Rental Cars?
What happened to the 400 cars Dean negotiated?
- Area north will be using enterprise Rent-A-Car. They are taking the fusions for the watch. How is that going to work driving a rental car with no lights or sirens or government plates on the west side. Wasn't a fusion shot at a couple months ago? The gang bangers didn't think it was the police driving because the car didn't have a front plate. The city can't buy new cars but how much is it going to cost for a short lease/ long rental?
Are these cars for the D-unit? Bosses? Teams? The watch?
No sirens or lightbars or wigwags? No cages? No GPS?
No :::gasp::: cameras????
No sirens or lightbars or wigwags? No cages? No GPS?
No :::gasp::: cameras????
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
81 Comments:
No gps???? Hmmmmmm, I love the idea so far.
Ford Fusion is too small for the watch / patrol duty.
Insanity
Same in Area 2. They pulled all crown vics and sent them to patrol in exchange for Enterprise RAC. Let's see, the VC. Lieutenant took the suburban, the XO scooped up the Charger and the Dodge Journeys replaced the Crown Vic's. No lights, no sirens, no M plates. Also, no "R" service. If u break down you call Enterprise roadside assistance. Who thinks of this shit? I bet this came from some meritorious moron. Can't wait to retire and get out of this shithole.
They chose Enterprise because they bring the car to you.
Cuts down on citizens flagging down unmarks.
The city must be behind on bills payable to the Grand Ave dealerships in Bensenville and had their account cut off.
The rental agreement on one car costs the city over 1000 per month. That's not including "Parking lot damage".
DaleyVanecko Rental Car Inc.
Anybody know who it was that put that on the negotiation table anyway?
At least it isn't Winter. Small cars like that could get stuck in a snowstorm.
Imagine an FTO with three noobs? It would look like a clown car as they all try to unfold themselves as they get out of the car.
Dean, Dean, Dean...sorry to say I gave you a chance but you've done more harm than good.
Heard in 015 that the supervisors cars were going to be turned over to the watch to alleviate the shortage of cars. Interesting that there really isn't a shortage, just that the millenials need a new car with a pdt everyday and can't be bothered with a crown vic or tahoe. These bed wetters don't even know what a pool car is. No word on what cars the supervisors will be getting. But putting them in rent a cars with no emergency equipment or markings is dangerous, especially in neighborhoods with a high percentage of honor roll students and aspiring "fill in the blanks". Would love to know who is the merit hack behind this one if true. Oh yeah, any member of the exempt staff.
No R- Service.
Good luck on 1st watch if the car goes down for something.
The 3 exceptions to the 2 plate rule per the MCC are motorcycles, semi tractors, and trailers. If the cars have no front plate parkers should be issued.
This right here is a text book example of how useless the FOP is. What happened to those 400 cars? Ya know, the ones these morons put into the contract? It's bad enough the disciplinary records get blown off. Now the cars? Stripped Officer's without as much as due process, etc. At what point does someone finally speak up, call the FOP completely useless and go another route??
It's all the Areas guy! I drove a Jeep Cherokee yesterday for fuck sakes. We are doomed and our union officials blow balls
How many of these cars are just going to disappear?
How many are just going to be stolen out of the police parking lots? How do you prove who took it?
How many officers will be blamed for the loss, because they were simply the last ones in it?
How connected is that rental car franchise?
Now for the important question,
Is the rental car business located within three miles of the Chicago City Line?
Will the Chicago Police Department pay all the city taxes?
SCC - your wigwags remark gave me a chuckle, haven't heard that term in years. Remember the barely audible sirens on the tact cars, which also was equipped with only wigwags? How more accidents didn't occur with only front flashing headlights as a visual warning could only be due to St. Jude.
Seriously, the rentals should go to administrative riff raff like "Cmdr" Robinson or Weezee or the numerous gold stars who don't do policework. They could always buy a "kojak light" from Gall's on their own dime if they be's in a hurry.
Retired .38 spl +P
Two Words:
"Safety Grievance"
Fill it out now detectives:
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5516f090e4b01b711314608f/t/55d0fcece4b01a825f215f8d/1439759596517/safety_complaint.pdf
The Fusions are dangerous, period.
My partner and I had an incident driving down the street where the "community" mistook us for rivals- could have been really bad. And our car had the new MP.plates. I know of a handful of incidents where coppers were almost involved in some reeeeal hairy situations due to those stupid fusions.
Most of these incidents I am aware of I nvolve the "community" trying to protect its block from rivals, and seeing an unknown car that doesn't look like a police car, creeping up slowly and stopping next to a group of people on the corner is a recipe for disaster.
That's what happens when you put people who have never been the police in charge of things like this.
Better buy the insurance package...
Are these cars rented outside city limits by a connected outfit?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The 3 exceptions to the 2 plate rule per the MCC are motorcycles, semi tractors, and trailers. If the cars have no front plate parkers should be issued.
1/25/2017 01:38:00 AM
Before you issue that ticket you better make darn sure the license plate on the vehicle IS actually from a 2 plate state.
If you don't know for a fact, leave your Parker book next to your dvds.
Hell its better then walking the city don't pay the bills soon you will be walking
Maybe you can get those "Kojak" lights with the magnets we used at Safe City a few years ago. They were really cook. Hit it Crockah!
Anonymous said...
The Fusions are dangerous, period.
My partner and I had an incident driving down the street where the "community" mistook us for rivals- could have been really bad. And our car had the new MP.plates. I know of a handful of incidents where coppers were almost involved in some reeeeal hairy situations due to those stupid fusions.
Most of these incidents I am aware of I nvolve the "community" trying to protect its block from rivals, and seeing an unknown car that doesn't look like a police car, creeping up slowly and stopping next to a group of people on the corner is a recipe for disaster.
That's what happens when you put people who have never been the police in charge of things like this.
1/25/2017 04:00:00 AM
Hard charger, if youre concerned so much lay off the "police work". dont go creeping with your lights out talking to people. Its safer for you and your partner to stay on main streets and drive in circles for the tour, works for me.
How about the streets and sans trucks with Michigan plates (I know not police but ridiculous) enterprise is ripping the city off who is getting the kickbacks? Enterprise has had an open contract with iad for years iAd (coppers/agents better pay and pension scale) can take different cars daily if they desire. Maybe coppers can play "Starsky and Hutch" put a red or blue light on the roof have the passenger hang out the window make siren noises. What's going to happen if a copper is calling for help and as we protect blue race to a call and have an accident or as in other posts copper gets shot at or God forbidden killed or injured? Rahm and his assholes have put us further in the hole and President Trump is acting on this sanctuary cities bullshit today Chicago will lose minimum of 1.5 Billion that's a lot so cash as rahm uses scare taxpayers money to protect the illegal invaders criminals he is bankrupting this city, people are being shot and murdered everyday rahm and his crew is the disease and President Trump is the cure, the medicine will be strong but policing will be better as the swamp is finally drained God bless this city and police everywhere!!
Did anyone keep count of these new cars we were suppose to get in our contract even?
This is a No Brainer! No Emergency Equipment = No Emergency Response! Unfortunately, that may apply to 10-1 calls, but if you have no Emergency Equipment, such as siren or lights, how can you justify expecting regular drivers to know you are the Police responding to an emergency? This is Desperate Planning by a Desperate or Incompetent Leadership at the highest levels of the Chicago Police Department and City Hall. And make no mistake about it, there is a Political Hack Boss, with a Gold Star, waiting for a Gold Star pension behind this. Personal Injury Parasite lawyers must be salivating over this Move. Chicago Values. Baby"G"
What next? Uber? I'd like to laugh but I bet that some merit hack probably suggested using Uber. This once great Police department has become the laughing stock of the policing word.
Same in 007. Supervisor cars to the watch, d unit cars for the supervisors to use. Also no more holster repairs for tasers brought to the academy because they don't have any more parts. So less and less tasers on the street. This organization has to be the most poorly run department in the country. We are supposed to implement the DOJ recommendations but we can't even get enough cars or equipment repair when needed. Can't wait for the first police shooting when there is no video or audio because of the borrowed car that is being used and when questioned why they didn't take him the answer is because we don't have enough operational ones at this time. What a joke.
Remember in the late 80's. Leroy Martin had all the sgts driving unmarked corwn vics with a light bar slapped on top. We called them Leroy Limos.
When is the last time you remember a detective drinking fast enough to warrant using wig wags anyway?
At least they are newer low milage vehicles. So what if it takes you an hour to get to the scene of a shooting. Hopefully all the witnesses are gone upon arrival. Wait until the tickets start piling up because there's no m plates on the vehicles. Better start paying those meters.
The FOP Lodge 7 is a joke, what was the city going to do, not purchase any more rolling stock if the rank and file didn't agree to this in your contract?
They're the laughing stock of law enforcement representation. And the membership is just as bad, given enough back pay you'll agree to anything.
Get your shit together people
Why not equip them like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF5FyhCg2uk
But of course not, the explorer factory is in Chicago have a friend at ford told me the city was not paying the bills thus no more vehicles will be shipped typical! But yet the mayor has millions to shield the illegal criminals,and millions to freely give away in settlements from thugs and illegals that claim police did wrong! But then again with so much fixed here a trial would be a loss also, what aldermen and crook county pols get the kickbacks? How much?
President trump is set to take action on sanctuary cities as early as today and we will lose billions, great job also dumbass elected not attending inauguration which is your job, your paid to represent us properly, don't think Trump will forget it! Lots of things panned in Chicago to bring "law and order" back best thing rahm would be your and toni and tom team resignations it is in the best interests of the taxpayers admit failure and move on, maybe your movie agent brother could get you a job!
3 pots of money money stolen from us rahms "slush fund", money hidden from us chicago is not broke:
http://wgntv.com/2016/09/13/midday-fix-chicago-is-not-broke-editor-tom-tresser/
Dean are you paying attention? Contract! restore the retirees health care look here! Sent to the White House we need a forensic audit immediately!
For many years the CPD was in violation of federal laws regarding emergency equipment on unmarked cars, regarding strobe light placement and siren de ibels, it took a guy at Fleet who is an expert on vehicles and a Sergeant from the Special Vehicle Team who was in charge of the Command Vans and Swat vehicles to bring the cars up to standards, now that he us retired they are slipping back. Many years back they used unmarked rental cars with stick on placards with no lights or sirens.
These cars are subject to parking tickets, speeding and red light tickets too. The City will not "Non Suit" any tickets that you rack up. Don't believe me ask, ask anyone in OCD with a covert car...and those are registered as City cars.
01:50 AM poses a really good question. Is the city, who insists on making everyone even REMOTELY close to the city pay taxes on anything, actually paying taxes that they demand? How could we find out where they rented from?
You know how to take the reservation....
You just don't know how to hold the reservation.
And really that's the most important part...
Holding the reservation
Anybody can take a reservation
I know how to take a reservation
I don't think you do...if you did I'd have a car
Why are cars the subject of FOP negotiations? If the city doesn't want to provide cars, the Officers can just hang around the station all day. Maybe Dean Angelo should stop playing the city's game and take care of the membership like he was elected to do. Learn how to play hardball because that is what the city is doing.
Chicago is fucked up broke ,more Rahmicides ? shootings to hit 1,000 in 2017? No money for new Police patrol vehicles ? LOL
Don't underestimate the kneecap job being done on Ramhbo, by President Trump. Chicago will benefit, After Trump is done with Emanuel ,Da mayor will not run in 2019
The 3 exceptions to the 2 plate rule per the MCC are motorcycles, semi tractors, and trailers. If the cars have no front plate parkers should be issued.
+++++
Dumbfuck, many rental cars have out of state plates. Out of state plates follow home rules. Not all states require two plates. Not all cops say bright shit, right? You almost sound smart referencing MCC though. Nice try, come again. FTO P?
With the mayor's connections, be happy you're not having to Uber everywhere.
Ask the 2 Area central dics who almost got lit up by a latin king at 30th n homan lat year. They even had M plates on their fusion.
Shortage of cars? I see police cars parked all over the Mt Greenwood neighborhood. Looks to me like every boss has a new sled...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Heard in 015 that the supervisors cars were going to be turned over to the watch to alleviate the shortage of cars. Interesting that there really isn't a shortage, just that the millenials need a new car with a pdt everyday and can't be bothered with a crown vic or tahoe. These bed wetters don't even know what a pool car is. No word on what cars the supervisors will be getting. But putting them in rent a cars with no emergency equipment or markings is dangerous, especially in neighborhoods with a high percentage of honor roll students and aspiring "fill in the blanks". Would love to know who is the merit hack behind this one if true. Oh yeah, any member of the exempt staff.
1/25/2017 01:16:00 AM
Oh cry me a river! Your take home car won't have lights or sirens while it sits in the parking lot and you sit behind the desk. You needs lights, sirens,pdt? Hop in with a Sgt or P.O. I think I know who one merit hack is. God forbid a patrolmen gets working equipment.
Someone does not know what they are doing. There are police cars available at state bid prices. Ald Burke sponsored a bill many years ago allowing the city to use state purchased prices to buy cars. At the time, it saved the city tons of cash.
Also, wasn't Enterprise involved in some scandal years ago about the city leasing cars????
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Same in Area 2. They pulled all crown vics and sent them to patrol in exchange for Enterprise RAC. Let's see, the VC. Lieutenant took the suburban, the XO scooped up the Charger and the Dodge Journeys replaced the Crown Vic's. No lights, no sirens, no M plates. Also, no "R" service. If u break down you call Enterprise roadside assistance. Who thinks of this shit? I bet this came from some meritorious moron. Can't wait to retire and get out of this shithole.
1/25/2017 12:15:00 AM
Little Eddie W ain't taken the back seat to nobody
I would love to see how much the City is charged for renting each car. You know its higher than the normal rate due to it being the city and they are being used for Police purposes. But no money to pay for retirees healthcare.
BTW those 400 cars the union negotiated for you were not "CARS". They were "vehicles". Including hundreds of bicycles with police lights and stickers.
Just like the "1,000" police officers Rambo said he was going to put on the street.
Not hire 1,000 new officers. Take 1,000 officers from saturation units which were already on the street.
Same with the recent hires of Lieutenants, Sergeants and Training Officers. Not new hires.
Not a one is a new hire. In fact taking more police off the streets.
In the late 80's the city was short of marked cars. They took unmarked cars and slapped an old mars light bar on top. People thought the cars were from some security firm. The city that works.......
More wasted money where are the new cars rahm? Did you pay the bills as you keep incurring billions in new debt you really should knock off the nonsense and request President Trump beside help putting thugs and illegal invaders in prison, ask for a forensic audit asap!
Look over here Arne Duncan billions in federal money 7 billion wasted no impact just like all the taxpayers money pissed away in Chicago the apple doesn't fall far from the tree and he is back in Chiraq:
Education Department report finds billions spent under Obama had 'no impact' on achievement
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/25/education-department-report-finds-billions-spent-under-obama-had-no-impact-on-achievement.html
No life insurance if you are killed in a no-marked car and the banger says he didn't know you were the police.
I'm glad I retired
Inmates running the Asylum, as usual, in Communistocrat Chicago.
All talk - No action, what else is new.
The white short buses are also leases that don't get much use either.
Many don't realize that the Area has some shitboxes that are equal to the District.
Still have to down the hybrid for special service, no pools.
And yessir there is a pecking order.
The Area was always short decent cars, the rental/lease are a good thing...if you can get the keys to either one.
I'm surprised A/C didn't resort to Uber yet.
A lease vehicle is short term obligation or a long term income source.
For someone to authorize those leases, it wasn't in the interest for the Det.
Enterprise has at least 7 car rental outlets within 3 miles of Ohare.
Who's the Lobbyist that got the City tax thrown out and the Lease Agreement?
Fop elections coming, sure Deano has answers to all our questions đź’©
I assure you somebody, who somebody sent, is getting their palms greased.
But Rahm can no longer afford to contribute to our retirees healthcare.
In a reaaaaly hairy situation because you were in a fusion AND YOU ARE THE POLICE ! Maybe you should get your job back at Starbucks
And you guys are a number of vehicles as agreed to in the contract.
Page 143 says, and I quote: "The city has represented to the lodge it's intention to purchase 400 vehicles for the police department before the close of 2014 and has advised the lodge of its intention to purchase, on average, 200 patrol division vehicles each year during the term of this agreement, beginning in 2015. During the first quarter of each calendar year beginning in 2015, the committee shall meet in the city she'll share with the lodge appointed committee members it's progress in attaining this goal. In any year where the city does not reach this goal, upon request the city appointed members shall meet with the union appointed members to discuss the reason(s) for not attaining the goal".
Key word here: "Intention". The city actually "intended" to buy a lot more than 400 cars. Contract states a total of 1000 vehicles. How many did they actually buy? And of those, how many actually made it to patrol and units that actually need them as opposed to Bossholes and the special children.
And I'm curious… Did the lodge and the city meet during the first quarter of 2015 or 2016 to discuss the "progress in attaining this goal"? Have they yet or will they meet for 2017?
I was in utter amazement when this was proposed at all the fucking morons jumping all over it as a reason to vote yes for the contract. I wonder what it will be this time that they dangle over your head to make you idiots bite. None of this would've been an issue had you entitled assholes listened to the old timers and downed your vehicles for every little fucking thing that made it unsafe to drive.
Wont be long before a disaster. Roll up on the animals in a rentacar, under cover, and see if the animals dont start firing. BAD BAD BAD idea.
Ask the 2 Area central dics who almost got lit up by a latin king at 30th n homan lat year. They even had M plates on their fusion.
1/25/2017 10:08:00 AM
True Story. Had 2 pistols. This story should have been made better known to the officers. Even if he was drunk.
Hard charger, if youre concerned so much lay off the "police work". dont go creeping with your lights out talking to people. Its safer for you and your partner to stay on main streets and drive in circles for the tour, works for me.
1/25/2017 06:32:00 AM
Does that main street include Pulaski and Wilcox or 65th and King?
Fuck off.
When is the last time you remember a detective drinking fast enough to warrant using wig wags anyway?
1/25/2017 07:16:00 AM
I know plenty of detectives who drink fast and wear wigs!
What about ZIP cars they come with free gas and insurance, it beets waiting on the UBER.....
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Same in Area 2. They pulled all crown vics and sent them to patrol in exchange for Enterprise RAC. Let's see, the VC. Lieutenant took the suburban, the XO scooped up the Charger and the Dodge Journeys replaced the Crown Vic's. No lights, no sirens, no M plates. Also, no "R" service. If u break down you call Enterprise roadside assistance. Who thinks of this shit? I bet this came from some meritorious moron. Can't wait to retire and get out of this shithole.
1/25/2017 12:15:00 AM
You should see the outrageous rate that are paying. It is insane!!
Waste of money. Purchase some dam cars it is in your operating budget. The stupidity never ends!
That's not all. New order coming out will state divvy bikes will be utilized for bike patrol in summer
It seems to me that Rahm and his balls are doing this on purpose to "suffice" the cars in the contract.
This is thumb on Rahm's nose and a neener neener neener to all cops in Chicago.
And unions big whigs just sit and watch it all happen (their stock in the rental car company doing quite well tyvm)
We are like comic book coppers with all the bullshit restrictions we need cars like this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AX8Zp-Z1jgs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sBe3QzVW5_8
And the undercover costumes also! On another subject watched the interview tonight about the great President Trump at 2100 hrs he talked about Chicago shootings rahm it's a warning correct it or basically your fired!
(OT) rahm is this clear enough "if you defy laws of this country with sanctuary cities you will get no money"
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/25/priebus-on-sanctuary-cities-if-defy-laws-this-country-shouldnt-receive-federal-taxpayer-dollars.html
What kind is special asshole ruins this once great city? Cannot wait until the pathetic dumbocrats confirm Jeff Sessions he will be here with operation "firestorm" keep challenging the President keep dancing on the land mines elected Trump doesn't tolerate lies and false courage!
The D unit lost cars to ET's because the department took their cars for VRI, then the D unit lost more cars for summer mobile and were promised their return after summer. Summer ended and we never got our cars back, now they are taking are remaining crown Vic's and Chevy impalas. This is beyond fucking ridiculous!!! You have 5 detectives in a district and 2 cars to use for call outs, investigations, court, etc... This department / city is a joke
This foolishness is reason enough, to vote Deano and his entire crew out of office.
Pretty soon we'll be using Uber cars at work....Rahm's brother owns a big chunk of that.
Anonymous said...
Remember in the late 80's. Leroy Martin had all the sgts driving unmarked corwn vics with a light bar slapped on top. We called them Leroy Limos.
1/25/2017 07:14:00 AM
They were box Chevys. They went to the tact teams after the gumballs were taken off.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Remember in the late 80's. Leroy Martin had all the sgts driving unmarked corwn vics with a light bar slapped on top. We called them Leroy Limos.
1/25/2017 07:14:00 AM
They were box Chevys. They went to the tact teams after the gumballs were taken off.
1/26/2017 03:37:00 PM
First poster is right, we had Crown Vics in the late 80s. Box Chevys landed about 90-91 if memory serves me correctly. Them bastards were awesome after driving the CVs. LT1 that was used in Vettes, ass end would break loose with a hearty chip from 1-2 and 2-3. 12 bolt posi with a respectable 3.42 gear got the job done. And flip over that air cleaner lid to make it sound a little more gnarly. Heavy Duty EVERYTHING mad those cars a lot of fun to drive. Hell, I'd buy one restored to those specs today for a daily driver. The BCP aptly described the rear end of that car "dancing down the street" as the tires hunted for traction. Ahhh, good times.
IFIYGD said...
~Snip~
First poster is right, we had Crown Vics in the late 80s. Box Chevys landed about 90-91 if memory serves me correctly. Them bastards were awesome after driving the CVs. LT1 that was used in Vettes, ass end would break loose with a hearty chip from 1-2 and 2-3. 12 bolt posi with a respectable 3.42 gear got the job done. And flip over that air cleaner lid to make it sound a little more gnarly. Heavy Duty EVERYTHING mad those cars a lot of fun to drive. Hell, I'd buy one restored to those specs today for a daily driver. The BCP aptly described the rear end of that car "dancing down the street" as the tires hunted for traction. Ahhh, good times.
1/26/2017 09:44:00 PM
WHOOO!
We would buy a decent '88-'90 9c1 one in a heartbeat.
A '94-'96 even faster still.
The 1990 9c1 Caprice was KING...
First year of "Throttle-Body Injection"
in the 350 Police Package.
This car was more about ruggedness than anything.
If you're looking for top end, look elsewhere,
But it did pack a considerable punch out of the hole
with the 3.42 gear-set and accelerated hard to 100mph
or so with a top end of 120 to 125 or so.
Sufficient for a single exhaust municipal package.
Very compliant steering box which made those brutes
pretty agile with a tight turn radius.
Essentially a heavier gauge Chevy body on a
GMC 1500 frame and a truck 350 which is why
those cars could take such a beating and still run.
The only cars tougher and stronger were the
Plymouths and Dodges of the 60's.
The best cars CPD never had were the '94-'96
Caprices with detuned 5.7 liter (350 c.i.)
Corvette engines and iron heads
rated at 260hp. (more like 275)
(one of our elder subject matter experts emeriti
said there was no way in hell the city was going
to purchase those fire-breathing monsters so they
bought a shit ton of the 255 c.i. 200 hp taxicabs)
CTA Special had those cars and it was a hoot...
"Why ya need a rocket to run down a bus?"
Top end was drag limited but given enough road
they could go over 140. A CHP unit ran out to
an indicated 158.
"Lincoln 7xx?
Bus alarm standing southbound, 125000 South Michigan."
"Squad... Nobody in 005 for that? We're just leaving
the Kraft Building..."
"Lincoln 7xx, it's yours, no cars in 005 available."
Well... It was almost midnight on a week-night so
away on the Ryan we went.
136 with a light-bar and it had plenty more.
Of course the bus was gone...
Good Times.
Hold on...
Mistuh Bus Driver just flashed his lights.
>SCREEEEE!<
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