed. A district that has been ravaged and changed by j fed and McCarthy is nowhere close to the days of hillard and cline. Be happy u are not in a district and stop your crying about problems and issues that are not issues at all in the grand scheme of things.. That goes for all units. A unit no matter what unit is better than any district watch in this city hands down... Stop showing how spoiled you all are.
SWAT has been useless since its inception. Has the SWAT team ever made an arrest ? SWAT was started after a TV show of the same name, was seen by a goofy deputy named Walter Vallee. Walter, who was about 5' 7"
liked the show and thought that the CPD should copy this TV show, and start a SWAT team. And that is how Chicago got a SWAT team.
I hope we get Fiats or Smart cars soon.
Marianovich, Georgas, and Guliford please explain to the citizens of Chicago and the jury why SWAT was given take home vehicles and after one month 80 percent of them were taken away and sat at Area 1 over three months. Could it be you were trying to send a message to Hamilton and Masters?
Explain this to the families of citizens and police officers killed about your negligence. Lake Shore Drive job showed how long it took SWAT to respond. That was over a year ago. You still have done zero for us. Cannot wait for you to show the courts what have you done to remedy the response of SWAT since 2006.
All three of you are merit suck holes. Please enlighten us on what you have done to build a SWAT team? Cannot wait to see all three of you in court testifying in the lawsuit. Everything will be on the record. Now go get your shine box. McCarthy needs all three of you on your knees.
Marianovich, Georgas, and Guliford please explain to the citizens of Chicago and the jury why SWAT was given take home vehicles and after one month 80 percent of them were taken away and sat at Area 1 over three months. Could it be you were trying to send a message to Hamilton and Masters?
Explain this to the families of citizens and police officers killed about your negligence. Lake Shore Drive job showed how long it took SWAT to respond. That was over a year ago. You still have done zero for us. Cannot wait for you to show the courts what have you done to remedy the response of SWAT since 2006.
All three of you are merit suck holes. Please enlighten us on what you have done to build a SWAT team? Cannot wait to see all three of you in court testifying in the lawsuit. Everything will be on the record. Now go get your shine box. McCarthy needs all three of you on your knees.
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Is this for real? Sounds like a good story for the media. Merit promotions are destroying CPD.
Vocabulary to be on SWAT:
Yes sir:
No Sir:
May daddy is:
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