Saturday, February 06, 2016

D.O.J. Document Dump

Everyone just got a letter from the Department in their e-mail. The Department of Justice just got thousands, tens-of-thousands, maybe more of documents so they can "evaluate" the CPD. Among the documents:
  • A list of internal complaints of misconduct against CPD employees, including the employee’s name, date, type(s) of misconduct alleged, name of employee, and any tracking or identifying number of signifier.

    A list of civilian complaints of misconduct against CPD employees, including the employee’s name, date, type(s) of misconduct alleged, name of employee, and any tracking or identifying number or signifier.

    A list of all current or former CPD employees recommended for termination or other disciplinary or corrective action, the reason for the recommended disciplinary or corrective action, whether disciplinary or corrective action was imposed, and the nature and duration of any discipline or corrective action imposed.

    A list of each incident in which a CPD employee used force, including the report number or other tracking number or signifier, date of the use of force incident, district in which the incident took place, type(s) of force used in the incident, and any injuries to CPD employees and/or members of the public.

    A list of incidents in which CPD officers were involved that resulted in injuries to suspects, members of the public, and police officers, including report number or other tracking number or signifier, and date.
That pretty much sounds like all CR files, SPAR files, TRR's and associated files like Taser usage and IOD's.

It certainly would be interesting if someone from the D.O.J. subpoenaed "merit" lists and tried to determine how certain people "earned" a promotion out-of-rank order.

It would be even more interesting to see if the D.O.J. could cross-reference those "merit" people with CR files...and assorted lawsuits at the State and Federal levels.

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95 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://twitchy.com/2016/02/05/s-f-cops-under-investigation-for-turning-illegal-immigrant-convicted-of-drunk-driving-over-to-ice-for-deportation/

2/06/2016 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I chuckle when my kool-aid drinking sgts tell me what that the DOJ is not looking at specific members. Why would they want every complaint, internal AND external then?

2/06/2016 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And of course all the C.R.s only go back 5 years.

2/06/2016 12:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damn the guns, damn the tasers, damn the knives...what next - mace? Cake beaters? Combs? Or (gasp) a writing pen???

I wish the fucking U.S. government was getting the shake down CPD is right now. Will never happen.

--No Cop Here

2/06/2016 12:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No mention the number of event # or contacts with the public in which there are no problems, or all the agg batt to po cases and iod's, etc. That's the red flag it's just for show. That list will soon be foia'd so we'll all be able to see it along with ISR's.

2/06/2016 01:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Got a pep talk from our Lt today, told us to work or quit or retire. Way to go, VR, we're there for you, I'll get right on those ISR's...

A guy on our watch got an earful at a burger king today. I guess the manager thinks cops are all racists and kill innocent people. I might have to start bringing my lunch from home, these people are really getting on my last good nerve.

2/06/2016 01:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again, DOJ is only looking only at use of force. They don't care who or how people get promoted . Or about any other injustice in our bureaucracy .

2/06/2016 01:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will the FOP provide lawyers for you when you are interviewed?
Or will they let you say something stupid first and then try to stop the unfair lynching?
The Fifth Amendment is good for innocent people too.

2/06/2016 02:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time for someone to help the FBI find those "embarrassing files."

2/06/2016 02:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love it when guys get on here talking about how the feds are going to save us .
Hey assholes . ......the Fed's work for whoever is in the white house .
good luck .

2/06/2016 02:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Something else the DOJ is getting in on, making us more broke. Check this horseshit out
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/1306096/3-1-million-settlement-compensate-47-immigrants-denied-jobs-chicago-police-officers
Un frickin believable

2/06/2016 02:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And it would be even more interesting if the DOJ looked into merit people who previously had CR numbers that 'disappeared.'

2/06/2016 02:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Revolversaurus (ret) said...

With this massive document dump the Lynch mob at DOJ are going to be far too busy to indict Hitlary!

2/06/2016 04:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Heartless Taxpayer said...

Where is the list of contracts for equipment and services for the last 5-10 years?

Now that would be an interesting list to go through as well.

2/06/2016 04:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stay fetal.

2/06/2016 05:16:00 AM  
Anonymous 11th Dist King said...

damn!!!!!!

2/06/2016 05:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Would the DOJ be getting all the civilian complainant "frequent flier" information, name, dob, address and so on?

Will this work both ways?

Where officers got their rights violated by slipshod investigations of OPS, IPRA and IAD? I doubt that.

2/06/2016 05:59:00 AM  
Blogger 19thWardBoy said...

I am not a cop but read your blog often. I cannot understand how Chicago cops are expected to do their job under these circumstances. The harassment and political correctness imposed on you may just kill you !
Pro-active policing is a danger to your health and safety, make sure you make it home to your families today.

2/06/2016 06:20:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

I'd like to see that merit nexus myself.

2/06/2016 06:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everyone in the 8th dist keep in mind dingbat Madgian's call for a DOJ investigation when you vote (OR NOT VOTE) for her pops on March 15, 2016!

2/06/2016 07:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think that CPD personnel can trust federal government investigators (DOJ) to do the right thing. If CPD are clean they have nothing to fear from their DOJ and should welcome any investigation.

2/06/2016 07:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats strange because DeEscalante has been insisting that the DOJ isn't going to be targeting individuals.

2/06/2016 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Better not turn anything over more than 7 years old. Unless sustained. Time to think about a "failure to represent" action against the FLOP for not ensuring these things were destroyed. Now that there will be actual damages such an action would certainly fly. FLOP had a duty to ensure they were destroyed, they weren't, and now it's coming to bite members in the ass. Failure to represent.

2/06/2016 08:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will The Civilians complaints name be listed too?.

2/06/2016 08:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is getting deep really deep! Wonder if the koschman crew even the retired will hopefully be brought back into the fold! On the other hand how many great street coppers will get the federal shaft? Unloading on police and Johnny you have your gold star club members telling coppers you have our backs? Hypocritical possibly?

2/06/2016 09:20:00 AM  
Blogger Transmaster said...

Wow what a great time to be a libtard law clerk, being able to plow through reams of documentation about nasty racist cops looking for the jewels your bosses can take to court to sue, and screw with. Wow cares about a Chicago Cop when Black Lives matter a lot.....to make money with.

2/06/2016 09:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wonder how many bottom feeder lawyers will be shifting through this massive dump? Why do we even need iad unit anymore? Get ready to do the "federal march" the guys with the straight ties at your front door at 5 in the morning! The insanity continues,and rahm the gold star elite pension grabbers say :we have your backs!" Sorry don't believe any of that nonsense! Now you are pushing isr reporting in roll calls? The Titanic went down the ship that was "unsinkable" the once proud,respected,strong CPD is sinking fast, rahm you invited all this in! Where is charles Ramsey? $350.00 an hour and it is easier to find Waldo than him!

Can't wait to see what new rules Charlie is dreaming up, for that salary bet it will be monumental, over the top, think he is getting paid more than a surgeon who saves lives, but will Charlie destroy lives? Young coppers hope this give you pause, everything by the book if you don't know exactly what to do call your supervisor log time and date what you were told to do that is what they are paid for! If you are told to call your supervisor say on radio ok go to nearest place with landline hospital etc, no sense to talk police business on cell phone that could bring a red flag on you!

2/06/2016 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only thing the doj gives a fuck about is the cpd violating the rights of African Americans they don't give two shits about how officers are being promoted in this city.

2/06/2016 10:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What no request for Letters of awards or jobs well done?

2/06/2016 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Neither the government (fed, state,county,city) nor the news media nor most members of the public give the least part of a shit about promotions or assignments or whether those promotions or assignments are earned or cloutified. Nobody cares except those of us who tried to earn promotions legitimately.


2/06/2016 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Grabowski said...

If you think the Fore-us Bi-as Just-us department is going to look into transgressions of the "higher ups" in Chiraq you have another guess coming. There is no f'in way Obama or his minions will do anything to hurt one of his henchmen (aka Tiny).

Look's to me like every single CPD officer - both past and present - has the potential of having every orifice examined, being thrown under the ACLU bus or being raw meat for the federal leviathan.

Stay tuned. The shit show is just beginning.


2/06/2016 10:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get over it. They do not care. It is portrayed to the feds and public as a "quiet affirmative action" policy for promotion. However, everybody knows in the CPD it is really a political rewards system.

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It certainly would be interesting if someone from the D.O.J. subpoenaed "merit" lists and tried to determine how certain people "earned" a promotion out-of-rank order.

2/06/2016 10:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The same DOJ that investigated OB-Holder Fast and Furious?
Or the DOJ that couldn't figure out how to investigate HilLIARy, the IRS, CAIR or Planned Parenthood?
For the sake of o'Bongo's pal, Rahm's political future, they will find some sliver of a pattern of misconduct.

2/06/2016 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does the same rule applies to white shirts? Of course not. Blue shirts I think you know what to do. If you don't know what to do then you are clueless and beyond help.

2/06/2016 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yea well I saw this coming 15 plus years ago. Ya still think Im a dog or useless because all I did was answer my calls and give good Police service?

You get what you get when you do stupid stuff.

2/06/2016 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Wanted dead or alive... said...

In 1969 Mailbox Marilyn gave me a finski. I'm turning myself in to the feds on Monday. They may go easy on me if I am contrite.

2/06/2016 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like the DOJ agreed to forego any investigation of hiring and promoting. Why do half a job ?

2/06/2016 12:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't wait till they start reading some of the SOS stuff and interview Radtke.

2/06/2016 12:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If they go after someone on an old CR, can that person go after the city for breach of contract?

2/06/2016 12:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And then you have lt. V.R. in 017 telling us to buck up an go get em!! You are truly out of touch with the troops and delusions. Typical white shirt in his "safe" inside spot. Go pound...

2/06/2016 12:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stay away from burger king at Irving/mozart, white hood rat manager DOES NOT like the police.

2/06/2016 12:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any officer affected should sue the shit out of the city for not destroying any CR over 5 years old. Keep charging hard dummies, we have your back. Make your boss look good so he can get his next merit promotion. Lol.

2/06/2016 01:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Everyone in the 8th dist keep in mind dingbat Madgian's call for a DOJ investigation when you vote (OR NOT VOTE) for her pops on March 15, 2016!




One of his henchmen came to the house with his clip board looking for signatures, I told him that he and his daughter (Madigan) could go get fucked. I suggest every copper in 008 vote this bastard out.

2/06/2016 01:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The files only go back to 2011...or so that's what the notice says....

2/06/2016 02:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Got a pep talk from our Lt today, told us to work or quit or retire. Way to go, VR, we're there for you, I'll get right on those ISR's...

A guy on our watch got an earful at a burger king today. I guess the manager thinks cops are all racists and kill innocent people. I might have to start bringing my lunch from home, these people are really getting on my last good nerve.

2/06/2016 01:11:00 AM
if you let them touch your food your insane! Bring lunch or stop at a place like petes market where they have prepacked hot food, burger king hires thugs and criminals like macdonalds if they don't like you why have them touch your food? I know many coppers "if it is free it is for me" but not worth it. My story came on the job in 1986 27 years old in good shape, ate at a restaurant in 010 district that is still opened was never sick in my life, all of the sudden has massive internal bleeding, made it to Christ hospital coded out 2X, 33 pints of blood hundred of plasma surgery had a pinhole in my main artery in stomach, doctor said not sure what happened but could of been something ingested that left as i bleed rectally and orally! My lesson learned just recently retired never ever ate again at places like this forget the "discount" not worth it!

2/06/2016 02:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Wanted dead or alive... said...
In 1969 Mailbox Marilyn gave me a finski. I'm turning myself in to the feds on Monday. They may go easy on me if I am contrite.

2/06/2016 11:36:00 AM
Thanks Pal, I haven't laughed that hard in a long time, came on in 83 and heard the legend of Marilyn from the old Rush street Coppers a million times. Thought it was BS. the first time I heard it. The story goes she provided her kid with a very expensive education with those envelopes.

2/06/2016 02:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The manager at Burger King on a rant?

If I had to choose of all the fast food places in the world, BK would finish dead last. Their food is disgusting. I hope he was there on a call. Either way, maybe he should "beef" to their corporate office.

2/06/2016 02:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Feed them some good info on the clouted clowns.

DOJ wants headlines. Which males national headlines?
"Eight Police Officers Indicted". Or
"Six Senior Police Commanders Indicted"

Give them the bosses to be Loretta Lynch's chew toys.

2/06/2016 03:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The DOJ is there to vouche and cover for the politicians.

2/06/2016 03:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd always heard about what an obnoxious Do-Nothing Stroke our W/C in 017 was but today he confirmed it. Hey Comrade Valeri (Girls Name) go blowski yourselfski you idiot and don't belittle your whole watch moron. Why don't you try and fire all of us Ma'am and and while you're at it Go Iron A Curtain,you Do As I Say, Not As I Do Coward.

2/06/2016 03:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Feds are Full Of Shit , They"ve been sitting on there Asses for the past 18 Yrs. Obama got them to come on to this one for his Ballerina , Just that its over kill on his part and the Ballerina is getting thrown out into the street SOON ALSO , Rahm is Now on the BIG TIME WANTED LIST by the People. If Nixon can be Impeached believe me this Weasel can be too. So he can say hello to McCarthy when he sees him under the Bus soon LMAO.

2/06/2016 03:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DONT Forget when The Sargent Or Lt. Needs your help or waiting for your help to cover his back . Sit back and smile ,Have some Popcorn Lol .

2/06/2016 03:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stay FETAL my Friends , let them kill each other

2/06/2016 03:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So when are merit packages coming back out to become a sergeant?? It better be soon. I'm a shoe in.

2/06/2016 05:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wait until ACLU transfers "their ISR files" over to DOJ Civil Rights Division: Title 18 and 42 complaints will be filed in federal court against police officers on behalf of the aggrieved party.

2/06/2016 06:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks like they are gonna try to get a few coppers fired.... Start with those guys at special units and call back why don't u

2/06/2016 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Proactive policing is a hazard to your well being--- ie, your bank account, and the possibly of getting jammed up in fed court and prison. Getting fired is the least of your problems

2/06/2016 06:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dating back to when, 1850?

2/06/2016 06:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just read an article about the US Congress disciplinary committee. In 9 years with over 600 complaints against members of Congress not one complaint was sustained. No forms of punishment or censure. Nothing. The freaks out there complaining about cops not being punished for so called infractions should sound off at their elected federal representatives first.

2/06/2016 07:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Get over it. They do not care. It is portrayed to the feds and public as a "quiet affirmative action" policy for promotion. However, everybody knows in the CPD it is really a political rewards system.

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It certainly would be interesting if someone from the D.O.J. subpoenaed "merit" lists and tried to determine how certain people "earned" a promotion out-of-rank order.

2/06/2016 10:32:00 AM

Heh!

Especially the allegedly so talented, smart and too good to pass up people (and folks)
who REPEATEDLY "earned" promotions out of rank order.

Also... The big reveal would by why the department "practice" of NEVER putting your
graded test back in your hands so you can actually SEE where you went wrong/what areas
you're weakest in so you can STUDY and make the necessary CORRECTIONS to do better
the next-go-'round?

... Because they were flat out STEALING exams from Coppers?
... Because they wanted to rig the testing process so that THEIR
cherished, pre-selected, "belongs to somebody" merit dummies
can always be assured of promotion.

... Because any other way would allow too many unclouted,
unattached, belong-to-no-one churls infiltrating the supervisory ranks
of CPD and thus denying that precious layer of protection to political,
clerical, corporate, media, activist and just plain Chicago clout club
"Do You Know Who I Am?/I'm Gonna Have Your Job!" people and folks...

Clout and interference in the Police promotional process = CORRUPTION
tha flows downhill from the fifth floor suite of offices belonging to
the SITTING Municipal Corporation CEO...

That would be Mistuh Mayor, for those of you slow on the uptake.

Destroy clout and political influence?

Then you won't have politically motivated dumb-shit
like the Koschman File Caper, and the intentional
bricking of incidents like the McDonald Shooting in
order to keep a key constituency from getting riled
and leaving the Chicago Democratic slave plantation,
when a certain shitty-assed and undeserving Municipal
Corporation CEO was desperately trying to hold on to
an office that he had stolen from the get-go...

Chicago.
A Potemkin Village on top of a cemetery
dug out of a swamp.

As time goes by, all kinds of ugly things
thought buried go to percolating up through the ground.

Cue:
Rotting political coffins with their grinning occupants
protruding out of the ground at various angles and
mocking the decent citizens as they try to go about
their business.

This city is beyond care, salvage or hope
and The Policeman is being cast as the one to blame for this.

2/06/2016 07:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A few months ago the bosses and the FOP told us that the U.S. Justice Department wont go after us. Now we find otherwise.

2/06/2016 08:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just watched republican debate again Trump speaking out for police everywhere talked about law and order the only candidate that at least talks good about us go Trump thank you Mr. President!

2/06/2016 10:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go out and do the job!

Then wait for the complaint by the very person who called you, or by the person you issued a citation too. No problem, you didn't do anything wrong.

But ah, here in lies the problem.

Afterwards, endure IPRA's bullshit along with the Police Review Board's bullshit. Now, while that's going on, deal with a shaky ASA who clearly has to much to process and too little time to do so right before court, or is to inept to properly argue your case. And then when you believe it just can't get any worse you can sit in the jury room waiting to hear the ASA tell you, you didn't do anything wrong but the judge enforced not the law but his/her biased opinion regardless of video, paperwork and testimony. Don't worry though, after all, you didn't do anything wrong.

But wait they're not done with you. IPRA feels you did do something wrong, the Police Board is gong to fall right inline and the media, well the media, they're just selling themselves so forget about a fair and in partial media. So now your fate is in their hands. How hard is the media selling the news? How bad does IPRA need a head? How scared is the Police Review Board? All deciding factors. But don't worry you didn't do anything wrong.

Again, never mind the facts, your under public scrutiny. They need your head. So, fire you? Thirty days pending? After all you didn't do anything wrong. As it turns out though it's not that bad, so you're only going to take thirty days.

Now comes the lawsuit. The money sharks are out. But don't worry kid, you didn't do anything wrong. How many civil charges are you charged with? Wrongful arrest, illegal seizure, aggravated battery (but you never hit him) and a few more just to make it look good. But remember you didn't do anything wrong.

After a year or two of prep-ing the city either settles or you go to court where countless officers can tell you their own outcomes.

But remember you didn't do anything wrong. Truth be told you most likely didn't. But now lets just add the DOJ and the ACUL into the mix just to make you feel self-assured how good of a job you are doing and don't forget that lawsuit you or the copper you know went through. Sure does make you want to go right out there and risk everything.

Dear public, bosses, IPRA, politicians and Pfleger, you have us wrong. We love the job. It's you we can't stand. From the politicians who have stolen our pension, to you Pfleger who has obviously failed with his Catholic flock and remains in power with impunity. To the many bosses who still push for numbers. Are you paying attention DOJ. And finally the public that looks at us as a lottery ticket.

To you Mr. Mayor or the next Superintendent, no, we still love the job. We just can't see sacrificing our freedom, or our family when trying to do the right thing. So no need to worry. We will answer our calls. We will be polite. We will respond to all persons shot. And we will ensure when we do our cameras and mics are in working order before evoking the four pillars of Procedural Justice to the crying mother.

Good luck

2/06/2016 11:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Escalante better hope they aren't targeting individuals. When he wa chief of detectives he was too busy covering up investigations of his buddies in financial crimes. He's gonna be out soon.

2/06/2016 11:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The 99 cent Bandito down at call back better hope the DOJ never works back on the contact cards he made on citizens coming into 013/012 for case reports, without their knowledge, just so's he could get VRI. With all the CRs he got on other coppers I doubt he'd get any pity.

2/06/2016 11:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The DOJ Document Dump don't even compare to my daily pre-work dump!!!

2/07/2016 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stay fetal.

2/07/2016 01:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A guy on our watch got an earful at a burger king today. I guess the manager thinks cops are all racists and kill innocent people. I might have to start bringing my lunch from home, these people are really getting on my last good nerve

FUCK that. The guy should make a complaint on the manager and report this to the better business bureau. This person is representing a large company and must be professional and provide proper service. Acting hostile toward the police is a no no if you're, at the present moment, working for and representing a company. If the guy is distraught, losing sleep or angry about it he should file a lawsuit.
If people like this manager realized that they are gonna face repercussions for acting hostile and unprofessional toward the police then maybe the police will get treated better but its on the cop to take action. Until then cops make a stand and defend themselves they will be treated like shit by anybody who wants to.

2/07/2016 03:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
A few months ago the bosses and the FOP told us that the U.S. Justice Department wont go after us. Now we find otherwise.

2/06/2016 08:16:00 PM

???

What we were told was the Justice Department was looking at pattern and practice of how CR#'s are investigated not the outcomes. My Sgt has been interviewed this past week on how he goes about it not the outcomes. Sounds like there will be a lengthy G.O. when they are done setting standards. No more two sets of standards one for tact and one for the watch.

2/07/2016 03:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Escalante better hope they aren't targeting individuals. When he wa chief of detectives he was too busy covering up investigations of his buddies in financial crimes. He's gonna be out soon.

2/06/2016 11:02:00 PM

Another one of Emanuel's great personnel choices. How many have been indicted, so far? Three?

2/07/2016 07:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just watched republican debate again Trump speaking out for police everywhere talked about law and order the only candidate that at least talks good about us go Trump thank you Mr. President!

Ever notice how Trump never has any details? Never says how he'll do what he says he'll do. Just that he'll do it.
As an independent with conservative leanings, I'm amazed this dude is so popular among hardcore conservatives.

2/07/2016 07:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go out and do the job!

Then wait for the complaint by the very person who called you, or by the person you issued a citation too. No problem, you didn't do anything wrong.

But ah, here in lies the problem.

Afterwards, endure IPRA's bullshit along with the Police Review Board's bullshit. Now, while that's going on, deal with a shaky ASA who clearly has to much to process and too little time to do so right before court, or is to inept to properly argue your case. And then when you believe it just can't get any worse you can sit in the jury room waiting to hear the ASA tell you, you didn't do anything wrong but the judge enforced not the law but his/her biased opinion regardless of video, paperwork and testimony. Don't worry though, after all, you didn't do anything wrong.

But wait they're not done with you. IPRA feels you did do something wrong, the Police Board is gong to fall right inline and the media, well the media, they're just selling themselves so forget about a fair and in partial media. So now your fate is in their hands. How hard is the media selling the news? How bad does IPRA need a head? How scared is the Police Review Board? All deciding factors. But don't worry you didn't do anything wrong.

Again, never mind the facts, your under public scrutiny. They need your head. So, fire you? Thirty days pending? After all you didn't do anything wrong. As it turns out though it's not that bad, so you're only going to take thirty days.

Now comes the lawsuit. The money sharks are out. But don't worry kid, you didn't do anything wrong. How many civil charges are you charged with? Wrongful arrest, illegal seizure, aggravated battery (but you never hit him) and a few more just to make it look good. But remember you didn't do anything wrong.

After a year or two of prep-ing the city either settles or you go to court where countless officers can tell you their own outcomes.

But remember you didn't do anything wrong. Truth be told you most likely didn't. But now lets just add the DOJ and the ACUL into the mix just to make you feel self-assured how good of a job you are doing and don't forget that lawsuit you or the copper you know went through. Sure does make you want to go right out there and risk everything.

Dear public, bosses, IPRA, politicians and Pfleger, you have us wrong. We love the job. It's you we can't stand. From the politicians who have stolen our pension, to you Pfleger who has obviously failed with his Catholic flock and remains in power with impunity. To the many bosses who still push for numbers. Are you paying attention DOJ. And finally the public that looks at us as a lottery ticket.

To you Mr. Mayor or the next Superintendent, no, we still love the job. We just can't see sacrificing our freedom, or our family when trying to do the right thing. So no need to worry. We will answer our calls. We will be polite. We will respond to all persons shot. And we will ensure when we do our cameras and mics are in working order before evoking the four pillars of Procedural Justice to the crying mother.

Good luck

2/06/2016 11:02:00 PM

That was so accurate, it deserved to be posted again. How the hell did it come to this?

Not a LEO.

2/07/2016 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...


The 99 cent Bandito down at call back better hope the DOJ never works back on the contact cards he made on citizens coming into 013/012 for case reports, without their knowledge, just so's he could get VRI. With all the CRs he got on other coppers I doubt he'd get any pity.

2/06/2016 11:09:00 PM

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I know of a female po that wrote a woman coming off the El who was having a heart attack. PO took her info from the paramedics.

2/07/2016 08:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Merit lists? Please. The Feds aren't interested in fairness.

2/07/2016 08:33:00 AM  
Blogger 30 pending and what said...

In the immortal words of flounder " oh boy is this great or what"

2/07/2016 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd always heard about what an obnoxious Do-Nothing Stroke our W/C in 017 was but today he confirmed it. Hey Comrade Valeri (Girls Name) go blowski yourselfski you idiot and don't belittle your whole watch moron. Why don't you try and fire all of us Ma'am and and while you're at it Go Iron A Curtain,you Do As I Say, Not As I Do Coward.

2/06/2016 03:41:00 PM


If your going to ramble on about some bs,at least give a little insight on what the issue is.

2/07/2016 10:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if DOJ ever looked into merit , we would have a much smoother running department

2/07/2016 10:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As I have said a million times. There is nothing about this job that sets a Police Officer up to be successful. Everything an Officer does is subject to scrutiny unless you have that phone call/chinaman to back you up.

Everything equipment wise is substandard. But as I always say, we are mostly to blame for not sticking together.

2/07/2016 11:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't wait for my first productivity counseling.... EOC

2/07/2016 11:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your threats roytman will ALWAYS take back seat to the threat of losing every penny I've made, my house, my job and going to prison, so just shut up...

2/07/2016 02:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Go out and do the job!

Then wait for the complaint by the very person who called you, or by the person you issued a citation too. No problem, you didn't do anything wrong.

But ah, here in lies the problem.

Afterwards, endure IPRA's bullshit along with the Police Review Board's bullshit. Now, while that's going on, deal with a shaky ASA who clearly has to much to process and too little time to do so right before court, or is to inept to properly argue your case. And then when you believe it just can't get any worse you can sit in the jury room waiting to hear the ASA tell you, you didn't do anything wrong but the judge enforced not the law but his/her biased opinion regardless of video, paperwork and testimony. Don't worry though, after all, you didn't do anything wrong.

But wait they're not done with you. IPRA feels you did do something wrong, the Police Board is gong to fall right inline and the media, well the media, they're just selling themselves so forget about a fair and in partial media. So now your fate is in their hands. How hard is the media selling the news? How bad does IPRA need a head? How scared is the Police Review Board? All deciding factors. But don't worry you didn't do anything wrong.

Again, never mind the facts, your under public scrutiny. They need your head. So, fire you? Thirty days pending? After all you didn't do anything wrong. As it turns out though it's not that bad, so you're only going to take thirty days.

Now comes the lawsuit. The money sharks are out. But don't worry kid, you didn't do anything wrong. How many civil charges are you charged with? Wrongful arrest, illegal seizure, aggravated battery (but you never hit him) and a few more just to make it look good. But remember you didn't do anything wrong.

After a year or two of prep-ing the city either settles or you go to court where countless officers can tell you their own outcomes.

But remember you didn't do anything wrong. Truth be told you most likely didn't. But now lets just add the DOJ and the ACUL into the mix just to make you feel self-assured how good of a job you are doing and don't forget that lawsuit you or the copper you know went through. Sure does make you want to go right out there and risk everything.

Dear public, bosses, IPRA, politicians and Pfleger, you have us wrong. We love the job. It's you we can't stand. From the politicians who have stolen our pension, to you Pfleger who has obviously failed with his Catholic flock and remains in power with impunity. To the many bosses who still push for numbers. Are you paying attention DOJ. And finally the public that looks at us as a lottery ticket.

To you Mr. Mayor or the next Superintendent, no, we still love the job. We just can't see sacrificing our freedom, or our family when trying to do the right thing. So no need to worry. We will answer our calls. We will be polite. We will respond to all persons shot. And we will ensure when we do our cameras and mics are in working order before evoking the four pillars of Procedural Justice to the crying mother.

Good luck

2/06/2016 11:02:00 PM

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Heck, post this a 3rd time.

Not LEO, just a concerned citizen


Very (sadly) well said. Cant imagine what you guys are dealing with.

Stay safe. Do your jobs. Return home to family.

2/07/2016 02:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Merit lists? Please. The Feds aren't interested in fairness.

2/07/2016 08:33:00 AM

The feds only care if the numbers don't balance for the protected classes. How they are obtained does not matter.

2/07/2016 02:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The 99 cent Bandito down at call back better hope the DOJ never works back on the contact cards he made on citizens coming into 013/012 for case reports, without their knowledge, just so's he could get VRI. With all the CRs he got on other coppers I doubt he'd get any pity.

And you reported this right?
You are just as guilty.
Code of Silence...

2/07/2016 03:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When there are no more white police officers in the police dept, people will then stop demonizing the police.

2/07/2016 05:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Gran Torino said...

The liberal Dems and ACLU deserve whatever happens to the Southside. They are creating the unpolicable situation. Parts of Chicago are starting to look like Angola...there you go...a nice maiden name for Englewood and all the other hot spots that most likely will see a pretty large up tick in violence... "Angola" Stay Fetal squared... **Leaves out the pocket of endless fuck you for CPD**

2/07/2016 06:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

POWER. Politics is Power.

This is Power over you.

2/07/2016 08:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
And then you have lt. V.R. in 017 telling us to buck up an go get em!! You are truly out of touch with the troops and delusions. Typical white shirt in his "safe" inside spot. Go pound...

2/06/2016 12:54:00 PM

Wait ... you have a Lt. telling you to go out and do your job. And you're whining about it. You must be a real joy to work with. Hope you aren't working when we need help. Whoops! I forgot. You don't work. Never mind ...

2/08/2016 06:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Angolawood. I like it.

2/08/2016 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RE:017 Surrre, they have our backs!!! Remember when Sgt's were the only ones allowed to carry Tasers??? After a couple citizens had died, many of the SGT's in 017 refused to carry them and admonished anyone calling for a Taser over the air. Do as I say, not as I do is correct.

2/08/2016 01:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
And then you have lt. V.R. in 017 telling us to buck up an go get em!! You are truly out of touch with the troops and delusions. Typical white shirt in his "safe" inside spot. Go pound...

2/06/2016 12:54:00 PM

Wait ... you have a Lt. telling you to go out and do your job. And you're whining about it. You must be a real joy to work with. Hope you aren't working when we need help. Whoops! I forgot. You don't work. Never mind ...

2/08/2016 06:35:00 AM
Not long ago a lieutenant meant something today not so much! you got that nice white shirt, big payday,huge pension dip but respect "not gonna happen!" They say "respect the rank not the person" if the person earned the "rank" he/she could be respected but if not your a figment of your own imagination! The police force has changed, more educated smart officers have joined, not the sheep of yesteryear boss!

2/08/2016 02:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
And then you have lt. V.R. in 017 telling us to buck up an go get em!! You are truly out of touch with the troops and delusions. Typical white shirt in his "safe" inside spot. Go pound...

2/06/2016 12:54:00 PM

Wait ... you have a Lt. telling you to go out and do your job. And you're whining about it. You must be a real joy to work with. Hope you aren't working when we need help. Whoops! I forgot. You don't work. Never mind ...

You piece of shit, I DO MY JOB, this turd is telling us to go "find" people to ISR and telling us we cant do shit right. I'm the first one to back up anyone you fucking retard. You must be a white shirt. Fuck you.

2/08/2016 10:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
And then you have lt. V.R. in 017 telling us to buck up an go get em!! You are truly out of touch with the troops and delusions. Typical white shirt in his "safe" inside spot. Go pound...

2/06/2016 12:54:00 PM

Wait ... you have a Lt. telling you to go out and do your job. And you're whining about it. You must be a real joy to work with. Hope you aren't working when we need help. Whoops! I forgot. You don't work. Never mind ...

You have NO idea what your talking about, I have NO DOUBT ive forgotten more police work than you'll ever remember, I spent most of my career in "other" places, so stfu, I'm also fairly close to retirement so again, stfu...

2/08/2016 10:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
And then you have lt. V.R. in 017 telling us to buck up an go get em!! You are truly out of touch with the troops and delusions. Typical white shirt in his "safe" inside spot. Go pound...

2/06/2016 12:54:00 PM

Wait ... you have a Lt. telling you to go out and do your job. And you're whining about it. You must be a real joy to work with. Hope you aren't working when we need help. Whoops! I forgot. You don't work. Never mind ...

You have NO idea what your talking about, I have NO DOUBT ive forgotten more police work than you'll ever remember, I spent most of my career in "other" places, so stfu, I'm also fairly close to retirement so again, stfu...

++++++++++

Close to retirement but full-on retarded. I had that merit hack, war-story-telling house mouse hack LT V.R. He's a special kind of POS. I won't say that about many people on the job but he is beyond a jagoff. I wouldn't blame a single copper for refusing to bring that asshat activity. I can't begin to fully articulate what type of shit human being he is. But yeah, old-timer, go hump for him and put me on your federal suits, I can use the OT, boner.

2/09/2016 02:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
And then you have lt. V.R. in 017 telling us to buck up an go get em!! You are truly out of touch with the troops and delusions. Typical white shirt in his "safe" inside spot. Go pound...

2/06/2016 12:54:00 PM

Wait ... you have a Lt. telling you to go out and do your job. And you're whining about it. You must be a real joy to work with. Hope you aren't working when we need help. Whoops! I forgot. You don't work. Never mind ...

You piece of shit, I DO MY JOB, this turd is telling us to go "find" people to ISR and telling us we cant do shit right. I'm the first one to back up anyone you fucking retard. You must be a white shirt. Fuck you.

2/08/2016 10:18:00 PM

You're a class act. If it wasn't for profanity you'd be speechless. Nope; not a white shirt. Worked in ghetto districts my whole career and still do. We had a lot of bad lieutenants (and sgts. and captains). We never layed down though because there actually are some decent people living in Englewood and Gresham and that's why some of us became cops. Guess it's different up north. Go to your local Starbucks and chill.

2/10/2016 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who are the top three finalists for Superintendent ?
Years ago rumors were in the news everyday ?

2/12/2016 06:11:00 PM  

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