Privatization?
- The business district in Wicker Park and Bucktown will spend $50,000 on initiatives that could include private security patrols, security cameras and partnerships with local businesses to boost the area's safety.
The sum is more than the $20,000 budgeted in July but less than the $100,000 Ald. Brian Hopkins, 2nd, and Ald. Proco "Joe" Moreno, 1st, wanted set aside from a special tax fund. They sought to hire firms, staffed mostly by off-duty and retired police officers who have arrest powers and sometimes carry guns, using $100,000 from a $1.2 million budget that comes from property taxes and is managed by businesspeople in the neighborhoods. Hopkins cited an increase in crime as the reason for the outlay.
This also popped up in the comment section:
- Hey SCC off topic but, while having lunch yesterday in Greek town I saw numerous people security/police going business to business getting owners to signup for the alderman"s new security force. WTF is this shit??? Most of the people had guns and vests some said police others said tactical, is there something we need to know about???
8/04/2016 03:44:00 AM
At Damen and Chicago while having lunch at the Subway, I saw four guys in with a duty belt, a gun, handcuffs, baton, etc. Just like what we have. They had a vest and it said "Officer" on the back. It looked so damn official. At first I thought they were Cook County guys. Then I see on their shoulder it said "Central Investigative Services". I then asked who they were and the guy just said we are officers. I asked officers as in police officers? Then he gives me a hard look and an attitude. He says, did I not just tell you I am an officer? I asked once again and then another said "we are security officers for the company central investigative services, have a nice day sir". To an average Joe, they look just like police officers.
So who's the connected individuals who have a hand in this?
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
73 Comments:
I'm a retired copper we have absolutely no arrest powers idiots and don't want any!
To the copper at subway....
"I see. I need to see your foid and perc, immediately" would have been my response. And if there was a nice little sign on the door that said "no guns", it would have been an arrest. Nice try dick heads.
That company does show up in Illinois - central investigative services
Politicians make money off this no way!
UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICE!!!!! File it already!!!!
"...hiring off-putting and retired police officers that have arrest powers.."
?????????????????
Where did that power of arrest come from? ?? All 5 of my IROCC renewals have specifically stated that I have no police power or authority.
And if they stop someone who channels their ISRs?
Wait until these "officers" start finding arrests for you
Kind of like alderman burnett's private "police" force in 011. Two years ago when bab west was the commander the Sgt of the private police got cought robbing a guy that was just trying to make a honest living selling loosies. The Sgt stole two cartons of newports and a few hundred dollars. All on camera quite the show. Armed violence, armed robbery, agg assault I tried calling Dave savani but that jagoff could care less because of the political ramifications it would have on his pathetic career. I am sure it got nolle prosequi after Burnett made a phone call. Community be careful what you wish for.
Google the name and it says website under construction.
How bout the Monterey security guys that wear the blue shirts like us and have similar shaped patches !
Don't worry, when the private cops mess up, the CPD will get all the blame.
Want to bet I will be wrong?
Great! Bullies with phony badges. What is the worst that can happen?
Ummm, if I'm not mistaken working for a "private" security firm only allows you open carry on the property you own or are an agent for. This includes off duty cops. Once off the property the LEOSA (Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act) says your weapon must be concealed. So if you see these "private security officers" walking down the street open carrying and acting like on duty police call a real on duty cop. Check out the FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin "Off-Duty Officers and Firearms " for further information. We really don't need any more police wannabes running around, we need real police. Its bad enough we have these parking enforcement people strutting around with uniforms and badges similar to ours. And slightly OT, did you know that IPRA attorneys get to carry badges, cpd radios and get a cpd take home car. I wonder how many of them use it to get free coffee at starbucks.
Only company by that name googled came up under this website
http://www.cisinv.net
Site says "under construction", mmhhhmm ya right. From Beverly, Massachusetts?
sounds fishy
I'm sure it won't be too long before they over step their charter and wind up on the front page .
Policeing is very complicated in Chicago .
Just like the tma's took over traffic duties from police for less money. We will be replaced by private police.
Who was the dude that kept getting arrested for playing cop? Sounds like a perfect job opportunity for him. Officers my ass. This will end badly.
These private guards that hold tan cards c an open carry during their entire tour. Many are roving or are are runners responding to alarms. I think you might be mistaken on this one. They aren't necessarily assigned to a fixed post or individual businesses.
There's a guy who was an investigator for the state .. He resigned/retired with 17 years on..
His security business miraculously took off so great and his company patrols several "business" districts within the city's ghettos.
The guy lives in Beverly and his business is located in Beverly..
Looks like he's doing well.. Has a fleet of marked security cars usually parked in 95th /Damen..
He's a nice enough guy, yet I can't help but wonder how one gets such a lucrative contract with the city and/or business commerce districts.. I believe there is big time alderman influence in who gets those contracts..
Anyhow, not jealous here, but just mystified at how contracts are doled out..
Maybe its Rahm's master plan. Privatize the police department. He is isolated from any officer wrong doing, the company can just change CEO'S every time something bad happens, and he dosen't have the big pension bills. If he walks on the pension ERISA will still cover a percentage. I can think of a ton of reasons for him to head in that direction. How many reasons for him not to head in that direction?
Does anyone else remember the Chapter 173 Special Police ? They had an office above the A/4 MM garage. Places like hospitals would send their security people there to be photographed, fingerprinted, and background checked. They would then get a heavy our plate badge and a commission card. That would give them peace officer powers while on duty and at their location. I'm sure that law is still on the books.
vanecko security I'm sure.........
Burke
See how long it lasts after the first on gets blown away.
It takes 4 "officers" to do a patrol?
This won't end well. One heavy handed incident when they have to deal with some drunk. Wait until they go into a place and DEMAND a discount. Yep great idea.
How about this if you really need more coppers have a special employment Entertainment district 014 or 012 or business district foot patrol 012 etc. pay the same money for 2 or 4 coppers to walk foot patrol on the times you wish make it a 4 hour detail. Of all you want is visibility having a couple uniformed POs walking around talking to people/business owners, just being visible. That's a deterrent for robberies as well as some good CAPs. Believe me I would do this over VRI cta or that park closing bullshit.
Who cares? Give them orange vests.
What's everyone so worried about? Shitheads don't listen to people with real badges and powers of arrest, what makes you think they will listen to these bozos. If your not proactively stopping bad guys, why would you stop them either? Natural selection of the concrete jungle will sort it out quickly. Personally I think it will be amusing entertainment
So those new security police will have full police powers? Do street stops? Process shoplifters in their area of operation? Will they be required to do ISR's?
Dont we have this already in Chicago with the "Marquette Park" police. They are out there patrolling and show up on jobs. How is this any different?
Your bitching and moaning isn't going to change anything except drive you crazy. relax, you got the job these security guys wish they had. So sit back do what you have to do and collect your nice paycheck, retire and enjoy the rest of your life. Nothing here will ever change.
That is the company that the activist, reverend, protester, friend to Ja'Mal Green, Glo Boy Lo-Lo and Lamon Reccord (the staring protester), police attacker (got locked up at hq), Jedidiah Brown. That is the company that he works for. He has or had pictures and videos on his fb page of him wearing what looks like a police uniform with a little star embroidered patch on his vest cover and "police" on the back. Looks just like a police uniform. Wearing a gun, pepper spray, cuffs, extra mags, the whole package.
I had asked a few people if he was a PO but no one ever came back and said yes.
Jedidiah Brown is his name.
Go look at his fb page.
Check out the videos.
He looks like a PO
He dresses like a PO
He acts like a PO
It looks like he patrols some public housing area.
If this is in fact a security firm, then the employee's should NOT have the word Police on their uniforms/vest covers. That is impersonation of a police officer.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm a retired copper we have absolutely no arrest powers idiots and don't want any!
8/05/2016 12:05:00 AM
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Hell, I had arrest powers when I was on the job before I retired and I didn't use them then.
STAY FETAL,
Go home safe and sound.
Oh, and never, ever, volunteer for anything.
0422
you get free coffee at starbucks? watch out, the next thing you know, those
ipra attorneys will be taking the doj to hotel spots and getting free lunches too.
Remember the IL Supreme Court made a ruling awhile back that private security on private property could make traffic stops and issue tickets. They ARE paving the way for private police forces.
As a law abiding citizen, this is scary to me. Our officers do a good job considering the bullshit that they are restrained by. I know my neighborhood officers, recognize their faces. It is comforting. Now to hear the new security guards are giving regular officers attitude I must say fuck off to the scab security guys. YOu want respect, give some!
this private security firms are receiving contracts at CHA public housing and scatter sites now there is a trend to increase their presence in special service areas a taxing district against local businesses in a geographical area covered by the special tax areas. The hired employees are corrections and police officers who have a personal financial incentive to work for upwards of $30.00 per hour.
The problem I have with this security service is they arrive on the scene thinking they have a legitimate role as "officers", when under state statutes and department directives: they don't; they monitor law enforcement radio frequency, the Chicago police Officer wears their outer garment depicting they are Chicago Police while they are not on the clock.
FOP needs to be more vocal against this type of security in the City of Chicago.
FOP needs to set the bar if off-duty works for these security firm depicting themselves as Chicago Police Officers, the officer has to be removed from union membership as in representation.
Good let them work Bud Billiken and Labor Day because I know my team is sitting them both out.
Citizens Arrest Citizens Arrest.♠️
Sounds like the name of the company and the design of the uniform is intended to instill confusion in the mind of a casual observer.
Gives them the idea that there's more "cops" around than there actually are, so they don't blame the 9.5 Midget.
Lots of problems here, but what happens when one of these pseudo-cops shoots some member of Da Community? Wanna bet they blame CPD all-day-long? Those Central Investigative Services people will fold up shop, and re-brand as something else...
Unless the IL Legislature gave them arrest powers and the ability to walk open-carry off-premises that they're guarding - they have nothing but the right to be arrested by the real police if they walk off-premises, or if they don't have a FOID/PERC card. Start arresting those fools - make a big show of it, get it on the news so everyone knows that "Central Investigative Services" isn't the real Police. The "Community" will take care of the rest, and that shit show company designed to sow confusion will fold up and blow away.
Study up on the carry laws office!
You could have done that scene way different. If you are going up to anyone with guns act like you are the police not a customer service rep for the City.
Very Interesting?? This **Central Investigative Services** appears to be a phantom, 'ghost', company. A google search turns up one result and that link takes you to website that is 'Under Construction'.
---- an aside: There's a similarly named security company that turns up, but that's for a company in India. I doubt that's the company encountered. ----
So maybe Daley's nephew, that R.J. Vanecko dude, has a new scheme going for him and his cronies. It's never too late, or a contract too small, when the goal is to fleece Chicago of the taxpayer's hard earned money. It's the Daley Way.
Ha, have at it. Don't call CPD to save your ass either.
I'm in the security business. Retired CPD. Most of you guys don't know what your talking about. Anyway $100,000.00 would last about a month. Either there is a lot more money here or they, the security, will be looking for homeless to work for them.
Whatever happened to the requirement that the Superintendent had to approve any security firm uniform that worked in the city?
Oh Yeah, Special Ed never read that part.
This is what we asked for, and its starting to come to fruition. In 004, I see these security goofs with teens against their cars and searching them illegally, way open for a law suit.
They have had a private security force in 004 for at least 5 years too. I know they are in 005 and 006 too.
Turn off the video games and netflix and read a little history. This is nothing new or original, substitute blue with brown shirts,an election or two and a bit of gun confiscation and the next thing ya know. Keep worrying about baseball caps and bulls**t,that's what they want.Your days are numbered along with the rest of us,I just watched the news on 02 and they are stirring it up with a spoon for this weekend,per Ja Mal Green "they be high fiven and shit after the boy got shot in the back, he was handcuffed ".... WAKE UP !
I'm all for it because, but the message has to be that the Mayor failed the tax paying citizens by not providing them with adequate police service.
You can be sure that the alderthieves are going to make a profit from their private police forces. Just imagine several alderthieves in different wards with their own private police forces with no standards, no set policies, no screening, no training and, best of all, no accountability to anyone but the alderthieves. What could possibly go wrong?
Maybe ...they will hire all the ...non-dangerous...con's that ...Obama the most fabulous is releasing,...sure they won't have a problem finding a "Glock" on the street to use.
Voting Democrat will solve everything...
Sounds like a mob outfit shaking businesses down for protection money...
This retiree is on your side, as is every retiree I know.
I am a retired Sergeant and got a call asking if I wanted a job with IPRA.
I saw them also, they look like hoodlums with an attitude who are going to do nothing but cause trouble. They did not look like police officers to me. - a citizen.
I hate to say, I told you so but I told you so.
I posted this on 24 July when Deano proposed to stop voluntary overtime for Labor Day.
"I smell a Rahm Rat.
"Time to make Rahm feel pain." OR
Is this part of Rahm's plan?
I have no faith in Dean Angelo or the FOP.
Why isn't Dean making a big deal out of the basic problem that this department has been decimated and it is Rahm's fault?
Why isn't Dean publically calling Rahm out asking him about:>
HOW MANY SWORN POLICE OFFICERS WERE EMPLOYED BY THE CPD WHEN YOU BECAME MAYOR?
AND HOW MANY ARE THERE NOW? Dean knows the answers.
This refusal to work all these O.T. missions might play right into Rahm's plan.
Think about it. BLM and others want Rahm to defund the CPD.
Two alderman said they were going to use special tax funds to hire security firms to patrol their underserved wards. If this works Rahm may be thinking of spending our tax money on a larger citywide plan and creating a bunch of private contractor security patrols which in essence would be a scab police department. These security firms would be campaign contributors and hire minimum wage, minimal screening and skills and if there is any real trouble call the Real Police. Rahm wouldn't have to pay them benefits and pensions. If they get into a shooting or other incident POOF! the company can declare bankruptcy and disappear.
Stay Safe. Unless Dean calls Rahm out for the basic lack of manpower then this may be at best a useless gesture or worse lead to creation of a private contractor/scab police department.
Note to Dean: Please have answers ready for these questions ready for the Northsiders Luncheon."
We never learn from history and there are so many parallels to this that go back all the way back to ancient Rome.
Have answers to those questions Deano.
The cameras will be rolling and the exits will be blocked.
This is how they bust your union. Same thing they're doing to the teachers.
Brian Hopkins, Moreno and Scott are three progressive liberal pos aholes who hate the cops. They are only interested in placating the cop hating liberals and hipster bike riding pot smokers in wicker park and buck town.
Their website is under construction it says. Be careful with these people, THEY ARE NOT THE POLICE!
8/05/2016 07:28:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So those new security police will have full police powers? Do street stops? Process shoplifters in their area of operation? Will they be required to do ISR's?
8/05/2016 07:49:00 AM
They already do this in the entertainment districts in 019. Guys are off duty CPD and CCSO. One firm that has a contract is owned by the kids of a cop from 019. They call 911 for anything that requires an arrest, ANOV, etc.
Website is registered to a James Danforth. A quick bit of googling returns this:
http://www.firearmsexperts.com/pdf/james-f-danforth-cv-2011.pdf
Don't know if that's the guy.
This city is incapable of solving their police pension problem (also known as meeting their legal responsibility). They will do anything to avoid hiring more cops which just adds to the "problem". So they just make the current force work overtime and hire private security to do the rest. Meanwhile 50 aldermen do the work of 25 and budgets and expenses continue to grow without any way to support or pay for them.
Keep kicking that can. It's this kind of short-sighted fiscal management that leads to bankruptcy.
If they are not fully vested to be open carrying, ie tan card and perc card and being on the clock. Additional charges can be lodged for wearing body armor while in commission of a criminal offense. Lock these posers up.
They have this on the south side in a couple of locations already. Marquette Park has had it for years. Paid by an extra fee in their property taxes. And in 06 on 79th around cottage Grove they have them walking of driving a car paid for by a SSA tax on the businesses.
I would check their credentials.
The wave of the future. Rent-a-cops with attitudes strutting around like the real thing. And our Boss's will shit their pants about them because they are either clouted or might be an option for their retirement job.
Privatized cops?!
Almost sounds like the new show coming to Fox called APB. Rich Chicago billionaire buys a police district and ups their weapons and technology.
Life imitates art or art imitating life??
Why isn't Dean making a big deal out of the basic problem that this department has been decimated and it is Rahm's fault?
****
If he said it once he's said it 100 times. Get a life. You have to be a city-wide clown.
Some towns have guys in black combat boots, black BDUs, radios, all kinds of webbing and tacticool. Retention-type ticket book holder. "CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER" across the back of the vest.
Not a birdbath out of place, not a blade of grass an inch too high -- I ga-ron-tee.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just like the tma's took over traffic duties from police for less money. We will be replaced by private police.
8/05/2016 05:01:00 AM
I keep hearing "We don't have enough Cop's" on this blog.
So that tells me you don't have enough Cops to handle Traffic Management during special events like Cubs or Sox or Bulls or Bears or Taste.
I worked TMA for 2.5 years before going to Revenue/FInance. Trust me when I say that Half the Cops that work those events do as little as possible. And everyone here knows it.
They already do this in the entertainment districts in 019. Guys are off duty CPD and CCSO. One firm that has a contract is owned by the kids of a cop from 019. They call 911 for anything that requires an arrest, ANOV, etc.
8/05/2016 09:53:00 PM
019 Districts Entertainment Detail has to much trouble staying out of trouble itself than being able to keep Clark Street free of crime.
At some point, as a taxpayer and law abiding citizen, I have to wonder why I had to keep paying for so many police officers and related vehicles, equipment, guns, etc, etc, so that they can spend nearly all their time in the hood, busting gangsters, drug dealers, and thugs, when the residents of these same neighborhoods resent and despise them for doing so? Almost none of this massive police apparatus is used to patrol and protect my quiet, rural-suburban neighborhood. I sometimes wonder if it would be better if I could keep my tax money I pay for police service, and use it to pay for private security for my own neighborhood instead?
Here comes OCP.. Where's RoboCop?
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