Dean Checks In
After the mayor, the aldercreatures and the blog address the issue, the labor organization that may end up representing these individuals says something:
- Fraternal Order of Police President Dean Angelo on Friday expressed serious reservations about the push to relax police hiring standards to attract more black and Hispanic officers.
At a time when police officers across the nation have “never been this scrutinized,” Angelo said the Chicago Police Department should be looking at raising standards — not lowering them.
Instead, Angelo said momentum is building to move in what he called the “wrong direction” — either by eliminating or minimizing the impact of a candidate’s credit history or by allowing candidates with minor drug and criminal offenses to become Chicago Police officers.
“When a police officer walks into a drug house with a search warrant and there’s mass amounts of currency there, that’s a situation where your moral and ethical compass has got to be pointed in the right direction. You have to ensure you’re not tempted by that. Same thing with drug use,” Angelo said.
Now we're forced to wonder - is this effort by the connected an indirect attack on the legal defense fund?
Labels: dumb ideas, FOP
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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Time keeps on slipping slipping slipping into the future. Our President elect will sort out this mess toward's the enemy of white people. We are calling for a halt to the treason of our way of life. Lock them up. Deport them. Just make sure you remove them from our country.
Yes, my claim to fame is dealing with mentals. I don't wish to a supervisor. I suggested seniority be a factor in a merit pick. Just coming to work day after day, year after year and dealing with the b.s. over time is a factor worthy of the consideration of a merit pick. Working a beat car is solid and working tact is great prep but now you only need 18 months for tact and now your beat car requirement for supervisor disappears. Out of touch bosses do not realize the brain-drain that has occurred within the dept. Most merit picks I have come into contact with are where they are from who they know. Seniority as a factor is solid and true. Fix it while we can before it is too late if it isn't already.
Four dead and ten wounded from Noon to Midnight Friday?
Only in Chicago.
When a police officer walks into a drug house with a search warrant and there’s mass amounts of currency there, that’s a situation where your moral and ethical compass has got to be pointed in the right direction. You have to ensure you’re not tempted by that. Same thing with drug use,” Angelo said.
Guess Jerome Finnegan and his crew left their compass at home?
OT...was at the academy and saw a picture of Granny Clampet framed on the wall. She was wearing our uniform and the third picture next to the Supt and the first deputy. Is this a joke? Is she 3rd in command? She had 2 stars on her shoulder. Seeing her in our uniform really pissed me off. It sure diminishes the meaning of our uniform and any little pride we have left. The funny thing is, just down the hallway is a picture of an officer wearing the uniform with the words "Earned not Given" under it. Someone should get a picture of the two and post it. This has to bother some of the brass that have been on this job since day one. What an embarrassment
As a Hispanic member of this department, I would like to see a better representation of Hispanic officers but I don't think lowering standards is the answer. Maybe better recruitment is the answer. I'm sure there are Hispanic and Black military members that are thinking about leaving active duty that would make outstanding officers. Though I would like to see a more equal balance of people of color, I would hope the department could find a better solution than dropping our stanards. It sets a poor precedent.
Hows that diversity thing working for all of you liberal politicians. The next relaxation of the rules will be hiring an ISIS fighter. They tried something like this in the 80's and it failed miserably.
This is an interesting response to this entire idea.... From Police One:
https://www.policeone.com/police-jobs-and-careers/articles/249464006-Police-hiring-standards-Raise-them-or-lower-them/?NewsletterID=248806044&utm_source=iContact&utm_medium=email&utm_
content=Exclusives1LeftTitle&utm_campaign=P1Member&cub_id=usr_0rSp2xVuaUb5HgvV
I heard the superintendent and his command staff were in NewYork for the last several days asking for help with the violence.
Hey Dean, where is my fucking fop book? FYI... Its nice to have it before furlo picks when I can have all of next years events marked down. Could you please tell the publisher to have them mailed out in early November next year? THANK YOU.
Damage only standard Deano don't want raised is the height requirements.
Dean is such a loser . Finally came out of his hole . You can start packing so you can leave the Fop building and take your useless people with you.
They extended merit submissions for sergeant. So who didn't get theirs in in time?
1). With the myriad of police related issues, why does the great, learned Deano usually runs away from these controversies? Is this the guy we want negotiating our contract? Vote UnDisability Dean out! He can start a new company - Lillipution Security!
2). Note how the media presents the lowered standards issue as a positive step - it will definitely increase the amount of "bad cop" stories for them to shrilly report. Maybe there'll be a job for Deano at NBC5 to provide color commentary.
Retired .38 spl +P
Hey Jackass is at 765. Is 800 possible? What is the so called media number?
And when the supervisor's order them to write tickets they'll jump up and down motherfucking them.
Hire them, I love it.
Deano's got this. Don't worry.
They did this in LA back in the 90s. The result was the Rampart scandal. I can't wait for that fun.
That last paragraph about the moral compass...boy was that the understatement of the last 2 centuries......
it seems a bit insulting to the "minorities" that they are wooing to say that they can't be eligible unless the standards our lowered. What a bunch of garbage. Poor non whites. Maybe they should make the job more professional to attract the level of candidates that are needed. Honest hard working people are out there.
Well, this is curious. After Rahm pulls this stunt liberal LA does. I wonder if there is an underlying prog group pushing this illegality?
Los Angeles County supervisors Janice Hahn and Hilda Solis are asking their colleagues to join them in setting aside $1 million in county funds that can be used to help illegal immigrants fight deportation.
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/12/16/la-county-considers-setting-aside-1-million-help-illegals-fight-deportation/
Again. What the fuck is Granny Clampetts function? Total USELESS idiot. And take off our uniform Granny
Can the FOP require it's own background checks in order to decide if the applicants should be allowed entry into the union? What are the laws on that? This way once they are hired and acting the fool the union will not need to represent them and they just get fired.
Lowering the Standards was tried in the 1980's, in Miami, New Orleans, L.A. and D.C.; the result was Murder and Corruption by the Police, many of whom were career gang members and criminals. In addition the idea of waving a salary of $70 plus Thousand dollars after 18 months, is not how to develop and recruit a force that is motivated by "Vocation" rather than Profit. If you take the police job simply for the salary, You Are Not what the Police Department or the Public Needs; in essence you are nothing but a Mercenary or worse yet, a Whore. Remember, the difference between Lovers and Whores, is that the whore does it simply for the money. This hiring problem has been on the horizon for over ten years, with population flight and the aging of our society. And the Brilliant six figure gold stars and their political hack mentors did nothing. What we need now, that we are testing people at 18, is to develop a Serious Cadet Corps. We need to take the qualified 18 yr. old applicants and mentor, nurture and develop them for 36 months, as they do in some parts of Europe. (We once did it here in the 60's. Although back then, it was a political ploy to keep Clouted young men from having to face the military Draft. Ultimately, many of those former Cadets became bosses.) At 21 those that remain in the program could be hired; already acclimated to the mission and environment. Or, are we too shortsighted to see 36 months into the future? Remember, in 36 months, Rahm will hopefully be gone, and at that point, among the nightmares that will be his 'Legacy", we do not want to see a series of police corruption scandals. Or is that what we should Expect? In the meantime, Do Nothing to in any way make Chicago/Wilmette Values look Good. Fu*k Rahm and the Dummycrat Machine! Baby"G"
Since when did any politician in this town do anything that made sense. These fuckers would hire the devil if they got his vote. Rick them. Fucking hire who ever you want you scumbags. Fund the pension. Anyone who busts their ass for these fuckers is delousional.
Funny how Dean will make a statement when it is not defending the rank and file, all show and no Balls. The standards have already been lowered with all the Imbeciles that have been merit promoted but wait Dean is waiting for his son to be made therefore he will say nothing. Stay Fetal my Friends
Silly rabbits trix are for kids!
Who is this Dean Angelo that you speak of?
its a attack on labor. $$$$$$
Now that Lil Kim relaxed the shoplifting laws, Moosejaw gets hit yet again on Clyborn.
Stolen car. Check
Smash through window. Check
Grab merchandise. check
Felony charges. Nope.
It is a concerted effort to make the CPD majority black and hispanic as the progressives believe ( and the racists)s that this will stem crime. That, despite the fact that no one ever, in any area of the country, has shown any proof whatsoever, that race determines the quality and effectiveness of a police officer. Chicago is a town of racial spoils and the black and hispanic alderman have made it very clear that they run the town now and will push the racial spoils game. That is why Johnson was appointed and that is why Chicago will remain for some time to come a killing ground.
FOP has long tolerated attacks on its legal defense fund. Sad but true.
Just my opinion but if Residency was eliminated then not only would the CPD get qualified candidates from the suburbs, but also from all over the state, and other states too.
The Residency Rule is more obsolete than the Electoral College -- well, obsolete per sore-loser dimwits...oops I mean -- democrats, anyway. That fact of the matter is that the day of the Beat Cop living in his District's neighborhood is long over. There's little difference between someone living in Norwood Park and being assigned to the 4th District, and someone assigned to the 8th District who lives in Oak Lawn or Palos. A 'longish' car drive is a 'longish' car drive. Plus, due to the shortage of cops, you guys get moved around faster than Rahm & Toni can raise taxes so you can be driving anywhere on any given day; 'Oops, we need ten cops 'there' tomorrow.'
To me lifting the Residency Requirement is more logical than lowering standards: **It's alright, he's just a minor criminal. He never actually murdered someone.**
That 'logic' is even STOO-PID by 'Chicago Stupid' standards.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey Dean, where is my fucking fop book? FYI... Its nice to have it before furlo picks when I can have all of next years events marked down. Could you please tell the publisher to have them mailed out in early November next year? THANK YOU.
12/17/2016 06:05:00 AM
Heard after Christmas if Dean cannot do simple things correctly how can he do anything complicated? Is Marty Prieb running for FOP president? He has my vote as well as votes of many coppers! Run Marty run! Drain the swamp at FOP all new members!
Shouldn't the DOJ be stepping in here? Some of the people I've seen make it through you'd think that the DOJ would say, "you need higher hiring standards."
Anonymous said...
Dean is such a loser . Finally came out of his hole . You can start packing so you can leave the Fop building and take your useless people with you.
12/17/2016 06:21:00 AM
???????
So we can replace then with a new group of LOSERS???
You should go to a meeting and look at the PO's in the crowd. It's like a bar scene from Star wars. You got the Strom Troopers (SWAT), Darth Vader (Donahue), the human hedge hog (Graham), colonel sanders (Preib), A child actor (Kilmer).
After 12 years of a cess pool I would rather have the current crew minus a few (Capparelli, Kilmer, DiMaria, Gorman) stay on.
But that's just my opinion. Just never ever let a Citywide guy back in the building.
Jeez, some coppers are crooked as it is. Now if they start out as thieves...
And where is my FOP Book??
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey Dean, where is my fucking fop book? FYI... Its nice to have it before furlo picks when I can have all of next years events marked down. Could you please tell the publisher to have them mailed out in early November next year? THANK YOU.
12/17/2016 06:05:00 AM
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I called too. Kim Foxx's people could not figure out what days were being cut out as court days for the court keys. I thought FOP was blowing smoke so I talked to a ASA supervisor who told me their office is in complete disarray.
The FOP book will out soon but we're stuck with Foxx for four years. Shame the GOP could not come out with a viable candidate.
Is this true?
Anonymous said...
And once again another promotion class delayed due to politics. A class of detectives was to start on the first week of January. City hall wanted a certain number put in, the department needs a bigger number because Not enough merit selections that they want in the first class wouldn't get put in so the department requested a bigger class so they can get a bigger percentage of merit selections. City hall said not now because they need to spread the money out. The department says they need it now. A certain south side alder woman gets involved then when a certain south side boss beefs that city hall isn't playing nice with them and some of the south side constituents picks for merit in the first class. Rahm and O'Connor get wind of what's going on from this south side alderwoman and now there is a huge pissing match and a boss from the south side in hot water for going above people's heads getting alderman involved. Rahm throws up his hands and sends a big FU to the south side alder woman, the south side boss who doesn't know the chain of command and the department by delaying the first class from the first week of January until an undetermined time. They can't go too much longer without putting a class in so I'm guessing mid to end February so they are out by summer but gotta love the politics of merit picks. Glad they all got it from hard work and dedication.
Its almost as if they want the same atandards as alderman. I mean what are we lowering ourselves to aldermanic status.
Hey Dean, where is my fucking fop book? FYI... Its nice to have it before furlo picks when I can have all of next years events marked down. Could you please tell the publisher to have them mailed out in early November next year? THANK YOU.
12/17/2016 06:05:00 AM
Not defending fop buy I believe its the police dept that doesnt issue its official operational calendar until nov. Thus making the print process a bit behind
First off NOT ALL but a lot, I REPEAT NOT ALL BUT A LOT of mofo's on this JOB think that Black Officer's let alone the Black Community are in line with this bullshit of lowering standards. Well let me clear it up for you "maroons" (as quoted by Curly Howard), A LOT OF US (Black folk for those lost in comprehension) are not!! Least ye forget if they pull this dumb shit off a lot of White applicants will benefit also. See, discrimination comes into play if they do not and I'm sure all White people are familiar with discrimination. See how I just lumped all White folks into one barrel. Sarcasm. Figure that sentence out. I read some dip shits comment a few blogs ago in which he detailed the hierarchy of each race as it pertains to their ability to pass a test. You, stupid ass and people who think like you are "dumber than a bag of hammers (as quoted by Ulysses E. Mcgill). Look him up. Everybody is their own keeper and the ability to learn is not race based. Chew on this Brainiac. My parents due to their race and for you and your ilk hammer brains they are Black; they were denied a equal and decent education when they were growing up in the south based on their skin color. Hmmm, so I wonder how smart that makes me since myself and siblings went to school and graduated high school with myself earning a masters degree. Digest that sentence also Brains R Us. Anyway Im not gonnna ramble but a lot of white shirts like me have passed this test, twice even to Earn ours without study groups and answer's and like me we have NO CLOUT which equals NO MERIT and we look at all MERIT HACKS Black, White, Hispanic and Asian etc with the side eye until we can ascertain they know WTF they are doing. Few do. Very few trust me. We also don't share the same ideology or politic's as those advocating lowering the standards and the same goes for our neighbor's and relatives.
Angelo, is spot-on in his comments again. As media, public and politicians increasingly want our decisions to be flawless, the city administration wants to LOWER hiring standards? That baffles the mind (of a non-politician, that is). Angelo is often the only voice out there advocating for us in the Chicago media. His job is not an easy one dealing with a diverse membership with an array of demands, but he does a great job in my opinion. To his point, though: Can the Illinois Law Enforcement Training and Standards Board be of any aid here? Can the city simply lower the hiring standard without recourse?
Hey 0836 what the hell are you talking about the cadet program didn't exempt them from the draft get your facts straight or shut up. Your a f..king moron got my dd 214 to prove it. What proof do you have your empty whiskey glass
Heard that there may be a class of 52 Lts coming by February. God I hope so...seems like the only way we will ever get rid of some of these useless strokes in 024.
Get rid of the college requirement. There is no proof having a piece of paper makes you better qualified. Look at some of the current bosses. Some are barely out of mom and dads house. No true life experience. Give me a good hard working kid with a high school diploma and no background, and I'll show you a good hard working po. You have a lot of good kids who can't afford to go to college and choose to work to help make ends meet at home. You'd have way more applicants. Despite what everyone thinks there are still some people who don't use drugs.
You have people fail the polygraph because they HIGH for their birthday. These people can't even stay clean while going through the hiring process. Now I have to worry that I have one of these mutts watching my back. No thanks! I'll work third watch 99 first.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
When a police officer walks into a drug house with a search warrant and there’s mass amounts of currency there, that’s a situation where your moral and ethical compass has got to be pointed in the right direction. You have to ensure you’re not tempted by that. Same thing with drug use,” Angelo said.
Guess Jerome Finnegan and his crew left their compass at home?
If the standards are lowered, then the odds of having many more Jerome Finnegans increases substantially
I read Dean's statements in Saturday's Sun Times
While I must admit Dean's statements are mostly spot on they are also, in typical Dean fashion, woefully late in coming.
We don't need this type of "leadership" that can never seem to be proactive or get out in front of something...... Dean and his lackeys need to go.
In these very trying times to be a police officer we need the strongest representation possible by the FOP and Dean and his boys are clearly not up to the task.
12/17/2016 12:28:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Four dead and ten wounded from Noon to Midnight Friday?
Only in Chicago.
12/17/2016 12:39:00 AM
Two of those killed and two of those wounded happened in one fell swoop in 009.
In the middle of the afternoon!
The gangs in 009 have gotten completely out of control.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
As a Hispanic member of this department, I would like to see a better representation of Hispanic officers but I don't think lowering standards is the answer. Maybe better recruitment is the answer. I'm sure there are Hispanic and Black military members that are thinking about leaving active duty that would make outstanding officers. Though I would like to see a more equal balance of people of color, I would hope the department could find a better solution than dropping our stanards. It sets a poor precedent.
As a 20 plus Hispanic member plus of this department. I could CARE LESS what color male or female a officer is. Do not lower the standards for any means. I want to work with the best qualified, and military doesn't make you a better officer. The department has had it's share of wacko military personnel too.
Harry Callahan knew the truth more than 30 years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rcIJIWqYmo
Thats a burglary not shoplifting. I'm not thrilled with the SAO either but lets not misrepresent the facts.
"Now that Lil Kim relaxed the shoplifting laws, Moosejaw gets hit yet again on Clyborn.
Stolen car. Check
Smash through window. Check
Grab merchandise. check
Felony charges. Nope.
12/17/2016 09:22:00 AM"
I say !uck it. Lower the standards let this city implode on its self. These idiots that will come on the job will get theirs eventually. I'll be long gone by then and on my boat Cccccc-ya!!!!
substitute the educational requirement with military service to attract more recruits. Focus your recruiting efforts there.
I heard the FOP budget is at 3 million for its legal defense budget which the JVD case will take a good portion of, if not all of it. With the agenda driven COPA/Kim Foxx (who just hired a Loevey and Loevey associate has her head of policy) the membership should be very concerned. With all the major change going on in our department and law enforcement in general, the FOP needs to start taking a more vocal and aggressive stance. I hate to say it but they have to be feared like the CTU. The FOP needs reform as well. The membership is not satisfied with your representation at all. We need better leadership, defense attorneys, and the CTU labor attorneys for the next contract (possibly the most important contract negotiation in our history). If I was in a shooting right now, I would be real worried about the lack of advise from the FOP with the new investigative procedures with IPRA/COPA as the lead administrative/criminal investigators. Something that could be illegal since they have no police powers and the FOP never fought. Also, Jim Ade makes normal sergeant's pay, just sayin'. It is the membership's fault for not holding the FOP accountable, we can't even get people to vote, let alone go to a meeting.
What bothers me as a Black Police Officer is that rahm and a few alderman think you cannot find a qualified black person with a police record for drug use
solution to clearance rate
assign all Merit Detectives ,Supervisors to a citywide unit to investigate all gand shootings and murders
When are the FOP elections??
Jeez. What an insult to the blacks and Hispanics in the city. "We know you want the job but aren't smart enough or law-abiding enough to make it sooooo...." Unreal lol
Oh please, poor guy is probably on a 13B in Aruba.
FOP can only hope someone will listen and understand how lower standards means lower quality.
If the FOP had any influence in changing the Hiring requirements, we would be living outside the city, able to freely Bid into all Units every period, promoted based on rank score not merit, and working until 75 yrs old.
Instead, we can only hope for 4 Golf Outings and 5 Fishing Tournaments a year, a paid Political Action Committee and a 3 day weekend St. Paddy's Day Party & Parade with more floats.
how about body cams be a requirement for problem cops with c/r numbers that are legit...use of force etc.. this will b a corrective tool,and save money instead of requiring everyone to have one!IM BRILLIANT!
Dean. A day late and a dollar short. Emphasis on short. Haha, I kill myself.
12/17/2016 09:18:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Now that Lil Kim relaxed the shoplifting laws, Moosejaw gets hit yet again on Clyborn.
Stolen car. Check
Smash through window. Check
Grab merchandise. check
Felony charges. Nope.
12/17/2016 09:22:00 AM
You can bet if she's the victim of a theft or any of her friends charges will be approved
now when are the merit Sgt's packets due, damn can they ever get it right!
Dean who?
Tto the officer who wanted to recruit from the military. We approached the department many years ago. Had connection to make it work.
They would not return our calls
And once again another promotion class delayed due to politics. A class of detectives was to start on the first week of January. City hall wanted a certain number put in, the department needs a bigger number because Not enough merit selections that they want in the first class wouldn't get put in so the department requested a bigger class so they can get a bigger percentage of merit selections. City hall said not now because they need to spread the money out. The department says they need it now. A certain south side alder woman gets involved then when a certain south side boss beefs that city hall isn't playing nice with them and some of the south side constituents picks for merit in the first class. Rahm and O'Connor get wind of what's going on from this south side alderwoman and now there is a huge pissing match and a boss from the south side in hot water for going above people's heads getting alderman involved. Rahm throws up his hands and sends a big FU to the south side alder woman, the south side boss who doesn't know the chain of command and the department by delaying the first class from the first week of January until an undetermined time. They can't go too much longer without putting a class in so I'm guessing mid to end February so they are out by summer but gotta love the politics of merit picks. Glad they all got it from hard work and dedication.
&&&&&. Now if this is true it's pure comedy. Disgusting also. I can only guess who the boss and alderman are...
5 shot and 4 kilt in 005 about an hour ago!
There is a path to 800 for Chalkie!
Applicants who experiment with marijuana in high school shouldn't be dq if they admitted it because that shows honesty!
How many cops are on the force that lied and said they never smoked and etc and are on the force?
I know a cop who sold Marijuana in high school daddy is a cop and he never admitted that and he's on the force, he did admitted to smoking tho.
As a Hispanic member of this department, I would like to see a better representation of Hispanic officers but I don't think lowering standards is the answer. Maybe better recruitment is the answer. I'm sure there are Hispanic and Black military members that are thinking about leaving active duty that would make outstanding officers. Though I would like to see a more equal balance of people of color, I would hope the department could find a better solution than dropping our stanards. It sets a poor precedent.
12/17/2016 01:45:00 AM
Hey my brown centurion brother, I'm guessing a lot of college educated minority persons would rather get jobs with the potential of higher salaries and potential for advancement without having to sell their souls to currupt pols. If rahm wants quality he needs to pay for it. Real pay increases that surpass all of his tax increases and provides us (fire side too) with a very good living for the risks we undertake. Lifting residencey, and eliminate merit or quantify what merit is.
Until then remain fetal.
6 shot on 103rd wentworth....merry xmas!
Anonymous said...
I heard the superintendent and his command staff were in NewYork for the last several days asking for help with the violence.
12/17/2016 05:51:00 AM
Yep. In NYC.
Dean will be all over this. Just give him a chance. Go get them Dean! Dean? Dean? Dean? Ray? Tommy?
Anonymous said...
As a Hispanic member of this department, I would like to see a better representation of Hispanic officers but I don't think lowering standards is the answer. Maybe better recruitment is the answer. I'm sure there are Hispanic and Black military members that are thinking about leaving active duty that would make outstanding officers. Though I would like to see a more equal balance of people of color, I would hope the department could find a better solution than dropping our stanards. It sets a poor precedent.
12/17/2016 01:45:00 AM
Replace "Hispanic" with "White" and you would be called a racist.
There was a cop on A/2 gang team a decade back whose father had done hard time for manufacture and delivery to a MEG agent and his brother did a stretch for murder, he was sent back to the district and I can tell you I heard his 6 year old son tell his pee wee baseball team mates, my uncle got busted for wee,my son was on the dug out bench nearby. IAD called out tact office in the 90's asking 2 officers if they had any information or objection to the hiring of subject they arrested who proclaimed himself a latin king.
Look back a few years at the Federal sweep of the latin kings in 004 and the cops who were sticking up dope dealers and turning the loot over to their street counter parts.
They have been looking the other way on backgrounds for sometime.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey Dean, where is my fucking fop book? FYI... Its nice to have it before furlo picks when I can have all of next years events marked down. Could you please tell the publisher to have them mailed out in early November next year? THANK YOU.
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Jesus fucking Christ. Every year this jackass chimes in about the fucking FOP book. Hey, why don't you move out of the house your parents bought and join the 21st century. Sell your brick phone. All smart phones have the FOP calendar.
This department is going to shit and every year you're worried about the fucking FOP book.
they did this before. Remember PAC Man and crew?
Anonymous said...
I heard the FOP budget is at 3 million for its legal defense budget which the JVD case will take a good portion of, if not all of it. With the agenda driven COPA/Kim Foxx (who just hired a Loevey and Loevey associate has her head of policy) the membership should be very concerned. With all the major change going on in our department and law enforcement in general, the FOP needs to start taking a more vocal and aggressive stance. I hate to say it but they have to be feared like the CTU. The FOP needs reform as well. The membership is not satisfied with your representation at all. We need better leadership, defense attorneys, and the CTU labor attorneys for the next contract (possibly the most important contract negotiation in our history). If I was in a shooting right now, I would be real worried about the lack of advise from the FOP with the new investigative procedures with IPRA/COPA as the lead administrative/criminal investigators. Something that could be illegal since they have no police powers and the FOP never fought. Also, Jim Ade makes normal sergeant's pay, just sayin'. It is the membership's fault for not holding the FOP accountable, we can't even get people to vote, let alone go to a meeting.
12/17/2016 11:49:00 AM
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1. By state law FOP can not go on strike.
2. By state law FOP can not call for a job action.
3. By state law FOP contract impasses go to an arbitrator.
4. FOP legal defense will have to go up a buck a pay period. Mostly because witness officers now need a lawyer so they do not come out of the interview as an accused.
Good post but your facts are odd a bit.
How about guaranteeing our Health Insurance, after we retire!
A promise broken by this crooked city!
Da Pelon
Blogger Cuthbert J. Twillie said...
Just my opinion but if Residency was eliminated then not only would the CPD get qualified candidates from the suburbs, but also from all over the state, and other states too.
The Residency Rule is more obsolete than the Electoral College -- well, obsolete per sore-loser dimwits...oops I mean -- democrats, anyway. That fact of the matter is that the day of the Beat Cop living in his District's neighborhood is long over. There's little difference between someone living in Norwood Park and being assigned to the 4th District, and someone assigned to the 8th District who lives in Oak Lawn or Palos. A 'longish' car drive is a 'longish' car drive. Plus, due to the shortage of cops, you guys get moved around faster than Rahm & Toni can raise taxes so you can be driving anywhere on any given day; 'Oops, we need ten cops 'there' tomorrow.'
To me lifting the Residency Requirement is more logical than lowering standards: **It's alright, he's just a minor criminal. He never actually murdered someone.**
That 'logic' is even STOO-PID by 'Chicago Stupid' standards.
12/17/2016 09:50:00 AM
Absolutely correct. The residency requirement is antiquated and is killing the police department slowly. Times have changed drastically for law enforcement making it not very desirable as it once was. Chicago is one of the only cities that require residency making it very unattractive to apply. Add in the high crime and it's the perfect storm to keep out a large number of qualified applicants that don't want to live in Chicago. You can bet outside police agencies are grateful Chicago still forces residency.
Well Dean you did it again sold out the rank and file. I am a retiree who's on Medicare now but wife a few years younger. I went to FLOP's held meeting in 1 Nov at Lone Tree to hear about FLOP's new choice after and extensive search and found and recommended Aetna for Medicare retiree's. Once you sign up you can have your spouse covered but not with Aetna. They have a special number for Chicago Police and Fireman for their coverage. I called that number was given a agent who I thought was Blue Cross/Blue Shield worker since they identify the policy as BC/BS.
When I signed up (or had my wife do it) they transferred me to another "agent" who finalized the policy. Well guess what and were this policy is from? BC/BS but in the market place (Obama Care site)which they require a payment first. You can use a Debit Card or have your payments taken from your account and pay by check monthly.
This was the option my wife took. When we received the E-Mails after calling BC/BS of Ill who told us that we weren't register with them. Found out that it was BC/BS but from the marketplace. Needless to say we cancelled this policy and my wife found another one just as good but a lot cheaper. Also I found out that the plans that city were offering for retiree's at 339 per month for part D coverage, I looked up plans from Medicare own website which gave you multiple plans which BC/BS was one but get this same plan city offering was for 313 per month 26 dollar cheaper. Guess were the 26 dollar goes to for doing nothing but sitting you up. The city and Rahm. FYI.
Not defending fop buy I believe its the police dept that doesnt issue its official operational calendar until nov. Thus making the print process a bit behind
12/17/2016 10:23:00 AM
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The 2017 operations calendar has been out for awhile now, as well as the 2017 court citing schedule cards.
Get rid of the college requirement and there will be no shortage of applicants. We lose so many potential good Officers.
Anonymous said...
When a police officer walks into a drug house with a search warrant and there’s mass amounts of currency there, that’s a situation where your moral and ethical compass has got to be pointed in the right direction. You have to ensure you’re not tempted by that. Same thing with drug use,” Angelo said.
Guess Jerome Finnegan and his crew left their compass at home?
12/17/2016 01:15:00 AM
Watts crew was way worse no jail time for any of them.
solution to clearance rate
assign all Merit Detectives ,Supervisors to a citywide unit to investigate all gand shootings and murders
To be led by cheating merit Lt's?
Lift residency are you insane?? Say goodbye to any decent neighborhood in Chicago. The day residency is lifted property values in Mt.Greenwood/Beverly, Garfield Ridge and Edison Park would drop in half instantly.
OT
The Awards Nominations Committee just posted :
MooseJaw - Named Idiot Retailer of the Year for 2016 (second year in a row,well done. How about just leaving the front door open)
Special Ed - Idiot Superintendent of the Year 2016, Most Murders on any Police Supts Watch in the USA.
District Commanders (Exemplary Merit Hack Idiots) - Career Service Achievement Award in a Supporting Role.
There's just so many people to thank....
Anonymous said...
What bothers me as a Black Police Officer is that rahm and a few alderman think you cannot find a qualified black person with a police record for drug use >>>
12/17/2016 12:02:00 PM
(continued by another writer) >>>...that really wants this job. That is willing to put up with up the bullshit and get and education that is geared toward law enforcement. That comes from a police family where before they were proud to carry on the traditions but now say do something else somewhere else.
God Bless anyone who takes on this job no matter what the color.
Stay Safe and Healthy
Wow, you tell em Dean. Dean the dog speaks.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Lift residency are you insane?? Say goodbye to any decent neighborhood in Chicago. The day residency is lifted property values in Mt.Greenwood/Beverly, Garfield Ridge and Edison Park would drop in half instantly.
Well then, the property values would go back to where they should be. The market is overinflated and the bubble will burst again anyway. The morons paying $700K for single family homes in Edison Park deserve it. Some balloon head has a home listed for $1.2 million. I will gladly take the equalization for a chance to move out. But then again I paid less than half of what these idiots did and will not be upside down twice over. Do away with residency, the rest will work itself out.
Go back to sleep Deano..... you're time is coming to an end.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey Dean, where is my fucking fop book? FYI... Its nice to have it before furlo picks when I can have all of next years events marked down. Could you please tell the publisher to have them mailed out in early November next year? THANK YOU.
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Jesus fucking Christ. Every year this jackass chimes in about the fucking FOP book. Hey, why don't you move out of the house your parents bought and join the 21st century. Sell your brick phone. All smart phones have the FOP calendar.
This department is going to shit and every year you're worried about the fucking FOP book.
12/17/2016 05:23:00 PM
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I'm not the original poster, but I agree (Every year too). A working beat copper needs the book. Dr. Dean Sr. Phd doesn't, but WE do. And FYI FOP told us not to have a personal phone in the squad car other than a burner phone. So your point is ever the more a lost debating position.
America
The beginning of a government approved armed resistance to the law.
to increase the number of applicants--- keep exam free, raise applicant age to 21, decrease college requirement to 30 hours, get rid of entrance exam.
to hire only qualified--- keep pass pre-power test requirement before background begins, keep polygraph portion, hair/urine drug screen at start of background and then urine test one week into academy, mirror best hiring practices of other cities in terms of data collection and report compilation, stop using outside vendor to do home interviews and reference checks, retain medical exam and psychological tests/interview but not necessarily the ones in place.
stop pretending like the low # applicants, speed of process, quality of hires is the fault of anyone except City Hall and Superintendent---treat hiring as an important step in building a better force and not an after thought to make Mayors sound legit (we have enough members and have decreased the budget for police, we don't have money to hire, we need more police, we are keeping steady with attrition, we are increasing the budgeted strength and hiring hundreds more...)
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT
The Awards Nominations Committee just posted :
MooseJaw - Named Idiot Retailer of the Year for 2016 (second year in a row,well done. How about just leaving the front door open)
Special Ed - Idiot Superintendent of the Year 2016, Most Murders on any Police Supts Watch in the USA.
District Commanders (Exemplary Merit Hack Idiots) - Career Service Achievement Award in a Supporting Role.
There's just so many people to thank....
12/17/2016 08:26:00 PM
Don't forget the honorable mentions for the exempt waste of salary club, and a special award to "granny am I here" who is a pathetic old woman washed up drawing a huge salary, what information does this creep have and who is she black mailing? no other reason to keep this waste of space here!
"Dean Checks In"
=
Jerry Mouse peers out of his
hidey-hole in the baseboard?
Tom (Rahm) feigns disinterest
but monitors all coming and
goings out of said hidey-hole.
As long as li'l Nibbles gets his
merit promotion, there's really no need
for Jerry to venture far or say anything.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
What bothers me as a Black Police Officer is that rahm and a few alderman think you cannot find a qualified black person with a police record for drug use >>>
12/17/2016 12:02:00 PM
(continued by another writer) >>>...that really wants this job. That is willing to put up with up the bullshit and get and education that is geared toward law enforcement. That comes from a police family where before they were proud to carry on the traditions but now say do something else somewhere else.
God Bless anyone who takes on this job no matter what the color.
Stay Safe and Healthy
12/18/2016 04:14:00 AM
Amen!
2nd generation Black Cop and 3rd in the
family to serve...
An American Story, right?
Family came to Chicago with all they could
pack in a beat-up old DeSoto...
Grand-Dad "forgot his place" and punched back,
so rather than wait for the midnight linen
salesmen to come and burn the house up with
everybody in it, he loaded his bunch,
pointed that car north on U.S. 41.
All because Grand-Dad was adamant about
his children going to school instead of
working the cotton and rice fields.
He was one of those "funny thinking" guys
who didn't play well with others.
God Bless Him.
Rahm and the alderfools can go jump...
The job of Policeman should never be used as a means
of pandering and scoring social justice brownie points.
It's detrimental to society as a whole.
Thank God I'm retired and don't live in Chicago.
Chicago used to be a Beautiful City, until the Democrats screwed it up with greed.
I as a police officer don't want to work with drug users and former gang members.
Now Retired, and Glad of it...
I haven't read all the comments on this matter. Think abut this, can you imagine that the goofy 15 years old kid who a few years ago conned his way onto riding as a P.O. would now be of age to con his way onto the job now, for real this time.
We use to say on the Westside, TODAY'S VICTIM IS TOMORROW'S OFFENDER, AND VICE VERSA. Now we will be saying, TODAY'S OFFENDER IS TOMORROW'S P.O..
Calling cases a "mental" shows how ignorant your cops are. Not all "mental" are the same so why are they being classified as the same? The standards are relaxed enough, if your cops think anybody with a "mental condition" should be lumped in the same category and treated the same.
Lift residency are you insane?? Say goodbye to any decent neighborhood in Chicago. The day residency is lifted property values in Mt.Greenwood/Beverly, Garfield Ridge and Edison Park would drop in half instant.
softball. buy a over price house to live by other city workers. over taxed and terrible schools.
I hate to break it to you, but property taxes aren't necessarily cheaper in the suburbs.
Calling cases a "mental" shows how ignorant your cops are. Not all "mental" are the same so why are they being classified as the same? The standards are relaxed enough, if your cops think anybody with a "mental condition" should be lumped in the same category and treated the same.
12/18/2016 07:14:00 PM
this post sounds like a 19P Zebra! lol.
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