Thursday, September 24, 2015

An Idea Worth Exploring

  • Chicagoans requesting the removal of gang graffiti or complaining about rats in their alleys would have their calls fielded by a private company rather than the city-run 311 operation under a proposal Mayor Rahm Emanuel floated Tuesday.

    His idea of privatizing the 311 call center came in his 2016 budget address, saying it would save the city "about a million dollars a year" to replace union workers with outside contractors. It was one of the few pieces of actual news Tuesday, after the mayor's administration had spent the past week dribbling out many of their financial proposals for the coming year.

    The mayor later said bringing in an outside operator would save the city the cost of making much-needed upgrades to the technology at the non-emergency information center, which would cost considerably more than the operations savings.
There are plenty of able-bodied officers at 3-1-1 who would be better utilized on the streets. There is a command structure in place that would be better serving in the Districts. Civilian operators, even outsourced ones could easily take the standard non-emergency calls about vacant lots, open buildings, burnt out streetlights, potholes, city service requests, etc.....essentially, the entire CAPS system.

This in turn might free up dozens of bodies hiding at HQ in the CAPS implementation office or whatever they're calling it now, headed by one of the eighteen Deputy Chiefs that do nothing except suck up money and manpower.

The Department was looking at automating much of this in the past, but how many votes can a robot deliver? The only questions become (A) what to do with POW's serving there along with the short-and-long-term medical people who aren't street ready, but capable of performing sworn duty functions, and (B) which functions must be performed by a sworn officer?

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37 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Slipperiest of slopes. Partial "privatization" = road to total "outsourcing" to VaneckoJarrettLLC.

"Civilian operators, even outsourced ones could easily take the standard non-emergency calls about vacant lots, open buildings, burnt out streetlights, potholes, city service requests, etc.....essentially, the entire CAPS system."

This was just supposed to be the city working from day-to-day, filling holes and stuff CAPS was something entirely different, about "police/community relations."

I call..exhaustion.

9/24/2015 12:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And when it's outsourced, or privatized, or handed off, maybe this once we could make sure it isn't with a fifty-year long, ever-increasing payment, no-bid, no-repercussions, no-oversight contract.

9/24/2015 12:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Save a million dollars a year" -- to instantly p__s away sawing useless, dangerous grooves in alleys or something.

No hope. No future.

..except for the RahmRaunerLLC personal portfolios. Those Golden Parachutes are professionally re-packed ever night. Walked in dripping money, going to leave even richer.

You bet your a__, "mindlesss resentment." Doesn't even scratch the surface.

9/24/2015 01:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope when I call 311 I can understand the call taker over there in Pakistan.

9/24/2015 01:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Raising Chicago's debt limit doesn't raise the debt. We would just be paying the bills we already made.

That's what Obama said or something close to it.

Rahm should just raise the debt limit to fund the pensions.

9/24/2015 02:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need a bridge to the 20th Century.

Stupid Stuff Joe Biden Would Say Volume 1

9/24/2015 03:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This be Rajiv? How may I helps you?

9/24/2015 03:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you ever call the Whitehouse switchboard and ask them if they have Prince Albert in the Can? That one always cracks me up!

Stupid Stuff Joe Biden Would Say Volume 1

9/24/2015 03:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about just privatizing garbage pick up? Lay off all those Streets and San workers. Lots of money to save there.

9/24/2015 05:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like they are planning to eventually liquidate out call back... Nice Rahman... Privatelize, liqidate, and hopefully it will lead to cutting down big government budgets--- I just love sarcasm... Anyone got a good clinical psycologist?

9/24/2015 05:37:00 AM  
Blogger rosco said...

How about using (as part of their sentence) gangbangers to clean up graffiti and garbage? Like SWAP?

9/24/2015 05:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More Pinstripe patronage and campaign contributions.

9/24/2015 06:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are completely off base and missing the point of what they are actually talking about, the privatization of 311 has nothing to do with the alternate response section, they are referring to the city services side of 311 which is entirely staffed by civilians. Those are the individuals that answer the phones when someone needs graffiti removed or a light pole is out. The officers handle all calls regarding police matters and do reports; two completely separate entities. They are talking of outsourcing the civilian side of 311, completely different Han the callback side or alternate response. The removal of some full duty alternate response officers to the street has been mentioned while talking about putting 319 more officers on the street but again 311 and alternate response are two completely different arenas.

9/24/2015 07:02:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

I had to call one of those outsourced phone operators one time. His name was Haju from Bombay. When I told him the location was right next to the new deli, he went nuts on me and hung up.

9/24/2015 07:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

311 has a civilian side and a police side. Civilians do the CAPS, potholes, streetlights, etc. P.O.'s do only reports.

9/24/2015 07:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And accident reports at district desk?

How about CDTP reports and theft? Privatize all desk personal and have a SGT. sign off on reports. Radio room? Lock up? police mail (use armed security)? CAPS office? Review officer? CMO office? HQ security?

Think a little farther then what the media presents to you RAHM is looking to jam you 10 year from now.

9/24/2015 07:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogger rosco said...
How about using (as part of their sentence) gangbangers to clean up graffiti and garbage? Like SWAP?

9/24/2015 05:56:00 AM




Make them work for $8 an hour.

9/24/2015 07:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Private call centers in India can handle 3-1-1 calls; they perform customer service for hundreds of American companies. English is the primary language taught in Indian schools.

9/24/2015 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This will create jobs for India. "G"

9/24/2015 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't confuse 311 with callback. 311 is the civilian branch of OEMC for non emergency calls. If the police are needed they send the call to callback. Yes they are on the same floor but different units.

9/24/2015 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"This be Rajiv? How may I helps you?"

9/24/2015 03:33:00 AM

Read a story about how they train people in those phone boiler rooms over there -- they give them a local-small-talk script that's supposed to make you think they're American. "Hi, this is Julie, I'm from Wheaton, go Cubs!" They can never get rid of that accent, though. Nor could they get anything done for you.

Understand that a lot of computer companies, etc. moved their tech support/customer service back here because they got so many complaints.

Not that it's much better over here today; I routinely have to insist that the babbling girl on the other end slow down. "You're talking so fast that I can't understand a word you're saying." So they open their loose-leaf "Procedures" binder to the red index tab, "Difficult Customer." You get a bad one -- demanding to be "respected" or something -- just hang up and call back in a few, you'll get someone different who might be a little better. Especially in "healthcare," it is their job to field calls from ill, confused, exhausted people who are not always going to be at the top of their game. The customers are not there to please them; it's kind of the other way around.

Want to hear ignorance? Entire first level of customer service at AT&T. Don't know the difference between DSL and wireless, don't know their own policies, etc. Ask them for their employee number, jot it down, ask for a supervisor, and work your way up the chain. There are some really good, competent people a couple of levels up who can fix something for you in half a minute, but you have to work a little to get to them.

So the city will horribly, inevitably move in this direction too. Tacitly admit that a lot of its people are incompetent, but will retain them while paying out even more to private-sector incompetents. Savings, hell. Another no-bidder to some hooked-up "minority-owned" outfit. I can see the "mismanagement and misappropriation" scandal already. That is the way things are done here.

Yeah, Rajnit Telecom Services in Bangalore is definitely the way to go...

9/24/2015 10:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Come on, SCC....

They won't save shit if they privatize any of this stuff. They'll shovel $$$ to favored contractors, period.

9/24/2015 11:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Rosco....

How about we keep gangbangers away from my fucking alley as much as possible?

9/24/2015 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about making these shitheads collecting everything for free in the city pick up the garbage and clean the streets

9/24/2015 11:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any job that is lost that was done by a PO is gone forever. That means one less officer to hire. Just something to think about.

9/24/2015 11:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gee, ever notice its usually minority neighborhoods with the problems with rats. Perhaps they should have special classes on sanitation at their local schools and libraries?

9/24/2015 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sure, privatize everything, especially streets and sanitation

that mattress you want to get rid of? tie it to the top of your car and drive it to the dump yourself

careful what you wish for

9/24/2015 12:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think there is some confusion here. 311 and Alternate Response Section are 2 separate entities. 311 operators are all civilians and they take city service requests. Alternate Response Section is staffed with sworn officers who take police reports. Privatizing 311 will not free up any officers or command staff as there are no officers or command staff assigned there. People get 311 and ARS confused because they share the same building. I think what the mayor wants to do is take jobs away from unionized civilian workers. Now privatizing ARS might be a problem unless you want civilians with no police experience determining how to properly classify and document criminal acts. ARS does take reports for criminal sexual assault, hate crimes and robberies. I think sworn officers are still needed there.

9/24/2015 12:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
How about just privatizing garbage pick up? Lay off all those Streets and San workers. Lots of money to save there.

9/24/2015 05:30:00 AM


Who the hell would work elections without the streets and sans thugs?

9/24/2015 01:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are rats the source of gang graffiti? Someone at compstat needs to ask the question.

9/24/2015 02:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I must say that there are two characters I have enjoyed from time to time...Chalky (even though I felt guilty for laughing) and The Keesing Bandit. But this new Joe Biden crap is by far getting to be the most annoying and the least funny bit on here at the fastest rate.

9/24/2015 04:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hopefully the private contractor call takers wouldn't transfer the majority of their calls to district desks like they do now.

9/24/2015 04:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cicero PD utilizes a private company for their Dispatcers-affiliated
with Superior Anbulance, which Cicero also outsources. The
911 callers get the same 'professional' response as they would
If they were talking to a 'fast food' employee in a drive thru.
Terrible idea for the City.

9/24/2015 05:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Outside contractors, like he ones who buy low and sell (to the City) high.
Outside contractors like the ones CPS has.
Outside contractors like secret ownerships (Daley Family & Friends).
Never trust a Democrat.

9/24/2015 08:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope they put some of these officers where the taxpayers live. I live in the 22nd district and the police out here are "less than motivated" to say the least. Crime is really becoming a problem out here, especially during the daylight hours and they just dont seem to care. Don't a lot of them actually live in this neighborhood? I support the police and will willingly take a property tax increase to fund their pensions, but seriously, how about a little proactive police work? Stop the burglars and auto thieves before they steal my stuff.

9/24/2015 09:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Cicero PD utilizes a private company for their Dispatchers-affiliated
with Superior Ambulance, which Cicero also outsources. The
911 callers get the same 'professional' response as they would
If they were talking to a 'fast food' employee in a drive thru.
Terrible idea for the City.

9/24/2015 05:31:00 PM

Some towns have "outsourced" their ambulance billing to some outfit, PO box in Carol Stream. Same yibble-yibble-yibble phone boiler room, talk as fast as they can and go frantic if you ask them to repeat. Can't wait to get you the hell off that line. You're messing up their "efficiency evaluation."

This sort of thing represents our "growth sector" for jobs. Maybe some of the 10,000 Caterpillar employees who are on their way out can get into this line of work.

Hospital room today fills up with "case managers" and "social workers" and an anti-smoking lady (God bless her) who opens up with a lecture and more people with clipboards until you have to ask them to leave so that you can eat your first small meal in 36 hours.

The more third and fourth and fifth and sixth parties you can bring in on a deal, the less health care, or anything else, will cost, right?

I mean, that is just common sense.

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9/25/2015 02:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

buy out cops!offer 5 years credit on pension!i will be gone at 45 if u let me!SAVE SOME SALARY MONEY HAMSTER!!

9/25/2015 08:55:00 AM  

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