Wednesday, January 25, 2017

And Speaking of Rental Cars....

  • The city of Chicago cannot require car rental businesses located outside city limits to collect city taxes on rental cars leased by Chicago city residents, the Illinois Supreme Court has ruled, striking down as unconstitutional a city ordinance seeking to slap a tax on cars rented within three miles of Chicago city limits.

    On Jan. 20, the state Supreme Court overturned the decision of a state appeals court, which had declared the city had the power under the Illinois state constitution to demand the tax, even though the rental transactions took place entirely outside of Chicago city limits.

    The Supreme Court justices, however, said the tax represents an attempt to improperly stretch the city’s “extraterritorial” taxing power beyond the limits allowed under the state constitution’s language governing home rule cities.

    “… The conclusive presumption of taxability based on residency has nothing to do with use of the rental vehicles, as there is no evidence of where the vehicle was in fact driven,” the state Supreme Court justices wrote. “Absent an actual connection to Chicago, the City’s tax … amounts to a tax on transactions that take place wholly outside Chicago’s borders.”

    Justice Rita B. Garman authored the unanimous opinion.
Government overreach slapped back by the Illinois Supreme Court - it's like a miracle.

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42 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now let get rid of the rental tax when you rent items outside the city, but have Chicago address.

1/25/2017 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Taxes should be paid to the local/state government entity in which the item was purchased, including cars. You buy a car in Kenosha, Wi you pay Wisconsin taxes. Absolute overreach!

1/25/2017 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So how much does the city have to reimburse the rental companies and do the rental companies then have to reimburse the lessee? I'm thinking the tax involves more than a few dollars over the life time of the tax.

1/25/2017 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

140 Sgt's starting 06 February. Bet the house on it.

1/25/2017 12:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good, now explain why I have to pay city taxes when I buy a car no where near the city!!!

1/25/2017 01:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damn, there goes the plan to tax all the Sodas in Illinois to collect the Cook County soda tax!

1/25/2017 01:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How come the rental cars domiciled at O'Hare don't need City stickers?

1/25/2017 01:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dammit! There goes my latest franchise idea.

"Three and a Half Miles from Chicago Rent A Car"

1/25/2017 01:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wait until they find a way to access the In Car GPS, and charge anybody that even accidentally gets within a block of the Chicago City Limits.

Because, THAT MONEY BELONGS TO THEM!! The Politicians Deserve That Money! How else will the be able to keep their phony baloney jobs?

1/25/2017 01:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about buying cars out of the city?

1/25/2017 02:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love it when the courts kick Rahm in the nuts.

1/25/2017 03:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can this also apply to car sales outside of city limits?

Chicago is such a thieving city and I'm glad to see this ruling!

Now I would love to see President Trump bitch slap Rahm over this Santuary city crap!

Make America Great Again!

1/25/2017 04:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see a class action suit. Rental cars and car purchases.

1/25/2017 04:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I love it when the courts kick Rahm in the nuts." How do you know he was kicked in the nuts? You are making quite an assumption he had or has ever had nuts to kick. I have only seen this clown as a meely mouthed pandering goof with "chicago values."

1/25/2017 06:06:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

Justice Garman has just earned herself a night of free PBRs and Kesslers at Beatrice's courtesy of yours truly. I'm sure that she will find the conversation fascinating.

1/25/2017 06:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bought my wife a car in Kenosha and I had to pay a Cook County tax. I did live in Chicago at the time. I paid that tax at the time of purchase after being advised to do so by the dealer as he said Cook County would be relentless in obtaining that money. Cook County then tried to bill me again for the tax. The dealer sent them letters indicating I already paid it.

1/25/2017 06:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im waiting for the pop tax, ie we pay the county tax on pop even if we buy the pop in wisconsin.

1/25/2017 06:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Preckwinkle also wants stores out of Cook, but near the border, to charge her "sugar tax" to keep people from shopping outside Cook. The State is also proposing a sugar tax but so far it appears to be DOA. Stay tuned

1/25/2017 06:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
What about buying cars out of the city?

1/25/2017 02:43:00 AM
Great idea and out of crook county we should pay no county or city tax same as when you shopped outside no extra tax they squandered billions in the past say 15 years cell phones and cable tv exploded almost everyone has it look at your bill the taxes are phenomenal. I called Comcast yesterday to find out why my bills were increasing nice girl on phone went over bill the taxes did it she said "we have the highest taxes of any city in their huge network!" The question is where is all the money going? We live west end of 008 14th ward the streets are going to shit potholes everywhere, vehicles and homes broken into frequently hope Trump has his people marching into city hall with indictments aplenty! They are dragging ass confirming AG Jeff Sessions because they know President Trump was elected to do the job and will be sending him here first! Rahm has a pathetic press conference talking about Trump and saying nothing about the killings in chiraq sickening!

1/25/2017 06:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Premium healthcare for the maxed out!

I promise I'll leave ASAP!

1/25/2017 07:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But the State of Illinois requires that you pay taxes on any items purchased outside of Illinois but used in Illinois. There is a line in the Illinois tax return where you must list the amount spent outside the state and then calculate the taxes due. I spent 3 hrs filling out the form and calculating the taxes due. I ended up owing zero!

1/25/2017 07:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

How come the rental cars domiciled at O'Hare don't need City stickers?

1/25/2017 01:36:00 AM
The city made a back door deal they pay for a few in the fleet, wonder what alderthief they contribute to?

1/25/2017 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

What about buying cars out of the city?

1/25/2017 02:43:00 AM

Bingo!

Paying the "wheel tax," aka city sticker
is enough but because you're a Chicago AND Cook County
resident, you gotta pay a tax.

1/25/2017 09:24:00 AM  
Blogger William Lozanski said...

Thats why enterprise rent a car have 2 suburban offices close to midway,one in oak lawn and one in summit. They will pick u up or pay for your cab to get their and they avoid the airport rental tax which is outrageous

1/25/2017 09:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
140 Sgt's starting 06 February. Bet the house on it.

1/25/2017 12:56:00 AM

Close, it's actually going to be 125.

1/25/2017 09:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Call me Mr. Lips

I don't intend to rock the boat by writing this letter, but I do need to let people know that Mayor Rahm Emanuel is so fastuous—or, to be charitable, so irrationally wedded to outmoded memes—that he can't stop claiming that his opinions represent the opinions of the majority—or even a plurality. Alas, listing all of our nation's woes that are directly caused by him would take up far too much of this letter: the spread of Comstockism; a newfound interest by infantile mob bosses in overthrowing western civilization through the destruction of its four pillars—family, nation, religion, and democracy—and the increasing number of people who believe that lying is morally justifiable as long as it's referred to as “strategic deception”; and so forth. Hence, to keep this letter to the point, I will limit its focus to a discussion of how what I find frightening is that some academics actually believe Mayor Emanuel's line that he is a voice of probity. In this case, “academics” refers to a stratum of the residual intelligentsia surviving the recession of its demotic base, not to those seekers of truth who understand that I'm by no means the first person to expose Mayor Emanuel as an impertinent knucklehead. However, it's still somewhat rare for anyone to state publicly that it is mathematically provable that he and other voices of paternalism have joined in a chorus singing the praises of censoring by caricature and preempting discussion by stereotype. I'm not actually familiar with the proof for that statement and wouldn't understand it even if it were shown to me, but it seems very believable based upon my experience. What's also quite believable is that I want to shout back at Mayor Emanuel's propaganda. But first, let me pose an abstract question. Do Mayor Emanuel's goons actually enjoy the distinction of being the most dodgy blowhards on the planet? Perhaps the answer is best saved for another letter. Let me simply note that Mayor Emanuel has been using all sorts of jiggery-pokery to convince people that solipsism and ultraism are identical concepts. That worldview may be appealing, at least to deluded prigs, but it severely limits our national conversation on critical policy issues. Perhaps more painfully, Mayor Emanuel deceptively claims that he's listening to our suggestions. The reality, however, is that he's thumbing the scales towards his own callow Ponzi schemes even though he knows that the last time I heard him ramble on in his characteristically bibulous blather he said something about wanting to glorify tactless, sinful slangwhangers. I feel sorry for the human race when I hear stuff like that.

Mayor Emanuel is the type of person who will trump up any lie for the occasion, and the more of a thumper it is, the better he likes it. Forgive me, dear reader, but I must be so tactless as to remind you that Mayor Emanuel keeps saying that rapacious flakes have dramatically lower incidences of cancer, heart attacks, heart disease, and many other illnesses than the rest of us. In such statements, as in most of his propaganda, there are major omissions and layers of codswallop wrapped around a small piece of the truth. The real story is that we must tell the truth no matter who doesn't like it. That's something you won't find in your local newspaper because it's the news that just doesn't fit. He was once confronted by someone who wanted to begin a course of careful, planned, and coordinated action. He responded by creating a regime of lubricious Marxism.

Mayor Emanuel's love affair with elitism is so mindless that it knows no bounds. Don't make the mistake of thinking otherwise. Mayor Emanuel does, and that's why his incomprehensible campaigns of terror convert once-great academic institutions into worthless diploma mills. News of this deviousness must spread like wildfire if we are ever to speak up and speak out against him. In closing, learning the truth can be a painful experience, especially for Mayor Rahm Emanuel.

1/25/2017 09:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now move on to the tax added for buying a car with a Chicago address.

1/25/2017 09:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll continue to preach for citizens of Chicago to send a strong message to our politicians that they cannot tax us to death due to their fiscal irresponsibility. If you live on the outskirts of the city go into the suburb and outside of cook county to make all your purchases, the tax savings is an eye opener.

1/25/2017 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is Rahm required to refund the taxes that were illegally collected?

1/25/2017 10:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now how about over turning having to pay cook county taxes on vehicles purchased outside of cook county.

1/25/2017 11:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is the Chicago auto sales tax on cars purchased outside of Chicago next?

1/25/2017 11:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) want to leave are you a women or minority diversity is the answer to the crime problems:

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/01/25/dallas-pd-comes-to-recruit-in-chicago/


/sarcasm

1/25/2017 12:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it cynical to think that some downstate elected official has an interest in several car rental entities near the airports?
Rental lots around the outskirts of Ohare have to be rejoicing.
Rahm will now probably just overtax their courtesy buses coming and going on airport property, such as but not limited to;
special use permits, wheel-axle tax, special entrance lane fee, sanitation inspection fee, per passenger assessments, city chauffeur licensing, sun visor tax, hubcap fee, window washing fee, crime reduction levy, early education and school lunch supplement tax...

1/25/2017 12:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sgts chevrons news letter stated 99 sgts short at time of writing. i would assume more now with jan retirements. then add the 52 sgts that are in lt school. new budgeted strength is 1219 written in news letter. they will need to make over 150. probably closer to 160 to reach 1219.

1/25/2017 02:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like the City will be cutting a few refund checks.

1/25/2017 03:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has anyone bought a used car recently ?
We bought a beater for the kid to learn with.
There is a state tax, county tax, and a city tax.
You are looking at $600 bucks in taxes and fees when
picking up a $1500 car for the kid.
This is f-cking ridiculous !!!!

Now a soda pop tax !!!!!!!

1/25/2017 04:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Preckwinkle also wants stores out of Cook, but near the border, to charge her "sugar tax" to keep people from shopping outside Cook. The State is also proposing a sugar tax but so far it appears to be DOA. Stay tuned

1/25/2017 06:29:00 AM
DuPage County a mere 20- 25 minutes from west 08 . PRICKwrinkle's Crook County soda/sugar/diet tax covers just about everything except water

Live in Chicago? each plastic bag will be taxed at 7 cents per bag starting next Wednesday.
Counted the plastic bags from shopping in Burbank today ----16 plastic bags ----
LoL rahmbo

1/25/2017 05:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said

Call me Mr Lips

I don't intend to rock the boat by writing this letter, but I do need to let people know that Mayor Rahm Emanuel is so fastuous—or, to be charitable, so irrationally wedded to outmoded memes—that he can't stop claiming that his opinions represent the opinions of the majority—or even a plurality........ (and on and on and on.....)

----------------

(Yawn...)
It took about three more sentences from this Mr Lips rant to put me to sleep!


1/25/2017 06:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm and Co was basically directed by the court as to how to pass an ordinance that will pass that court's muster.

"there is no evidence of where the vehicle was in fact driven"

And right there it is. Pass a ordinance (or even a state law) that says all rental cars must have GPS logs of when and where they were driven and bada bing, there exists that "evidence" the court said wasn't there.


Why do even courts have to be so blatantly corrupt. For cripes sakes. No, Chicago, you don't get to tax things outside the City, so stop being so stupid as to claim you do. Instead of trying to get every penny from anyone every day, how about trying to mind better the ones you already get?

1/25/2017 09:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Preckwinkle also wants stores out of Cook, but near the border, to charge her "sugar tax" to keep people from shopping outside Cook. The State is also proposing a sugar tax but so far it appears to be DOA. Stay tuned

1/25/2017 06:29:00 AM
DuPage County a mere 20- 25 minutes from west 08 . PRICKwrinkle's Crook County soda/sugar/diet tax covers just about everything except water

Live in Chicago? each plastic bag will be taxed at 7 cents per bag starting next Wednesday.
Counted the plastic bags from shopping in Burbank today ----16 plastic bags ----
LoL rahmbo

1/25/2017 05:53:00 PM

You do know people on the SNAP program do not have to pay the cook county "Sugar tax". another way to stick it to those who work for a living.

1/25/2017 10:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It won't take long before the SNAP users will use their benefit limits to buy all pop, and then sell it on the street corners. A single can of pop will be taxed twelve cents more. A two liter bottle will go up over sixty cents. Good luck trying to buy a value meal for lunch at McDonalds. Thanks Democrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1/26/2017 08:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said:

Why do even courts have to be so blatantly corrupt. For cripes sakes. No, Chicago, you don't get to tax things outside the City, so stop being so stupid as to claim you do. Instead of trying to get every penny from anyone every day, how about trying to mind better the ones you already get?

1/25/2017 09:46:00 PM

What unwashed heathen dare speaketh this foul blasphemy against the Chicago way? Repent of your heresy . . . it's for the children!

1/26/2017 01:01:00 PM  

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