Hold My Knife!
This is having our backs?
- Just like Escalante stopping at a job, writing up 2 beat cars and 1 sgt for not displaying their beat tags ? Oh, and it was Sunday and he was off duty. That for sure is not a big issue, since these 3 cars had PO made paper tags that didn't last. Its only a bit of paper. But the REAL issue here is the Sup now looking for little bullshit to ding Officers while handling a job. Hard to believe the Head Honcho Poncho (no pun intended)has nothing more important to figure out, think about, look for, than to go after beat tags. A bit of moral support would have been better served !
Evidently Mr Six hasn't called down to Electronic and Motor Maintenance lately, where getting a replacement beat tag is like pulling a tooth. They've actually refused to produce more beat tags for many districts, so coppers are reduced to making paper tags...and we all know how they stand up to a Chicago winter. It must have been too difficult to pull the officers and their sergeant aside, check and see what the deal was, see if the tag dissolved in the weather and why EMMD stopped supplying tags when requested.
Nope, just write 'em up and tell everyone that he has their back.
Nope, just write 'em up and tell everyone that he has their back.
Labels: sarcasm AND silliness
posted by SCC at 12:35 AM
103 Comments:
Micromanagers... what real leaders are made of...
Ummm, no. wait.
Micromanagers: What real pandering Chicago suckup bosses are made of.
There we go, that's better...
If the good citizens only knew how fucked up this department is and has been for awhile now they would be shocked. Tax dollars down the drain. Just like the above thread with the computers the department knowingly ran on the cheap will now cost them more money. Well, maybe they do know but don't care since they vote democratic in this city for the past 60 years. Yeah, that'll fix it. Hold down the beat car in a tax paying neighborhood constructing arts and crafts after roll call. Making paper beat tags! Lol what a joke. Harvey, il. Police are better than this show.
If that's true he is a fool . Talk about fiddling while Rome burns.......
If that's not enough for everybody to say fudge it then I don't know what it's gonna take! Aclu, feds, supervisors instructed to write you up for a spelling error, states attorneys looking to jail you, biased police hating juries looking to give everything you've worked for away, etc. etc. etc...... Wake the fuck up all you go getters.
This guy is great he's there to be the whooping boy until West is named the Supt. It's funny if he thinks he has a chance. In reference to the beat tags, annoy the shit out of dists to get them otherwise griev it
Chickenshit comes from ________!
We are paying for our beat tags...by choice...of course...but rather have one than get gigged for not!
If the Supt is willing to write us up for no Tag Numbers on our cars. Could you think about what he would do if you were in a Situation. And it was him or you being thrown under the Bus. He would kick the bus driver out of the Driver's seat and go back and Forth over you. Stay Fetal my Friends. Just think about the Next time your washing your ass and you are cleaning your ass crack. Just think its the Supt. fondling your ass before he goes deep in your ass.
Ok well if retards would stop stealing them or putting them in their lockers since they claim ownership to them. This would happen. Why order a new one two days later some idiot won't turn it back in.
You really need those stab-proof vests, or at least the hard armor backplates to keep the stabs in the back to a minimum.
The beatings will continue until your morale improves.
A real leader would ask questions before he made a fool of himself.
Or did he just confirm his previous condition?
Leroy dinged a copper for no hat who was in a foot chase.
Holy shit! Beat tags shouldn't be an issue to begin with! Pardon my french, but get rid of the fucking things already!
This isn't the post 1992 Rodney King era department where complaints of police brutality and improper conduct were running rampant and 'beat tags,' were highly sought dark, plastic, designater baubles, that were used in a desperate attempt to keep track of police cars.
This is 2016 for fuck's sake. Get rid of them! What? Is the GPS, in car cameras, and the original car numbers plastered across the side of the squad cars not enough?!
Just another waste of resources in a long line of examples of stupid management decisions that are out dated.
Pay attention boys and girls. A few comments will pop up from most likely Stupervisors that worship these out dated relics as if they were gold. If you meet any patrolmen, tactical warrior, or loser FTO that defends theses useless pieces of plastic crap, please shun them like the lepers that they are.
Leadership!
I'd follow that man to the end of the hall!
I am sure all of you have watched Heartbreak Ridge.
All this reminds me of the Colonel coming up to Gunny Highway and asking him if he thought the "Alert" exercise went well?
Highway's response, "It's a Cluster Fuck!" because his men could not get the equipment without filling out forms and a lot of paper work.
Doesn't all this remind you of that?
Beat Tags?!
We are the Chicago PD!
We don't need no steeenking beat tags!
Why can't we get some sort of discipline put on the powers-that-be for failure to provide beat tags because no where in any order does it say that P.O.s must make their own beat tags. Beat tags are supposed to be provided by the department, right?
So if the radio room doesn't have beat tags available, just hold yourself down in the station making a beat tag, calling EMMD, filing and cutting pieces of black plastic strong enough to withstand the weather. Do this daily.
Having said that. When I came on in the early 90s; for the first 10-15 years of my career, you rarely ever saw a car without a beat tag. Now it's a regular thing. We are getting sloppy.
And the flogging will continue until morale improves.
If it was not against rules and regulations, I suppose we could have our Beat numbers tattooed onto our foreheads. Just keep the same beat for your career.
Now, I.R. numbers on foreheads would be an excellent idea.
Mr. Six is a low down rat. Must be trying to make himself look good but in reality shows what a non fit leader he really is. Coward. Officers here's your write up now go out and get me some ISR for the numbers game. Joker!
Mr. Six is a piece of shit.
At least he will be put back in his place soon.
When the new F-1 superintendent is announced
he will be put back to his subservient roll off
Ed McMahon of the CPD
Many years ago, and I mean that, the late 60's when beat tags came into being, they were clipped inside the back window. I don't know who the brainiac was who wanted them on top of the light bar but I have never seen that in any city that I have ever traveled in.
This is another reason not to do a God damn thing for these ingrates.
And most people think this is a great guy, he is a complete idiot, just who "they"
want to micro-manage, Fuck Him!
First of all, SCC, it hasn't been called EMMD in a decade. Second of all, if the sergeants and lieutenants had been doing their jobs and making sure the police officers did their job (yes, having a beat tag is their job, and no, the paper tag didn't just get blown off), then the superintendent wouldn't have to.
Maybe your Superintendent can do a solid for the taxpayers while he's at it and write some fucking tickets on the West Side for registration and stickers?
What a fucking asshole.
Citizen.
I don't know why coppers accept beat plates made out of cardboard. If you do not have one you are supposed to write a two from and have your sgt sign it then it becomes his responsibility to get you one. Do not forget to keep a copy for yourself. As far as I am concerned I was never trained to make beat tags I stated this to my supervisors and they almost had a heart attack. Imagine that me adhering to general orders and not making their jobs easier. I come to work on time wearing the uniform of the day, it is then the job of the department to provide me the equipment to do my job, car, radio, beat tag, taser,rifle, and in car camera mic and pouches. By the way you can have a beat tag that does not correspond to the car you are working but you need a supervisors permission per general order. Look it up for yourself when you are at work they are referred to as beat plates not beat tags.
John was good back in the day. I guess the weight of the brass was too much for him.
Don't go beating up on Escalante for handling his business. Far too many squads are on the street without beat tags, and it cuts across all districts. Now that attention has been called to the problem, officers and their supervisors will correct it, and quickly. It's been going on well before Escalante took the helm, but the previous Supt. apparently didn't deal with it. And what have the Inspectors been doing lately to earn their keep? A recent pic in the papers of an outdoor roll call attended by the Mayor showed some very raggedy uniforms. It was an embarrassment to see it in the newspapers.
But, no right up for the exempts who screwed up the department computers?
He has future head of street and sanitation written all over!
Between Cline, Weis, and GMAC these clown would never survive working in the private sector and are unemployable.
Whatever happened to electronic beat tags on the mars bar? That would solve the problem. CTA uses electronic boards to display the bus rtes so they can use busses wherever they need them.
Just to clarify for our civilian readers, the Beat tag is the black and white number plate on the roof of a squad car. Each Beat has its own but sometimes they get lost or damaged. Instead of making new ones out of plastic, we now have a computer program to print out replacement numbers ON PAPER. The replacement is then scotch-taped over an old plastic tag. Officers are now getting written up for having no Beat tag because the paper replacement flies away.
Civilians, your homework is to look for the paper Beat tags. Try not to laugh when u see how many there are out there
cant fix computer, cant replace beat tags, nor can you get any proper equipment to be replaced but we need mental training. it appears the retards are the brass at cpd. no matter what training you get, you cant do the job without proper equipment, including hacked computers and beat tags. cpd brass, the mayor and politics = stupidity.
uhhh... what's a "beat tag"?
what a maroon maybe someone stole the beat tag Im glad Im retired
I wonder how other large cities identify which vehicles are assigned to which beat. I have looked for but have never seen anything resembling our beat tags in my travels. I never understood why some bosses are so serious about beat tags. I also never understood why so many beat tags just seemed to disappear. I know some maybe taken as "souvenirs" by some larcenous individuals. More just must be taken by extra-terrestrials. Out-dated item which should be discontinued.
He's from the Class of '86...
Not sure why beat tags are still used (other to make it easier maybe for the Sgt. To log as they're driving past). The car has a permanent 4 digit number on the side of it - that should be good enough.
No beat tags, no cars, no tasers, no working computers, no working printers, no working phones plenty of ISR forms, just another day in the world class big city police department. Welcome to CPD
Cant wait till Great America opens so he can start his SIDE JOB !!!
A guy n the district Bob Villa a custom beat tag out of wood in this garage.... Some sludge bag copper ended up stealing his beat tag
Why not start writing up officers for worn out uniforms and equipment too? Look at their pants and shoes, why pissbums even have better shoes than most cops.
He has your back. Yep, reckon you got to know where the back is before you can stick a knife in it. Now that's leadership!
Boys and girls on the street are getting it from both sides. Oh well, stay safe.
J.J.
This nonsense has been going on for at least 15 years that I can recall. But let's call a spade a spade. These tags are missing because coppers remove them. Plain and simple. For whatever reason. To decorate their garage, scrape snow and ice, or take them from their regular car so THEY won't get gigged, etc., etc., etc. I remember that they even tried electronic beat tags once, but that lasted about 5 minutes. Such minor bullshit with all the major issues plaguing this dept. Eliminate them already.
So much for Legitamacy training.... "be neutral" "listen" "give a voice" etc.....
Nobody got written up, it was in 016 where he lives and it was just an FYI email to the Commander. Nothing more
not true about him asking about beat tags, he stopped at a call,
don't trash the man, he is a good guy
Here's an idea. Get rid of the whole beat tag thing and permanently rivet the outside number to the top. The beat tag is only used for supervisory purposes and for logging cars. The citizens always use the car numbers. Have IT add a query in the system where supervisors can type in an outside number and determine the beat using the car (from their login info) problem solved. Sgts should know who is using what car anyway but in the instance where a car from another Sgts log is on scene, or that instance where a car from another district is on a "uniform adjustment" just type in the outside number and find out what beat that was.
If this doesn't prove Escalante for who he is then nothing will for some of you. In my district about 1/3rd of the beat cars do not have a beat tag. So we just make a paper version.
SCC please don't call it EMMD. EMMD is LONG gone. What you guys are dealing with now is the civilians at the Department of Fleet Management. Not that the old police ran EMMD was perfect, far from it but it was way better than Fleet.
Tool.
bitch move for a merit
Yeah, that's what happened.
The t-shirt police are alive and well, look out boys !
And some still are out there locking folks up and doing ISR'S.....
Big bird for sup!!!
Sadly, its a sign of a insecure person who is over his head and hopes someone will throw him a lift vest.
He should know better, but I guess that he forgot where he came from.
If anybody is written up, it should be 51st street.
I'll bet you the city didn't pay its bills again.
Never passed a promotion test, ever. What did you expect?
Not emmd's fault. You lose em. 35th wants a to-from.
We had a Lieutenant in the ISP who would pull up on a trooper making a stop and park about 1/4 mile away, hoping to see if he wore his smokey bear hat. If not he would write up the trooper for a policy violation. Of course, if the stop turned into a custodial arrest, he wouldn't bother to offer to help out by towing the car or doing anything to make the troopers job easier. He was hated by everyone. Sounds like the same mold as this Escalante goof.
I'm concerned if our Muslim leader takes away our knives how am I gonna cut my steak. I enjoy a good steak while watching the news describe the mayhem and destruction of this shithole city.
SCC this job became too LEGIT, I had to QUIT, so those of you who choose to SIT don't throw a FIT. Just SUBMIT to Mr SIX!!
IMO her is a bit of advice to cover your ass. At the beginning or your tour a request for a tag.
Then make a tag and affix it to the unit. Then take a photo of it on the vehicle. It will have a
date and time affixed to it with the photo. Then if some asshat what's to write you up, you will
have proof that you did what was required of you. That should hold up if they try to dig you.
Johnny Johnny Johnny what are you doing are you insane? Ask Charles $350.00 an hour guy maybe you will learn not to attack the front line troops your done Johnny keeping the seat warm enhancing your bloated pension correct?
Pimp is as Pimp does...
Enough with Beat tag nonse. Coppers don't return them, others take yours Beat tag and slap their paper Beat tag on them. I'm sure that every District has that one P.O. whose probably decorating his Man Cave with them.
And Yes, a paper Beat Tag will not withstand a Chicago winter, or a HOT Summer / Rain day. That's why you continue to affix another new paper Beat tag.
Quit being lazy. Purchase a piece of plexiglass and make your own template and affix it. That will be your own personal tag.
Take some initiative and square yourself away. Quit crying over the department not suppling Beat tags.
The Supervisors from Sergeant to Superintendent are not driving around stealing Beat tags.
I have an unofficial Beat tag, and I have never been written up for it. Supervisor will say, good job as long your car is marked.
5:28 is right about the beat tags,
We had two, one in front, one in the back window. They were made out of metal and held on by spring steel clips.
In this age of laptops and computers, are beat tags really needed?
I never met Escalante ad was willing to give him some time before I formulated an opinion. Time is up. He's an asshole. I really hate so many of these goofs.
Anonymous said...
Don't go beating up on Escalante for handling his business. Far too many squads are on the street without beat tags, and it cuts across all districts. Now that attention has been called to the problem, officers and their supervisors will correct it, and quickly. It's been going on well before Escalante took the helm, but the previous Supt. apparently didn't deal with it. And what have the Inspectors been doing lately to earn their keep? A recent pic in the papers of an outdoor roll call attended by the Mayor showed some very raggedy uniforms. It was an embarrassment to see it in the newspapers.
2/05/2016 07:04:00 AM
You suckhole
A few years ago I saw a guy at the flea market in Alsip with a large cardboard box full of beat tags, #'s still affixed, marked "unbreakable ice scrapers". THAT tickled the heck outta me! I dug through the box and found tags for cars I worked over the years. ��Mr Six!
What is the point of beat tags?? I've never even heard of them until I got on the department.. No other department uses them? Seems like a waste of money to be using these things especially since they are more of a problem then any help.
Do not accept a car without the proper equipment, wait in the roll call room until it's made right. Nope camera, fine I'll wait, flat tire, no worries I'll wait. Can go out without a beat tag, ok.
jeez this guy needs to go back to doing his six flags commercials and leave us alone!
Since beat tags are a "department issue" item, how can we be written up for them not having a beat tag? I've made countless cardboard beat tags and they rarely make it till the end of the tour. Also, what if we accidentally cut ourselves while making a tag? If they are so worried about it, make a set for each district and make the radio people collect them and account for ones not turned in. Funny, still always the beat car's fault. Go ahead and write me up. Suspend me. I will still win. One way or another.
Beat tags are fucking stupid
So to begin tour you spend 30 plus minutes shooting the shit before during and after roll call. You then get to spend 45 minutes looking for a beat tag then another 45 minutes doing arts and crafts to make one since you couldnt find one. When you get to the car you have to spend 20 minutes logging into the camera checking the video and audio and telling your sgt the stuff woeks before leaving the lot. That adds up to about 3 hours of your tour. No wonder crime is down along with isr' and pokie. Not fetal just filling out " neccesary" paper work. But dont worry, you still get paid on the 1st and 16th
Easy peaszy lemon squeesey back in the day the beat tag stayed on the same car all three watches used. The cars stayed clean , cars were filled with gas for your fellow next watch officers now with the car shuffle no one cares
A REAL boss would've ASKED first. Then just tell them to try and keep paper tags on and then walked away and made some calls and got the cause fixed.
Beat tags are free.
Don't be lazy, report your beat tag missing.
Don't expect front office dollies to do it for you.
Document it and make the dollies order beat tags.
It's an easy No Excuse Inspector write up.
Your community is counting on you to identify yourself.
I don't buy this one. Sounds like B.S.
Many of old timers have stated that bosses who dwell on silly stuff like beat tags or not wearing those crown caps to man with a gun type calls were never the police. I'm sure no citizen has ever refused police service for failure to display a beat tag or some silly uniform deviation like not wearing a hat. Seventy-one (71)homicide murders in the traditionally slower months so far this year and the priorities of the head honcho is beat tags. Priorities or adherence to CALEA standards? The acting superintendent is the laughing stock of the department and to law enforcement across the country. So silly. So petty. What a waste of everyone's time denying much needed patrols in the out of control,controlled city.
Sounds like a great parody of Cop Movies:
JOHN:
Riggs, Murtaugh, where is your beat tag?!
RIGGS:
It sort’a melted when the drug dealers shot the car with an RPG.
MURTAUGH:
Yah, and then a house fell on it.
RIGGS:
YAH, YAH I forgot about the house.
JOHN:
Serpico, why is your uniform so shabby?!
SERPICO:
Well it’s supposed to be. The frock is hand sewn beaver pelt while the pants and shirt are also hand sewn but linen. I’m undercover looking for crooked cops shaking down beaver salesmen.
JOHN:
You mean Pimps?
SERPICO:
I don’t like to label people.
JOHN:
CALLAHAN, why isn’t your dashcam operating properly?
CALLAHAN:
Because it’s the ‘70’s and that technology doesn’t exist yet, ASS-HOLE!
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As for the person who commented on officers shoes here is something to consider. Work in an urban district where there are more muddy vacant lots than actual buildings, lawns are mud not bluegrass, hallways are riddled with trash and used discarded diapers with deposits, gangways are puddles of urine, filth is the norm and abandoned buildings. Then complain about your pet peeve about shoes. Don't factor in the broken glass liquor bottles, the discarded debris piles everywhere and frequency which these officers answer calls and actually do field work in this despicable, inhospitable work environments. And by the way when you work VRI, get out of your car and dirty up your patent leather steppers.
Its embarrassing to have untidy shoes, but when you constantly deal with human and physical trash, its next to impossible to keep them as shiny as those as the academy staff, 35th Street administrative staffs, the inside kittens or those working in areas where residents actually take pride in their communities.
Car 13 wears his beat tag on his gold chain. Just saying...
This department has been run into the ground. Hell your lucky if there is any paint on your car. Hopefully it has heat and you don't get shocked by all the loose wires hanging everywhere. Beat tags are useless... Just look at the big ass numbers written on the car. Just like Sunday vehicle inspection.... Useless
It did happen last Sunday on days and all Officers involved were counseled. Mr Six brought into the station for discussion with the bosses.
Does this tool know we can print them (bt. tags) out from computers? So he should not write people up using paper. Get rid of program, ya super tool.
I'm concerned if our Muslim leader takes away our knives how am I gonna cut my steak. I enjoy a good steak while watching the news describe the mayhem and destruction of this shithole city.
2/05/2016 11:59:00 AM
He'll never take your knives. How else will you behead infidels?
I cant beleive you guys are that blind. We dont have beat tags because they are waiting for our new cars. Our contract says they are coming
WOW, what petty,petty bullshit!!! With all the problems in the dept and this is the typical bullshit they pull! Way to support your troops dickwad!! REALLY good for morale.
I'm LMAO since i remember when squads had TWO beat tags! This was before the light bars were installed and the squad had a single Mars light w/ the siren under the hood. The beat tag was on the windshield and the rear window. The tags were hard to swipe since they were attached to the INSIDE of the window. (These observations are from when i used to run away from - not drive - a squad) The first light bars had an actual lock on the beat tag holder (and the #'s were vertical!) but were discontinued since the lock froze up in the winter.
Seems like all the equipment on the once admired CPD is screwed up. Even a $1.00 beat tag. And i remember when a R-Man would replace spotlights, tail lamps, and make minor repairs in the district parking lot!
Retired .38 +P
May b go like Cali, numbers on the roof, painted, can't come off?
Its embarrassing to have untidy shoes, but when you constantly deal with human and physical trash, its next to impossible to keep them as shiny as those as the academy staff, 35th Street administrative staffs, the inside kittens or those working in areas where residents actually take pride in their communities.
2/05/2016 07:12:00 PM
I have to agree with you, but still no excuse for showing up for work with trashed uniform and shoes? I once heard a state trooper say bad things on how CPD dresses. Of course, he patrols the highways in a nice clean take home car and just writes traffic tickets.
Anonymous said...
He's from the Class of '86...
2/05/2016 07:51:00 AM
Nothing good came out of class of '86, I should know I'm one of them! If you've maxed out, get out alive while you can mates!
All the morons suggesting you hold yourself down or sit in the roll call room and pout until you get a department-issued beat tag, please find a new job. You can't just sit in the station for months until the department issues you a new beat tag. If you try that shit even once, and a supervisor doesn't tell you to sack up and hit the streets, then they're even more pathetic than you. This is Chicago. You're not going to have the finest equipment, or even all the required or expected equipment to do your job. Your car is going to have loose wires, a PDT that works when it wants to work, fucked up suspension, ripped seats, and an instrument panel full of warning lights. If your vehicle is unsafe, down it. If it's safe, but lacking all the cool extras, and you can still drive it to your jobs safely, do that. Lacking a beat tag or a working camera isn't a free pass to sit your lazy ass in the station while the rest of us answer your jobs, and it won't work out well for you anyway. You're just looking for an excuse to be a lazy dogass.
Oh, and for the guy suggesting you take a picture of your art project beat tag on top of your car before it blows away, all that proves is that you had a beat tag in the fraction of a second that it took to snap a picture. How does it prove you didn't take the beat tag off once the picture was taken? There's just a complete lack of common sense in these comments.
Beat Tags aren't going anywhere. Hilliard has the contract to provide them as well.
Zippity Do Dah, Zippity aayyy, Gonna makes more money from the City Today!!
Anonymous said...
Since beat tags are a "department issue" item, how can we be written up for them not having a beat tag? I've made countless cardboard beat tags and they rarely make it till the end of the tour. Also, what if we accidentally cut ourselves while making a tag? If they are so worried about it, make a set for each district and make the radio people collect them and account for ones not turned in. Funny, still always the beat car's fault. Go ahead and write me up. Suspend me. I will still win. One way or another.
2/05/2016 04:53:00 PM
___________________
Using your own line of reasoning, it is incredible that you do not shoot yourself while getting ready for the job. Unfortunately, you win and I lose because the department takes care of incompetent and retarded people like you. The supervisors will not write you up because they do not want to deal with you. At the same time, the supervisors will take advantage of the officers who take pride and are trying to do a decent job.
You hit the welfare jackpot by getting this job.
Print out a few beat tags on paper. Get the mafackers lamented. Have 5 extra in your bag incase one gets lost. Problem solved. Not that hard. And if you travel around on rapids, well carry some good clear tape with you and some cardboard to stick between the beat tag paper so its not as flimsy.
Beat tag 101
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Print out a few beat tags on paper. Get the mafackers lamented. Have 5 extra in your bag incase one gets lost. Problem solved. Not that hard. And if you travel around on rapids, well carry some good clear tape with you and some cardboard to stick between the beat tag paper so its not as flimsy.
Beat tag 101
2/07/2016 10:31:00 AM
Not.
My.
Job.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Easy peaszy lemon squeesey back in the day the beat tag stayed on the same car all three watches used. The cars stayed clean , cars were filled with gas for your fellow next watch officers now with the car shuffle no one cares
2/05/2016 05:35:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A REAL boss would've ASKED first. Then just tell them to try and keep paper tags on and then walked away and made some calls and got the cause fixed.
2/05/2016 05:38:00 PM
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And there you have it. If the cars weren't a game of musical chairs every day and if the guy who has the power to 'get things done' would just do it, instead of trying to stick it to the blue shirts, the job would be a lot easier. Common sense, what a concept.
Guys, the FOP said they will negotiate for new beat tags in the next contract just like they did for the new cars!
It will only cost you your 1% percent raise and two years of retro pay!
See, the FOP had your back!
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