Hammer Time Coming
Anyone notice the CO Book with the 21 page order stapled into it with the Uniform Standards in all the Districts?
Anyone else notice that they named a few new Inspectors?
Guess what's coming?
Don't say you weren't warned. Numerous 35th Street types have whispered to the blog.
Maybe they'll ensure it's enforced evenly across the board - no exceptions for front offices, because we're sure everyone has a few stories.
Anyone else notice that they named a few new Inspectors?
Guess what's coming?
Don't say you weren't warned. Numerous 35th Street types have whispered to the blog.
Maybe they'll ensure it's enforced evenly across the board - no exceptions for front offices, because we're sure everyone has a few stories.
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
199 Comments:
What is enforced? Dreadlocks that are deemed "religious"?
I keep hearing rumblings about the difference between civilian dress and cover dress. If they ever enforce that order, goodbye blue jeans. BTW,,I'm not hating,I have been civilian dress for the last 12.
The beatings will continue until morale improves. That is all.
So they let everyone do what they want and wear what they want for years. Now they want to enforce what should been enforced all along. The hell with the lot of them.
Vote the Mayor and Superintendent OUT!!!!
Fire your Boss!!
:)
I didn't have time to pursue that - yet - as I've been too busy reading the following AMC Messages. Seems certain districts are practically begging people to work on their tactical teams:
Reference #216899 - 004 district
Reference #216894 - 019 district
Reference #216856 - 015 district
Reference #216865 - 017 district
Reference #216854 - 003 district
Reference #216848 - 002 district
Things that make ya go "hhhmmmmm".
Friendly birdies at Fort Fellatio are anticipating these (and additional) units having to resort to reverse seniority to fill some of these spots. I guess the (often ignored) minimum-time-on-the-job-to-work-tact requirement will be waived? What's up wit dat?? Are the hairgels and superheroes finally figuring out that one RDO a week and every summer weekend cancelled sucks the big, fat one? I guess that mandatory OT ain't all that glamorous when the Departments "elite" are sent out on Contact Card and ANOV blitzes, huh?
And the best part? Applicants have to be willing to purchase BDUs as a condition to make the cut for one of the aforementioned illustrious teams. Uhhhhh, thanks but no thanks.
Yeah, keep believing the drivel about the ranks not being severely understaffed. Suckers.
Actually the memo has been out a month. They just posted it on the admin again. Inspectors have been around last month or so. Nothing new. Just wear proper uniform. Not a hard concept. But of course it is.
It's about time!!
Im wearing a leather jockstrap under my pants to tease those inspectors,Can you smell the leather.
Captain Piggy in 005 is fucking with the working police...he wants to write people with "illegal beards" and wants our shoes shined even though its cold, wet, and snowy out...and you wonder why activity is down? Piggy and the 10 hour day is making 005 a very shitty place to work, Things were looking up when Commander Watson came here, but now we are back in the shitter. It's a shame too because we have a lot of good Sgt's and P.O.'s
So they really want to fuck with coppers when morale is barely treading water, huh? Don't get me wrong....the 3" fingernails painted hot pink wiff CZs glued on are unacceptable. Ditto the mangy assed foot long dreadlocks on some of the brothers. But dinging guys for minor uniform infractions like salty/unpolished boots after the snow we just and still have or a missing name tag or no mace holder (cuz the one the city issued was shit that broke in 2 days, literally) is the surest way to cause dissension amongst the ranks. Then add in the fact that white shirts who have the same or worse infractions won't have a single word said to them. Anyone written up for bullshit better respond accordingly. The window of opportunity to fire back a response for being fucked with for pretty much no reason closes fast. Put up or shut up ladies and gents. Put that money where your mouth is.
Can I still wear my ball cap backwards? Jockstrap on the outside of pants too?
Good! If you're in uniform, shave your beard, cut your dreadlocks, and take off the NY Yankees stocking cap. "We work in the ghetto, no one gives a fuck..." Well, we don't look professional to impress the mopes in the hood. Do it for yourself. We are better than them. Look the part.
Yea that's gonna be good for morale that's already in the toilet.
Did anyone see that New York just set a record of not having a murder for 10 days straight? That would never happen here.
Supervisors are afraid of the dread locks issues so they don't enforce all but the most egregious issues. Get rid of the ear rings and 3 inch nails too.
It's about time.
Wear the proper uniform, it's not that difficult. I'm sick and tired of seeing dopes with non uniform baseball caps on and wearing them backwards. Like their too cool to were what everybody else does. Enough with the hoodies and stop trying so hard to look like the stereo typical tac hard on your in patrol. No i'm not a hater and don't talk shit I'm just stating the obvious.
About time. Turn your hats back around.
Can't touch this
Eewwwwww Im scared.
In the past, inspectors stayed out of fast districts (mostly)...let's see if they stick to that.
Maybe it's a good thing , lots of cops looking like slobs out there.
It's about time we got back to uniformity! The absolute worse thing ever were those stupid shorts!! The baseball caps and cargo pants in the district are fine, but if you're on a detail, the regulation feild uniform, including that awful hat, is a must!
Get ready to be inspected at roll call.
Get ready to have inspector show up on your job assignments. Clean that uniform shine your boots and show up at your jobs........
Hey boys and girls wake up this is because someone is running for office and the police have not backed him.
So we must be re-trained that this is a semi-military organization.
Screw them! I may look good, but I do nothing! No proactive police shit! I just ride around in a billboard on city gas doing nothing!
Bump cards and ponytails.
keep bringing in activity officers,don't forget you will never get weekends off or a merit pick..
Great don't endorse rahm he's not funding pension vengeful!
Speaking of things in the CO book, how about the new order forbidding shooting into a moving vehicle? If the car is coming at you, and you can't get out of the way, isn't that being in fear for your life? FOP, are you going to address this? That 3000lb chunk of metal is being used as a deadly weapon as far as I'm concerned.
Bring back big bird. Can I get a time check? Most of the new selfie police have no idea what either of those are.
Will male officers with long braided hair have to cut off their hair? My guess NO so don't tell me about strict uniform rules or is it different rules for certain groups?
Start at the Academy!!!!
fuck gary, fuck downtown, these bitches dont have nothing else to worry about than a few infractions and whiskers out of place?? the dept has bigger issues and problems than some petie ass shit,,,,so here come the brass bitches to make it all legit and real,,,,,fuck them KMA!!
hammer deez nutsss
FoP 1st VP The Ranger Ray says that the city should inspect for the required safety equipment by State Law in squad cars No fire extinguishers etc
*****WAIT the would be a real union NOT FLOP
Federal judge slaps state's attorney's office with rare sanction (Type that in and Google it)... Hammer Time!
When will they start monitoring GPS and ensuring that every police officer swipes in and out . Quit worrying about uniform standards , what about all the hidden sworn officers assigned to office duty while one man cars patrol the streets of Chicago .
Vote Rhama
per FLOP and SUPT Scotch breath
A malcontent I knew always had his appearance and uniform up to standards. I asked him why? He said if he had a beef with supervisors, it wouldn't involve small trivial issues. I personally believed a unit that could pass inspection couldnt do the real work. The workers deserved some slack. The things they carried.
Inspectors should enforce rules , shaggy beards , goatee
Beards ,pony tails , worn out uniforms . Omg rahm could get raise back if city would suspend the officers and supervisors. That fail to enforce rules .
Our uniform standards have become so bad. There is no pride in the uniform. I think this is a good thing.
To JRW hands up don't cheat !
I guarantee they won't fuck with people with dreads.
Hopefully the hairgel guys can finally learn on how to display a beat tag?
The way some of these PO's look lately is rather embarrassing. No blue shirts, silly looking boots/shoes, vests over CPD jackets(dumb look), turtlenecks that aren't CPD, men with earings(extra silly looking), strange facial hair other than beards, hoodies(dumb), skull caps that aren't CPD, and my favorite dumb look..wearing CPD ball caps backwards. It's very simple...Just wear the proper uniform, that's it. It's easy. Try to look somewhat professional.
"Hammer Time?!" Did I miss something? When did Joe Nemcovic become an inspector?
What a great motivator she is. I'm sure the guys will be very eagar to make her proud. This is a person that just doesn't get it. But that's nothing new on the CPD. Wouldn't she be better suited to run ERPS or maybe call back? Sad
I have an idea... how about most of you over ego'd power maniacs (Meeler) and you super educated bosses (Cesario) learn how to stop bruising moral. 90% of the bosses are not qualified to be in there position. Hammering people with BS write ups (Mulinex) is in no way a positive way to get people to perform and produce. Happy subordinates produce. Constantly nagging and acting like a brute results in low EVERYTHING. It has to start from the top down. But who am I kidding. You would need a king size hammer to crack some of these egos.
I guess I will have to go to 111th St. to do more than visit the credit union and Hinky Dinks.
OT: Regarding merit promotions.
So sgt's got merit promoted supposedly because of their great job as PO's. They we're put in b/c the "bosses" saw something special in them. Such spectacular work ethic and leadership skills that the dept just had to bypass hundreds of people that scored well on the test to promote these people instead.
So after their merit promotion, it's truly amazing to see how many of them are now in caps offices and hidden spots. The dept just has to promote them b/c they're so special and then pay them 100k to work in the caps office. Where they can really utilize those unbelievably special leadership skills that got them the merit promotion. It's sickening.
If u get a merit promo the least u should be is out there as a sect sgt's earning that dam promo.
Fear no one but God . And to those so call inspector always remember one things it's just a title not a grammy . And please humans treat each other with respect cause karma is alive . This department has been taken to the lowest already by Devils . This is a dictatorship so sad to see . Remember early voting so cast your vote and once you do remember don't complain if you don't !!!!!
I didn't have time to pursue that - yet - as I've been too busy reading the following AMC Messages. Seems certain districts are practically begging people to work on their tactical teams:
Reference #216899 - 004 district
Reference #216894 - 019 district
Reference #216856 - 015 district
Reference #216865 - 017 district
Reference #216854 - 003 district
Reference #216848 - 002 district
Things that make ya go "hhhmmmmm".
Friendly birdies at Fort Fellatio are anticipating these (and additional) units having to resort to reverse seniority to fill some of these spots. I guess the (often ignored) minimum-time-on-the-job-to-work-tact requirement will be waived? What's up wit dat?? Are the hairgels and superheroes finally figuring out that one RDO a week and every summer weekend cancelled sucks the big, fat one? I guess that mandatory OT ain't all that glamorous when the Departments "elite" are sent out on Contact Card and ANOV blitzes, huh?
And the best part? Applicants have to be willing to purchase BDUs as a condition to make the cut for one of the aforementioned illustrious teams. Uhhhhh, thanks but no thanks.
Yeah, keep believing the drivel about the ranks not being severely understaffed. Suckers.
2/13/2015 01:16:00 AM
Tact is not a good spot anymore. They're the CD step-children of the CPD. Very few are going to kiss ass and beg writing a to-from to go to tact.
To 2/13/2015 04:17:00 AM:
Couldn't agree more. One of the most valuable pieces of advice I ever got on this job was from an angry supervisor who said, "Look like you know what you're doin, will ya?" because sometimes when you don't know what you're doing, they'll believe you if you look the part.
To piggyback 12:49a.m, 4:17am and 8:44am- Additionally others should not be permitted to wear their green Notre Dame skull or b.b caps,they should cut their long stringy hair so as not to look like a hippie from Woodstock, remove their entire arm tattoo sleeve that make them look like a Hells Angel biker or a member of the Skinheads, and while theyre at it Motor Maintenance should remove the p.a. system from the cars to prevent the blasting of certain songs in order to "cheer on their favorite college football team."
Dont tell me CPD is actually goin to expect their Officers to dress in correct matching Uniforms like professional Police Agencies, instead of a bunch of rag-tag bluejeans Hillbilly Police.
I heard a line from a movie once "is this part of the new cruelty"?
"Hey boys and girls wake up this is because someone is running for office and the police have not backed him.
So we must be re-trained that this is a semi-military organization.
2/13/2015 07:26:00 AM"
That's it in a nutshell, it will blow over in 6months and you all can go back to looking like Fred flintstone, f'ng Bums the lot of ya, lol
So when did Sgt Karen C. become director of research and development? What does that position pay? Of course she worked in crime control strategies for Garry! Garry must be leaving. Anybody who worked for him he set up in nice spots. Shouldn't that position be filled by a lieutenant or above?
Sept, 1967. Walked into roll call room in 010 at 23rd & Damen on my first day out of the academy. above the full length mirror was a sign that read "DOES YOUR APPEARANCE COMMAND RESPECT.?. That became my motto from that day forward, both on and off duty, in uniform or civilian dress. I'm now 68 and it has served me well. When you look sharp you will be treated with respect. Conversely, when you go out on the street, in any district, looking like a bum or a thug, that's just how you will be treated. My apologies if this is posted twice.
Anonymous said...
Captain Piggy in 005 is fucking with the working police...he wants to write people with "illegal beards" and wants our shoes shined even though its cold, wet, and snowy out...and you wonder why activity is down? Piggy and the 10 hour day is making 005 a very shitty place to work, Things were looking up when Commander Watson came here, but now we are back in the shitter. It's a shame too because we have a lot of good Sgt's and P.O.'s
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Shave your face indigent. I'm embarrassed to have PO's with beards, dreads, and neck tattoos. Fire them all and then the clean citizens will respect the police.
Fire Rahm and Dean Sr. PhD too.
Years ago, when ever some asked for a time check on the zone. That meant there was an inspector in the district.
OT:
Anybody paying attention to the relentless beating that Congressman Aaron Schock has been taking in the media for the last two weeks?
The Illinois Combine is destroying him because he is the only plausible threat from within the GOP to the newly minted Combine governor.
Some Republican voters are already having buyers remorse for supporting Rauner.
The rubes will have nowhere to turn in the next GOP primary and Rauner/Daley/Rahm Inc. will continue to ass fuck Illinois, esp. the employees.
This is good we have a lot of bustout looking officers looking homeless don't think they have to shave, wear whatever they want no star no nametag. Goodluck dogs
Great, can't wait to be picked on for minimum infractions while people with long bears, long hair, dreads, nail polish, excessive make up, incorrect shoes, hats etc etc continue to get ignored because the bosses don't want to offend anyone.
"Whats that on your uniform? A pledge pin?!?...and tuck in your pajamas!!!
Anonymous said...
Speaking of things in the CO book, how about the new order forbidding shooting into a moving vehicle? If the car is coming at you, and you can't get out of the way, isn't that being in fear for your life? FOP, are you going to address this? That 3000lb chunk of metal is being used as a deadly weapon as far as I'm concerned.
2/13/2015 08:33:00 AM
Why do you guys always use the same old tired narrative?
"Sworn members will not unreasonably endanger themselves or another person to conform to the restrictions of this directive." Its addressed! Reading and comprehension is a skill.
Anonymous said...
Bring back big bird. Can I get a time check? Most of the new selfie police have no idea what either of those are.
2/13/2015 08:39:00 AM
WTF? Think us young guys are stupid? I watched sesame street.
Captain Piggy in 005 is fucking with the working police...he wants to write people with "illegal beards" and wants our shoes shined even though its cold, wet, and snowy out...and you wonder why activity is down? Piggy and the 10 hour day is making 005 a very shitty place to work, Things were looking up when Commander Watson came here, but now we are back in the shitter. It's a shame too because we have a lot of good Sgt's and P.O.'
Boo hoo hoo I can't have a beard. If that prevents you from being the working police you never were to begin with. Sorry you can't have your cool goatee. If that's all you have to complain about working in 005 I guess you have it pretty good. I work there also and it's actually not bad. Show up on time in proper uniform and the Captain won't say shit to you.
I respond to many crime scenes and stupervisors do nothing , coppers with bears hats, no jackets , goatees walking through crime scenes Coppers look worse than security guards , no self respect . Dreadlocks
I see guys wearing white socks, black & white gym shoes, basketball shoes, green skull caps, orange t-shirts underneath and don't even get me started on shaving...
People with 3-4 years otj look like they've been there for 20 years, and last time they washed their vest/uniform was when they left the academy. Ohhh, you work in the ghetto? Look at the coppers in the busy suburbs like Harvey and other shit holes, they look like they're suppose to.
Shitheads look better than some of the guys working in busy districts.
This is the only pd in the nation where shit like that is allowed.
Anonymous said...
In the past, inspectors stayed out of fast districts (mostly)...let's see if they stick to that.
I saw inspector in 015 twice past two weeks.
They better be straight as arrows if they want to write me up .
Off Topic: Anyone know if ex tact elite from Ohare BS now in 22 crashed his jeep monster truck into the drive thru speaker at Taco Bell, fleeing scene and was caught by Gurnee Police with Speaker lodged into grill of his truck?
Bring back big bird. Can I get a time check? Most of the new selfie police have no idea what either of those are.
2/13/2015 08:39:00 AM
Man, I haven't thought about him in years. What a big ahole he was!!.
To:these bitches dont have nothing else to worry about than a few infractions and whiskers out of place??
Maybe if the department had worried about the "trivial things" there wouldn't be so many serious things wrong
"Does your appearance command respect" ?
Heard from 35th, that inspectors are going to be looking for VRI, coppers, looking in vehicles for unapproved items, like cd players etc.. expect them at roll calls also just an fyi!
Was just thinking to myself:
Know what would get a handle on all these shootings in the city?
More Inspectors.
And why not a few more Captains, while they're at it?
Yeah, that's exactly what we need.
I came on the job in 1973 and back then we had stand up inspection at roll call every day and revolver inspection every Wednesday. It was a very rare occasion not to fall in at roll call and have inspection. I retired in 2010 and when I retired it was a rare occasion that we were inspected at roll call. The dept. slowly let the appearance of this department go to hell. I would be totally embarrassed to show up to work looking like some of my fellow officers did. Give some one an inch and they take a yard. Have some self respect for yourself and show up looking decent. DOES YOUR APPEARANCE COMMAND RESPECT?
Good! The looks of the current officers have become absolutely pathetic. An absolute embarrassment, compared to any other department or agency in this state or across the country!
Which knit hat is the real knit hat? I see about a dozen different types. Just bring back the Rocky Squirrel hat. Believe it or not, it still looks more professional.
should have fun and 19 I don't think anyone has a beat tag there
beware of the captains
will try to justify that big paycheck and take home car
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hopefully the hairgel guys can finally learn on how to display a beat tag?
2/13/2015 10:16:00 AM
Tell me about it. Lots of guys and gals riding around outside their district thinking they're smart flying around with the Devil's horns up on top ( empty beat tag holder). They love to go to Barraccos in 022 and take the tags off so they think they're being stealth..
You want me to shave but you don't want to get rid of the bedbugs infesting 35th and Michigan
"revolver inspection" every Wednesday.....what a hoot!.....now, weapons inspection once a week?...
questions:
a) a line of officers draw their weapons, and show them..
why would a department allow a room full of armed officers draw their loaded weapons and hold them out?
b) do the officers' supervisors have the expertise and training to examine the weapons and ammunition they are examining?
c) the CPD used to have a rule at their shooting ranges that mandated that no weapon be removed from the holster unless and until the officer was "on the line" (i.e., in the shooting booth)....now, it's permissible for a room full of officers (5 officers, 30 officers, etc.), to stand next to each other, and draw their loaded weapons all at the same time?.......
d) what happens if there is a tragic weapons discharge, resulting in injury or death, during one of these "weapons inspections"? (research training injuries/deaths during weapons training)...who is responsible, what boss is placing his or her name on the weapons inspection order, who authorizes weapons inspections outside of a CPD range,.......?
My sister and brother-in-law were both teachers and hence, were world travelers during the summer months. They decided that they would buy me hats from the various cultures that they visited world wide. Some were quite bizzare.
No one ih the Taylor Jets back in the eighties ever questioned what I was wearing on my head when I would respond to their calls for serviceon the 10th, 12th, 14th etc. floors.
I wouldn't wear them at rolecall but the supervisors on the street would and they would just shake their heads with amusement. What was the worst that could happen? Put me on midnights in the Deuce? I was already there.
And I actually believe that my style choice of a hat would sometimes defuse situations when I walked in while wearing one.
Ahh, memories of silliness on the job.
Speaking of Baracco's . . . please put your turn signal on when you are pulling to the curb to park by the bank.
Can someone please inform Mayor Emanuel what Inspector Big Bird is currently recieving for his pension, bet he will gut our recently blown up useless inspection unit.Can someone please post his pension.
Anonymous said...
I came on the job in 1973 and back then we had stand up inspection at roll call every day and revolver inspection every Wednesday. It was a very rare occasion not to fall in at roll call and have inspection. I retired in 2010 and when I retired it was a rare occasion that we were inspected at roll call. The dept. slowly let the appearance of this department go to hell. I would be totally embarrassed to show up to work looking like some of my fellow officers did. Give some one an inch and they take a yard. Have some self respect for yourself and show up looking decent. DOES YOUR APPEARANCE COMMAND RESPECT?
2/13/2015 03:02:00 PM
Came on in 85, we had same thing, stand up everyday and gun inspection every Wednesday,go to range,at academy buy my own ammo and practice. Talked to a range guy there he has stories of guns misfiring due to excessive dirt, ammo green, what ever happened to inspections? I agree also that if you were caught, no reprimand but we had real bosses that called you on things,next day or before you hit the streets it was corrected! Now nothing! No wonder we look so sloppy,also look at vehicles does anyone even get them washed? But the same guys will bitch and moan about the vehicles as they throw garbage everywhere inside!
Don't want to work I a fast district, bid out. Wait, maybe you can't.
You deny my time due, attempt to force quotas with contact cards/anovs/parkers, make me drive around in unsafe/over-used vehicles, ding officers for stupid shit, the department/city is trying any way they can to fuck the police, take our pension, and make us the political scapegoat in the media......and you think I'm worried about coming to work with facial hair? I'm not going to concern myself with piddly ass shit, when you (the city/department) clearly don't care about its officers. This is anything BUT a paramilitary organization. I was in the military. You have a sense of pride, a sense of duty for your country. I have no sense of duty to the ghetto rats, or the weasel politicians of the city who have turned their backs on us. I have my fellow officers to worry about as well as my family. That's it. The city can go fuck themselves. When you start treating the officers in this department better, then I'll worry about "my facial hair".
Why do people get full arm tattoos then feel they have to roll their uniform sleeves up to the elbows to show them off? It looks thuggish and unprofessional and childish.
Anonymous said...
Captain Piggy in 005 is fucking with the working police...he wants to write people with "illegal beards" and wants our shoes shined even though its cold, wet, and snowy out...and you wonder why activity is down? Piggy and the 10 hour day is making 005 a very shitty place to work, Things were looking up when Commander Watson came here, but now we are back in the shitter. It's a shame too because we have a lot of good Sgt's and P.O.'s
2/13/2015 03:03:00 AM
Captain Pigott never cared about how instructors dressed at the academy, yet he is worried about the district officers? That seems strange. He is trying to improve morale so clean up boys and girls!
I'll cut my flowing locks when everyone else cuts their dreads.
-DB 011 1st watch
Why do officers wear the stocking cap with star on the side , should've star be worn in front of head.
Some police officers should wear a stocking cap with a propeller on top .
How ironic that someone like Ruth will be writing people up for wrong doing.
That is the true definition of the pot calling the kettle black.
Captain Piggy in 005 is fucking with the working police...he wants to write people with "illegal beards" and wants our shoes shined even though its cold, wet, and snowy out...and you wonder why activity is down? Piggy and the 10 hour day is making 005 a very shitty place to work, Things were looking up when Commander Watson came here, but now we are back in the shitter. It's a shame too because we have a lot of good Sgt's and P.O.'s
2/13/2015 03:03:00 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ha Ha
You were warned he was a POS with no actual police experience nor people skills.
Anonymous said...
Start at the Academy!!!!
2/13/2015 08:49:00 AM
Can't, none of them at the Academy know anything about being the police, how to properly train or discipline a recruit.
Anyone that knew about training is long gone.
Anonymous said...
I came on the job in 1973 and back then we had stand up inspection at roll call every day and revolver inspection every Wednesday. It was a very rare occasion not to fall in at roll call and have inspection. I retired in 2010 and when I retired it was a rare occasion that we were inspected at roll call. The dept. slowly let the appearance of this department go to hell. I would be totally embarrassed to show up to work looking like some of my fellow officers did. Give some one an inch and they take a yard. Have some self respect for yourself and show up looking decent. DOES YOUR APPEARANCE COMMAND RESPECT?
2/13/2015 03:02:00 PM
Who can forget revolver inspection? Prince Spaghetti Day!
Anonymous said...
When will they start monitoring GPS and ensuring that every police officer swipes in and out . Quit worrying about uniform standards , what about all the hidden sworn officers assigned to office duty while one man cars patrol the streets of Chicago .
2/13/2015 09:11:00 AM
When will they monitor the one that got dumped from the Academy and sent to R&D.
This one doesn't work a full week.
Marking the A&A's as if she is present for work YET she has missed at least 4 days so far as she's been here at R & D.
WTF! It's THEFT
I wish I could have that kind of job.
Hey Karen, what do you plan to do about her?
It's your job on the line too.
Pull my Finger...
It's about time! We look like a bunch of slobs on this department! Greasy dreads, five inch nails, shit stuck through your fkn noses,etc, etc.. A uniform is just that, everyone is supposed to look UNIFORM! If you don't know the meaning, look it up! We have to have at least FIVE different approved uniforms depending on years of service. Just fkn brilliant R&D! And that fkn beanie looking baseball cap is about the most embarrassing looking hat I've ever seen!I'd wear the five crown over that dorky looking thing ANYDAY! So I for one am welcoming the crack down, if in deed true.
When I got on, every copper looked the same. If you don't like the uniform of the department you applied and took the job for, QUIT! And if you think jeans and a backwards ballcap makes you a better copper, you really have some issues. I bet I made more quality arrests in blue polyester than most of these new dime baq, DOPW hairgels.
Just look at other Police Departments all over this country compared to ours, just fkn embarrassing! And I don't want to hear about the morale bullshit. After almost a quarter century of doing this job, I'm just as disgruntled as the next guy, but If you don't have at least enough pride and self esteem to care about your own appearance, you need some serious help.
Anonymous said...
OT: Regarding merit promotions.
So sgt's got merit promoted supposedly because of their great job as PO's. They we're put in b/c the "bosses" saw something special in them. Such spectacular work ethic and leadership skills that the dept just had to bypass hundreds of people that scored well on the test to promote these people instead.
So after their merit promotion, it's truly amazing to see how many of them are now in caps offices and hidden spots. The dept just has to promote them b/c they're so special and then pay them 100k to work in the caps office. Where they can really utilize those unbelievably special leadership skills that got them the merit promotion. It's sickening.
If u get a merit promo the least u should be is out there as a sect sgt's earning that dam promo.
2/13/2015 11:02:00 AM
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Agreed.
It's no different that 98% of the desk dollies out there. Afraid to work the street.
If this dept. put civilians in those jobs or hired retired PO's; we wouldn't need to hire 1000 more officers!
These people Should Not be the police.
Anonymous said...
So when did Sgt Karen C. become director of research and development? What does that position pay? Of course she worked in crime control strategies for Garry! Garry must be leaving. Anybody who worked for him he set up in nice spots. Shouldn't that position be filled by a lieutenant or above?
2/13/2015 12:02:00 PM
Another one that has little to no street experience in the past 15 years!
What a f ing joke
True on no beat tags in 019. What gives?
So they really want to fuck with coppers when morale is barely treading water, huh? Don't get me wrong....the 3" fingernails painted hot pink wiff CZs glued on are unacceptable. Ditto the mangy assed foot long dreadlocks on some of the brothers. But dinging guys for minor uniform infractions like salty/unpolished boots after the snow we just and still have or a missing name tag or no mace holder (cuz the one the city issued was shit that broke in 2 days, literally) is the surest way to cause dissension amongst the ranks. Then add in the fact that white shirts who have the same or worse infractions won't have a single word said to them. Anyone written up for bullshit better respond accordingly. The window of opportunity to fire back a response for being fucked with for pretty much no reason closes fast. Put up or shut up ladies and gents. Put that money where your mouth is.
OK, I get the fingernails and dreadlocks part, but you lost me at the no nametag and mace holder spot. You get something like $700 a year for uniform needs. Last I checked, a nametag cost $6 and a pouch for the pepper spray costs like $15. So $700 - $21 equals $679. And odds are, you're NOT going to have to replace them in the next year. Ergo $700 - $0 = $700. But let me guess.... you are one of these guys that thinks you can make it through an entire 30 year career with the uniforms you bought in the academy. Man up bitch. Don't make the job easy for these Inspectors. Spend 1/5th of your uniform allowance every year on uniforms and odds are they will not catch you off base!
Chicago Police look like crap, just look around, uniform pants on some are turning gray, blue shirts that are fade, white shirts worn by certain Sgts. are beige, just look at the Midnight K9 Sergeant, this guy has a ton of money, drives junk cars and looks like a bum. Wait, now you have certain groups with braids down to their asses and our Barbie Girl Cops with their pony tails down to the cheeks of their asses, so when dude fights with them he can drag them down the street like the cavemen do. We have only ourselves to blame for what we look like, the excuse of using your uniform checks for your car insurance or your kids shoes is pure BS. SHAPE UP>
One name: Insp. Joe Marrato(sp?) (RIP)would fly around with us in 007.Wrote more good paper(excellent response,etc) on Coppers than BS Inspector beefs.He mentored me as a new Sgt.I would imagine that this new breed is no where near his caliber.I may be wrong.
There is something to be said about uniform standards, and penny ante BS can be addressed one time,(like at roll-call inspection), then written up if no compliance.BS beef back in the day was not wearing your hat, even if you quickly bailed out of the squad after dude.
Good luck,stay safe.
Ret.
Our inspector warning was
"Sgt Walsh in the district".
Ah, the good ole days.
Hate to sound all old timey, but I agree with those saying uniform standards have gotten outta whack.
Guys with earrings...in each fuckin ear.
Scruffy ass beards. Goatees.
Short sleeved uniform shirts, with long sleeved tee shirts. Dirty, crusty, wrinkled pants, that haven't been laundered in forever.
What The Fuck!
Whatever, this organization has slipped into a sloppy mess.
All the "real" police that don't wear duty belts or carry extra magazines.
All the eccentric hair styles(male and female), odd colors and or cuts.
Grizzly lack of unkempt shaving.
EXCESSIVE make up and even worse god damn perfume/cologne. The horrendous stench that comes off of some officers (male/female) is just God awful and offensive.
Dirty, torn, worn, or poorly fitting uniforms.
Clean it up people, if for nothing else your own personal appearance.
Inspectors doing court rounds, city wants D unit heads on a platter for stealing court time. Investigation almost done. All three areas in deep doodie
I guarantee they won't fuck with people with dreads.
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I'm getting a little thin on top. Hair gell looks ridiculous and I'm not gonna do the shave-whats -left, off.
Soooooo....What do those sewn in dreads that look (and probably smell) like threads from a floor mop cost...
Sept, 1967. Walked into roll call room in 010 at 23rd & Damen on my first day out of the academy. above the full length mirror was a sign that read "DOES YOUR APPEARANCE COMMAND RESPECT.?. That became my motto from that day forward, both on and off duty, in uniform or civilian dress. I'm now 68 and it has served me well. When you look sharp you will be treated with respect. Conversely, when you go out on the street, in any district, looking like a bum or a thug, that's just how you will be treated. My apologies if this is posted twice.
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Remember the same in 1979. In 1967 I was a teen in 010 growing up and you probadly tuned me up, LOL.
I am also retired but remember that you always tried to look like the real police and the bosses in the old days made certain your were. It seemed all the lack of uniform and copper' looking like swines started around 2005.
I retired as a dick and we wore suits and occasional sport coat out in the field. The tac guys of know dress like they are digging ditches knowing they are not doing U/C work.
I have spoken to many outside LE guys wondering why the CPD has some many differant way to dress in foeld in uniform. My answer is the no clue bosses don't care and CTA bus drivers have better uniform standards then CPD.
The blame falls under the bosses not the poor guys in patrol. Zero leadership get a bad attitude from the street copper'.
God bless the great CPD.
I'm not shaving, I have a bump card and if they say it's too long. My reply is I'm Muslim.... Religious belief...
Please bring on the Inspectors.
I guess I'm middle of the road, 17yrs on.
What I see, and what I don't like is, our COMMAND PRESENCE.
'WE", look like shit.
I've worked in the 'Ghetto', I am the 'real' POLICE.
Why act like/dress like the assholes you patrol?
The beards, Nike's, ridiculous shit, like your blood type on a vest.
Get your ass squared away and be proud of who YOU are.
Just because you work in a shit area doesn't mean you get to be an asshole too.
Where has the pride gone? It's your own fault. Do you mean to tell me because the City don't care neither should we?
Word from the 005th District is that Captain Piggy will be checking the shine on shoes to make sure they reflect his snout. He will also do the "Snap and Test" test to see if all men are wearing their Jock Strap and Cup.
Captain Piggy!!! Too Funny. LMFAO.
Col Hanibal Smith.
Black Hawks game tonight JRW hanhs up don't cheat and watch the hockey game! once in a life time experience!
When my district provides me with a beat tag I will display it. I am not an artist and will not be cutting and pasting fucking beat tags. It is not my responsibility to invent beat tags out of paper and cardboard!
Will I be required to wear my loafers while in my cruiser?
Wow I read every post here. Some were good others were bad. In 1994 we had one type of pants. One outside vest cover, if you wanted a black vest cover it was only worn under your jacket. I see sooooo many officers looking like bums, yes bums. I heard one officer complain about having a FILTHY vest cover because he does surveillance on rooftops. I saw a guy in court today with a beard form the hells angles an looked like he slept in his uniform for three days. I see a lot of different ways we wear our uniforms and am embarrassed about it. We all won't look alike but beards, goatees, crazy gym shoes, neck tattoos, full sleeve tattoos, backwards baseball caps, filthy uniforms, I can keep going on. I have 20 plus years and have no problem with inspectors or inspections. We are an embarrassment to ourselves. Just because you work in 011 015 or 007 you don't have to be a freakin pig. I have worked in 011 the past 16 years and I can pass a uniform inspection any day of the week. Grow up guys, no beards, clean your shirt, vest cover, and get a real bump card. Oh and get rid of the dreads, its bullshit.
Now go ahead and bitch at me. 85 percent of us look like bozos, it is embarrassing.
Hmmm.
Time check on the working zone.
Does your appearance command respect
Haircut standards poster.
All been replaced by the uniform flowchart. Well, I guess they needed to do something.
Ohh, what about the guys with dreads, Ohh, what about the broads with nails...
Is THIS who you are comparing yourself to?
As my Daddy always said (maybe you didn't have a Daddy so here is some knowledge)
I don't care about what they are doing, I care about YOU!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Start at the Academy!!!!
2/13/2015 08:49:00 AM
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The academy sets the standards for everything. If you are that jealous, then maybe you should have stayed in school to get a master's degree. That way you might have been an instructor.
Under Hillard, the uniform code began to crumble.
(OT) willie Wilson joins the rahm pandering club giving gifts to the cheaters
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-jackie-robinson-west-black-history-month-met-20150213-story.html
Hey willie why not send the trophy to Vegas and the cash for the real real winners?
Anonymous said...
You deny my time due, attempt to force quotas with contact cards/anovs/parkers, make me drive around in unsafe/over-used vehicles, ding officers for stupid shit, the department/city is trying any way they can to fuck the police, take our pension, and make us the political scapegoat in the media......and you think I'm worried about coming to work with facial hair? I'm not going to concern myself with piddly ass shit, when you (the city/department) clearly don't care about its officers. This is anything BUT a paramilitary organization. I was in the military. You have a sense of pride, a sense of duty for your country. I have no sense of duty to the ghetto rats, or the weasel politicians of the city who have turned their backs on us. I have my fellow officers to worry about as well as my family. That's it. The city can go fuck themselves. When you start treating the officers in this department better, then I'll worry about "my facial hair".
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Hey self righteous, self serving "hero": these are the uniform standards that have existed on our department long before you were a member of our rank and file. If you don't like the rules, or can't abide by them, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out! Oh, and by the way, this IS a para-military organization. Yours and other's failure to recognize this fact is most of the problem.
Now go ahead and bitch at me. 85 percent of us look like bozos, it is embarrassing.
2/13/2015 09:25:00 PM
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how about the bozo in 002 tac. Mohawk, fatigue pants, tactical shirt and about 100 lbs of gear all over his body. It appears that he is preparing for some sort of island invasion... aka, blowhard.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Start at the Academy!!!!
2/13/2015 08:49:00 AM
Can't, none of them at the Academy know anything about being the police, how to properly train or discipline a recruit.
Anyone that knew about training is long gone.
2/13/2015 06:59:00 PM
Funny you should say that, because lo and behold, the last one to hold anyone up to any sort of a standard at the academy, Capt RP, is now an inspector!
Be careful what you wish for!!
When I started we had stand up inspection every day, weapons inspection every wednesday.
No big deal.
Our shoes were polished and uniforms to regs
It helps to put you into a professional state of mind
You wore the uniform to regs in the academy, why all of a sudden you treat it like shit
I worked uniform, blue jeans and dress clothes.
And at each level I looked professional, looked clean, looked put together
I didn't act or dress like a SF guy in the sandbox
You are a POLICE OFFICER in the City of Chicago
Your job is to maintain order and enforce the rules by looking like someone who is in control and professional
Get over yourselves, respect the uniform (men have died wearing it) and represent the CPD in the most positive way possible no matter the situation or circumstance
Anonymous said...
Will I be required to wear my loafers while in my cruiser?
2/13/2015 09:24:00 PM
You and partner ARE the loafers in your cruiser.
Anonymous said...
True on no beat tags in 019. What gives?
2/13/2015 07:29:00 PM
There are people in 019 who never log on to the PDT in the thought that they are being slick and cannot be tracked or called if they do not log on. Top notch sergeants don't say a word.
Anonymous said...
Our inspector warning was
"Sgt Walsh in the district".
Ah, the good ole days.
Hate to sound all old timey, but I agree with those saying uniform standards have gotten outta whack.
2/13/2015 07:52:00 PM
That was Sgt Ward, not Walsh. Or ask for a time check. I gave up on that shit years ago and simply say on the radio, "Inspector in the district at " Who the hell are we fooling? Just say inspector. It violates no rules.
Anonymous said...
I'll cut my flowing locks when everyone else cuts their dreads.
-DB 011 1st watch
2/13/2015 06:37:00 PM
And everyone else is waiting for you to cut your flowing locks...
Im voting for a dead Alderman?
No really because RAHM wants to appoint one.
It is all legit. worry about your partners beard. Cry about the desk dollies 4 inch nails. Watch out for the guys with baseball caps.
Guys grow up don't worry about everyone else. Just hope when you call for help they show up.
Talk about crcking the whip. Uniforms, court hours !, and the sparring of anyone is to be the norm for failure to go by the book.
Starting 01 Feb, you will be required to sign a new A and A sheet everyday, in and out.
If it disappears, the watch sec' takes time. You will be required to sign in and at check off. No times by your signature. Unit shall retain for 0ne year. The city know the card swiper cost money but paper is cheap.
No signature, you will be shown not working for payroll sheets. No one will call you in to tell you , you forgot. When you see the less $$ on your stub, getting your money will be a 5 month process.
This all will be enforced and bosses will be sparred for not going 100 percent into this new system.
FYI - Unit 189 will not be exempt !
Shit will hit the fan with 26th. and Cal. court time !
City hall is not playing and know the training div is getting full with PPO'.
As far as pride goes, the dept. Lost its pride due to the command staff. Today about 98% of all gold stars never passed a promotional exam and almost half are functional illiterates. As far as uniforms go there are so many combinations who can really keep track anymore. As far as wearing clean, serviceable uniforms and footwear that should be a given. Long hair, well you can have it as long as you want as long as it is worn or shaped over the ears and not touching the top of the collar (for guys) and must allow for the crown hat to fit properly on your grape ( head). Problem here is that for so long there were no inspectors, nor sgt.s and or lt.s really enforcing such uniform standards and now they hammer falls. Oh well, it will calm down like it always has in the past but as far a pride goes, a fish rots from the head down and this dept. is rotten from the top down. Don't expect much to change in the near future, as for me I got 2 yrs to go then I'm gone..........stay safe and don't sweat the small stuff, this job use to be a profession now it's just a BS city job......
To 12:02 pm. Right On!!!!!!!
When Downtown makes a Captain an Inspector you know someone is being hidden.
We had a guy on our old gang team that stapled loose patches to his uniform, stapled shirt sleeves where buttons came off and even stapled the shield to the crown hat. Now he made det. Maybe he will be stapling the suits he gets from the second hand store.
Start with Body Armor for the desk folks
I feel bad about all the old schoolers complaining about facial hair on here. Eye on the prize boys, stop bitching about things that don't matter.. if you have so much time on, you should know what matters and doesn't. Has-beens/never-weres.
When we came out of the academy back in 2011, we had self respect. These new punks coming out now don't know how to be the real police. It took me almost 3 years to get on the tact team in 007. Now some of them are getting on in 2 years. As that old guy from the 1950's said "the times, they are a changing" Go Rangers
CPT Piggot has about as much respect as the honorable Captain Crunch... please note, my kids respect one of the two, and my kids only know the obvious one.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Speaking of Baracco's . . . please put your turn signal on when you are pulling to the curb to park by the bank.
2/13/2015 05:56:00 PM
I mention that because I watch from my living room window... And when 5 explorers are parked (by the bank, smart alec,) that's called congregating.. And burning up a spot. That's how half off becomes wearing out your welcome. Most cops know how to ruin a good thing.
Phat Phil's stupid baseball hats started the slide.
The academy sets the standards for everything. If you are that jealous, then maybe you should have stayed in school to get a master's degree. That way you might have been an instructor.
2/13/2015 09:41:00 PM
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Don't need a masters degree to stand in front of a class of recruits and read from a lesson plan! Or, to dress in civilian clothes to role play scenarios.
What you do need it some actual police street experience. More than that 2yrs you did when you first came on the job, after which you went or work in caps or some other inside position. You need to know how to treat people and how to properly discipline them as well. (Oh, and that means not to berate them or abuse them)
The problem is too many patrol guys pretending to be tact or special ops. It's so silly it makes me laugh. Especially the guys with all the non sense gear. Look at LAPD. Old school uniform and all are clean shaven. No excuses. What happened to CPD? Growing up I remember the coppers still wearing dress shoes! Lol. They were the real police dealing with 900 murders a year running up and down the project building stairs. Too many people want to look cool and not look professional.
There was an officer that used to work at the academy that wore postal grey/blue pants. No one said a word about it.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Im wearing a leather jockstrap under my pants to tease those inspectors,Can you smell the leather.
2/13/2015 02:34:00 AM
Haven't you noticed the Keesing Bandit following you around lately? Things that make him go mmmmm.
There are always a lot of comment complimenting the NYPD and how they stuck together against the mayor. Maybe one of the reasons is that they have pride in themselves and cohesiveness because they look and act like the police. Look at any photos or videos of NYPD cops and they are all in clean and proper uniforms - looking like the professional police they are. We still look like a casting call for Hill Street Blues.
Hey Tony A...remember when we got caught eating pasta fagioli at Big John's (?) waaaaay out of the district and got caught by an inspector? He asked what we were doing, and you said, "Well boss, we're eating pasta fagioli". Still laugh about that and miss those times!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Which knit hat is the real knit hat? I see about a dozen different types. Just bring back the Rocky Squirrel hat. Believe it or not, it still looks more professional.
2/13/2015 03:41:00 PM
It was warm and folded in half made a decent pillow.
Anonymous said...
"revolver inspection" every Wednesday.....what a hoot!.....now, weapons inspection once a week?...
questions:
a) a line of officers draw their weapons, and show them..
why would a department allow a room full of armed officers draw their loaded weapons and hold them out?
b) do the officers' supervisors have the expertise and training to examine the weapons and ammunition they are examining?
c) the CPD used to have a rule at their shooting ranges that mandated that no weapon be removed from the holster unless and until the officer was "on the line" (i.e., in the shooting booth)....now, it's permissible for a room full of officers (5 officers, 30 officers, etc.), to stand next to each other, and draw their loaded weapons all at the same time?.......
d) what happens if there is a tragic weapons discharge, resulting in injury or death, during one of these "weapons inspections"? (research training injuries/deaths during weapons training)...who is responsible, what boss is placing his or her name on the weapons inspection order, who authorizes weapons inspections outside of a CPD range,.......?
2/13/2015 05:00:00 PM
If you've ever been at a weapons inspection (doubtful) then you know that the officers take the magazines out before taking the weapon out of the holster. Yes ... there may be one in the pipe but I never heard of an accidental discharge. What I HAVE heard of and actually saw was magazines with no rounds in them, NO magazines in the weapons and slides that were literally rusted shut. If you want to work with someone who carries one of these weapons, be my guest. I'd prefer weapons inspection, moron.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Start at the Academy!!!!
2/13/2015 08:49:00 AM
Can't, none of them at the Academy know anything about being the police, how to properly train or discipline a recruit.
Anyone that knew about training is long gone.
2/13/2015 06:59:00 PM
Funny you should say that, because lo and behold, the last one to hold anyone up to any sort of a standard at the academy, Capt RP, is now an inspector!
Be careful what you wish for!!
2/13/2015 10:38:00 PM
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So, your solution is to have no standards, especially for the personnel at the academy?
Thank you for disclosing that, except for Captain RP, there are no standards at the academy.
That explains why the recruits are dumber than ever. The recruits do not have a clue about what to do. Thank you rejects at the academy for passing the responsibility to the personnel at patrol.
Does anyone really worry about this nonsense? Does it make a difference? Look at it this way we will have more coppers on the street will they respond to assist calls? Or will they be the fashion police? Time will tell!
Anonymous said...
Screw them! I may look good, but I do nothing! No proactive police shit! I just ride around in a billboard on city gas doing nothing!
2/13/2015 07:27:00 AM
Yes, and by doing nothing you make your fellow officers work harder to protect the public. Be proud of yourself
Now go ahead and bitch at me. 85 percent of us look like bozos, it is embarrassing.
2/13/2015 09:25:00 PM
Yes, as a retired guy I agree with you. The standards started to go down with Hilliard and went completely to shit under Phil. I do not live in the city now but pass through frequently. The department looks like hell
The CO book thing about shooting at a vehicle is bullshit. Just like the order they put out years ago about shooting fleeing Burglar's. A few years after the fleeing burglar policy, my partner shot a fleeing burglar. The bad guy was burglarizing his garage and the 19yr. old took off when confronted. Offender was shot and killed. My partner dared the IAD to discipline him. In the criminal code it's there you can shoot a fleeing forceable felon. Burglary is a forceable felony. The CR went quietly into the sunset.
Whoever said "FortFellatio", should be given anaward, and buy me a new computer for pouring my morning joe all over it through my mouth as I laughed my ass off. Things have been shitty with a sick child. Thank you kind sir. I needed that.
Not a L.E.O, just happy we have what is left of what was once a great police force!
Is there any more room for Rahm to stick his half digit in you guys any further?
Thank you for what you all do.
Lt Sadowski is creaming over this
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They better be straight as arrows if they want to write me up .
2/13/2015 02:47:00 PM
Why tough guy? What are you doing to do?
To: 2/13/2015 01:51:00 PM
I work in a busy "suburb" right next to Harvey. I hate to break the news, but some of the Harvey police look like s**t, complete with dreads. Also, all of their uniforms look 20 years old, even on the new guys. I wouldn't use them as the standard of comparison.
Hard working police should get some slack; if they have dusty boots or stubble, a supervisor might want to ask if they just worked 6p - 6a, had court 9a - noon, slept 3 hours, and then came back for a 6p start. That is the norm for many cops in the 6th district. So they may not always look like a spit shined Highland Park cop who wrote 3 parkers and did a school detail. However, some guys look like bums all the time - there is a line. After a weekend off, arriving in a clean uniform with some hygiene is a reasonable expectation. I would think that same rationale applies in Chicago.
And to the veteran who insists that your appearance "command respect" so that "even if you don't know what you're doing, people will believe you do" - come off it. We have one cop who comes with shoes and brass shined every day, who has no idea what he's doing and on top of it doesn't do anything anyway - and he's been on for over 20 years. We have some young guys on year 5 who don't always look perfect, but break their a**es out there, back each other up, and have a lot of street cred because the sh*theads know they know what they're doing. If you don't think hood rats look beyond the shoe polish, you're nuts.
Anonymous said...
"revolver inspection" every Wednesday.....what a hoot!.....now, weapons inspection once a week?...
questions:
a) a line of officers draw their weapons, and show them..
why would a department allow a room full of armed officers draw their loaded weapons and hold them out?
b) do the officers' supervisors have the expertise and training to examine the weapons and ammunition they are examining?
c) the CPD used to have a rule at their shooting ranges that mandated that no weapon be removed from the holster unless and until the officer was "on the line" (i.e., in the shooting booth)....now, it's permissible for a room full of officers (5 officers, 30 officers, etc.), to stand next to each other, and draw their loaded weapons all at the same time?.......
d) what happens if there is a tragic weapons discharge, resulting in injury or death, during one of these "weapons inspections"? (research training injuries/deaths during weapons training)...who is responsible, what boss is placing his or her name on the weapons inspection order, who authorizes weapons inspections outside of a CPD range,.......?
2/13/2015 05:00:00 PM
Seriously? You must not be a cop. If a supervisor doesn't inspect some of these weapons many officers wouldn't clean them or take care of them. It is a tool to possibly save your life. You don't think that it is important to make sure its at least clean with proper ammo? You are supposed to be trained. They used to do this on a daily basis and I bet you had a better chance of being in a plane crash than an accidental discharge at roll call. Maybe its the idiots we are hiring!!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Talk about crcking the whip. Uniforms, court hours !, and the sparring of anyone is to be the norm for failure to go by the book.
Starting 01 Feb, you will be required to sign a new A and A sheet everyday, in and out.
Really, It is already 14 Feb and I have not seen or heard of this!!!! Go back in Mommys basement
2/14/2015 05:32:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The academy sets the standards for everything. If you are that jealous, then maybe you should have stayed in school to get a master's degree. That way you might have been an instructor.
2/13/2015 09:41:00 PM
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Don't need a masters degree to stand in front of a class of recruits and read from a lesson plan! Or, to dress in civilian clothes to role play scenarios.
What you do need it some actual police street experience. More than that 2yrs you did when you first came on the job, after which you went or work in caps or some other inside position. You need to know how to treat people and how to properly discipline them as well. (Oh, and that means not to berate them or abuse them)
2/14/2015 05:49:00 AM
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Playa don't hate the playa hate the game. I am schooling you on how the game is payed playa, you gotta have game.
Take some pride in your appearance and show pride in your job or just get out. You're not helping anyone by being a miserable slob collecting a check for half-ass policing a community you despise. Do us all a favor and find something else to do with your miserable life.
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how about the bozo in 002 tac. Mohawk, fatigue pants, tactical shirt and about 100 lbs of gear all over his body. It appears that he is preparing for some sort of island invasion... aka, blowhard.
Please don't lump him in with the tact team. He works an 06 car.
There was an officer that used to work at the academy that wore postal grey/blue pants. No one said a word about it.
2/14/2015 05:56:00 AM
I remember that too. He/she/it would show up around 11 am, drop a bin of envelopes off at the front desk and leave. Came in on saturday and did the same thing. SOS ghost payroller? Greek clout? What the hell was up with that?
Speaking of Baracco's . . . please put your turn signal on when you are pulling to the curb to park by the bank.
OP here: I meant we (the Police) should use our turn signals.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"revolver inspection" every Wednesday.....what a hoot!.....now, weapons inspection once a week?...
questions:
a) a line of officers draw their weapons, and show them..
why would a department allow a room full of armed officers draw their loaded weapons and hold them out?
b) do the officers' supervisors have the expertise and training to examine the weapons and ammunition they are examining?
c) the CPD used to have a rule at their shooting ranges that mandated that no weapon be removed from the holster unless and until the officer was "on the line" (i.e., in the shooting booth)....now, it's permissible for a room full of officers (5 officers, 30 officers, etc.), to stand next to each other, and draw their loaded weapons all at the same time?.......
d) what happens if there is a tragic weapons discharge, resulting in injury or death, during one of these "weapons inspections"? (research training injuries/deaths during weapons training)...who is responsible, what boss is placing his or her name on the weapons inspection order, who authorizes weapons inspections outside of a CPD range,.......?
Seriously? Been at those when guys forget their guns, have weapons so dirty anyone would know it's not gonna fire...my personal favorite -one guys revolver was rusted to the rivers in his holster. He couldn't even draw. I'm all for a good bitch session but weapons inspection should be done religiously.
Anonymous said...
When Downtown makes a Captain an Inspector you know someone is being hidden.
2/14/2015 12:21:00 AM
Hey dumbass, captains bargained for that position in their contract a couple of contracts back. City didn't do. Contractual agrrment.
2/13/2015 06:59:00 PM
Funny you should say that, because lo and behold, the last one to hold anyone up to any sort of a standard at the academy, Capt RP, is now an inspector!
Be careful what you wish for!!
2/13/2015 10:38:00 PM
__________________
So, your solution is to have no standards, especially for the personnel at the academy?
Thank you for disclosing that, except for Captain RP, there are no standards at the academy.
That explains why the recruits are dumber than ever. The recruits do not have a clue about what to do. Thank you rejects at the academy for passing the responsibility to the personnel at patrol.
2/14/2015 09:16:00 AM
It is easy to blame the academy staff. When a recruit leaves the academy they go straight to a hot spot without any supervision. Sgts will not enforce any type of standards and PPO's are told to do nothing and stay out of trouble. What do you expect in this horrible system? Maybe a sgt could enforce some type of uniform standard? It seems the only PPO's that maintain their standards are military veterans. PPO's need to work with a experienced FTO right after leaving the academy. Every police department has an effective FTO program except CPD. I hope the new inspectors start to enforce the rules for blue shirts and Sgts.
It is time to bring back the 'Haircut Standards Board' for women and minorities. To be the police you must look like the police! Also, sunglasses should be restricted to the second watch, and a 30 day where-out period should be set for those butt enlarging Cargo Pantalones!!!
I don't care what you say, if you look at photographs from the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's the CPD has always looked like shit in uniform! Who cares we get the job done!!!
When we came out of the academy back in 2011, we had self respect. These new punks coming out now don't know how to be the real police. It took me almost 3 years to get on the tact team in 007. Now some of them are getting on in 2 years. As that old guy from the 1950's said "the times, they are a changing" Go Rangers
LMFAO, you can't be serious, please give me the definition of the REAL POLICE? You have to be a troll, you can't be serious. Listen to what you wrote, It took me almost 3 years to get on the tact team. Now a guy with 2.4 years is on it. You got to be kidding me. Please if you are serious you need to quit this job. One very important thing, being on the tact team DONT make you da police. If you actually are on it, good for you because no one in the city wants to do this thankless job. Look at the shit that came out the other day asking for volunteers to join tact. 20-25 years ago tact teams would go get a gun and go home, they would do some good police work and get rewarded, guy with 5 years could not get on it. Now they go reverse seniority buddy.
Just slow your roll joe, you be aight!!!!!!!!
LMFAO, you got 3 years to get tact, next guy has 2.3years and you are upset. WTF?????????
EXCESSIVE make up and even worse god damn perfume. The horrendous stench that comes off of some officers is offensive.
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That ended when (and God love her and keep her safe!) Hammer retired...
Anonymous said...
2/13/2015 06:59:00 PM
Funny you should say that, because lo and behold, the last one to hold anyone up to any sort of a standard at the academy, Capt RP, is now an inspector!
Be careful what you wish for!!
2/13/2015 10:38:00 PM
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So, your solution is to have no standards, especially for the personnel at the academy?
Thank you for disclosing that, except for Captain RP, there are no standards at the academy.
That explains why the recruits are dumber than ever. The recruits do not have a clue about what to do. Thank you rejects at the academy for passing the responsibility to the personnel at patrol.
2/14/2015 09:16:00 AM
It is easy to blame the academy staff. When a recruit leaves the academy they go straight to a hot spot without any supervision. Sgts will not enforce any type of standards and PPO's are told to do nothing and stay out of trouble. What do you expect in this horrible system? Maybe a sgt could enforce some type of uniform standard? It seems the only PPO's that maintain their standards are military veterans. PPO's need to work with a experienced FTO right after leaving the academy. Every police department has an effective FTO program except CPD. I hope the new inspectors start to enforce the rules for blue shirts and Sgts.
2/14/2015 02:19:00 PM
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The people at the academy are really retarded.
The personnel at the academy are in charge of the FTO program and the training after the academy.
It really is not wonder that the recruits are the coming out of there dumber than when they went in.
Many high ranking supervisors are noticing the same pattern.
"It really is not wonder that the recruits are the coming out of there dumber than when they went in.
Many high ranking supervisors are noticing the same pattern.
2/14/2015 08:28:00 PM"
I read this same nonsense before.
It's not like these High Ranking Supervisors are shining beacons of competent leadership
"Hey dumbass, captains bargained for that position in their contract a couple of contracts back. City didn't do. Contractual agrrment.
2/14/2015 02:14:00 PM"
A union for an appointed rank but all Unions suck except mine. Inspectors do what a Sgt does or should do on a daily basis. Bargain for an appointed rank while you're an appointed rank. Take your railroad bars& your Inspectors Exempt Star and jam them up your tailpipe Mr Fairnes&Legitmacy
" Too many people want to look cool and not look professional.
2/14/2015 05:55:00 AM"
Except Rick Flair, he looked cool & professional with the double thigh rigs. Miss him Already lol
just watch the news, love the cops standing around a crime scene hands in pocket or talking on a cell phone. One better is the cops with their blue tooth.
Anonymous said...
It's about time we got back to uniformity! The absolute worse thing ever were those stupid shorts!! The baseball caps and cargo pants in the district are fine, but if you're on a detail, the regulation feild uniform, including that awful hat, is a must!
2/13/2015 07:18:00 AM
Bingo!
CPD is all over the place with uniforms. I worked there for a little while before going to the suburbs. Better pay, pension, no residency, etc. Most suburbs have standards, inspections, expect you to look professional, etc. Every CPD Officer has different gear, a different look, some vests under, some vests in a carrier, you have guys that look sloppy, unshaven, etc. I picked up one for our town the other day and had to go into 5th, and no one was even wearing a vest, star or name tag in the lock up. Have some respect for yourself and show some professionalism.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Start at the Academy!!!!
2/13/2015 08:49:00 AM
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The academy sets the standards for everything. If you are that jealous, then maybe you should have stayed in school to get a master's degree. That way you might have been an instructor.
2/13/2015 09:41:00 PM
You don't need a masters degree to work at the academy. You need clout and perhaps knee pads. You must be some kind of special ed. I worked at the academy for three years and know first had the people that work there could not get a job at Walmart greeting customers. So take your papermill degree and shove it where the sun don't shine.
Captain RP had the silver spoon in his mouth and had how way paved with easy jobs his whole career. I would rather learn from someone who has been in the shit.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The CO book thing about shooting at a vehicle is bullshit. Just like the order they put out years ago about shooting fleeing Burglar's. A few years after the fleeing burglar policy, my partner shot a fleeing burglar. The bad guy was burglarizing his garage and the 19yr. old took off when confronted. Offender was shot and killed. My partner dared the IAD to discipline him. In the criminal code it's there you can shoot a fleeing forceable felon. Burglary is a forceable felony. The CR went quietly into the sunset.
2/14/2015 10:13:00 AM
CR may have gone away but burglary has not been a forcible felony since the 80's. Maybe you heard of a US Supreme Court case called Tennessee v Garner. This case has not been overturned. Officers like you (if you are an officer) are exactly the reason why the younger officers don't learn the job correctly. They get terrible advice from guys like you.
Anonymous said...
CPD is all over the place with uniforms. I worked there for a little while before going to the suburbs. Better pay, pension, no residency, etc. Most suburbs have standards, inspections, expect you to look professional, etc. Every CPD Officer has different gear, a different look, some vests under, some vests in a carrier, you have guys that look sloppy, unshaven, etc. I picked up one for our town the other day and had to go into 5th, and no one was even wearing a vest, star or name tag in the lock up. Have some respect for yourself and show some professionalism.
2/15/2015 04:32:00 AM
A vest in the lockup!!! Go back to whatever hick burb you come from you fuckin clown, why would you need a vest in the lockup or any other lockup facility unless it's for edged weapons not bullet proof...
I think we as a department look like shit. In the 80's, not counting your dress uniform, it was the crown hat or the winter hat, leather jacket or longer nylon jacket & the waist length nylon jacket for spring & fall.
Long sleeves with tie, short sleeves no tie.
A no-brainer.
Anonymous said...
The CO book thing about shooting at a vehicle is bullshit. Just like the order they put out years ago about shooting fleeing Burglar's. A few years after the fleeing burglar policy, my partner shot a fleeing burglar. The bad guy was burglarizing his garage and the 19yr. old took off when confronted. Offender was shot and killed. My partner dared the IAD to discipline him. In the criminal code it's there you can shoot a fleeing forceable felon. Burglary is a forceable felony. The CR went quietly into the sunset.
2/14/2015 10:13:00 AM
Dare the inspector eh. "In the criminal code..." OK then.
There is something in Washington D.C called the Supreme Court of the United States. In 1985 the US Supreme Court decided the case of TENNESSEE v. GARNER, 471 U.S. 1 (1985).
Well, the decision itself can say it better than I can:
No. 83-1035.
Argued October 30, 1984
Decided March 27, 1985 *
A Tennessee statute provides that if, after a police officer has given notice of an intent to arrest a criminal suspect, the suspect flees or forcibly resists, "the officer may use all the necessary means to effect the arrest." Acting under the authority of this statute, a Memphis police officer shot and killed appellee-respondent Garner's son as, after being told to halt, the son fled over a fence at night in the backyard of a house he was suspected of burglarizing. The officer used deadly force despite being "reasonably sure" the suspect was unarmed and thinking that he was 17 or 18 years old and of slight build. The father subsequently brought an action in Federal District Court, seeking damages under 42 U.S.C. 1983 for asserted violations of his son's constitutional rights. The District Court held that the statute and the officer's actions were constitutional. The Court of Appeals reversed.
Held:
The Tennessee statute is unconstitutional insofar as it authorizes the use of deadly force against, as in this case, an apparently unarmed, nondangerous fleeing suspect; such force may not be used unless necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others. Pp. 7-22. [471 U.S. 1, 2]
(a) Apprehension by the use of deadly force is a seizure subject to the Fourth Amendment's reasonableness requirement. To determine whether such a seizure is reasonable, the extent of the intrusion on the suspect's rights under that Amendment must be balanced against the governmental interests in effective law enforcement. This balancing process demonstrates that, notwithstanding probable cause to seize a suspect, an officer may not always do so by killing him. The use of deadly force to prevent the escape of all felony suspects, whatever the circumstances, is constitutionally unreasonable.
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And that is why millions have been paid out to families all over the country since then and why there are police officers sitting in prison for killing an unarmed suspect. A "fleeing felon assertion" does not give one a double 00 license to kill, But you don't have to believe me. Go and dare that inspector and cite Illinois Criminal Code.
And do pay attention when the detective reads to you, "You have the right to remain silent..."
"...I have been in civilian dress for the last 12 years..."
How's the uniform fit?
It's about time we got back to uniformity! The absolute worse thing ever were those stupid shorts!! The baseball caps and cargo pants in the district are fine, but if you're on a detail, the regulation feild uniform, including that awful hat, is a must!
2/13/2015 07:18:00 AM
No, cargo pants and ball caps are fine for landscapers, not policemen. Look like a policemen and you'll be treated like one by your sergeants and the civilians you encounter. Ball caps, cargo pants and merit promotions are the legacy of Fat slob Phil "Can I hold your coat Mr. Hanhardt" Cline. So, whose side are you on?
Get rid of the baseball caps and shorts. We look like that hillbilly Renko on Hill Street Blues or players for the 1976 Chicago White Sox.
) the CPD used to have a rule at their shooting ranges that mandated that no weapon be removed from the holster unless and until the officer was "on the line" (i.e., in the shooting booth)....now, it's permissible for a room full of officers (5 officers, 30 officers, etc.), to stand next to each other, and draw their loaded weapons all at the same time?.......
d) what happens if there is a tragic weapons discharge, resulting in injury or death, during one of these "weapons inspections"? (research training injuries/deaths during weapons training)...who is responsible, what boss is placing his or her name on the weapons inspection order, who authorizes weapons inspections outside of a CPD range,.......
did u just get on, or a non police.We use to have gun inspection every weds. and stand up roll call everyday.Sometimes we even had two lines and had one step forward done before the back row pulled their weapons.No one ever got hurt.
Hick suburb? Really clown? Vests in the lock up isn't a big deal, yes. But how about a name tag and a FUCKING STAR ON YOUR SHIRT PER THE GENERAL ORDERS! The desk personnel weren't wearing vests either, are they bullet proof? Wouldn't take much for some POS to walk in and light the place up. Have some respect for yourself and the job and look the part you POS. Instead you bash the suburbs when they actually do inspections and have respectable looking Officer's. Too many Officer's on CPD are just dog asses that don't see the big picture all because they are bitter. Grow a set and clean yourself up, asshole.
RP doesn't have the stones to mess with anyone. Hell, the guy is so soft, he loves the Green Bay Packers. The PACKERS! He was a Sgt in 025, and then actually chose to go back there when he made Capt! He should have been psyched.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Start at the Academy!!!!
2/13/2015 08:49:00 AM
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The academy sets the standards for everything. If you are that jealous, then maybe you should have stayed in school to get a master's degree. That way you might have been an instructor.
2/13/2015 09:41:00 PM
You don't need a masters degree to work at the academy. You need clout and perhaps knee pads. You must be some kind of special ed. I worked at the academy for three years and know first had the people that work there could not get a job at Walmart greeting customers. So take your papermill degree and shove it where the sun don't shine.
2/15/2015 07:54:00 AM
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Instead of being jealous, have some self-respect for yourself. The instructors at the academy have pride and they know what they are doing. That is why they are assigned to the academy.
Grow a set and get your own degree and a set of skills.
Word is Gary still pissed at the foot guy who would not shake his hand so he's making a point
nonymous said...
Hick suburb? Really clown? Vests in the lock up isn't a big deal, yes. But how about a name tag and a FUCKING STAR ON YOUR SHIRT PER THE GENERAL ORDERS! The desk personnel weren't wearing vests either, are they bullet proof? Wouldn't take much for some POS to walk in and light the place up. Have some respect for yourself and the job and look the part you POS. Instead you bash the suburbs when they actually do inspections and have respectable looking Officer's. Too many Officer's on CPD are just dog asses that don't see the big picture all because they are bitter. Grow a set and clean yourself up, asshole.
2/16/2015 05:57:00 AM
Hey Burbs don't listen to some of our guys/gals when they talk shit. They're usually the ones you find at bars trying to impress the opposite sex with their hero police stories. Jag offs. Usually the biggest cry babies in the dept. Be safe.
nonymous said...
Hick suburb? Really clown? Vests in the lock up isn't a big deal, yes. But how about a name tag and a FUCKING STAR ON YOUR SHIRT PER THE GENERAL ORDERS! The desk personnel weren't wearing vests either, are they bullet proof? Wouldn't take much for some POS to walk in and light the place up. Have some respect for yourself and the job and look the part you POS. Instead you bash the suburbs when they actually do inspections and have respectable looking Officer's. Too many Officer's on CPD are just dog asses that don't see the big picture all because they are bitter. Grow a set and clean yourself up, asshole.
2/16/2015 05:57:00 AM
Hey Burbs don't listen to some of our guys/gals when they talk shit. They're usually the ones you find at bars trying to impress the opposite sex with their hero police stories. Jag offs. Usually the biggest cry babies in the dept. Be safe.
You my friend are 100 percent right. We at CPD are the sloppiest looking police department! Just terrible.
) the CPD used to have a rule at their shooting ranges that mandated that no weapon be removed from the holster unless and until the officer was "on the line" (i.e., in the shooting booth)....now, it's permissible for a room full of officers (5 officers, 30 officers, etc.), to stand next to each other, and draw their loaded weapons all at the same time?.......
d) what happens if there is a tragic weapons discharge, resulting in injury or death, during one of these "weapons inspections"? (research training injuries/deaths during weapons training)...who is responsible, what boss is placing his or her name on the weapons inspection order, who authorizes weapons inspections outside of a CPD range,.......
did u just get on, or a non police.We use to have gun inspection every weds. and stand up roll call everyday.Sometimes we even had two lines and had one step forward done before the back row pulled their weapons.No one ever got hurt
Couldnt have said it better. Retired guy here who had over 30 years on and in that time we had revolver inspection every Wednesday. No one was ever hurt or shot Why would a boss worry about having his name on a weapons inspection order. Its his fault if an officer has a weapons accident. If an officer can't even handle his weapon at an inspection, should he even be carrying a weapon on the street?
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