Ink Us Up!!!
The FOP wins a gimme:
- On May 21, 2015, the members from the Lodge as well as the Department attended a regularly scheduled Joint Uniform Committee meeting. It was at this meeting that the Lodge was informed the Department was planning to implement a brand new change in policy banning all visible tattoos. Although this issue was never discussed throughout during our Contact negotiation process, all of a sudden the City decided to drastically change the long-standing uniform policy. All attempts to address options fell on deaf ears and the Department was obvious in that they were not concerned with the Lodge representative’s input. The Department intention to just go forward with this new plan was never going to work for the FOP.
The Lodge saw this as a unilateral change to working conditions and we were not going to stand by and allow the Department to arbitrarily harm the affected Members. This matter was sent to final and binding arbitration and a hearing that was held on September 9, 2015 before Arbitrator Jacalyn J. Zimmerman.
We are extremely pleased to report that earlier this afternoon we were informed that the Lodge won the arbitration! As a matter of fact, Arbitrator Zimmerman accepted nearly all of our many arguments. She credited FOP First Vice-President Ray Casiano’s expert testimony concerning firearms safety in addressing the terms of how the changes to the Department policy could negatively affect our members’ ability to utilize their firearms.
The Award reads as follows:
The grievance is sustained. The Employer violated the agreement when it unilaterally implemented revisions to its Uniform and Property Order, U04-01, effective June 12, 2015, banning the display of visible tattoos. The appropriate remedy is for the Department to rescind the revisions and restore the prior policy, rescind and make employees whole for any discipline issued pursuant to these revisions, and to make employees whole for their demonstrable losses resulting from compliance with the revisions. The arbitrator will retain jurisdiction over this matter for a period of 60-days.
There are several other key players who need to be thanked and acknowledged for their cooperation during the arbitration proceedings, including testimony, enduring interviews, sacrificing personal time and demonstrating tireless dedication to making this wrong, right.
Firstly, the SCC blog....
We may have added that last part. In any event, a triumph for logical thinking in that you can't hire under one set of rules, and then change the rules mid-stream. The officers affected were fine police officers on 20 May 2015. Nothing changed on 21 May 2015 except that an arrogant asshole browbeat the pussified exempt staff into yet another abdication of their leadership responsibility to the officers under their commend.
Labels: FOP, info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:33 AM
49 Comments:
Victory, now I can show off my tramp stamp!
OT: Typical, all the problems at Trump rally are 1's.
I love it! Now if we can only wear American flags at work... lol
First issues are on the City!!!! Let's go!!!
So are we grandfathered in?
Do we get our baseball hats that we spent money on back too?
Class action lawsuit. Start pushing back. The city is afraid of getting sued.
How about thanking "Medici" from 009,a Vet who started this by taking this goofy arbitrary and contradictory uniform standard to court.
Can this Ray Casino stroke himself any more ? Geez ! He takes all the credit for shit but does not take calls when, and I say "WHEN", he is in the FOP office . He wont return any calls either . He was also cashing the stipened checks he vowed not to take . He was on the medical for a while so he voided recent checks . We will keep a close eye on him . There aint no way he will win reelection .
Can we wear the baseball caps again?
Nothing engenders trust and a sense of shared duty like ignorant unilateral actions by management.
Glad the FOP won this one.
Notice it still took over a year for the officers to receive justice. Expect your open minded, non discriminatory social justice democrat bosses to do their best to f--- over the police offeicers. That is the Chicago Way.
Has Rahm appealed the decision yet?
Great job FOP!
Meanwhile our pensions are being robbed, the media blames us over political scandals created by the mayor, our policies are controlled by the ACLU, and political hacks promote their buddies and lackeys to positions way above their heads. All while we are out getting our bodies busted up, shot, stabbed and (thankfully not here yet) killed. And we do this all while there is no ability to make movements to better districts/units with out having a phone call, minimal promoting/replacement of personnel, and outright threats from management for "activity" or else! Congratulations boys and girls, I hope it was worth the waste of resources!
Well that's just great .
Now how about funding our fucking pensions .
Do you think we could get Arbitrator Zimmerman on the case to help Retired CPD, CFD & other City Employees save their Health Care Benefits without having to go on ObamaCare in 2017 as is scheduled?
That McCarthy was a real stinker.
win every battle and lose the war
More common sense. I think I an getting a case of the vapors.
A win for the little guys on this job!
FUCK CALEA!
yep one of them assholes is Mcfired. seems he ran into one of his officers at a local coffee shop.actually, mr arrogant was spotted in a local coffee shop( not a big one} and the officer not to be rude decides to acknowledge the rank and Sir ... only a true veteran( U.S. Marine- Semper Fi!!) . turns out the officer works at OCD ,so no need to be in uniform ,but had his vest on because he was working. McFired could've said something to the officer but instead the slimebag acknowledges the officer and no sooner that they parted ways McFired makes a call and the officer was written up for not covering up his ink( he has a sleeve of ink( for those that don't know that means he has ink from his wrist up. and if you're a Marine who has served our country, you can do what ever the hell you want, you served our country!! but nooooooooooooooooo, slime bag didn't have the balls to tell the officer something like " officer, nice to to meet you also god job out there stay safe, hey do me a favor can you cover up the ink" (since the order had already been thrown at us) but instead stab the officer in the back by calling on him to have him written up ..... McFired always was , has been and will forever be an Asshole... i'm gonna get some more ink my self now.... maybe i'll honor the SCC blog... whatcha think ?
Reading the email it says that the abitrator will retain jurisdiction over this matter for 60 days. Does that mean after the 60 days are up the city can do whatever the fuck they want again? I'm happy for the win...just weary the city will try to find a way to fuck us again.
Big Deal, i'm still quitting FOP, they suck!
Two down, one more to go! Come on baseball hats!
Please stop talking about FOP.
They are SO ineffective. If I was a member, I would quit. What benefit would I get as a member ? FOP leadership is just the "waiting line" for the next batch of merit promotions. FOP meetings? Free pizza for retirees and time to tell old war stories.
Wake up. Get yourselves another bargaining unit. Teamsters? Somebody else.
One more thing - Vote Trump!
what about the baseball hat?
Another defeat for the Little Dictator Rahmbalina and the Legacy of his Bronx Bulldog. The complete disregard for Contract by the alleged Democrat Party of the Working Class is a classic example of the Hypocrisy that is Rahmbalina and his Party. If these two are ever put under oath over the handling of the McDonald tape, there can be no doubt that the Bronx Bulldog will roll and give Rahmbalina up in a heartbeat! Baby"G"
Celebrations at Harbour Point Estates!!!
They still look like carnival hillbillies.
Whatever. Just remember bad tattoos last a lifetime.
Since 1980 every presidential election I get and wear a t shirt for the republican candidate. Before I wear it in chicago I have to get into a hostile mind set because total strangers come up to me in parking lots, at jewel , walking down the street, everywhere, and tell me I'm the problem with America, it's people like me who are ruining the country and they are mostly white yuppie types who point that finger - literally- at my chest while ranting- I'm 6 1 over 200 lbs and work out and carry a gun so I don't feel physically threatened , but it's interesting that they would come up to a perfect stranger and verbally assault me because of my t shirt. I'm old enough to have killed someone in my twenties, done 25 years and been let out, or I may be a mental off my meds or it could just be an asshole who likes to fight - they don't know who I am or that I am carrying a gun 100% in chicago even to go to the library. Like the post days... So much for free speech.
Where is the FTO grevience?
SCC rumor has it a sergeant and the po teaching ISRs all got dumped
That's a win for "generation tat" . You can tell who is Gen X and who is Gen Y / millennials based on #s of tattoos.
I don't care too much for tats, but I'll defend your right to have them. Especially everyone who had them when hired, then Garry and Calea decided to change the rules. I'm glad you guys prevailed.
Big deal. Thats what we pay you to do. Now how about grow a pair during contract negotiations and how about the pension issue?
Anyone know if the city can still make those of us with tattoos wear long sleeves within the next few months ? Is the long sleeve policy gonna happen anyway but the city just has to go about it differently ?
Or are we permanently safe from long sleeves in the summer?
Here is the thing about tattoos much like most anything else in life, they are not for everyone but they are generally speaking harmless. You don't have to have them, and you sure as hell don't have to hate them. If you don't like them DON'T GET A TATTOO.
Making general statements about "bad" tattoos or "hillbillies" or any number of other slang derogatory bullshit just makes you an ignorant closed minded asshole.
I can take or leave tattoos within reason, I certainly believe in a sense of professionalism so the subject matter should not be blatantly offensive like gang or hate tattoos, or not able to be covered in a dress uniform or formal attire. However if you feel the need or interest to get a tattoo by all means knock your socks off. If you are foolish enough to put a tattoo on your neck or face or hands then you may have some repercussion of preconceived perceptions and or limitations. Many tattoo artists will not tattoo a face or force a person to really think about such a placement knowing the lasting impression it will leave.
Long sleeves are no big deal, hell if the department would have just relaxed the neck wear requirement during the short sleeve season it wouldn't have been a big deal at all.
This is a pretty small issue in this screwed up climate so it doesn't seem exciting but it sure doesn't need the hate.
Hopefully they can create a reasonable professional baseball hat and we can start to slowly move forward in a progressive fashion.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
SCC rumor has it a sergeant and the po teaching ISRs all got dumped
3/12/2016 09:19:00 AM
Why? For not preaching the company line? I'm going this week.
Actually SCC, they can & do change the rules on the middle of the game.
Came on with a HS diploma, made Sgt with the HS diploma.
Then in 1998 they throw in the 4 year degree requirement to make Lt and it flies.
Of course the Sgt Union was useless.
Oh well, maxed out & waiting to hit the magic 55!
Be safe!!!!
Phil the Thrill said...
Since 1980 every presidential election I get and wear a t shirt for the republican candidate. Before I wear it in chicago I have to get into a hostile mind set because total strangers come up to me in parking lots, at jewel , walking down the street, everywhere, and tell me I'm the problem with America, it's people like me who are ruining the country and they are mostly white yuppie types who point that finger - literally- at my chest while ranting- I'm 6 1 over 200 lbs and work out and carry a gun so I don't feel physically threatened , but it's interesting that they would come up to a perfect stranger and verbally assault me because of my t shirt. I'm old enough to have killed someone in my twenties, done 25 years and been let out, or I may be a mental off my meds or it could just be an asshole who likes to fight - they don't know who I am or that I am carrying a gun 100% in chicago even to go to the library. Like the post days... So much for free speech
Blah, Blah, FUCKIN Blah
Nobody cares tough guy. Believe me.
"Anonymous said...
Anyone know if the city can still make those of us with tattoos wear long sleeves within the next few months ? Is the long sleeve policy gonna happen anyway but the city just has to go about it differently ?
Or are we permanently safe from long sleeves in the summer?
3/12/2016 01:04:00 PM
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The end result if the city is still interested in enforcing tattoo cover-up will be EVERYONE will wear long sleeves. Take it to the bank. That grievance will be a loser and short sleeves will no longer be authorized for anyone. Of course that possibility is only likely if the city still wants tats covered, if they do say good bye to short sleeves.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
yep one of them assholes is Mcfired. seems he ran into one of his officers at a local coffee shop.actually, mr arrogant was spotted in a local coffee shop( not a big one} and the officer not to be rude decides to acknowledge the rank and Sir ... only a true veteran( U.S. Marine- Semper Fi!!) . turns out the officer works at OCD ,so no need to be in uniform ,but had his vest on because he was working. McFired could've said something to the officer but instead the slimebag acknowledges the officer and no sooner that they parted ways McFired makes a call and the officer was written up for not covering up his ink( he has a sleeve of ink( for those that don't know that means he has ink from his wrist up. and if you're a Marine who has served our country, you can do what ever the hell you want, you served our country!! but nooooooooooooooooo, slime bag didn't have the balls to tell the officer something like " officer, nice to to meet you also god job out there stay safe, hey do me a favor can you cover up the ink" (since the order had already been thrown at us) but instead stab the officer in the back by calling on him to have him written up ..... McFired always was , has been and will forever be an Asshole... i'm gonna get some more ink my self now.... maybe i'll honor the SCC blog... whatcha think ?
3/12/2016 06:19:00 AM
That's YOUR PROBLEM the order was out the actions were pending but like 1/2 of the dept. you just go ahead and do whatever the hell you want................ that s part of the reason this job sucks
As an outsider (in LE but not with CPD) I'm wondering what the issue was that would negatively affect officers' ability to use their weapons. Can someone explain or offer a link to the argument presented?
The Hypocrisy that is Rahmbalina and his Party. If these two are ever put under oath over the handling of the McDonald tape, there can be no doubt that the Bronx Bulldog will roll and give Rahmbalina up in a heartbeat! Baby"G"
Nobody I mean , I mean NOBODY puts baby in the corner, not Gary, Not Barry, nor Hillary, nobody. That's Rahmster's mantra everyday as he flexes his ass muscles in the mirror Because Im smart enough I lie enough and I even believe my own lies.
Go tick in head in a bucket three times Rahm and only come up twice.
nonymous said...
Can this Ray Casino stroke himself any more ? Geez ! He takes all the credit for shit but does not take calls when, and I say "WHEN", he is in the FOP office . He wont return any calls either . He was also cashing the stipened checks he vowed not to take . He was on the medical for a while so he voided recent checks . We will keep a close eye on him . There aint no way he will win reelection .
3/12/2016 01:41:00 AM
Not always true. I had a situation and FOP became involved. Ray became involved , was great and took all my calls or returned them. His help resulted in a positive result. In my case he did a great job. Thanks Ray
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I don't care too much for tats, but I'll defend your right to have them. Especially everyone who had them when hired, then Garry and Calea decided to change the rules. I'm glad you guys prevailed.
3/12/2016 10:46:00 AM
Well said and couldn't agree with you more
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anyone know if the city can still make those of us with tattoos wear long sleeves within the next few months ? Is the long sleeve policy gonna happen anyway but the city just has to go about it differently ?
Or are we permanently safe from long sleeves in the summer?
3/12/2016 01:04:00 PM
I'm sure the City will pinkie-swear, if it eases your mind.
In other words, you're NEVER safe from one of the City's stupid moves.
Enjoy this while you've got it. Maybe forever, maybe not.
I still think they look terrible on the officers ~ especially on the neck and up & down the arms....
Look terrible ? There are bad tattoos and good tattoos. Good ones on the arm are fine. Not a fan of neck or hands though.
Many of us veterans have sleeves that are essentially memorials. In no way are tattoos unprofessional. ( minus racist ones, etc ). I have many friends that are the most professional yet violent men anyone will meet and they have plenty tattoos.
No police dept should make them cover them cause " it's unprofessional".
Great Tattoo's at Tattoo Factory, Broadway/Montrose, ask 4 Pauly, a police fan and owner, Thank u police,
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