Huh?
Granted, we could use the help, but as a support unit, not as a partner:
- Chicago police are teaming up with the Cook County Sheriff’s Department to combat violence in the city.
ABC7 reported that Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson and Cook County Sheriff Tom Dart said the partnership will place Cook County deputies in the patrol cars with officers in violent neighborhoods.
"We are going to put a Cook County sheriff's officer in a squad car with a Chicago police officer so that both entities can come together and help us tackle this crime because there are some things Cook County brings to the table that we just don't have, and vice versa," Johnson told the news station. "Like domestic issues they can arrest people for that we generally don't."
We don't arrest for domestics? That's news to us.
You know what we think? And someone posted it in a comment section yesterday - Chicago doesn't have enough squad cars and neither dies Dart, so we're combining underfunded agencies.
You know what we think? And someone posted it in a comment section yesterday - Chicago doesn't have enough squad cars and neither dies Dart, so we're combining underfunded agencies.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
110 Comments:
Cpd doesn't arrest domestics huh!
What happened to all the squad cars that were negotiated for in the last contract?
And just what the fuck is it that county can arrest for domestics that cpd can't??? Glad to see the media is asking the tough questions here....smh
You show me where in my contract it says I am mandated to ride with an outside agency. No f'n way is that Sheriff getting in the car with any of my officers or myself.
The way I heard it, all the county guys are CIT trained, so they will be riding with us on mental and domestic calls.
There are too many levels of law enforcement in cook county . It's a jobs program , I get it but WTF ?
Cook County doesn't have an agreement with the ACLU about free reign on ISRs. This is how street stops go up again
Riding around with some county beatoffs? Awesome!
Would you trust the people that work for Dart?
They say this like every couple months ... wasn't the last time just over the summer ?
Another example of "Fake News" I guess
More like an order from Rahm and Dart
"...we're combining underfunded agencies."
The genesis of a new, single law enforcement agency?
The day it happens to me, count on me to get sick.
We are not the same.
Well guess what they can go right ahead and arrest them. I'll be sitting in the car.
Exactly what are they bringing to the table that we don't have? From I can see they're just another body in the car. A body that doesn't have the street experience of working the west and south sides of Chicago. A body that is inadequately trained thanks to a hug a thug sheriff who's too scared to train his officers properly because of the liability. He'd rather spend the money on yoga and hormone therapy for cross gender inmates to show the voters how modern he is. Not that we're that much better but I don't see how sending us juice babies ( which comprises most of the CCSPD personel) is going to make things better. Now maybe if he sent some of his gang intelligence guys from the jail to work with us that would be a hell of a lot better.
The only thing this ridiculous arrangement will serve will be free press for the sheriff who has his eye on the mayor's office. God help us then. He should have molded his department to run like a real sheriffs dept sorta like when LAPD works with LA County. But here in Crook that will never happen. That ship sailed a long time ago. More smoke and mirrors bullshit. Ed should be ashamed of himself for entertaining the notion. What an embarrassment to the dept.
Hey maybe they can send us the two brave county officers who stood idley by as the female PO from 015 got her head bashed in.
So, if they start putting them (CCSP) on patrol with CPD in Englewood, what happens to the assignments and responsibilities that they previously held for the County?
Is the CPD going to pay for the deputies salaries while they are working in the city? Is this ANOTHER way for Mayor Murder to avoid hiring cops for CPD, like working OT on your day off?
Damn, more police to do nothing... Why arrest when a stupid ass states attorney can not get a conviction
They feel that since cpd is fetal, sheriffs will want to play police and produce some activity...just my opinion
Is our use of force the same? I kind of remember an incident where a CPD officer was getting her head pounded into the pavement and they didn't engage.
This is to prepare for the impending merger. It has been done in several urban areas already in the 1990s and 2000. Examples include Louisville, Kentucky; St. Louis, Missouri; and most recently Indianapolis, Indiana. The biggest problem with this is the merging of "distinct cultures" which comes down to which style uniforms to wear, and what color to paint the cars, etc. Next, is how to merge the leadership and seniority issues.
Combining agencies is usually touted by politicians as a win "for looking out for the taxpayers fiscally" But the real reason the politicians do it is because, they know it fucks with the morale of the troops and they HATE us more than the citizens do!
Stay Fetal!
What is a juice baby?
I'm not saying this to disparage everybody who works for the County. We all know there are some great ones there that we would have no issues working side by side with. However, and this is going back some time so I'm not even sure they still do it, but I remember the Special Olympics Torch Run while I was in the academy. A great cause undeniable. However , participation by members of both respective academies was mandatory. I'm no Adonis by any stretch of the imagination, nor were some of the CPD recruits but....WOW! We ran in platoons with our respective departments and while it appeared that our guys (CPD) held their own the same cannot be said of the County. I saw them falling out after a block and some of the drama was worthy of an Oscar. I remember asking a fellow CPD recruit who in their right mind would give that person a gun? He said "..."If you want standards you came to the wrong place brother, this is Cook County. You got a Chinaman you got a job". My apologies to all men from
China if I offended your sensibilities.
I can see potential lawsuits....
Special Ed could be the dumbest sworn member of this department. To say he is soft as baby shit would be the understatement of the century . Oh yeah and Tom Dart is a pussy.
Sort of off topic, but anybody know what eight or nine CPD vehicles, along with three state police cars, were doing out in Darien, Dupage county, on Saturday morning? Funeral escort?
How is this going to happen. For pension and IROC purposes CCSD is not considered law enforcement per the sheriff who will not allow them to carry upon retirement??? Let's get it together kids!!!!
A County guy? But they don't arrest folks, they just hold them for CPD to hand off.
Anonymous said...
They feel that since cpd is fetal, sheriffs will want to play police and produce some activity...just my opinion
12/12/2016 02:57:00 AM
Yes, I have a sinking feeling that you are correct in this. I hope that this does not include the deputies that work the courts or jails. Most of them, nice people that many are, are ill suited to work the streets. As a matter of fact, most are ill suited to work the court rooms. Talk about rude people.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Is our use of force the same? I kind of remember an incident where a CPD officer was getting her head pounded into the pavement and they didn't engage.
12/12/2016 04:27:00 AM
That was a Cook County deputyies, not the Cook County Sheriffs Police. Sheriffs Police work on the south and west side on a regular basis, they have been on many jobs with us, and are good Police. I just don't understand how 2 different agencies will work. Who handles the job, who takes the paper, who's SOP are we following, which boss is calling the shots? Sounds like smoke and mirrors, just hire some POs already.
Who gets the CR Number?
It's just a money saving attempt by the city. All CCSPD have body cams. Pair them up with those who dont have body cams to have visibility.
Domestics are leading to all the gang and drug murders in this city. huh?
More nonsense and BS from the Murder Mayor. Total political theatre.
Don't be so negative. Actually it is a very good idea. Both are sworn trained peace officers. Why not combine scarce resources?
It's my understanding that you need(ed) to be connected to get a CCSO position. And that their hiring standards are less then ours.
No doubt that there are good people in that office. But I do not want them next to me in that capacity. Let them sit in on roll call, and work with one of their own.
It's like reuniting two long lost stepchildren...
But the violence in Chicago is not out of control.
Let the sheriffs write isr(s) for the city they'll do it just to keep their hack jobs...
First off domestics are the only arrests some officers do. They were like 99% of my arrests this year. Second, those County guys are not the police. Im not an Eddie basher but this makes no sence.
Is this a violation of our contract? F.O.P?
Outstanding! If you have a CCSP guy with you have them fill out their ISRs for all the stops you'll make.
STAY FETAL
Of course, I'll be happy to Uber the Sheriff's around the ghetto so they can play police - go get those bad guys and I'll be right here waiting to drive you back to the station for your interview with IPRA, Kim Foxx and her ilk and then you can try to get home before BLM and Father Faker are stomping all over your front lawn.
STAY FETAL
You want leaders, go study George Patton, Chesty Puller, and Dan Daly. Those guys led by example and motivated their troops to do courageous things in battle. Real leaders whose men would have flowed then to Hell.
Retired after 31 yrs
Just when I think it can't get any more bizzare these geniuses amaze me
Don't let this happen guys and girls
County riding with Cpd? What's next, bowel movements matter riding shotgun?
And the f l o p remains silent as usual
Angelo was a snake oil salesman when he was in gangs north. Always looking for some paper to jump on so he didn't have to do any of his own work
No surprise he wants to collect a check for nothing present day
Fucking asshole
Stay fetal or fry!
Are these the brown suits or their blue suits. The County is working with the bare minimum and taking any of the brown suits out of the unincorporated areas would cause more problems. The criminals that we deal with are now in the burbs. Good luck you stupid liberal political hacks.
I thought unincorporated Cook County residents paid county taxes to have deputies deal with their areas, and not Chicago.
Might as well recruit Lemont cops too.
Why not?
Chicago hoodrats are more important than the citizens of Lemont.
He can ride with me & my partner as long as he doesn't mind been in the cage.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They feel that since cpd is fetal, sheriffs will want to play police and produce some activity...just my opinion
12/12/2016 02:57:00 AM
I'm guessing the vast majority of county guys want nothing to do with this latest brainstorm, nor do they like dart.
Im a County Guy. We are in the same boat. We have adapted to the Fetal Position. Tom Dart has stated that he is happy that Kim Foxx is now the new States Attorney and will not question him when he wants to Criminally Charge officers with bull shit cases. We are not doing anything and will continue not doing anything. Stay Fetal let the leaders of these two Department spin the Media.
That's just great. So Unincorporated areas that CCSPD is responsible for just get the shaft because Dart wants to look good for the cameras? That's why unincorporated stickers are $80 and the taxes are stupid, so MORE resources can go toward dog shit districts that clearly don't want the police there? SMH
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The way I heard it, all the county guys are CIT trained, so they will be riding with us on mental and domestic calls.
12/12/2016 12:47:00 AM
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Let us know if you need us to call back up for you. We'll be outside having a smoke.
headline:Breaking News
Shootings down by half during snowy weekend in Chicago
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-weekend-shootings-violence-20161212-story.html
Thankfully the geniuses at the tribune figured this out, bet 35th street but we are up over 40% in shootings sit down now gold star failures:
The number of people shot is also the most in decades: At least 4,170 people so far this year. With less than three weeks left in the year, that marks a 40 percent increase over the total number of shootings in 2015, according to Tribune data.
Three of the shootings over the weekend were fatal.
Lastly hard to watch this 94 year old ww2 veteran woman who was beaten by a savage animal look at her prayers sent to her:
http://abc7chicago.com/news/94-year-old-wwii-veteran-recovering-after-attack-outside-her-chicago-home/1650471/
Did rahm call her? visit her? Most likely not she is a veteran not a thug! God bless this lady and police everywhere in this city with the corrupt lying political establishment and the dishonest media we have to watch out for the 9161 (patrolmen for the dishonest media) blue shirts!
So, will the sheriffs be allowed to enforce the municipal code? I wouldn't think so.
Arrest, I-Bond, Release.
Repeat 50 times.
At this point...What Differerence Does It Make Again™.
If the County gets involved then they and CPD will need another layer (and budget item) of government and even more top brass to lead the CPD-CCS Initiative. What possibly could go wrong?
Just another example of bloated govmint and patronage.
Still no jail time.
Sputtering Stool Pigeon Spudhead Special Ed...days is numbered, yessir.
Ignore the ghetto and Stay Fetal.
Another brilliant idea for the brain trust at city hall. Every time they open their mouth their complete and total lack of any knowledge of what police work is shows.
Ed's ignorance comes shining through.
we don't arrest on domestics! Do you actually put on paper what your going to say or do you just "stupidly" spout off? OK give me 2 officers that way i can keep the car warm and "don't put me on that paper" why is ed allowing this bullshit? we could use them no doubt what happened to all the take home cars they have? They could patrol and assist us the more cars the more presence! What idiot came up with this goofy idea? Now when I drive and they arrest do we just take them directly into what is left from Tommy's demolition of the jail? Are the sheriffs are "recruits?" Do we get "FTO" pay for the day? hello dean what say you?
I believe that our order requires cpd supervision when operating with out side aganecies, or is that just federal agancies???
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You show me where in my contract it says I am mandated to ride with an outside agency. No f'n way is that Sheriff getting in the car with any of my officers or myself.
"...that Sheriff".
What Sheriff??
What makes you think those County Guys want to ride with, along or anywhere around any CPD?
They have their own issues they deal with and sending more County Guys into the City leaves beats short out in their areas.
The more help the better, you ignorant jag off!
Civilian with a question here. At my company, we cannot have outside contractors doing the work of the bargaining unit without paying members [by seniority] of the bargaining unit overtime, negating any cost savings. Forces senior management into bargaining unit hiring mode. Doesn't your contract say that too? Can a non sworn CPD employee do undercover buys, write parkers, do traffic stops and direct traffic? ...well, you did have that kid ride a tour with clueless a while back.
Best idea ever! Just a few issues since our policies and procedures are probably different. who is lead agency? Who drives and who writes? How about the BIG one, Use of Force? The list is endless. What could possibly go wrong? Whoever thought up this will most likely get promoted.
Does the CCSP have to submit ISRs?
What could possibly go wrong? What could possibly go right?
I remember when Raleigh and Mayberry teamed up, it was pretty fucked up until
Barney got it 2gether!
Who takes charge during an incident? Who supervises sheriff or Cpd? Are CPD coppers putting in fto slips? Who pays for fuel for vehicles? If county guy gets hurt who pays medical bills? Can county guy if hurt sue city for lack of protection by not hiring Cpd coppers? Who buys lunch?
As for me give me 2-3 county guys I will keep the car warm and let the "real police" perform! Not knocking them but I'm in self persevering mode thank you!
Just wait until Trumps DOJ pulls all law enforcement funding to sanctuary cities. A squad car with 200K miles will be a luxury. Bicycles will be the new response vehicle and the criminal will flourish in this cesspool.
Window Dressing.
Something to tell the media for a couple of news cycles.
Johnson and media whore Dart can put this on their list of attempts to get a handle on crime. Even if it doesn't work they can say it was one more thing they tried.
They always announce these type of things when they start, but don't mention them when they stop.
I wonder why?
CCPD are juice babies, hot headed yet always ask for back up or a paper car. It never fails...assist a p/o, assist arrest needed, ultimately we process they play street security. Remember when those two sheriff's could not even put a hand on that mental who was smashing a p/os head in 015? I would park up 8hrs before i work with a deputy. This is real policing not evictions, hosptial detail or prisoner transport. If Rahm wants to dissolve CPD, tell me now and I'm gone. Dart is a extreme liberal who buys pizza for inmates and not c/o's, a Democratic pupet from prewinckle and foxx. Btw, the sherrif always help out in winter and leave by 12am...very helpful.
Sounds to me like it's more of a babysitting thing? Perhaps how CCSP intervene Patrolling with a Watchful Eye over Summit PD! Rumor there was that Summit was under some investigation just rumors. Anyone??
Chicago Metropolitan Police, here we come. CMPD. You heard it here first.
What will Dean Angelo say about this?.......are those crickets chirping? The same thing he says about every other issue facing us. Nothing. I've been denied Easter Sunday and now Christmas Day off for 2016. I've never been denied either DOH in almost 20 years on the job. This was the first time ever. Why do you think that is? Fuck you, Angelo. Fuck you, Fat Ass Eddie. And fuck you, Rahm you little bitch.
My beat car = No stops!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sort of off topic, but anybody know what eight or nine CPD vehicles, along with three state police cars, were doing out in Darien, Dupage county, on Saturday morning? Funeral escort?
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It is perhaps even more important that we remind our families that we will “Never Forget” their sacrifice, especially during the holidays. It is truly an uplifting experience.
Does your Union contract allow this? Sounds like a roundabout to reduce CPD or CC sheriffs. I smell a Rat! Maybe 50 alderrats and their leader RATmanuel
The Sheriff's Police spend a majority of their time patrolling unincorporated ares of the county. If they're in the city, it's usually because they're passing through.
While they're in the city, who will be patrolling Maine Township?
Talk about scarce resources. I literally haven't seen a Sheriff's Police car on patrol in over a year up here.
Don't be so negative. Actually it is a very good idea. Both are sworn trained peace officers. Why not combine scarce resources?
12/12/2016 07:30:00 AM
Yep. This:
But the violence in Chicago is not out of control.
12/12/2016 07:46:00 AM
This crazy scheme by Dart will Require SPD Lt. & Sgt personnel to be available to Their officers for decisions on scene and in person.
The primary responsibility of SPD is to serve the residents and business in unincorporated Cook. Response times are already long, and who is to protect and serve those thousands of taxpayers in the unincorporated areas?
Hahaha.... Maybe instead of climbing in a car with a CPD officer the county guys should be more concerned with looking for their almost 500 electronic monitoring inmates that have gone AWOL since their big tough on crime Sheriff has release them to the streets in his hug-a-thug attempt to empty the jail. I'm guessing that might have a better effect on crime.
Just saying
Combine to combat violence is a good idea.
Do you really think the sheriffs want to be here? Come on they are being pimped just like we are,being used by the clown heads dart and rahm trying to show the dishonest media and the pathetic liberals that everything is under control! We have seen this political bullshit many times but now this at a different degree how can these clowns really think people are fooled? Where are all the new cars rahm? tommy? the state police (hello Leo) just got hundreds of new vehicles delivered, what is being done with the police budget money? Hopefully Trump will send in the Calvary to remedy this dire financial situation of massive theft and extortion perpetuated by the lying cheating elected in this city-county-state!
Anonymous said...
Riding around with some county beatoffs? Awesome!
12/12/2016 01:00:00 AM
And your God's gift to policing,CCSPD guys work.We are not DEPUTIES,we are the police just like you.
Dart wouldn't sacrifice his deputies to spy would he? Tiny dancer holds the strings on him
Don't put a total stranger with me from a totally different department you dumb assholes! You are putting us in physical and financial harms way. You want zeros everyday? Stupid
This is an attempt to up the isr numbers to show the media "work" is being done. My tact team on the south side is always being pressured by the brass holes to ride along with the county EM guys when they're working our district. They gain entry to check on or arrest a mutt and were told to isr everyone in the house, as their backup. Those guys are all pretty good to work with and know it's a shit show just like we do, and we more times than not just hang out and shoot the shit to pass the time
I'm not working with Cook County. For cryin out loud, I don't even want to work with other CPD po's.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What happened to all the squad cars that were negotiated for in the last contract?
12/12/2016 12:13:00 AM
It boggles the mind why on earth the FOP would ever agree to put that in the contract. Screw the city, if they don't supply us with enough vehicles, I'll walk my beat, or sit in the station and wait for a call, then take the CTA there.
And on top of it, the city gives our money away to illegal aliens and criminals. Rahm really is sticking it in our ears. Yep, keep voting democratic while the democrats cut our throats at the same time. Lamp posts are too good for them.
Back in the early 90's it was $5,000 in an envelope to the right person to get on with Cook County. In the jail.... After you served your time there, it was $10,000 to get into a squad car. Wonder what the going rate is these days?
Johnson and Dart putting their heads together will equal 2 empty heads.♠️
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Riding around with some county beatoffs? Awesome!
12/12/2016 01:00:00 AM
And your God's gift to policing,CCSPD guys work.We are not DEPUTIES,we are the police just like you.
12/12/2016 07:51:00 PM
Ignore these assholes. Police are Police.
Anonymous said...
Just wait until Trumps DOJ pulls all law enforcement funding to sanctuary cities. A squad car with 200K miles will be a luxury. Bicycles will be the new response vehicle and the criminal will flourish in this cesspool.
12/12/2016 01:44:00 PM
Bicycles can actually move better than a car in a lot of situations...
You too out of shape for this possibility?
I guess when your backed against a wall, like Johnson and dart are, you HAVE to say something.
Turf battles are silly and juvenile. We're all in this together. That doesn't mean there shouldn't be any concerns about whether officers unfamiliar with a community are more of a hindrance than help at times and this is something that needs to be sorted out. It's also kind of weird that the county doesn't have enough troops for the unincorporated areas so how can they hope to do much in the city?
That said, from 40+ years in law enforcement, my experience has been that cops in the boonies tend to be like Forrest Gump's box of chocolates: you never know what you're going to get. Go "up north" in cheeseland and half are local yokels and the other half extremely bright, intelligent, competent people who wouldn't last ten minutes in a bureaucracy and that's why they are there. Instead of government by committee or political correctness they pretty much get to do what they want and while they don't have the volume of calls they get to spend more time on a case. It's always been kind of cool to go up there or out west and meet coppers who are either the other brother Darryl or else built their own ninhydrin chambers for lifting fingerprints from documents. And it's amazing the equipment some of these places have. So I don't tend to automatically look down at others -- they have to earn it!!!
Does the CCSP have to submit ISRs?
12/12/2016 01:19:00 PM
Yeah it should be no more than our old contact card with only check boxes
The way I heard it, all the county guys are CIT trained, so they will be riding with us on mental and domestic calls.
Great! I'll just dupe the job to them and go back in the hole.
Anonymous said...
Cook County doesn't have an agreement with the ACLU about free reign on ISRs. This is how street stops go up again
And who is going to be dumb enough to stop the CPD squad and let them.
What is a juice baby?
Clouted! Someone who knows somebody else who can take care of them. Example: a Lt. who's niece who never worked the street when that Lt. was in charge, and still doesn't. "Juice Baby"
If they ride in OUR then have them pay into OUR pension.
CCSPD has some good guys. They also have a lot of slackers/clout. They also have a lot of gang bangers. 26th is full of dope, follow the money.
Hahaha.... Maybe instead of climbing in a car with a CPD officer the county guys should be more concerned with looking for their almost 500 electronic monitoring inmates that have gone AWOL since their big tough on crime Sheriff has release them to the streets in his hug-a-thug attempt to empty the jail. I'm guessing that might have a better effect on crime.
It's just catch , tag and release......Just like a shark or a whale so the mating and migratory habits can be studied........
Hahaha.... Maybe instead of climbing in a car with a CPD officer the county guys should be more concerned with looking for their almost 500 electronic monitoring inmates that have gone AWOL since their big tough on crime Sheriff has release them to the streets in his hug-a-thug attempt to empty the jail. I'm guessing that might have a better effect on crime.
It's just catch , tag and release......Just like a shark or a whale so the mating and migratory habits can be studied........
12/13/2016 04:46:00 AM
That isn't what the CCSPD is responsible for. They are beat cops just like us and what most dont realize is they are more ballsy than some of those on this department. They work 99 and their backup could be 30 to 45 min away especially in this weather. They help us out a bunch on the west end of 008. Some live in the area so they hang out nearby to keep an eye on the home front. Clout baby's or not, they will bust someones head if you are in trouble. Truth is, the CCSPD academy they attend is far more rigorous than CPD. They train to work 99. It is a different academy than corrections so you can't compare them. Me? Been through both... CPD was a fuckn 6 and a half month vacation compared to CCSPD academy. CCSPD also has continuous training and I don't mean roll call videos either.
Don't talk shit when you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Especially about a group who will come to your aid when you need it most.
elPELON
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is to prepare for the impending merger. It has been done in several urban areas already in the 1990s and 2000. Examples include Louisville, Kentucky; St. Louis, Missouri; and most recently Indianapolis, Indiana. The biggest problem with this is the merging of "distinct cultures" which comes down to which style uniforms to wear, and what color to paint the cars, etc. Next, is how to merge the leadership and seniority issues.
12/12/2016 05:40:00 AM
St Louis City did not merge with the county, in 1877 St Louis City separated from the county and became an 'Independent' city along with Baltimore and Carson City, the only 3 such cities outside Virginia. Creating the St Louis City Sheriffs Dept. and City Circuit Court system. At that time the County Sheriff and courts moved out of the city, county buildings were taken over by the city. Separating is the only solution for Chicago, they would then control everything. Of course the County would need to build a new jail outside the city . The burbs having a new voting base would have new choices for voting in County officials. Merging would NOT work here.(Read the WIKI..interesting)
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Cook County doesn't have an agreement with the ACLU about free reign on ISRs. This is how street stops go up again
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Every cop in Illinois has to do these you goof because of the Governor. Nothing to do either ACLU, it's State law.
Does the CCSP have to submit ISRs?
12/12/2016 01:19:00 PM
Yes they do. Its a different form than ours but similar to our old contact card. Its state law.Every agency has them with the exception of ours being ten times longer and scrutinized by lawyers and aclu.
Dean if you put Kilmer on your ticket you are dome. I know multiple retirees that will not support Kilmer. Arrogant is only one of the words I will use to describe him. He treats us as if we are second class.
Since we're teaming up can we live outside the city limits too
I'm just saying
I think it's a stupid idea
Don't have same training as us
Somebody gone get hurt
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Back in the early 90's it was $5,000 in an envelope to the right person to get on with Cook County. In the jail.... After you served your time there, it was $10,000 to get into a squad car. Wonder what the going rate is these days?
12/12/2016 09:24:00 PM
it's still $10,000 for a commander or up position, paid yearly to the elected that put you there, you buy fundraising tickets of the manila envelope trick will they ever get caught?
Bicycles can actually move better than a car in a lot of situations...
You too out of shape for this possibility?
12/12/2016 10:43:00 PM
Yo Lance Armstrong, bikes belong in only 2 places: the lakefront and the beach during the summer. They have absolutely no business being in the hood at anytime.
The right thing to do is end the City police altogether, making all city cops sheriff's deputies rather than city cops. This takes Rahm out of the equation, it takes the city council out of the equation too. It puts the weight on the elected Sheriff, making them accountable to the voter, directly, as intended from the start.
If there is a scale difference, the higher scale controls. Pensions would be a bit tougher, but the solution there is a complete buy out and buy in process to move it from the city to the county. Rahm and co won't like it, but tough. Heck, Dart might not like it either, tough to him too.
It is past time our cops, and yes you are ours (your positions), are taken care of rather than used as political pawns and fall guys, as props. I wonder, what city cop would be against being a deputy rather than a mayoral pawn?
Anonymous said...
If they ride in OUR then have them pay into OUR pension.
12/13/2016 02:11:00 AM
At this point our pension is better funded than your's. Maybe you should pay in to ours.
I cant believe the ignorant people on here. Do you really think we want any part of this?
12 DEC @ 10:48 hrs. - An old state statute allows sheriffs to enforce local ordinances enacted within their county. Probably a throw back to when there were more deputies than local police. Now, a few civic groups are calling for metro agencies in order to save on vehicles, manpower, dispatching, and facilities. But are all these towns & villages going to give up local control of their police force? Probably not - each mayor/village president wants to be Commander in Chief of their own "army."
Retired .38 spl +P
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