Dominoes Falling?
Interesting rumor:
- The Committee to Re-Elect Rahm Emanuel said: This is a rumor, I repeat, a rumor. The news from 740 north Sedgwick is that no charges against the cheaters on the lieutenant exam will be allowed. In return EJ will fire all officers on the scene of the MacDonald shooting plus the detective, his sergeant, his lieutenant, Roy, McNaughton, Riccio and Escalante. The POs, detective and Sgt are royally f*%#*d. But don't worry, all exempts will retire just prior to termination, get their exempt stars and IDs and be well taken care of with huge pensions. All this to save Rahm's career. I wonder what Joe F was promised. Deputy Attorney General in the Clinton administration? But like I said-this is just a rumor. I'm sure it's just rumor.
- Yo SCC word is coming out that 12 people whose name is on the paper of Van Dykes shooting are canned. The exempts all get to retire first. We lose chief of Ds and OCD and McNaughton PLUS Escalante but they are trying to get him his college job first. POs are collateral damage to Hilary's reform agenda. Rahm can't get his cabinet spot till he shakes this scandal. Sorry officers the Rham bus is backing up to Washington DC and you are in the way. Command Staff all get to waltz out in next week or so with their retired gold stars from Don O'Neil.
We're not sure it's "just" a rumor. This is Chicago, and buying off an Inspector General wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. Obviously, Eddie isn't going to do anything about ExamScam II - that's what Rahm is holding over his head.
We're told McNaughton retired abruptly Friday.
This would leave a bunch of cops suing to get their jobs back. Typical city bullshit.
UPDATE: Numerous comments claiming Escalante got the college job. This is looking less and less like a rumor and more and more like a lynch job.
We're told McNaughton retired abruptly Friday.
This would leave a bunch of cops suing to get their jobs back. Typical city bullshit.
UPDATE: Numerous comments claiming Escalante got the college job. This is looking less and less like a rumor and more and more like a lynch job.
Labels: corruption
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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Huge! Just in OMG!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y_acPmNlxJ4
Hahahahah, yes, this is a rumor and a bad one at that. Same poster for both. I actually happen to know that the majority of the coppers have actually been cleared in the McDonald thing. The ig report is finished and submitted to the city. Almost everyone at 35th has already caught wind about this. Stop trying to scare the people who were involved with such a cold hearted and reckless rumor. And this is 100 percent false that Mcnaughton is getting fired over this he's not going anywhere and he was listed in about two sentences in the entire report from the IG. Bunk. 100 percent bunk story.
Losing Roy and Riccio and their toadies is no great loss.
Hopefully they are hiring good lawyers.
They will need them.
So if van dyke beats the case will everyone get their jobs back???
It's all legit.....sarc off.......
Everyone who took that Lt exam should sue for the city's failure to guarantee a fair testing process. How could an exempt who was an "expert" be allowed to pass out the real test and answers to a select and clouted few.
Stay fuckin fetal, people
No this is looking like things working out right for those that matter. Loyalty is rewarded and the right people get the power. Welcome to Clinton World.
We, the coppers, who everyday are in the trenches, are so royally FUCKED! Yet time again through the years since when I came on the job in the '80s, the elites, the exempts, always walk away free. Walk over the bodies of the coppers, who take the fall. However, it is THE CHICAGO WAY!
If true that coppers, sgt, dets, LT, etc are in the cross hairs to be fired, the City has now effectively made every cop become "fetal" by this decision. If the community thought the cops were doing nothing now, they have not seen anything yet of being "fetal" if all these cops get fired. Crime will soar across the city. The city is sending the wrong message to the cops on the job now and those who might have considered becoming Chicago coppers.
I am very sorry to hear that news!!!! Vote for a Democratic mayor again???? a Democratic President? Does anyone see how Rahm has driven this city to its worst in years???
Lynch Job, or Loretta Lynch Job?
Too bad you don't have Billy Clinton talking about YOUR CHILDREN to the head of the DOJ!!!
I guessing it's just a rumor, even Rahm has to know he's done. I'm not sayin these people aren't leaving over MacDonald but Rahm is the murder mayor and always will be. In the meantime, what's today's over/under on savage murders, I'm guessing 6.
Myth...
You can't say lynch , it's racist .
Time to fight yet ?
OT:
Speaking of examscam, has anyone else heard the rumor of the detective results being held up do to ANOTHER entire tact team
all scoring so impossibly well that it defies any explanation other than cheating?
Rahm has done more to destroy this city than the criminals who graduated in the art of victimizing the decent citizens of Shit-Cago.
One thing I do know they don't have exempt stars for retirement the exempt retiree get a retired star the last rank before getting exempt like lieutenant or captain.
No More Compoststat?
Roy is going in nov @ 63. De Esca is getting N-Eastern. Didn't hear shit about Diamond Dave McNaught. Area Central Det Lt. already retired Tony W. So some of their facts are wrong Roy wasn't Chief Of Dets when it happened. Riccio is going at 55 sometime next year.
I say that if you are one of the ones that 'suddenly" gets fired after a 'sudden' mass exodus of command level staff retirements, file a lawsuit against the IGO and CPD and Mayors office.
IGO investigations are not supposed to be leaked (yes, I know this is Chicago, I'm not naive) so that the targets can 'suddenly retire". And since the current IG is a Lawyer...this is something that could be complained about to the State Bar Association.
Captain walsh was scene, is he gone to? He didn't do much in 008 when he was there.
Gold stars get to walk, fucking bullshit
The current president of Northeastern Illinois University is scheduled to retire in one month. Makes the hiring of Mister Six look quite interesting.
Squad, can I get my 30 minutes?
The detective LT already retired I'm calling bullshit
There so stupid couldn't even answer a few questions wrong on purpose. Show no respect to these individuals who cheated screw them over every chance you get.
Yeah, it all makes me want to work real hard. I can't wait to retire. I feel real sorry for you young kids that were stupid enough to sign up for this shit. You've got to be out of your mind to take this job nowadays. All you tactical warriors out there keep getting your heads so the Rahm bus can run you over one day soon!
All true, but no cabinet spot for Rahm.
Hildabeast hates him and had him launched from Bill's WH, just like Moochelle had him sacked from POTUS Hussein's WH.
He's going to NYC or K street, summer 2019.
Barb West for 1st Deputy . Eric Carter for OCD.
"PO's are collateral damage to Clintons reform agenda". Now that is funny. A woman of the Clinton Global Iniative who is worthy of every element of the RICO statute covered for by the FBI and referred to as having a reform agenda. I am past crying. You can only laugh at the level that corruption has risen to in this courntry.
Rahm is a fucking snake. This rumor would not surprise me one bit. If Rahm fires a dozen officers then he can truly claim the mantel of "reform" and he can claim that he cleaned up the police department.
Let this be a lesson for all of you idiot pro active officers. In my district we still have about 3-5 foot chases every day.
Correction; nobody is in front of the bus. It has already started rolling and before mentioned individuals are under the bus.
Bosses on the way out for being worthless? What will we do? We need new bosses to take the reins that these fuck-ups left behind. Oh shit... good thing a bunch of NOBLE people were promoted to richly deserved lieutenant positions. Let's all pretend to be shocked when these cheaters get slotted into the newly created holes. New lieutenant with zero experience, zero knowledge, and zero ability because you only became a lieutenant by cheating? Well, now you're a commander! Congrats! I'm sure you'll do fine. Only the best and brightest. The media will eat it all up and pretend it's all legit. The community will think black faces in high places means only good things for them. This city will be a burning pile of ash before anyone accepts that their solutions are only causing more problems. We're doomed. Get out while you can.
Why anyone does any type of proactive policing needs to have their head examined and sent to a padded cell. Yet day after day I have officers calling me notifying me of their foot for "he looked the other way when I drove by" so I exited by car and chased him for looking funny at me and holding up his pants while running, cause dude don't wear a belt. As a 9165 I am thankful that the officers were not hurt but, wonder why in this Obama/Clinton anti police climate anyone would stick their neck out for because dude looked the other way when the police drove by.
Today its JVD and the 3 from 004. Tomorrow it could be you.
Think about the consequences before you run out of that car.
Rahm and eddie will throw youunder and back up over your TWICE.
I do agree with one thing, Clinton gets in then 9.5 gets a cabinet spot
Don't count on hillery getting elected.
For those unhappy with Mr. Emanuel, you may enjoy this read. It's titled "Mayor Rahm Emanuel's War on the Chicago Police Department."
https://medium.com/@FlorianSohnke/mayor-rahm-emanuels-war-on-the-chicago-police-department-cc3a8fe54e18#.vkfds3fgn
IF numbnuts RAHM thinks this will fly I sure hope he plans ahead.
When this happens NOBODY will want to investigate anything POLICE related!
Just picture officers listening to a radio of shots fired and all the officers go in reverse.
Detectives refusing to work on police shooting. AND if you think you can order someone to do a heater case YOU aint seen an investigation done half ass.
And didn't IPRA investigator also sign off on this case?
Could you imagine losing your job because you were the officer who watched the crime scene!
And the 2 female officers who called for help and never even got out of their vehicle while the tires were stabbed?
If this is the case then all officers who respond to a scene are in jeopardy of losing there jobs at the actions of another. If they allow this to happen not on any credible items but merely politics then all is lost. And I know all is already lost but if we lose our backup out here for fear of just responding. Heaven help us.
With regard to the so-called cheating scandal, it's looking like what most sane people expected: No proof, lots of unsubstantiated rumors, and there is no case when there is no evidence of a crime, period.
Let's try to keep that in mind as Van Dyke inches closer to trial, even though the video is indeed very damning.
Rahm has shown he is ready for high level federal office. cabinet level at the very least.
all of these gold star superstars..."the so-called best of the best"....CPD leadership falls somewhere between a joke and a disgrace
Is this why we haven't seen hide nor hair (although he has none) of Escalante over the past two weeks or so? Has he left to accept the NEIU PD job?
Wonder if the DOJ is reading this
So let me get this straight, Fast Eddie's gf cheated so the "punishment" is to fire other coppers?!?!? I never thought I'd say this, but more often than not, I hate this job and the people who have fucked it up. 2 years can't come fast enough!!
TO 12:10 am,go back in you moms basement,Your friend McNaugton is GONE !!!!,TAKE THAT TO THE BANK !!!!
Will the new 1st need a driver? Sam we still have your locker in 025 waiting for you until you hit the medical again.
Georges is going to be the next First Deputy???
You heard it here first!
I don't think Hillary wants Rahm back. Hopefully she will lose.
Speaking of examscam, has anyone else heard the rumor of the detective results being held up do to ANOTHER entire tact team all scoring so impossibly well that it defies any explanation other than cheating?
8/15/2016 12:54:00 AM
Is there a kid I don't know about on the job?
File this one under Bullshit. Did you ever see the complete video (rarely shown on the news) Mac Donald does in fact turn toward the Officer knife in hand. i'm sure that's what many Officers at the scene also saw. Think how messed up this is. Stay safe.
Anonymous said...
Captain walsh was scene, is he gone to? He didn't do much in 008 when he was there.
8/15/2016 02:48:00 AM
Walsh was running around on scene saying this is a good shoot this is a good shoot
Anonymous said...
One thing I do know they don't have exempt stars for retirement the exempt retiree get a retired star the last rank before getting exempt like lieutenant or captain.
Uhhh ... wrong. Exempts do get their exempt star with a "retired" bar below it as well as their career service (Lt., etc.) star with a retired bar. A friend I came on the job with retired as a deputy chief and the Department gave him a gold star in a nice leather case that says "Deputy Chief" on it as well as his captain's retired star which I believe the Captain's Assoc. gave to him.
dude looked the other way when the police drove by.
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if police actually think this was ever a good reason to even get out of the car, it has become a very, very sad place we now live in.
NAC
affidavit is required under peace officer bill of rights, who signed the affidavit against the involved members ?
Speaking of examscam, has anyone else heard the rumor of the detective results being held up do to ANOTHER entire tact team
all scoring so impossibly well that it defies any explanation other than cheating?
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what makes you think it was cheating? these kinds of tests are remarkably easy if you understand both how the tests work and what the subject matter is. my guess is most people of average intelligence with some guidance who were never cops anywhere could ace the test if they really wanted to.
the same thing happens on similar kinds of written tests for electricians, cisco, microsoft, etc. there are even classes that guarantee you will pass the test or your money back. that is how easy it is to pass these kinds of things with the right kind of help.
NAC
And to think in Wyoming we have had instances of private citizens saving the lives of wounded law enforcement personal by gunning down the crook that shot them. Of course Wyoming is one of those evil gun culture states.
Yes the VC Lt. From Central already retired but that doesn't mean he was part of the IG investigation. Think a little bit. They're going to go after everyone who touched that paper. And as usual the PO's and Det's will take the fall while the supervisors and exempts all ride off into the sunset. They're going to announce a new staff from 1st Deputy to new Chiefs at Central, South, Detective Div and OCD. The face of the newly reformed CPD. My money is on the a politically correct staff not a qualified staff. Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse.
Stay Fetal! Take care of your own guys and gals. Blue first #1. Snap out of it people, Blue first #1
How can the pandering political hack Inspector General Joe Ferguson pass judgment on officers when he is a member of police accountability task force ? Anyone see a conflict of interest, FOP and PBPA -- time for you to step up on this one.
I'm calling bullshit on this one.
Very much a trumped up, kangaroo court type deal.
Rahm is the one who sat on the video for his political gain and he's been throwing CPD under the bus, and pandering his ass off to "the community" ever since.
Rahm: Karma is a bitch. I hope you rot in Hell!
I heard Harley Scehnker is out as head of motor maintenance due to the microphones on the cameras not working in the shooting.
People we have to stick together, Rahm has to go. We need to organize something soon. Same Sgt. who is calling out Fast Eddie
They are not falling they are running as fast as they can.
Grab the pension and identification and get out of town.
More likely a political maneuver than a dept. rumor. The system wheels are always turning to appease the folks.
Speaking of turnover, we all joke about being the next Detroit. Look closer at restless Milwaukee.
CPD will never see the likes of a Milw Co. Sheriff Clark, but after the last of the last of the1980's bosses go, the entire Dept. is destined to fall and never recover. We will become a Milwaukee before a Detroit.
So as for chasing and engaging in ghetto happenings, there are still numbskulls that don't look beyond the CB number.
The new batch of bosses will not be in your corner and will more likely be protected from any liability.
"The current president of Northeastern Illinois University is scheduled to retire in one month. Makes the hiring of Mister Six look quite interesting."
Ugh, she was FORCED out!
confirmed! Mr. Six, got the job!
I guess the college gets, "has beens" that dont have any testicular foritude!
Not a bit surprised if the rumors become truth. just don't expect me to put myself in the firing line anymore.
Maybe Lie-Tenant Fenner can slither her way back to HQ.
And what happens to the copper who did the shooting? Who is going to take care of him?
Everyone on this blog complains about Rham but what do you think we will be left with when hes gone. Some good ole' boy from the neighborhood? No you idiots we are gonna be stuck with Preckwinkle. Id take Rahm any day over her.
Vote Democratic again
Little Stevie Georgas is now in line to be the next 1st Deputy. He won the CompStat wrestle-off last week against super heavyweight contender Anne Kirkpatrick.
I am glad that I'm leaving very soon, this job is so disappointing People are cheating and even the DOJ doesn't give a shit.
They want any Chicago police officers testifying for the defense (Jason Van Dyke) to be labeled as DISGRACED FIRED POLICE OFFICERS to the jury and not Honest Veteran Chicago Police Officers. It's an old ploy to enhance the false criminal charges against Jason Van Dyke.
Very sad.
Looks like Ray Hamilton's little leave of absence to play administrator at the County may be coming to an end after 5 years....
Hope this is a wake-up call to the young officers
Sounds like Dictatorial Banana Republic Tactics to me.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Gold stars get to walk, fucking bullshit
Why Do You Think ?
Because they are Pay to Play, even after Retirement, so they can keep their big, fat, unearned Pensions.
Speaking of examscam, has anyone else heard the rumor of the detective results being held up do to ANOTHER entire tact team
all scoring so impossibly well that it defies any explanation other than cheating?
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Another CPD tradition. Just like last time; i.e. the tact team in 011.
Chicago, a meat grinder of feds and IG investigations, general orders changing mid shift, all while bosses yelling for more heads and increased productivity to look good for Compstat.
Bosses given phone calls to retire before fired, letting the troops swing by a noose created from lies.
Hard Hard looks where there used to be hope that the police could keep the bad guys at bay.
Felons are heroes, Police are criminals, the world is upside down and the media gloriously gleefully keeps pushing the filth, the lies that dumb-asses truly believe.
For 21 years the pendulum was supposed to swing back and not once has it happened.
Thousands of black victims helped but still called a racist because of the color of MY skin
Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke finally a voice of law and order, deep blue to the core.
Social Justice above Legal Justice
Daily we say “Stay Safe” to each other, which has taken on a totally different meaning today
Being the Police. Knowing all this and still showing up for work every day, the J.O.B. you must be nuts or a true BLUE hero with honor and balls that clank.
You truly know, that without us this country would burn to the ground.
Thank you for being you.
Yukon Kornelius
Everyone who took that Lt exam should sue for the city's failure to guarantee a fair testing process. How could an exempt who was an "expert" be allowed to pass out the real test and answers to a select and clouted few.
Sounds like you assume this is the first time that happened
said...
OT:
Speaking of examscam, has anyone else heard the rumor of the detective results being held up do to ANOTHER entire tact team
all scoring so impossibly well that it defies any explanation other than cheating?
8/15/2016 12:54:00 AM
They are fucking cheating again??????
Sorry, this is just all BS. I suppose I'll believe it when I see it but doubt it will come to fruition. This is just too perfectly packaged in an abysmal cluster fuck to sound real. Yes, the department and politicians have no problem making us lambs for slaughter but how the hell can you can all those people on scene? Of course, if jt were done, they'd get their job back. What were they to do? Tackle the officer? It doesn't seem like the D division mishandled the scene either. Hell, I think Van Dyke should get his job back and that's where my conspiracy theory starts and ends. He was legitimate in his use of force and he fired what, 16 rounds? He made the split second decision to use lethal force and those rounds were fired in very quick succession. How about don't try slitting a random citizen's throat, slashing at officers with said knife while their in their car, refuse to drop weapon and make sudden movement to armed officers. Call me crazy but that just might illicit a legitimate deadly force RESPONSE by the police. Case closed. Evidence of a conspiracy is the fact that this is even an issue.
Don't forget gene Williams got an award for all his assistance to the black cheaters.
Right on the money with the so called rumor.
At 2:05 the scum times is chiming in.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/one-top-cop-gone-after-blistering-report-issued-on-mcdonald-case/
Rahm and eddie will throw youunder and back up over your TWICE.
8/15/2016 07:19:00 AM
Rule #2 for surviving Rahmbieland:
Double Tap.
gene roy good ridense nothing but a 19th ward political hack pompous and definitely a skirt chaser
MJT, in line for Roy's spot, the dyes are casted,
Anonymous said...
Hahahahah, yes, this is a rumor and a bad one at that. Same poster for both. I actually happen to know that the majority of the coppers have actually been cleared in the McDonald thing. The ig report is finished and submitted to the city. Almost everyone at 35th has already caught wind about this. Stop trying to scare the people who were involved with such a cold hearted and reckless rumor. And this is 100 percent false that Mcnaughton is getting fired over this he's not going anywhere and he was listed in about two sentences in the entire report from the IG. Bunk. 100 percent bunk story.
8/15/2016 12:10:00 AM
You better check your information because McNaughton put his papers in. This is accurate, these guys are all going to be shown the door. As for the Lt.'s exam scam I hope the DOJ doesn't turn a blind eye to this.
tony riccio for supt i know all you 19th warders hate but the 41st loves him
"And this is 100 percent false that Mcnaughton is getting fired over this he's not going anywhere"
8/15/2016 12:10:00 AM
I guess you're the moron that doesn't know shit.
How is it the commander from 10 and the driver fire into a car and their given medal of galore and these 2 from 004 are stripped?
******crickets*******
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hahahahah, yes, this is a rumor and a bad one at that. Same poster for both. I actually happen to know that the majority of the coppers have actually been cleared in the McDonald thing. The ig report is finished and submitted to the city. Almost everyone at 35th has already caught wind about this. Stop trying to scare the people who were involved with such a cold hearted and reckless rumor. And this is 100 percent false that Mcnaughton is getting fired over this he's not going anywhere and he was listed in about two sentences in the entire report from the IG. Bunk. 100 percent bunk story.
Apparently, you did not see the article in today's Sun-Times.
TO 8/15/16 8;06AM I worked with sam in 025 a few years back untill i transferred out of there, in all hoonestly one of the biggest strokes on this job a big do nothing but a big mouth always ready to monday nite quarterback a police officer doing his job but as usual his clout would get him into a unit he then screw that up they would bounce him back into 025 untill his wack got him into another unit he will come back to 025 untill his clout finds another unit he can f-ckup and then he will go back on the medical
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJMOWEAAth0
please arrest Green not another day of his bs.....
McNauts was gonna retire either or thats a fact, but it sounds and looks juicy when u sell at as he was fire, or chose to resign and retire, making it seem the city took some action. People fail to realize McD was charged not convicted just like Baltimore po's. News will say or put anything out in the media for ratings. What else is there really to read on the media besides Trump, or police stuff really folks nothing else would sell! thats no rumor its fact....
Speaking of examscam, has anyone else heard the rumor of the detective results being held up do to ANOTHER entire tact team
all scoring so impossibly well that it defies any explanation other than cheating?
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what makes you think it was cheating? these kinds of tests are remarkably easy if you understand both how the tests work and what the subject matter is. my guess is most people of average intelligence with some guidance who were never cops anywhere could ace the test if they really wanted to.
the same thing happens on similar kinds of written tests for electricians, cisco, microsoft, etc. there are even classes that guarantee you will pass the test or your money back. that is how easy it is to pass these kinds of things with the right kind of help.
NAC
8/15/2016 09:18:00 AM
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Sure. Also, these are not pass or fail exams. They are ranked. Your method has been tried without much success, Bernstein and Woods study classes.
Anonymous said...
Sorry, this is just all BS. I suppose I'll believe it when I see it but doubt it will come to fruition. This is just too perfectly packaged in an abysmal cluster fuck to sound real. Yes, the department and politicians have no problem making us lambs for slaughter but how the hell can you can all those people on scene? Of course, if jt were done, they'd get their job back. What were they to do? Tackle the officer? It doesn't seem like the D division mishandled the scene either. Hell, I think Van Dyke should get his job back and that's where my conspiracy theory starts and ends. He was legitimate in his use of force and he fired what, 16 rounds? He made the split second decision to use lethal force and those rounds were fired in very quick succession. How about don't try slitting a random citizen's throat, slashing at officers with said knife while their in their car, refuse to drop weapon and make sudden movement to armed officers. Call me crazy but that just might illicit a legitimate deadly force RESPONSE by the police. Case closed. Evidence of a conspiracy is the fact that this is even an issue.
8/15/2016 01:47:00 PM
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Yes, he is getting his job back. And the allegations of perjury, in more than one instance, do not amount to anything, not even rule 14 violations. He will be back on the job as early as next week.
I had a conversation with a very good source today and He said that it is likely that these rumors are very true. Sad, but true. Johnson will move aggressively against all who submitted a report that flies in the face of the video and all in the chain of command who approved the report.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/one-top-cop-gone-after-blistering-report-issued-on-mcdonald-case/
more to it then we thought?
im glad to hear roy is retiring boy what a skirt chaser if you were a hottie you had it made if you were a working non-clouted po he didn't do jack for you gene go back to mt billywood drink at the the kork n Kerry tell everybody what a real jag you were
" . . . My money is on the a politically correct staff not a qualified staff. Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse. "
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Maria Pena the new Chief of Detectives?
Dear God let me off this shit show.
Gold stars sold us out long ago. Stay fetal
" Hahahahah, yes, this is a rumor and a bad one at that. . . . And this is 100 percent false that Mcnaughton is getting fired over this he's not going anywhere and he was listed in about two sentences in the entire report from the IG. Bunk. 100 percent bunk story. "
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uhhhhhhhhh.. You were sayin'?
http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/one-top-cop-gone-after-blistering-report-issued-on-mcdonald-case/
News says mcnaughty retires Monday 15 Aug 16, it's true!
McNaughton is gone. It's confirmed. So if these bosses like McNaughton aren't going to stand there and face the music and explain their actions, why should you think any of the bosses have your back? Once there is any hint of a problem, they fold like lawn chairs and retire! Unbelievable!
Off topic..... Mary Sarlitto is RETIRING (018th District Midnights)
Anonymous said...
dude looked the other way when the police drove by.
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if police actually think this was ever a good reason to even get out of the car, it has become a very, very sad place we now live in.
NAC
8/15/2016 09:11:00 AM
Wrong...
When everybody on the corner glanced at the m/fer who was dirtier
than the rest, when The Police rolled by.
Wild Kingdom Policing...
The sum of your hard earned experience
and the totality of the circumstances
that led Dude to become the focus of your attention.
NOBODY is interested in putting in the TIME and effort
in Policecraft...
20, 25, 30 or more years on the job?
Congratulations... You STILL don't know Jackson J. Shit
in the scheme of all things.
Be willing to listen.
Be even more willing to STFU and learn.
"Teachers" on this job can take many forms.
Use your head for something other than a
place for your sky-piece to occupy.
It's not about jumping out of the car and swinging YOUR dick
at a bunch of swing-dicks.
It was all about wisely picking and choosing your moments
when you were on the hunt.
Police like a square.
Just not in these troubled times, ok?
Keep your Policecraft to yourselves until
after the "Communerty" and it's enablers falls backward into their own assholes
and disappears, never again to be an affront to civilized society.
This is the course of correction we desperately yearn for.
When upright and law abiding men are FREE from the tyranny
of the hotted-up false outrage of a comparative few who have
been photo-shopped into a monstrous mob in order to promote
an agenda.
Best of luck to Dave McNaughton a Good Boss but a GREAT MAN who always puts family faith and friendship first. Your Tars Family
Not a PO here, what do you mean when you say exempts?
It is now Monday.
Over the weekend it was pointed out that for the city to give the media CPD dash-cam, station or body-cam videos with officers faces clearly recognizable was in violation of clause 6-4 of the contract.
Has anyone made complaints to FOP or IPRA about this?
What were the responses?
Did anyone call their lawyers?
Is Dean still asleep?
Fuck McNaughton, good riddance another meritorious promoted hack. If not for the bartender he would still be a patrolman.
Like an old timer told me back in the early 90's when I first worked the wagon with him during the heat wave of 95.
No one ever got in trouble for doing nothing.
I have lived by that advice since that first day of picking up 5 stiffs in one day. Some said that I was a dog, but I never gave a shit what anyone said. I have 2 large dogs and treat them like gold.
For all those young hard chargers on an 06 car or tac or area sat or gun team. You will one day be like me and you will learn to appreciate and enjoy life much more. Screw 9.5, eddie, prickwinkle, states attorney, media and especially fr flaker and fake reverend jjj.
FOP will look into all cases
good example commander get an award
blue shirts stripped
The music has stopped. Better find a chair everyone.
How is it the commander from 10 and the driver fire into a car and their given medal of galore and these 2 from 004 are stripped?
******crickets*******
This deserves a post of its own. I think you just helped remind everyone of the double standard that exists in this profession .
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The current president of Northeastern Illinois University is scheduled to retire in one month. Makes the hiring of Mister Six look quite interesting.
8/15/2016 02:56:00 AM
How so?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wonder if the DOJ is reading this
8/15/2016 07:59:00 AM
Wondering? It's a guarantee.
God Bless you who are the police! It is great you receive Gold Stars when you retire. The only thing us deputy sheriff correctional officers get if when we retire is the shit we have to keep inside! God Bless you who are the police!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Speaking of examscam, has anyone else heard the rumor of the detective results being held up do to ANOTHER entire tact team
all scoring so impossibly well that it defies any explanation other than cheating?
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what makes you think it was cheating? these kinds of tests are remarkably easy if you understand both how the tests work and what the subject matter is. my guess is most people of average intelligence with some guidance who were never cops anywhere could ace the test if they really wanted to.
the same thing happens on similar kinds of written tests for electricians, cisco, microsoft, etc. there are even classes that guarantee you will pass the test or your money back. that is how easy it is to pass these kinds of things with the right kind of help.
NAC
8/15/2016 09:18:00 AM
For someone who spends so much time on this site, I'm amazed you'd even ask this question.
First, our tests aren't like electrician tests.
Second, the system is corrupt. BEYOND corrupt.
Words fail me.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hahahahah, yes, this is a rumor and a bad one at that. Same poster for both. I actually happen to know that the majority of the coppers have actually been cleared in the McDonald thing. The ig report is finished and submitted to the city. Almost everyone at 35th has already caught wind about this. Stop trying to scare the people who were involved with such a cold hearted and reckless rumor. And this is 100 percent false that Mcnaughton is getting fired over this he's not going anywhere and he was listed in about two sentences in the entire report from the IG. Bunk. 100 percent bunk story.
Apparently, you did not see the article in today's Sun-Times.
8/15/2016 04:04:00 PM
And apparently you also didn't see the Supt email announcing McNaughtons retirement
Speaking of examscam, has anyone else heard the rumor of the detective results being held up do to ANOTHER entire tact team
all scoring so impossibly well that it defies any explanation other than cheating?
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Another CPD tradition. Just like last time; i.e. the tact team in 011.
8/15/2016 01:25:00 PM
Totally true BUT they stole SGTS STRIPES.
You can go far when you're sponsored by Pat Lavar, just ask Davey McNaughton.
DOJ for CPD left offices here and drove up to Milwaukee Today........
I guess they were hungry for Brats?
Never worked for Mc Naughton, but, as a Retired guy ,this all plays into Rham's agenda to salvage his rapidly falling Political career! Gotta get those Black votes and this is a way to do it !
The angriest people on the streets don"t read the News , but the politicians that use them to their advantage use the Media !
How is it the commander from 10 and the driver fire into a car and their given medal of galore and these 2 from 004 are stripped?
******crickets*******
ANSWER : The OFFICERS from 004 were Blue Shirts
*** Now if the Cmdr of 004 was on scene and fired, a Ceremony would've beeen in order...!!!
Ha. Eugene is a W.Beverlyite, sorry buddy. SAD.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not a PO here, what do you mean when you say exempts?
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Exempt from rules and regs, exempt from laws, exempt from common sense....shall i continue?
If any PO's go down for this pcp crazed, ward of the state, knife wielding thug then I will do absolutely NOTHING! The homicide rate can hit 2000 for all I care. If the mayor thinks throwing PO's under the bus will save his re-election, he is mistaken. Morale will plummet. Crime will skyrocket.
That's nice. Rahm gets busted on the cover up and yo save face he fires everybody on the paper who he covered up. Will the DOJ report that? No way.
McNaughton probably reduced a lot of violence in 008 with his micromanaging style and by dumping many rapids in "the box". He was professional, told u what he wanted (contact cards) and didn't back stab PO's. He was hated for denying time. Sometimes u got a "tuesday" denied. Overall not a bad boss. Had much worse before.
This is no different then when they let Lt. D. Walsh retire with star and ID after the shit he pulled. I know they let him get his retired credentials for a fact. So wake the fuck up people there is and always has been two sets of rules. For the chosen, the clouted you can get away with anything up to and including murder and the Supt. and IAD will ignore all of it and give you the retired star and ID and the party and if you got enough clout you'll even get a good job so you can double dip. For the rest of us white shirt or blue you'll be treated like shit when you go down to retire and get nothing. I know been there done that.
>>>Anonymous said...
Not a PO here, what do you mean when you say exempts?
8/15/2016 05:42:00 PM<<<
Simply stated it is sworn rank above the rank of Captain.
as in Commander, Deputy Chief, Chief, Deputy Superintendent all the way up to Superintendent. There is also Inspector.
There are a few civilian exempts and they usually hold the title of Director.
Maria Pena the new Chief of Detectives?
Pena was the dumbest youth officer in 11. As for her being the head of the dicks .LOL Pena fame to glory was making everyone do contact cards and we know how that shit show ended.
Anonymous said...
God Bless you who are the police! It is great you receive Gold Stars when you retire. The only thing us deputy sheriff correctional officers get if when we retire is the shit we have to keep inside! God Bless you who are the police!
8/15/2016 06:48:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
And God Bless You for taking and doing one of the worst jobs in humanity, that of working in corrections. I used to go into prisons and jails during my part-time academic career. I could not wait to get out the front door. What a depressing atmosphere.
Here's a Classic example why it pays to be a BOSS and not a Blue Shirt... Check out this news clip
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-police-involved-shooting-20150829-story.html
8/15/2016 04:04:00 PM
And apparently you also didn't see the Supt email announcing McNaughtons retirement
8/15/2016 07:21:00 PM
The fact that someone mentioned in the article has put in for retirement does not change what is going to happen. Very good sources have stated that the superintendent wants to do something drastic to everyone who was involved in this shooting. I heard it today from a very good source outside the department. What will happen? he did not know but suspects that some will be put up for dismissal so Johnson can " clean house". I heard 12 people, three of whom are exempts. I hope it is not true. A sad day for all.But, losing this job is not the worst part. There are criminal charges to follow for some.
For someone who spends so much time on this site, I'm amazed you'd even ask this question.
First, our tests aren't like electrician tests.
Second, the system is corrupt. BEYOND corrupt.
8/15/2016 06:52:00 PM
I agree and they always have been with these so called " subject matter experts". But, it does not help to have a 40% score needed to " pass" a written test.
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if police actually think this was ever a good reason to even get out of the car, it has become a very, very sad place we now live in.
NAC
8/15/2016 09:11:00 AM
The only sad thing is your comment which points out to everyone who has ever worked as the police as one dumb comment from one dumb and inexperienced person who should not even comment.
Anonymous said...
How is it the commander from 10 and the driver fire into a car and their given medal of galore and these 2 from 004 are stripped?
******crickets*******
This deserves a post of its own. I think you just helped remind everyone of the double standard that exists in this profession .
8/15/2016 06:34:00 PM
Exactly!!!!! Why is this not front page news? Please remind us all of the details. This job has so many DOUBLE STANDARDS it is mind blowing. Yet they wonder why the city is up for grabs. Perhaps because our department is up for grabs. JOKE!!!!!
Yes, he is getting his job back. And the allegations of perjury, in more than one instance, do not amount to anything, not even rule 14 violations. He will be back on the job as early as next week.
8/15/2016 04:35:00 PM
You are dreaming. Don't you know that politics and the media determine who is guilty and who is not? These forces have already determined what heads will roll. People testified at different grand juries long before the media shit show happened and their stories were locked in. Losing this job will be the least of their worries. Indictments for obstruction of justice is the greatest fear. You can be right in the law and still lose your job. Getting fired for a false report is pretty standard in many departments and what constitutes a false report is determined by your employer. It sucks
Anonymous said...
Sorry, this is just all BS. I suppose I'll believe it when I see it but doubt it will come to fruition. This is just too perfectly packaged in an abysmal cluster fuck to sound real. Yes, the department and politicians have no problem making us lambs for slaughter but how the hell can you can all those people on scene? Of course, if jt were done, they'd get their job back. What were they to do? Tackle the officer? It doesn't seem like the D division mishandled the scene either. Hell, I think Van Dyke should get his job back and that's where my conspiracy theory starts and ends. He was legitimate in his use of force and he fired what, 16 rounds? He made the split second decision to use lethal force and those rounds were fired in very quick succession. How about don't try slitting a random citizen's throat, slashing at officers with said knife while their in their car, refuse to drop weapon and make sudden movement to armed officers. Call me crazy but that just might illicit a legitimate deadly force RESPONSE by the police. Case closed. Evidence of a conspiracy is the fact that this is even an issue.
8/15/2016 01:47:00 PM
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Yes, he is getting his job back. And the allegations of perjury, in more than one instance, do not amount to anything, not even rule 14 violations. He will be back on the job as early as next week.
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Original poster here. So I just saw the news about McNaughton retiring. I'll admit it when I'm wrong and it appears I was wrong and this is not just a rumor. Thanks for the sarcasm above. Sorry, I didn't know he (presumably Van Dyke) was alleged to have committed perjury. I still maintain that based off of the circumstances I don't feel it was a bad shoot. The amount of rounds fired could be argued as excessive but, as I wrote earlier, once the decision has been made, you can fire rounds in very quick succession and I am not going to MMQB. I'm also not going to be glorifying an offender high on God knows what kind of drugs who attempted to slash an innocent person's throat and stab at police cars, refused to drop a deadly weapon, and turned while elevating said weapon.
The throwing under the bus the 10 other on-scene coppers at McDonald shooting is just the kind of sleezy move that rat-face bastard Rahm would do. He is so into pandering to the idiot class in hope that they will like him. All the pandering does is embolden them.
If JVD had obviously committed a criminal shooting, State's Attorney would have indicted him right away. And it would have gone over better.
But only after the video comes out reeks of a political prosecution.
Probably what happened is that SAO looked at the evidence, the statutes and the case law and realized that this would be an extremely difficult case to convict.
So what does indicting him on 6 counts of murder that have trivial variations do? It makes a weak case sound much stronger than it actually is.
And plowing over the 10 coppers to discredit them is to help obtain a conviction. A failure to do that has Rahm scared shitless. He must be hoping that that happens after he leaves office and it will be someone else's problem.
This department is so far beyond salvation. I used to love going to work, laughing with friends, chasing bad guys and doing good, aggressive police work. I never saw anyone take money, beat anyone for no reason and always tried to do good, even if it meant responding to violence with violence. It was necessary. I absolutely hate my job now. I'm miserable and applied for several jobs. We have so many good people on this job. Personality conflicts galore and some people who have always just sucked but for the most part I like everyone. I can't see for the life of me how we still have proactive police that don't realize they're not chasing the dope boy, the shooter. No, they're chasing their own lawsuit and their own demise and they don't even realize it. I feel like such a dog ass saying it but I've been fetal for some time now. I hope all those that can afford to and have other good options to leave, do so. I fear Milwaukee and the scores of attacks on law-enforcement like we've seen national wide will happen in Chicago. Our "bosses" are the worst cowards, turncoats and will bury us for their spot and image, especially if you are not the right skin color. We simply cannot act appropriately because if we do we will be crucified. If we don't act appropriately, some of us will end up injured or dead but to me that not the worst that could happen.
Guys with 20-30+ years on: has it ever been this bad in terms of court system, publicity, bosses, etc.?
6:34
Remind?? The two tiers of discipline is brought up weekly on this blog. IAD is so corrupt they will tell you themselves that they can do what they want. If your clouted, you get taken care of! For example, average P.O. may get a 15 day suspension for the same offense a SUPERVISOR gets 5 days!! IAD is involved in the current cheating scandal. IAD is a complete meritorious unit filled with ....well you know. Time to make a change to the unfair disciplinary system FOP.I suggest anyone who has been unjustly suspended for the same offense that supervisors and clouted had to serve but due to FOIA ,you may find out that you served twice,,three times the amount of the clouted. HELLO DOJ
How is it the commander from 10 and the driver fire into a car and their given medal of galore and these 2 from 004 are stripped?
There was a gun in the car of the Bishop gang members. They were on viewed shooting out the window. There were also civilian witnessed that corroborated the same story. So this is a much different scenario. So, let it rest.
im glad to hear roy is retiring boy what a skirt chaser if you were a hottie you had it made if you were a working non-clouted po he didn't do jack for you gene go back to mt billywood drink at the the kork n Kerry tell everybody what a real jag you were
Roy lives in Saugenash, not Mt. Greenwood.
5:42pm. Anyone above the rank of Captain is considered "exempt"rank.
From an "Insignificant" blog:
SATURDAY, AUGUST 29, 2015
Officers Shoot Assailant
On-view of a drive-by and a chase ensued:
"Chicago police officers shot at least one person early Saturday in the Heart of Chicago neighborhood on the Lower West Side after witnessing a drive-by shooting, police said.
About 1:30 a.m., 10th District Cmdr. Frank Valadez and a police officer assigned to the 10th District were on routine patrol when they saw someone fire shots from a vehicle into another occupied vehicle near the corner of 23rd and Wood streets, according to a statement from the Chicago Police Department.
Valadez and the officer pursued the vehicle, and near the intersection of 19th Street and Ashland Avenue, the vehicle struck several parked cars, according to the statement.
As officers tried to intercept, the suspects deliberately reversed their vehicle to strike the commander and the officer, police said in the statement.
The officers fired their weapons, striking at least one person who continued to flee but was later taken into custody after striking additional vehicles, the statement said."
The commander and officer suffered "minor" injuries. Sounds like a good job all around.
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The U.O.F. general order had been updated, regarding shooting into vehicles, prior to this incident.
So, double standard, or different circumstances???
Anonymous said...
Yes, he is getting his job back. And the allegations of perjury, in more than one instance, do not amount to anything, not even rule 14 violations. He will be back on the job as early as next week.
8/15/2016 04:35:00 PM
You are dreaming. Don't you know that politics and the media determine who is guilty and who is not? These forces have already determined what heads will roll. People testified at different grand juries long before the media shit show happened and their stories were locked in. Losing this job will be the least of their worries. Indictments for obstruction of justice is the greatest fear. You can be right in the law and still lose your job. Getting fired for a false report is pretty standard in many departments and what constitutes a false report is determined by your employer. It sucks
8/15/2016 11:29:00 PM
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Wow!? Wow!? You are really intellectually disadvantaged. The was complete sarcasm doofus.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Maria Pena the new Chief of Detectives?
Pena was the dumbest youth officer in 11. As for her being the head of the dicks .LOL Pena fame to glory was making everyone do contact cards and we know how that shit show ended.
8/15/2016 11:00:00 PM
Oh no soap lady child abuser make sure to leave bars of soap by her desk and car.
Proactive policing is dead. Body cameras, cams and mics in cars, pod cams, store cams, red light and speed cams, public with iphone cams, the list goes on. If you're still drinking the comsptat kool-aid and hard charging you better make a list of your assests. Units, teams and 06 you are just a tool to promote a shirt who will retire when you loose it all for a dumb Head, ISR or TSS gone wrong. Like the above said..."no one ever got in trouble for not doing anything." Not say to back up each other up and be the police when the time is needed. To chase numbers and have no one to back you up is simply career and family suicide. Stay fetal my friends, give them a report, back each other up, and hit the hole until check off.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hahahahah, yes, this is a rumor and a bad one at that. Same poster for both. I actually happen to know that the majority of the coppers have actually been cleared in the McDonald thing. The ig report is finished and submitted to the city. Almost everyone at 35th has already caught wind about this. Stop trying to scare the people who were involved with such a cold hearted and reckless rumor. And this is 100 percent false that Mcnaughton is getting fired over this he's not going anywhere and he was listed in about two sentences in the entire report from the IG. Bunk. 100 percent bunk story.
8/15/2016 12:10:00 AM
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WOW Thanks a lot for the info Anonymous Anonymous. But I'm really not sure if we can trust what you posted. You Said the McNaughton isn't going anywhere 3 whole days AFTER he has already left due to the fall out. He left ABUPTLY on Friday, and you poster on Monday. If you were in the know, you would of already knew that he threw his badge & car keys and ran out the door before it closed on him.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
McNaughton is gone. It's confirmed. So if these bosses like McNaughton aren't going to stand there and face the music and explain their actions, why should you think any of the bosses have your back? Once there is any hint of a problem, they fold like lawn chairs and retire! Unbelievable!
8/15/2016 05:21:00 PM
Assuming that McNaughton was the On Call Incident Commander (OCIC) on the McDonald incident or simply the deputy chief in charge of the scene, , he would have the initial "final say" on the scene as to whether the shoot complied with Depart. policy or not. He would have been the final signor on the TRR's created that evening. He probably would not have seen the video that the rest of the world has seen prior to signing off. Why didn't he wait to see the video? Because "they" want the TRR's signed off on almost immediately. Based on what he knew at the time, the shoot was within dept. policy. He was in essence, backing up the troops including Van Dyke. Of course, this blew up in his face when the video hit over a year later. It could have been any exempt who was in charge of that scene on that evening. DM just had the bad luck of being "the one." Now he's being made to fall on his sword. He's facing the music. He's 52 years old with 24 years on the job. Not enough time to collect a full pension and get the free insurance. Most here saying what an asshole he is never worked for or with him. When I was in 008 I didn't love the guy but he was fair and as a resident of 008, I appreciated some of the stuff he did in my neighborhood. He's simply a victim of a system gone bad and getting worse.
commander from 10 fired into a car
years ago an off duty white shirt shot an offender while off duty attending a birthday party
First, our tests aren't like electrician tests.
Second, the system is corrupt. BEYOND corrupt.
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I agree on both counts.
You are correct in pointing out the electrician tests are probably harder. The point is not the relative difficulty of the exams but that it is much easier for people who understand the structure of the test and have some experience taking tests to do well on written tests. That is why there are so many test study guides put out by people who understand a specific test that makes a huge difference in the scores test takers get.This is common with every test out there. Why would it be any different with police tests? The same basic principles apply to taking the test itself.
I would point out there are also test study guides that are pretty much useless for most tests as well. Usually the ones put out by the testing organization are relatively unhelpful in getting better scores.
Just because the city is corrupt does not mean there was cheating on a specific test. There might have been, and it is certainly suspicious that a group did especially well. But that is also not unprecedented in the wider world of test taking. That kind of thing shows up occasionally with tests of all kinds.
NAC
captain rank is 100% Merit
Anonymous Anonymous said...
im glad to hear roy is retiring boy what a skirt chaser if you were a hottie you had it made if you were a working non-clouted po he didn't do jack for you gene go back to mt billywood drink at the the kork n Kerry tell everybody what a real jag you were
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Roy lives in Saugenash, not Mt. Greenwood.
8/16/2016 01:08:00 AM
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I don't see where anyone said he lives south. They said he DRINKS south.
Roy lives in Saugenash, not Mt. Greenwood.
8/16/2016 01:08:00 AM
Shut up u dummy that jag lives on my block, your right he doesn't live in mount greenwood he lives in west Beverly. Can't wait for him to leave the department or the block
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
im glad to hear roy is retiring boy what a skirt chaser if you were a hottie you had it made if you were a working non-clouted po he didn't do jack for you gene go back to mt billywood drink at the the kork n Kerry tell everybody what a real jag you were
Roy lives in Saugenash, not Mt. Greenwood.
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Obviously you haven't seen the master of divorce lately. The northside address was the last wife. He lives in west Beverly now.
Roy used to live in Sauagansh. Has lived in my greenwood for a few years since his divorce
How is it the commander from 10 and the driver fire into a car and their given medal of galore and these 2 from 004 are stripped?
There was a gun in the car of the Bishop gang members. They were on viewed shooting out the window. There were also civilian witnessed that corroborated the same story. So this is a much different scenario. So, let it rest.
No it's not. Only difference is he's a commander and her a Sgt now. The vehicle was the only weapon at the time. Same as in 004. However. The female driver had an entire empty parking lot to escape the path of the vehicle and she chose to fire at the vehicle causing the commander to open fire as well. If they are blue shirts, they're stripped. Two sets of rules.
Previously posted:
"God Bless you who are the police! It is great you receive Gold Stars when you retire. The only thing us deputy sheriff correctional officers get if when we retire is the shit we have to keep inside! God Bless you who are the police!"
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Blessings sent back to you! Corrections-you have the worst job ever and certainly with no support from Dart. It's simply common knowledge what Dart is about.
Test, test again and test again!! Get out of that place-you can do it!
Retired, 30+
The throwing under the bus the 10 other on-scene coppers at McDonald shooting is just the kind of sleezy move that rat-face bastard Rahm would do. He is so into pandering to the idiot class in hope that they will like him. All the pandering does is embolden them.
all you idiots working the mayors detail are JAGOFFS
Mr.Six Got the job at NW! He Gone!
FYI
Go back and check G03-02-03 Updated February 2015
Any Incicent after that date, like Firing into a vehicle on August 2015, is PROHIBITED
It does not read if your an exempt it doesn't apply to you.
Silly
NAC, what kind of moron are you? CPD promotion exams are corrupt! Anyone who has ever taken one knows it! Who or what are you defending, Lt Fenner? Special Ed? You are a prime example of the twisted logic that permeates this department.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
First, our tests aren't like electrician tests.
Second, the system is corrupt. BEYOND corrupt.
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I agree on both counts.
You are correct in pointing out the electrician tests are probably harder. The point is not the relative difficulty of the exams but that it is much easier for people who understand the structure of the test and have some experience taking tests to do well on written tests. That is why there are so many test study guides put out by people who understand a specific test that makes a huge difference in the scores test takers get.This is common with every test out there. Why would it be any different with police tests? The same basic principles apply to taking the test itself.
I would point out there are also test study guides that are pretty much useless for most tests as well. Usually the ones put out by the testing organization are relatively unhelpful in getting better scores.
Just because the city is corrupt does not mean there was cheating on a specific test. There might have been, and it is certainly suspicious that a group did especially well. But that is also not unprecedented in the wider world of test taking. That kind of thing shows up occasionally with tests of all kinds.
NAC
8/16/2016 10:41:00 AM
(First - Let's be clear; I never pointed out that the electrician's test is probably harder.)
Once again, our tests aren't normal. The LSAT, etc., are geared toward a legitimate goal. We ask you the questions, you answer them, we score your test without prejudice or outside influence, you get your score and a percentile ranking which gives you a firm idea of what your chances are of attaining your goal.
The police department skews the test, gives certain people a 'key word' to use in oral boards, to prove they've got the inside track, 'adjusts' results to benefit certain individuals or groups of individuals, and the same people devising the test are the people who sleep with test-takers and are related to test-takers or who take cash from test-takers, and they proffer copies of the test to those test-takers in advance of the test.
So, defend it all you want (and I do wonder why a civilian would come to a police blog and defend the criminals), but it's a vile, corrupt system that deprives legitimate applicants of promotions and rewards thieves and cheaters and puts them in charge when they don't have an iota of skill or capability.
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