Learning Curve
Evidently, we are again expected to be perfect, all times, every time. The only humans expected to be so:
- A body camera worn by the Chicago police officer who fatally shot an 18-year-old man in the back last week was not recording at the time of the shooting, police said Monday.
It’s not clear why the camera was not recording, police spokesman [...] said Monday.
Moments before Paul O’Neal, 18, was shot and killed in the South Shore neighborhood Thursday night, he’d rammed the Jaguar he was driving into one police car and sideswiped another.
Two officers fired at O’Neal while he was still in the car. [...] said their body cameras were working and captured the discharge of their weapons.
A third officer — who police say fired the fatal shot — opened fire on O’Neal, who was unarmed, after he’d exited the car, hitting him in the back....
It is a well known fact that you function under pressure as you have been trained. You revert to habit. That includes bad habits as well as good ones.
Body cameras haven't been around long enough to be an ingrained habit. If you pull up on a hot scene, knowing that someone just tried to maim/kill police officers with a 3,000 pound vehicle, your first thought isn't to click a button, and certainly not to click it twice as we've been told that is what activates the camera. So it shouldn't be surprising that someone didn't do it perfectly the first time. That doesn't make it any sort of "conspiracy" as some bottom-feeding lawyer is already suggesting. But you know, they have to taint the jury pool as quickly as possible.
It sure would be nice to hear that sort of explanation from a spineless superintendent.
And it would be even nicer if he could get out there and correct the perception that the deceased car thief was "unarmed," He was behind the wheel of a automobile weighing a ton-and-one-half that he had already used it to destroy other cars in an attempt to escape. "Unarmed" is a loaded term meant to inflame, not inform. If he and his buddies hadn't gotten the idea they could steal four cars from Bolingbrook, a lot of this could have been avoided - but that would mean taking responsibility for their actions and you can't have that of the entitled ones.
The investigation should proceed according to the law and established rules.
Body cameras haven't been around long enough to be an ingrained habit. If you pull up on a hot scene, knowing that someone just tried to maim/kill police officers with a 3,000 pound vehicle, your first thought isn't to click a button, and certainly not to click it twice as we've been told that is what activates the camera. So it shouldn't be surprising that someone didn't do it perfectly the first time. That doesn't make it any sort of "conspiracy" as some bottom-feeding lawyer is already suggesting. But you know, they have to taint the jury pool as quickly as possible.
It sure would be nice to hear that sort of explanation from a spineless superintendent.
And it would be even nicer if he could get out there and correct the perception that the deceased car thief was "unarmed," He was behind the wheel of a automobile weighing a ton-and-one-half that he had already used it to destroy other cars in an attempt to escape. "Unarmed" is a loaded term meant to inflame, not inform. If he and his buddies hadn't gotten the idea they could steal four cars from Bolingbrook, a lot of this could have been avoided - but that would mean taking responsibility for their actions and you can't have that of the entitled ones.
The investigation should proceed according to the law and established rules.
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If any of you think the media and Black lives matter types care what a video shows you are dreaming.
Latest case with nut mom shotgun and 5 year old perfect case. BLM still saying police should use SLEEPING GAS!
You will be under the bus regardless of what you do.
I love how they report the news. This kid was a victim, this kid had a future, this kid had no weapon, this kid was good.
WAIT A SECOND!!!!!
This kid stole a car!!!
THAT is a felony. This kid tried to ram a cop car (attempted murder? maybe). This kid ran instead of stopping (trying to escape).
This "kid" was no "innocent bystander".
Message to "the folk" - when a police officer tells you to stop - STOP! When a police officer tells you to "Drop the weapon!"- DROP the weapon.
It's THAT simple!!! TEACH YOUR KIDS!
"Unarmed" is a loaded term meant to inflame, not inform."
...not to mention the endless repetition of the "SHOT IN THE BACK!" meme.
The street today is not an 18th-Century pistol duel between noblemen, conducted on the village green with seconds and a surgeon in attendance.
As a matter of fact, some of these regents and barons and so forth were dirty motherf__ers who'd try to cap the other guy in the junk or something.
>pfft<
Atleast this case will be harder for them to pull the innocent angel card on. The Nice, France truck attack shows what 4 wheels can do when motivated.
What the community really means when it screams for justice, is a call for revenge. Never mind if the protocol of the judiciary system is followed.
Reading the comments. Even the commenters understand the ghetto lottery. They know that the city of Chitcago will cave and pay off the fambly.
Person shot at buckingham fountain, thank God for summer mobile!
Bottom line:
DO NOT do pro-active police work.
DO NOT cry when the bus is driven over you.
GET THE MEMO NOW !!!
It all sounds like a fine bucket of worms, and if is isn't the press, leadership and BLM will soon make it a bucket of crawlies.
That just gives us coppers a reason to just STAY FETAL, issue a report and most importantly back each other up. You try to do good on this job and be the police and look what happens. Tunnel visionit happens to all of us. I wear a bwc and sometimes in a hasty moment I've forgotten to turn on my bwc. Especially when you have to press it twice. Now the media is running with this as if it's the officers fault. And where are our leaders and fop. No one sticking up for these officers. Unbelievable! I feel for these new ppo's on the job. I wish then a lot of luck.
I brought this up and was told the camera was recording the whole time like the in car cameras. So what is the truth?
The CDL license holding sup was in roll calls today in 004 trying to save face... He wasn't very professional at all, looks and sounds like he got promoted way over his head! Is it true he's a relative of michelle obama?
Or maybe the impact of the head on collision and air bag deploy,net turned the camera off
I don't know if this kid should have been shot or not, I wasn't there. Maybe it was justified, maybe it wasn't. But I do know in this political climate, with this mayor and this superintendent these officers will never get a fair shake. It won't be long before the community is demanding criminal charges. These officers have an uphill battle that's for sure.
Media: The perp, 'he rammed the Jaguar he was driving into one police car and sideswiped another.'
Media: Oh. Well that's not anything to get excited about.
Intelligent observer. Please observe the complete destruction of the front end on the stolen jaguar. That is a hit of at least 45 mph. The machine was operated as a land missile.
Glass block Cross Clergy: But hey, let him go another day til successful at guiding a motor vehicle or another weapon to someone's death.
YT from Austin (1970's) asks you still there, Why? Think about it.
The key word you correctly use is "entitled." "Entitled" to steal and, in many cases, murder people at will in this city. Entitled to do so by the President, the mayor, the somehow "legitimized" organization known as Black Lives Matter, sociopaths like The fake Catholic priest known by his "flock" as Father Mike and by our illustrious Supt. Special Ed. Criminals are now known as victims and police are now known as offenders. And, all of us need to realize and understand that. Until we do we will continue to be punching bags. It's only gonna get worse. Lay low or pay
Speaking of "unarmed", we"re coming up on the 2 year anniversary of St. Michael Brown's death in Ferguson Mo. All this bullshit about, if you don't have a firearm you are somehow completely harmless is getting old.
It would be even nicer if [we could] correct the perception that the deceased car thief was "unarmed..."
Michael Brown was "unarmed" only because the officer he assaulted managed to regain control of his service weapon and blow a couple of Brown's grabby fingers off in the process.
Some people can't take even the broadest hint, though.
The officers body cams were on just prior to this incident beginning. The officers either inadverdantly shut them off, thinking they were turning them on, or the cameras were turned off by the airbags which deployed when their vehicle was rammed.
I don't understand why the command staff of this dept. caters to those "activists" protestors.
Why do they have Johnson's cell phone number?
Why are they admitted to hq for a sit down with the executive staff?
They are not family members of these fine upstanding law abiding citizens that interact with the police.
They are not attorney's of them either.
They have no personal interest in these cases.
They have absolutely no knowledge of police procedures or law.
Why are they involved or allowed to question anything that we as police do?
The problem is that Special Ed, his minions and IPRA, don't think that a 3000-lb car IS a weapon.
All this goes to show is to remain Fetal at all time, let the black community do as they what until liberal America start to realize that the black lives matter movement is organized by criminals
I really don't like the way things are going especially with this BLM crap. I saw the video with the woman in her car and her baby in the back while she loaded her shotgun. How about the woman on the stage saying "White people to the back. This is a black and brown march." Wow this world is fucked anymore. Let a white person saying "Blacks to the back" for any reason. Could you imagine..."Blacks and browns this is the St. Patrick's Day parade. Get yo ass off da curb since this is a white thing. All you all get to the back of the parade."
Misleading as well is the constant reference to the criminal as a 'teen.' A 18 y/o male qualifies as an Adult.
Since 'parents' can't be bothered to tell there children basic 'stop-drop the weapon' conduct, the 'parents' expect the schools to do all the teachin'. Be a cold day in hell before CPS drops sexual education classes for Police conduct 101.
This may not get posted. I was in the military, on a nuclear submarine. We had training prior to boarding the sub, then constant drills. We were not allowed to make "mistakes" or people died. The handling of nuclear weapons and radioactive materials put lives at risk each and everyday. So to just simply say the body cameras did not work because oops human error or it was a mistake does not wash with me. Check your gear prior to coming on duty, make sure it works. Do not understand why you cannot let it run during your entire shift and just delete toilet breaks or lunch breaks from the feed. Not a cop but a citizen who wants this insane war to stop before it tears the city apart.
Good luck telling Lori Lightfoot that when you beg her and the Police Board for your job back!
Has anyone here read her PATF report? She used Weak anecdotal evidence to smear every (white) CDP member as racist. How can some one who is so biased still be on the Police Board? Us officers are supposed to be robots, but does she really leave her privilege and biases at home?
The young man is from an impoverished background with poor parenting, give him a break, will ya? He did not know any better. And, as you now know there is no presumption of innocence for anything a police officer does.
Don't say Perp.
"Perp" is New York police jargon. Lets get it straight. Here in Chicago It's "Offender"
The offender clearly attempted to injure the responding, arresting officers. He used his vehicle as a deadly weapon. He then exited his vehicle for what purpose. Are we to assume to flee the scene. Or was it to cause further harm to or disarm the injured officers? Just saying. Stay fetal and make the mayor eat his words.
If Kim Fox is the SA they are getting charged, for sure
@Fed Up @ 12:12.00AM
Let me translate for you.
This kid was a victim = Dindu Nuffins
this kid had a future = He was turnin' his life around
this kid had no weapon = unarmed teen
this kid was good = He a goot boy
Let's re-cap: He dindu nuffin,he was a goot boy and he was turnin' his life around.
Yep, hit's all three major ghetto talking points.
Deja Vu all over again....
The lawyer, Oppenheimer, used to be a ASA who talked about never going to the dark side and scumbag defendants.
Now, he's this huge crusader for social justice---for 33% of the award.
His dead client was a massive POS, so he doubles down on making the cops look like jags
Supe was in 004 a few days ago. Berating everyone and all ranks in attendance. Very butthurt about the blog and what others are saying about him.
Hey Special Ed!
Since I know you read (or have this read) to you, here's my issue with you.
You condemned the officers actions when you should have stood by then! You STRIPPED them! Why! No one acted with criminal intent, except the shitbag driving the stolen vehicle. There hasn't even been an investigation! You make them guilty until proven innocent. You should've left the officers, with their 30 day desk leave (another farce), then allowed them to return to duty unless IPRA and the States Atty agree to any charges. You could've shown the troops you stood by us. You failed.
Instead, you take your matching orders from gangbanging community 'yute', revruns, and any activist with a social media account. Shame on you, you spineless douche!
Lots of luck getting any activity from ANYONE. I hope homicides and violent crime surge under your reign. You made it clear the only thing you value is public opinion.
You are the WORST. EVER.
World news and the attack on police by elected-media-exempt ranks-black lies murder they just keep bastardizing the police constantly:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/02/chicago-deadliest-july-10-yrs-gun-control/
Think if this happened at any company the CEO would be thrown out immediately, rahm and his crew would be on the street! They are gambling with peoples lives and strangely nothing proper is being done to address the black problem:
*Hire2-4,000 more police
*toni resign with rahm your a failure keep criminal savages caged for a long time
*elected tout a campaign to respect police
*pass that hate crime law against police that you shelved on Alderman Burke!
That Tribune article in the second link is rather interesting. All the comments I read are all Pro Police and the usual anti-police Leftist Trolls haven't posted a single comment.
(maybe their check from Rahm bounced and they're on strike. LOL)
How did J'Amal Green become spokesman for the O'Neal ghetto lottery tour?
What an incestuous relationship.
Isn't he still on bail for several felonies...... yet he's the family spokesman.?
Yeah this kid is fucked. Actually they all are but most of all the shooter who fired the last shot. And they were just getting old enough to where they could laugh at us older dogs who dont want to chase stolen cars.
Its getting hard to feel sorry for them. Working these fast districts for OT I see them flying around at night over bull shit like it actually means something. I mean I understand what it was like to be young and all but times have fucking changed, we lost the war. Pretend your French and move on. Its not YOUR fucking neighborhood.
It would be easier to put body cameras on the Thugs
Criminals have been praised for all actions during the last 8 years , looting , arson , destroying police vehicles , blocking traffic on highways , preventing Christmas shoppers from entering stores son the mag mile , disrupting speeches by any conservative , attacking , stealing. Hats from Trump supporters . Crimes of violence is way up , but hidden , news reporters afraid to describe the race of offenders , strong armed robbers are now described as teens wilding , just normal behavior for some . Single parent birth rates way up .
What is missing from the story is the car he stole was a very rare Jaguar XKR. The car will probably be totaled by the insurance company and parted out.
And unlike the person driving (delivering a midnight snack to the homeless no doubt), it is not a renewable item.
The CDL license holding sup was in roll calls today in 004 trying to save face... He wasn't very professional at all, looks and sounds like he got promoted way over his head! Is it true he's a relative of michelle obama?
8/03/2016 01:13:00 AM
That was the black Mike Shields. He was a Deputy Chief but was demoted back to Lt. Unknown if he is still on the job.
The officers should have stayed fetal and none of this would have happened to them. The stolen car would have been found in a lot in Englewood with no gas in it by now and returned to the owner without incident. I don't know what it's going to take to wake some of you guys up. You can't possibly be on this job and be that dumb can you? PROACTIVE POLICING IS OVER! Try to get that through your thick skulls.
I am REALLY sick of this "unarmed" bullshit we see all the time. An unarmed man can beat a man to death, too. Sometimes easier. Two things are all we should give a shit about: was the person failing to follow lawful orders? And we're they acting aggressively? The rest is all liberal-media PC balderdash.
Should of let him go enjoy the summer nite with his new jag after all he is black or brown skinned. It's all the white devils fault they act like they do. His life mattered (not really) the officers lifes on the scene did not. This is the normal thinking by blm the reverends and on and on. Never thought I would see this way of thinking throughout this doomed country.
There will plenty of cameras available on Bud Billiken and Labor Day weekends. There will be more cameras than cops. Stick together!
This Buds For Them!
Their going to roast that kid over not having his camera on
It's a great this to hear happy moments in thug irony.
But this has a Rahm $ettlement written all over it. It will also be a Kim Fox shining moment too.
There will be empty lockers and maybe, just maybe a benefit.
(Anyone out there get a PSMV approved lately...please chime in.)
There are certain things Hard Chargers don't realized until it's too late that are beyond arrest and any subsequent allegation.
Factor in the weasel defense attorneys who all contribute to Cook Co judge political camps and pacs.
The judges in turn funnel some back to the mayor and aldermen.
There hasn't been a fair and balanced trial in Cook county in 100 years.
Keep chasing and locking up joe for what?
To stay on a "team" ? To stay on a watch ?
I'm surprised that their are still guys out there who love telling their recent war stories.
What lesson HASN'T been learned yet ?
I'm sure Eddie-the stripper has already let his buddies J'Amal n that Reccord character test out our new equipment so they're familiar with it.
More of a learning curve what we all know crook county judges are corrupt no wonder coppers can't get a fair shake no clout your done got clout like daleys nephew vaneko murder 6 months in catered to cell yes it's all legit:
http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/mihalopoulos-without-clout-judge-says-no-appeal-boring-job/
The law is based on what's reasonable and prudent. I have come to the conclusion it's time to just call it like it is; much of the BLM is either incapable or unwilling to act, think, and speak reasonably. They have had their chance it's time to realize there is no way to communicate reasonably with them. so Obey the law or suffer the consequences. But our liberal politicians pander to these folks as do the judges. So Politicians and Judges the balls in your court. Support us or support them. You can't do both.
Can anyone confirm that at the 010th district National Night Out event there was a re-enactment/performance of the shooting of Laquan McDonald done by some residents of the community as part of the entertainment portion of the event????
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calls today in 004 trying to save face... He wasn't very professional at all, looks and sounds like he got promoted way over his head! Is it true he's a relative of michelle obama?
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No, he has zero connection to Michelle Obama by blood. If you're confused about how obamas name comes up I'll tell you bc knowing the facts are important.
Fact 1. I know the sup and he's a good man, but as his friend I'll say right to his face he's not meant for this job.
Fact 2. The sups first wife cheated on him with a certain exempt that is a cousin to Michelle Obama. That exempt was a jagoff and actually laughed when he learned Eddie discovered the affair. So whatever, that exempt is gone and Eddie Johnson is probably the only black guy in the Chicago democratic organization that did NOT vote for Obama.
Fact 4. Similar to a new parent, the new sup is learning very quickly you can't make everyone happy. I suspect the BLM bullshit is fizzling fast with the sup.
Fact 5.
The sup is very upset at the blog. It sounds like he reads it daily. He won't stop harping on it. He needs to man up and take control of his department.
OT Did anyone listen to Andy Shaw on WBBM radio today around 1025hrs. Did he make an inflamatory remark about the police ?
And in other News the Not law and Order President went and commuted the sentences of 214 more federal inmates Wednesday, the largest single-day grant of commutations in the nation's history.
Obama has now used his constitutional clemency power to shorten the sentences of more federal inmates than any president since Calvin Coolidge
When will anyone ?Politician , Reverend ,Community activist , Parent , News Reporter grow a set and tell the world . If this kid would only have obeyed the law,
not attempt to murder a police officer by running him over , choking him , attempting to disarm him , attacking him with a knife , gun, baseball bat , 2x4 etc this would never happen. It can be prevented , learn to Respect Law Enforcement , Follow Verbal Commands . Some people rather collect $, incite riots , cause looting and more Racial Tension .
That asshole wasn't behind the wheel when he got shot. There is video showing him running from the po who fired the shots. These idiots continue to make shit hard for everyone else! I have zero sympathy for the dead criminal nor do I have any for idiots who refuse to follow the rules
Why should they learn anything, their always correct and the Poleece are always pickin on them. Next we'll get he blame for Zika.
Don't care about thug shootings, they get what they give.
Stop reporting them.
to hall of fame chris chelios during 7th inning stretch....thank you, thank you! at least one athlete never forgets where he came from!
Why is it that if we hit an offender's car with our car it is considered deadly force, when when they hit ours it isn't. I can't understand why our department would make such an asinine determination.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This may not get posted. I was in the military, on a nuclear submarine. We had training prior to boarding the sub, then constant drills. We were not allowed to make "mistakes" or people died. The handling of nuclear weapons and radioactive materials put lives at risk each and everyday. So to just simply say the body cameras did not work because oops human error or it was a mistake does not wash with me. Check your gear prior to coming on duty, make sure it works. Do not understand why you cannot let it run during your entire shift and just delete toilet breaks or lunch breaks from the feed. Not a cop but a citizen who wants this insane war to stop before it tears the city apart.
8/03/2016 06:40:00 AM
Listen buddy. This is not a nuclear submarine first of all. The radiation must've went to your brain. And the fact that something "does not wash" with your now civilian opinion based on the one sided factoids you've been reading from the media...well, we could give a shit. I was in the military too, for a decade, as were half of the guys and gals on CPD. We did everything and were deployed everywhere. But whether these coppers were in the military is either here nor there. These body cameras of there's WERE working, not broke as you put it, but on a 30 second non audio loop, until turned on. Going to the bathroom and turning them off is easy, because most of the time when you're taking a crap someone isn't trying to ram you with a 3000 pound hunk of steel. The point is, is that on THIS job, incidents happen extremely fast, from just driving around non chalantly, and then BAM, human reaction and instinct is to react with defensive muscle memory. Your training comes in. Basic defense tactics. We have only had these fkin cameras barely a few weeks now in most parts of town. there hasn't been enough time for this to sink in as repetitive muscle memory, and even if it had been a year from now it still is a valid excuse for anyone to not turn it on instantly if someone is trying to KILL YOU with a stolen car. When someone Rams your car and attempts to take your life with a 3000lb hunk of steel are you going to instantly think to press the button 2 times? No, your not. You react to neutralize the threat. Basic animal instincts. Go back to your nuclear sub, and stop believing everything you read. The media twists facts and jumps to conclusions. Our superintendent is a spineless coward, as well as our mayor. They don't want to upset "the kamoonittee" The city and the dept are lost, morale is 0. Lawsuits all around. Racist ACLU, doJ looking at all the wrong places, Kim Foxx coming, media ripping us apart and giving Father Faker more time than the President, Deano is nowhere to be scene. All we have to hold onto is Trump getting elected and a new pro police administration coming in. Only going to get worse before it's better if Hillary the panderer gets in. Should've been a mailman
Sounds like even the TMA's might be on board for Bud Billiken a lot of them are on CPD list and they now realize there needs to be a mass hiring. Thanks so much for what once was a small grassroots movement and is now getting a full head of steam. To the Tact Lt and Sgt in 7 threatening everyone, you can't fire us. Without CPD and TMA'S Bud could be beyond chaotic. I hope our exempts and White Shirts have their yellow vests and traffic whistles because the parade is all yours now.
Stop working, don't call out loud reports, wait for the calls to come in. Code 19B until someone is shot, give report to victim/next of kin and move on to the next. Lights and sirens to all calls to alert the "community" of your arrival. Until the nonsense stops, the above way should be every officers new general order. Or you can request county or statesville to open a blue pod so you'll be with all your hard charging buddy's.
Police Officers can use deadly force in making an arrest when the arrest is being defeated by resistance or escape and the suspect committed a forcible felony with the infliction or threatened infliction of great bodily harm. This is the law. Laws mean nothing today.
Yup, just like that newbi-sergeant in a south side district who had his camera turned on while interviewing a complainant.
Remember to STAY HOME and relax. They CAN NOT fire you, even though we are being threatened. So what our team gets sent back to the watch, this is the first time we all agree on anything. I'm sure after Bud and Labor Days the city will start expediting the hiring process. Remember THIS BUDS FOR THEM!
.....I guess....cameras are ....(gulp) ....racist......
A big shout out to our Unit Rep in 002 for letting the youngsters know that they can't be fired for Labor Day and Bud Billiken for simply excercising a contractual benefit. Our solidarity over a couple weekends will determine the terms of our next contract. The City is initially pushing for a PAY CUT and minimal hiring, let's show them how we feel.
"The law is based on what's reasonable and prudent. I have come to the conclusion it's time to just call it like it is; much of the BLM is either incapable or unwilling to act, think, and speak reasonably. They have had their chance it's time to realize there is no way to communicate reasonably with them. so obey the law or suffer the consequences."
8/03/2016 12:19:00 PM
Parents of teenagers jailed for opening fire on police officers blame Black Lives Matter saying the movement WANTS people to shoot at police
* Marquell Rentas, 17, and and his cousin Trenton Nace, 18, were arrested Friday for opening fire on police in Columbia, Pennsylvania
* The officers were not hit or injured by any of the bullets
* Police report states that Marquell told officers during the arrest:'I ain't no p***y, I was shooting at you. F*** you, police'
* 'They are in jail for doing what Black Lives Matter wanted them to do: shoot at cops,' said Marquell's mother Luz and Trenton's father Roberto Rentas
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3721572/Parents-teenagers-jailed-opening-fire-police-officers-blame-Black-Lives-Matter-saying-movement-WANTS-people-shoot-police.html
Whispers are that 9 had a supervisors meeting and one white shirt was missing. Wheeeeeezy where arrrrrrrrre you ?
Its nice to hear S.E.I.U. supporting us and F.O.P. with both Labor Day Weekend and Bud Billiken. It's about time unions support each other for the better of their prospective members. Can't wait to see the backlogs on Labor Day and sweaty bosses directing traffic at Bud with Ja'Mel and Phleger because we have had enough. Let it go !
Information Services Division should share the blame for the camera malfunction in this case. ISD handles the issuing and support of Body Worn cameras. These are the types of problems you will experience when you have a Police Captain in charge of Body Worn Cameras with no technical experience whatsoever. Deputy Clueless Useless Lewin better do something quick before this clueless useless Captain causes CPD and ISD to be sued.
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...
Don't say Perp.
8/03/2016 07:15:00 AM
Is "Waste of Oxygen Never Mattered to Mom until a potential lotto ticket payout shit-bird" okay?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This may not get posted. I was in the military, on a nuclear submarine. We had training prior to boarding the sub, then constant drills. We were not allowed to make "mistakes" or people died. The handling of nuclear weapons and radioactive materials put lives at risk each and everyday. So to just simply say the body cameras did not work because oops human error or it was a mistake does not wash with me. Check your gear prior to coming on duty, make sure it works. Do not understand why you cannot let it run during your entire shift and just delete toilet breaks or lunch breaks from the feed. Not a cop but a citizen who wants this insane war to stop before it tears the city apart.
8/03/2016 06:40:00 AM
Thank you for your service but you are completely wrong. How can you compare the Navy to the CPD? Body cameras were given to officers without any adequate training. A 10 minute video and a sgt at roll call who was useless. The equipment is always purchased from the lowest bidder and without servicing. You mention mistakes and I say the horrible lack of training and support. I did not know police can delete video? You must be an expert on the cameras purchased by the city? Do not worry about the "insane war". More officers found the solution. Stay fetal my friends.
3, 2, 1..... Some one(s) just had a bus fall on them, forget getting rolled up under a bus.
OT
Steve Wilcos has the nerve to criticize Chicago police. He is labeled as a expert. The only police work he did was hide in a restaurant while he worked in 014.
http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/03/steve-wilkos-police-shootings/
This is a third world shit hole! You Officer are a winning Megamillion lottery ticket everytime you shoot one of these valedictorians! Bazinga!
Six years ago teachers were the scapegoat for all of society ill. NOW Tag you're it! They figured the police need to be trained developed with all that available federal money. Not to mention if they can get away with not paying your pension they will. This is all about money. Green Cold Hard Cash!
Stay Safe and fetal!
Chicago Teacher
Violating dept policy is NOT the same as violating the law.
This may not get posted. I was in the military, on a nuclear submarine. We had training prior to boarding the sub, then constant drills. We were not allowed to make "mistakes" or people died. The handling of nuclear weapons and radioactive materials put lives at risk each and everyday. So to just simply say the body cameras did not work because oops human error or it was a mistake does not wash with me. Check your gear prior to coming on duty, make sure it works. Do not understand why you cannot let it run during your entire shift and just delete toilet breaks or lunch breaks from the feed. Not a cop but a citizen who wants this insane war to stop before it tears the city apart.
I am gonna guess that you were not on camera the entire time that you were working on the sub. If I am wrong I apologize, but the Police officer can not just delete feeds. Every thing the camera copies gets downloaded to the mainframe, so the camera can not be on the entire tour of duty. Also, you can not compare working on a nuclear sub to policing the Ghetto of Chicago. As long as no one pushed the launch button on the sub the radiation is contained. The launch button in the ghetto is pushed every few minutes. Thank you for your service in the military, but until you police the ghetto you should probably not make such judgemental statements. You are way off base.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The lawyer, Oppenheimer, used to be a ASA who talked about never going to the dark side and scumbag defendants.
Now, he's this huge crusader for social justice---for 33% of the award.
His dead client was a massive POS, so he doubles down on making the cops look like jags
8/03/2016 08:04:00 AM
Oppenheimer has gone to the dark side and beyond.
I'd call him a bottom feeder but that would be an insult to bottom feeders.
He's a theatrical piece of shit..... playing the ghetto lottery for his 33% cut.
Supe was in 004 a few days ago. Berating everyone and all ranks in attendance. Very butthurt about the blog and what others are saying about him.
"Hey Special Ed!
Since I know you read (or have this read) to you, here's my issue with you.
You condemned the officers actions when you should have stood by then! You STRIPPED them! Why! No one acted with criminal intent, except the shitbag driving the stolen vehicle..."
~Snip!~
"Lots of luck getting any activity from ANYONE. I hope homicides and violent crime surge under your reign. You made it clear the only thing you value is public opinion.
You are the WORST. EVER."
8/03/2016 08:48:00 AM
We hope Big-Head Ed, Gene Williams, Nakia, Maryet
and all the rest of the hateful, cheating incompetents
end up ass-joked and shit-broke behind all of this.
Butt-Hurt over being laid the fuck out on the blog?
Bullshit.
Ed knows he deserves every slap and kick
he gets here.
And to show up at a roll-call and berate
his subordinates?
Typical no-class, bully-assed
CPD Gold Star bullshit.
Do the right thing m/fer! Be honorable.
Act like you've had some home training and you
won't have time to whine about getting your
ass ate the fuck up on SCC.
P.S.
Take a re-tread on how to read, interpret and
apply General Orders and The Law.
YOU will be standing alone taking it up
your clay-pipe for violating Police Officers
due process... Rahm is just going to laugh
because he was able to chump you into
wearing the Stupidintendent's star because
you wanted to keep Lt. Side-Piece from getting
fired and possibly going to prison and dragging
you along with her.
"Appears to have violated department policy"
exists on the same plane as: "Cuz I'm da boss."
Chris Chelios gave a shout out to CPD at the 7th inning stretch. Thank you.
Supe E-Diddy trying to do a good job and wants to help people. Nothing less, nothing more.
"And in other News the Not law and Order President went and commuted the sentences of 214 more federal inmates Wednesday, the largest single-day grant of commutations in the nation's history.
"Obama has now used his constitutional clemency power to shorten the sentences of more federal inmates than any president since Calvin Coolidge"
8/03/2016 02:14:00 PM
All serious drug cases -- and some drugs and armed.
Considering the effects of drugs especially on his own "community," the word "non-violent offender" somehow doesn't apply.
Hypocrite wouldn't even put his own library in Washington Park. Too much "non-violence" going on around there. Put it east of the IC embankment in Jackson Park, at least you got a real solid earth berm against any blasts from the west, in a metaphorical sense.
I wonder what happened to the beautiful formal flower garden in the park east of Stony around there. Me and Mom and Dad used to ride our bikes there, sit and watch the bees and maybe have a little picnic.
Had to watch yourself after 1964...
"Single parent birth rates way up."
8/03/2016 09:16:00 AM
As I was told maybe three decades back, "Who get married just to have a baby?"
No connection anymore.
When was the last time anyone heard the word "illegitimate" used?
"You puttin a stigma on it!"
Yeah. Social standards, disapproval -- indeed, scorn -- serve as a control.
That is why all standards must go. Much easier to pull down than to live up to -- in the short run.
In the long run, well...
Look around you.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can anyone confirm that at the 010th district National Night Out event there was a re-enactment/performance of the shooting of Laquan McDonald done by some residents of the community as part of the entertainment portion of the event????
8/03/2016 12:52:00 PM
ABSOLUTELY TRUE! But the ending was different. Laquan was carrying his H.S diploma in a kevlar case inside his hoodie and he wasnt't killed by the 16 shots. He survived and lived to advise Hillary Clinton on her presidential campaign. She learned that the police are evil and vowed to destroy them all. At her inaugaration, Laquan gets killed by a drunk Simeon H.S. Basketball player celebrating their regional championship. George Lucas is already buying the rights to the reenactment to make it his next movie.
Eddie resign please! Sign the petition to get rid of this screw. Don't like the blog? Tough tits Eddie. You are allowing activists into you meetings. What are you crazy? Fool, nobody but nobody goes to those meetings but the police. PO PO. You Dig Eddie ?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
to hall of fame chris chelios during 7th inning stretch....thank you, thank you! at least one athlete never forgets where he came from!
8/03/2016 03:31:00 PM
I was there!
What a stand-up guy!!
New Montra, No Bud parade. If you are forced to work it and your not sick. Stay fetal!!!!
25 years on this job and disgusted. I only respond to assigned jobs and nothing more
Steve Wilkos bitching about cpd ?? This d bags hardest days on the job were working Disney on ice ! The guy is a pos .
THIS IS A GOOD ONE
Tremendous story and great photo spread on Britain's "armed police" -- which they have found to be increasingly necessary.
Want to see some really good equipment -- and some stalwart fellas -- have a look.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3721270/Extra-armed-police-patrol-London-TODAY-attacks-Europe-amid-warnings-two-YEARS-train-officers-outside-capital.html
Now have a look at the other side of the Channel to get an idea of one source of the threat. Why this "Calais Jungle" of 7,000 "migrants" is allowed right next to the port road, and right near the entrance to the Channel Tunnel, is anyone's guess. The Brits gave France over 65 million dollars worth of razor wire -- and the illegal arrivals in Britain have still tripled.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3720172/Shocking-scenes-rioting-Calais-Jungle-migrants-burn-lorry-bound-UK-threaten-driver-CHAINSAW.html
Go to tmz and comment on our ex brother "never did shit Wilkos " ... bring out some of the nasty things he did back stage on Springer
"You condemned the officers actions when you should have stood by then! You STRIPPED them! Why! No one acted with criminal intent, except the shitbag driving the stolen vehicle..."
~Snip!~"
8/03/2016 07:33:00 PM
Why?
Because Ja'Mal X buzzed him on his personal phone to tell him to, and because Lemon Record was ushered into headquarters with a police escort, probably to use that idiot bullhorn of his at point-blank range on everyone in the meeting room.
I got a crisis in confidence over our city's new and unelected leaders here.
How about you?
Now HERE is what this city needs. DivvyS__t.
Ari Emanuel can probably make a move on it and "scoop" himself another $20 billion, turning this into another behemoth corporation.
An app too far? Pooper claims to be able to send someone to clean up after your dog
* App claims to 'take the hassle and mess out of cleaning up after your dog'
* Hopes to sign up hundreds of 'scoopers' in major cities to pick up waste
* Owners will simply use app to tell their nearest 'scooper' where to go
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3704246/An-app-far-Pooper-claims-able-send-clean-dog-thankfully-s-probably-joke.html
(Co-founder says -- no joke, already signing people up.)
Do you three go getters think it was worth it now? You put yourselves in that situation, what part of stop being proactive didn't you understand? The sad part is there are more idiots on this job that will be the next you tube sensation, officer sent to prison, or thrown under the bus by Fat Eddie.
9.5 tutu ballerina dancer doubled water rates his term , now wants a 7% increase every year . Blames Pensions again , attempt to turn citizens against loyal employees. No end of gold braid , reduction of alderman , reduction of city crews , no talk of wasted TIF , sweetheart private contract deals , water department over staffed with flunky employees that take readings , any real work. Outside contractor .
Now a question I hope one of our investigative news reporters can answer . Did ballerina ,9.5 ever collect the $20,000,000 in over due payments owed by our south suburban dead beats with interest .
Did he cut body guard detail , children getting murdered every week while he has drivers , tail cars , police officers sitting around his home .
"Why is it that if we hit an offender's car with our car it is considered deadly force, when when they hit ours it isn't."
8/03/2016 03:31:00 PM
This might work out OK. In a situation where deadly force is JUSTIFIED, run over the motherf__er.
"Police have a new crime-fighting tool..."
Some time back, I heard of a cop in Canada -- of all places -- who did this, and he came out just fine. "Took quick and decisive action to protect the public."
Amazing.
Fact 1. I know the sup and he's a good man, but as his friend I'll say right to his face he's not meant for this job.
8/03/2016 01:24:00 PM
Fact 1.- The supe is a coward,pandering to the BLM assholes.
Fact 2.- The supe is a coward,throwing good officers,(who were doing the right thing),under the bus before any investigation was initiated.
Fact 3.- You will NEVER convince any CPD officers that "he's a good man".His actions prove otherwise.
"They figured the police need to be trained & developed with all that available federal money."
8/03/2016 06:33:00 PM
There won't BE any available federal money if Rahm sticks to the "Sanctuary City" line. The Feds have decided that this policy is illegal and they will withhold this money from cities that don't toe the line. Rahm is specifically called out by the Inspector General as being uncooperative.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/29/california-risks-135m-in-federal-grants-over-sanctuary-city-policy.html
This is a huge story, a tremendous "pushback" against the whole open-borders crowd -- that's why there's hardly any news coverage. You'd expect Gutierrez and the rest to be shrieking, "No Human Being Is Illegal" crowds surging in the streets...
>sound of crickets<
"Stay Safe and fetal!
"Chicago Teacher"
Thanks! You do the same.
My first priority in a deadly force situation is to eliminate the threat, not turn a camera on.
"Glass Block Cross Clergy"
8/03/2016 01:51:00 AM
GAAhaha. I love it.
$$$$$$
Stop working, don't call out loud reports, wait for the calls to come in. Code 19B until someone is shot, give report to victim/next of kin and move on to the next. Lights and sirens to all calls to alert the "community" of your arrival. Until the nonsense stops, the above way should be every officers new general order. Or you can request county or statesville to open a blue pod so you'll be with all your hard charging buddy's.
8/03/2016 03:56:00 PM
You understand calling out loud reports is because of officer safety, correct?
Anonymous said...
This may not get posted. I was in the military, on a nuclear submarine. We had training prior to boarding the sub, then constant drills. We were not allowed to make "mistakes" or people died. The handling of nuclear weapons and radioactive materials put lives at risk each and everyday. So to just simply say the body cameras did not work because oops human error or it was a mistake does not wash with me. Check your gear prior to coming on duty, make sure it works. Do not understand why you cannot let it run during your entire shift and just delete toilet breaks or lunch breaks from the feed. Not a cop but a citizen who wants this insane war to stop before it tears the city apart.
8/03/2016 06:40:00 AM
Here is the difference and you stated it.........you trained and then did constant drills.
The training for the body cams consisted of a computer based module and then a 1/2 roll call training session..
Big difference.
Stay Safe and fetal!
Chicago Teacher
8/03/2016 06:33:00 PM
a chicago public school teacher should be armed. How in the hell can you go to work every day?
Obama has now used his constitutional clemency power to shorten the sentences of more federal inmates than any president since Calvin Coolidge
8/03/2016 02:14:00 PM
Yes, actually more then the past nine presidents, combined!! Most of these were life sentences for major drug dealers. The progressives and the President are pushing for a 20 year cap on non-violent felonies, no matter how bad the rap sheet is.
...and over in Australia...
Police say 'second-guessing' when to pull their guns puts lives in danger-
* New Queensland Police Union boss fears deaths if officers hesitate
* Mick Barnes has begun his new role as QPU General Secretary
* Says police are concerned they'll be disciplined for drawing weapon
* Mr Barnes is concerned about safety of officers facing violent ice users
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3720970/Police-say-second-guessing-draw-weapon-puts-lives-danger-officer-suspended-pointing-gun-speeding-driver.html
OT
Steve Wilcos has the nerve to criticize Chicago police. He is labeled as a expert. The only police work he did was hide in a restaurant while he worked in 014.
Not only that, his show sucks. Got a bone from springer.
Anonymous said...
If Kim Fox is the SA they are getting charged, for sure
8/03/2016 07:57:00 AM
She's the reason why a recent college grad in my family won't be applying for a police job anywhere in Cook County.
If someone is coming at you with a car, you should be able to take any and all action to protect yourselves.
Maybe the idiots at City Hall, minus the alderman who support the police, should take a look at what happened with the truck in Nice, France.
To the sub guy, the military would not put and 18yr in postion that wasnt dummy proof, so all you have to do, is do as your told, not make split second decesions in a dynamically evolving life or death situation, were you may not have all the info and no one is giving you the answers. Dont compare something that doesnt relate or "wash" sir.
Don't call put loud reports-so an unknowing officer can drive into gunfire. Idiot. Fucking use your brain.
"Listen buddy. This is not a nuclear submarine first of all...blah blah blah...well, we could give a shit....These body cameras of there's WERE working, not broke as you put it, but on a 30 second non audio loop, until turned on. Going to the bathroom and turning them off is easy, because most of the time when you're taking a crap someone isn't trying to ram you with a 3000 pound hunk of steel. The point is, is that on THIS job, incidents happen extremely fast, from just driving around non chalantly, and then BAM, human reaction and instinct is to react with defensive muscle memory. Your training comes in. Basic defense tactics. We have only had these fkin cameras barely a few weeks now in most parts of town. there hasn't been enough time for this to sink in as repetitive muscle memory, and even if it had been a year from now it still is a valid excuse for anyone to not turn it on instantly if someone is trying to KILL YOU with a stolen car."
All standard pushback...Demean, diminish, insult, magnify. Muscle memory my ass. Yet through some miracle you manage to turn on the lights and call in. Call it what it really is, passive resistance. Because you still think there should be a valid excuse a year from now. If your paycheck depended on figuring it out, you'd have it down pat in 5 minutes.
I am retired, thank God. However, I have a son on the job. This superintendent is a disgrace to the fine police officers of this city. I pray for the safety of our officers that they will end their tour and return home safely to their loved ones who too sacrifice for this city.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Glass Block Cross Clergy"
8/03/2016 01:51:00 AM
GAAhaha. I love it.
$$$$$$
8/03/2016 11:15:00 PM
NYAAAAHAHAHAHA!
😜😜😜
Especially when the Glass Block Cross
is set into the exterior wall at a cute angle...
It makes a powerful statement.
No?
The military wouldn't put an 18 yr old in a dynamic situation where life and death scenarios are thrown at you every day ? Spend some time in the infantry in a time of war. I can promise we have seen more life and death scenarios than most cops. So stop acting like it's something hardcore or special to be the police.
Hey Nuclear Asshat, you do realize you're on a police blog! You are the typical liberal piece of shit, if you don't like the answers you blame the Police. The truth hurts doesn't it bleeding heart! We didn't tell you how to do your job on the sub so don't assume you know what the men and women that have to make split second decisions everyday do. Apples and Oranges!!! Next time you need police service call BLM and then say a prayer, S U B human....
But with that said. I will not leave a dam camera on recording every conversation myself and my partner has. And I'm not recording every move we make .
A Superintendent with no balls will not talk to the media, until ordered by his Facebook / felon friend to do so, and not a moment sooner.
But if a civilian makes a comment, we get the oh you are not the police so shut the fuck up drill.
8/03/2016 10:05:00 PM
Drill? It's the truth. You're making comparisons that have absolutely nothing to do with each other. As police, we don't care about your observations or opinions because they don't come from a position of experience or knowledge.
"Police Officers can use deadly force in making an arrest when the arrest is being defeated by resistance or escape and the suspect committed a forcible felony with the infliction or threatened infliction of great bodily harm. This is the law."
This doesn't meet the litmus test. Besides this is a administrative strip they haven't been charged criminally asshole.
"To the sub guy, the military would not put and 18yr in postion that wasnt dummy proof, so all you have to do, is do as your told, not make split second decesions in a dynamically evolving life or death situation, were you may not have all the info and no one is giving you the answers. Dont compare something that doesnt relate or "wash" sir."
8/04/2016 03:57:00 AM
The guy is just an assh_le. A lot of creative writing and salty talk combined with racial slurs.
when will alderman be required to wear body cameras , it would make the feds job a lot easier
Its nice to hear S.E.I.U. supporting us and F.O.P. with both Labor Day Weekend and Bud Billiken. It's about time unions support each other for the better of their prospective members. Can't wait to see the backlogs on Labor Day and sweaty bosses directing traffic at Bud with Ja'Mel and Phleger because we have had enough. Let it go !
8/03/2016 05:17:00 PM
The SEIU isn't your friend you fucking moron. I don't give a fuck what they are supporting. If
Anonymous Anonymous said...
But if a civilian makes a comment, we get the oh you are not the police so shut the fuck up drill.
8/03/2016 10:05:00 PM
Drill? It's the truth. You're making comparisons that have absolutely nothing to do with each other. As police, we don't care about your observations or opinions because they don't come from a position of experience or knowledge.
8/04/2016 11:24:00 AM
People have the right to express their opinion. The people regurgitating the liberal talking points end up low on the scrotum pole. Try expressing an INFORMED opinion instead.
We have only had these fkin cameras barely a few weeks now in most parts of town. there hasn't been enough time for this to sink in as repetitive muscle memory, and even if it had been a year from now it still is a valid excuse for anyone to not turn it on instantly if someone is trying to KILL YOU with a stolen car."
All standard pushback...Demean, diminish, insult, magnify. Muscle memory my ass. Yet through some miracle you manage to turn on the lights and call in. Call it what it really is, passive resistance. Because you still think there should be a valid excuse a year from now. If your paycheck depended on figuring it out, you'd have it down pat in 5 minutes.
All this above poster is demonstrating is the ignorance civilians have of our job and how easily they believe the worst; that somehow the body camera was intentionally not turned on. Sir, whoever you are, I encourage you to apply to do a ride along with police officers and see how fast situations develop. In a split second, I don't care how good your training is, you are still fallible and human. The last thing on your mind is having a recording for posterity. You revert to survival mode. I challenge you or any civilian reader on the blog to see up close and personal how the shit can hit the fan and see how you would react. Yes we ARE supposed to be trained to hit that record button. But the limited amount of training we get on this department is a travesty. We have to "train" on our own time and it takes a very long time to develop a habit sometimes months or even years. There will be bumps in the road until then and you have to expect it with new technology and training. So take your ill informed, undeserved criticism and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The military wouldn't put an 18 yr old in a dynamic situation where life and death scenarios are thrown at you every day ? Spend some time in the infantry in a time of war. I can promise we have seen more life and death scenarios than most cops. So stop acting like it's something hardcore or special to be the police.
Hey dickhead, half of us were in the Infantry. 11B and 0311 for years. We came to this job after Iraq and Trashcanistan. And on this job you see more blood sweat and tears in one Friday nite than one could ever imagine. We don't ask for anything but for your liberal ass to leave us alone and let us do our job. Now we can't without being scrutinized at every turn. So blu flu, and fuck you. Call a crackhead you fake ass POG.
All standard pushback...Demean, diminish, insult, magnify. Muscle memory my ass. Yet through some miracle you manage to turn on the lights and call in. Call it what it really is, passive resistance. Because you still think there should be a valid excuse a year from now. If your paycheck depended on figuring it out, you'd have it down pat in 5 minutes.
You're a retard. And not a cop. Next time you need help don't call the police. Figure it out yourself since you're so amazing in your own mind.
a chicago public school teacher should be armed. How in the hell can you go to work every day?
8/03/2016 11:39:00 PM
So True, Thank you!
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...
Don't say Perp.
8/03/2016 07:15:00 AM
Is "Waste of Oxygen Never Mattered to Mom until a potential lotto ticket payout shit-bird" okay?
8/03/2016 05:52:00 PM
Personally I like "The Great Unwashed"
This sock puppet is on a real rip here. He's a civilian, he's in the infantry, he rides on nuclear submarines. Even knows how to do "litmus tests." Oi, a chemist, he's.
Spare us.
"Demean, diminish, insult, magnify."
8/04/2016 07:39:00 AM
Is your rabies shot up to date?
Hey dickhead, half of us were in the Infantry. 11B and 0311 for years. We came to this job after Iraq and Trashcanistan. And on this job you see more blood sweat and tears in one Friday nite than one could ever imagine. We don't ask for anything but for your liberal ass to leave us alone and let us do our job. Now we can't without being scrutinized at every turn. So blu flu, and fuck you. Call a crackhead you fake ass POG.
You have got to be kidding me. Air condition, food, coffee, potty breaks chances to hide out, ride out few jobs. and you said more tears and sweat and blood than dudes in Fallujah etc. Gtfo. Despite my decision to be fetal due to this worthless city throwing us under the bus, this is literally the easiest job in the world. We answer jobs, listen to a few ppl yelling like children, once in awhile pull my pistol out. Do a report and go home. Yes officers get hurt, yes some nights are worse than others. But dear God stop acting like this is worse or even close to be in a combat zone 24 7 , no family , continuous gunfire and actual real scenario is.
I know for a fact most cops haven't fired their gun, nor would know what it takes to actually operate the m4. And no, carbine class doesn't teach you .
Btw. I don't ride in a submarine. That's a different guy. Someone in a sub prob has never fired their weapon.
Spare us.
8/05/2016 01:18:00 AM
Okay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAjtE7NdThA
Hey nuclear sub guy...that's cute that your training does that for you. Is it true that on a sub a 120
men go down and 60 couples come up? In fact I'm beyond thrilled with your infinite knowledge of training and what we do. The truth of the matter is no one gives a f*** about your nuclear sub days. When it's life or death and you don't have a clue what an offender has the potential of doing shit moves fast. Basing your knowledge off an area and what OEMC says a "citizen" said they had. This is coming from someone who has done three tours in the shit-hole known as Afghanistan with a special operations task force. A number of us on here are veterans so don't give us your condescending shit. I wear a body cam and do you want to know how much hands on training I received besides 2 half assed e-learning courses? Less than thirty minutes so f*** you.
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