Civilianization Failing?
Already?
- How's everyone else's civilians working out on the desk? We had one on 2nd and one on 3rd in 015 - both quit within a week of each other. Someone said they are getting paid about $9000 less than they originally were told?? Anyone got the scoop?
(a posted reply)
A few days before the civilian desk people left the academy, O'Neil from HR came to the class and said their starting salary was not the $44,000 they were promised. OOOPS! They made a mistake. Their pay now is $37,000. Oh no! Sorry but nothing can be done. The budget for the city showed the starting salary as $44,000. How does O'Neil make such a big mistake then say it is nothing to be worried about. Is O'Neil that incompetent? Move on nothing to see here.
An e-mailer writes that another civilian in 011 quit after one day. And another says three quit south, but we can't verify that one. Someone else wrote that it was revealed to the civilian clerks that they weren't actually replacing anyone on the desks (those are contractually guaranteed spots) so that when the budget gets cut (and it's coming again), the first ones gone are ::surprise!:: them.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
84 Comments:
Not true. The bid sheet for the job opening said $37,000.
Well there goes any thought of a post retirement job. :( sarc
Beware of the friendly, smiling government person who tells you that they have a fine high paying job, just for you.
The civilian in 016 was a retired copper. He quit after 1 day.
Typical Rahm Emanuel Bait & Switch?
Class action with a big punitive bite taken out of Rahm's
personal fortune?
WHOOOOO!
Would we LOVE to see THAT!
Rahm would let out a netherworldly
screech and tear off that stolen
human skin he's wearing.
It looks like it's been chafing
and itching something fierce anyways...
>itch... Itch... Itch! ITCH!<
"EEEEEEEEYAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!"
The "Reveal" is going to be hilarious.
"...it was revealed to the civilian clerks that they weren't actually replacing anyone on the desks..."
This is like the old CEDA, characters paid to hang around in front of "L" stations wearing brown coveralls.
"This an A or B stop?"
"Uh, uh, ask the agent inside the do'."
Didn't last long -- and wasn't missed, to say the least.
...and the "workers" kept hanging around in front of the "L," as they had been doing for years anyway, free to go back to menacing people for fifty cent, cigarette, light, plastic cup...
$37,000.00 and not $44,000.00??? A 15% pay cut would piss me off too.
That is $270.00 every two weeks. That is a #%€£+!! car payment every month.
Last one hired, first one fired? After getting screwed over on my salary, I would believe that too.
The one in 018 on 3rd watch already has two C.R.#s on him. Calling nice looking citizens who just came in to do reports! Writing citizens tickets! Lol o ya and he can't do any reports but, he looks up all our personal information all day long.
Not only did O'Neil come in and tell them there was a mistake, someone openly complained and he said to the class "Too fucking bad. Deal with it." Why would anyone stick around with that attitude.
It sure is sounding like the city completely fucked this whole thing up.... surprise, surprise.
To be hired at $44K and then after a few weeks of earning that salary they're told OOOOPS what it's really supposed to be is $37K.
That's about a 15% pay cut and is a $7K a year difference.
The city then brought in Don O'neill and the civilians quickly saw him for the major asshole that he is.
Needless to say the city and the civilians are off to a very rocky start.
Civilian on 1st watch in 014 quit after a few days too.
The civilian in 016 was a retired copper. He quit after 1 day.
He quit because of the pay, another because she didn't want to work midnights
Don O'Neill is a jag bag. Karma is a bitch!
"Rahm would let out a netherworldly
screech and tear off that stolen
human skin he's wearing."
7/03/2016 12:53:00 AM
Rauner set him up with at least $13 mil walking-around money. You don't honestly think he's going to go out with less, do you?
Gotta go. 5:38 AM and I have to call my "college advisor" in another time zone...
Someone's dog gets the runs and there's 18 videos of it posted within moments. Alarming people who don't look anything like your "advisor" show up to meet you across the street from a whole 24-hour security detail and not a thing, huh?
Snowflakes take another hit, and "private physicians" rush to attend, no ten-hour wait in the ER for a fat lip. I'm still laughing.
006 midnight civilian quit after 2 shifts
"he can't do any reports but, he looks up all our personal information all day long."
7/03/2016 02:35:00 AM
This is old by now. Which means Chicago has no idea. Superglue the USB ports on his box. No dumps to pen drives. And check on any outgoing account/e-mail/etc. he may have. Anything going out to "cloud storage" account under username ***???*** Any syncs between dept. box and someone's smartphone?
CPD do a faceplant before it figures out don't hire BLM or Al Quaida or something as supernumeraries.
Don O'Neil is one of the biggest assholes not only in cpd, but in the city. If you ever get stripped then get your police powers back, HR returns your star/shield. O'Neil will tell you that you are a disgrace and how you should have been fired. He doesn't care that maybe you just got screwed. He goes out of his way to belittle you. Coming from a double-dipping merit hack it's almost pathetic. Then again, he was a jag in 009 as a sarge and his clout gave him that arrogance. Wanna piss him off? Get a CR# on him when his department screws up. Guess a patrolman from 006 did over bad paperwork and O'Neil flipped! A civilian first taste of cpd is O'Neil, I'd quit too
The original starting salary was $37K which was online on the city's HR site. They at some point while training received an erroneous document that was required to be signed and it had the $44K listed on it, so they walked in the door knowing it was $37K. One retired PO quit because he couldn't draw his police pension and a city salary at the same time, not sure what union they are under, he finished training and quit. Can't blame him because D. O'Neill is drawing $100K+ pension plus director salary. Not sure why you would take the job as a retired PO and work a day off group, Tues/Wed and possibly midnights. I assume these retired guys were doing it for the insurance. Plus after seeing some of the hires I knew that the attrition rate would be over 50% if not higher. I'm sure there are some good ones but maybe 10% of those hired.
Im surprised that the Deptartment of Justice
hasn't quit yet. It boggles my mind how
DUMB the people making decisions for
this dept. are. They are making this police deptartment
a total embarrassment to the country.
How can our superiors keep screwing up so bad.? I use to like wearing
my "uniform" and going to work to have fun.
Now? I want to throw this blue collar rag in
in the trash or use it to warsh my bum. I AM EMBARRASSED TO BE
employed by this dept. I listen to a lot of you coppers rant and rave
with great ideas through the use of something called common sense.
But no one will listen or even look our way. You guys on this blog and
through out the districts have awesome ideas. Oh and by the way MEDIA
STROKES.......we do not have12,000 officers!!!! Actually, how many do we have??? 9k-ish?
I know we dont have many smart bosses left. Ok im out of breath..
Why are they working anyway. whey they can just get on the Obama Money Train?
2015 - Tweet from the Rhode Island Center for Freedom and Prosperity
Rhode Island's minimum wage just rose to $9 an hour. There's a push by Democrats to raise the federal minimum wage from $7.25 to $10.10.
That’s chump change if you believe a Jan. 10 tweet by the Rhode Island Center for Freedom and Prosperity. It said you can earn the equivalent of $20.83 an hour by not working and being on welfare.
The conservative think tank reported: "RI should make working more attractive than welfare! Common welfare programs give income of $43,330 or $20.83 an hour."
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Our civilian told us 15 have quit so far...:)
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not true. The bid sheet for the job opening said $37,000.
7/03/2016 12:06:00 AM
Of course it did...
Oh wait...
The REVISED one, not the ORIGINAL.
Right?
Here's to Rahm and Slick Don both being
on the horns of hefty punitive damages
when that flaming lawsuit jumps the curb
and crashes through their front doors.
Dirty, double-dealing, greasy-talking
mis-mothered fucks the both of ya...
O'neil is an incompetent buffoon!
Tell this mope to go retire already!
OOPS! O'Neill did retire and now is double dipping as a civilian himself!
Stupid Chicago and stupid media for eating up this bullshit!
Clusterfuck.
Must be cloudy on the brain, had a stroke and came back the next day. Craving power I guess.
That the city would completely fuck this up should not come as a surprise to anyone.
You should see the hood rats they have working in 003. Seems to me they hired people from the community. And these people have access to our database? What a disgrace this city has become. How soon will some of their thug family members start asking them to do them "favors"... Of course there's plenty of cops who we can say the same thing about!
The 2 in 007 3rd watch were looking at arrest reports reading the narratives and
Looking at charges. They were in the 7th district arrest que! No business looking at
That stuff. WTF
Not only did O'Neil come in and tell them there was a mistake, someone openly complained and he said to the class "Too fucking bad. Deal with it." Why would anyone stick around with that attitude.
O'Neil would never use the "f" word....
Anonymous said...
Not true. The bid sheet for the job opening said $37,000.
7/03/2016 12:06:00 AM
I would think so. When you are hired for a job, if you are smart, you always ask for a " hiring letter" which spells out your salary and benefits. I you do not do this then you are truly a dumb ass. But, in the case of the city, they usually post the requirements for the job and pay and benefits. If you accept the job, the officer of the company is an enforceable contract.
I recently retired from CPD, was interviewed they are insane wanting to paid coppers such a pittance for a full time stressful job dealing with the savage animals in and out, doing anything for them demanding pos is insanity! Found a part-time job paying the same as the city wanted to pay full time, 2 days a week less stress.
On another note looks like we will see how much of a true honest law enforcement man the head of the FBI says he is, James Comey has the ball to bring the proper felonious criminal charges against 1 of the heads of the Clinton crime cabal:
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/286349-fbi-director-takes-center-stage-in-clinton-email-case
Will obamas girl Loretta lynch who supports Hillary make comey beg to keep his spot or will Comey do the correct thing and indict her? lynch met will bill clinton privately on her government (taxpayers plane) for a 30 minute conversation about grandchildren and golf lynch says! Will the fix be in? This hillary same person who does not support police,and according the the acclaimed book written and recently released by a retired secret service agent "crisis of character" what she does to disgrace and put down people that protect her such as when a secret service officer tells her "hello" she puts up her middle finger and says to him "F**k you", then when she walks down the halls the lead secret service agent has to go ahead of her and make all law enforcement and agents hide in closets or wherever we disgust her!This agent Byrne that wrote this book is to be applauded taking a stand a great read, now director Comey do the right thing!
Another bright idea by the Masterminds who run the City and the Department. Dummycrats strike again, more Tax Dollars Wasted on Nonsense. Hire back retired CPD, as part-time, sworn, and able to be used anywhere, anytime.
Guy walked up to civilian on desk in 022 and said he shot someone... And the gun he used was in his pocket. Not really worth 37k a year .
The people that have interviewed to be Nurse/Case Managers at the Medical Section all balked at the case load (about double what is considered heavy in the real world) and the pay which is 30%-40% less than a comparable job in the private sector.
Once again, the City trying to do things on the cheap comes back to bite them
Haven't seen the one in 014 for a few days. It's all hush hush.
More Stupid Ideas by more Stupid People. The City that Works, LOL...
Dub'L Dip O'Neil is pocketing the difference.
Is the Bobblehead Employment Agency still accepting application fees for these positions too?
With few jobs in the economy today $37k is not bad. Guess nobody wants to work. Picky picky picky.
That's why only former police should apply. They are already immune to all the bullshit these ass clowns that run it have done and will try to get away with.
The payroll code for the Police Administrative Clerk position is 9016. The payroll code for the Police Aide position that was eliminated about 15 years ago is 9016. The bid announcement for the Police Administrative Clerk showed a salary of $37,000. The $44,820 salary appears in the City Budget under payroll code 9016 and was supposed to have been approved by City Council in March of 2016 with 150 positions approved. Why the $44000 was approved for 150 positions that supposedly no longer exists couldn't be explained by O'Neil. Someone made an error of $1,050,000. That's a pretty big Oops.
One came up to me and questioned why she didn't have access to some things!! Really?? Bc you are not the Police! Is it really a good idea for them to handle inventories and read our arrests ?? Smh.
Civilian in 14 quit. They were promised days. They were put on midnights cause they've been dangerously short for years on that watch. She didn't know how to do anything. She worked 4-5 days and quit. What a joke.
Lol. Wow this city sucks.
Thanks Rahm for destroying my city.
Not surprising. O'Neil was a major stroke as the Cmdr of MLAS, so it stands to reason he would continue his streak of incompetence right over into his (new) civilian role as Director of incompetence! OMG, it's like it's LADNER all over again!
Only the best and brightest (end sarcasm) after a NATIONWIDE SEARCH.
The people that have interviewed to be Nurse/Case Managers at the Medical Section all balked at the case load (about double what is considered heavy in the real world) and the pay which is 30%-40% less than a comparable job in the private sector.
Once again, the City trying to do things on the cheap comes back to bite them
7/03/2016 12:06:00 PM
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True! We pay lots for insurance through blue cross , and yet the city hires a 3rd party- Taligen to pay for lesser services. I was recently in the hospital & everyone at hospital said oh you guys have good insurance, yet when the claims are filed/submitted during hospital stay, this Taligen seems to think that as serious as illness was, I should've been discharged to receive critical treatment at home. All because the shitty city wants to cut $$wherever /whenever they can. My health is 1st & foremost and these jags wanted to discharge me. God forbid It had gotten worse because of some infection all because the premium $$we pay for insurance was undercut by the city who wants to save. Compromise our safety and in this case my health so you be cheap asses. Fuck you city! ***on a side note , my time in the hospital was 1st time in my career I've had to really use insurance and what a slap in the face.
Anonymous said...
Guy walked up to civilian on desk in 022 and said he shot someone... And the gun he used was in his pocket. Not really worth 37k a year .
7/03/2016 12:02:00 PM
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You are definitely a patrol officer because to are just too dumb.
The civilian employee would not handle that one. A police officer would have to handle it. So, the civilian employee would handle that one. Seriously? What did you think was going to happen?
An Academy Instructor
Anonymous said...
I recently retired from CPD, was interviewed they are insane wanting to paid coppers such a pittance for a full time stressful job dealing with the savage animals in and out, doing anything for them demanding pos is insanity! Found a part-time job paying the same as the city wanted to pay full time, 2 days a week less stress.
On another note looks like we will see how much of a true honest law enforcement man the head of the FBI says he is, James Comey has the ball to bring the proper felonious criminal charges against 1 of the heads of the Clinton crime cabal:
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/286349-fbi-director-takes-center-stage-in-clinton-email-case
Will obamas girl Loretta lynch who supports Hillary make comey beg to keep his spot or will Comey do the correct thing and indict her? lynch met will bill clinton privately on her government (taxpayers plane) for a 30 minute conversation about grandchildren and golf lynch says! Will the fix be in? This hillary same person who does not support police,and according the the acclaimed book written and recently released by a retired secret service agent "crisis of character" what she does to disgrace and put down people that protect her such as when a secret service officer tells her "hello" she puts up her middle finger and says to him "F**k you", then when she walks down the halls the lead secret service agent has to go ahead of her and make all law enforcement and agents hide in closets or wherever we disgust her!This agent Byrne that wrote this book is to be applauded taking a stand a great read, now director Comey do the right thing!
7/03/2016 11:40:00 AM
The City will hire 5,000 more police officers before Hillary is indicted. It's not going to happen. The reality is that she'll be our next POTUS.
The 3rd watch civ in 009 is a waste of air. She hid behind p.os for the first week and is now barely answering the phones. Oh, but you can bet she dissapears for an hour for lunch while everyone else eats at the desk. #USELESS
Anonymous said...
That's why only former police should apply. They are already immune to all the bullshit these ass clowns that run it have done and will try to get away with.
7/03/2016 01:41:00 PM
after escaping with your scalp you want to go back for more? are you nuts?
>>>Anonymous said...
It sure is sounding like the city completely fucked this whole thing up.... surprise, surprise.
To be hired at $44K and then after a few weeks of earning that salary they're told OOOOPS what it's really supposed to be is $37K.
That's about a 15% pay cut and is a $7K a year difference.
The city then brought in Don O'neill and the civilians quickly saw him for the major asshole that he is.
Needless to say the city and the civilians are off to a very rocky start.
7/03/2016 03:16:00 AM<<<
Again Rahm is trying to run this Department on the cheap.
Remember "District Managers"? Ten years ago or so they made almost $90K. The only good ones were the few that were retired coppers that worked hard to get us stuff we needed. Some were political hacks that threw their weight around and claimed they had actually authority over sworn personnel.
The original came out stating over 40K+ which was the same as what PO's make we they are first hired. That was the reason it looked like an attractive gig. But then at the academy it was 37k which was a lot less. Wtf!!! Right? Civilian Union said they could not help us even though we had sign paperwork stating the original terms. They can have that job. So my full duty officers are still at 311 use them.
Remember "District Managers"? Ten years ago or so they made almost $90K. The only good ones were the few that were retired coppers that worked hard to get us stuff we needed. Some were political hacks that threw their weight around and claimed they had actually authority over sworn personnel.
7/04/2016 01:59:00 AM
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There are still two left and they are still throwing something around thinking they have control over sworn officers.
THEY DON'T
Have some balls and stand up to them!
Anonymous said...
Guy walked up to civilian on desk in 022 and said he shot someone... And the gun he used was in his pocket. Not really worth 37k a year .
7/03/2016 12:02:00 PM
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You are definitely a patrol officer because to are just too dumb.
The civilian employee would not handle that one. A police officer would have to handle it. So, the civilian employee would handle that one. Seriously? What did you think was going to happen?
An Academy Instructor
7/03/2016 10:14:00 PM
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You need to get your a@@ out of the Academy.
You obviously don't know how to read.
No where in that post does it say that the civilian handled the job.
It only said that the offender walked up to the civilian working the desk and said he shot someone.
You are an idiot.
Anonymous said...
Guy walked up to civilian on desk in 022 and said he shot someone... And the gun he used was in his pocket. Not really worth 37k a year .
7/03/2016 12:02:00 PM
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You are definitely a patrol officer because to are just too dumb.
The civilian employee would not handle that one. A police officer would have to handle it. So, the civilian employee would handle that one. Seriously? What did you think was going to happen?
An Academy Instructor
Point is armed individual walks up to unarmed individual. Who said civilian would handle. Smh
Every other desk crew would call in 2 cars. One to handle the shooter and one to get their lunch!
How can it be failing----the civilians are being placed into new or vacant spots (which means no full duty got sent out)---OR they are in addition to the full duty who are still there (which means no full duty got sent out)---OR even better the full duty got reassigned somewhere else inside----or maybe the diverse civilians are not the cream of the crop who are being put into jobs which didn't match the description or even the pay as presented incorrectly at least one step of the process
You are definitely a patrol officer because to are just too dumb.
The civilian employee would not handle that one. A police officer would have to handle it. So, the civilian employee would handle that one. Seriously? What did you think was going to happen?
An Academy Instructor
7/03/2016 10:14
You're obviously an academy instructor that has zero experience off of his or her knees. Where in the post was it said the civilian handled it? I think the post was alluding to the fact that an armed offender, who just shot someone turned themself into said civilian. Now, I know you probably have zero street experience, or your mommy or daddy got you into the academy, but the inherent danger of an unarmed person without body armor, meeting an armed person who just shot someone (therefore has a propensity for violence) is usually a bad thing. So go back to telling recruits other people's war stories and stay off the blog
Zero full duty people should work inside. Get the broke dicks sitting at home doing jack shit to work the desks. If they don't, fire them.
The desk nonsense is brutal at times for sworn personnel and why someone would subject themselves to be wide open to ghetto crazies is beyond comprehension.
Pay any sworn lifetime DeskDolly (review,admin,lockup) between $37-44k a year and they'd quit too.
Heck, taking away the Duty Availabity of any insider and they'll be back on the beat in no time.
But the City's pool of civilians don't always mean they're the cream of the crop.
After all it's a govmint job. Paying them PO scale might get them to stay, but not to work anymore efficiently.
Another Rahm attempt to appease the community will get those positive results at any cost...even it it compromises the budget and what little integrity left in the Department.
The untold short here with the sudden departures could be a matter for some of just getting the foot in the door, quit and go on to collect those entitlements, which at $37-44,000 a year puts FreeGovmintStuff in jeopardy.
"A discontented, lazy rabble instead of a thrifty, working class..."
– Henry F. Potter
ONeill was president of Captain Union when mid-contract negotiations he became Commander of MLAS--- insane.
Couple of year later, he retired from MLAS and became Director of HR but ran BOTH units for years---insane.
He was not even required to be "two-faced" since he was sitting on both sides of the table.
City Hall and the Supe allowed this crap, or maybe they engineered it.
Hey academy instructor! So,you think patrol officers are stupid? It doesn't take much brainpower to read from a sheet of paper and feed the recruits the answers for the test. You idiots are worse than every house mouse that hides inside everyday!you sound like an arrogant dickhead. It's probably better you're tucked away in the academy. You would end up getting you or your partner killed.go fuck yourself!
One quit because he wound up stalking a female who made an accident report.
Keep the Desk manned with all sworn officers to deal with public.
Civilians for district secretary , caps office , timekeeper .
Hire retired police officers a maximum of 8 days a month for Homan Square security , Police Headquarters security , District Station parking lot security , water pumping stations etc . Good , experienced former police officers at the cost of a police recruit .
The city can do the two step all they want but it sure sounds like they fucked up.
The civilians were in for a rude awakening dealing with this fucked up place.
You are definitely a patrol officer because to are just too dumb.
The civilian employee would not handle that one. A police officer would have to handle it. So, the civilian employee would handle that one. Seriously? What did you think was going to happen?
An Academy Instructor
7/03/2016 10:14:00 PM
You should probably refrain from calling people dumb while making grammar mistakes and typos yourself. Those are the least of the issues with your idiotic post. When someone walks up to the desk with a gun, and the civilian is sitting at the desk, and that person walks up to the civilian, how exactly is an officer handling that? No one said the civilian has to tackle and arrest the guy with the gun, but they definitely would be dealing with it by just being there. The civilian is in real danger of being shot, just like anyone else who happens to be at the desk or in the station when a criminal walks in with a gun. Your inability to realize even the simplest of things tells us all we need to know about you. You didn't need to sign your post with "An Academy Instructor," because it's obvious you haven't seen the street in quite some time, if ever. That's a good thing too, because your lack of common sense and your inability to think of very obvious scenarios and outcomes that could occur, would just get you and others hurt or killed. So please, stay at the academy. Let the officers in patrol, the ones you seem to be judging as lower than yourself, handle the police stuff. You're neither worthy nor able to be on the street. You've sucked the right ass to get your cushy academy spot, so just keep quiet and maybe they won't notice you're too dumb to be there. Judging your fellow officers for being in patrol, while you've ascended to the almighty Academy Instructor position, is disgusting. You're a real piece of shit, and you don't belong anywhere near the recruits with that attitude. You actually don't belong on the job, but I'm sure you realize that, which is why you're hiding at the academy while others do the job you thought you could do. There are good instructors at the academy. You're not one of them. You're not smart enough to be ashamed of your idiotic post, but I'm here to let you know that you should be ashamed. Your judgment, combined with your absolute ignorance, make me sick. If someone walks into the academy with a gun, you wouldn't have the slightest clue how to deal with it. You'd probably lock yourself in a classroom and call 311. Dumbfuck.
A Patrol Sergeant
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Zero full duty people should work inside. Get the broke dicks sitting at home doing jack shit to work the desks. If they don't, fire them.
7/04/2016 10:14:00 AM
Ok asswipe.
You probably can't read, but if you could you should try reading our contract.
It calls for most watches to have two bidded desk officers and three watch relief officers. Those are BIDDED spots under the contract and those spots are filled by full duty officers.
Now there are hundreds of full duty officers citywide hidden in Commanders offices etc. .... many without even a job title cause they really don't have a whole lot to do.
Those are the ones who should be tossed out because not only do they not have recognized positions but what little they do doesn't "require a gun and a badge"
That's where civilians should be replacing full duty officers.
Anonymous said...
You are definitely a patrol officer because to are just too dumb.
The civilian employee would not handle that one. A police officer would have to handle it. So, the civilian employee would handle that one. Seriously? What did you think was going to happen?
An Academy Instructor
7/03/2016 10:14:00 PM
You should probably refrain from calling people dumb while making grammar mistakes and typos yourself. Those are the least of the issues with your idiotic post. When someone walks up to the desk with a gun, and the civilian is sitting at the desk, and that person walks up to the civilian, how exactly is an officer handling that? No one said the civilian has to tackle and arrest the guy with the gun, but they definitely would be dealing with it by just being there. The civilian is in real danger of being shot, just like anyone else who happens to be at the desk or in the station when a criminal walks in with a gun. Your inability to realize even the simplest of things tells us all we need to know about you. You didn't need to sign your post with "An Academy Instructor," because it's obvious you haven't seen the street in quite some time, if ever. That's a good thing too, because your lack of common sense and your inability to think of very obvious scenarios and outcomes that could occur, would just get you and others hurt or killed. So please, stay at the academy. Let the officers in patrol, the ones you seem to be judging as lower than yourself, handle the police stuff. You're neither worthy nor able to be on the street. You've sucked the right ass to get your cushy academy spot, so just keep quiet and maybe they won't notice you're too dumb to be there. Judging your fellow officers for being in patrol, while you've ascended to the almighty Academy Instructor position, is disgusting. You're a real piece of shit, and you don't belong anywhere near the recruits with that attitude. You actually don't belong on the job, but I'm sure you realize that, which is why you're hiding at the academy while others do the job you thought you could do. There are good instructors at the academy. You're not one of them. You're not smart enough to be ashamed of your idiotic post, but I'm here to let you know that you should be ashamed. Your judgment, combined with your absolute ignorance, make me sick. If someone walks into the academy with a gun, you wouldn't have the slightest clue how to deal with it. You'd probably lock yourself in a classroom and call 311. Dumbfuck.
A Patrol Sergeant
7/04/2016 04:00:00 PM
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Thank you for being a leader. Reading Comprehension is a skill that requires intelligence. Nowhere in the scenario does it state that the person came into the station brandishing a firearm.
By the way, most of the people at the academy have advanced degrees with extremely high grades, most have perfect As. Due to the lack of training and direction, many people on the job need some direction. Wearing a white shirt does not make you a leader.
At the academy, we are leaders, especially since we are in charge of training.
Go vent and tell your war stories to your buddies.
7/04/2016 12:09:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Keep the Desk manned with all sworn officers to deal with public.
Civilians for district secretary , caps office , timekeeper .
Hire retired police officers a maximum of 8 days a month for Homan Square security , Police Headquarters security , District Station parking lot security , water pumping stations etc . Good , experienced former police officers at the cost of a police recruit .
7/04/2016 01:35:00 PM
You, my friend, get it.
Excellent post.
Our district has about a dozen sworn full duty officers hiding in the commanders area of the district.
That's where the civilians need to go.
But HQ and the media want to focus on "desk" officers.
Why can't they look in the que if someone is calling to find out if someone got arrested they need to know
>>>Anonymous Anonymous said...
Remember "District Managers"? Ten years ago or so they made almost $90K. The only good ones were the few that were retired coppers that worked hard to get us stuff we needed. Some were political hacks that threw their weight around and claimed they had actually authority over sworn personnel.
7/04/2016 01:59:00 AM
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There are still two left and they are still throwing something around thinking they have control over sworn officers.
THEY DON'T
Have some balls and stand up to them!
7/04/2016 06:01:00 AM<<<
I wrote "Remember", I didn't know we still had two DMs somewhere; they're not in my district.
We did stand up to the crazy (expletive deleted) in our district and eventually she left. We had to undo a lot of damage she did everyday. A good friend of mine was a retired P.O. and the DM in a northside district.
A Patrol Sergeant
7/04/2016 04:00:00 PM
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Perfect response. I agree completely.
Contractual spots for life? Should be a yearly bid spot
Thank you for being a leader. Reading Comprehension is a skill that requires intelligence. Nowhere in the scenario does it state that the person came into the station brandishing a firearm.
By the way, most of the people at the academy have advanced degrees with extremely high grades, most have perfect As. Due to the lack of training and direction, many people on the job need some direction. Wearing a white shirt does not make you a leader.
At the academy, we are leaders, especially since we are in charge of training.
Go vent and tell your war stories to your buddies.
7/04/2016 05:41:00 PM
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, so save the lecture. Nowhere in my post did I say anyone was brandishing a firearm. Nowhere in my post did I tell any war stories. Nowhere in my post did I claim to be a leader. Your unsupported claims that most of the people at the academy have advanced degrees with extremely high grades, or "perfect As," whatever the fuck that means, has absolutely nothing to do with my assertion that you're a fucking moron. I only criticized you. I said there are good instructors at the academy. You can't possibly know what degrees and grades each instructor received while attending college. Many police with "advanced degrees" got those degrees by taking blowoff classes taught by some CPD boss, where everyone gets an A. Wearing a white shirt does not make me a leader. It does make me a supervisor though. It makes me a supervisor of the men and women who are out there on the streets dealing with the shit you hide from, putting their lives at risk for an ungrateful department, and an ungrateful community. Your post, in which you attempted to demean them, was disgraceful. I only posted what I did to call you out for being a worthless piece of shit with no respect for your fellow officers. You don't deserve to wear the same uniform as them. You definitely don't belong anywhere near a classroom as an instructor for them. Many people on this job do need direction, but they don't need it from you. Since you decided to bring up leadership, what qualifications do you have that make you a leader? You seem to think that you're a leader just by virtue of your assignment as an instructor at the academy. If a white shirt doesn't make me a leader, your suckass spot that you were given due to something other than your experience as an instructor doesn't make you one either. If you want to be a leader, you don't demean those you're trying to lead. You don't puff out your chest and brag about being an Academy instructor as if you somehow earned it, and that you're somehow better than everyone in patrol. You don't act like an arrogant asshole and suck your own dick because your phone call came through for you. Being "in charge of training" doesn't make you a leader. Someone puts together a cute little powerpoint presentation for you, you struggle to read the information contained in that presentation, and we all shake our heads at your total incompetence and complete lack of teaching ability. You don't write any of the material. You don't put the presentations together. You don't actually teach anything. You do nothing that could even come close to meeting even the loosest definition of being a leader. In closing, go fuck yourself, and pay attention to all the rolling eyes in the classroom while you "teach" and "lead."
P.S. If you really want to impress us, tell us what advanced degrees you have. Share your grades with us. Tell us where you got those advanced degrees. Your best bet, however, is just to shut your ignorant mouth and dig your heels in at the academy so you don't hurt yourself or anyone else on this job. We all know your qualifications and level of intelligence already, so don't bother.
Once Trump becomes President a lot of this will change for the better. Until then just suck it up and stay fetal.
Anonymous said...
You are definitely a patrol officer because to are just too dumb.
The civilian employee would not handle that one. A police officer would have to handle it. So, the civilian employee would handle that one. Seriously? What did you think was going to happen?
An Academy Instructor
7/03/2016 10:14:00 PM
You should probably refrain from calling people dumb while making grammar mistakes and typos yourself. Those are the least of the issues with your idiotic post. When someone walks up to the desk with a gun, and the civilian is sitting at the desk, and that person walks up to the civilian, how exactly is an officer handling that? No one said the civilian has to tackle and arrest the guy with the gun, but they definitely would be dealing with it by just being there. The civilian is in real danger of being shot, just like anyone else who happens to be at the desk or in the station when a criminal walks in with a gun. Your inability to realize even the simplest of things tells us all we need to know about you. You didn't need to sign your post with "An Academy Instructor," because it's obvious you haven't seen the street in quite some time, if ever. That's a good thing too, because your lack of common sense and your inability to think of very obvious scenarios and outcomes that could occur, would just get you and others hurt or killed. So please, stay at the academy. Let the officers in patrol, the ones you seem to be judging as lower than yourself, handle the police stuff. You're neither worthy nor able to be on the street. You've sucked the right ass to get your cushy academy spot, so just keep quiet and maybe they won't notice you're too dumb to be there. Judging your fellow officers for being in patrol, while you've ascended to the almighty Academy Instructor position, is disgusting. You're a real piece of shit, and you don't belong anywhere near the recruits with that attitude. You actually don't belong on the job, but I'm sure you realize that, which is why you're hiding at the academy while others do the job you thought you could do. There are good instructors at the academy. You're not one of them. You're not smart enough to be ashamed of your idiotic post, but I'm here to let you know that you should be ashamed. Your judgment, combined with your absolute ignorance, make me sick. If someone walks into the academy with a gun, you wouldn't have the slightest clue how to deal with it. You'd probably lock yourself in a classroom and call 311. Dumbfuck.
A Patrol Sergeant
7/04/2016 04:00:00 PM
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Thank you for being a leader. Reading Comprehension is a skill that requires intelligence. Nowhere in the scenario does it state that the person came into the station brandishing a firearm.
By the way, most of the people at the academy have advanced degrees with extremely high grades, most have perfect As. Due to the lack of training and direction, many people on the job need some direction. Wearing a white shirt does not make you a leader.
At the academy, we are leaders, especially since we are in charge of training.
Go vent and tell your war stories to your buddies.
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Both of you are what's wrong with this Dept.
Signed, STFU
Why can't they look in the que if someone is calling to find out if someone got arrested they need to know ?
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Que = What? in spanish
Queue = A list.
You want the latter.
JAFO....
The civilians are suppose to have 4 weeks on the job training. So your so called 'hiding' behind pos for the 1st week appears to be training to me....and they also get 1 hour unpaid lunches...you mad about it that you have to eat yours at your desk? I'm sorry Maybe at 009 clear the space of at home second hand made tshirts and merchandise being sold by a fellow employer and you can sit right along with the other POs eat your lunch and cry a river with the rest...
JAFO....
The civilians are suppose to have 4 weeks on the job training. So your so called 'hiding' behind pos for the 1st week appears to be training to me....and they also get 1 hour unpaid lunches...you mad about it that you have to eat yours at your desk? I'm sorry Maybe at 009 clear the space of at home second hand made tshirts and merchandise being sold by a fellow employer and you can sit right along with the other POs eat your lunch and cry a river with the rest...
7/06/2016 09:50:00 AM
Your post makes absolutely no sense.
Your Mom is flicking the basement lights. It's time to finish your beer, get off the computer and go up to bed.
Both of you are what's wrong with this Dept.
Signed, STFU
7/05/2016 12:50:00 PM
A sergeant who sticks up for the POs while some stroke from the academy talks shit about them is what's wrong with this department? You're an idiot.
Signed, GFY
A $7K difference (negative) in starting salary? I would quit too!
Police hater working at the desk time to move on no one likes u anyway don't worry about anyone else worry about yourself and it's not employer it's fellow employee but then again what can we expect cps educated
I personally think the civilian on 2nd shift at 001 is over qualified. I work 2nd shift and she has been very proficient and professional. If this is a exception to the rule coming out of the academy then 001 got lucky.
12 year veteran PO
To the clerk in the 9th district you are not working at Walmart or Harold's you are now employed by CHICAGO POLICE DEPT have some pride know your roll do your job and file your attitude your in the POLICE house now
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I personally think the civilian on 2nd shift at 001 is over qualified. I work 2nd shift and she has been very proficient and professional. If this is a exception to the rule coming out of the academy then 001 got lucky.
12 year veteran PO
7/07/2016 07:45:00 PM
No its not an exception to the rule, all the negative things you are hearing and reading about the current clerks are nothing more than bitter, angry, lazy, people trying to sabotage the position. Some of it from POs and fake wanna be pos civilian workers. There are no hood rats, lazy ghetto scared clerks working any of these districts as these haters claim. Thank you for acknowledging your clerks hard work and also for not following the footsteps of these other hating clowns...
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