Sunday, May 29, 2016

A Far-Fetched Rumor

Rumors continue to abound regarding Rahm's intentions to disband IPRA, restructure the disciplinary process and gut the Contract:
  • A fly on the wall reported that the mayor and the aldermen who are putting together the new oversight agency that oversees complaints against PO want a QUOTA on sustained complaints.

    The same fly stated that the alderman want 100 investigators per 1,000 PO'S. These new INVESTIGATORS will be from the COMMUNITY. (Now lets be real here. the city can't afford these numbers). But what does this tell you, that the new investigators will be beholden to their political sponsors.

    Also, the alderman want every complaint completed within 60 days with a sit down with the family of the person killed by the police to explain the facts and circumstances of the shooting. (As of this date, these has been several of these sit downs with family members and their attorneys)

    The public will not have to sign affidavits on making a complaint.(One of the black democratic state representatives will introduce a bill in Springfield doing away with this law)

    Here is the kicker: there will be no waiting time for a PO to give a statement. In other words, a PO shoots someone, he/she will give a statement immediately after the shooting. One aldermen wants to do away with any FOP involvement in shooting incidents. This will mean that when the next contract is up for renegotiations, the mayor will push to gut the contract. Sharon Farley, the present head of IPRA, is setting the stage for some these proposal's.
Stay sharp FOP. Anything even close to these rumors should be dead on arrival.

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88 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not a rumor....a friend of a sibling was in a big hush-hush meeting in the last two weeks about "what to do when Rauner vetoes the pension bill." It's all theatre with Rahm and he's decided we are bit players. He knew he was going to have to pay up and was exploring how to come up with the cash. I smell pension obligation bonds cooking in Rahm's kitchen cabinet. As if anyone would buy them...except maybe the idiots on our board. Lt Maloney? Off. Lappe? Comments?

5/29/2016 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this restructuring going to be along the same lines as last time, where the only thing that changed was the name and acronym (OPS to IPRA) and all of the people remained the same?

5/29/2016 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Officers better get involved. Learn how to lobby and fill out witness slips. Get your family and friends involved.
Then again, three quarters of you could not even be bothered to vote in the FOP Elections.
How many didn't vote in the last city and state elections?

On second thought, we be screwed.

5/29/2016 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cmon what about the rumor bubble head is gonna be forced out as commander of 12 cuz of all the destruction he's done before he plays the iod card.

5/29/2016 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who are you going to vote for in November?

That poised, polished politician who has pandered and promised all to get the support of Black Lives Matter?
Or that loud, obnoxious, uncouth amateur that goes out of his way to meet the police at his rallies?

Which one is under investigation by the FBI?
Which one has promised to support Law and Order issues?

5/29/2016 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like they really want to make sure that PO's stay fetal forever.

5/29/2016 12:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I never thought I'd say this but let the city burn, if all these measures come to pass. Protect yourselves, family and loved ones. Let the bodies pile up. Almost 300 dead and the aldercreatures are worried about less than five police shootings and one that is questionable from over a year ago. Chicago is about to be the murder capital of the United States. If these measures pass, they will be a blueprint for the rest of the country. When that happens society will begin to collapse. Invest in precious metals - lead and brass.

5/29/2016 12:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Mayor and his alder-creatures are showing their concern for the community, and attempting to obtain iron fist control of the CPD. Riots, looting, pillage and mayhem will soon ensue, with such tight political control. Keep voting democratic tickets.

5/29/2016 01:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not a cop but served in the military. Our ass was burned if we lied on reports involving the discharge of a weapon. Weapons are authorized in deadly force situations and I get that but tell the fucking truth on the report. Not everyone is built to patrol the deadly streets in urban areas. It is not being less of a man. But this shit started by some assholes lying on reports and their friends backing them up. Then the city fucks up by passing over 500 million and not taking any of these cases to court. Good luck.

5/29/2016 01:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck Fairley file as many ARDC complaints against the lawyers.....

5/29/2016 01:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm's interns got taken down hard on a couple of shit-starter
rumors they posted last week-end...

They're persistent at least...
No?

This "Far-Fetched Rumor" is just Rahm's wish-list
for what he would TRY to do if the Feds weren't
actively sniffing around.

Amusing that they danked on Fat-Boy Ervin's ass
but hey, it does seem that the elected nitwits
of the 27th, 28th and 29th Wards have been getting
caught off the bag by the feds with some regularity
for the last 35 or so years.

Meanwhile...
"The Police are the problem in Chicago."

The pertinent rumors to pin down would be the
Fed infiltrators, i.e. anyone in the periphery
of Police-Work being done who aren't busy or
don't have their hands filled...

You know... The m/fers watching rather intently but trying
to play off like they aren't.

Someone put up something about observing a paramedic
who was acting kinda off.

Watch these new mystery civilians floating around too...

You can rest assured that the Feds aren't going to
risk putting some of their own in CPD uniforms.
Too much of a chance of them revealing their
fucked-up mindset and anti-streetcop culture
if they get caught up in some street theater.

Thrills! Chills! Squealing Tires! Whizzing Ordinance!

Fed say "Fuckdat!"
They'd rather make their bones pawing through YOUR
underwear drawer for years to come for something already legally and
administratively adjudicated as lawful and justifiable years ago.

WHOOO!
If that ain't a cue to
adopt a hard defensive stance...

5/29/2016 01:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well we should get an idea of what the city wants soon. Sgts are starting negotiations. The contract is up I think this month or next. Fop isn't up till next year. Hopefully Ade won't try to sell us a watered down version of what we have now. I would be happy with keeping everything we have the way it is. I'm sure the city will want everything back they already gave us, which is what they try every contract. Right now protection is worth it's weight in gold. When is Ade retiring?

5/29/2016 01:53:00 AM  
Blogger Cone Of Silence said...

It's a negotiation. They get something, we get something.

If the city is asking for that stuff, they pay us TRIPLE what we're getting now. OR, we'll take DOUBLE the pay and SOME of the city proposals.

PLUS, reduce the City Council to 25 members WITH an IG who has subpoena power vs the aldermen.

See, not so difficult.

5/29/2016 02:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You might not be interested in politics. Politics is interested in you.

The police are the new pariahs. Fight back, get allies, and work together; or get destroyed one by one.

5/29/2016 02:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm will need to find a lot of people for the new oversight organization.
Infiltrate your friends and family into the organizations.
Quietly, carefully, get some reasonable people inside.

5/29/2016 02:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We simply vote down any and every contract offer and let them all go to arbitration in the future. Fuck Rahm and fuck the aldermen.

5/29/2016 02:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those proposals would drop us from second class to third class citizens.
This goes beyond pandering. Why not just give "the community" keys to the city?


The FEDS get 72 hours before being required to make a post shooting statement yet the black alderthieves and "the community" are demanding that we be required to give a post shooting statement immediately??
This city can go fuck itself.

5/29/2016 03:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dean:
I sure hope you've got your ear to the ground.
They're consulting the FOP with all this unadulterated bullshit right Deano??

5/29/2016 03:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And as stated last week;

The mayor will attempt to buy off the membership/FOP this contract to give up contract rights.

Many said this is B.S. however many sources from 35th can back it up.

5/29/2016 03:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Deck is stacked boys and girls. B smart

5/29/2016 03:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've been involved in at least a dozen police shootings in my career as a supervisor. Normally, if the shooting officer had fired more than one shot, he or she doesn't remember how many rounds they fired immediately after the shooting. We only find out when they turn their weapon over to the Mobile Crime Lab. The point is that study after study has shown people in traumatic situations recall facts much more accurately a minimum of 72 hours later. That's why the FBI and the other federal agencies use that standard. If the goal is to get to the "truth," why the rush to judgment? And ... if I was the shooting officer and the IPRA or whatever agency wanted to interview me "immediately" after the shooting, I'd demand to go to the hospital due to the stress of the incident. Then what are they going to do?

5/29/2016 06:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heard the new contract will also gut the medical. 12 sick days a year, that's it.

5/29/2016 07:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Expect all of this to continue unabated, so it takes the spotlight off the fact that certain portions of the African-American community have NO control over their children.

5/29/2016 07:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, will someone name the Black state representative who is going to introduce this bill to do away with the sworn affidavit?

Lets see who this individual is so that we can publicize their hatred for the police and love for the criminals.

Yeah, get something like this passed and homicides will surpass 2000 per year.

5/29/2016 07:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good way to cut down on the pension obligation. Sharpen the axe, and get swinging. If you have 15 - 19 years on, Protect Ya Neck

5/29/2016 07:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, community members as investigators and on the management team of this new investigative agency. Many of the proposals will require contract changes and new or changed state laws. The mayor and the progressives want a completely independent agency with no CPD or police board involvement whatsoever. That is no command channel review, no police board review and possibly no grievance process. In other words, gutting the " just cause standard". They are going to try for everything they can get to make it very easy to fire you or suspend you. It is going to be a cat fight this year.

5/29/2016 07:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The rights in our contract and the health insurance are the two most important issues to us. Dean has already given away insurance twice. Once in 1999 and again in this last contract. Dean will give away are contra actual rights in a heart beat for money. The City can't change things in our contract unless we agree. Fop elections are next year. We must elect someone strong and get active members on the board. It is more than half retirees now. Wake up boys and girls!

5/29/2016 07:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) the capital of murder and mayhem in the country and they want this! Look at the murders and mayhem on the often traveled lake shore drive another killed fleeing a robbery:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-woman-fleeing-lake-shore-drive-robbery-hit-by-car-dies-20160529-story.html

Why no "immediate description of the offenders?" But the war on Chicago police by the elected imbeciles is in full swing! Staying fetal is the only answer! In 2 weeks the rahm crew will be putting over 100 videos online for the scum lawyers and thugs to view of hard working ( sorry formerly hard working coppers) coppers! Hey mayor and the 50 where are the videos of the savage thugs attacking innocent people citywide!

5/29/2016 07:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP needs a disclaimer then.."Regardless of the assertion that these statements are being taken for administrative purposes only it is my contention that any statement given can and likely will be used against me Ina future criminal investigation/proceeding. Because the Constitution of the United States grants ALL individuals a right against self-incrimination in government proceedings, and because the individual seeking this statement is an agent for the City of Chicago, a government agency, I am invoking my 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination." And sorry, they cannot fire you for invoking a Constitutional protection. Oh and sorry, you cannot contract around Constitutional protections either. In light of everything going on if anyone tries to tell me these statements are administrative only I'll call you a moron. These statements are the prelude to a criminal investigation of not the first step in a criminal investigation...take the 5th!!

5/29/2016 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like Herbert is going to be real busy.

5/29/2016 07:39:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

Stay alert Deano.

5/29/2016 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I said it before and I'll say it again, if they're really serious about gutting these hard fought contractual protections that have existed for decades then we need to make it crystal clear that disbanding the hated RESIDENCY requirement both at the negotiating table and in the courts will be the price they will pay.

5/29/2016 07:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like coppers are persona non grata amongst the political left and their favored minions. When the orders come down to confiscate legally owned guns, who's side are you gonna be on?

5/29/2016 07:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Feds get 72 hrs we need to increase ours to at least 48!!!

5/29/2016 07:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about a quota on payments to the pension fund?

5/29/2016 07:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In 20 years there will not be enough police officers in the city to adequately staff the department. Massive retirements are coming and not enough people taking the test to replace those leaving. The reason is shit like this. These fuckers are too stupid to see what they are doing is gonna come around and bite them one the ass real hard

5/29/2016 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the poster that said the FBI will not risk putting one of their own in CPD uniforms, you sir are wrong. I know of two FBI agents that were put through the CPD academy, put out on the street and were working beat cars when exposed. Occurred in the early to mid eighties. They were both yanked never to be seen again when they were exposed. I know another who while he wasn't acting as a copper hung around with us at coppers drinking spots pretending to be a copper fan until he too was exposed. I know another that was working as a tac officer who walked in one day and said he was going to leave the job and become a FAM. He too is an FBI agent. Not sure in the interest of honesty if he was at the time he was with us if he was FBI or not but he is now. Jusy sayin.

5/29/2016 08:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

50% raise and no residency. to work as the police in this city under these circumstances puts every copper in a hostile work environment every day. class action law suit soon to come.

5/29/2016 08:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look at this "press guidance" for rahm's bullshit lines someone at American thinker dug up from an info request. https://www.scribd.com/doc/313823348/Mayor-Rahm-Emanuel-Press-Guidance#fullscreen

5/29/2016 08:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Exactly rumor because most of this will never happen. Again if they srip the shooting wait rule and I don't see it happening especially if it goes to arbitration, after the shooting incident you immediately call for an ambulance and you become a patient, you are now protected by federal laws as a patient and the city cannot do jack shit about it. Also under no circumstance can they prevent you from any union representation at any time, that's a federal labor law, so a lot of rumors here and scare tactics.

5/29/2016 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To all you young coppers on the job, get involved and pay attention to what's going on. This job isn't about locking up bad guys anymore, it's about surviving long enough to get a pension and not going to prison.

5/29/2016 09:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is my OFFICIAL statement:

"I am too distraught to make a statement at this time"

'nuf said.

5/29/2016 09:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lol yet coppers will still do their ISRs for VRI and not wanting to get dumped off their car. Idiots will still sign up for this job.

My ex wife and I are coppers and we talked both of her adult kids out of taking the test. I talk everyone I can out of taking the test.

5/29/2016 09:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is all BS. The plan is that all complaints will be settled at Navy Pier where there will be a series of dunk tanks set up. When an officer gets a complaint he reports to Navy Pier and sits in the tank for one hour. If you are in a police shooting you sit for three hours. Citizens can then go to Navy Pier and throw red baseballs to dunk officers into Lake Michigan. If you are dunked, you are fired.

The aldermen are only discussing the distance/speed required to dunk an officer.

5/29/2016 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very far fetched. Here is the truth, the city is in meetings with various private law firms to be the new review authority. There are not going to be "civilians" from the neighborhood all of a sudden reviewing complaints, the private law firm who the city picks will do it.. They are all "civilians". They have subpoena power, Bobo off the street does not. Pretty much every line of this rumor is incorrect except for the legislation that does away with the signed affidavit, it has already been introduced in committee but not voted on yet. I don't know why I know all of this stuff about what is going on with the process yet the fop doesn't update anyone?? Also, everything about procedures is false because they have to abide by the contract for now which I don't see changing. As long as the fop doesn't budge on it I don't see an arbitrator changing it too mich. also there are no quotas to find someone guilty, it's impossible and they would get killed in court if that was a written policy, I also think it's illegal so that's bunked. Try not to Sink too far in the bullshit guys, have patience and wait for what happens. In my opinion a professional law firm in control of this will be 100 times better than ipra. If you ask me this benefits the police. Professional lawyers, I'm not talking the scumbag civil or criminal lawyers will be handling these. These are not John Marshall hacks or ultra left wing northwestern lovey and loevy types, I think they truly will be independent and will be able to spot BS from a complaint a mile away

5/29/2016 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone who is involved in a shooting from now on should immediately request an ambulance and check themselves in to a hospital for stress or chest pains. No one can interview you then, plain and simple. Request no visitors and consult with an attorney.

5/29/2016 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LetS NEGOTIATE

Lets talk about where an officer can live?

lower retirement compression to 25 years for full pension.

an elected police board?

Certification for IPRA investigator that they must be certified investigator by the state. So basically full fledged Detective school w/ fire arm. (gotta be able to secure those hostile crime scenes.

City pays insurance for all officers to be able to hire any attorney they want in police related matters.

Investigation time limit No more burying officers at 311.

But DEAN thinks camera will save us all and has failed miserable scraping for crumbs. Don't forget Dean and Kilmer thought RAHM was the best bet for mayor and still received nothing we know of in return.

5/29/2016 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
We simply vote down any and every contract offer and let them all go to arbitration in the future. Fuck Rahm and fuck the aldermen.

5/29/2016 02:56:00 AM

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If it goes to arbitration, you can count on losing the medical. Yes, there are too many abusers but the truly deserving will get screwed royally. It could be you.

5/29/2016 11:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They will not do away with any contractual issues. The union won't give it up and an arbitrator won't either. As for the change in the state law requiring a signed affidavit it will go the way of the Dodo, a token gesture to the masses to show something is being done to the big bad police officer

5/29/2016 11:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Might as well be preemptive and start investigating the aldermen and their staffs

5/29/2016 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

here's a plan , assign a citywide detective division unit to investigate all gang , drug related shootings , this unit will be manned by all merit sergeants , detectives
please let the meritorious stars show the city what they are made of , this would be a reality tv show
rahm could make millions for the pension fund

5/29/2016 11:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The same fly stated that the alderman want 100 investigators per 1,000 PO'S. These new INVESTIGATORS will be from the COMMUNITY."

No way around it; I envision getting a summons to some storefront in a horrible area and sitting before a hostile, entirely black panel of "Human Rights Commission, Temple #473."

"De-fund, de-militarize, for us and by us."

5/29/2016 12:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope that FOP is doing all it can and more to ensure that these changes by the city don't contradict our protections . since the city is making shit up to fit its agenda. Next time if I am in a shooting I might just have to shut the fuck up and ask for a lawyer then , i will make a formal statement after my 30 day cooling off period! and not use Herbert as my attorney. Vote these FOP idiots out next election.

5/29/2016 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahmbo won't be involved in the next contract. He's done. 2 years and 11 months. Tick...tick... Tick.

5/29/2016 12:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't sign of for VRI IN July and see who really has the power, greedy mother fuckers, selling out the entire dept for their 30 pieces of silver.

5/29/2016 12:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's already started. IPRA is re-investigating all use of force complaints and looking to get something to stick to jack up their numbers. Cases that have been closed are re-opened and they're trying different angles. FOP has been getting hammered with phone calls to secure legal counsel

5/29/2016 12:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FBI is currently criminally investigating IPRA. Emanuel knows it and the entire sitting is freaking out about it.

5/29/2016 01:02:00 PM  
Blogger Charlie said...

Time for investigations into the practices of Aldermen and Representatives. See where the money comes from and goes to....

5/29/2016 01:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will the dead woman who died on LSD while running away from being robbed be counted as a murder?

5/29/2016 01:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Update: just checked Heyjackass.com They are counting it (female on LSD), it's listed in blue lettering. You are right SCC, Heyjackass has the official numbers.

5/29/2016 01:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do not give up the protections the you have for more money or residency or whatever banana they dangle in front you. Your protections that were negotiated and given to you in lieu of something else you are now ready to give up for more money? More money will not help you if you don't have a job or find your house taken away or both. God, worse yet in jail because you couldnt get your shit together after an incident and remembered something the wrong way. THINK! Even giving away the short amount of time you get before you have to give a statement is hugh! And it has nothing to do with trying to gather your lies. It has to do with trying to get your mind together after a tragic or stressful situation. Don't be willing to give away the farm for a few eggs. This contract will be very important in your future.

5/29/2016 01:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Think be smart the fbi director the top man realized that the media has caused us to be fetal, he also has the paperwork to finally charge Hillary Clinton for lying and for the Americans who were murdered in Benghazi! If you think for a second that your "go get em" bosses will back you,then you deserve the self inflicted pain you have done to yourself and the family!

5/29/2016 01:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A sitdown with the fambily to explain the facts and circumstances of the shooting?

Ummm, how about an app with a bunch of pre-canned responses?

A) Your baby pointed a weapon at the Police.

B) Your baby attacked the Police.

C) Your baby was in the process of attacking others and refused to stop.

D) Your baby was trying to escape from the Police.

E) Your baby tried to grab a weapon from the Police.

F) Your baby tried to run over a cop with your baby's vehicle.

G) Your baby tried to run over a cop with the cop's vehicle

H) Your baby was throwing cans of vegetables at the Police.

I) Your baby was throwing other items at the Police.

J) Your baby was shooting at some other baby's in the neighborhood and got shot by the Police when he didn't stop.

K) Your baby was shooting at the Police, and the Police had better aim than your baby (because they don't shoot sideways).

L) Other.

Now can we stop this nonsense? A sitdown? WTF. Unless the criminal shot by the Police was a minor or adjudged incompetent, the family has no standing in the case. Tell them they can FOIA the report copies when they're filed, and they can go pick up the body from the morgue - if they want.

5/29/2016 02:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well then we better be getting big big raises in place of this. Also more vacation days and P-days. FOP better hold firm but if we give even a little there better be major compensation. Question.....since the beginning of time the city dragged their feet for years on every contract. They could give a shit about it and put it on the way back burner. So now all of a sudden they want to get an early start? Just shows you how they feel about their police department. Maybe they can fix the pension too since they're suddenly so proactive when it comes to the contract.

5/29/2016 02:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think I understand his simpleminded plan,complain about the police to the point that the police don't want to be the police,murder goes up,city is at the climax of destruction,shooting on the expressway,state police assisting,news coverage,ect ect,so now why should I the mayor have to pay into a failed system,a system that is collapsing as I speak,don't I get to keep all this money and not have to pay into their pension fund since none of this is working? Police do your job that's all we ask,don't let his greedy agenda work! Retired guy!

5/29/2016 03:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


And as stated last week;

The mayor will attempt to buy off the membership/FOP this contract to give up contract rights.

Many said this is B.S. however many sources

______________________________

Rahm wants to buy me off? Lift the residency requirement, fund the pension, and give me an 18% raise over four years. That's the price Rahm needs to pay in order to fulfill the "will of the people" by disposing of our contractual rights. Not willing to pay that price Rahm? Well I'm guessing you'll be giving a concession speech next election.

5/29/2016 04:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I got chest pain's, what did u say!

5/29/2016 04:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I said it before and I'll say it again, if they're really serious about gutting these hard fought contractual protections that have existed for decades then we need to make it crystal clear that disbanding the hated RESIDENCY requirement both at the negotiating table and in the courts will be the price they will pay.

5/29/2016 07:48:00 AM

Do NOT trade protections and the medical for residency and/or money.

You will NEVER get them back.

5/29/2016 05:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I call bullshit on most of these rumors..However on some of the other ones, it seems viable. The pols know Rome is burning and they are running out of piss to put the fire out. Keep fetal.

5/29/2016 05:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah go ahead you brainless political scum. Already no one wants this job so who will be the police in 5 years?

5/29/2016 05:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

d...

Ok, will someone name the Black state representative who is going to introduce this bill to do away with the sworn affidavit?

Lets see who this individual is so that we can publicize their hatred for the police and love for the criminals.

Yeah, get something like this passed and homicides will surpass 2000 per year.

5/29/2016 07:07:00 AM


I think it is that State Rep. Kwame Raoul, He HATES the police and wants to take all of our rights and pay away if he could!

If it were up to Kwame Raoul, we would make less then a fast food cook with no benefits! Fucking Police HATER!

5/29/2016 05:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take a minute and check out this link from last week. The Los Angeles police protective league is suing their mayor about their "over site" policy.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lapd-union-lawsuit-20160519-snap-story.html

5/29/2016 07:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny. How interesting. The mayor and alderscum have never given two shits about the police contract and usually wait 2-3 years to settle it long after it expires. It was always so far down on their lists of things to do that it was about as important as getting themselves heated toilet seats for their offices. Now the contract has suddenly become important and they are discussing it nearly a year before it expires. Amazing!

5/29/2016 07:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ok, will someone name the Black state representative who is going to introduce this bill to do away with the sworn affidavit?

Lets see who this individual is so that we can publicize their hatred for the police and love for the criminals.

Yeah, get something like this passed and homicides will surpass 2000 per year.

5/29/2016 07:07:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...


We also could dig up plenty of dirt on that scoundrel of a politician.

5/29/2016 08:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Residency needs to go!!! It should have been gone 30 years ago. FOP are a bunch of fucking morons. That law is only specific to Chicago which is bullshit. We are the only department in this state that makes you live where you work. Don't feed that bullshit line of you knew about residency when you took the job. We were also told that we would get a pension!

5/29/2016 09:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Unions response will be,We fought for your right to show off your oiled tats in this summer, haven't we done enough for you?

5/29/2016 09:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
To the poster that said the FBI will not risk putting one of their own in CPD uniforms, you sir are wrong. I know of two FBI agents that were put through the CPD academy, put out on the street and were working beat cars when exposed. Occurred in the early to mid eighties. They were both yanked never to be seen again when they were exposed. I know another who while he wasn't acting as a copper hung around with us at coppers drinking spots pretending to be a copper fan until he too was exposed. I know another that was working as a tac officer who walked in one day and said he was going to leave the job and become a FAM. He too is an FBI agent. Not sure in the interest of honesty if he was at the time he was with us if he was FBI or not but he is now. Jusy sayin.

5/29/2016 08:03:00 AM

The current "climate" is too fraught with peril and uncertainty
for the Feds to be masquerading as The Police.

They don't take unplanned-for risks.

5/29/2016 10:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dean is about money and his fat wallet which should cause more pain in the future on his knees. For a FOP president who is disabled he can really get on his bad needs fast for the mayor to sell us out.

5/29/2016 11:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope that FOP is doing all it can and more to ensure that these changes by the city don't contradict our protections . since the city is making shit up to fit its agenda. Next time if I am in a shooting I might just have to shut the fuck up and ask for a lawyer then , i will make a formal statement after my 30 day cooling off period! and not use Herbert as my attorney. Vote these FOP idiots out next election.

5/29/2016 12:15:00 PM


Keep beliving in Dean and drinking his cool aide

5/29/2016 11:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time for Ald. Napolitano to become more vocal on this issue. He has been the only alderman to speak out on this "citizen review" process -
But he needs to be more assertive or our viewpoint will not be defended. We know we can't trust Ald. Burke to back us.

5/30/2016 01:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

100s of "investigators " this is nothing more than a bullshit job fair for the community. Money this city doesn't have to throw away

5/30/2016 03:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

State Rep Kawame Raoul... doesn't he have a "criminal background" and/or under current investigation??

5/30/2016 04:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The same fly stated that the alderman want 100 investigators per 1,000 PO'S.

the alderman want every complaint completed within 60 days with a sit down with the family of the person killed by the police to explain the facts and circumstances of the shooting.

The aldermen want, the aldermen want..........

All this coming from a group of people who fought against over sight for themselves. And when an IG was finally created to watch over them, they tied his hands with so many rules and regulations that HE had to follow that it made his job ineffective.

5/30/2016 07:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anti-Affidavit Dems said...

"(W)ill someone name the black state (senators) who (are) going to introduce this bill to do away with the sworn affidavit?" -
Anonymous 5/29 at 7:07 AM

Democratic State Senators Patricia Van Pelt (5th Dist) and Jacqueline Y. Collins (16th Dist.)

Van Pelt represents the area centering on the CPD's (011) Dist. while Collins represents a South Side district that includes most of the CPD's Englewood (007).

5/30/2016 08:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Yeah go ahead you brainless political scum. Already no one wants this job so who will be the police in 5 years?

5/29/2016 05:40:00 PM

"The Community" will be The Police.
Don't you get it yet?

This is THE plan...

Taking public safety out of the hands
of the intentionally out-numbered in the
voting booth tax-payers who make up
what's left of Chicago's middle class.

"Downtown IS BOOMING!"

Rahm wants desperately
for the world to think "Chicago" proper is
within the boundaries of Lake Michigan to
Ashland Av. and Roosevelt to Fullerton...

The inconvenient dispatches from the
pandered-to no-go zones are just that.

Mistuh & Missus Bungalow are seeing
nothing but Rahm increasing the escape
velocity of money from their pockets and
the diminishment of their paid-for share of
municipal services.

Mistuh & Missus Bungalow are seeing that
those services that have been stolen from
them has been "gifted" to the non-contributor
sections of this city as part of Rahm's ongoing
Campaign to relentlessly pander to the loud
and disruptive non-contributors...

Decaying streets. Falling-in sewers.
Gridlocked traffic.
Political Corruption Tax on every
public works project.

The desperation to keep the real citizenry in the
dark about crime, where the lion's share of
Police are deployed and why they're deployed
in such a manner and how many officers are
working at any given time
and other such concerns.

"We can't tell you because then the
criminals will gain insight on our
crime-fighting strategy."

Fuck you craven exempt fools and
the mythic fairy-tail bullshit you spew.

Nary an upright one among you.
If a sense of duty actually existed
among you, a Grand Defenestration
Party would have occurred in a 5th
floor suite at City Hall a long time ago.

The criminals are way out in front of
all your "strategies" because they KNOW
that the Police Exempts and the elected
official class of Chicago have been upwardly
fucking CPD until the current state of critical
mass has been achieved in order to pander
to the political base that the urban
street criminal comes from.

Rahm has told all who aren't encamped with
HIM to eat shit...

5/30/2016 10:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow.....another hit piece by the Chicago Tribune "Editorial Board".....

They advocate throwing out all protections afforded in our contracts, but not ONE FRIGGIN WORD about The jagoffffff mayor and how HE held the McDonald video secret to be re-elected. Not one word either about the madness and mayhem we are up against out there. How many shot so far this year? How many dead? Their big concern was how much WE cost the city in lawsuit payoffs.....which again, we can thank the jagoffffff mayor for....never taking the bullshitt complaints to a jury, just paying everybody off.

FOP better get some really really good legal minds on board....we are in for a long haul...,

5/30/2016 04:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fly on the Wall: I want to clarify the rumor that was posted regarding IPRA. There are a group of Black Alderpersons who are negotiating with the Rahm Administration regarding a new investigative agency overseeing Police Misconduct. The Black Alderpersons gave the Rahm Administration a list of demands what they wanted. What the Fly on the Wall first reported were demands given to the city by this group of alderpersons, it was not the final agreement. The two parties are in negotiations. The city and the alderpersons are negotiating the structure of the future agency that is going to oversee Police misconduct. Will the alderpersons get every thing they want? NO. However, will the city fight the Alderpersons on everything they are asking? No Here are some things that will be included. The investigations will be completed and made public in 60 days. The investigations will be published at the end of the 60 day time period. In shooting cases there will be a meeting between the families of the person shot by the Police and the Investigator who investigated the shooting.(this has begun) There will be no more sworn affidavits signed by complainants. There will be unanimous complaints taken against the PO. Right now the city and the alderperson are in serious discussions on the whether or not a PO can have a waiting period on making a statement in shooting cases. The alderpersons do not want a waiting period. The FBI is allowed 72 hours before they make a statement. Many Police Departments have a 36 to 48 hour time period. The city is aware of the cooling off periods that are afforded to PO from other jurisdictions. As of last week there was no agreement on this issue. There is also a issue on whether a PO involved in shootings can discuss the case with thier partners. The alderpersons do not want any discussion what so ever between partners. There is also a discussion going on regarding the number of sustained cases. All of the alderpersons want a higher percentage of sustain cases. Several have even suggested quotas. Again, the Fly is reporting what was heard. There are other issues that was first reported and are being negotiated as of this writing. This new City Ordinance is scheduled to be introduce on the 22nd of June 2015. As of this date, there is no indication one way or the other whether or not this will be the case. Given the complexity of the issue the Fly thinks there might be a postponement on this new ordnance.

5/31/2016 10:37:00 PM  
Anonymous The Neanderthal said...

Our BCP jokes --

"Downtown IS BOOMING!"

5/30/2016 10:32:00 AM

Downtown, Gold Coast, LSD going "POP POP POP POP POP!" these days, stolen vans smashing through glass doors on Boul Mich to collect designer handbags, etc.

As the "boom" of Chinese-owned luxury condos begins -- here, prophetic cover art from Steely Dan.

https://tinyurl.com/jyozbo2

"The Royal Scam," indeed...

6/02/2016 01:07:00 PM  

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