Preliminary Numbers (UPDATES)
- A man was stabbed to death on Labor Day and at least seven other people were fatally shot over the long holiday weekend in Chicago. Those shot to death were among at least 43 people shot from Friday night to Monday evening.
A 23-year-old man was pronounced dead after being shot in the West Garfield Park neighborhood at 7:47 p.m., police said.
The man, who was on parole, was shot in the chest and taken to Stroger Hospital, where he was pronounced dead, police said.
Gee, a parolee involved in yet another crime, this time as a target. Maybe if people (and folks) served more of their sentences, they wouldn't be out to become victims.
We await HeyJackass.com for verification of the actual numbers this weekend.
UPDATE: The Tribune paywalled the story and upped the totals to 9 dead and 46 wounded.
UPDATE: HeyJackass has checked in - 9 dead, 46 wounded and the death investigation at Garfield Park was not among the totals. For comparison purposes:
We await HeyJackass.com for verification of the actual numbers this weekend.
UPDATE: The Tribune paywalled the story and upped the totals to 9 dead and 46 wounded.
UPDATE: HeyJackass has checked in - 9 dead, 46 wounded and the death investigation at Garfield Park was not among the totals. For comparison purposes:
- 2014 Labor Day weekend tally: 7 killed, 37 wounded
2013 Labor Day weekend tally: 12 killed, 27 wounded
Labels: stats
posted by SCC at 1:05 AM
62 Comments:
Anyone know what was going on with ISP last night? Was on my way back from VRI on I90 when this car was tailgating an ISP squad. Then the car began to pace with ISP next to it. I was about to call it in when I saw bunch of ISP behind me lights and sirens and they pulled over the car near the Irving Park exit.
And don't forget the one that died on Sep. 5th after being robbed and shot weeks earlier.
Sorry this will catch flack but gotta play Devils advocate here. Anyone else notice that Chicago police shootings are near an all time low this year? Anyone else notice that shootings and homicides are up this year after many past years. Guns recovered from the street are about normal from years past but police shootings are pretty way down. Why is that? Shootings, homicides and guns are up ao you thing police shootings would keep pace from years past... Is it because coppers are terrified of being the next Darren Wilson? They are scared of being thrown under a bus? Well maybe... But that's not good.. It means coppers are using much more restraint.. They are thinking more before shooting and are letting scenarios play out longer before they shoot. This could be bad for officer safety but, no coppers have been shot this year... So, the big question is now how come it works now? How come now guys are using their head before shooting which is resulting in less police related shootings. This observation was told to me from a friend, who is not the police... It really does bring up a great point. Have the police been quick to shoot in the past? I though to myself maybe coppers are just laying down more this year... Not true, more contact cards, more arrests and more guns recovered this year as compared to last year... So the stops are still happening... An interesting argument to say the least. From the citizen perspective this restraint that is being used now should always be used... The numbers do add up and they theory does make sense... The thought of becoming the next ferguson cop has made cops think harder about pulling the trigger here in Chicago.. Elsewhere in the country cops are tragically dying, but not in the city of Chicago.. We are doing the same work with a ton less police shootings... Should always be like this I think... Let's not be so quick on those triggers if we don't have to be. Be safe... Devils advocate, out
2320hrs - Monday - 47th and Ada / 009th District
2 people shot - 1 in the face ... add those numbers.
"Maybe if people (and folks) served more of their sentences, they wouldn't be out to become victims."
That's more true than you think. People rarely get murdered in prison. As we let an increasing number of "black and brown people" out of jail, expect those homicide demographics to increase.
4 shot in 007 at around 0245hrs.
Does that count ???
Keep the line moving.
O/T: I saw in the comments section of one of the posts yesterday that listed the CPD personnel numbers broken down by rank. Why the fuck does this department need 18 DEPUTY CHIEFS?
Good morning SCC,
Barring any late passings and/or ER walk-ins, we're going to settle on 9 killed (8 shot, 1 stabbed) and 46 shot and wounded. The totals do not reflect the Garfield Park lagoon situation.
-WHT
Chopped up babies don't count as homicides? What a trip Cmon Garry!
RIP Pete Malloy, AKA Martin Milner.
As a kid with a parent who was a CPD member I watched Dragnet, Adam 12 and knew what I was going to do with my life. I just hope future kids out there can find a career that fullfils them like 30 years on CPD has done for me.
It looks like less and less want to be the police. But you cannot falt them after watching whats happening in America now.
What else is new another homicide in 011 Monday on Labor Day!!!! Hey barb more boxes post shooting mission contacts...... Non sense it starts with the piss pour leadership!
OT
Aurora Colorado PD received threats to start shooting PO's on
Sunday. All cars in Aurora Colorado will immediately be 10-4.
The amateurs at our FOP need to demand all units be 10-4 or at the
very least 99 units be dispatched with a back up. No wave offs by
officers saying "I'll let ya know, squad".
I know we do a good job backing each other up but we need to push this issue.
I know it will also cause problems vis a vis RAPs but we are used to that anyway.
We have been relatively lucky so far but how long can it last?
Contact Cards will solve the shootings! Yea okay!
Let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floooooor !!!!!!!
025
Yes, you say an average number of deaths. I suppose that is correct for a dysfunctional community, but not for those who live in civilization.
Anonymous said...
Chopped up babies don't count as homicides? What a trip Cmon Garry!
9/08/2015 07:59:00 AM
Not knowing the specifics, it is not a homicide until the cause of death is known. It is a death investigation. And, no one is saying "chopped up". Possibility that decomposition
Devils advocate, out.
Maybe the police did not pull the trigger in the past, as you suggest ! But maybe the Amish in this shitty city, do not want to be Michael full of holes Brown !!
A.Citizen
6.4 million to t he family of a lifelong criminal who most likely killed himself in the back of a transport van...
can we stop the world, I wanna get off...
ON another NOTE: F U Rahm and your city garbage fees. Rather than lump it in with the tax increases you are going to create extra hassle and paperwork for us so you can "hide" part of the tax increase. i.e. you treat us as IDIOTS and FOOLS create extra paperwork for us all on top of a tax increase. Screw you.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
O/T: I saw in the comments section of one of the posts yesterday that listed the CPD personnel numbers broken down by rank. Why the fuck does this department need 18 DEPUTY CHIEFS?
9/08/2015 07:45:00 AM
The famous pay-off of having clout...
As long as there's clout and the political need
to have clouted monkeys in exempt spots to
be the eyes and ears of the Chicago democratic machine,
CPD will always have a disproportionate amount of redundant
Gold Star clout reward/hidey-hole spots.
This doesn't include the shootings the city is sitting on and not reclassifying either. Have Heyjackass look into that one!!!!
BLACK LIVES MATTER. The GRIM REAPER didn't get the memo obviously.
Chris Christie calls out Obamo and blames him for the war on police and violent crime in Chicago.
Finally, the subject is brought up, let's see how the media covers it.
Hopefully the rest of the GOP gets on board and introduce even more stringent legislation and punishment for
armed violence against the police.
Anonymous said...
O/T: I saw in the comments section of one of the posts yesterday that listed the CPD personnel numbers broken down by rank. Why the fuck does this department need 18 DEPUTY CHIEFS?
9/08/2015 07:45:00 AM
Its called clout and a way to reward the connected. They make huge pensions and bleed it dry so you don't get any. How bout max pension pay out at 100,000. It was talked about a while back but quickly snuffed out. Reward the connected.
OT: Just heard on WBBM radio that Freddie Gray was awarded 6.8 million dollars by the City of Baltimore. "Freddie Gray, who was Black was killed by six White Police Officers". Really, I thought it was three White and three Black Officers. Oh well doesn't matter, no liberal will catch it.
Guys on Parole are order to fulfil their MSR, which is part of their sentence:
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=073000050K3-3-7
The alternative is to keep these guys locked up for their full sentence. However, the prisons are overcrowded, and taxpayers don't want to pay more to lock these guys up.
We're screwed.
"Good morning SCC,
Barring any late passings and/or ER walk-ins, we're going to settle on 9 killed (8 shot, 1 stabbed) and 46 shot and wounded. The totals do not reflect the Garfield Park lagoon situation.
-WHT"
The Amish need to spend more time at the range....
Careful what you wish for with 10-4 units being mandatory could mean an even bigger restriction on time due. " hey boss can I get this slip approved for a day off next week?" "Sorry Office, the FOP just mandated that all units must be 10-4, can't spare you on Wednesday afternoon". "This is bullshit, this is my time to use when I choose!" "Hey, this is what YOU asked for!"
What will it take to shut down the Compstat freak show? It doesn't work. It can't work. These egomaniacs need to realize that police can do very little to take the intent to murder out of the heart of another man. Sure, it's OK to deploy resources to areas that are in need and to make sure that people are doing their job but don't kick and scream when angry, violent people with low IQ continue to kill each other. Don't belittle the policemen who are risking their lives for a thankless ignorant community. We didn't create the problem and we won't be able to solve the problem.
Paw Patrol said...
OT
Aurora Colorado PD received threats to start shooting PO's on
Sunday. All cars in Aurora Colorado will immediately be 10-4.
The amateurs at our FOP need to demand all units be 10-4 or at the
very least 99 units be dispatched with a back up. No wave offs by
officers saying "I'll let ya know, squad".
I know we do a good job backing each other up but we need to push this issue.
I know it will also cause problems vis a vis RAPs but we are used to that anyway.
We have been relatively lucky so far but how long can it last?
9/08/2015 09:52:00 AM
True we have to make sure "Blue lives matter" = "Blue lives protected!" When you get a call you wait for backup, no more rolling in, wait a couple blocks minimum before approaching as your back up arrives! Doesn't make a difference how long it takes wait! We have to be sure job #1 is going home safe after your tour no matter what else happens!
On another note looks like alderman Mike zalewski got his way! Precinct worker told me today that if you have anymore than 2 trash cans they will be removing them! now wait Mike many of us are now in Burke's and Quinn/Madigan's ward after the cut up, why don't you just do it in your 23rd ward? Are you going to be sure to remove all the trash bins from "minority areas" also? People on the west end of 008 keep the area clean, throw trash in carts but with your goofy idea do you want more rats? More trash all over? Your already behind the $12.00 a month pick up fee plus the huge tax on home owners increase is that not double taxation? You have really done nothing with "your ward" look at Archer Av, nice business strip correct? Let's hope my Alderman Eddie Burke tells you "Not in 14th ward" you pay attention to your area Mike don't ruin everything! I know minor issue to you, but another hair brained scheme! So if you have an extra can hose it out and place in your yard garage but then again will the city pick up the garbage! Mike maybe if we have extra garbage we could just put it behind your house because surely all your garbage is picked up!
I don't want a partner, i am perfectly fine riding alone. It allows others on the watch to get comp time granted.
Hey we need to focus on whats important here people....COVER YOUR TATTOOS! Everything else will fall into place. How do people not know this?!?
OT: Baltimore pays $6.4 million to Freddie Grays family,. Your welcome taxpayers! Unbelievable!!
Should always be like this I think... Let's not be so quick on those triggers if we don't have to be. Be safe... Devils advocate, out
9/08/2015 01:57:00 AM
The officers have adjusted to today's needs. You need contact card numbers to earn overtime, so you get contact cards. That doesn't mean you are getting any police work done, that just means you have gotten good at the game.
As a supervisor with some time on and a brain in my head I will tell you that there is very little proactive police work being done. This does not bode well for the future of policing in Chicago. The young are not learning police work. They are learning how to play the Compstat game, though. You will have an inexperienced and unmotivated Department soon. Not only will they not know how to do any investigating and they will have no desire to. They are now afraid to, but hey, less bad guys are getting shot. That's great, right?
The bad guys are gaining a lot of ground. The Media, the lawyers, the race baiting hucksters and politicians are helping them. Good people should start taking notice.
To 1:57. You assume too much
Why are police shootings down?
It is scientific you see officers Rarely go lights and siren crazy to HOT calls. You may recall the days of blowing light and driving 60 down one way street for shot fired calls.
Calls of service times have crept up but RAHM will never bring that up.
ADD the lovely in car cameras and GPS and you could lose your job for an accident with injury. Less units on the actual streets, detailed units at festivals and just a general who cares attitude.
OR you can believe GArrys excuse that the video you watched on a computer taught you awesome tactics that save lives.
Because the city doesn't hire as many new cops as they use to, you get smaller groups which is easier to put with veteran officers. When you had lots of new officers they had to be put together a lot sooner which is when some problems came-up. You had gung-ho officers racing into the middle of trouble without the needed experience to handle it. Now the vets can say, slow down tiger, this is the right way to do it.
Quote: Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sorry this will catch flack but gotta play Devils advocate here. Anyone else notice that Chicago police shootings are near an all time low this year? Anyone else notice that shootings and homicides are up this year after many past years. Guns recovered from the street are about normal from years past but police shootings are pretty way down. Why is that? Shootings, homicides and guns are up ao you thing police shootings would keep pace from years past... Is it because coppers are terrified of being the next Darren Wilson? They are scared of being thrown under a bus? Well maybe... But that's not good.. It means coppers are using much more restraint.. They are thinking more before shooting and are letting scenarios play out longer before they shoot. This could be bad for officer safety but, no coppers have been shot this year... So, the big question is now how come it works now? How come now guys are using their head before shooting which is resulting in less police related shootings. This observation was told to me from a friend, who is not the police... It really does bring up a great point. Have the police been quick to shoot in the past? I though to myself maybe coppers are just laying down more this year... Not true, more contact cards, more arrests and more guns recovered this year as compared to last year... So the stops are still happening... An interesting argument to say the least. From the citizen perspective this restraint that is being used now should always be used... The numbers do add up and they theory does make sense... The thought of becoming the next ferguson cop has made cops think harder about pulling the trigger here in Chicago.. Elsewhere in the country cops are tragically dying, but not in the city of Chicago.. We are doing the same work with a ton less police shootings... Should always be like this I think... Let's not be so quick on those triggers if we don't have to be. Be safe... Devils advocate, out /quote
Anonymous said...
O/T: I saw in the comments section of one of the posts yesterday that listed the CPD personnel numbers broken down by rank. Why the fuck does this department need 18 DEPUTY CHIEFS?
9/08/2015 07:45:00 AM
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Perfect example of bureaucratic bloat. Bottom line - you don't need that many chiefs - no matter what "tribe" you are in.
CUT THE BUDGET! CUT THE FAT! AND then see what you need to do in raising people's taxes.
Between the extra chiefs and their salaries and benefits, 20-25 Aldermen and their staffs and ward budgets, I could find HALF the money already proposed in $500 Million in Tax hikes - if not MORE.
CUT OUT ALL THESE EXTRA people. That's where the savings really are. Raise taxes and you'll chase people out of the city.
When you cut all these people out - no services are getting cut, just highly paid patronage stooges. You may even be able to add 20-40 cops on the street - or pay down the underfunded pension.
Compared to your Mayor, I'm Albert F'king Einstein.
Why the fuck does this department need 18 DEPUTY CHIEFS?
Patronage.
- Not a LEO
I believe Some proud Latin King in 017 met his end also in the wee hours of the night. How's that gang membership working out?
Be careful out there
Damn, I was too high in the over/under. 20.
Freddie grays family gets 6.5 million from Baltimore taxpayers another thug gets ghetto lottery! Warning to us CPD with Al sharpton calling ministers here to Chicago to look into police vs black slime matters crew!
I overestimated the collateral damage and accuracy. Mea cupla
Frank G
Black lives matter, not to blacks
Should always be like this I think... Let's not be so quick on those triggers if we don't have to be. Be safe... Devils advocate, out
Hey troll the next time you find yourself in front of a barrel full of lead ask yourself the same question. Maybe if you got the fuck off that chair in the front office or down town and did something then you might make sense. Don't talk about something you don't know shit about.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sorry this will catch flack but gotta play Devils advocate here. Anyone else notice that Chicago police shootings are near an all time low this year? Anyone else notice that shootings and homicides are up this year after many past years. Guns recovered from the street are about normal from years past but police shootings are pretty way down. Why is that? Shootings, homicides and guns are up ao you thing police shootings would keep pace from years past... Is it because coppers are terrified of being the next Darren Wilson? They are scared of being thrown under a bus? Well maybe... But that's not good.. It means coppers are using much more restraint.. They are thinking more before shooting and are letting scenarios play out longer before they shoot. This could be bad for officer safety but, no coppers have been shot this year... So, the big question is now how come it works now? How come now guys are using their head before shooting which is resulting in less police related shootings. This observation was told to me from a friend, who is not the police... It really does bring up a great point. Have the police been quick to shoot in the past? I though to myself maybe coppers are just laying down more this year... Not true, more contact cards, more arrests and more guns recovered this year as compared to last year... So the stops are still happening... An interesting argument to say the least. From the citizen perspective this restraint that is being used now should always be used... The numbers do add up and they theory does make sense... The thought of becoming the next ferguson cop has made cops think harder about pulling the trigger here in Chicago.. Elsewhere in the country cops are tragically dying, but not in the city of Chicago.. We do the same work with a ton less police shootings... Should always be like this I think... Let's not be so quick on those triggers if we don't have to be. Be safe... Devils advocate, out
9/08/2015 01:57:00 AM
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Now I'll play The Cops Advocate. Maybe shootings are way up because the police are using more restraint and the criminals have become Embolden. THAT IS A HORRIBLE THING! All these anarchist running around are making our nation less safe, not more so. Emboldening thugs does not win the day. Intimidating officers does not help our people.
I am not a cop but that thin blue line needs the support of the people they protect. They need our prayers and our encouragement. They represent us, Our laws, The laws that we as a community have elected our leaders to pass as they represent us. Each time a thug disrespects an officer, they disrespect us. they disrespect our civility and civilization. WE ARE THE PEOPLE, WE DEMAND OBEDIENCE OF OUR COMMUNITY STANDARDS. God bless the men in blue.
Chicago is just full of crazies. Fence off the city, and keep its residents locked in. Let it finish itself off on its own.
OT. great quote on rahms garbage tax, right on!
NOTICE TO MY CHICAGO TENANTS THAT KEEP VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS!
I'm raising rents to cover these democrat increases, and there is now a FEES section that will cover garbage and processing costs levied by your incompetent politicians. I will also place a copy of these Tribune columns so that you understand what impact your voting habits have in the REAL world, since it is apparent your liberal professors in college lied to you.
I know it will also cause problems vis a vis RAPs but we are used to that anyway.
We have been relatively lucky so far but how long can it last?
Does anyone really care about RAPs ? I mean, really? They call the desk probably
6 times a day to tell us. DSS could care less. Does your Lt. run and check the PCAD? Doubt it. The only way out of them is to have more cars, which we're not going to get.
Dear 9/08/2015 09:25:00 AM
God bless .. lots n lots a checks. Its been 20 years of shear aggravation for me. Glad its ending very soon. What a waste of 20 years in my eyes.
Hey 9/08/2015 01:57:00 AM
Did you write this all by yourself while sitting under Gary's desk?
OT: Just heard on WBBM radio that Freddie Gray was awarded 6.8 million dollars by the City of Baltimore. "Freddie Gray, who was Black was killed by six White Police Officers". Really, I thought it was three White and three Black Officers. Oh well doesn't matter, no liberal will catch it.
9/08/2015 11:33:00 AM
More importantly, the officers didn't kill him. He died of injuries that he may have suffered in the back of the wagon. Best case scenario for the prosecutors, the officers failed to render aid.
Why are police shootings down?
It is scientific you see officers Rarely go lights and siren crazy to HOT calls. You may recall the days of blowing light and driving 60 down one way street for shot fired calls.
Calls of service times have crept up but RAHM will never bring that up.
ADD the lovely in car cameras and GPS and you could lose your job for an accident with injury. Less units on the actual streets, detailed units at festivals and just a general who cares attitude.
OR you can believe GArrys excuse that the video you watched on a computer taught you awesome tactics that save lives.
&&&&&&&&
All that changed this year????? Gps in cars in 2006.. Cameras started in 2008.. Low manpower since 2008. Lawsuits against the city peaked between 2004-2010.. So let's try again. All of a sudden within 10 months coppers haven't started driving slower to jobs or started worrying about gps and cameras... Those have been here for about 8 years now. Face it... Guys are thinking more now. Has nothing to do with GMAC or training... Just using restraint and common sense.. It's not a bad thing
10:48 pm.-clearly the burbs have spoken here. What happened, not liking the section 8's daley sent ya's? Or is it our charming residents shopping in "your" stores? Only we can talk shit about the shit bags that share the city with us,you people looking in don't know shit! Move farther
Anonymous Anonymous said...
O/T: I saw in the comments section of one of the posts yesterday that listed the CPD personnel numbers broken down by rank. Why the fuck does this department need 18 DEPUTY CHIEFS?
9/08/2015 07:45:00 AM
Why does it take a post from this sites "favorite mouthbreather" to tell the rank and file cops things that we should already know?
I'll be honest and admit I didn't know there were that many useless "senior executive rank" blowhards...but it really didn't surprise me to know this department is top heavy in positions that could probably be dumped onto 1 person at a 50% savings.
Freddie grays family gets 6.5 million from Baltimore taxpayers another thug gets ghetto lottery! Warning to us CPD with Al sharpton calling ministers here to Chicago to look into police vs black slime matters crew!
9/08/2015 07:50:00 PM
Strange thing is - Freddy's family has not even filed a civil suit yet ! The city decided just to pay off now. Also - that city has a max cap of $400,000 in any civil suit - yes a cap. Juries have award more - only to have state court of appeals give the max of $400,000. Not to mention paying them ANYTHING before the criminal trial is even started makes cops look like they did something wrong - so they just further tainted a potential jury pool - Bad move by the incompetent Mayor of that city
Hey devils advocate, here's my take... I do the bare minimum now and only what I have to so I can keep my job. Many many many do the same
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Freddie grays family gets 6.5 million from Baltimore taxpayers another thug gets ghetto lottery! Warning to us CPD with Al sharpton calling ministers here to Chicago to look into police vs black slime matters crew!
9/08/2015 07:50:00 PM
Strange thing is - Freddy's family has not even filed a civil suit yet ! The city decided just to pay off now. Also - that city has a max cap of $400,000 in any civil suit - yes a cap. Juries have award more - only to have state court of appeals give the max of $400,000. Not to mention paying them ANYTHING before the criminal trial is even started makes cops look like they did something wrong - so they just further tainted a potential jury pool - Bad move by the incompetent Mayor of that city
9/09/2015 08:18:00 AM
Like our city council throwing away 6 million in council chambers to thugs accusing Burge nothing ever proven and then turning around and applauded the thugs ridiculous! But it's not their money it's our money!
This Cap on Bullshit lawsuit should be looked at!
Budget crisis anybody? Look at the City budget now a nice chunk is for lawsuits against the city 400k is a low figure Alderman Burke can you read the blog in the back of your luxury SUV driven by armed guards on the cities dime. I should have went to RAHMs listening tour ...
All units should be 10-4. But when your partner's time due is turned down do you give in work alone so he can have off? Now your stuck with a goof if you ask for a partner. The union demanded this stuff 25 years ago and within days we submarined ourselves.
Before the rank and file sticks together I fear a tragedy will have to happen here. Look at your next roll call a see if I'm right.
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