Quotas to Cost New York
- New York City has agreed to pay up to $75 million to settle a federal class-action lawsuit that accused its Police Department of issuing hundreds of thousands of criminal summonses that were later found to be without legal justification, according to a signed copy of the proposed deal filed on Monday.
The summonses had been issued for typically minor offenses, like disorderly conduct, trespassing and drinking in public — quality-of-life concerns that had been a major theme of policing in New York for two decades or so.
Lawyers for the plaintiffs had asserted that the summonses were part of a policy that was “selectively and disproportionately enforced in minority communities.” That claim was also a focus of earlier lawsuits that had challenged the department’s policing philosophy that relied on stop, question and frisk encounters.
So pretty much like our ANOV's, pushed by McCompStat and others to justify their existence. In fact, the DOJ report and the ACLU agreement bring this up. Quotas lead to bad results - everyone knows this.....except this goof:
- Lieutenant [W] in the 20th district has been pressuring his midnight police officers to bring in activity, a quota, which is illegal.
His threats are to break up partners and make officers' lives miserable. He is pulling officers aside privately and telling them how many blue cards he wants. That is a quota. He is telling the officers they won't be able to work CHA or CTA if they, "don't bring in enough numbers." He is threatening to ship officers out to other districts for 3 months if they don't bring in enough activity.
Quotas are illegal. [W], it is only a matter of time until someone records you doing this and sends the recordings out to the media. Some media outlets will care. Someone will make it their mission to make sure the word gets out about your threats.
Lt. [W], you should be ashamed of yourself given you know the hostile climate towards officers because of the ACLU and the new states attorney, Kim Foxx.
Somebody up north might want to see if Lt [W] on midnights has a spare $75 million lying around to cover the eventual judgement he is steering the City toward. Not to mention that the FOP should be seeking witnesses to this unlawful coercion in order to make an unknown number of officers richer by tens of thousands of dollars.
He isn't the only one. How many other asshats with visions of a gold star in their future are willing to play this losing game?
He isn't the only one. How many other asshats with visions of a gold star in their future are willing to play this losing game?
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
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Same in 14 from Lt z. Got the speach the other day..."go grab some guys" was the phrase.
Conehead said the same thing about 'unattended vehicles'
Fuck this cocksucker in 020 and any other so called boss who is pushing activity in this day and age. Each and every one of these jagoffs can go fuck themselves
Ignore requests by Moron Bosses,They dont last long
Don't plan on FOP to do anything. Time and time again they don't return phone calls. The simplest of tasks.
Heard they are doing the same thing in 009 making threats to split up partners and want to attempt in switching day off groups, making all cars 3 man etc. don't know if it will happen rumor is because of lack of activity.
capt P in 001 is a class A weasel jagbag
So basically it comes down to this. Let the situation get so bad, to the point where family members of the liberal idealists get victimized and only then, when they are begging for justice and police involvement do we, the protectors of their existence, start becoming less fetal.
"He isn't the only one. How many other asshats with visions of a gold star in their future are willing to play this losing game?"
Great question, SCC. I can't wait to see the usual Cast of Clout outed here for being equally as stupid, or more so, when it comes to putting the arm on impressionable coppers dumb enough to even entertain the thought of playing the Numbers Game in this day and age. Speaking of which...
Alot of these Entitlement Generation kids are cement heads. You can't tell them shit and they've got everything figured out now that they're on a tact team with 2 or 3 years under their belt. I learned very early on to keep my mouth shut and pay attention, even when you got stuck working with the district dog. But it was a much different time then. These kids are too smart for their own good, and it's gonna come back and bite them in the ass hard.
And then we'll hear all the whining about how wrong is that they were stripped...
"We gotta make you fuckin' Coppers bring in some
fuckin' activity! Answering the fuckin' radio
and handling fuckin' paper jobs ain't fuckin' enough!
What the fuck? Ya fuckin' want me to ride in the fuckin'
car with ya and point out some fuckin' activity?
Fuck! Don't you guys fuckin' dare ask for time due!
I don't give a fuck if your kid got the sniffles or
your old lady got the bloat! You fuckers are here at
my fuckin' pleasure so I'm gonna fuck you guys until
you leave my district or do some fuckin' work!"
Oh Captain, my Captain...
Give us a number for this "activity"
you so desire.
"WOTDAFUK! INSUBORDINATION!"
The Activity Game, aka quotas by any other name
has been such a loser for Policemen...
Maybe some of these bosses need to turn over
their house keys and bank accounts to a few
plaintiffs to make how BAD this shit is,
crystal clear.
Flashback:
The old performance rating cards...
Jayzus... If ANYBODY had done any digging
when that shit was going on, pro sports
point-shaving scandals would pale in comparison.
"Ya... I'da gave ya a hunnert but ya don't
write enough parkers and movers..."
(Fuck how many burglars, stick-up men
car thieves and other low-lives you
catch...)
Protect yourselves only...
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Sure Lt... put it in writing & I will gladly comply with your demands.. until the whole watch file a complaint that he is making verbal threats making it a hostile work environment. Notify the fop. Have all the pos write to from to commander that this Lt is wanting to make quotas or he will ship you out,. Unfucking believable ....
how can any bosses look at any officers these days and demand that they go out and hit it hard. Listen, I understand that tac, gang and units should be out there doing it. as of right now the majority of them dont have in car cameras and body cameras so they have more freedom to still be the police, but once the body cameras are on everyone, including tac and gang teams then its game over. Nobody can be expected to work like we once did. those days will officially be gone, and its very sad. you just cant do it and you cant expect anyone to go out there and do it. Pretty much the only thing you can do with a camera is traffic stops that will usually just lead to driving with a suspended or revoked license. maybe a few lucky stops here and there will happen from those stops but real crime fighting is over. there will be no more street stops, no more foot chases, no more clearing corners etc. Just as recent as 5 years ago we would have missions in place where all tac teams worked nights one weekend a month and the lockup would have to get filled. most nights during these "sweeps" which were just anything that moved went to jail for anything and everything would net between 70-100 or more heads in a single tour on nights. Yes, it was petty but it worked. it took 70-100 thugs off the street, not hypes and winos but thugs and that one weekend would be pretty quiet because it was so damn hot with police. Now, nothing. we will never ever see that type of work happen ever again. its funny how much things can change in just 5 years. Youre lucky now to have more than 5 people in a district lock up at once now. once these body cameras hit everyone is gonna feel the pain. Coppers who like to work, coppers who like court, states attorneys, corrections officers and ironically defense attorneys and civil attorneys(boo hoo for the last two). Ive talked to several defense attorneys at 26th street and they even admit they arent making the money the use to make. some of them even say they are trying to continue the hell out of cases from a year or two ago so they can keep getting a few more bucks for continuance appearances. they use to get the big ticket cases just a year or two ago like big delivery cases, armed habitual, uuw charges and search warrants. all those types of cases are dwindling and now they are getting alot of calls to appear at traffic court, court for suspended and revoked and misdemeanor court. they would get 5-10K for a good UUW case for a guy with a bad backround where they are lucky now to get 500-2000 on a dwls, revoked or misdemeanor dui case. the lawyers even say they need police to get to work again... and for that reason only I say DONT DO A THING!!!!!!! Especially for the civil attorneys.
The 020th district is not alone with bosses demanding activity. There are more than a few bosses in OCD demanding A.N.O.V'S. It's almost laughable, only that they are serious. The weekly brainstorm from 35th is an activity driven load of crap, known as the S.A.V.M. Every sergeant assigned to mission must hand deliver numbers to commanding LT. at the end of the shift.
How in the world do you pressure cops relegated to 1st watch to do anything ?
Threaten to send them to days ? It takes over 16 years to get 3rd watch in 020 and 19.5 to get days .
Nothing knew they do it all over. I'm sure this guy wants to get promoted higher.
What about that sgt. Escalante from Area North Sat that comes in to roll call for VRI and tells people that he expects at least two (2) blue cards from each car...? GTFOH. He's definitely going places...
I heard that a guy in 20 who went from midnights to days on management had to promise and deliver 5 blue cards a day . Quotas are alive and well on the CPD .
Um you listening bubblehead? He doesn't give a shit anyways because all he has to do is retire and collect that pension while he hangs out his blue shirts to dry. Retire already you miserable bastard
Hmmmm...
"Quotas to Cost New York"
And guess what other East Coast city
might be looking at the same thing?
Did anyone say Newark?
And what of Chicago?
All three places were visited by the
Garry McCarthy L.E. Gypsy Traveling
Medicine Show that peddled Comp-Stat
poison as a law enforcement cure-all.
The mayors and council members of each
city should be held personally liable
instead of the taxpayers taking the whack.
Hmmm... G-Mac has been spooked into his
hidey hole, he's been quiet.
Not a problem just start recording them even at every roll call. It only takes a push of a button to start recording off your smart phone. And the microphones on these smartphones are excellent !! These bosses can't find out who did it.
Release the recording to the media I'm sure they will run with it especially with all this anti police narrative going on.
Teach these assholes a lesson and make an example out of this prick. There are quite a few officers already who have white shirts recorded they just don't know it yet.
Stay safe, stay fetal, stay alive!!
025 3rd watch
And remember, YOU are responsible for punitive damages:
Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Sgt. Adams Lin watched helplessly on Saturday as federal marshals seized his personal belongings — including his car, clothes, television and furniture...
http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/crime--law/marshals-seize-pbso-deputy-property-pay-shooting-victim/
Goofs like him need to be recorded pulling those stunts.
What will the troops in 020 midnights do about it?
God, McCompstat was a blustery, arrogant fool.
To the unpublished "honest criticism"
1- he said, she said - prove it didn't happen exactly like the copper said. You have audio? Are you sure audio doesn't already exist? Careful
2- we didn't "quote" the DOJ report - we referenced it. Have you read it? We did and you obviously haven't. We know it's a sham, but we also know it's the hammer used to beat the CPD and the measure used to judge all actions from here on out. That's called REALITY
3- See the indented paragraphs? That's the comment we're quoting. We've been doing it like that for almost 11 years now. So to attribute a quoted text to us falls under the "Reading is a skill" retort. We didn't write it, so don't attribute it to us in an effort to build your strawman argument.
4- Asshat
To the other unpublished "Whaaaaaaa"
No one said he did it at roll call. They said he pulled people aside, so he's at least intelligent enough to realize he'd be in a world of shit if he had witnesses to this.
He is threatening to break up partners and make officers lives miserable. That is the part I find funny. Imagine, the CPD can make officers lives miserable. I did not know that.
I heard that a guy in 20 who went from midnights to days on management had to promise and deliver 5 blue cards a day . Quotas are alive and well on the CPD .
1/26/2017 01:05:00 AM
No, the DC actually demanded 5 ISRs per day from him if he wanted a management spot on days. Blue cards would've been a hell of a lot easier, but now this guy has to stop and do contact cards on at least 5 people EVERY DAY working 99. That's five times each day for the rest of his career he will be gambling with fate if he stops the wrong one and God forbid it turns bad. These bosses are nothing but political shysters, and they prey on officers who are in difficult situations at home who will do just about anything to alleviate those stresses/problems. I know some are in tough spots in their family lives, but it's nothing compared to being civilly sued or worse - federally indicted or killed.
Blue cards and ANOV's are not hard to find, especially blue cards, however in this climate why even ask.
Don't worry, Chicago. The Feds will come to take care of things. CPD will be reduced to just taking reports and writing tickets. The Feds will solve the crimes.
Lt "M" from 007 midnights is demanding the exact same thing with the exact same threats. Is this what they teach at the LT class or something?
Don't worry, the Feds are coming to clean up Chicago. CPD can just write tickets and take reports.
Lt W sounds likeva jagoff Hope the commander reads the blog, W is a cancer
tac has quotas, no one talks bout that
Anonymous said...
capt P in 001 is a class A weasel jagbag
1/26/2017 12:26:00 AM
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No kidding! Glad you got him now.
Anonymous said...
Don't plan on FOP to do anything. Time and time again they don't return phone calls. The simplest of tasks.
1/26/2017 12:18:00 AM
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But they have no problem spending 50k on golf shoes!
Goodbye Dean and crew = you're done!
Are any people even awake in 020 on midnights?
Leadership at all levels of the CPD is lacking and thoughtless.
We are witnessing the dismantling of Any Form of Proactive Policing! I have taught American Policing at a Community College for the last six years and participated in Proactive Policing prior to my retirement from the Chicago Police Department at the rank of Sergeant. Much of the concept of the ANOV was to provide an Excuse and Profit. The excuse was to run the name of the subject to see if he was wanted for more than spitting or smoking on the CTA. And the second reason was to generate revenue for the City. All of this goes back to when a New York Mayor instituted in the 90's, the Concept of Zero Tolerance! Any infraction was viewed as a Reasonable Suspicion to believe wrong doing was occurring and justified the Stop. However, that was in an entirely different world than what we have seen in the last 8 yrs. Nationally and locally. We had a President for the last 8 yrs. who detested American Law Enforcement and an Attorney General who agreed with the President in his disdain for American Law Enforcement. And what is most Ironic in all of this is that we have a Mayor who was part of their team but he wants you to go out and do your job, but he too detests you. Add to all of this, the fact that we are facing a Media, that encourages the anti-America attitude and sides with the offenders, portraying them as "Victims"; and police as THE BAD GUYS, EVIL AND AN ENEMY! Any Chicago Cop who does more than answer his/her calls and protects other officers is jeopardizing their family, career and freedom. It takes very Unique people to run toward gunfire rather than away from it. Yet, there comes a point when you must think of yourselves FIRST! We as a Society have reached that point, and there is no turning back. The day will come when we will see No Go Zones in parts of American Cities. In fact it already is happening; does anyone advertise: "When visiting Chicago, be sure to stop by Exciting Austin or Englewood, to truly enjoy your Chicago Experience!" Chicago is in trouble, and the "Lil Tough Guy from Wilmette, who loves those lil French Restaurants that you and I will never afford, is in way over his head. Baby"G"
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not a problem just start recording them even at every roll call. It only takes a push of a button to start recording off your smart phone. And the microphones on these smartphones are excellent !! These bosses can't find out who did it.
Release the recording to the media I'm sure they will run with it especially with all this anti police narrative going on.
Teach these assholes a lesson and make an example out of this prick. There are quite a few officers already who have white shirts recorded they just don't know it yet.
Stay safe, stay fetal, stay alive!!
025 3rd watch
1/26/2017 01:31:00 AM
Great post! Can you imagine the look on their faces when it's a channel 5 news investigation !! Lol
It would be priceless!! Especially with the jag off commander you guys have I bet whoever has it has got that arrogant asshole dead to rights.
Keep up the good fight !!!
WOW ! Just read about the situation in Palm Beach County . They took everything from sgt lin except for his underwear and socks . Police officers might have to learn a thing or two from drug dealers . Rent housing , furniture , car's and hide your cash . Every copper should read and learn from that case . Oh yeah , don't forget to pick up a burner phone .
Turn your cameras and audio on at roll call
Every night at roll call our bosses say the same shit. "Back in our day we had to bring our Parker & mover books just to drop a slip. We ain't doing it yet, but keep coming in with zeros and you'll see!" Along with the ole "we will put you with the watch idiot, or split you and your patner up, take you off your car if you don't start producing."
Of course when you do go out and be the police and step in shit for that, the same guy preaching the shit says "you shouldn't have done that, I never said to do that." And the blame falls all on you.
Lessons learned. Body cameras are coming.Use them, especially when the bosses come to Rollcall.
Record it or it didn't happen.
020 was famous in the early 1980's. the third watch refused to go on the street after roll call. They were protesting work conditions. FOP did not exist and white shirts routinely treated officers very poorly. It took a boss form 11th and state to convince the officers to work. That action helped officers to eventually form a union.
Because of supervisors are promoted by clout they lack the knowledge and experience to lead officers and develop strategies to address crime problems. They rely on numbers only. We had 4 years of this strategy with McCarthy which resulted in a new ISR form. If there are lawsuits, the beat officers are the targets, not management. People's law office are watching and waiting for a lawsuit, Stay fetal.
If your still that has a skull full of mush and listen to the pos bosses who are pushing you for quotas and you get into shit you are responsible for your own demise, say goodbye to your job,family,freedom as that same boss smiles as he/she gets promoted and laughs at Eddie as they all do, is the first supt. in cpd history that kept the same management structure that did nothing, just shuffled the deck and let them suck more money and do nothing (among other things being sucked PG rated).
Doing the job properly, follow every general order, "follow the law" completely it will let you retire, keep your blood pressure in range and you will happier promise you that. Bosses come and go and really does the respect granted from years ago still stand? You know that answer, listen to the boss, fake laugh record the statements, take it from your recording device put on a "jump stick" and make another copy save it put it somewhere with "in case they come after me" label then release.
Can you imagine the things the "spirits of the air" SCC has in the "vault" Think spirits are everywhere at all times, but then remain invisible until the time is right God bless the spirits for the hours of tireless work thank you!
You guys are wrong. No one would care if this Lt. From 020 was recorded. Look at the demographics of the area. He is just trying to not make the department look so racist, as the doj report told us we are. ACLU approves his message.
To be fair, you are backing the wrong horse in this one. This lt is not out to hurt anyone, in fact just the opposite. This stemmed from addressing roll calls about possible changes in the upper supervisory structure that could see additional lt.s on the watch and the possibility of having a civilianized evaluation system. The lt clearly stated that in the face of these changes, it would be in everyone's best interest to not be "that guy" with zeros on a monthly basis. At no time did he threaten anyone with anything nor did he set any numbers as a quota. He made the argument that any new supervisors will bring with them their own style of motivation which could include some of the things that were listed. As to any private conversations he had with officers he may have pulled aside, I have no knowledge of what was said in private. Only that he mentioned that he might be doing that and even prefaced it by saying it was in the spirit of helping them to help themselves and wasn't going to be a beat down session. And having worked for him for a while now, i believe that was the intention and I highly doubt that specific numbers were demanded as they have never been in the past. But some people can not be told anything without getting their snowflake bent out of shape. You are never going to have a supervisor that makes everyone happy because a lot of coppers have unrealistic expectations of being accommodated for every request. But this lt is not someone who deserves to be dragged through the mud just for doing his jog of addressing someone who clearly isn't doing their job.
In before the "what if i dont see any violations" rhetoric. The word "reasonable" appears many times in the law books as a standard. So trying to use that logic, At what point does it become unreasonable that a police officer working a midnight shift with a light call volume cant find one motorist that has or does something wrong to merit a traffic stop? 2 days? 1 week? 3 weeks? a month? 2 months? My point being we are not fooling anyone. The average citizen will pass some clown with no lights on at all, or having one headlight a couple times on their way home at night, so dont expect them to believe we cant find any in a month.
McNumbnuts tends to leave shit like this in his wake.
Understand it is not now what you do but it will haunt you in later years, simple answer is follow the law, follow general orders, never follow the boss, the "ata boy" and an early duck is not worth sacrificing your entire future!
This is nothing new. Various terms have been used throughout the years, but it's still a quota. The supervisors were told in a staff meeting what was expected from each officer. I expressed my concern that it sounded like a quota. I took it further and got a CR number on the Captain and Commander who made the statement. Of course, BIA did nothing to the merit hacks and unfounded the beef. What was to follow for me....... multiple levels of discipline. An attempt to get another CR for retaliation was futile. There are supervisors that are standing up to these merit hacks. So far I'm looking at 3 days, while waiting for the last retaliatory CR to come back.
I can't even find 20 is that in chicago!
The problems of a slow district we don't want to right ANOVS cmon. We have officers getting there head smashed in 011 mass shootings in 007 and teams of shoplifters in the lovely 001.
You egg heads in 020 just send an email to the inspector general with actual facts and dates and witnesses. And a copy of the law you fear so much. (tip dont use your own email or computer)
We know none of you will ever bid out good luck.
same thing Obama said about the jaywalking citations in Ferguson - the disproportionality is no justified by the racial crime rate - bs it's not
“selectively and disproportionately enforced in minority communities." although any day at work I can see someone drop their pants and take a sh** on Cicero Ave in broad daylight in 015.
Quality of life in the "community" is what it is because they don't want the "Police", so let the litter, both human and plastic bags of diapers prevail.
Let them step in shit till they get tired of it and start outting the dogs that prey on their own.
Get a cheap body cam, pay for it yourself, record any threat by anyone and maybe it will end, but I doubt it!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not a problem just start recording them even at every roll call. It only takes a push of a button to start recording off your smart phone. And the microphones on these smartphones are excellent !! These bosses can't find out who did it.
Release the recording to the media I'm sure they will run with it especially with all this anti police narrative going on.
Teach these assholes a lesson and make an example out of this prick. There are quite a few officers already who have white shirts recorded they just don't know it yet.
Stay safe, stay fetal, stay alive!!
025 3rd watch
1/26/2017 01:31:00 AM
Please lead by example. While I agree the LT is a moron and that quotas are illegal; guess what else is illegal?
Audio recording someone with out their consent. Also a violation of city policy to record co workers or superiors inside your work place.
So go ahead and do an illegal wire tap with your smart phone. Just don't call me to buy a ticket for your benefit.
SCC said...
To the other unpublished "Whaaaaaaa"
No one said he did it at roll call. They said he pulled people aside, so he's at least intelligent enough to realize he'd be in a world of shit if he had witnesses to this.
1/26/2017 04:52:00 AM
For all you Coppers dealing with these horrible
supervisors.
If one of these morons asks you to "step in this
room and close the door," say in a loud voice
that you're afraid of him/her hurting you or trying
to take advantage of you and that you feel
safest that he/she says what they need to say
in the open or that they make an accommodation
by having several witnesses of your choosing
to "step in this room" with you...
"INSUBORDINATION!"
No it's not.
It's a reasonable accommodation.
You guys had better pool resources
and fight these bad bosses back.
Invest in lawyers and P.I.s...
Seriously.
The Gold Star echelon has turned
their cannons around toward YOU
guys because the only answer they
have to the violence and loss of control
of the streets is to target YOU!
The demand for quota based activity
shows how ignorant, unevolved and
divorced from reality these bosses are.
Wow, 2 smackdowns in a row. If this had been a talk radio format the callers would've been cut off by the T-Rex roar of an old school 3.8 gallon toilet flushing.
Rock on and keep your pimp hand free . . .
(OT) looks like tough guy Brenda o Reilly alderman who hangs out in downtown bars (burp fart Otis) is going after the street musical genius with buckets. Your a real law and Order guy have you returned that huge campaign contribution that President Trump gave you that you promised to give back after the election. What happened to Trumps sign did you smartly put it back up or cowardly hide it!
How about cutting the bullshit and help the police, you could be a leader rahm has all that taxpayers rebate cash put it into police retirees health care restore it got balls? Crickets thought so!
Fuck him, call him out by name.
Off topic, did you know that there was a state law passed that allows us to use our medical time to take care of sick immediate relatives (kids, parents, siblings)? And if you utilize it you shouldn't have to report to the medical section to get cleared because you do not have to be assessed for duty fitness. The department hopes nobody tries it because they don't know what to do if somebody does. I called HR to confirm and they said the law did pass but there is no policy on how to implement it yet. Hello FOP?
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/414/right-to-remain-silent
Interesting story (with recordings) about an NYPD officer who secretly recorded roll calls and his tours of duty. A deputy chief eventually involuntarily committed the officer for psychiatric evaluation (also secretly recorded). Story is in "Act 2" at about the 17 minute mark.
Grab some guys, put 5 on the hood, gimme more gimme more...
Hard Chargers get their jollies until they're crying the suspension was too harsh.
Lts love to boast how they did it.
Lts love to tell you how to do it.
Lts love it when they get to save their spot at your expense.
Lts will not be sticking their neck out to save you when that ISR complains to the revrun.
Remember - once you give in to a chickenshit boss, they own you.
Stay Fetal - 1st & 16th pays the same CityWide at any hour of operation.
Lawsuits regarding setting of quotas should fall at the feet of the individual supervisors at this point. No one can reasonably make the argument that "I thought it was legal!"
If he's doing it to one or everyone grow some and tell him to put it in writing via email. He is creating a hostile working environment and call the union. Also inform him of the DOJ report on quotas and its also illegal.Your on midnight's so what can he do. If he details you out(highly unlikely)who cares.Call his bluff and tell him go for it. Then for sure CR for hostile working conditions.
Time due is by seniority submitted 7 days in advance....
WTF is WRONG with these bosses?
7th district tact Sgt asks for numbers constantly. This never changes.
WOW ! Just read about the situation in Palm Beach County . They took everything from sgt lin except for his underwear and socks . Police officers might have to learn a thing or two from drug dealers . Rent housing , furniture , car's and hide your cash . Every copper should read and learn from that case . Oh yeah , don't forget to pick up a burner phone .
1/26/2017 08:12:00 AM
Geeze, at least copy and paste the link you just read for us
28 years service in the Royal Hong Kong Police. If you were caught setting any sort of target, ANY sort, you were fired immediately.
Targets were correctly called "The Gateway To Corruption".
Oh yeah , don't forget to pick up a burner phone .
1/26/2017 08:12:00 AM
Or two. Save one for when you really need it.
You police officers are now driving the bus. The view from the front is nice. Enjoy the ride and be safe.
Westside Lt.
Midnight Lt. in Mass Transit, big jag off too. Threatened Officers to sign a counseling form for lack of activity. All the Officers made a copy with his signature on them. Good Riddance Asshole. Even your old Commander from 012 was glad to see you leave, he called you useless. You know what everybody thinks of him!
To the person saying, "you backed the wrong horse," A. you need better sentence structure.
B. You are wrong. Lt. Wu of the 20th district said and did all the things that were, "insinuated." There are several officers on first watch that Wu has confronted privately. He has told them that he wants at least 2 blue cards per tour.
Commander Loughran also of the 20th district, who is supposedly related by marriage to Alderman Burke, is at fault for putting the pressure on Lt. Wu to get these blue cards from the officers of the 1st watch, 20th district. ISR's too.
Whomever replied that, "you backed the wrong horse," you are either a boss or the watch suck up.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To be fair, you are backing the wrong horse in this one. This lt is not out to hurt anyone, in fact just the opposite. This stemmed from addressing roll calls about possible changes in the upper supervisory structure that could see additional lt.s on the watch and the possibility of having a civilianized evaluation system. The lt clearly stated that in the face of these changes, it would be in everyone's best interest to not be "that guy" with zeros on a monthly basis. At no time did he threaten anyone with anything nor did he set any numbers as a quota. He made the argument that any new supervisors will bring with them their own style of motivation which could include some of the things that were listed. As to any private conversations he had with officers he may have pulled aside, I have no knowledge of what was said in private. Only that he mentioned that he might be doing that and even prefaced it by saying it was in the spirit of helping them to help themselves and wasn't going to be a beat down session. And having worked for him for a while now, i believe that was the intention and I highly doubt that specific numbers were demanded as they have never been in the past. But some people can not be told anything without getting their snowflake bent out of shape. You are never going to have a supervisor that makes everyone happy because a lot of coppers have unrealistic expectations of being accommodated for every request. But this lt is not someone who deserves to be dragged through the mud just for doing his jog of addressing someone who clearly isn't doing their job.
In before the "what if i dont see any violations" rhetoric. The word "reasonable" appears many times in the law books as a standard. So trying to use that logic, At what point does it become unreasonable that a police officer working a midnight shift with a light call volume cant find one motorist that has or does something wrong to merit a traffic stop? 2 days? 1 week? 3 weeks? a month? 2 months? My point being we are not fooling anyone. The average citizen will pass some clown with no lights on at all, or having one headlight a couple times on their way home at night, so dont expect them to believe we cant find any in a month.
1/26/2017 09:08:00 AM
100 % AGREE!
This Lt has never threatened to "break up any partners or make anyone's live's miserable", nor has he threatened to prevent anyone from working "CHA or CTA" unless they bring in activity. Furthermore, he has never threatened to ship officers out to other districts...first of all we are protected by the contract.
He has never demanded any activity and certainly has never placed a number on anything.
He does have an open door policy & is quite approachable & we routinely stop into the office throughout the night.
He has always looked out for us & is genuinely concerned about us & always accommodating. We all have our own issues at home & he has gone above & beyond to help me and my partner in any way that he can. He is one of the few "good bosses" left and it is very dis-heartening to see him being persecuted in this manner on the blog.
Having worked for this lt for over 2 years now, I can honestly say that his intentions are good & he genuinely does care about us & the information he shared with us was twisted into lies against him.
I guess his biggest mistake is caring about us!
"Better the devil you know, than the devil you don't!"
Anonymous said...
I heard that a guy in 20 who went from midnights to days on management had to promise and deliver 5 blue cards a day . Quotas are alive and well on the CPD .
1/26/2017 01:05:00 AM
No, the DC actually demanded 5 ISRs per day from him if he wanted a management spot on days. Blue cards would've been a hell of a lot easier, but now this guy has to stop and do contact cards on at least 5 people EVERY DAY working 99. That's five times each day for the rest of his career he will be gambling with fate if he stops the wrong one and God forbid it turns bad. These bosses are nothing but political shysters, and they prey on officers who are in difficult situations at home who will do just about anything to alleviate those stresses/problems. I know some are in tough spots in their family lives, but it's nothing compared to being civilly sued or worse - federally indicted or killed.
1/26/2017 05:46:00 AM
You guys have that all wrong, actually, the Commander demanded the officer's first born child!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Time due is by seniority submitted 7 days in advance....
1/26/2017 03:18:00 PM
Wrong....time due is by who the boss wants to give it to, seniority has no bearing on it. Personal days are by seniority.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Don't plan on FOP to do anything. Time and time again they don't return phone calls. The simplest of tasks.
1/26/2017 12:18:00 AM
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But they have no problem spending 50k on golf shoes!
Goodbye Dean and crew = you're done!
1/26/2017 06:53:00 AM
ps That's retail. Cut your total by 40%. Vendors picked up some. Gift store profits make up the paper loss by year's end. Nothing to see here. Angelo cut his salary from Donahue's high of 209K by more than the paper loss.
Response to 1:47am
"U.S. Magistrate Barry Seltzer ordered Federal Marshals to return Sgt. Lin's belongings"
Sgt. Lin's property was exempt from seizure under state law.
Mypalmbeachpost.com. 1/18/17 19:41
Still a pain in the ass for the Sgt. And embarrassing. Time to move Sgt.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not a problem just start recording them even at every roll call. It only takes a push of a button to start recording off your smart phone. And the microphones on these smartphones are excellent !! These bosses can't find out who did it.
Release the recording to the media I'm sure they will run with it especially with all this anti police narrative going on.
Teach these assholes a lesson and make an example out of this prick. There are quite a few officers already who have white shirts recorded they just don't know it yet.
Stay safe, stay fetal, stay alive!!
025 3rd watch
1/26/2017 01:31:00 AM
Please lead by example. While I agree the LT is a moron and that quotas are illegal; guess what else is illegal?
Audio recording someone with out their consent. Also a violation of city policy to record co workers or superiors inside your work place.
So go ahead and do an illegal wire tap with your smart phone. Just don't call me to buy a ticket for your benefit.
1/26/2017 10:57:00 AM
Record anyway...
Take written notes too...
Then type up a detailed abstract based on your recording
and do with it what you will.
DON'T BE LAZY/HALF-ASSED WHEN YOU DO THIS!
Be careful who you share information with.
Some Coppers hold their manhood and pride
rather cheaply or they don't know how to
keep their mouths shut.
Reduce these bad, incompetent, tone-deaf bosses
to spinning around on the floor like Curly from the Three Stooges.
So...
How much fight ya got in ya?
Quota for TICKETS during a certain period of time are illegal.
...Nothing in this Section shall prohibit a municipality from evaluating a
police officer based on the police officer's points of contact.
For the purposes of this Section, "points of contact" means any
quantifiable contact made in the furtherance of the police
officer's duties, including, but not limited to, the number of
traffic stops completed, arrests, written warnings, and crime
prevention measures. Points of contact shall not include either
the issuance of citations or the number of citations issued by
a police officer.
If one of these morons asks you to "step in this
room and close the door," say in a loud voice
that you're afraid of him/her hurting you or trying
to take advantage of you and that you feel
safest that he/she says what they need to say
in the open or that they make an accommodation
by having several witnesses of your choosing
to "step in this room" with you...
"INSUBORDINATION!"
No it's not.
It's a reasonable accommodation.
You guys had better pool resources
and fight these bad bosses back.
Invest in lawyers and P.I.s...
Seriously.
The Gold Star echelon has turned
their cannons around toward YOU
guys because the only answer they
have to the violence and loss of control
of the streets is to target YOU!
The demand for quota based activity
shows how ignorant, unevolved and
divorced from reality these bosses are.
1/26/2017 11:08:00 AM
Hey Suzy Snowflake, do that to any supervisor with half a brain and you have made their day so much easier. What was a simple "Do your your job" just turned into a CL for disobeying an order. At least a day or three off with no pay to contemplate taking advice from some moron on the blog that doesn't have a dog in this hunt.
A simple yes sir/ma'am and you go about your business. Be smart and stop being so delicate.
How. Many arrests does lt. W. Have , does lt. W in 20 work a full tour
To: 1/26/2017 5:35 p.m.
Whoever you are, you are not part of this 1st watch. No one on the 020th district first watch would say nice things about Lt. Wu. This guy has been pushing numbers on the entire watch for quite some time and people who are actually on midnights are down right sick of it.
He made the argument that any new supervisors will bring with them their own style of motivation which could include some of the things that were listed. As to any private conversations he had with officers he may have pulled aside, I have no knowledge of what was said in private. Only that he mentioned that he might be doing that and even prefaced it by saying it was in the spirit of helping them to help themselves
I've heard the same kind of crap from Domestic battery offenders: "I had to hit her so she wouldn't hurt herself."
Lt "w" is a very good guy and doesn't deserve to be called out on the blog by people that don't know him nor know the circumstances by which he had to speak with the officers.
Gee, why is it illegal to record another you are having your own conversation with? I wonder?! Yuppers, it is to protect the CORRUPT from their own lies and corruption.
Yes Illinois is a two party state. So what, it is time to discard that pathetic intrusion and baseless law. It simply has no standing, when we face recordings literally everywhere we go all day every day.
It is time asshats are exposed in the news just as SCC talked about.
Shit rolls downhill boys and girls so either the punks pushing this garbage get nailed now, or YOU GUYS get it later.
Take your pick.
Hey Suzy Snowflake, do that to any supervisor with half a brain and you have made their day so much easier. What was a simple "Do your your job" just turned into a CL for disobeying an order. At least a day or three off with no pay to contemplate taking advice from some moron on the blog that doesn't have a dog in this hunt.
A simple yes sir/ma'am and you go about your business. Be smart and stop being so delicate.
1/26/2017 07:46:00 PM
Hey Tuff-Guy O'Tool...
You're so busy being outraged by what the poster said
that the context was lost on you.
Gawd...
The legends in their own mind on this job...
To: Wrong....time due is by who the boss wants to give it to, seniority has no bearing on it. Personal days are by seniority.
Ummmm, sorry but you're wrong. Per last contract seniority is the rule.
Never thought I'd come on here and see this Lt's being called out. He's not at all what he's being portrayed as on here. It's sick that anyone with an ax to grind can just come on here and talk shit anonymously. It's not right. He's a good supervisor that looks out for his guys and he's an even better person. Just sickening to see this post.
U can't say anything to these snowflakes anymore. U try to actually do your job as a boss and they come on here and drag your name thru the mud. What a joke this place has become. Bunch of cry babies. I long for the days of the old time bosses that didn't give two shits what u thought of them and would call out these pansyies. He asked you to do your f'n job. Stop one f'n car a month. And that's too much for these snowflakes to handle. What a joke.
Anonymous said...
020 was famous in the early 1980's. the third watch refused to go on the street after roll call. They were protesting work conditions. FOP did not exist and white shirts routinely treated officers very poorly. It took a boss form 11th and state to convince the officers to work. That action helped officers to eventually form a union.
Because of supervisors are promoted by clout they lack the knowledge and experience to lead officers and develop strategies to address crime problems. They rely on numbers only. We had 4 years of this strategy with McCarthy which resulted in a new ISR form. If there are lawsuits, the beat officers are the targets, not management. People's law office are watching and waiting for a lawsuit, Stay fetal.
1/26/2017 08:41:00 AM
You're right about this, except it actually took place in the mid-70's. I was there. A street deputy who we all respected was called in and convinced us to go out. I believe the captain, who was the problem was moved shortly thereafter. No disciplinary action was ever taken against us, not because they didn't want to but they didn't want to embarrass the Department. It did show that us at that time that as individuals we were helpless but as a group with one purpose, even in such a seemingly trivial event as this ... we were much stronger. It was, as the poster indicated, one of the catalysts for the formation of the union.
Turn on the body cams they love so much... if it happens to pick up Lt. asking for a quota - that's fantastic... Let Zekman the Troll at Ch. 2 know what to FOIA... boom.
God I hate working for the Chicago police dept!!
Anonymous said...
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/414/right-to-remain-silent
Interesting story (with recordings) about an NYPD officer who secretly recorded roll calls and his tours of duty. A deputy chief eventually involuntarily committed the officer for psychiatric evaluation (also secretly recorded). Story is in "Act 2" at about the 17 minute mark.
1/26/2017 01:57:00 PM Anonymous said...
Ummmm...lemme guess Adrian Schoolcraft? Ancient history man, good to know, but old news.
Just contact the DOJ if your getting harassed by this white shirt for activity. As long as your doing your job its wrong what this Lt is doing if it is true.
In one ear out the other. Just do your job guys and don't get pressured into doing anything that will ruin your career.
Wrong....time due is by who the boss wants to give it to, seniority has no bearing on it. Personal days are by seniority.
Read the contract dummy. That all changed. Seniority rules all time off.
how can any bosses look at any officers these days and demand that they go out and hit it hard. Listen, I understand that tac, gang and units should be out there doing it. as of right now the majority of them dont have in car cameras and body cameras so they have more freedom to still be the police, but once the body cameras are on everyone, including tac and gang teams then its game over. Nobody can be expected to work like we once did. those days will officially be gone, and its very sad. you just cant do it and you cant expect anyone to go out there and do it. Pretty much the only thing you can do with a camera is traffic stops that will usually just lead to driving with a suspended or revoked license. maybe a few lucky stops here and there will happen from those stops but real crime fighting is over. there will be no more street stops, no more foot chases, no more clearing corners etc. Just as recent as 5 years ago we would have missions in place where all tac teams worked nights one weekend a month and the lockup would have to get filled. most nights during these "sweeps" which were just anything that moved went to jail for anything and everything would net between 70-100 or more heads in a single tour on nights.
HUH? didnt you ever watch cops???
What about that sgt. Escalante from Area North Sat that comes in to roll call for VRI and tells people that he expects at least two (2) blue cards from each car...? GTFOH. He's definitely going places.
And when they cancel VRI cause they have nothing to show for it, and the citizens are hiring private security forces to work in Wrigleyville and near north they wont need you anymore!! Goodbye VRI goodbye special employment, look what they did with CTA, CHA keep going Defund the police, "why hire 1000 more cops if they dont do nuttin" the last statement made during 60 minutes regarding Chicago crime. WAKE the fuck at least look and act like you care
Are you serious? You work in 020!! He asks for 1 blue card a day, and you are complaining about that! Seriously??? I would give him like 4 a day if I could work in 020. You work in the best district in the city, do the damn card and shut your trap!
#whistelblower!!!
Geeze, at least copy and paste the link you just read for us
1/26/2017 04:24:00 PM
It was posted here:
And remember, YOU are responsible for punitive damages:
Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Sgt. Adams Lin watched helplessly on Saturday as federal marshals seized his personal belongings — including his car, clothes, television and furniture...
http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/crime--law/marshals-seize-pbso-deputy-property-pay-shooting-victim/
1/26/2017 01:47:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Time due is by seniority submitted 7 days in advance....
1/26/2017 03:18:00 PM
Wrong....time due is by who the boss wants to give it to, seniority has no bearing on it. Personal days are by seniority.
1/26/2017 06:16:00 PM
Nope, your wrong. even c/u is by seniority, it's in the contract
I still remember that midnight LT. Princess in 018 who wanted contact cards from the cars working one block of Cambridge, usually on a freezing, rainy night. That poor Bastard who pushed the shopping cart up and down the street has more paper on him then the IRS.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Time due is by seniority submitted 7 days in advance....
1/26/2017 03:18:00 PM
Wrong....time due is by who the boss wants to give it to, seniority has no bearing on it. Personal days are by seniority.
1/26/2017 06:16:00 PM
It's by seniority as long as the slip is in by 7 days. Under 7 days is considered emergency time and is at the discretion of the WOL. Call the FOP and get informed.
Off topic, did you know that there was a state law passed that allows us to use our medical time to take care of sick immediate relatives (kids, parents, siblings)? And if you utilize it you shouldn't have to report to the medical section to get cleared because you do not have to be assessed for duty fitness. The department hopes nobody tries it because they don't know what to do if somebody does. I called HR to confirm and they said the law did pass but there is no policy on how to implement it yet. Hello FOP?
Yeah after you burn all your comp time you can take an unpaid leave FLMA
Anonymous Anonymous said...
“selectively and disproportionately enforced in minority communities." although any day at work I can see someone drop their pants and take a sh** on Cicero Ave in broad daylight in 015.
++++++
I thought the same thing. You mean you don't see this and groups of pissers, drinkers, lopsided sales, people obstructing traffic in Garfield Ridge, Edison Park and certain other neighborhoods? Hmmmmm, I wonder why?
LT. Wu is a good guy. I worked for him in 006. He treated me with care and compassion when I had a personal tragedy. I will never forget his kindness. The other LT, however, Valerie R., was a complete POS that could rot for all I care. He is a weak ass never has been the police that tells tall tales but never hit the streets, despite being junior in time compared to Wu. Guess who was always the field LT and the house mouse LT? Reading the response regarding sensitive snowflakes and how LT Wu was citing a civilian evaluation company, it makes sense and I could see him suggesting, not threatening POs. I just don't see that as being in his nature. Even if it is who cares? If you think you can get bounced out of your district, perhaps you'd be interested in purchasing a bridge I built to Canada? You can't be forced to do activity. What could the punishment be? Broken up car? Learn to get along with others. More talks? Great, in one ear, out the other.
I don't think supervisors, such as SGTs want to have dudes on their watch chasing hot cars and other BS. I think it's hilarious listening to the radio. Idiots still chasing hot cars and calling our directions and trying to buy just a few more minutes. You don't think their SGT isn't thinking "great, I get more paperwork and god forbid jagoff hits/injures or kills a pedestrian, I'm also looking at a lawsuit!?" Of course he/she is. I think most bosses get it these days. Most SGTs certainly do. You have the few idiots that still push numbers but some may just do that because they feel the need for work ethics, which is what any leader or supervisor in any normal job would do.
Response to 1:47am
"U.S. Magistrate Barry Seltzer ordered Federal Marshals to return Sgt. Lin's belongings"
Sgt. Lin's property was exempt from seizure under state law.
Mypalmbeachpost.com. 1/18/17 19:41
Still a pain in the ass for the Sgt. And embarrassing. Time to move Sgt.
Better yet, don't be out there shooting unarmed people in the back, causing them to be paralyzed for life.
smoke in the wind, no fire here.....life, limb, property......streams of revenue fall else where.....accountability now over takes any productivity concerns........bean counters sit behind their desks and fear no where to go........vent on the troops......stay fetal and safe.....
signed,
District 020
Power Rangers,
1st watch,
2nd watch,
3rd watch, and
Tactical....
Anonymous said...
how can any bosses look at any officers these days and demand that they go out and hit it hard. Listen, I understand that tac, gang and units should be out there doing it. as of right now the majority of them dont have in car cameras and body cameras so they have more freedom to still be the police, but once the body cameras are on everyone, including tac and gang teams then its game over. Nobody can be expected to work like we once did. those days will officially be gone, and its very sad. you just cant do it and you cant expect anyone to go out there and do it. Pretty much the only thing you can do with a camera is traffic stops that will usually just lead to driving with a suspended or revoked license. maybe a few lucky stops here and there will happen from those stops but real crime fighting is over. there will be no more street stops, no more foot chases, no more clearing corners etc. Just as recent as 5 years ago we would have missions in place where all tac teams worked nights one weekend a month and the lockup would have to get filled. most nights during these "sweeps" which were just anything that moved went to jail for anything and everything would net between 70-100 or more heads in a single tour on nights.
HUH? didnt you ever watch cops???
1/27/2017 02:11:00 AM
Ummm, getting a blue card isn't exactly "hitting it hard", nubmnuts.
Lt. Wu is a good guy. He is worried about civilians taking over the evaluations that Sgts. currently do, thinking that low activity could lead to negative evaluation s, and what that could lead to. He tends to worry, but I don't believe he would hurt P.O.s and would help them if needed. I work in 020 on midnites, and though I don't have a lot of activity, I don't worry about it. I just do my job. I feel that's all we can do.
How about the LT on Midz in 014 who wants those who dont bring in activity while on a mission admonished on the supervisor's logs. What a little goof
[W]: Message received. I will Repent.
Might fine authors on SCC. Cry me a River,
Write me War and Peace, Stephen King Anthology,
Obama Secret Executive Orders x 8 Years.
Worked with him as a Sgt he was afraid of his own shadow, that's probably why he's in 020. Wasn't he also on CAPS? Never did a damn thing police wise when I worked with him.
Lt. W in 020 is not asking for anything more than for officers to do their jobs. Too many take advantage of the supervisors kindness and would rather complain and sleep through their shift rather than work. Their are some officers on mids in 020 that work their butts off and never complain. If you don't know Lyrics. Question then keep your mouths shut. He's a great supervisor who cares about his officers more than they know. Stop wining do the job and be grateful you work in 020 with Lt. W.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What will the troops in 020 midnights do about it?
1/26/2017 03:05:00 AM
We support our Lt on this one!
FYI, our FOP unit rep came out to speak to us at the roll calls behind closed doors without the white shirts regarding this issue specifically and to address any issues we may have. Not one person had any issues with the management on the 1st watch. I'm sure that we are never 100 % happy with anything at any given time but to make lies against anybody, even if it is a supervisor is out of line. Obviously there is someone on the watch that has a personal problem with the Lt and has made it be known. He had a problem with the previous Captain also!
This same officer has been a chronic complainer & whiner ever since he got here. He does nothing but complain!
While the FOP rep was speaking, this one officer got up, stated "this is all bullshit!" and left the roll call room without even hearing what the rep or other fellow officers had to say. We are all in this together...if there are any issues he should have stood by us!
We all knew that this is the jagoff that brought undue attention to the District, especially the 1st Watch. His lies against the Lt has put the whole District on the radar for inspectors!
Just the other night, an inspector was in 020 on the 3rd watch and nailed a bunch of coppers...
we haven't seen an inspector in ages before this. Hey jagoff, STFU!
This is the same jagbag that overcharges officers to do their taxes.
Also, this is the same jagoff that was accused of child abuse a few years ago for allegedly beating his kid.
Really???
Don't worry gang, stay strong...this jagoff will be going to MAIU soon...good riddance!!!!
Take your hairgel partners with you and don't let the door hit you on the way out!
What a douchebag!!!
Let's set the record straight once and for all.
The only reason someone put these lies on the blog against the Lt is because of this one POS officer who just wants to stay in the station all night and play on the computers (probably doing another officers taxes) and the Lt told him to go out onto the streets should any of us need a back-up.
I don't think that was unreasonable of the Lt.
I know that it is the 020th District and things are slow here, but hey...you'll never know when you need back-up & if he's in the station goofing off, one of us can get seriously hurt out there. We rely on each other to go home safely each night.
The lies against the Lt were totally not called for in this case.
This POS officer walked out of the roll call room when our FOP rep was addressing this matter to come to a resolution for us. None of us had any issues to complain about. Obviously, this POS had a personal axe to grind with the Lt.
There has never been any real issues with any supervisor...Sergeants or Lieutenants on any watch for that matter.
Officer "Z" needs to leave 020 already...can't wait until he goes to Major Accidents.
Buh Bye!!!
Hey Lt W, Tact's got your back on this!
Those douchbags that work your "06" cars on midnights were already banned form coming into our office because they can't be trusted! When was the last time those 3 clowns even made an arrest working "06"? This is not to be confused with your other "06"
car...the male/female partners...the female officer has bigger balls then all 3 of those assclowns combined!
The 3 of them are scared of their own shadows....and it's midnights and their shadows aren't even out!
Hey douchbags...stay the fuck out of the tact office...this is the "tact" office, not the "tax" office.
Go elsewhere to do your taxes...H & R Blockhead!!!
Nuff' said!
Hey 020 tact. Go get some more piss bums to feed your arrest quota.
Officer "Z" didn't write cap about the lt.
Someone is laying in the weeds on this one.
Whoever wanted to "set the record straight" - the management had their pow wow Saturday morning and that night at roll call the LT came into roll call and spouted all the crap the original poster mentioned with one exception - the LT staying true to company man protocol, passed the blame up to his superiors/city/unknown boogie man who are all out to punish us or civilianize our jobs if we don't start brining in MORE activity. He's pissed because he got called out for his bs and now wants to act like it never happened. Bottom line, he was wrong to do what he did and instead of being an adult and saying "I'm sorry, I fucked up" he's now in full retaliatory mode, insulating himself from the blue shirts. He is in general a nice guy and very diplomatic, however that's where it ends. He will not go above and beyond what is required by the book, but he expects you to go above and beyond answering your calls and instigating work. He alone created all of this unnecessary drama.
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