As Heard on the Blog
Rumor? Or truth?
- Hey SCC,
You wrote about the Academy stopping classes all summer in order to train everyone on the new "Use of Force" model a few weeks ago?
The announcement just came down - the next four months of hiring has been frozen to "facilitate" training. No idea how this will affect Rahm's numbers, but someone told us 250 more cops are retiring by 15 May.
Confirmation?
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
135 Comments:
I hope they have fans! And i hope they have some teachers that actually have used force on the job not a bunch of desk dollies.
Ever look up these TEACHER at the academy they don't exist as having any CR #'s.
But they all talk about how they were the radio guy in 011 or worked the HABLA homes as a CAPS officers.
ITS 1100 by May 15th!!!!! 55 and out say bye
Plus, they are going to be running the COPA Academy. COPA has a jump off date of September 15th and 100 civilians must be made into seasoned homicide detectives by then. Quite an ambitious plan. If they succeed, the next project will be training pigs to fly!
I'm here from the government/ACLU and here to fuck you.
I suspect the judge in the west coast case was judge shopped for the appropriate decision.
Well that is funny seeing about 400 just took the power test over the weekend...
Use of force is going to be taught at the areas, 4 hour class. Similar to how we got 4th Amendment training a few years ago.
There will be 250 more houses up for sale and 500 more lost residents. How is this all working out for the so called leaders.
Big announcements Friday.
Changes, and other news. 1700hrs.
This would jive with the AMC message from a few days ago asking for volunteers to apply to teach this shit. I didn't read the thing in its entirety, but it alluded to such.
My guess is that they'll hope to get enough suckers to bite via empty promises of being rewarded down the road, train them in the "new and improved" Use Of Force and then have them train everyone else.
Then once they've been used like Cicero and Arthington whores they'll be sent to ghetto districts since this "detail" ran north of 90 days.
Now would be a good time to remind all the impressionable kiddies out there who still might think that this outfit is on the up-and-up:
IT AIN'T AND DON'T VOLUNTEER FOR ANYTHING!
I'm not a cop but been lurking here since the start, was a friend of Detective Shaved Longcock and really all of the boys in blue.
I have a question. What, if anything has the CPD done to prepare for the mass riots planned by the communist anarchists on May Day?
Thanks, be safe and FFS stay fetal.
Well I don't know about May, but I left in April.
There must have been a gag order issued because when I was at 35th and Michigan, everyone I asked about the numbers they expected to retire in April was met with , "Oh ,they don't want us to discuss that issue".
So, all sworn full duty Academy staff will be out on the streets in a district patrolling this summer?
OT:
Hm. I wonder what brought this about:
The number of homicides in Baltimore this year is soaring -- reaching 100 before the end of April for the first time in nearly two decades -- and the mayor is asking the FBI for more help.
ot -
Lamon has started ANOTHER fundraiser. This time on the YouCaring fundraiser site.
Go take a look at what he wants to do/accomplish.
I personally love that under Services We Offer he states, "- Community Watch / Patrol to ensure residents and neighbors are safe by patrolling the streets after school. This will be in partnership with Chicago Police."
Feel free to report this fake fundraiser to the YouCaring people/folks.
https://www.youcaring.com/chicago-810133
well, they just made 60 FTO's, who start Monday.
Gee, I'm on furlough most of the summer....8a and 9a.
The Bizarro world continues.
Can't do two things at once?
Academy is a joke
Some instructors there more than 75% of their 20 years
Is rahmmy' street light replacement on schedual?
I'm retiring may 15 ;)
Why hasn't any respectable journalist asked where is all the money going that is set aside for a Police manpower force of 12,500?
(Ot) typical description groups of seven man in a dark colored SUV they are literally beating the shit out of people in this area here are they the Amish again the people that are doing this are totally out of control;
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/crime/251004564-story
The disease the carnage is spreading all over the city the mayor is totally responsible along with the 50 cowards who are afraid to speak out pro law and order and Tony and Tony they both pair are guilty of the same.
Well, it's going to be a hot summer. Perhaps this will be the year the city loses downtown to the extent it negatively effects tourism .
This is stupid, with all of the crime going on we need more officers. Officers are retiring daily.
251.....count me in.
I also heard two rumors about a Sgt class and Lt class coming up soon. Anyone got any info on that?
HUH. I WONDER WHAT’S DIFFERENT ABOUT THEM AND THE COUNTIES THAT HAD A LOT OF MURDERS? Murders in US very concentrated: 54% of US counties in 2014 had zero murders, 2% of counties have 51% of the murders. But that’s not the only mystery: “When you look at individual counties with a high number of murders, you find large areas with few murders. Take Los Angeles County, with 526 murders in 2014, the most of any county in the US. The county has virtually no murders in the northwestern part of the county. There was only one murder each in Beverly Hills, Hawthorne, and Van Nuys. Clearly, different parts of the county face very different risks of murder.”
118Posted at 10:21 pm by Glenn Reynolds
Hiring freeze and dont forget it may also mean a freeze on promotions until AFTER THE summmer months.
bottom line is rahm just found more money.
Smoke and Mirrors..They don't have the bodies to hire. Rahm will never hit the numbers he said because there aren't enough applicants..Even with them messing with hiring standards......They just gave another test and have to dumb it down so there doesn't show a disparate impact.....The use of force training will be off site anyway, not at the academy...
12 are retiring from 610. That is 5%. And how many Units does the Dept have? Five percent of the Dept is 600.
The more officers hired the more financial support our pensions receives.
What about guys who have the FPT May 6th? Will June be the last academy class then or are they SOL?
Oh well, STAY FETAL
Be sure to greet your new ACLU instructor each morning with "Hail Obama, Commandant!" Keep the "Kiss my ass!" to yourself if you want a job and a passing grade.
J.J.
I was fetal before it was cool.
Can I get 8 boss???
Hey local limpstream media. In past hiring announcements emanating from city hall you would gush over how many extra officers would hit the street. Replacing retired officers was never mentioned since the concept of attrition is too difficult for you to grasp. Maybe this time you can convey that an academy with limited resources cannot conduct recruit training and In Service Use of Force instruction simultaneously. Are you able to grasp the concept that Rahm lied and you validate those lies???
Retired .38 spl +P
I predict rahmmy will win the next mayor is election...........
Just ask Chia Pet he's the Department's Use of Force expert. The Department never makes a move without his permission!!!
Why would they host the May final power test if there isn't going to be a June academy start?
52 and 26 years I'm done. Bye bye
Anonymous Anonymous said...
ITS 1100 by May 15th!!!!! 55 and out say bye
4/27/2017 12:09:00 AM
Not sure number is that high but this May retirement is being hidden many in personnel cannot access total amount it must be monumental! Kevin Graham again your elected by the forgotten men and women of CPD issue #1 must be the pension!!
To those 250 ...
GTFO of the city, county, and state.
You served your time in hell. No reason to extend it.
Those who can't do, teach
rahm lie
tears of ballerina
while childen die
Blogger I Fart In Your General Direction said...
This would jive with the AMC message from a few days ago asking for volunteers to apply to teach this shit. I didn't read the thing in its entirety, but it alluded to such.
My guess is that they'll hope to get enough suckers to bite via empty promises of being rewarded down the road, train them in the "new and improved" Use Of Force and then have them train everyone else.
Then once they've been used like Cicero and Arthington whores they'll be sent to ghetto districts since this "detail" ran north of 90 days.
Now would be a good time to remind all the impressionable kiddies out there who still might think that this outfit is on the up-and-up:
IT AIN'T AND DON'T VOLUNTEER FOR ANYTHING!
4/27/2017 01:06:00 AM
Methinks they're having a hard time finding suckers to do this.
I've seen several postings in the past trying to recruit Sgt.'s and Lt.'s to get on board as trainers also.
So, all sworn full duty Academy staff will be out on the streets in a district patrolling this summer?
4/27/2017 03:23:00 AM
11 and 13 afternoons will be using vans again? Did desk food runs just get a lot easier?
If the academy does not have recruits every day of the year going through they will never keep up with attrition and the numbers of police officers on the street will continue to decline and Rahms new phase of violence manufacturing will kick in. His goal is chaos in this city and where there is chaos there is money to be stolen. The safety of this city's citizens is not a priority to this devil.
LMAO @ this job! I can teach that course in 5 min.... here's a set of blinders, just put them on.
Class of new officers to start 15 May 2017.
Interesting that Personnel hasn't put out a resignation order since 3/7/17. Probably can't fit all those names....
Anonymous said...
I hope they have fans! And i hope they have some teachers that actually have used force on the job not a bunch of desk dollies.
Ever look up these TEACHER at the academy they don't exist as having any CR #'s.
But they all talk about how they were the radio guy in 011 or worked the HABLA homes as a CAPS officers.
4/27/2017 12:08:00 AM
Lol!
HABLA homes?
That would've been Pilsen on a good day.
Radio guy in 011?
Only when the real one stepped
off the floor to take a shit...
Pay them no attention.
I hope they have fans! And i hope they have some teachers that actually have used force on the job not a bunch of desk dollies.
Ever look up these TEACHER at the academy they don't exist as having any CR #'s.
But they all talk about how they were the radio guy in 011 or worked the HABLA homes as a CAPS officers.
4/27/2017 12:08:00 AM
The HABLA Homes? It's ABLA, as in Addams, Brooks, Loomis and Abbott.
Anonymous said...
Academy is a joke
Some instructors there more than 75% of their 20 years
4/27/2017 06:48:00 AM
Most of the academy staff should be civilian instructors as are many police training academies around the country. You have a few sworn supervisors and the rest certified teachers of law and criminal justice and police procedure
Any more detectives classes coming soon? If the academy is full just have the dics train elsewhere...
Hm. I wonder what brought this about:
The number of homicides in Baltimore this year is soaring -- reaching 100 before the end of April for the first time in nearly two decades -- and the mayor is asking the FBI for more help.
4/27/2017 03:30:00 AM
Why don't they just set aside a chunk of the community for rioting like they did in 2015. People could rent it out (EBT /Link accepted) for birthdays, graduations?!, or just plane funnin.
Does the new "Use of Force" come with a test all must pass?
"hope they have some teachers (sic) that actually have used force on the job not a bunch of desk dollies...radio guy in 011 or worked the HABLA (sic) homes as a CAPS officers" - (4/27/2017 12:08:00 AM)
I like your astute observation on the academy perennial house mice instructors (not all) teaching District law enforcement tactics, but it's nothing new and is a problem. Learning from ones mistakes and passing that experience is a better way to correct a bad habit. They should have born-again instructors, those who did a 30-365 day pending. That's someone who'll tell you what it's like to be before a Board, a liberal Fed judge and held hostage in a bunker taking 311 calls unable to do some OT to pay legal expenses.
Academy instructors should not be community activists passing the Rahm palaver on us, and that makes the case that the Academy should be an all Civilian or at least dedicated Retired CPD institution. Furthermore CAPS should be entirely 100% Civilian.
I digress.
If training is forthcoming them it's a Rahm doing a Rahm...disguise the lack of hiring to placate an angry community demands, train the evil police how to respect the lawless. (Rahm's IPRAT's should be training the community on civil mannerism and behavior.)
No hiring for the remainder of the year and stalling all promotions in part because of lack of qualifying merit candidates.
As for 55 & Out...there's no chance that the new contract will be settled/ratified by June 30 and will probably go into late 2018 thereby extending the 55 Benefit at least another year or more. Those 52+ to 54 still have a chance to jump in under the current agreement.
But is it worth it ?
Mass exodus will draw little if any media attention but not enough citizens really care. There hasn't been enough police since 1988-93 and many of those are now part of the mass departure.
It's better to leave now, enjoy something you never had time to do and screw Rahm before the "no time due allowed" summer riots.
Don't forget your appearance commands respect!
It will also get baby mam up in your grill on the scene with her daring you to arrest her.
Wacky hipster in crazy outfits throwing water bottles at you.
Politicians who are senile will call you racist then call the special ED to have you fired all on a lie.
CANT wait for a new use of force RETREAT will be interesting after someone dies and then files a lawsuit against you for cowardice.
Can't do two things at once?
4/27/2017 06:20:00 AM
They can't do one thing correctly, so how do you expect them to do two things simultaneously and successfully?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
well, they just made 60 FTO's, who start Monday.
4/27/2017 04:27:00 AM
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You have the list?
OT: I have a question. What, if anything has the CPD done to prepare for the mass riots planned by the communist anarchists on May Day?
Bwahahahaha! Besides praying with "revrunds" and medicine men for rain and thunderstorms? Absolutely nothing. CPD is going with the same planning that went into the Trump protests at UIC. No crowd control training...no extra pepper spray issued...no proper gas mask checks. The bosses are more worried about pulling officers off the watch for e-learning. We were better prepared for the May Day protests in May 2000. Tac Teams had 2 days of training at the National Guard post in the South Loop and baton use was "encouraged". (Of course we were allowed to police 17 years ago.) If I were you I would stay away from the downtown area next week. Let's hope that the protest organizers are just as incompetent and dumb as the bosses in the CPD.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm not a cop but been lurking here since the start, was a friend of Detective Shaved Longcock and really all of the boys in blue.
I have a question. What, if anything has the CPD done to prepare for the mass riots planned by the communist anarchists on May Day?
Thanks, be safe and FFS stay fetal.
4/27/2017 03:10:00 AM
A day or two faxes will start flying with grand plans. Then more faxes. Then more faxes. Eventually tact teams will be notified the day before that their days off are cancelled and everyone will rush to go stand around. Horses will show up, then leave. Gas teams and hbt will be on call. Then just hbt. Then just a heavy weapons car, but ordered to stay a few miles away. Riot gear will be put on. Then ordered off because too intimidating. Then crown caps. Then crown caps replaced with riot helmets. Then shift change and new boss orders back into riot gear. Eventually benny hill runs past, and now the theme song is in your head. You are welcome.
Big shake up at the Academy is coming. DOJ report blasts the training. Reassignments are coming boys and girls.
Were gonna need national guard this summer All LEO's be safe out there with manpower shortage and the criminals knowing they can get away with anything the violence is gonna be insane. The anti police rhetoric also continues beating their drums, God bless you all stay safe!
This de-escalation and "sanctity of life" bullshit use of force model is strictly aimed at placating the BLM groups and "the community".... it certainly isn't meant to protect the officers.
In fact following this order will result in many more officer injuries and, God forbid, officer deaths.
Fuck you Rahm.
Fuck you FatHeadEd
Fuck you Granny Clampett.
The new Use Of Force is basically run away!
Why don't they just put the training in my training jacket like they always do? Then I don't have to drive all the way down to the academy....
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm not a cop but been lurking here since the start, was a friend of Detective Shaved Longcock and really all of the boys in blue.
I have a question. What, if anything has the CPD done to prepare for the mass riots planned by the communist anarchists on May Day?
Thanks, be safe and FFS stay fetal.
4/27/2017 03:10:00 AM
A day or two faxes will start flying with grand plans. Then more faxes. Then more faxes. Eventually tact teams will be notified the day before that their days off are cancelled and everyone will rush to go stand around. Horses will show up, then leave. Gas teams and hbt will be on call. Then just hbt. Then just a heavy weapons car, but ordered to stay a few miles away. Riot gear will be put on. Then ordered off because too intimidating. Then crown caps. Then crown caps replaced with riot helmets. Then shift change and new boss orders back into riot gear. Eventually benny hill runs past, and now the theme song is in your head. You are welcome.
4/27/2017 02:32:00 PM
Absolutely - 100% - spot on.
Not to mention fucking hysterical and you made me YouTube it. Everyone needs to set aside four minutes to enjoy "Yakety Sax".
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg
I hope that's not true!😏 Just took the "Power Test" on Saturday, 22 Apr 17 We were told that CPD will be conducting power tests every month for the next year & half and a class will be started by late June or July.
Taking officers and sergeants off of the street to teach the class, 100s will retire in May and yet they announce a hiring freeze right before summer. Geesh!
said...
Were gonna need national guard this summer All LEO's be safe out there with manpower shortage and the criminals knowing they can get away with anything the violence is gonna be insane. The anti police rhetoric also continues beating their drums, God bless you all stay safe!
4/27/2017 03:13:00 PM
If you do any police work during this shitshow "see you at your fundraising event" stay fetal I will promise you that protection for blue is #1 nothing else matters! Your getting the police force the mayor and cronies want!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Academy is a joke
Some instructors there more than 75% of their 20 years
4/27/2017 06:48:00 AM
Most of the academy staff should be civilian instructors as are many police training academies around the country. You have a few sworn supervisors and the rest certified teachers of law and criminal justice and police procedure
4/27/2017 11:54:00 AM
You hit the nail on the head on this one. You don't need police officer instructors teaching recruits. A lot of my instructors peppered their instruction with old war stories so we would recognize that they were once the "real police." That only reinforces the bad parts of our culture. Get professional teachers to teach.
Anonymous said...
Big shake up at the Academy is coming. DOJ report blasts the training. Reassignments are coming boys and girls.
4/27/2017 03:11:00 PM
the entire training program should be run by and taught by civilians. Just because someone has a gold star does not qualify them to run a police training program. Plenty of qualified people out there with academic and law enforcement and legal experience. Get those sworn people out of the academy and put then on the street where they belong. Enough of this hiding for the connected and unqualified.
This would jive with the AMC message from a few days ago asking for volunteers to apply to teach this shit. I didn't read the thing in its entirety, but it alluded to such.
My guess is that they'll hope to get enough suckers to bite via empty promises of being rewarded down the road, train them in the "new and improved" Use Of Force and then have them train everyone else.
Then once they've been used like Cicero and Arthington whores they'll be sent to ghetto districts since this "detail" ran north of 90 days.
Now would be a good time to remind all the impressionable kiddies out there who still might think that this outfit is on the up-and-up:
IT AIN'T AND DON'T VOLUNTEER FOR ANYTHING!
I already work,have worked in the ghetto so, a few months is better than none at all.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What about guys who have the FPT May 6th? Will June be the last academy class then or are they SOL?
4/27/2017 08:51:00 AM
I am wondering the same thing. I have the May 6 FPT and May 7 Psych. My investigator at personnel said the summer cancellation of classes is not true. From what I've noticed if anything, it would make sense to at least have the June class if they're subjecting us to the physical and psych in 2 weeks.
Can we have more protests please? Every time there is a protest, it's another $1000 in my pocket and I need a new deck for my pool.
4/27/2017 08:37:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The more officers hired the more financial support our pensions receives.
4/27/2017 08:45:00 AM
I thought the new hires payed into a different fund? Something like a 401k with the city not paying as much???
I hope I'm wrong...
Boys Night Out: Rahm & Aldercreatures
Gather To Watch "Chicago Fire"
12:08AM.......
ABLA, goof.
Get some time on the job and I might give you a fresh battery.
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
7:14PM....
Same fund, different benefit. Everyone hired after January, 2011 is "tier 2".
All wet! Hey you might need a raincoat
Shakedown! Dreams walking in broad daylight
Three hun-dred six-ty five de-grees
Burning down the house
------Chip Monk
Spokesman for Rahm Emannuel
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Contracts? I don't need to show you no contracts!
Gimme a 6" pour, 4,000 psi high-grade concrete with
#4 steel rebar over 1 1/4" compacted fractured stone
----And I promise not to drive on it for 28 days (R.E.)
Go check CPS website. They are teaching a class on John Burge and torture "victims" - tied into a reperations curriculum? Wtf is this world coming to ? Was on Ch. 11 Chicago Tonight.
I am wondering the same thing. I have the May 6 FPT and May 7 Psych. My investigator at personnel said the summer cancellation of classes is not true. From what I've noticed if anything, it would make sense to at least have the June class if they're subjecting us to the physical and psych in 2 weeks.
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Hey grasshopper, I assume FPT stands for final power test. If you have the psy. test after the FPT , then chances are that's not the FPT. I had my psy test and psy. interview way before my FPT. The day I passed the FPT I was " hired " and started the academy 3 weeks later. Good luck.
SCC two guards were seriously injured in ambush attack at jail. Same inmates involved in fire and Dart still refuses to put inmates on lockdown. One officer in coma, another face shattered.
Then no promotions until after summer, we are going to need everyone possible to be out on the street when it gets warm everyday.
http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2017-04-27/jim-dey-northwestern-suit-promises-big-load-dirty-laundry.html
Hey SCC: check this out.
4/27/2017 08:37:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The more officers hired the more financial support our pensions receives.
4/27/2017 08:45:00 AM
I thought the new hires payed into a different fund? Something like a 401k with the city not paying as much???
I hope I'm wrong...
4/27/2017 07:14:00 PM
You are wrong. Nothing has changed in regard with our pension. New hires pay into same pension. The law has not changed and neither Rahm nor Rauner has been able to change it.
450 Policers have retired from 01 Jan 2017 to 15 April 2017. 300 are expected to retire May 2017.Another 300 are expected to retire by December 2017.Got those numbers from a trusted source in the Personnel Section.
(OT) guess people are getting tired of this diversity bullshit:
Judge: Mostly white Southern city may secede from school district despite racial motive
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/judge-says-mostly-white-southern-city-may-secede-from-its-school-district--even-though-the-effort-has-attacked-dignity-of-black-school-children/2017/04/26/4d654232-2a89-11e7-b605-33413c691853_story.html?utm_term=.16c872f382b3
Not racism but realism! "Keeping it real?"
"Yakkety-Sax"
aka - The Benny Hill Theme...
Some wag opined that it should be the
new national anthem...
Hmmm...
Off topic another attack by guards at CC jail. Dart actually said on the news tonight that the inmates are frustrated cause their cases are being delayed. He was actually sympathetic to inmates who just put a guard in a coma. I have never seen a bigger jackass in law enforcement in my life. Can you do a post on this so we can at least ven. We don't have a Sheriff blog anymore to vent .
They still pay into the pension. They are part of tier 2. They can't collect until either 55 or 57.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"hope they have some teachers (sic) that actually have used force on the job not a bunch of desk dollies...radio guy in 011 or worked the HABLA (sic) homes as a CAPS officers" - (4/27/2017 12:08:00 AM)
I like your astute observation on the academy perennial house mice instructors (not all) teaching District law enforcement tactics, but it's nothing new and is a problem. Learning from ones mistakes and passing that experience is a better way to correct a bad habit. They should have born-again instructors, those who did a 30-365 day pending. That's someone who'll tell you what it's like to be before a Board, a liberal Fed judge and held hostage in a bunker taking 311 calls unable to do some OT to pay legal expenses.
Academy instructors should not be community activists passing the Rahm palaver on us, and that makes the case that the Academy should be an all Civilian or at least dedicated Retired CPD institution. Furthermore CAPS should be entirely 100% Civilian.
I digress.
If training is forthcoming them it's a Rahm doing a Rahm...disguise the lack of hiring to placate an angry community demands, train the evil police how to respect the lawless. (Rahm's IPRAT's should be training the community on civil mannerism and behavior.)
No hiring for the remainder of the year and stalling all promotions in part because of lack of qualifying merit candidates.
As for 55 & Out...there's no chance that the new contract will be settled/ratified by June 30 and will probably go into late 2018 thereby extending the 55 Benefit at least another year or more. Those 52+ to 54 still have a chance to jump in under the current agreement.
But is it worth it ?
Mass exodus will draw little if any media attention but not enough citizens really care. There hasn't been enough police since 1988-93 and many of those are now part of the mass departure.
It's better to leave now, enjoy something you never had time to do and screw Rahm before the "no time due allowed" summer riots.
4/27/2017 12:24:00 PM
How do you figure that those that are 52, or even 53, will be OK until 2018???!!!
Keep posting wile you're drunk. Drunkard.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/foxx-drafts-bill-to-give-fatal-police-shootings-a-second-review/
Not sure number is that high but this May retirement is being hidden many in personnel cannot access total amount it must be monumental! Kevin Graham again your elected by the forgotten men and women of CPD issue #1 must be the pension!!
4/27/2017 10:01:00 AM
The Mexican Says:
The difference between good grammar is knowing your shit, and knowing you're shit. I'd hate to see "your" paper.
The fact is that no one knows the exact number of PO's retiring in May, or this year, for that matter. Only personnel knows that, and only as of this writing. I am retiring in June, and haven't put my papers in, yet. I'm sure others are, as well.
4/27/2017 08:45:00 AM
I thought the new hires payed into a different fund? Something like a 401k with the city not paying as much???
I hope I'm wrong...
You are wrong
If the numbers are that high for May, why would they promote anyone at this time?
Big shake up should occur at the academy . First, we get rid of the mentals...
Hey SCC... Question, how does it work if I'm going through the process to get into CPD and I'm turning 40 by late June?? What happens if I'm still in the process as I turn 40 and I do not receive academy letter??
Those who can't do, teach
Sooo... does that mean your in?
Rahm is a suburban little boy who takes care of his 1 percenter people and still has no clue.He didn't grow up on the streets of Chicago and his advisors just tell him what he wants to hear.They all make him feel like he's 6 feet tall.He lives in his liberal ideological world without the logic.He thinks it's cool to live in the city.This is the man that said,don't ever let a crisis go to waste.He sure has become a crisis manager.He's addicted to the adrenaline rush of a napoleon.
Anonymous said...
The more officers hired the more financial support our pensions receives.
4/27/2017 08:45:00 AM
I thought the new hires payed into a different fund? Something like a 401k with the city not paying as much???
I hope I'm wrong...
4/27/2017 07:14:00 PM
You are wrong. They pay into the same thing as everyone else. Only difference is that they pay about 1% more of their paychecks into the fund than older officers and they have to work to a higher age to collect. Two-tier pension system.
None for Noth'n
The New guy at O'hare got caught watch his iPad while sitting on a chair by a citizen. The citizen recorded it ... coming to IAD soon and you tube. .... Marty-da!!!!!
Most of the academy staff should be civilian instructors as are many police training academies around the country. You have a few sworn supervisors and the rest certified teachers of law and criminal justice and police procedure
4/27/2017 11:54:00 AM
You hit the nail on the head on this one. You don't need police officer instructors teaching recruits. A lot of my instructors peppered their instruction with old war stories so we would recognize that they were once the "real police." That only reinforces the bad parts of our culture. Get professional teachers to teach.
4/27/2017 05:45:00 PM
Name one academy that has 100% civilian instructors. Not retired officers but all civilian instructors? The city will not hire civilians to replace sworn instructors. Academy has a political leader and the majority of instructors have political connections, just like every other unit. Training has always had the lowest priority in this department.
I thought the new hires payed into a different fund? Something like a 401k with the city not paying as much???
I hope I'm wrong...
You're wrong.
Limpstream media, love that one...rahms cucks...
Get the cheaters please
You mean politically connected educators and prior law enforcement agents. This is Chicago. Keep it real not in la la land.
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the entire training program should be run by and taught by civilians. Just because someone has a gold star does not qualify them to run a police training program. Plenty of qualified people out there with academic and law enforcement and legal experience. Get those sworn people out of the academy and put then on the street where they belong. Enough of this hiding for the connected and unqualified.
A day or two faxes will start flying with grand plans. Then more faxes. Then more faxes. Eventually tact teams will be notified the day before that their days off are cancelled and everyone will rush to go stand around. Horses will show up, then leave. Gas teams and hbt will be on call. Then just hbt. Then just a heavy weapons car, but ordered to stay a few miles away. Riot gear will be put on. Then ordered off because too intimidating. Then crown caps. Then crown caps replaced with riot helmets. Then shift change and new boss orders back into riot gear. Eventually benny hill runs past, and now the theme song is in your head. You are welcome
You got dat right.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey SCC... Question, how does it work if I'm going through the process to get into CPD and I'm turning 40 by late June?? What happens if I'm still in the process as I turn 40 and I do not receive academy letter??
Tough one. Technically you have to be hired before 40 and you are not hired until you START the academy
Now the question is do you wait and see if you slide through, will they catch it or do you bring it to their attention and hope they would put you in the next class. Tough decision no one is in the position to tell you what to do
Hopefully you will be in the next class and start the academy before the middle of June good luck and wish you well
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They still pay into the pension. They are part of tier 2. They can't collect until either 55 or 57.
You are correct. They still pay into the pension and can't collect a full pension until they are 55. If they retire between 50 and 55 there is a SUBSTANTIAL PENALTY if they do
Other significant change is their pension is determined by the last 96 consecutive months of pay when tier 1 is the last 48. That's a big change because in you stay 30 years, 5 years will be at the 25 yr rate and 3 at your 20 year rate. Check a current 30 yr salary and compare in to a 20 yr salary of 8 years ago. You will be surprised at the difference
Then no promotions until after summer, we are going to need everyone possible to be out on the street when it gets warm everyday.
Gerry McCarthy was very adamant that weather does not affect crime!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How can you say otherwise?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They still pay into the pension. They are part of tier 2. They can't collect until either 55 or 57.
4/27/2017 10:45:00 PM
That is true if you have any pension questions call the pension board ask fro Mike Lappe he is knowledgeable!
Hey SCC... Question, how does it work if I'm going through the process to get into CPD and I'm turning 40 by late June?? What happens if I'm still in the process as I turn 40 and I do not receive academy letter??
You have to start the acadmey before your 40th birthday. If you turn 40 while in the process, you're no longer eligible for hire.
i ve been saying it for over a year. Had the # retiring at 1000-1200..Big classes of 90-1 are about to retire in a year and a half. Thats another 600-1000. In 2 years this dept will lose 2000.City will be lucky to hire 500. Big seniority jump for the young dept. But u will have nobody on the street to back u up. The city will be Detroit by 2020.
Anonymous said...
They still pay into the pension. They are part of tier 2. They can't collect until either 55 or 57.
4/27/2017 10:45:00 PM
I may be wrong, but I thought they max out at 70% as well.
Not sure number is that high but this May retirement is being hidden many in personnel cannot access total amount it must be monumental! Kevin Graham again your elected by the forgotten men and women of CPD issue #1 must be the pension!!
4/27/2017 10:01:00 AM
The Mexican Says:
The difference between good grammar is knowing your shit, and knowing you're shit. I'd hate to see "your" paper.
The fact is that no one knows the exact number of PO's retiring in May, or this year, for that matter. Only personnel knows that, and only as of this writing. I am retiring in June, and haven't put my papers in, yet. I'm sure others are, as well.
4/27/2017 11:03:00 PM
FYI, Lady at Pension Board said 106 officers are retiring by May 15 for the 55 and out free insurance. They have a list of people who signed up for it.
4/27/2017 10:45:00 PM
I may be wrong, but I thought they max out at 70% as well.
They still max out at 75% but of the average of their last 96 months salary instead of the current of 48 months
Anonymous Anonymous said...
i ve been saying it for over a year. Had the # retiring at 1000-1200..Big classes of 90-1 are about to retire in a year and a half. Thats another 600-1000. In 2 years this dept will lose 2000.City will be lucky to hire 500. Big seniority jump for the young dept. But u will have nobody on the street to back u up. The city will be Detroit by 2020.
The fact that you have been saying it does makes it true. No way 1000 to 1200 are retiring. Big jump in may to 106 because it is close to the end of the contract. It's no secret how many are retiring. They had to put their papers in. Nothing anyone can do about the number of po's retiring. Just more nonsense and conspiracy theory's Read the bs here earlier this year that they were lined up down the hall to retire and personally ran out of retirement stars
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not sure number is that high but this May retirement is being hidden many in personnel cannot access total amount it must be monumental! Kevin Graham again your elected by the forgotten men and women of CPD issue #1 must be the pension!!
4/27/2017 10:01:00 AM
The Mexican Says:
The difference between good grammar is knowing your shit, and knowing you're shit. I'd hate to see "your" paper.
The fact is that no one knows the exact number of PO's retiring in May, or this year, for that matter. Only personnel knows that, and only as of this writing. I am retiring in June, and haven't put my papers in, yet. I'm sure others are, as well.
4/27/2017 11:03:00 PM
FYI, Lady at Pension Board said 106 officers are retiring by May 15 for the 55 and out free insurance. They have a list of people who signed up for it.
4/28/2017 03:22:00 PM
FYI; I am younger than 55, will have my 20 years in when I retire this spring, and do not have inform the pension board of my retirement beforehand.
The pension board has no exact number on how many are retiring, so what's your point?? That you know the number of 55-and-outers?! Thank you. You've been extremely helpful.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not sure number is that high but this May retirement is being hidden many in personnel cannot access total amount it must be monumental! Kevin Graham again your elected by the forgotten men and women of CPD issue #1 must be the pension!!
4/27/2017 10:01:00 AM
The Mexican Says:
The difference between good grammar is knowing your shit, and knowing you're shit. I'd hate to see "your" paper.
The fact is that no one knows the exact number of PO's retiring in May, or this year, for that matter. Only personnel knows that, and only as of this writing. I am retiring in June, and haven't put my papers in, yet. I'm sure others are, as well.
4/27/2017 11:03:00 PM
FYI, Lady at Pension Board said 106 officers are retiring by May 15 for the 55 and out free insurance. They have a list of people who signed up for it.
4/28/2017 03:22:00 PM
FYI; I am younger than 55, will have my 20 years in when I retire this spring, and do not have inform the pension board of my retirement beforehand.
The pension board has no exact numberh on how many are retiring, so what's your point?? That you know the number of 55-and-outers?! Thank you. You've been extremely helpful.
4/29/2017 12:00:00 AM
You're welcome.
Since Rahm took office the academy has not been able to keep up with attrition. The move to shut down the academy will only put more neighborhoods closer to the anarchy and lawlessness of the wild west. They say manufacturing is dead in the midwest but Rahm has a lock on manufacturing violence and death here in Chicago. Maybe he should be appointed to the presidents council for made in America by Americans. He could show all other cities how to completely ignore the safety of its citizens.
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FYI; I am younger than 55, will have my 20 years in when I retire this spring, and do not have inform the pension board of my retirement beforehand.
The pension board has no exact number on how many are retiring, so what's your point?? That you know the number of 55-and-outers?! Thank you. You've been extremely helpful.
Don't understand what you are trying to say or do by not informing the pension board of your retirement this spring. Spring is already here. Can tell you one thing the earlier you notify the pension board the easier the process is. Saves you from calling 6 weeks later a d saying "Where's my pension check"
Hey grasshopper, I assume FPT stands for final power test. If you have the psy. test after the FPT , then chances are that's not the FPT. I had my psy test and psy. interview way before my FPT. The day I passed the FPT I was " hired " and started the academy 3 weeks later. Good luck.
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Ever think that the process has changed since you got hired?? Because it has and it's probably to save the city money. When I was hired my last step was a power test too & was told to report to the acadmey with only 2 days notice. Things have changed since then.
FYI; I am younger than 55, will have my 20 years in when I retire this spring, and do not have inform the pension board of my retirement beforehand.
4/29/2017 12:00:00 AM
Have you looked to see the amount you will pay for medical insurance? Without the VA, nobamacare, a working spouse, another job with medical benefits or pretending to be indigent under a different SS# and using Medicaid, you are in for a big surprise because it will be big money and will only continue to rise. Let's say you will be 53 years of age when you retire. You have 12 years before you turn 65 years of age. Being conservative, let's average your monthly payment at $1800 a month for those 12 years and that is just for you, alone. Make it $3.5K for you and the spouse and $4500 for you, the spouse and the eternal juvenile in the basement. You will have paid $259,200.00 or $504,000.00 or $648,000.00 respectively. My rear orifice puckered when merely entering those numbers into this post! I hope you have planned ahead?
you heard it here first
from a fly on the wall at city hall
no free health insurance until mandatory retirement age of 63
he will keep experienced police officers and command staff on the job
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey grasshopper, I assume FPT stands for final power test. If you have the psy. test after the FPT , then chances are that's not the FPT. I had my psy test and psy. interview way before my FPT. The day I passed the FPT I was " hired " and started the academy 3 weeks later. Good luck.
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You were not hired the day you passed that test. You were hired the day you started the academy and started getting paid. If you remember after the test you had to report to personally and start the paperwork to get hired and on that paperwork it said this is an offer to get hired. A few years back there was a big stink when recruits were given their notices to report to the academy in 2 weeks. They gave notice or quit their jobs and prior to them reporting to the academy the city withdrew the offer. My husband was one of those guys
Not true I start the academy may 16
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not true I start the academy may 16
If you were hired I take it you are now getting paid. You are not hired or starting to get paid until may 16. If the city for whatever reason decides against starting a class or delaying the may 16 class you will not have a job and you will be getting paid what you are getting paid now $0. Read you paperwork it's a conditional offer
Chicago, the Number 1 violence manufacturing district in the the USA. American violence, made by Americans and brought to you by the Democratic Violence Manufactures Association, CEO Rahm Emmanuel, the Cook County Violence Council, President, Tony Preckwinkle, The Judicial Tollerence Council, Chief Judge Timothy Evans and the Close the jails Movement, Sheriff Tom Dart. If you think this is satire then you probably are a Democrat.
Hey grasshopper, I assume FPT stands for final power test. If you have the psy. test after the FPT , then chances are that's not the FPT. I had my psy test and psy. interview way before my FPT. The day I passed the FPT I was " hired " and started the academy 3 weeks later. Good luck.
4/27/2017 09:23:00 PM
Things have changed since you were hired I believe. Not sure how long ago you were. But this is the email text I received. I have not had my medical/psych interview yet:
Please see the attached document for information regarding your mandatory Final POWER Test on Saturday, May 6, 2017 at 8:00 am and your mandatory written Psychological Test on Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 6:30 am.
Please respond to personnelinvestigation@chicagopolice.org that you will be attending both dates.
Chicago Police Department
Human Resources Division
I'm in the FTO class at the academy. There are plenty of recruits in the academy with more on the way!!! Don't believe that they are not hiring. The City has a budget for 970 new hires!
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