Today Victory, Tomorrow Headaches
Rahm is probably done as a national-type candidate, so we got that going for us:
- Mayor Rahm Emanuel has told associates he wants to “hit the re-set” button in a second term to rebuild strained and soured relationships that may have cost him politically.
He’ll have to do plenty of rebuilding to shore up his diminished clout.
After being forced to fight so hard and raise so much to defeat Jesus “Chuy” Garcia, an under-funded and relatively unknown third choice of the Progressive movement, Emanuel’s once-legendary political muscle has atrophied.
And that stick he kept hitting Garcia with?
- On the reform side, the mayor has said he would enter talks with police and fire unions with “five core principals”: phasing in higher taxpayer contributions; reining in cost-of-living increases for retirees; maintaining the current retirement age; “gradually increasing” employee contributions by roughly $300 more-a-year and exempting retirees with annual annuities of $22,000 or less.
If lawmakers, union leaders or the courts don’t go along, Emanuel will have no choice but to do what one of his most powerful City Council supporters has called inevitable: raise property taxes.
After four straight years of up-to-the-limit property tax increases for schools, he might even be forced to ask Springfield for permission to lift the property tax cap so he can go above it.
Now let's see if the FOP collapses as many have been predicting.
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Why is it that the politicians always go to the "Raise taxes" option first? Instead of looking for way to cut fat from the budget first?
Yes, I know. It is easier.
I am sure that there is PLENTY of fat that could be cut.
It's that old American political story. In the end the voters elect the best man. Chicago is safe, sorta.
The Mayoral Election is over..now let all officials get to work on the money crisis Daley left Chicago with.
Rahm trounced Chewie, and spanked his bottom, by at least 10% or more. Of course this will not solve Chicago's debt and financial problems. The only thing to cure that is for the City to go on a massive austerity program and huge cuts in spending. Do you think Rahm is man enough to do this?
And some coppers voted for Rahm??
No deals in any decrease in pension or health benefits. FOP should not be making any pension deals. These fucks let the city violate the contract daily and do nothing about it and now they want to negotiate our pension and medical benefits fuck them. You know Dean will cave it has probably been in the works for a while and we just don't know it.
Sooner or later Socialists run out of other people's money.
And Chicago has run out of other people's money.
Voted for Chuy/Kolzar in the 11th ward. Can't say I didn't try. What a damn shame.
"On the reform side, the mayor has said he would enter talks with police and fire unions with “five core principals”: phasing in higher taxpayer contributions; reining in cost-of-living increases for retirees; maintaining the current retirement age; “gradually increasing” employee contributions by roughly $300 more-a-year and exempting retirees with annual annuities of $22,000 or less."
Maintaining the retirement age and not hammering retirees with annual annuities of 22K or less is fine. But fuck the rest of those proposals.
The taxpayers are already saddled with enough of the load, especially those city employees held captive in the few remaining "nice" areas of the city. Not to mention our city services are nearly nonexistent compared to what's lavished upon the ghetto assholes to keep them semi-pacified.
Let's enter talks that truly mean something, Tiny Dancer. Let's talk about shoring up our pension funding even if it means changing the legalese currently preventing TIF money from being dipped into.
Let's talk about halting every pet project designed to enrich your connected cohorts and their clouted hangers on.
Let's talk about the non-contributors having to put some skin in the game; cut those "free" breakfasts, lunches and dinners at CPS. Cut every perk not imperative to day-to-day survival and created to keep the savages momentarily quiet.
Those that worked hard their whole lives and contributed to the system should not have a single benefit diminished. Those that were bred into generations of ignorance and were taught from day one how to game the system need to be the only ones to "bleed a bit". Sound familiar, Rahm?
Anyway, before I forget...
Fuck you, Rahm.
OH MAN!!! Election over? Here come the red light cameras again!!!! Re-installed at all the locations they were removed from!!!
YAWN.......what a sad election.
What a sad turn-out!
There was no "Mandate" on Rahm's re-election.
They say only a third of the people (33%) went out and voted.
At the margin that Rahm won, roughly 20% of the eligible voters voted Rahm in.
The VAST majority of voters - 66% didn't even show up to vote. About 14% had the guts to vote for change.
Summing up, don't whine about your contracts, your shifts, your neighborhoods, or your futures.
Through your fears (those who ran to vote for Rahm "the lesser of two evils") and your inactions (those who just stayed home), you got Rahm for another four years.
Don't complain.
Was shocked to see McCarthy on WGN last night.
He had the same tie on as the reporter. How does THAT happen?
Talk about how the media and the administration are tied in to oneanother.
The FOP can attempt to fuck us for payback all they want. We're not required to allow the FOP to agree to pension fuckovers, that's what attorneys are for.
If our union attempts to allow any fucking over of retirees current employees or agrees to pension cuts in any form, one of two things will occur:
1. The membership should move to decertify this organization
2. Retirees file suit against both the City and FOP for diminishing pension benefits.
FOP does NOT have final authority to allow a violation of the state constitution on pensions, period. They have no legal standing to act on behalf of active employees or retirees and allow pension cuts, FOP represents ACTIVE members on work related issues alone. Even with consent from ACTIVE members alone to fuck retirees and future retirees out of pension benefits, ANY retiree is within his rights to file suit against the City and FOP for pension cuts.
The end result is this:
The City and it's politicians have fucked police and fire out of pension contributions for decades which is the exact same thing as BORROWING WITHOUT THE INTENT TO REPAY our pension contributions.
Emanuel's lies of attempting to "work to find a solution" are nothing more than lies. He BOUGHT this election once again and the shit that dumps out of his mouth is just that, shit that will never come true. So expect at least one or two "failed" pension talks with the union then another prewritten permanent attempt to legalize the theft of our pensions in the legislature, guaranteed.
Only a fucking retard would at this time GRANT this shitheel the authority to legalize that theft of pensions.
When Emanuel attempts to fuck police and fire, then all the rest of the unions with pension slashing theft legislation, our job is to make permanent the SCOIL repeated rulings to protect our pensions at all costs.
When Emanuel tries to threaten bankruptcy through his buddies bill to make THAT legal, our job is to FORCE that hand and FORCE this city into bankruptcy.
In NO WAY are we to be the scapegoats to eat the shit of THEIR theft of OUR money for decades. Bankruptcy will cause the financial fucking to be applied to ALL creditors owed money, not just city employees.
Mark those words... Emanuel will publicize ONE failed pension meeting then have his shitheel buddies file more illegal legislation to make US ALONE pay for THEIR theft of our pensions.
FORCE this city to bankruptcy to apply the haircut to all those creditors, not just us. Don't allow him to fuck US alone when the entire credit system can reduce that burden on pensioners.
FOP collapses? Under the leadership of Dean? You know I still think he's better than Shields but not by much.
By the way Dean if you and your slate run again the cops who work in or have worked in 19 over say the last 15 years are going to remember the endorsement of Amy Crawford. She got trounced by the non endorsed Cappleman.
I'd guess her associating/taking support from cop haters like Marc Kaplan, the Shillers, copwatch, Couraj, etc didn't help her. It's not going to help you during election time because I promise to remind every voting FOP member who reads this site of who your team endorsed. Hope it was worth it.
http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2015/03/dean-whats-this.html
Chicago is going to implode. Thankfully, I already have plans to relocate to Arkansas before the collapse.
Time to take it in the ear!
reining in cost-of-living increases for retirees; ???????
As it is, they are not compounded.
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/04/07/1376297/-BREAKING-Reports-Of-Pre-Marked-Ballots-For-Rahm-In-Chicago
I hope he starts the rebuilding at CPD with a new superintendent.
How will he pay that huge pension bill as ordered by the courts? He wont, get out the Vaseline.
Just wanted to thank everyone that did not get out and vote. How did that song go? "some people want to abuse you, some people want to be abused". Yes that must be it.
This asshole got embarrassed by a nobody with the name chuy. The city is up for sale now as rahm needs to recoup that campaign cash
Look to see the retirement age raised to 65. If the rest of the private sector can retire at 65 why can't police? All they do is ride around in cars all day, and eat free doughnuts and hot dogs. Signed Rahm
Rahm said in his victory speech that not everyone will be happy with his decisions. Like who police retirees? In the words of Harold, "Any Police Officer who voted for Rahm should be Hanged" well sort of, but you get the idea.
Watch him welch out on the free medical at 55, even for those already retired. If you think it is a contract and can't be diminished, guess again. Just like they are going to diminish your pension. It's called legislation. Rahm says, nothing personal, it's just business. Just like Rauner.
“hit the re-set” button in a second term to rebuild strained and soured relationships that may have cost him politically.
This translates to bribes and even more patronage/favours.
Reining in cost of living increases for retiree's?
Let's ask some of our retiree's how much their cost of living increase is.
1) CPD and Fire are the only two that have a simplified cost-of-living increase instead of compounded increases.
2) My COLA after taxes is $131.00.
That's it. That's all I get annually.
(but I suppose it's more than those on Social Security)
And that's another thorn to be discussed at another time - Social Security.
Ask Richie Daley and others like him what his COLA is on top of his over inflated pensionS.
I hate these m-fers!
F the FOP
They have silent since getting elected.
What the hell?
Union full of crap....10 hour days ....here we go....please listen to p/o's !!!!!thats why we voted for u guys.
Big Changes coming,you heard it here first..
How long before Chicago collapses under a mountain of debt? It's not if, but when is the collapse coming. A year, two years at the most? It isn't going to be pretty. Can you say Detroit on steroids. The state won't be able to help or stop it. Don't look to Obama for help, he is moving to NYC. What will happen to the tens of thousands of poor that depend on the city?
"higher taxpayer contributions"
The Democratic solution to all problems.
FOP collapsing? Deano will have no power base then.
Mayor Emanuel is tough as nails. That is what we need because of the perilous clouds that lay ahead. Garcia promised the moon. At least Mayor Emanuel is smart with finances and knows how to deal with people. He may not be the warm and fuzzy, kinder, gentler type of guy. But he gets the job done.
Does Rahm have the political and budgetary skills needed to dig Chicago out of it's debt hole?
I feel sorry for my fellow brother and sister officers. By late June I am quitting the police department and moving the fuck out of Illinois all together. In every election cycle, in the first year in office the mayor and city council increase taxes and fees. Then in the second and third year they act upset. In the fourth year right before the next election, they throw in some goodies. They build a park, fix your alley or street, etc. Then the same politicians who made your life miserable get into office again to rinse, repeat and cycle it all over again.
The cost of living in this city for working people is too fucking high. That is why I am leaving. And it will only keep getting higher.
Fuck it - raise taxes.
If anyone thinks Raccoon Eyes is going to change they are dreaming. The Raccoon only knows one way to govern. His way. Gov. Rauner is currently attacking the Illinois Supreme Court as a bunch of useless corrupt has beens. Almost thought he was talking about the Chicago City Council. The Raccoon and Rauner will now go forward to even change the state constitution to rewrite the protections for our pensions. Don't put anything past these two.
Let's hope our pension is funded! Ok new rahm let's see how you take care of "your" Chicago police officers! Heard McCarthy on the news thanking the hard working Chicago coppers lets see if we can " put thanks in the bank!"
Hello Conscent Decree Chicago! Superintendent Gary McCarthy is Chicago's biggest nightmare!
Why go thru all of that pain and angst when there is $1.5 Billion sloshing around in the TIF funds??
Call the next case. Not a cop.
Lets see what CPD's great Superintendent has done that hasn't been done before.
Sorry,I just could not find anything.
Blank Stare!
Rahm reducing our pension. I hope all of you strokes that voted for him are happy. Unbelievable
Yea this outta be good?
Dean i hope you were right.
You wanted him you got him.
Now lets see how long Dr Dean can hold the top seat before he destroys his son future before it even starts.
Ah, what a drag to wake up to on a chilly, wet morning -- four more years of Rahm playing the same old tune on the same old shofar. (I saw a TV news story of the ram's horn being blown at an Emanuel campaign appearance -- on the South Side, they said.)
Business as usual for RahmRaunerLLC, unfortunately.
It was fun, though, to hear a discussion on Channel 11's Chicago Tonight about how Valerie Jarrett was instrumental in getting Rahm out of the White House. Must have been getting too crowded around the President's ear.
What an ugly situation that must have been...
Greetings and a dead fish to all.
Go to Suntimes website, they have a pretty cool interactive map that shows you which way each ward voted... What a surprise, Garfield Ridge, Beverly, and Mount Greenwood were complete landslides for Rahm.. We are our own worst enemies. Not saying Garcia was a great candidate but we couldn't even put a scare into Rahm.. All the hate that police seem to have for the guy and we handed him our wards like lapdogs. Sad.
To the white working class(I know some of you think you are the middle class because you own a home with a lot of debt, maybe a bachelor degree, or you have a union job that makes over 65000) wards 19, 41,45: if he won with closing schools and opening charter schools, he privatized many services, he did not hire police, increased the cost of insurance and decreased benefits,
What do you think he is going to do now,when he knows that he is not running for mayor again?
SCC get ready for a lot of whining on this blog.
By the way 19, 41,45 voted like the black south and west side wards.
Police and fire are the only retirees that do not get the 3% compounded annual increase in pension. For older retirees it was locked at 3% at time of retirement and now with the " reform" I believe it is 1.5% at age 60. Look at the alderman and see what they get as well as the tradesman. Daley was smart and he rolled his city pension into a Illinois state senators pension.
The political analyst on channel 9 said the first thing rahm will do is raise property taxes. The best is the election wasn't even over yet. All the coppers who voted for him will be the first ones on the blog bitching about him in a couple months. Good luck idiots ur gonna need it.
60% of eligible Chicago voters sat this one out. The incumbent could have been defeated if people bothered to show up.
With an additional six weeks of campaigning, Emanuel actually received fewer votes than he did in 2011.
Rahm may be damaged goods, but he is still the mayor. The oddest development is that in many aldermanic races, Emanuel's City Council allies were throttled.
Don't blame me, I voted for Chuy.
The Rahm-Rauner campaign begins.
In their efforts to reduce pensions and change the Illinois Constitution to force you to share your wealth...
Trib: " Rauner said he favors a merit-based judicial selection process, something that's been discussed in the state for more than 30 years but has failed to gain traction, and wants to set up a task force to study how judges are chosen in other states."
So now it's not fair to elect judges because they are collecting campaign cash and not voting for what the Govenor wants.
Get ready for our mandated pension payment to be stalled.
How high is my water bill going to go up now???
Just axin
Save the city money by privatizing jobs. Remember when we had city janitors? They never did any clean up work. They've been replaced. How about those useless building engineers? Or the motor maintenance too? Too many over priced jobs to change.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
reining in cost-of-living increases for retirees; ???????
As it is, they are not compounded.
4/08/2015 05:43:00 AM
They've already been reined in. Those born on or after 01 Jan 55 don't get them.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OH MAN!!! Election over? Here come the red light cameras again!!!! Re-installed at all the locations they were removed from!!!
4/08/2015 02:39:00 AM
Um, you do know they were never removed, just switched off, right?
"Rauner previously said he wanted to wait for the Supreme Court ruling on the 2013 law so that justices could provide guidance on whether pensions could be altered. Rauner has discussed a plan to grant current workers the benefits they are owed until July 1, then shift them all into a pension plan for newer employees with vastly reduced benefits." - Chicago Tribune
Old Retired Guy Here,Again !!!!!!!
The fact, that keeps bugging me, and I would think others, is this.
Why such a low voter turn out ?
Is it true, people really don't care ? Something to consider.
PS: Please Be Safe Out There !
What's the difference, they both have the same philosophy/agenda, Communist.
Cut Welfare, Not Pensions
Chicagoans and Illinoisans in general are like beaten down women who keep returning to their abusers. They deserve what they get because the repeatedly elect corrupt assholes who rob them blind. They have accepted corruption as normal and vote for the worst of the worst in the nation. When Daley and Rahm say being mayor is the best job n the world they are correct. You can steal and enrich your friends and family and the dumb fucks will keep voting you in while saying they know the devil they have is better than change.
Wall St. was not snowed by campaign commercials, they look at the numbers. Rahm has borrowed/blown 4x more than Mayor Daley. Hundreds of millions blown in high risk investments. This is why we have had multiple downgrades in the last few weeks. Rahm could barely keep his finger in the dike until election day. All of this gambling away millions, they will blame it on the pensions.
Use the tif funds for hiring more police and for police pensions, and for hiring more teachers, and paying into teachers pensions, if it comes to that. Tifs are supposed to be used for schools and for improving the city. Though the mayor used it for whatever he wants.
Don't really understand the logic of some. A guy who is supposedly against the police doesn't get police votes. A guy that said he was going to screw the retired guys and does (cost me close to 500 more per month for a total of just over 900 per month), and says if he wins he is going after pensions does get police votes. Bend over guys.
In more 46th Ward stupidity from the FOP:
Amy Crawford retweeted
Kevin Kilmer @kckilmer · 19h 19 hours ago
@amyfor46 Good luck tonight from FOP!
Thanks Kevi. I will remind FOP voters of that
The city is broke.
How to bring city pensions up to where they should be? End the TIF program and put that $1.5 Billion into city pensions. Open the city run casino with ALL profits going to fund city pensions. Painless and it solves the problem. Don't look for it to happen folks.
I want to see how fast the FOP collapses the next time someone here in Chicago is shot running away . Will an officer be charged ? Will the FOP stand behind the officer ?
The financial crisis is already here, multiple downgrades the last few weeks. Wall St. was not snowed by Rahm's commercials. Barely kept his finger in the dike until election day.
Any cop who voted Rahm, I feel sorry for your family. Enjoy your ten hour days and enjoy working longer for less and contributing more to your pension that the machine stole, and enjoy your new property taxes. Way to stick together.
Kozlar seemed to be a bigger loser than expected......
Anonymous Anonymous said...
And some coppers voted for Rahm??
4/08/2015 12:49:00 AM
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Any copper that voted for Rahm is a tool... I couldn't believe how many "Rahm" signs I saw on the lawns of coppers houses!
Anonymous said...
How will he pay that huge pension bill as ordered by the courts? He wont, get out the Vaseline.
4/08/2015 06:10:00 AM
Well, maybe.But if the city does not put that money into our fund the law says that state money that is given to the city each yearwill be withheld and deposited into the pension fund. Now here is the rub. The governor has severely reduced the state tax money that comes to the cities each year, Every money our pension fund is reduced by millions because we are now tapping on the principal to pay pensions. It was estimated that our fund will go belly up in 8 years without a new influx of cash.
Next Stop for Chicago: Emergency Financial Control Board
Www.bloombergbriefs.com/content/uploads/sites/2/2015/04/Next-Stop-for-Chicago-Emergency-Financial-Control-Board.pdf
"reining in cost-of-living increases for retirees"
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Yep, that 1.5% that the Police get,(for only 20 years) is a great get-rich-quick scheme.
But not the clouted ones with multiple pensions and their 3.5% compounding COLAs on each pension. That's ok.
Why is it that the politicians always go to the "Raise taxes" option first? Instead of looking for way to cut fat from the budget first?
Yes, I know. It is easier.
I am sure that there is PLENTY of fat that could be cut.
4/08/2015 12:11:00 AM
One easy way to cut fat is with the fire department hiring. Currently there are no requirements other than GED. The fire department trains you to be an EMT for three months before the three month fire academy. Even if you have your emt certification you still go through EMT school. IF the requirement to become a ff was an EMT license you can save about 10k in training for recruits and 3 more months of service.
Anonymous said...
The Mayoral Election is over..now let all officials get to work on the money crisis Daley left Chicago with.
4/08/2015 12:40:00 AM
You must mean ...now let all officials get to work stealing as much as they can for themselves and their friends.
Anonymous said...
Rahm trounced Chewie, and spanked his bottom, by at least 10% or more. Of course this will not solve Chicago's debt and financial problems. The only thing to cure that is for the City to go on a massive austerity program and huge cuts in spending. Do you think Rahm is man enough to do this?
The money's always been there-just not for the working class. Only for his buddies.
Anonymous said...
Time to take it in the ear!
4/08/2015 04:39:00 AM
Speak for yourself.
Anonymous said...
Let's hope our pension is funded! Ok new rahm let's see how you take care of "your" Chicago police officers! Heard McCarthy on the news thanking the hard working Chicago coppers lets see if we can " put thanks in the bank!"
4/08/2015 08:50:00 AM
My God,you are stupid.
Congrats to 41st Ward Napolitano.
We will be watching.
Amazing to see how quickly those who were obliged or coerced into posting Rahm signs in their yards pulled the signs down.
I mean entire blocks were deforested of Rahm signs.
Sneed has Rahm angling for an appointment to bail on Chicago if the Clintons return to DC.
"Mayor Emanuel is smart with finances and knows how to deal with people."
Where was there any solid proof of this during the past four years? The city's bond ratings have tanked while Rahm was shaking down Hollywood for campaign funds. Rahm had a piss poor first term, but he knows what is best? Seriously?
Be gone troll.
"The Mayoral Election is over. Now let all officials get to work on the money crisis Daley left Chicago with."
Daley was Rahm's ally.
Rahm raised money and endorsed Daley (just like he used to hang with Blagojevich and support Obama). Daley put Rahm in Congress.
So yeah, it is Daley's fault and Rahm cannot be blamed for pushing Daley and his policies.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Watch him welch out on the free medical at 55, even for those already retired. If you think it is a contract and can't be diminished, guess again. Just like they are going to diminish your pension. It's called legislation. Rahm says, nothing personal, it's just business. Just like Rauner.
4/08/2015 06:46:00 AM
They can't do that to the working class. We live in America and we are a nation of laws not of men. We are the greatest nation on the face of this earth.
@1240am
He won but he did not trounce Chuy, not even close. This guy has a ton of money, is an incumbent, and served in TWO white house administrations. Chuy declared at the last minute, most people never heaed of him and he still forced a runoff and got over 40 percent. Any political strategist with a brain is drooling waiting for the next election to try to pull what Chuy did. In the end Rahm had more money...that's it.
Either way, chuy or tiny dancer your fucked. Finally got my wife to say enough is enough. Were going to rent a place in Florida for few months. Then in Prescott, and Scottsdale a month in both places. Retired and still live in the City, because of grandchildren. Wherever we settle, they can come and visit and we well visit also. Fuck this city and the camera's. Color this ranger gone motherfuckers.
OH MAN!!! Election over? Here come the red light cameras again!!!! Re-installed at all the locations they were removed from!!!
4/08/2015 02:39:00 AM
Rahm never took those cameras down he just deactivated them at certain locations.
You can bet they're all activated already.
Rahm's got another 4 years to further fuck up this city... he's back to giving us the finger again.
Mayor Emanuel is tough as nails. That is what we need because of the perilous clouds that lay ahead. Garcia promised the moon. At least Mayor Emanuel is smart with finances and knows how to deal with people. He may not be the warm and fuzzy, kinder, gentler type of guy. But he gets the job done.
4/08/2015 08:04:00 AM
Rahm knows how to deal with people?
If you call bending people over and dry fucking them "dealing" with them.
You obviously have consumed way too much of Rahm's Kool aid.
And some coppers voted for Chuy??
Chuy would have bankupted our pension. Keep informed. Chuy years ago voted for legislation that allowed Daley to kick the can on pension payments.
I am amazed of the simplicity of coppers. Educate then hate.
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Rahm reducing our pension. I hope all of you strokes that voted for him are happy. Unbelievable
I feel sorry for my fellow brother and sister officers. By late June I am quitting the police department and moving the fuck out of Illinois all together. In every election cycle, in the first year in office the mayor and city council increase taxes and fees. Then in the second and third year they act upset. In the fourth year right before the next election, they throw in some goodies. They build a park, fix your alley or street, etc. Then the same politicians who made your life miserable get into office again to rinse, repeat and cycle it all over again.
The cost of living in this city for working people is too fucking high. That is why I am leaving. And it will only keep getting higher.
4/08/2015 08:15:00 AM
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Let me guess, you sold your house and you're moving to Florida with the wife. Once there, you're going to school to become a nurse. We were well aware of your plans the first ten times you told us.
U can not blame pension problems on Rahm...that has been a problem way before if anything he's addressing issues that should have been addressed decades ago. Now if anything Rahm is good for Chicago business, I could not go with someone like Chewy who has been a crook in Chicago politics for years!!! Not a big fan of either but I rather Have Rahm and his connections more then id rather have chewy and his clowns of anti police haters...
I do wish he goes with an insider on a Superintendent who is more connected to the department then outsiders...
Chicago debts were carried over into Rahm budget thanks to all the thieves of the past stop putting blame on someone who now has to take drastic measures to survive same thing goes for Rauner!
Coppers and city workers 25 plus years ago should have fought hard to secure future pensions now stop your bitching for sleeping in your squad cars, or trying to collect without contributing, and not giving 2 sh"!" About the future, these are the results of our current problems so a big thanks to you fools!
A must read article about the future of Chicago, its bond rating, and its pension debt. I don't know too much about the author who works for Bloomberg but he makes some very interesting arguments.
"Next Stop for Chicago: Emergency Financial Control Board"
http://newsletters.briefs.bloomberg.com/document/3fz176niqylzjr6oax/commentary
Off topic but... What's up with this no good dental insurance? It covers absolutely NOTHING! Anyone else having a problem with dental coverage? Yet, this city expects us to produce activity with shit coverage!
Let parents provide the funds to support the schools of their choice and feed them their homemade lunch, too!
Day 1 after the Mayoral Election:
there were gun "shots fired"! outside of the 26th Street Court house, where are the POLICE? are the POLICE taking Cover?, are the POLICE creating Distance and Movement? from the "shots fired"!
more to come, next Mayoral election is 4 years away!
31 SGTS
>>>Anonymous said...
And some coppers voted for Rahm??
4/08/2015 12:49:00 AM <<<
I know one copper who said he voted for Rahm because Chuy had no plan to deal with the pension crisis.
I told him he was an idiot, so you voted for the guy who's plan was to slash our pensions.
I will soon be applying for a mortage. Let's say that somewhere down line my pension is damaged by Rahm somehow and FOP dows nothing. I plan to sue the city and include FOP. I plan to get Deano on the stand and ask what he was offered by Rahm to lay down and not oppose his efforts to cut out benefits and pensions. What would be the answer under oath.
Talking about the TIF. It is supposedly 1.2 billion- the city has a liability of over 30 billion with the unfunded pensions. The city has been estimated to have run a 400 million dollar deficit annually since 2003. The city has an annual interest payment of 20 million on the property it bought for the olympics.
The supposed 1.2 billion would close the annual spending gap for a whole 3 years and then what?
If you are old enough to remember New York in the 1970s-- if the city averts bankruptcy -- the city will follow the path of New York.
Look to see the retirement age raised to 65. If the rest of the private sector can retire at 65 why can't police? All they do is ride around in cars all day, and eat free doughnuts and hot dogs. Signed Rahm
4/08/2015 06:28:00 AM
FOP is going to agree to raise the retirement age to 53 years and raise the pension contribution by 1.5 or 2%. Unfortunately we will get nothing in return, it will be our way of showing everyone that we have "skin" in the game.
Sergeant school starts Monday. Emails have been sent out
Rahm trounced Chewie, and spanked his bottom, by at least 10% or more. Of course this will not solve Chicago's debt and financial problems. The only thing to cure that is for the City to go on a massive austerity program and huge cuts in spending. Do you think Rahm is man enough to do this?
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Stop it. Austerity means firing the 6 deputy chiefs in each department of the city and the 6 assistant special whatevers in each of the same. You could save 100 million a year getting rid of the democratic pork in Chicago.
Chicago will get a Casino from rauner , Chicago real estate taxes will go up
political merit promotions in Chicago will continue
Taxpayers already kicked in - the Shitty just reallocated to things other than Pensions. No way the Taxpayers should be asked to fix this.
Employees kicked in for their portion - no way they should pay more out of their pockets.
Forget the COLA's - that's nothing but enabling a ponzi scheme on the rest of us. I don't get more $$$ on my investments when the CPI goes up, nor should anyone. If you want more money, set aside more, change your investments, get another job; don't expect the taxpayers to foot the bill for that - it's not their fault, and it's not fair to them.
Ultimately, everyone ought to get out what they put in, plus some REASONABLE interest (like 2-4% - none of this 18% crapola).
The City needs to kick in what it needs to, in order to make up the shortfall. If that means that some program has to be cut for 3 years until the pensions are funded, OH WELL, then you're going to have to cut that program, and ummm, parental units will have to deal with taking care of "dey own kidz" for a while huh? Just like they ought to have in the first damn place.
But programs, and make work projects like Maggie Daley Park are part of why this City hasn't made pension payments... And now the chickens are home to shit on everything - time to get the shovel. Blame the politicians - they're the ones at fault.
Who's up for a good ole tarrin' and featherin'?
He had the same tie on as the reporter. How does THAT happen? Two idiots watch the same home shopping network
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How long before Chicago collapses under a mountain of debt? It's not if, but when is the collapse coming. A year, two years at the most? It isn't going to be pretty. Can you say Detroit on steroids. The state won't be able to help or stop it. Don't look to Obama for help, he is moving to NYC. What will happen to the tens of thousands of poor that depend on the city?
4/08/2015 07:37:00 AM
It ain't just Chicago. The whole country is going to collapse. 18 trillion dollars in debt and borrowing a million per minute. The people we've voted in aren't doing anything to fix the problem and are just making it worse. You can't just keep raising the debt ceiling forever. The great depression is going to look like child's play compared to what's coming.
31 Sgts made....have 20 yrs on....and dont recognize not one on the list....
For Rahm to continue his political future he needs Chicago to be Successful. This is a good thing for us.
What we have to worry about is Patrick DALEY Thompson in the next election.
As log as Donahue and Dougherty never get another leadership roll we're safe. Remember Donahue was the only one to endorse the Rahmulan.
FOP collapsing? Deano will have no power base then
LMAO Fark da FlOP
The city has already renigged on the cost of living for all those retirees born after 1955. They promised 20 some years ago that they would give police and fire a simple, non-compounding 3.50% COLAS in five year increments because their pension liability on paper looked bad so if we would agree to every 5 years they would automatically grant the increase when people born after 1955 starting retiring. Guess what they lied. If another politician mention police and fire non-compounding Colas you can rest assured they are ignorant and don't have a clew as to the meager pensions they pay us and only those born before 1955 get the 3.5% Cola.
Off topic but... What's up with this no good dental insurance? It covers absolutely NOTHING! Anyone else having a problem with dental coverage? Yet, this city expects us to produce activity with shit coverage!
4/08/2015 03:03:00 PM
Try taking care of your teeth next time and you won't have to worry about pinching pennies for your grille!
But programs, and make work projects like Maggie Daley Park are part of why this City hasn't made pension payments... And now the chickens are home to shit on everything - time to get the shovel. Blame the politicians - they're the ones at fault.
Who's up for a good ole tarrin' and featherin'?
4/08/2015 05:13:00 PM
Could you PLEASE find another example of waste besides MaggiePark? The park sits on the Grant Park Garage. The garage was CAVING IN. The park HAD to be removed and rebuilt because the forty year old Grant Park Garage UNDER it had to be rebuilt and reinforced. People were being injured by falling debris in the garage. Cars were being damaged. Portions were cordoned off because they were unsafe. Thousands of people sat there and walked there and picknicked there for concerts and fireworks and were endangered. It would have collapsed. It HAD to be rebuilt. The only thing that did not have to happen was renaming it for that woman, but it had to be rebuilt. Bitch about the DePaul basketball venue, instead.
OT.. Congrats on all who were promoted today to sergeant! I heard a rumor that is frightening and apalling. Apparently there is word that this list will be scrapped at 100. The reason being is that the test was unfair and old material. Want to add (focus) more on profiling and police abuse, etc. supposed to be agreement made with top black leaders. If true this is downright unfair and criminal to all who studied and scored well.
We are so F'ed in this city!
Mayor Emanuel is tough as nails. That is what we need because of the perilous clouds that lay ahead. Garcia promised the moon. At least Mayor Emanuel is smart with finances and knows how to deal with people. He may not be the warm and fuzzy, kinder, gentler type of guy. But he gets the job done.
4/08/2015 08:04:00 AM
You see by the above post, Rahm does read the blog or pays someone to read it..
OFF TOPIC:
So were these 31 Sgts off the new list?
Were there any merit selections?
Too many things to chime in on but...
demorats have been stealing from our pensions since daley1 if not before then, rahm ain't gonna' fix it in any time soon if ever
those fleeing to Prescott, AZ and FLA...they got speed and red light cameras down there too
Unions got rahm in..399,Laborers and a myriad of others that are bigger and stronger than the FLOP
the tail is wagging the dog,Retirees are fucked, and what's in store for new kids on the job?
"You miss the people,not the job" is a falsehood.I loved the job, and hated the incompetent asshole bosses and dog ass coppers.
There are 12,000 people in the department. This isn't grade school.
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Sgts made....have 20 yrs on....and dont recognize not one on the list....
"...Yes, I know. It is easier.
I am sure that there is PLENTY of fat that could be cut.
4/08/2015 12:11:00 AM
One easy way to cut fat is with the fire department hiring. Currently there are no requirements other than GED. The fire department trains you to be an EMT for three months before the three month fire academy. Even if you have your emt certification you still go through EMT school. IF the requirement to become a ff was an EMT license you can save about 10k in training for recruits and 3 more months of service.
4/08/2015 02:02:00 PM"
OK, are you an E.M.T. and what level have you achieved?
Are you keeping up with current training standards? Are you even a Firefighter?
Dean Angelo turned on several members of his own team that worked months to get him elected . He made a deal with Bella and Tom Mcdonagh on March 07, 2014 and at that time made a decision to turn on the people who helped get him there .
What an absolute shame ! He made promises he didn't keep and is not to be trusted . He along with Greg , Tommy and Ray need to be cast out after the next election . Your word is your bond and if you don't have that you have NOTHING !
Retired guys taking a beating as usual.He wants to cut pensions and cola. That dead jagoff Rostenkowski got our social security cut. We always take the beating.The politicians cut us and raise there benefits. It fucking criminal what they do behind closed doors. These jags keeps saying transparency and never no one ever challenges them.Quit the its for the children crap and its time its for the workers who keep the children and the rest safe.
FOP is going to agree to raise the retirement age to 53 years and raise the pension contribution by 1.5 or 2%. Unfortunately we will get nothing in return, it will be our way of showing everyone that we have "skin" in the game.
4/08/2015 04:02:00 PM
Well they can agree all the friggin want. They don't have the final authority to dictate the violation of state constitution.
Every employee or retiree affected by whatever the FOP thinks it has the authority to pull on you can and will swiftly be shit upon by any labor lawyer worth two cents.
The FOP does NOT represent retirees no matter what the FOP thinks or attempts to claim. FOP authority extends ONLY to active members in good standing who pay their dues/fair share. Retirees have their own authority and will utilize legal mechanisms and representation already long in place to swiftly file suit against both the City and FOP if they attempt to fuck over any retiree in any manner, including COLA.
And for the record for the dumbfucks out there who just don't get the point, most of us working this job today and a good many retirees get a mere 1.5% adjustment per year AFTER reaching the age of 60, not as many dolts out there think that retirees are getting COLAS from day one. And cops don't live till 90 geniuses... maybe YOU'LL be that lucky, but cops AREN'T. If they make it to 72 they've beaten the odds by far. So on that point, SDASTFU.
And for those out there who think it's the employees who should fuck themselves for the theft of both employee contributions AND those same employee TAXPAYER'S share that pay TWICE into the pot that the whiners out there DON'T have to pay, we've earned the benefits we've legally obtained. Go cry and find someone else to elect other than more of the same tax thieves you've continued to put in office decade after decade.
And it's because the entire compliment of uneducated whiners knows nothing of what their elected politicians are doing to them other than what the politician's personal media outlets TELL you to think, that you need to learn the lesson that your elected politicians who're stealing 10 times more for the friends and family skim scam every year than what is owed on an annual basis to the pension system is what is causing the problem.
It's because Emanuel has no intention of turning off the spigot of free cash to his connected friends and donors that he's now faced with blaming employees for the alleged lack of cash in the city when in fact it is the theft of taxpayer cash into TIF scams and tax free employment zones that are bleeding this city dry of the mandatory funding for city services you're now being threatened with losing.
I understand though, it's easy for the uneducated to listen to a couple media trash soundbites and think they've figured it all out, because the truth of the theft of Chicago taxpayer money is far too complicated for them to actually understand. Those that do understand are either employees who understand the game or taxpayers that don't care.
Which of the above three are you?
Anonymous said...
Talking about the TIF. It is supposedly 1.2 billion- the city has a liability of over 30 billion with the unfunded pensions. The city has been estimated to have run a 400 million dollar deficit annually since 2003. The city has an annual interest payment of 20 million on the property it bought for the olympics.
The supposed 1.2 billion would close the annual spending gap for a whole 3 years and then what?
If you are old enough to remember New York in the 1970s-- if the city averts bankruptcy -- the city will follow the path of New York.
4/08/2015 03:57:00 PM
Hey mathematician, no law exists that forces the city to pay up it's obligation in full today, as your theory illustrates.
Go back to the drawing board, and figure out how much the city actually owes, and then SPREAD THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT OUT OVER THE NEXT 40 YEARS. Then go figure out the interest amount the city earns on the various investments that TIF money sits upon. Then have someone explain to you that TIF money is stolen EVERY YEAR in the rough amount of just under a BILLION DOLLARS, EVERY YEAR.
Then come back and try again to overdramatize the lies you're eating up like candy.
So sorry, your 1.2 billion dollar number doesn't and never did sit as the stagnant pot of gold you're trying to claim it is. It's a pot that gets filled year after year with ever increasing revenue that's stolen from the taxpayers and put into the pockets of the rich who can afford to pay for their own profiteering enterprises, but yet get free taxpayer cash to pay for their profiteering while you chumps just eat it up and say thanks.
City taxes and City government is NOT a piggy bank or free grant machine for the rich. It has a lawful obligation to provide city services to it's inhabitants, nothing more.
If you actually are stupid enough to believe that TIF is a GOOD thing for the taxpayers, you're proof that the masses are stupid enough to believe whatever they're told by the government.
The rich found a way years ago to keep stealing taxpayer dollars... and the TIF scam was the best thing they could ever hope for in free government subsidy at YOUR expense. California banned TIFS because they wised the fuck up and found they were just lies and an orchestrated theft of taxpayer dollars to give away to the rich political donors.
But hey, go read the Sun Times some more and eat the bullshit Emanuel feeds you. It's easier to understand.
They waited till after rahms election now they are cutting chIcago credit rating to junk!
http://newsletters.briefs.bloomberg.com/document/3fz176niqylzjr6oax/front
The 1% did it again to us!
COMMENTARY
Next Stop for Chicago: Emergency Financial Control Board
BY JOE MYSAK
Now that Rahm Emanuel has been reelected mayor of Chicago and that distraction is out of the way, we can all start thinking about the future of the city.
I'm not a betting man. If I were, I'd bet that Chicago is going to be run by an Emergency Financial Control Board, or something like it, within two years, the same as New York City back in 1975 (and until 1986).
The city is now rated Baa2 by Moody's, one step from the basement of investment grade. In cutting the rating ("with a negative outlook'') in February, Moody's said, "The negative outlook reflects our expectation that the city's credit quality could weaken as unfunded pension liabilities grow and exert increased pressure on the city's operating budget.'' Moody's expects "substantial growth in unfunded pension liabilities even if the city's recent pension reforms survive an ongoing legal challenge.''
So a cut to junk may well be in the cards, and with it diminished and eventually lack of access to capital. Chicago has already creatively used, and some would say abused, the municipal market to subsidize city operations, as Kristi Culpepper, the Kentucky official who for many years wrote as "Bond Girl,'' demonstrated in this recent piece, required reading, published on Tumblr.
When the banks no longer want to lend to Chicago is presumably when the state of Illinois would come in, offering cash, loan guarantees, intercession with the federal government and whatever else the city needs in exchange for external management via an Emergency Financial Control Board.
Such boards do what politicians and labor unions won't, which is to get the spending and revenue sides of things aligned. It doesn't look to me like Chicago is going to be able to do that, and remember, we're talking about what is in effect a one-party city.
As Roger Dunstan of the California Research Bureau wrote in a 1995 overview of New York City's financial crisis, "The Board had the power to
review and reject the city's financial plan,
operating and capital budgets, contracts negotiated with the public employees unions, and all municipal borrowing.''
Chicago's pols and unions will of course fight this to the figurative death, as New York City's unions and Mayor Abe Beame did, right to bankruptcy's doorstep. Yet the conclusion will probably be the same. The municipal market better hope I'm right, as the other options are worse for bondholders.
Why is that? I'm presuming that the state of Illinois can pull itself together in time to help Chicago, and that the state and its fractious lawmakers can summon the foresight and maturity to bail out the nation's third-largest city. This sounds almost quaint, I know.
Unlike New York State in 1975, Illinois is facing budget deficits and a $111 billion pension gap of its own. New York was in
relatively more robust health.
Plus these are different times. Not paying bondholders was unthinkable in 1975. Global leaders called President Gerald Ford and talked about the implications of one of the biggest cities in the world going bust. Which is why the federal government, despite the memorable headline "Ford to City: Drop Dead," got intimately involved in New York City's finances for a few years.
Four decades on, the situation is a lot different. Political conservatives, once the staunchest defenders of the capital markets, now advocate bankruptcy for cities and even state governments, the better (apparently) to punish those evil public sector labor unions. As we saw in Detroit, union members and pensioners sometimes trump bondholders.
Two years. That's how long I give the city of Chicago. Good luck, Rahm.
All 31 spots on Sgt list is by test score. No merit.
7:45pm
you actually believe that the city will scrap the test after 100?
here's another rumor for you, the city will promote in reverse order of the test, will candidates 4576-4633 please report to the academy and please don't lick the windows upon arrival
The FOP does NOT represent retirees no matter what the FOP thinks or attempts to claim. FOP authority extends ONLY to active members in good standing who pay their dues/fair share. Retirees have their own authority and will utilize legal mechanisms and representation already long in place to swiftly file suit against both the City and FOP if they attempt to fuck over any retiree in any manner, including COLA.
PPUUHHLLEEEEZZEE! Give it a rest. Where was your swift lawsuit when former FLOP genral counsel (and Teeny Deany's disability lawyer) Pleines tried to lower every single retiree's benefits wwith the foolish Sergeants deal that Shields (yes he did a couple of good things) exposed for what it was? Pleines tried to help the City reduce everyone's pension, retirees included. His reward? Back on the little man's FLOP payroll.
Anonymous said...
Rahm said in his victory speech that not everyone will be happy with his decisions. Like who police retirees? In the words of Harold, "Any Police Officer who voted for Rahm should be Hanged" well sort of, but you get the idea.
4/08/2015 06:42:00 AM
The correct source for the infamous quote is Judge Eugene "Lynchim" Pincham. Pincham stated that "any Black who lives south of Madison St. that vote for Harold should be hung." This occurred during the general election campaign in 1987.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dean Angelo turned on several members of his own team that worked months to get him elected . He made a deal with Bella and Tom Mcdonagh on March 07, 2014 and at that time made a decision to turn on the people who helped get him there .
What an absolute shame ! He made promises he didn't keep and is not to be trusted . He along with Greg , Tommy and Ray need to be cast out after the next election . Your word is your bond and if you don't have that you have NOTHING !
4/08/2015 08:44:00 PM
Why wait until after the next election? They threw Shields out before the election. And now they pretend that Donahue never existed. Look at the FOP web site, the only past presidents on the front page all smiling and chummy are Dineen, Nolan and Angelo. 9 years of Donahue and almost 3 years of Shields are ignored.
Here is something quoted from the website of
The United States Department of Labor, Office of the Inspector General.
"...Labor racketeering relates to the infiltration, exploitation, and/or control of a union, employee benefit plan, employer entity, or workforce. It is carried out through illegal, violent, or fraudulent means for profit or personal benefit. "
It would seem to many of us the present and past leadership of the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge Number 7 has in the past not acted in the best interests of the members who are employees of the Chicago Police Department.
The reason for this may be gross incompetence. But if the leadership, present or past ever acted in any way not in the best interests of the members at the order of employer for some personal gain (cash, jobs, promotions scholarships) now or in the future then that is the very definition of labor racketeering.
It would not take a vote of the membership from the floor of a meeting to get such an investigation started. It would take one or more persons with hard information going to he Feds to blow the whistle.
Maybe this should be part of Martin Preib’s next book.
Try taking care of your teeth next time and you won't have to worry about pinching pennies for your grille!
Spoken like a true FOP jagoff. Fuck you FOP.
There are 12,000 people in the department. This isn't grade school.
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Sgts made....have 20 yrs on....and dont recognize not one on the list....
4/08/2015 08:02:00 PM
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I guess guys you know didn't do any good on the test. Sorry mr popularity, I guess this proves you don't know everyone in the cpd
We are going to be broke (no pensions) and prisoners in our own home when we retire. Superitendent Mc Carthy and his entire crew of Chief Tracy, Chief Roussell (I actually use to respect you) and Sgt. Sedevick, please tell me this horrible nightmare is over and the Mayor got a little smarter during this election process and sees where the baggage lays! Is it goodbye and good riddance! Please tell me it is so!
I hope you are proud of yourself and how you screwed the police, citizens and the department as a whole, the promotional process, morale, destroyed our Command structure, caused 39% of senior exempts who held a wealth of knowledge (but becuase of their knowledge, you saw them as a threat) to run for the hills (all of those years of experience lost). Two more are retiring May 15th. What more can you idiots do? At list that sorry excuse of a police command member Gus left before you all got booted. Follow his lead! Good riddance!
This election was STOLEN. How does Rahm cruise but so many of the opposition aldermen won?
ALL the votes including the paper ones get put through the Sequoa electronic voting machine. Then "transmitted" to the CBOE.
Talking about the TIF. It is supposedly 1.2 billion- the city has a liability of over 30 billion with the unfunded pensions. The city has been estimated to have run a 400 million dollar deficit annually since 2003. The city has an annual interest payment of 20 million on the property it bought for the olympics.
The supposed 1.2 billion would close the annual spending gap for a whole 3 years and then what?
If you are old enough to remember New York in the 1970s-- if the city averts bankruptcy -- the city will follow the path of New York.
4/08/2015 03:57:00 PM
You fail to address the fact that much of what puts us in the red is debt service, i.e. interest payments. Get rid of the debt, then no interest.
Sell the albatross land or build a casino complex on it. End the mortgage interest on the land.
Then do that in ten other places and start to bring us back to zero, so we can rebuild our financial standing. Wow, I have a financial plan for the city.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic but... What's up with this no good dental insurance? It covers absolutely NOTHING! Anyone else having a problem with dental coverage? Yet, this city expects us to produce activity with shit coverage!
4/08/2015 03:03:00 PM
Try taking care of your teeth next time and you won't have to worry about pinching pennies for your grille!
4/08/2015 07:12:00 PM
Yeah, 3:03pm, make sure you don't crack a tooth, or need a root canal, or get an abscess, or need an old mercury laced filling removed. And do it without getting a professional dental cleaning, too. Plan ahead next time around.
7:12pm, you sound like a genuinely kind and understanding fella, so considerate and always looking out for someone in need.
Oh man, you just dont give up.
Two things i gather from you: 1) you were around 430-500 on the previous sgt list. 2) you did awful on this last sgt exam.
Anonymous said...
OT.. Congrats on all who were promoted today to sergeant! I heard a rumor that is frightening and apalling. Apparently there is word that this list will be scrapped at 100. The reason being is that the test was unfair and old material. Want to add (focus) more on profiling and police abuse, etc. supposed to be agreement made with top black leaders. If true this is downright unfair and criminal to all who studied and scored well.
4/08/2015 07:45:00 PM
The democrates fucked us out of social security but not themselves. Today Our Senator Dick Durbin collected 25,000 a year in social security and his wife collects 25,000 a year in social security while they are collecting their pay checks of a U.S. senator and a congressional lobbiest about 258,000!a year together.
Jessie Jackson Jr. A convicted felon still collects his congressional pension of 86,000 a year and social security payment too.
Fuck you democrates
Fuck you Rahm
Any copper that voted for Rahm or any other democrate is a total fool.
Their families are eating steak and yours are eating cat food.
Cops are uneducated and stupid. HA, HA
Anyone to do any work is a total goof.
Get jammed fool and your family can eat shit
Well they can agree all the friggin want. They don't have the final authority to dictate the violation of state constitution.
Every employee or retiree affected by whatever the FOP thinks it has the authority to pull on you can and will swiftly be shit upon by any labor lawyer worth two cents.
The FOP does NOT represent retirees no matter what the FOP thinks or attempts to claim. FOP authority extends ONLY to active members in good standing who pay their dues/fair share. Retirees have their own authority and will utilize legal mechanisms and representation already long in place to swiftly file suit against both the City and FOP if they attempt to fuck over any retiree in any manner, including COLA.
And for the record for the dumbfucks out there who just don't get the point, most of us working this job today and a good many retirees get a mere 1.5% adjustment per year AFTER reaching the age of 60, not as many dolts out there think that retirees are getting COLAS from day one. And cops don't live till 90 geniuses... maybe YOU'LL be that lucky, but cops AREN'T. If they make it to 72 they've beaten the odds by far. So on that point, SDASTFU.
And for those out there who think it's the employees who should fuck themselves for the theft of both employee contributions AND those same employee TAXPAYER'S share that pay TWICE into the pot that the whiners out there DON'T have to pay, we've earned the benefits we've legally obtained. Go cry and find someone else to elect other than more of the same tax thieves you've continued to put in office decade after decade.
And it's because the entire compliment of uneducated whiners knows nothing of what their elected politicians are doing to them other than what the politician's personal media outlets TELL you to think, that you need to learn the lesson that your elected politicians who're stealing 10 times more for the friends and family skim scam every year than what is owed on an annual basis to the pension system is what is causing the problem.
It's because Emanuel has no intention of turning off the spigot of free cash to his connected friends and donors that he's now faced with blaming employees for the alleged lack of cash in the city when in fact it is the theft of taxpayer cash into TIF scams and tax free employment zones that are bleeding this city dry of the mandatory funding for city services you're now being threatened with losing.
I understand though, it's easy for the uneducated to listen to a couple media trash soundbites and think they've figured it all out, because the truth of the theft of Chicago taxpayer money is far too complicated for them to actually understand. Those that do understand are either employees who understand the game or taxpayers that don't care.
Which of the above three are you?
4/08/2015 09:29:00 PM
I usually ignore overly long posts because they're generally put up by people who love nothing more than the 'sound' of their own verbiage.
This post, however, should be required reading for everyone who comes to this site.
There's been too little logic and too little factual information presented on this topic. You, sir or ma'am, have provided a bit of both for us. Thank you.
It's that old American political story. In the end the voters elect the best man.
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This is a joke, right?
But programs, and make work projects like Maggie Daley Park are part of why this City hasn't made pension payments... And now the chickens are home to shit on everything - time to get the shovel. Blame the politicians - they're the ones at fault.
Who's up for a good ole tarrin' and featherin'?
4/08/2015 05:13:00 PM
Could you PLEASE find another example of waste besides MaggiePark? The park sits on the Grant Park Garage. The garage was CAVING IN. The park HAD to be removed and rebuilt because the forty year old Grant Park Garage UNDER it had to be rebuilt and reinforced. People were being injured by falling debris in the garage. Cars were being damaged. Portions were cordoned off because they were unsafe. Thousands of people sat there and walked there and picknicked there for concerts and fireworks and were endangered. It would have collapsed. It HAD to be rebuilt. The only thing that did not have to happen was renaming it for that woman, but it had to be rebuilt. Bitch about the DePaul basketball venue, instead.
4/08/2015 07:19:00 PM
Doesn't LAZ parking company get the revenue for that garage? Why wouldn't they pay to fix it? We have to pay them to close our streets for parades and repair their garages?
The voters have now given King Rahm him his mandate, treat everyone like dirt and we will ask for more. He will run even more rampant with his pay to play scams as the city slide continues. Same as Richie, a silver spoon punk with little man complex. The voters had a rare chance to become governed instead of ruled, and the few members of the voter base who bothered to vote said "thank you I'll have another".
We all know Garcia was not the answer but you vote him in as a one term ineffective stall and vote in the next thief and then try again and maybe at some point you get an honest leader (does one exist?) who cares about the people.
This city is a complete disaster of corruption. The majority of the taxpayers are completely uninformed and seem to enjoy watching their money and future pissed away by one corrupt asshole after another. Sickening!
Could you PLEASE find another example of waste besides MaggiePark? The park sits on the Grant Park Garage. The garage was CAVING IN. The park HAD to be removed and rebuilt because the forty year old Grant Park Garage UNDER it had to be rebuilt and reinforced. People were being injured by falling debris in the garage. Cars were being damaged. Portions were cordoned off because they were unsafe. Thousands of people sat there and walked there and picknicked there for concerts and fireworks and were endangered. It would have collapsed. It HAD to be rebuilt. The only thing that did not have to happen was renaming it for that woman, but it had to be rebuilt. Bitch about the DePaul basketball venue, instead.
4/08/2015 07:19:00 PM
It was shoddy goddamn construction, not natural wear and tear.
Mayor Emanuel is tough as nails. That is what we need because of the perilous clouds that lay ahead. Garcia promised the moon. At least Mayor Emanuel is smart with finances and knows how to deal with people. He may not be the warm and fuzzy, kinder, gentler type of guy. But he gets the job done.
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Name one thing he did in 4 years to benefit anyone other than those in the circle. Easily one of the most ignorant post I have ever read on this blog.
Now we can invest more in the 'children.' So great the Daley invested in the 'children' throughout the 90s/early 2000s. This city is so much greater today (psyche!).
Anonymous said...
U can not blame pension problems on Rahm...that has been a problem way before if anything he's addressing issues that should have been addressed decades ago. Now if anything Rahm is good for Chicago business, I could not go with someone like Chewy who has been a crook in Chicago politics for years!!! Not a big fan of either but I rather Have Rahm and his connections more then id rather have chewy and his clowns of anti police haters...
4/08/2015 02:48:00 PM
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You speak of Rahm Emmanuel, correct? The same Rahm who is trying to duck the state law mandated city payment of $600m toward pensions?
Well who the fuck do we blame?
Rahm can't touch the 3% COLA for guy born before 1955, unless we agree to it.
election results blow, i need a drink and perhaps as I suspect some lube.
Look to see the retirement age raised to 65. If the rest of the private sector can retire at 65 why can't police? All they do is ride around in cars all day, and eat free doughnuts and hot dogs. Signed Rahm
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Ha Ha . . Right, er, a, my chest hurts now.. ohh ohh
Hey 7:59pm...we bitch about Maggot Daley Park because it was NEVER touted as a garage roof fixing project and still hasnt. Remember, THE CITY MORTGAGED THOSE DOWNTOWN PARKING GARAGES SO THE COMPANIES WHO MANAGE THEM NOW COLLECT ALL THE FEES! SO THE PROBLEM LIES WHERE WE TAXPAXERS ARE FIXING A ROOF FOR THE COMPANY WHO RUN IT!! The whole lets build a park idea was an excuse to fix the garage for the private company. If you dont think thats a problem go move somewhere else!
PPUUHHLLEEEEZZEE! Give it a rest. Where was your swift lawsuit when former FLOP genral counsel (and Teeny Deany's disability lawyer) Pleines tried to lower every single retiree's benefits wwith the foolish Sergeants deal that Shields (yes he did a couple of good things) exposed for what it was? Pleines tried to help the City reduce everyone's pension, retirees included. His reward? Back on the little man's FLOP payroll.
4/08/2015 10:11:00 PM
You can't file a lawsuit, swift or otherwise, until someone's been wronged. Since the attempt was unsuccessful and no one was wronged or damaged, no lawsuit was required.
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Hey 7:59pm...we bitch about Maggot Daley Park because it was NEVER touted as a garage roof fixing project and still hasnt. Remember, THE CITY MORTGAGED THOSE DOWNTOWN PARKING GARAGES SO THE COMPANIES WHO MANAGE THEM NOW COLLECT ALL THE FEES! SO THE PROBLEM LIES WHERE WE TAXPAXERS ARE FIXING A ROOF FOR THE COMPANY WHO RUN IT!! The whole lets build a park idea was an excuse to fix the garage for the private company. If you dont think thats a problem go move somewhere else!
4/09/2015 09:02:00 AM
No, you bitch about MD Park because you don't know any better.
ps. If you own a house and you rent it out, your mortgage company will require you to maintain the roof and not allow the house to collapse. Your renters aren't required to repair it.
I posted about the 400 million structural deficit earlier on this blog. Someone mentioned to pay off the debt and then the interest due will be eliminated. The problem is not quite that simple.
On the truenews blog there is an article I sent about the structural deficit problems. It is well written and thoughtout. If you cannot find it- try googling Kristi Culpepper-- she did an outstanding job of explaining the huge whole the city is in.
old retired guy
And for the record for the dumbfucks out there who just don't get the point, most of us working this job today and a good many retirees get a mere 1.5% adjustment per year AFTER reaching the age of 60, not as many dolts out there think that retirees are getting COLAS from day one.
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HEY goof almost all of the retirees get the 3%. And almost all of the future retirees will get 1-1/2%. The fuck up lies right at the feet of Mark Donahue. Instead of working full time on this bill he was working on the state lodges agenda. If he had worked half as hard on the cola bill that he worked on the portability bill for Ted Street everyone would have the cola born before 1960. But Madigan wanted that on the back burner. If you were paying attention the lone supporter for Rahm was Mark Donahue.
The major supporter in the lawsuits vs. the city in reference to retiree health care is fop.
And Idea for all you posters who were losers in past or present elections stop posting anonymously. Start posting position papers with your name on them.
Anonymous said...
Mayor Emanuel is tough as nails. That is what we need because of the perilous clouds that lay ahead. Garcia promised the moon. At least Mayor Emanuel is smart with finances and knows how to deal with people. He may not be the warm and fuzzy, kinder, gentler type of guy. But he gets the job done.
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Name one thing he did in 4 years to benefit anyone other than those in the circle. Easily one of the most ignorant post I have ever read on this blog.
4/09/2015 01:54:00 AM
Agree 100%, what an idiot...perilous clouds indeed.
As far as the retiree health care lawsuit goes, Dean Angelo stepped up big time and made a major contribution to the cause. Deans' father is a retired PO, and Dean himself will be retired in a few years. Unlike the shitty wide goons, Dean has the best interests of the retirees at heart.
11:55am...Hey asshat, if you actually took the time to READ the basic terms of the garage lease deal before running off at the mouth, you'd KNOW the companies who leased them ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL MAINTENENCE AND REPAIR OF THE GARAGES...NOT THE CITY! So once again, thats why we bitch about the park, more taxpayer money used for corporate handouts disguised as public projects while our pensions are in jeopardy.
Now before you make more of a goof out of yourself go get your shine box and spit shine Rahms shoes!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
11:55am...Hey asshat, if you actually took the time to READ the basic terms of the garage lease deal before running off at the mouth, you'd KNOW the companies who leased them ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL MAINTENENCE AND REPAIR OF THE GARAGES...NOT THE CITY! So once again, thats why we bitch about the park, more taxpayer money used for corporate handouts disguised as public projects while our pensions are in jeopardy.
Now before you make more of a goof out of yourself go get your shine box and spit shine Rahms shoes!
4/09/2015 09:18:00 PM
You sound like a raving lunatic.
Anonymous said...
Police and fire are the only retirees that do not get the 3% compounded annual increase in pension. For older retirees it was locked at 3% at time of retirement and now with the " reform" I believe it is 1.5% at age 60. Look at the alderman and see what they get as well as the tradesman. Daley was smart and he rolled his city pension into a Illinois state senators pension.
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Re: Daley and State Senatores...Perhaps you shoulda joined the ISP and get free life insurance for yourself and family-for the rest of your life!
As far as the retiree health care lawsuit goes, Dean Angelo stepped up big time and made a major contribution to the cause. Deans' father is a retired PO, and Dean himself will be retired in a few years. Unlike the shitty wide goons, Dean has the best interests of the retirees at heart.
4/09/2015 08:38:00 PM
Gee, I wonder why a guy with a retired PO father, and a near future retiree status for himself, would go to bat for retirees. It couldn't possibly be for selfish reasons, could it?
Selfish reasons ? How about he did the right thing, because it was the right thing to do.
I saw that report too. They were both wearing the same "tacky" tie. One would think his new bride would dress him better.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
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