What We Deal With II
Just got this in an e-mail:
This is an actual call, taken by OEMC and dispatched to a district unit - snatches "mom's" $400 phone, refuses to go to school, demanding the latest shoes - any one of these things would have gotten us our asses handed to us years ago...and god forbid the police actually showed up at the door, because then we'd be up for two ass-whippings, maybe three.
But these calls are taken, logged and dispatched every single day in parts of town, making police play social worker to a problem that has been sixteen years in the making....more if you count "mom." This also detracts from chasing, stopping, investigating actual crimes....like the nearly 100 shootings in 2016 so far.
We're going to start a little feature here on SCC - we want pictures of the PDT screens of the stupidest, craziest, lamest calls the readers have been dispatched to. Just photograph the narrative portion. Leave off caller info and stuff like that so we don't have to crop it. Leave off the Event Number and other District identifiers to mess with 35th Street. We'll post the good ones and let others see the dumb stuff we're sent to solve.
But these calls are taken, logged and dispatched every single day in parts of town, making police play social worker to a problem that has been sixteen years in the making....more if you count "mom." This also detracts from chasing, stopping, investigating actual crimes....like the nearly 100 shootings in 2016 so far.
We're going to start a little feature here on SCC - we want pictures of the PDT screens of the stupidest, craziest, lamest calls the readers have been dispatched to. Just photograph the narrative portion. Leave off caller info and stuff like that so we don't have to crop it. Leave off the Event Number and other District identifiers to mess with 35th Street. We'll post the good ones and let others see the dumb stuff we're sent to solve.
Labels: general
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
114 Comments:
I hope this was coded as a 19-P.
Speaking of what we deal with, did anyone see the copper from Philadelphia who was ambushed by an isis-believer? Bad guy shot about a dozen times, actually shoved the gun into the car, and struck the copper several times. The copper was able to return fire and hit the shithead three times. Stay safe out there, people. Speedy recovery to that Philadelphia officer too.
I was in the middle of a debate about the Chicago Police over New Years with a 20 yr. old kid who believes the hype about what's going on with the CPD solely based upon what has been seen and heard in the media. I calmly tried to explain and reason with him, it was pointless. I think this is a great idea, people just don't get it.
This is going to be really, really good. How about some of those calls for the CFD too.
but your parents wouldn't have had a 400 dollar cell phone either. When I was a kid, we all had just the basics, and made do with it.
Prepare to be overloaded with posts about stupid calls.
............why not call the reverends.
There was one last week "Domestic Disturbance" - caller having problems with her 8 year old grand daughter. Wtf?!
Shut yo' mouff SCC! These are Hillary voters and you damn well better get used to it! Uh Huhhhh....(you may add your own westside head roll for affect).
OEMC did not let the popo know that the kid was raised by a single mom, grew up with no father = no respect for anything.
" This also detracts from chasing, stopping, investigating actual crimes....like the nearly 100 shootings in 2016 so far. Only if its a 911 call regarding actual crime because if you get a anonymous man with a gun call you must do a surveillance to develop enough reasonable articulate reason to search the subjects I Shit you not call the contact card gurus @ R&D
And how many calls do we ride on that are strictly CFD's show? Why can't we do what they do, "Squad, advise CFD that the police are not responding at this time. Have them advise."
I like this
A few years ago, I was dispatched to a disturbance call. Seems the complainant's own air conditioner was too loud for her to sleep. Still not sure what she wanted us to do about it. Years later and people still don't believe me when I tell them the b.s. we respond to.
Does he have any shoes? Why does mom have a $ 400 phone? This all seems excessive.
Anyway you can get the police camera video of the reallly stupid and the really ugly calls?
Show us just what kind of crud that our officers have to deal with everyday?
The motherf----s, the disrespect, the stupidity. Show us taxpayers what you deal with, and why we'd hate to do it ourselves.
Great idea scc I hope you keep posting pdt shots for a long time! It will be years of entertainment that I will look forward to reading
Excellent Idea
Wait....I thought city leaders weren't going to dispatch the police to that crap so they could be available for more serious calls. We are way to short handed to be down on calls like this.
Super excited...this will be so much fun!
I got one...how do I send it to you?
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That's something I'll never miss again. Some people should not be allowed to breed.
Schools are nothing more than day care centers and now the police are being forced into the role of a caring parent. The real parent(s) don't have time to deal with juniors tantrum.
Watch out for each other, Jr. may be packing a Glock.
J.J.
Poor idea...I AM watching....George Orwell.
Mc-Gone said nonsense wasn't to be dispatched...oh wait Blk Caucus/Rev's balked!
Different times, and different generation today. Giving your kid the ass whupping he/she/it deserves will get one in really hot water for child abuse.
Always a regular style call on Zone 12. Lots of calls about "disrespect", he "gots to go", or many other types of calls where they like to add "they gots guns"
How about pics of the deplorable vehicles we have to drive?
What are the odds that this "mother" with a $400 phone receives government assistance of some sort? Priorities.
You're gonna get a lot of funny stuff.
Awesome idea. This is gonna be good.
Pay no attention to those calls, SCC, and pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
The problem is not caused by entire communities with corrupt values who are subsidized to make populations of babies they cannot raise, but by Tea Partiers, the NRA, Koch Bros. and Donald Trump.
This is nuts. I was born in 1952. Neither I, nor anyone I knew, would ever consider taking something away from our mother or father. None of us ever demanded anything, and it wasn't the threat of punishment that prevented such behavior, it just wasn't done. And I will add that I grew up with some genuinely tough families in my neighborhood.
Calling the police to control a child? Again, it just didn't happen. We, the children of our generation, grew up admiring the police. They were superheros, and could always be counted on to do the right thing.
Now, not wanting to go to school, that happened on a regular basis. We went anyway.
Yep, I can attest that that really happened. I heard it go out over the air a couple days ago in the morning.
The shocking thing about it was that it Wasn't shocking. Just more of the typical bullshit you coppers have to put up with on a daily basis playing goddamn Social Worker / Father / Husband / Mommy / Priest, etc. etc. -- everything BUT Police Officer.
I often wonder how Chicago's TAXPAYERS would react if they knew about that type of bullshit you have to put up with instead of doing actual Police Work like you were hired to do. I have a hunch that they wouldn't be exactly pleased -- to say the least (lol) -- and that it'd be it for Tiny Dancer and he'd have to flee town under the cover of darkness. Especially now.
And it couldn't happen to a more deserving asshole.
It's too bad we don't have any actual Reporters left in Chicago with guts who would expose this WASTE of Police resources. One of those 'journalist' mopes has to be listening to the online police scanner.
ps: not that helping citizens in need should be off limits but dammit to hell there's a point where you cross into the ridiculous.
Posting these calls is just such a great idea.
I would get out of the car but handle that job from the front porch. No need to enter, imho. Sorry Mom, we can no longer issue retroactive contraception. Enjoy!
JUST A CITIZEN SAYS: So let's recap:
LE are, in addition to protecting us citizens who have a moral compass:
Babysitters
Teachers
Doctors
Referees
Coaches
Mommy
Daddy
You need the salaries of all those combined in addition to your salary from the government.
PERIOD.
An excellent example of the real problems facing police--lack of parenting, lack of impulse control, desire for immediate gratification, etc.
Don't do anything. Call Supervisor to scene. Recommend seeing local Alderman or Reverend.
I would be careful telling people to take a pic of their department computer screen. IAD will be all over it for violating the media policy and using a phone to take photographs while on duty without permission.
Maybe type out what the call says instead of posting pic....
just saying
Love how she mentions "he took my $400 DOLLAR! phone." Lol didn't know the market value of Obama phones was that high
Domestic disturbance with a truant involved and possible theft over. Weapons on the premise, possibly illegal. Sounds like an issue that might deserve some police attention. Might even fall under what you are paid to do, serve and protect.
19D, next................
Hey, that's a suburban call.... get your own!
1P. See ya!!!
Runt Daley said years ago, if they want the Police send them the Police no matter how ridiculous the call. Thus the Chicago Police Dispatch Policy was born, Spend your night answering bullshit non-police calls only to have your Sgt at checkoff say, "What did you do for the company today"?
I got a sent on a call once from a 16 yoa girl whose complaint was that her 12 yoa brother was bothering her while she was doing the dishes. Hmmm, I wonder where she learned that skill set from? You can't make this stuff up.
It only makes sense that we the police are the pseudo parents of these rat dependents. Our taxes pay for their very existence. Unfortunately we aren't able to claim them for that purpose.
Unreal waste of city resources here. My mother and a belt would have solved this in seconds. And it never would've happened again.
4th District, Jeffrey Manor, "domestic".
Mama is trying to watch a certain program on TV, but Jr., age 12 keeps changing the channel.
School day during school hours, but Jr.'s at home watching TV.
I agree, calls of this nature should be sent to the rev-runs that seem to have all the answers on how the po-lice should act and respond.
"Squad,make that a 19Pfleger"
We don't make them eat their peas either!
Domestic disturbance with a truant involved and possible theft over. Weapons on the premise, possibly illegal. Sounds like an issue that might deserve some police attention. Might even fall under what you are paid to do, serve and protect.
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Sounds like a parenting issue. People can disagree and disagree loudly - no battery has occurred. The (U) on the screen means (UNKNOWN) for weapons, and you are allowed to have guns in your house...or don't you know the law? Heck you can have bats and knives, too. The phone isn't stolen or damaged, mom knows exactly where it is at. Sounds exactly like a code - 1-Adam, not a legit Domestic.
Anonymous said...
I hope this was coded as a 19-P.
1/09/2016 12:09:00 AM
i would hope a supervisor stepped in to code it also.seriously?
My future clientele, in their formative stage.
Chalkie
PO John Knight #5119 rip always remembered
Domestic disturbance with a truant involved and possible theft over. Weapons on the premise, possibly illegal. Sounds like an issue that might deserve some police attention. Might even fall under what you are paid to do, serve and protect.
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Sounds like a parenting issue. People can disagree and disagree loudly - no battery has occurred. The (U) on the screen means (UNKNOWN) for weapons, and you are allowed to have guns in your house...or don't you know the law? Heck you can have bats and knives, too. The phone isn't stolen or damaged, mom knows exactly where it is at. Sounds exactly like a code - 1-Adam, not a legit Domestic.
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True enough but that only could be determined by an investigation which could result in a different outcome than 1-Adam. How do you know what is happening by reading a computer screen. A battery does not have to occur for an incident to be a domestic disturbance. Exactly unknown weapons, does that definitely mean there are none. Guns, bats and knives kill people. Domestics disputes lead to violent outcomes. Bad parenting results in bad kids. Perhaps a bit of police investigation may be warranted here. It is what you are paid to do.......
Anonymous said...
Always a regular style call on Zone 12. Lots of calls about "disrespect", he "gots to go", or many other types of calls where they like to add "they gots guns"
You forgot about the classic one "he put hands on me". 1P it is!
1st watch 2nd Dist. Domestic call was about a 11 yr. old boy who wouldn't stop playing his X Box and go to bed. Young mom didn't know what to do after her son said he'd call police on her for child abuse if she hit him.
Excellent idea. This would be one more reason to recommend this blog to those who NEED to read it and have their minds opened a little. The insanity and foolishness you men and women are duty-bound to respond to is fucking surreal sometimes. God bless and stay safe.
That bullshit is on the Sergeants ask anyone in 003 if they send a car to that.
they have one sgt that codes those calls and tells the dispatchers we ain't going to that. Then chastises them for putting it out in the first place..
Start having Sgts roll on those jobs. They get to the door and ask if anyone is injured or has been battered. No? Don't enter. Not a police matter.
Good day, sir.
Signed,
A Sgt
We had a call, meet the ambulance the caller has bad cramps.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Different times, and different generation today. Giving your kid the ass whupping he/she/it deserves will get one in really hot water for child abuse.
1/09/2016 07:43:00 AM
No, it won't.
Corporal punishment is legal in the state of Illinois.
Leaving permanent marks or breaking bones is not.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wait....I thought city leaders weren't going to dispatch the police to that crap so they could be available for more serious calls. We are way to short handed to be down on calls like this.
1/09/2016 03:26:00 AM
Oh, THAT kind of nonsense call gets dispatched. But a 'theft just occurred' with the offender gone for a mere 30 seconds... NO. That doesn't get dispatched. You're told to call 311.
These types of issues should be reported each day in the local media outlets so people and folks know what you deal with on each and every tour of duty.
One favorite was in 015 on New Year's Eve. "Check the well-being of a person drinking at such-and-such tavern. His name Shorty."
A car was actually dispatched.
Many of these calls should not be dispatched. As for the ignorant 20 yr old male who believes the hype, he may change his mind after he is robbed.
"Love how she mentions "he took my $400 DOLLAR! phone." Lol didn't know the market value of Obama phones was that high."
1/09/2016 10:05:00 AM
This is an urban myth. No one is getting free smartphones. An Obamaphone is a little thing, has a value of about $5.00 retail. More for poor older people so they are not completely cut off, can call for help if they fall in the bathroom or something. You are allowed something like 150-250 minutes per month. You can get low-income "Lifeline" service on either a wireline or a cell phone, but not both at once.
No eight-year-old in the ghetto would be caught dead with one. Gotta have massive and total connectivity, in designer colors too.
"There was one last week "Domestic Disturbance" - caller having problems with her 8 year old grand daughter. Wtf?!"
1/09/2016 12:51:00 AM
Probably the same one who'd come off the porch motherf__ing the police when someone gets shot on the block, demanding that CPR be performed on somebody laying there d-e-a-d with his brain matter all over the sidewalk...
Anonymous said...
I would be careful telling people to take a pic of their department computer screen. IAD will be all over it for violating the media policy and using a phone to take photographs while on duty without permission.
Maybe type out what the call says instead of posting pic....
just saying
1/09/2016 09:56:00 AM
Absooooluuuutly right. You would have to rephrase it all or else it would be able to be traced back to photographer. Google "Canary Trap" [used in a Tom Clancy novel to run down the source of information]. Some Nimrods still won't believe it.
All I know is that I'm not paid enough for this shit.
The dems keep piling on more duties for police that are not law enforcement related.
I was hired to protect life and property or to solve the crimes committed against life or property.
I was not hired to, babysit, teach right from wrong, educate, mentor, coach, etc.
Police states use police for these functions not the United Stares, even in the democratic socialist city of Chicago.
Changed a light bulb for an elderly woman once, she couldn't reach it. So many quiet, "invisible" people are all alone and need help sometimes and don't know what to do. It's OK, wish I could have done more.
Hate to let the big secret out and spoil coppers' bad reputation, but a little love gets passed around out there too. Got to give some to get some.
God bless all here. Stay safe.
19P - not a police issue, and call taker should be suspended for even dispatching the call. There is nothing in that call that warrants even a whisper of an emergency response.
Domestic disturbance with a truant involved and possible theft over. Weapons on the premise, possibly illegal. Sounds like an issue that might deserve some police attention. Might even fall under what you are paid to do, serve and protect.
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Clearly not a cop. Probably from Loevy and Loevy hoping for the stop receipts to come in and start trying to win the lottery. If by chance you are a cop and this is how you think this call should be handled...quit.
Anonymous said...
I got a sent on a call once from a 16 yoa girl whose complaint was that her 12 yoa brother was bothering her while she was doing the dishes. Hmmm, I wonder where she learned that skill set from? You can't make this stuff up.
1/09/2016 11:23:00 AM
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I'd have helped. At least she was doing the dishes.
Stan 'The Man' Nowinski of Zone 10 yesteryear, purveyor of Stan's Wild Kingdom fame, was decades ahead of his time in dealing with this type of shit. I'll never forget when he handed me a stack of orange cards at an "Albany Inn" and told me to "take care of those, kid". If only it were that easy today.
Hope you're doing well, Stan. And a blast of Chivas Regal to you, pal.
An Orland PO told me about a lady concerned that the deer in the Forest
Preserves were getting wet.She wanted the police to put them in for the night.
The phone isn't stolen. They're just playing keep away.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Domestic disturbance with a truant involved and possible theft over. Weapons on the premise, possibly illegal. Sounds like an issue that might deserve some police attention. Might even fall under what you are paid to do, serve and protect.
Nasty little troll. Go back to figuring out how to make the Mayor look good enough.
We get 911 call from mom's that their baby's won't do their homework and this city allows that to be dispatched
Make sure the metadata is turned off on your mobile devices when you take photograph, the metadata can identify you
20dst 1w
Several years ago I went to "Domestic: mom is mad at 14 year old son for eating her Skittles". Seems fair as she was like 25.
These days a 4-D assignment is a blessing.
So long as New Shoes doesn't have a knife, baseball bat or a PCP buzz, a slow ride and a toot on the "Come on Down" horn can DeEscalate that 5-F into a 1.25 hour job.
But the scandalous part of the call was the $400 O'BamaFone®...that's just crazy talk.
Don't do anything. Call Supervisor to scene. Recommend seeing local Alderman or Reverend.
1/09/2016 09:40:00 AM
If you call this supervisor to the scene, you'll be told to handle the job yourself. Then, I'd come to the scene once you figured out how to handle that difficult scenario with the proper code, and I'd suggest you bring mommy to work with you tomorrow. If you think the answer to all your problems is to put it all on the Sgt, you are sorely mistaken. Don't waste our time and make yourself look like the dumbass you are by calling for a supervisor every time you get a job you don't like. Any supervisor that would actually show up when called to something like that, without questioning you first as to why they're needed, is a fucking moron. If you can't come up with a reason for needing a supervisor, it's probably best not to call for one. If you want to call for a supervisor just to play games, be aware that the supervisor holds better cards than you, so you're not winning that game. Do your job or find another. Idiot.
11th district @ 1988....women doesn't feel like having sex with her drunk husband, call the police. Get to the apt. At least 3 kids in diapers running around, says she doesn't like him anymore. Hubby slightly intoxicated, gave him a ride to work at the Moo and Oink to get him out of the apt. True story. There's a million more stories like this. Your tax dollars at work.
My good friend works for CFD. You should hear some of the time and money wasting calls he gets and has to respond to. The fire department plays social services like the police do.
To the guy trying to reason with the 20yr old kid.
A 20yr old is worse than a teenager, they think they are an adult yet still in college and jobless.
They are saturated with bs from liberal professors who will actually lower the grade based on their opinion and not the fact that they can back up an argument with facts. If they want to be popular or get laid, they have to at least play along with the liberal agenda. They think the media can't lie. They have the attention span of a gnat and can't even pick up the obvious discrepancies that the media portrays daily.
More than likely that same kid in ten years will have lightened his tone, having had a job and seen how much it was taxed, see disadvantaged others be promoted ahead of him, had his house or car broken into etc etc etc. Experience is the best teacher.
Domestic disturbance with a truant involved and possible theft over. Weapons on the premise, possibly illegal. Sounds like an issue that might deserve some police attention. Might even fall under what you are paid to do, serve and protect.
It's not a police matter, it's an issue the parent needs to handle. It's not our job to raise or discipline other people's children. The calls of tell my 10 year old to go to bed, tell my 13 year old they have to do their homework, etc., are ridiculous and not police issues. It's all part of the problem where people have become so dependent on the government for everything, they're incapable of making a decision without the government's input and that includes how to their kids.
SCC , great idea! I can't wait to read the call takers messages. But even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
This should provide some "prima facie" evidence of the insanity that you good women&men must deal with. Moprah can not twist it it to her anti police philosophy when it was spewn by caller.
One point - however - if you have an I Foam disable the GPS mode in order to keep the IAD rats from an "in attention to duty" allegation. Remember the ongoing fiasco with Zak Emmanuel's robbery case report.
#Blue Lives matter!
Call Rahm he enjoys adopting new kids from the hood.. Or the FOP that's fell off the face of Chicago, I pay dues yearly and haven't even seen them or a representative at the districts to say why they didn't oppose the ISR reports. Oh wait a minute they don't work the streets why should they care?
I'm sorry.
I had an unpleasant conversation with a neighbor one night -- a conversation, no raising my voice, no foul language -- he just didn't like what I had to say. An hour or two later police are ringing my doorbell, not in a bad part of town. I don't know what he said on his call. It was ridiculous, and the officers promptly left.
Somewhere in The Village...
Another lifetime ago...
> "Uhhnnn! Call 911!
I'se got da bloat real bad!
Lawdamussy!" <
Z13:
"12xx? Ride with fire.
A woman says she has "da bloat."
12xx:
"Da WHO?
Z13:
"Da bloat!"
12xx:
"What kind of bloat, squad?"
Z13:
(Misc. chiming-in about Correctol, Midol, Geritol
and lots of laughter)
"Man, I dunno!"
The best ever was the midnight dispatchers sometimes
signing on with Tom & Jerry-ish theme music...
>Grin!<
"Hiya Boiz an' Goils!
Get yer crayons and construction paper ready!"
Kids in the audience:
"Hiya Unca Wally!"
Good Times.
Weren't we lucky we had 'em?
WHOOOO!
Gonna go pour a double in commemoration.
Wally?
If you're out there, keep cashing those checks fella!
God Bless The Police.
Domestic disturbance with a truant involved and possible theft over. Weapons on the premise, possibly illegal. Sounds like an issue that might deserve some police attention. Might even fall under what you are paid to do, serve and protect.
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Clearly not a cop. Probably from Loevy and Loevy hoping for the stop receipts to come in and start trying to win the lottery. If by chance you are a cop and this is how you think this call should be handled...quit.
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I am a cop and this is how I think. It is why I respond, conduct and investigation and then make a determination as to how to proceed. It is also why the call is dispatched so a determination can be made about a call with a potential to escalate into violence.
Don't respond, respond late, or fail to investigate properly and someone gets killed or seriously injured, then see what Loevy and Lovey does.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Don't do anything. Call Supervisor to scene. Recommend seeing local Alderman or Reverend.
1/09/2016 09:40:00 AM
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Never, ever, call for a supervisor for anything that does not require a notification required by general orders. Nothing good has ever come from calling a supervisor to a scene. Be the police and do what you are paid to do. Make a decision and move on to the next call. You will never regret this advise.
Anonymous said...
Domestic disturbance with a truant involved and possible theft over. Weapons on the premise, possibly illegal. Sounds like an issue that might deserve some police attention. Might even fall under what you are paid to do, serve and protect.
It's not a police matter, it's an issue the parent needs to handle. It's not our job to raise or discipline other people's children. The calls of tell my 10 year old to go to bed, tell my 13 year old they have to do their homework, etc., are ridiculous and not police issues. It's all part of the problem where people have become so dependent on the government for everything, they're incapable of making a decision without the government's input and that includes how to their kids.
1/09/2016 10:52:00 PM
Its a domestic disturbance, its a police matter, its part of your job. Its not a perfect world, if it was your profession would be non existent. Handle the job as a professional and move on to the next assignment. Any domestic disturbance has the potential for violence or death. People have been killed during domestics for such "non police" matters as refusing to do housework, eating my skittles, drinking my vodka and taking the last turkey leg...
Anonymous said...
Changed a light bulb for an elderly woman once, she couldn't reach it. So many quiet, "invisible" people are all alone and need help sometimes and don't know what to do. It's OK, wish I could have done more.
Hate to let the big secret out and spoil coppers' bad reputation, but a little love gets passed around out there too. Got to give some to get some.
God bless all here. Stay safe.
You sir truly are one of the "good ones". God bless.
Sounds like a great idea for a book.
This is not a police matter. This should not be dispatched period!!!!!
"An Orland PO told me about a lady concerned that the deer in the Forest
Preserves were getting wet. She wanted the police to put them in for the night."
1/09/2016 05:43:00 PM
Aww. Bless her. Hope she doesn't wander off.
t's not a police matter, it's an issue the parent needs to handle. It's not our job to raise or discipline other people's children. The calls of tell my 10 year old to go to bed, tell my 13 year old they have to do their homework, etc., are ridiculous and not police issues. It's all part of the problem where people have become so dependent on the government for everything, they're incapable of making a decision without the government's input and that includes how to their kids.
1/09/2016 10:52:00 PM
Its a domestic disturbance, its a police matter, its part of your job. Its not a perfect world, if it was your profession would be non existent. Handle the job as a professional and move on to the next assignment. Any domestic disturbance has the potential for violence or death. People have been killed during domestics for such "non police" matters as refusing to do housework, eating my skittles, drinking my vodka and taking the last turkey leg...
1/10/2016 11:22:00 AM
Not the original poster or the second, but totally agree with the argument that people are becoming too dependent on government for everything. This is more an urban issue, as people who live in rural areas are more self-reliant and industrious out of pure necessity. Those who live in inner-city environments, especially the "minority communities" have been allowed to abuse emergency services that were never meant for frivolous, self-initiated, unnecessary dramatics that occur only because of someone's willful neglect, ignorance, or pure irresponsibility. First responders are not personal valets, taxis, referees, collection agents, delivery services, punching bags, or therapists, but this is exactly what they have been become. Yes, there are those situations where the little old lady down the street needs some help which may fall outside the category of what we consider an emergency call, but those situations are few and far, and we are happy to help and give extra effort in those instances. You dictate that every domestic disturbance is a police matter because of the potential for violence. ANY disagreement or conflict has the potential for violence and how people handle these situations is their responsibility. Being responsible is an overwhelming and frightening concept for many of the population, which is why they readily cast it off on everyone else, especially the police.
Never, ever, call for a supervisor for anything that does not require a notification required by general orders. Nothing good has ever come from calling a supervisor to a scene. Be the police and do what you are paid to do. Make a decision and move on to the next call. You will never regret this advise.
1/10/2016 11:21:00 AM
TRU dat. Follow her advice and soon you'll be a supervisor too.
I would 1B this job so fast their heads would spin
A supervisor should get on the air and code the job 19d. That's if you have balls which a lot of them don't.
Anonymous said...
t's not a police matter, it's an issue the parent needs to handle. It's not our job to raise or discipline other people's children. The calls of tell my 10 year old to go to bed, tell my 13 year old they have to do their homework, etc., are ridiculous and not police issues. It's all part of the problem where people have become so dependent on the government for everything, they're incapable of making a decision without the government's input and that includes how to their kids.
1/09/2016 10:52:00 PM
Its a domestic disturbance, its a police matter, its part of your job. Its not a perfect world, if it was your profession would be non existent. Handle the job as a professional and move on to the next assignment. Any domestic disturbance has the potential for violence or death. People have been killed during domestics for such "non police" matters as refusing to do housework, eating my skittles, drinking my vodka and taking the last turkey leg...
1/10/2016 11:22:00 AM
Not the original poster or the second, but totally agree with the argument that people are becoming too dependent on government for everything. This is more an urban issue, as people who live in rural areas are more self-reliant and industrious out of pure necessity. Those who live in inner-city environments, especially the "minority communities" have been allowed to abuse emergency services that were never meant for frivolous, self-initiated, unnecessary dramatics that occur only because of someone's willful neglect, ignorance, or pure irresponsibility. First responders are not personal valets, taxis, referees, collection agents, delivery services, punching bags, or therapists, but this is exactly what they have been become. Yes, there are those situations where the little old lady down the street needs some help which may fall outside the category of what we consider an emergency call, but those situations are few and far, and we are happy to help and give extra effort in those instances. You dictate that every domestic disturbance is a police matter because of the potential for violence. ANY disagreement or conflict has the potential for violence and how people handle these situations is their responsibility. Being responsible is an overwhelming and frightening concept for many of the population, which is why they readily cast it off on everyone else, especially the police.
1/10/2016 02:55:00 PM
Are all people responsible? Some people work it out, some people kill or hurt each other, some people call the police for help. If there is the potential for conflict or violence in any situation and the police are called they should respond. You dictate-- Being responsible is an overwhelming and frightening concept for many of the population, which is why they readily cast it off on everyone else, especially the police. That is why police are necessary, people are not responsible. It keeps you employed. You, as a responsible person respond to a call and hopefully conduct yourself in a responsible manner.
Anonymous said...
Domestic disturbance with a truant involved and possible theft over. Weapons on the premise, possibly illegal. Sounds like an issue that might deserve some police attention. Might even fall under what you are paid to do, serve and protect.
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Clearly not a cop. Probably from Loevy and Loevy hoping for the stop receipts to come in and start trying to win the lottery. If by chance you are a cop and this is how you think this call should be handled...quit.
1/09/2016 04:22:00 PM
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I hope the first post is a cop. Sounds like a person with dedication.
Anonymous said...
A supervisor should get on the air and code the job 19d. That's if you have balls which a lot of them don't.
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Why do you need a supervisor, don't you have the balls to do it yourself?
Anonymous said...
Start having Sgts roll on those jobs. They get to the door and ask if anyone is injured or has been battered. No? Don't enter. Not a police matter.
Good day, sir.
Signed,
A Sgt
1/09/2016 02:40:00 PM
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Good response dufus, those are not the only two things that merit police service. But that is why you are a supervisor.
Signed,
an Academy Instructor
CPD, welcome to my world. Now you know what CPS teachers go through on a daily basis. Teachers are the parents, social workers, counselors, psychiatrists, etc. Often parents turn to teachers and ask for our help in getting children to obey at HOME, forget school. The madness has spilled over to the police department now… I wonder where it will contaminate next?
one might argue that "snatching" a $400 phone is robbery, a class 2 felony, and thus is indeed a police matter. if the person whose phone was snatched is over 60 YO, it is a class 1 felony.
at the very least it is theft and that is a class A misdemeanor.
arrest and charge accordingly.
NAC
Are all people responsible? Some people work it out, some people kill or hurt each other, some people call the police for help. If there is the potential for conflict or violence in any situation and the police are called they should respond. You dictate-- Being responsible is an overwhelming and frightening concept for many of the population, which is why they readily cast it off on everyone else, especially the police. That is why police are necessary, people are not responsible. It keeps you employed. You, as a responsible person respond to a call and hopefully conduct yourself in a responsible manner.
Correct, all people are not responsible. However, whether a person fails their obligation by choice or ignorance does not relieve them from it. People drag police into their personal drama because they do not feel like getting their hands dirty, i.e. dragging the crazy relative to the hospital for psych evaluation, administering some education on proper manners and respect to junior when he thinks he can run the house, etc. But when crazy relative or junior turns on the police and gets hurt or killed because he/she is out of control during an encounter with police, who is responsible? You already know what the response is from the "family" or "community". Sorry, but "scapegoat" is not in the job description. Making sure others are held responsible for their actions is our job, not taking responsibility for others' actions/inactions. Enforcing laws and investigating crime keeps us employed, not ghetto drama.
According to some responses, the police are responsible for everything under the sun. A 7 year kid not going to bed or a 13 year old not listening to a parent isn't a domestic dispute. Okay, let's handle everything under the sun. While we're doing that, the woman getting raped, the guy getting robbed and someone in a real domestic dispute can just wait longer because of the backlog created by all the bs.
What would be interesting with these as well, is the demographics of the callers. Are all the calls of this sort from the Amish? If so, Why?
Making sure others are held responsible for their actions is our job, not taking responsibility for others' actions/inactions. Enforcing laws and investigating crime keeps us employed, not ghetto drama.
Exactly and where are all these law breakers and non responsible people at, the so called ghetto. The neighborhood that has been turned into the so called ghetto because of non responsible people. it is were the most police are at and needed. Ghetto drama of various kinds does keep you employed.
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