Another Asshat Heard From
Mark Brown, part of the media cabal that has spouses working for Tommy Dart in exchange for friendly, ball-washing newspaper/television coverage, has an opinion on the upcoming Contract - but then again, opinions are like assholes:
- A coalition of groups concerned with police accountability are teaming with the City Council’s Black Caucus to pressure Mayor Rahm Emanuel to publicly endorse specific changes in police union contracts to make it easier to investigate officers.
The Coalition for Accountability in Police Contracts — which includes ACLU of Illinois and the Better Government Association among others — has drawn up a list of 14 recommendations it wants to see recognized in new police contracts.
These include everything from removing the requirement that citizens sign sworn affidavits when making complaints against police officers to removing restrictions on the use of past disciplinary records in the investigation of current complaints.
Well first of all, the Sworn Affidavit provision is a State Law, and not subject to negotiations.
Second, this is part of a concerted effort to deny Police Officers their Constitutional Protections. pfather pfelcher is another portion of this effort, the ACLU and assorted other bad actors, too. You are to be presumed guilty without being able to question witnesses, without being able to view any evidence, and soon to be without the benefit of counsel.
You think we're joking? Check out the part of the proposal where you aren't even allowed to view video of an incident that may exist before giving a statement. You are expected to relate verbatim what may be the most stressful incident of your life, in under 24-hours, without the benefit of a video you yourself may have recorded. A video that we've seen time-and-again, sees only what it's pointed at and not what you may see peripherally by merely turning your head 20, 30, 45 degrees left or right.
And when you deviate in the slightest from what an armchair quarterback determines to be the politically correct actions of the day, made in the air-conditioned comfort of an easy chair, with water and snacks and the REWIND button handily at their side, you will be crucified in the name of political expediency, jobless, pension-less, un-hireable, and god forbid, imprisoned.
Whoever gets elected next month ought to seriously consider forgoing any sort of negotiations with the City for the foreseeable future. There is no way that the FOP (or the PBPA) can or should consider the City as negotiating in good faith. It just isn't possible in this atmosphere. Figure out something else - perhaps the National Lodge to come in and run things on the Contract end.
Second, this is part of a concerted effort to deny Police Officers their Constitutional Protections. pfather pfelcher is another portion of this effort, the ACLU and assorted other bad actors, too. You are to be presumed guilty without being able to question witnesses, without being able to view any evidence, and soon to be without the benefit of counsel.
You think we're joking? Check out the part of the proposal where you aren't even allowed to view video of an incident that may exist before giving a statement. You are expected to relate verbatim what may be the most stressful incident of your life, in under 24-hours, without the benefit of a video you yourself may have recorded. A video that we've seen time-and-again, sees only what it's pointed at and not what you may see peripherally by merely turning your head 20, 30, 45 degrees left or right.
And when you deviate in the slightest from what an armchair quarterback determines to be the politically correct actions of the day, made in the air-conditioned comfort of an easy chair, with water and snacks and the REWIND button handily at their side, you will be crucified in the name of political expediency, jobless, pension-less, un-hireable, and god forbid, imprisoned.
Whoever gets elected next month ought to seriously consider forgoing any sort of negotiations with the City for the foreseeable future. There is no way that the FOP (or the PBPA) can or should consider the City as negotiating in good faith. It just isn't possible in this atmosphere. Figure out something else - perhaps the National Lodge to come in and run things on the Contract end.
Labels: contract stuff, dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
94 Comments:
Is there an option to go straight to arbitration?
ALL ACTIVE MEMBERS PLEASE VOTE
Doesn't matter for who just please VOTE.
Anything on the scene is evidence, and can and should be examined byvtge involved officer...shell casings, video evidence, etc. It's like any incident. Any video is part and parcel of the incident...viewing the video does not change what happened...
How do we get these spineless FOP presidents to file a lawsuit for RESIDENCY???!!! Just like every other city in AMERICA DID & WON!
Mark Brown reminds me of a 60's radical....
I truly don't have any faith in the FOP. Just ask officers who are getting screwed this minute. Election time for FOP and all I've seen is pointing fingers at other candidates and lying to officers at roll calls while campaigning. STAY FETAL AND SAFE.
To all believing they have some way of resolving libtardness stupidity:
Get out. Now.
Lieutenant General Sense , Commanding.
Tom Dart is personally responsible for the death of two citizens murdered by criminal illegals aliens he refused to turn over to ICE, One was a 16 yr old girl. That was congressional testimony by Loretta lynch last year reported in Washington Times. Of course, the Chicago media didn't even report it. Now Dart is grandstanding in the Tribune he will not turn over criminal illegals to ICE under Trumps reign. Dart has to be the worst law official in the nation. How does he not even care that people were actually killed cause of his policies.
Is John Kass still taking orders from Ed Burke to lay off Dart? Dart is now publically giving the middle finger to ICE and the Feds. Don't worry John, your old neighbor uncle Eddie wont be angry if you report the truth on TV Tommy.
I wonder how many labor contracts these "experts" have negotiated in the past??
Sadly Rahm is a big enough asshole to give all these idiots and haters a seat at the negotiating table.
How come "the community" etc. are only pissed off about our contractual protections?
The Feds have even more protections for them but nobody is up in arms about that.
When I got hired, the contract was in arrears more than 3 years. O have no Problem waiting.
Unfortunately President Trump's not able to affect the continued assault on police officers by LOCAL entities. My cousin wanted to take the entrance exam for this organization. How sad that I had to tell him to stay far away. We all know the eventual result when men of honor no longer pursue this career. If anyone had said how dire our profession would be when I started 24 years ago I would have said not a possibility. God Bless the CPD.
As fetal as we try to be, there is still a high probability of stepping in shit, especially when surrounded by it in most districts these days. A small comfort should be the instant lawsuit on behalf of any officer affected when the city makes up its own rules either maliciously or through sheer stupidity. Fuck grievances. That process, while necessary, might save your midnight spot in your shithole district. Lawsuit a la Rialmo (good job kid) or the Baltimore 6 has become a necessary protection. Stripped without justification? Unqualified IPRA investigator? No affidavit? Charged criminally for political gain? Are you a poorly trained racist participating in over policing, genocide and a code of silence? Our employer chooses to play along; show them you won't. Every. Time.
A coalition of groups concerned with police accountability are teaming with the City Council’s Black Caucus to pressure Mayor Rahm Emanuel to publicly endorse specific changes in police union contracts to make it easier to investigate officers.
Why do they have to be BLACK?
These include everything from removing the requirement that citizens sign sworn affidavits
Target #1
Well first of all, the Sworn Affidavit provision is a State Law, and not subject to negotiations
So is Residence, hint, hint.
You can make up any kind of stupid lie about me, just let me move out of this hell hole.
Don't worry, I'll still sue you if it deviates from what the body camera shows.
And when you deviate in the slightest from what an armchair quarterback determines to be the politically correct actions of the day, made in the air-conditioned comfort of an easy chair, with water and snacks and the REWIND button handily at their side, you will be crucified in the name of political expediency, jobless, pension-less, un-hireable, and god forbid, imprisoned.
A. Don't do anything
B. Don't say anything.
C. Demand to see all video before giving statements. It is a due process thing, not a contract thing. Get it on the record, so the police board can be aware.
D. Chill out and enjoy 376
A letter to John Kass about today's column, about using the national guard to fight crime in Chicago.
Hello John,
Nice article. It seems like you just want to start a conversation to keep the problem alive for everyone.
The problem is you have to get those ideas past the excatholic priest at St. Sabina to be approved.
You have a mayor that is pandering to the power groups, (aldermen, gangs, reverends), in those areas for votes, ( he says he never lost an election), for his next election.
You have the president of the county board and her sheriff that says there are too many people of color in her jail, and does everything in her power, to keep the criminals out.
You have judges that keep the "catch and release" theory of law enforcement alive, with no real justice for the people of the neighborhoods or the crime victims.
You have the black caucuses that make the laws, that won't allow stronger laws to put more black criminals in jail.
You have rahm's Police superintendent that strips his people of their Police powers, "for their own good", even if they do everything properly.
The Chicago Police know how to handle the streets but have been neutered by all the politicians and every news outlet, that blame them for all the problems.
The real cause, (not the Police), are the special interests, that have had control of those neighborhoods for too long, to advance their own personal gains, have to be neutered.
Try telling the people that live in those areas that they are the problem, not the Police!
A former southsider
Whoever gets elected next month ought to seriously consider forgoing any sort of negotiations with the City for the foreseeable future. There is no way that the FOP (or the PBPA) can or should consider the City as negotiating in good faith. It just isn't possible in this atmosphere. Figure out something else - perhaps the National Lodge to come in and run things on the Contract end.
That will never happen, how else are you supposed to sell out to get your kid a Det spot??
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How do we get these spineless FOP presidents to file a lawsuit for RESIDENCY???!!! Just like every other city in AMERICA DID & WON!
2/22/2017 12:23:00 AM
If you think this is your biggest problem you have not been paying attention.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How do we get these spineless FOP presidents to file a lawsuit for RESIDENCY???!!! Just like every other city in AMERICA DID & WON!
2/22/2017 12:23:00 AM
If you think this is your biggest problem you have not been paying attention.
Off topic: Aldercreature Carrie Austin's grandson arrested in Chicago for murder in Louisville Kentucky.
Arbitration ONLY, and the degenerates suggesting these changes along with the treasonous city should be hanging from trees...
Rahm would do anything to screw us. Even if it was illegal.
To get everything they want, they'd need to give us residency, and 25% over four years to even entertain the thought. We're not getting that, and they're not getting the changes they want to the contract.
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
How do we get these spineless FOP presidents to file a lawsuit for RESIDENCY???!!! Just like every other city in AMERICA DID & WON!"
X2
Who's with us?
Isn't Mark Brown one of the media asshats
who wants Policemen punished for feeling
and thinking justifiably uncharitable thoughts
about the poisonous m/fers in the "community"
they're compelled to rub up against for one third
to one half of their lives?
With extra pain and punishment for openly expressing
those thoughts on this blog?
-The public is ill-served when officers are allowed to
get away with posting such vitriol on that blog without
being punished for it-
In other words, noses are out of joint because you
"mere public servants" aren't recognizing the new
place in the societal pecking order you've been
shifted down to and such civic niceties like rights
and due process will no longer be allowed to
percolate downward to you because of the new
conditions of employment your social betters have
demanded for you to "make everything fair now."
How dare you cops be angry for no good
reason about this "new normal."
Now smile and stop looking so mean and intimidating...
You're just public servants so start acting like it.
The media dishonest media going after coppers constantly looks like the reversed medication will devastate them Thursday get the popcorn:
Is James O'Keefe About To Smoke CNN? Tells Hannity He's Set To Release "Hundreds of Hours" Of Newsroom Footage "Wikileaks Style"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-21/james-okeefe-about-smoke-cnn-tells-hannity-hes-set-release-hundreds-hours-newsroom-f
Bye to some media! Liars get caught! Looks like President Trump correct again!
You could ask the national lodge for assistance, but they're still doubled over laughing at Lodge 7 for agreeing that the replacement of patrol cars is a "benefit" to be negotiated.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How do we get these spineless FOP presidents to file a lawsuit for RESIDENCY???!!! Just like every other city in AMERICA DID & WON!
2/22/2017 12:23:00 AM
Are you an idiot???
Thats the least of our problems. They want to put you in prision. But Hey, if that happens you won't live in the city no more? See so there you get your residency. Oh and nybthe way there is only one F.O.P. President.
You could always be like candidate K.G. and live out of the city but have a fake garden apartment address.
Mike shields would not stand for this and we already seen how much Dean gives up. If anything, right now we need someone aggressive who will push back at the city and not back down.
The media advises them, they in turn feed the media with stories that are "dishonest" about police spreading the anti-police narrative always, then you see these headlines showing clearly how clogged with disobedience of the law the elected like the rahm-toni-tommy crew are:
CPS tells principals not to allow immigration officials in schools without warrant
Amid ongoing tensions over changes to U.S. immigration policy, Chicago Public Schools on Tuesday told principals not to let federal immigration authorities inside district buildings unless they have a criminal warrant. Principals were also urged to have parents update student emergency contact...
(So this says you take billions in taxpayers federal tax dollars but now you will not comply with the law! Hey wait a minute tommy is closing divisions of the jail maybe you could use the cell structure to cage everyone in to keep federal law enforcement agents out another goofy idea)
Cook County sheriff's office has 'no interest' in joining federal immigration efforts
As the Trump administration publicly detailed its plans to more aggressively enforce immigration laws, a top Cook County sheriff's official said Tuesday the department has "no interest" in joining an effort that would use local police to round up immigrants living in the country without legal permission....
(no interest in obeying federal laws, great job tommy let more of the thugs and illegal invaders go free your protected)
Chicago's history as a sanctuary city
In late January, as President Donald Trump signed an executive order to cut off some federal funding to cities, counties and states that refuse to detain and turn over to federal authorities people who are living in the U.S. illegally, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel reiterated the city's commitment...
(Then rahm standing strong protecting the criminals even giving them over a cool million of taxpayers rebate money to hire lawyers instead of rightfully giving our money back this is a massive theft "lock them all up")
Aldermen hold up Emanuel's plans for property tax rebate money for now
Mayor Rahm Emanuel's plan to use unspent property tax rebate money for parks, crime-fighting technology and other ideas hit a roadblock Tuesday as several aldermen said he should be focusing the cash more directly on anti-violence efforts. The City Council budget committee did not vote on Emanuel's...
(Snap alderman are holding up rahms plans to use the rest of the rebate money to plant trees, with all the carnage and killings how about dedicating a "tree" to every victim? But the way it is going looks like we would run out of money soon resign rahm,toni,tommy,the 50 do us a solid)
This is exactly why you don't get out of the car. Drive by know evildoers and smile and wave. Who cares anymore??? 1st and 16th are the only things that matter. Stay safe , stay fetal and enjoy the show.
Kass started his 'journalism' career as a mole for Vrdolyak and Burke. When the two most crooked politicians in Chicago wanted to target another politician/institutions, Kass would target them in his articles. The G spotted him on Vrdolyak boat around 25 years ago and Kasss told them he was 'working on a story'. Kass was next door neighbors to Burke clan when he was a kid.
Say what you want about Burke, his son is stand up guy. Ed Jr. told Dart to his face he was a narcissistic child. Dart would have these staff meetings were he would belittle other brass and conduct himself like a petulant child. We would walk out the meetings in disgust and shock the way the Sheriff was acting. Jr finally had enough one day and lambasted Dart. He resigned before Dart could fire him. I have a lot of respect for him for that. Dart does not have the mental capacity to hold the position he's in and scares me to death he might even seek higher office.
Most of the membership will cave in to the almighty dollar and give up contractual protections. Don't do it!
The Key Issue in any FOP Ticket should not just be the individuals running for Office, but of equal importance: What Labor Law Firm does the new Administration intend to retain as counsel? Years ago when I confronted an FOP candidate running for Office, he told me "That" was not important. Almost 12 years ago I asked a slate that had been sent to our roll call if they were working on the Residency Requirement; he assured me they were. There can be Absolutely No Doubt, that any deal with Rahm is going to require that FOP have the top Labor law firm in the City. FOP candidates going to a seminar on labor negotiations is not enough. RAHM HATES THE POLICE, SOME OF YOU CANNOT GET A HANDLE ON THAT. RAHM'S NATIONAL POLITICAL AMBITIONS WERE DESTROYED BY THE CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT! Rahm is a guy who has to have Power, and he blames CPD for denying him what he felt was rightfully his; CPD will be made to pay in contract negotiations. So be prepared. As his emails showed, He joked about screwing the retirees. Yeah, that was really funny, especially for guys that are dying of cancer, or have an elderly spouse dying. Unless the FOP is strong; he will be joking about what he did to YOU and your families next! Do not underestimate Rahm; he is filled with Hate and Arrogance, You and Your Family mean less to him, than the Victims he believes cops abuse. We call those "Victims" Criminals. Baby"G"
Vote McGuire, he will not allow this bullshit any further. No plea deals like angelo
Dart was named for his uncle, also Tom Dart, an outfit bookmaker in Chatham. Odd how the outfit and democrat party seem to blend into one in Chicago.
By eliminating Protections you will force officers to become extremely generic in their response to questions. Any officer that answer questions with specifics would a fool, in any major incident. Forcing us to answer questions in prepared pre printed generic responses as supplied by a lawyer. We have seen that this administration is splitting hairs as towards which words were used by a member, and recommending separation for the misunderstanding or misinterpretation of a word. Be safe and choose your words wisely.
I have a question for SSC: what protections do the FBI< ICE< other federal agencies have regarding shooting a suspect? Also, does, SSC have any idea what the State of Illinois, and other police agencies have regarding this subject. I think that if the union members have this information than they can pressure whoever wins this next election to obtain the same protections. If I am not mistaken, didn't the current FOP President state that if the city wanted to take away these protections that had to come up big time with money compensation? THIS IS THE WRONG APPROACH. We should have the same protection as the FBI, This is a must. Another point: There should be no exceptions to the affidavit rules(State law)that states that in order for a complaint to go forward, a complainant must sign the affidavit for the complaint to go forward.
Seem like the FOP would have alot of leverage! But with DEAN limping around lately trying to be youthful he seem worn out. The election is making him earn that FAT check.
If Dean wins his salary will increase because he will be stealing a pension check and double dipping that FOP check of D-6 rate!
The DUDE has the same answer every meeting i'll look into that and nobody told me or was hurt. Kinda like a giant bubble for a guy who has not worked in a squad car in a decade!
I am kinda hoping the retirees do all vote for him just to see the blow back!
Isn't this considered negotiating in the press? Is that agreement done?
What did you expect? Typical... they can't fix da hood, but they can fix those bad police.
These idiots want to gut our police contract and then expect Police Officers to go after the criminal element with our hands tied behind our backs!
Can't have it both ways Dickheads!
Stay Fetal!
We need to get rid of useless FOP and go with TEAMSTERS!
If Dart fails to comply with the law when he has sworn to uphold the law, he should be removed from office.
I wouldn't blame FOP blame communities for not installing values/morals in themselves and others...Whoever is at FOP they can only defend you so much when their own hands are tied buy politicians!!!
We should have no more rights than the FBI does when it comes to officer invoked shootings. We should follow the same procedures as the FBI. How can the DOJ object to that when all we are asking the same safeguards as the FBI. No one wants to say how they are treated
I'm just waiting for the President to lock these jagoffs up for a federal crime involving their refusal to comply with Federal Laws. Watch there voting block of illegals run for cover when enforcement comes a knocking.
To the citizens of Chicago: be very careful what you ask for. You want to hold the police accountable? That is perfectly fine. I am a police officer and I believe that yes, the police should be held accountable since we hold the public's trust and society at large as given us authority. I also believe that two officers on my shift simply do not belong on this job. Let's be reasonable here shall we? Is it reasonable to have a citizen complain on a police officer but they do not sign an affidavit stating that they are telling the truth and not lying? At the same time the accused police officers DOES HAVE to sign such an affidavit. Does that make sense? Is it reasonable to have an officer write down exactly what happened after a high stress event like a shooting or a deployment of a taser, baton, pepper spray, etc. and not view the camera tape? The officer has to rely solely on memory alone. The research is definite, during high stress events, short term memory goes out the window. Yet that is what the politicians, media and the assorted activists want. Is that reasonable?
The above is just a few examples of the so called "reforms" that are disguised as "reforms" but they are designed to handcuff us and diminish our rights. Be very careful what you ask for citizens of Chicago. If you think the police officers are less proactive now, they will be even less proactive. Not because we are mean spirited, dislike the mayor, etc. But when working conditions and our rights are not on an equal footing then no reasonable officer would take the extra steps necessary to be proactive and all you will get is reactive policing.
I'll vote for the guy who says he's going after residency.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Mark Brown reminds me of a 60's radical....
2/22/2017 12:24:00 AM
He reminds me of a flaccid penis
Anonymous said...
How come "the community" etc. are only pissed off about our contractual protections?
The Feds have even more protections for them but nobody is up in arms about that.
2/22/2017 03:10:00 AM
That's the one that was fed to them to complain about. Remember? The news said contract is part of the problem. Then the politicians started talking about undoing the contract.
When is there going to be a Young Black Men Accountability Panel?
Everything is dependent on what folks Rahm needs in his re-election corner, the black or hispanic caucus, the community or the barrio.
He's been giving away the store for the immigrate lobby right now, so perhaps a gift is coming to the community.
The Contract will not be settled anytime thereafter it expires on June 30 and negotiations could easily be drawn into next year.
Rahm is still hoping for a solicited DJT Admin Federal bailout of sorts and it, if any will also not be forthcoming before 2018.
PLEASE, SEND IN YOUR FOP BALLOT.
Rahm's stoolies still gauge OUR participation.
shootings-the-fbi-deemed-agents-faultless.html
Stupidity has no limits!
How come "the community" etc. are only pissed off about our contractual protections?
The Feds have even more protections for them but nobody is up in arms about that.
2/22/2017 03:10:00 AM
'Cuz dey beez da eff-bee-muhfukin'-eye
up in dis heah rickety-ass bitch!
But seriously...
We were done with the Feds when they were
dicking around in 011 planting abandoned
cars stuffed full of money to "catch" Coppers
STUPID ENOUGH to take the money.
The local shit-heads were threatened with some
powerful hurt by the Feds, and the shit-heads
COMPLIED without ANY drama.
It's a wonderful day on Patrol when even
ONE stray swing-dick complies with a
Police order let alone an entire block
of straight up terrible-assed m/fers
genuflecting before some book-keepers
with guns and gold badges.
Don't get it twisted, we HATE a thief in a CPD
uniform, but the damned Feds had BEE-AY-DEE
m/fers within reach and refused to touch them...
"We're not interested in THEM..."
>M/Fers strolling by enveloped in a
thick, funky cloud of assholery, Fuckery
and abject criminality<
"We're just here to integrity check you coppers."
How Cops do their jobs in today's environment I don't have a clue. They want you to give a smiling thumbs up while your rights are reduced to guilty till proven innocent. There's no amount of money worth that. My favorite part of Copper Life is how often others that are supposed to be on your side will stab you in the back for the most trivial of reasons.
Ernie Brown was making more in pension(s)than most people do actually going to a job and BAM into the next life Ernie went. John Thomas was 52 when he checked out. I was in my twenties and thought Thomas was in his 60's. The public will continue to bully Cops into early and untimely deaths. Always believing that Cops get up in the morning and actually have Lethal Force on their minds. This isn't true, most Cops want nothing more then to get home to their Families or significant others.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Mark Brown reminds me of a 60's radical....
2/22/2017 12:24:00 AM
Uh, not quite. Many 1960'S radicals might have actually got into a coppers face and challenged them to do battle. Mark Brown spews vitriol while sequestered in a tiny cubicle littered with empty Starbucks cups reeking of estrogen (two shots please!) insulated from reality. Screw him. We won that election and will win the next one.
In these crazy times if you vote for anyone but Dean Angelo you should find another job!
Sent my ballot in today to FOP. Did not vote for anyone endorsed by Mike Shields or who were on the City-Wide Team. Only voted for people me and my buds actually know something about. We could not vote for anyone in the recording and financial secretaries races or the treasure position. Only voted for 13 trustees 5 retired 8 actives. Retirees had to be under 68 and actives actually in the field. Pickings are very very slim this year! But we voted.
Whoever is the FOP President should IMMEDIATELY publicly state that officer's rights are subject to any reduction. This is not just a Chicago issue but our contract will be used as a model for police contracts across the state.
Quit beefin about the union and every meeting have 1000 coppers show up and tell the union officers what you demand.
Free insurance for those maxed out but not yet 55!
Let us go!
Tom Dart is the son of Richard J Daleys' bag man and a 19th ward hack.Little Tommy received the finest education including law school on the money dad "made".Clouted in to the States Attorney office,clouted in to a State reps job and then given a do nothing spot in the Sheriffs office by Sheahan when he was a failure at the first two. No ethics,honor, etc. anywhere in Tom,it was never a requirement after Dad made the phone call. The people around him have nothing good to say about him,and his employees walk the other way when they see him coming. The emptying of the jail is two fold,first it builds that strong liberal aura of the man of the people (folks) at election time.Second and most important,ask Dart where the tax payers money budgeted to staff,maintain etc. those divisions has gone and while you're at it ask Dart why there is no money for Officers,equipment,training,paper clips or anything else but plenty for those ever increasing political hack/relatives of the media/community organizer jobs with made up exempt titles such as Director,asst. Director and asst.to the asst. Director. Look at his budget to see the dozens of shady jobs Dart has created and who has them. Sound familiar CPD ? Yes the great unkept,messy haired slob Sheriff is just another entitled child of a corrupt politician who has been spoon fed his entire life and can talk out of both sides of his mouth while stealing with both hands....sound familiar citizens of Chicago,Cook County,Illinois ?
Residency will not help you keep your job or stay out of jail. But keeping the contractual provisions in place that give you due process and job protections will. Those of you pushing for it don't seem to realize they want to be able to fire you on the spot should they feel aggrieved. When they say "I'll have yo job" they will know they can actually take it. The city is willing to sacrifice your employment and good name to save face and guarantee votes. They figure if you want your job bad enough you can fight for it back. Do NOT give up what's there to protect you. Once it's gone it city will never let you have it back because it benefits them too much politically if you don't.
"ALL ACTIVE MEMBERS PLEASE VOTE
Doesn't matter for who just please VOTE."
Dumbest shit I've ever seen written!!! Voting just to vote just fucks things up! I'm not voting because there is NO ONE WORTH VOTING FOR.!!!!!!!!!!! That's my vote. They ALL suck. Therefore, since I didn't vote and contribute to the mess I have every right to bitch and complain!!!
Anonymous said...
Sent my ballot in today to FOP. Did not vote for anyone endorsed by Mike Shields or who were on the City-Wide Team. Only voted for people me and my buds actually know something about. We could not vote for anyone in the recording and financial secretaries races or the treasure position. Only voted for 13 trustees 5 retired 8 actives. Retirees had to be under 68 and actives actually in the field. Pickings are very very slim this year! But we voted.
2/22/2017 03:52:00 PM
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You may have already be too late. 90% of the retires voting probably had their ballots back in the mail by Monday morning. The only race in contention is who finishes in the top 17 for trustee. Bartlett and Ferenzi should have run for trustee they could have won there. Blue voice got their mailer out too late so I'm thinking Preib gets beat. Graham, Merck, and Shields are all clowns. Angelo wins by default. 3rd VP is the only race I think is up for grabs.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Say what you want about Burke, his son is stand up guy. Ed Jr. told Dart to his face he was a narcissistic child. Dart would have these staff meetings were he would belittle other brass and conduct himself like a petulant child. We would walk out the meetings in disgust and shock the way the Sheriff was acting. Jr finally had enough one day and lambasted Dart. He resigned before Dart could fire him. I have a lot of respect for him for that. Dart does not have the mental capacity to hold the position he's in and scares me to death he might even seek higher office.
Don't get carried away. I'm sure he is a great guy, but it's a hell of a lot easier if your Byrnes son, a hell of a lot easier
FYI:
Little downtown skirmish of west and south youths at chicago's open weed market on Van Buren and State.
Be wary, liberal "Reporters" (not media, they report to various liberal left anti-police organizations of police misconduct etc) and one People's Law attorney observing police actions......
I suspect more are out there waiting to "bait" police... Welcome to a long summer of baiters and lying media....
be careful and tactical out there......work smarter, not harder.
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PV
Hey SCC - You have previously posted comments from Sgt's who received election ballots despite the fact that the Sgt. is no longer a FOP member. One was from an honest man/woman who was promoted 5 years ago! Is there any resemblance to our municipal elections board culling the names of departed voters? The FOP candidates not on the Deano team should start trying to secure a valid roster of Active and Retired members as well as ascertaining if those Sgt's, Lts, & Capts who still voluntarily pay dues are entitled to vote. The counting of ballots should be an open, civilized event subject to scrutiny instead of any closed door circus.
IF YOU'RE A MEMBER - PLEASE VOTE!
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John Kass does what Ed Burke tells him to do!
Gee, let's start talking about the contracts the press have, maybe they should give up some of the things they negotiated.
Dumbest shit I've ever seen written!!! Voting just to vote just fucks things up! I'm not voting because there is NO ONE WORTH VOTING FOR.!!!!!!!!!!! That's my vote. They ALL suck. Therefore, since I didn't vote and contribute to the mess I have every right to bitch and complain!!!
2/22/2017 05:32:00 PM
With that kind of logic, it's probably a blessing you don't vote.
Contract time. Let's not forget the 20 million red light camera settlement, the money left over from the realty 'tax rebate' that people didn't apply for and the 25 plus million not spent on snow removal and street salt purchases. The money from the discontinued TIF zones, (actual amount available never revealed), and the full accounting of the five cent a bottle tax instituted several years ago (amount not fully reported) and the interest earned from the one half billion from the Daley orchestrated Skyway sale that the city has not spent and actually invested, should make the negotiating interesting. Time to shake the city's money tree boys and girls. Oh Mr. Brown? Any of this might make for an interesting column or two. How about the city not contracting with private law firms while the Corpoation Counsel has four hundred lawyers in his office OR maybe firing some of them so they can enter the 'work force'.
Dropping residency would be a huge win for the city when it comes to negotiations of the contract. Just look at Boston. They're kicking themselves in the ass now.
OT: Hiring more black cops doesn't mean less blacks get shot...
http://www.forensicmag.com/news/2017/02/study-more-black-police-wont-result-fewer-police-involved-homicides-black-citizens
Let the mayor laugh and then run away from the cesspool Chicago has become. He managed the city into a living hell. Look for law work in another state. Do not become a victim of this moron.
Remember these words.........I don't have an independent recollection.
Just had 5 murdered within an hour in separate incidents all in area 2. One in 5, 2 in 022 in two separate incidents, two in 006 in the same incident, one male and one female dead. The female was also pregnant.
Let's hope whoever is the next FOP President stops telling the city to bring their checkbook every time they mention taking our rights away.
Uh..... If Ice or any other law enforcement agency desires to enter shitcago public schools while conducting an investigation they can unless some jagoff tries to stop them at which time the offending asshole can be charged with ...obstruction of justice. I hope it happens.
Little downtown skirmish of west and south youths at chicago's open weed market on Van Buren and State.
They actually went at it 3 different times within 2 hrs. The last one was in the middle of Congress/state blocking east and west traffic. A channel 2 news van drove right past and acted like they didn't see a thing
As a citzin and person who has seen how the Mayor and Pfkegar operate, it is my opinion. They should not be allowed to enter any negotiations regarding the police department.
You have the black caucuses that make the laws, that won't allow stronger laws to put more black criminals in jail.
You have rahm's Police superintendent that strips his people of their Police powers, "for their own good", even if they do everything properly.
Please post as though you understand the issue(s) you wish to address here, Francis. "Black caucuses" don't make laws, our downstate legislators do. Last time I checked, there are far more white legislators down there than there are black ones. Officers in our department are placed on administrative duties, not usually 'stripped' after a shooting. Sometimes, circumstances exist whereby an officer may need further restrictions. I won't say I agree with Johnson in all of those cases in which someone is stripped, but I would have to say he's had grounds on the majority of them. Even then, a stripped officer usually is still getting paid until they reach a 30 days pending status.
Coalition for Accountability in Police Contracts, are several groups including the ACLU of Illinois, Black Youth Project 100, Enlace Chicago and the NAACP Westside Branch whom are going to be involved in our contract!!!!!!!!!!!
This is going to be a very important contract, hope to have strong leadership with litigation knowledge and experience.
Did you see the DOJ blast CPD about the number of officer suicides in the department? 5 times the national average. The Sheriff's office is much higher. Everyone, DOJ, media silent. Take care of your people Sheriff.
Anonymous said ...
PLEASE, SEND IN YOUR FOP BALLOT.
Rahm's stoolies still gauge OUR participation.
2/22/2017 11:34:00 AM
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The enemy is already inside the gates. The democrats have had traitors inside the fop for years. Mark Donahue is the only present board member to endorse Rahm. His kids had summer jobs with the city clerks office when city stickers all expired 01 July every year. The Southside 19th ward owns him.
Ag-u-liar sat on the grievance in 2010 and 2011 on the destruction of CR#'s. Ever wonder why?
Rahm Emanuel wanted to do away with health care for retiree's. Three years ago in the heat of the last election Billy Dougherty stated that Obamacare was a good option for retirees.
Never forget 8-1/2 years ago Mark Donahue personally endorsed Obama and his followers all followed suit with him Bourret, Davis, DiMaria, Dougherty, and McCall.
He will be looking for a new job not in government goodbye Dart
Involved in a shooting; Hit the medical, chest pains, anxiety, dizziness and better yet if not the target of shots fired don't be in the position to shoot at the " I thought he was reaching for ", fuck 'em let 'em run, use the radio and go home safe these people just wanna hang a cop.
Whoa! If you're not filing a complaint with the requisite affadavit you can't be taken as a serious complainant! If you can't utilize the video on which you were seen responding is'nt that an
Obstruction-ofJustice by the prosecutor(s) ?
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