Saturday, November 21, 2015

So...Not for the Children?

  • Until a couple of years ago, neighbors say few people even knew about tiny Challenger Playlot Park, nestled under the thunder of the CTA Red Line tracks on the city's North Side.

    That's because the gravel dog walk surrounded by a chain-link fence isn't really what many would consider a park. It has no playground equipment. No picnic table.

    But the park has become notorious for the one thing it does have — a nearby speed camera that has quickly racked up more than $2 million in tickets. Residents describe the camera, which went live in December 2013, as a poster child for what's wrong with Mayor Rahm Emanuel's "Children's Safety Zone" program.

    "This is where they are saving children? This is a place to walk your dog," said homeowner Alissa Friedman, who received two tickets from the camera. "No one's in danger. No one is even remotely in danger."
This particular camera has been mentioned here dozens of times and in other publications. It's emblematic of the money-drive behind the camera program, not any sort of "safety." In fact, the most dangerous intersections or stretches of surface street don't seem to have any cameras at all:
  • The 25 cameras that generate the most tickets in the city are all park cameras, and all are placed on well-traveled major streets where crash data show child pedestrians are least likely to be struck by speeders.
Imagine that - it isn't for the children at all:
  • An examination of crash data shows that no children have been hit by speeding cars along the stretch of Irving Park Road near Challenger Park since at least 2004, even though some have been injured on the residential interior streets nearby.
In fact, we've heard that all of the most dangerous stretches of road have not even a single camera. Children (and pedestrians) get hit mostly on interior streets where their guard is down and drivers are coming off a busy street. You get the occasional Lake Shore Drive fatality, but there isn't supposed to be foot traffic there anyway.

Just so we're clear, the cameras are a money grab, and if the media had done their job when this crap started, mapping out where cameras got placed, where the casualties piled up, where the accidents were (you know, like investigative reporting used to be), instead of just re-posting Shortshanks and Emanuel press releases, then they would have fulfilled their purpose of keeping the electorate informed and politicians semi-accountable.

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35 Comments:

Anonymous 11th Dist King said...

It s for the kids. LMAO

11/21/2015 01:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ol' Challenger Park...barely visible from Irving Park Rd. Never saw a kid in that park once in the yr and a half that I was there after 019/023 merged. Only saw a person walking a dog there two or three times. Not a high pedestrian-traffic route at all.

11/21/2015 01:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well Allisa, you voted for Rahm.
Then you voted for him AGAIN!

THIS IS WHAT YOU DESERVE!

Remember when the 9 1/2 Digit Midget talked about "possibly" getting rid of some of those cameras during his re-election campaign? I hear he just put more in...


In the words of the movie Goodfellas:
"Fuck you, pay me!"

11/21/2015 01:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The camera's are in place to enforce the speed limit. Where they are placed is meaningless, as long as they punish people who break traffic laws by speeding. Simple, drive just below the speed limit and you will never have to fear a traffic speed camera.

11/21/2015 01:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has anybody asked for or said hey you're short on movers since the cameras have been installed ?.....leave the cameras up and learn to read signs while driving !

11/21/2015 03:44:00 AM  
Anonymous The Neanderthal said...

Great idea. Designate every odd-shaped wedge of land, every stupid landscaped "roundabout" thing in the street as a "park," and then put up a camera.

Christ, putting out a salt block and then waiting for deer is illegal...

11/21/2015 04:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only time people care is when it affects them directy, then less than half of those actually use theirvoice.

11/21/2015 06:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While I agree with all of the complaints about the speed cameras, one point is missed. The offenders were speeding. Nobody seems to be disputing that. If a person pays attention to their surroundings, instead of yacking on the phone, checking to make sure their ammo clip is full or whatever else they are doing to distract themselves, they will notice that they are, in fact, speeding. I hate the fact that speed cameras, red light cameras, coppers with radar guns, etc, are out there, but I hate it even more that sometimes they are needed, because people can't be relied to do the right thing. But then again, if people always did the right thing, we wouldn't need the boys and girls in blue in the first place.

11/21/2015 06:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A playlot park under the L tracks?
That's where the corruption investigation should start. That little park most of lined somebody's pockets generously.
The City has closed many of manufacturing sites for environmental issues in the name of The Children.
Did anyone ever think what might spew from the overhead as trains pass besides brake dust and the leaching chemically treated lumber?
The money was spent and the gifts were allocated but that Park funding should be investigated as well.

11/21/2015 07:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets face it, the speed and red light cameras are not going away. We might get a few reforms because of this press coverage, but that is all we will get. Red light cameras and speed cameras are making their way in urban areas around the world. It is only a matter of time until the speed cameras hit the suburbs and maybe even the rural areas.

11/21/2015 08:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is Rahm's baby program, started by Rahm when elected!

Time to get Rahm out of Office and send that lying weasel to the unemployment line!

Is their a recall option for Mayors and Aldermen in Chicago! If not, there should be!

I would sign the petition to get this lying prick out of office NOW!

11/21/2015 08:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Fuck Illinois said...

The Chicago Outfit could not have done any better on this fuckin' scam.

11/21/2015 08:33:00 AM  
Blogger Cuthbert J. Twillie said...

++++++ ' The camera is on a well-traveled stretch of Irving Park Road, almost twice as far from the park as the law allows, and it has tagged thousands of drivers like Friedman after the park's gate has closed at 9 p.m. ' ++++++


Twice the distance, LOL, now that's funny.

Like people expect Tiny Dancer to obey any stinking laws. Hell, he doesn't have to, he's a democrat. Laws are meant for the little people ---- and republicans.

Don't believe me?...ask president Sparklefarts and his lackeys in the Justice Dept. Hell, ask any democrat in any government -- city, county, state, or Fed. They laugh at the fucking laws.

What's Sharpton's Tax Liability now?..5 Mill with penalties and compound interest -- Like he's ever going to pay, ha! How many laws has the not-so Rev Jesse Jackson Broke? Extortion is still illegal isn't it? How many laws did Eric Holder break? Or Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi? The fucking CLINTONS!! To Democrats laws are only 'guides', to be ignored as they see fit!!

Annnnnnd last but not least, how many Laws has the average 'law abiding' Illegal Alien violated? Besides the illegal entry into the country we've got ID Theft, Mail Fraud, Wire Fraud, Bank Fraud, Vote Fraud, etc etc., but they vote democrat so they're safe. HOWEVER, a US Citizen who was busted for all those would be (could be) looking at 30 to 50 Years in Federal Prison if convicted for all!!

(--rant/off--)

11/21/2015 10:20:00 AM  
Blogger SpankDaddy said...

Money grab. That is all. Nothing to see here.

11/21/2015 10:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, it's for the children...and the dogs. If it saves one Chihuahua, it's worth it.

11/21/2015 10:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Not hard to figure out.

These 6 Corporations Control 90% Of The Media In America ...

GE
News Corp
Disney
Viacom
Time Warner
CBS

http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6

The media owns the political cabal, funds their campaigns and keeps them in power using propaganda.

In return the corporations get special treatment on financial crimes and they get tax breaks.

One HUGE circle jerk of money.

You think Rahm cares about the city being in debt and/or increasing the debt? HELL NO!

Rahm's investment banker friends that help put him and others into office benefit when the city doesn't pay it's bills.

Chicago's debt is used as a tool by the bankers to demand higher interest rates on city bonds. Who benefits? The bankers. Who Pays. The taxpayers.

Uh-oh, Chicago can't pay it's bills and now the bankers have a reason to raise the interest rates that the city should pay to borrow the money via bond sales.

Whelp, guess we'll have to raise the taxes on the Chicago taxpayers AGAIN!.

And that circle jerk continues.

Seriously, why would an elected official want to reduce the cities debt when that would hurt the people that put them in office? Where's the campaign contribution money going to come from next election cycle when you hurt the profits of the people that funded your campaign?

There's no incentive to pay down the cities debt just as there is no will to pay down the states debt or the nations debt.

11/21/2015 11:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, ain't this a fine how-do-you-do? You don't say. I couldn't have said it better myself.

11/21/2015 11:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Challenger Park is a full children's playlot at Buena and Kenmore. There are always children there during the day. The dog park is the only part of the park that is really under the tracks. Freidman is a typical self righteous yuppie who will reverse her stance if she ever has kids. One way Jackson Blvd mother fucker

11/21/2015 12:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
The camera's are in place to enforce the speed limit. Where they are placed is meaningless, as long as they punish people who break traffic laws by speeding. Simple, drive just below the speed limit and you will never have to fear a traffic speed camera.

11/21/2015 01:39:00 AM

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Right.....! And I'll bet your blood boils too and you end up getting around anyone who is going exactly the speed limit. Give me a break!

11/21/2015 02:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The camera's are in place to enforce the speed limit. Where they are placed is meaningless, as long as they punish people who break traffic laws by speeding. Simple, drive just below the speed limit and you will never have to fear a traffic speed camera.

11/21/2015 01:39:00 AM

You might not have to fear getting a ticket but ROAD RAGE can be one mean son of a bitch.

11/21/2015 02:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahms dumb ass ain't going nowhere, he is gonna be in office like stupid Daley... Why? Because ur Chicago voter, votes worse than the people of Iraq during the saddam era, I believe saddam got 90 percent of the vote... Chicago voters vote 98 percent one party, you got it... For the party of secession, and Jim Crow, your good old Democratic Party... Those guys have been a pain in the ass since president Jackson-- back to the 1820s

11/21/2015 02:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Fuck Illinois said...

The Chicago Outfit could not have done any better on this fuckin' scam.

11/21/2015 08:33:00 AM

You sure they're not involved?

11/21/2015 03:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speed camera on Cicero north of Lawrence past viaduct another scam camera. The park which neighbors call the "hidden park" is west of Cicero on the side street. No one knows that park exists because it's tucked away in the neighborhood block.

11/21/2015 03:56:00 PM  
Blogger John Silentius said...

I live right near there and the cars speed down that section of Irving Park road. A friend of mine died in a car accident there two years ago.

11/21/2015 04:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Like the other post, I don't know why all the bitching about the cameras, if he doesn't get his money from speeders and red light runners guess what? just raise the taxes more. I personally have never gotten a ticket and I drive all over the city everyday. just sayin.

11/21/2015 05:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The solution is simple: drive 25 MPH to 30 MPH at all times.

I get a good laugh at people who are driving 40 MPH and even higher on city streets. Traffic signals are designed and timed to deter speeders and to manage traffic congestion on multiple intersections. Even if you beat the first set of traffic lights, in four blocks ahead you will be stopped at a red light.

11/21/2015 05:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The camera's are in place to enforce the speed limit. Where they are placed is meaningless, as long as they punish people who break traffic laws by speeding. Simple, drive just below the speed limit and you will never have to fear a traffic speed camera.

11/21/2015 01:39:00 AM

OK then Sparky. Put a till on your speedometer and every time you wander over the limit, give the nine and a half fingered hob goblin $200 clams. Me, I'm not so up for that.

11/21/2015 07:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yes, they are a money grab, but yes, they also do modify behaviors like speeding in School zones. it only took me one fine to change my behavior and my route.

11/21/2015 09:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With all these shitheads shooting at each other, you would think they could at least take out a few of the cameras. I mean the clearance rate for homicides is like 13%, I think it would be zero for a few ventilated theft machines.

11/21/2015 10:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Stahu said...

The Challenger Park camera is located on a stretch of Irving Park Rd where there are cemeteries on both sides of the street. It's not for the children - it's for the dead, and the dead do vote in Chicago.

11/21/2015 11:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Speed camera on Cicero north of Lawrence past viaduct another scam camera. The park which neighbors call the "hidden park" is west of Cicero on the side street. No one knows that park exists because it's tucked away in the neighborhood block.

11/21/2015 03:56:00 PM

And no one EVER crosses the street there, because the east side of the street is the expressway. Total money grab.

11/22/2015 12:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On streets other than angle streets in light traffic if you drive about 28 mph you will hit almost all green lights and miss the red.

11/22/2015 08:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The camera's are in place to enforce the speed limit. Where they are placed is meaningless, as long as they punish people who break traffic laws by speeding. Simple, drive just below the speed limit and you will never have to fear a traffic speed camera."

11/21/2015 01:39:00 AM

Ignore the troll.

11/23/2015 03:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On streets other than angle streets in light traffic if you drive about 28 mph you will hit almost all green lights and miss the red.

11/22/2015 08:20:00 AM

...and Santa is real. Who told you that? It is simply not true.

11/23/2015 05:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"One HUGE circle jerk of money."

11/21/2015 11:10:00 AM

Yup, place to be is at Loevy and Loevy, "People's Law Project," place like that where you can't miss grabbing the silver dollars that come cascading out onto the floor when you hit the G.L. with a fireball.

Right?

11/23/2015 11:50:00 PM  

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