Just Like L.A.
Jack Dunphy is the pseudonym used by an LAPD copper to write for various national publications about big city police work. He posted this yesterday and the similarities to what we're experiencing here in Chicago are striking to say the least:
- Gentle readers, fasten your seatbelts. We are about to embark on a virtual tour on which you will join me in a Los Angeles Police Department patrol car cruising some of the city’s most crime-ridden neighborhoods. We will be patrolling the LAPD’s 77th Street Division, which year after year ranks at or near the top in violent crime among the city’s 21 patrol divisions. The Los Angeles Times tracks crime in more than 200 communities across L.A. County, and five of the top ten on the list are in 77th Street Division.
That means this is a rough part of town. The following paragraphs are exactly the point we and many of our readers have been making for months now - just better written than we've been able to do:
- In an ideal world, you and I might approach these young men. We might radio for another unit or two to assist us, as the mere sight of our slowing and the opening of our doors might very well set them off running in all directions. What’s more, one or more of them might be armed, or there may be guns secreted nearby for ready access should some rival venture across Avalon looking to settle up for Jermaine’s killing. These and many other things cross our minds as we weigh the possibilities for our course of action.
What do we do? We drive on, for we are not police officers in an ideal world. We are police officers in Los Angeles in the year 2016, and we know there is little to be gained and much to be lost if we get out of our car and engage these young men. If none of them runs and none is armed, if everything goes as pleasantly as things can go these days, we will at the very least be given a load of grief, first by the young men themselves, then by the many family members and other sympathizers who, attracted by the commotion, will soon emerge from nearby homes and apartment houses.
And if one of them runs? Well then we might have to chase him, and if we catch him we might have to hit him, an incident that will be captured on cell phone video and posted on YouTube and, if the footage is sufficiently inflammatory, broadcast on local television news. And if one of these young men is armed and we have to shoot him, and if video of the shooting does not clearly demonstrate that we were fired upon first, we will see our chain of command abandon us and pronounce our tactics unsound, this despite the fact that few of our superiors have actually stood in our shoes. And we might see that video become a national news story, one that will prompt the police commissioners, the mayor, the governor, and even the president of the United States himself to offer their unschooled opinions on the deficiencies of our actions.
So, as we are not fools, we drive on. And if one of those young men should later fall at the hand of a gang rival, or if one of them should venture over to Main Street and shoot some other member of Jermaine’s gang, well then, we’ll go code-3 to the crime scene and ring the area with yellow tape and stand around while the homicide detectives sort things out. And we’ll go home and tell our family and friends how sad it all is, but what can we do?
And now that we’ve chosen to ignore this gathering of street criminals, and after other officers have done the same with similar groups across the area, those criminals will be all the more emboldened to carry on with the behavior that terrorizes their law-abiding neighbors, for the only thing that will deter that behavior is the credible threat of the bad consequences that flow from being stopped by the police while possessing a gun. If the cops won’t act, if they drive on by, the drive-by shootings will only increase.
Anyone in the upper echelons seeing something here? Any media types putting two and two together? Any politicians sensing that appeasing the mob only delays the mob from eventually devouring you? Go read the entire Dunphy article. He drives it home at the end - "Crime is up and will go higher. Don’t expect this to change any time soon."
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
49 Comments:
Standing around while the homicide detectives sort things out? Absolutely not. Try sitting in the car with my window up watching the detectives sort things out.
Gee, I wonder what is happening in DC, NYC, Miami, and Philly?
The politicians, then the media, declared war on the police and - in truth - on authority, in general. For a time, the police stood fast and settled in to weather the storm.
Now, out here alone in a hurricane, the police have been forced to shelter in place in order to survive. Nothing more is possible at this point.
At least Illinois has a somewhat reasonable CCW permitting scheme. In Commiefornia, especially in LA they are virtually impossible to get.
Too bad Californians. You're screwed.
The fact is that the officers do not know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the boys are criminals; therefore there is no reason to stop and confront them.
That was well written and chicago has more murders and shootings than Los Angeles and New York COMBINED.
That's it, no more needs to be said.
The politicians, reverends, brass has turned policing into what it is today.
But...but..."the Ferguson effect has been discredited."
ACLU's Karen Sheley says so.
"Other cities have decreased their street stops and didn't have an increase in crime."
Yeah, right.
Hey, politicians, media and prelates....the end does not justify the means. You fools are playing into the hands of the bad guys. They are terrorists...don't you realize that? You are stupid if you don't see it. Aaa, Yes. You Pols want their vote and be damned with law abiding citizens...you know, the ones who foot all the bills for all you spend. Citizens, get a grip. Stop voting for these fools cause they are causing most of the killings buy their lack of true action to this horrible situation..Police must be respected..without it crime will not go down. Stand guard. The life you save may be your own.
This is a great time to be retired. Until then, STAY FETAL.
Well say, that article is the mirror image of Chicago streets we must Stay Fetal
Well written.
This tale of Watts is an example of a mentality that began with our so called leadership in the White House. Marginal society has been emboldened because Obama several years ago decided the police acted supidly when they saw a guy breaking into a house while driving by. Anyone would have stopped to find out what was going on. The story of the professor breakig in to his own house emerged. He stupidly inflamed the situation with his attitude and the rest is history with the beer garden summit. Obama then blamed it on the police for acting stupidly and that set the stage for the charge of power to the under class. Then the gentle giant was shot dead while in the middle of a second assault on a uniformed policeman in a marked vehicle. Obama responded that the police need additional training dealing with the community. What a stupid asshole. Who needs training dummy? So the hell with Watts and Englewood. Protect your own neighborhoods.
SCC, Thank you and thank Jack Dunphy for saying the things that we are all thinking, but cannot say out loud for fear of reprisal. In the 25 years that I have been doing this job I have never seen it so bad. I was trained by the guys who worked the Convention in '68 and the mean streets of the '70s. I am sure that they would be shocked at the state of affairs in policing, not only here, but nationally. "If you live long enough, you get to see yourself become the enemy." Said Alfred to Bruce Wayne before the return of the Dark Knight. Well, I have lived to see it and it sickens me to no end. This too shall change, but not before there is a body count that will stagger the mind. Congratulations Demo-RATS, you have achieved the world you wanted. Welcome to the new age.
No, the bosses and their pets are too busy cheating on promotional tests to care what we do
I just heard comments from a very liberal attorney who is also a community worker. He refuses to believe that less street stops are causing more crime. He has often complained about these street stops as discriminatory. His reason for the uptick in violent crime? Gov. Rauner has cut social programs so young black people are angry so they are shooting people. This guy really believes this and so do many of his friends with similar political leanings. They just do not want to believe that the ACLU is solely responsible for the rise in crime. My answer to him is that while there were some cops who were too anxious to make street stops and take people out of their cars, now that no one wants to do it, the liberals have thrown out the baby with the bath water. It was a problem that could have been corrected with continuous training and supervision, not these BS laws. But, the other factor was the continuous and non stop pressure to produce contact cards.
SCC,don't sell yourself short.
You are a teriffic writer.
It sounds like every liberal run city is suffering from the same nonsense
Stay fetal my friends
Wonderful. Gangs of youths will rule the ghetto even more. Mad Max anarchy rules. Add another year or two while the youths get used to their freedom and then the real crime wave hits. Shootings galore. Video tape that ghetto. Anyone who can will flee. The "rascist" south will be looking pretty good. Those who are left. Let it burn. In about 4 or 5 years won't be much left and they can start over Detroit style. One problem , do they take the rest of the city down with them?
Wonderful bit of writing that is brimming with common sense and truth. Unfortunately it doesn't fit the narrative of the powers that be, with how coppers are the reason why the Mensa candidates with no moral compasses or anger management skills continue to ventilate each other with reckless abandon.
Amen Brother
Acting Superintendent has only to say that he too has been a victim of racial profiling!
I do appreciate a wordsmith
well said ... here here
The only reason the stops have went down is the ACLU bullshit, this is the only reason. Shame on Rahm and Gary agreeing to it. Of course the ACLU is going to deny their the reason...they love it, now no one is being stopped, this is the way they want it. The new Supt needs to amend this stupid agreement, go back to the pocket size contact cards, and most importantly, prove to the troops he has their back by actions, not words. If Officer(s) screw up and get called on it, go on a case by case basis. If the Officers heart were in the right place when the incident occurred, but they screwed up, minimize the damage. If they do something outright stupid, do what you have to do. I'm so tired of hearing about the retraining of the Police...let's start with retraining the community first. Finally, the ACLU is the most un-American Police hating group in the US..stay as far away from them as you can.
Old Retired Guy
You won't see the media here care for anything other than making a buck. The fact is they love this situation, they want war and term oil because that's what sells. They work here, not live here. So for them these bloody streets and stacked bodies are gold.
Excellent!
Two terms of a communist president and the entire country is in the shitter. His legacy as the Great Divider will be felt for generations. We are more polarized now than at any time since the Civil War. Thanks to all of the subversive scum leftists, we can look forward to a morally bankrupt society that values criminals more than decency.
Unfortunately a story every big city cop knows all too well. Nothing will change unless the pro police citizens get off their butts and run the anti police criminals off the streets when they protest.
I'd wager damn few people have been shot by the police while acting in a cooperative, civil manner. Dumb ass criminals get shot when they create a hazardous situation involving the police.
An asshole may not like his reputation but as long as he acts like an asshole, and does nothing to change, he'll always have an assholes reputation.
You got to wonder why some politicians want to cuddle up to assholes, Hillary.
Stay safe Officers.
J.J.
Cops going fetal coast to coast !
California CCW varies from county to county. Some Sheriffs will issue , others won't.
Do nothing
Do nothing wrong
DLR 785
Ok the new boss says he was a victim of Chicago police racial profiling him as he was a college student, now he is on that bandwagon:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-eddie-johnson-police-superintendent-interview-met-20160331-story.html
Then this excerpt:
Eddie Johnson, the surprise choice of Mayor Rahm Emanuel to lead Chicago police during a tumultuous time, says he knows firsthand how it feels to be disrespected by the police.
Home from college one spring, he was stopped by two Chicago police officers even though he had done nothing wrong.
"I've been subjected to racial profiling, and it didn't feel good," Johnson said Thursday in just his fourth day as interim superintendent. "That's how come I am determined to ensure that we don't do that now. Now I'm in a position where I can stop that kind of behavior, and that's one of my end goals."
So let's under stand the rules "You have to understand the rules before you break the rules it makes it more fun," No isr cards, no stops unless police can visibly see a criminal act correct? If people "Just be hanging" Even with police instinct we should have no contact as if people are stop "It does not feel good!" You said you were "racial profiled" ok boss was it in a dope area? Were your clothes gang type colors? Who were you with? were police called there? So many questions but just to say thank you we will follow your lead no more stops read the tea leaves staying fetal is staying happy!
Anonymous said...
I just heard comments from a very liberal attorney who is also a community worker. He refuses to believe that less street stops are causing more crime. He has often complained about these street stops as discriminatory. His reason for the uptick in violent crime? Gov. Rauner has cut social programs so young black people are angry so they are shooting people. This guy really believes this and so do many of his friends with similar political leanings. They just do not want to believe that the ACLU is solely responsible for the rise in crime. My answer to him is that while there were some cops who were too anxious to make street stops and take people out of their cars, now that no one wants to do it, the liberals have thrown out the baby with the bath water. It was a problem that could have been corrected with continuous training and supervision, not these BS laws. But, the other factor was the continuous and non stop pressure to produce contact cards.
4/01/2016 07:53:00 AM
Let's guess and attorney lives in lily white rich suburbs say like winnetka? maybe a nice gated community with security guards 24/7? as Dr. Michael Savage says "liberalism is a mental disorder" and he is 110% correct! Liberals are nothing more than skulls full of mush!
Very well written. This is exactly what's happening in Chicago and all over. But wait, this is what the "people" want and according to Rahm, crime is down.
I just heard comments from a very liberal attorney who is also a community worker. He refuses to believe that less street stops are causing more crime. He has often complained about these street stops as discriminatory. His reason for the uptick in violent crime? Gov. Rauner has cut social programs so young black people are angry so they are shooting people. This guy really believes this and so do many of his friends with similar political leanings. They just do not want to believe that the ACLU is solely responsible for the rise in crime. My answer to him is that while there were some cops who were too anxious to make street stops and take people out of their cars, now that no one wants to do it, the liberals have thrown out the baby with the bath water. It was a problem that could have been corrected with continuous training and supervision, not these BS laws. But, the other factor was the continuous and non stop pressure to produce contact cards.
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Simple. Ask him to explain the staggering rise in violent crimes in many major cities nationwide. I doubt he'll admit being wrong though. He'll most likely stammer some bullshit about the economy. Cowards. Can't admit they were wrong for tar-and-feathering police and tying their hands.
Sounds like they've got it pretty rough out there too.
The main difference is they don't have a mayor who hopped into bed with the ACLU as Rahm did here.
Rahm's now suddenly concerned with low morale,
Fuck you Rahm...... you can't put that genie back in the bottle now.
Interesting statement in the trib:
Johnson said he was not concerned by the falloff in investigatory stops compared with the old system of contact cards.
"Some of those stops with those contact cards we probably shouldn't have been doing, to be quite frank," he said. "So part of this is to ensure that we're stopping the right people at the right times for the right reasons."
"Liberal attorney" - Redundant.
This is the result of a perfect storm of conditions. You've got the asshole in the White House openly criticizing the police and encouraging and enabling the mutts; you've got police departments across the country staffed up with too many Type A assholes who've been doing their own thing for too many years; a national media that's more interested in ratings than in factual reporting; cell phone cameras everywhere; and gutless PC "leadership".
In a few months the asshole will be gone. Let's hope his replacement has their shit together better than he did. Could he/she be any worse?
Cameras aren't going away. Anyone think politicians will suddenly grow a spine? Or that the media will become responsible?
That leaves the police themselves as the only ones with the real power to rise to the occasion and fix this shitpile. Question is, will they?
This article is quite applicable here also.
If Rahm thinks he's going to suddenly boost morale and have lots more proactive officers simply because he picked a black superintendent..... well Rahm is sadly mistaken.
Rahm:
It was you who decided to hop in bed with the ACLU and sell your police department down the river.
It was you who, while addressing the city council and pandering to the "community", threw the entire department under the bus and then drove that bus right over the entire department.
You can't undo those things Rahm.... you reape what you sow.
Guns in California? This is unheard of.I wonder if any of those guns came from Obama's giving the drug cartels guns in the infamous justice department's gun running program "Fast and Furious". Chapo had one and one killed border patrol agent Brian Terry, who knows where those guns are now.
I like it my chances of being stopped are greatly reduced now I can keep on doing what I'm doing without having to worry too much like I used to before these new police rules went into effect
I can do anything I want without the fear I used to have thank you so much for the new rulesits about time I get a break
Stay fetal?
NOT on my watch!
Go read the EOW summaries then try to look at yourself in the mirror.
You fetal fucks really want the animals breeding in your City?
To the "real" Police, I'll always continue to appreciate and support your every move, will continue to shake your hand and give you a story or two from the old days and I'll continue to slow down while driving past your stop to be sure you're okay.
May God Bless you and keep you all safe!
30+/Retired
That leaves the police themselves as the only ones with the real power to rise to the occasion and fix this shitpile. Question is, will they?
4/01/2016 06:25:00 PM
Silly wabbit.
The only real power is mine.
And I'm an equal opportunity kind of fellow.
Chalkie
Stay fetal?
NOT on my watch!
Go read the EOW summaries then try to look at yourself in the mirror.
You fetal fucks really want the animals breeding in your City?
To the "real" Police, I'll always continue to appreciate and support your every move, will continue to shake your hand and give you a story or two from the old days and I'll continue to slow down while driving past your stop to be sure you're okay.
May God Bless you and keep you all safe!
30+/Retired
4/02/2016 04:00:00 PM
Thanks cowboy, its good to know you have my back, I'm so lost out there. good thing you are retired because its a brave new world out here.And keep your stories to yourself nobody wants to hear them.
More sensitivity training... stop swearing and being so mean. Be nice to the thugs and criminals... the whole problem has always been the police all along. How dare they pat down anyone. More George Orwell 1984 behavior from the Elected officials. Liberalism in top form.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Stay fetal?
NOT on my watch!
Go read the EOW summaries then try to look at yourself in the mirror.
You fetal fucks really want the animals breeding in your City?
To the "real" Police, I'll always continue to appreciate and support your every move, will continue to shake your hand and give you a story or two from the old days and I'll continue to slow down while driving past your stop to be sure you're okay.
May God Bless you and keep you all safe!
30+/Retired
4/02/2016 04:00:00 PM
Thanks cowboy, its good to know you have my back, I'm so lost out there. good thing you are retired because its a brave new world out here.And keep your stories to yourself nobody wants to hear them.
As stated, this was intended "To the Real Police...."
Move along now, no fetal hair gels allowed.
God Bless you guys. I punched out two years ago with 27 & 3@50. Respect, Admiration and Apprectiation for you warriors. Hope the pendulum swings back sooner than later. Stay strong.
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