New Exam Coming?
Looks like it:
- FYI on Friday 4 well dressed visitors arrived at 35th street for meetings. They signed in at the front desk. Where were they from you ask??McCann Associates. If you don't know who they are google them like I did. They are a promotional exam testing company. No doubt now the process has begun to get new promotional exams out there soon. Sgts? Lts? Guess IO solutions got dumped and a new company is being used to make it seem on the straight and narrow now.
So which exam?
Obviously, the most compromised one is the Lieutenants Exam, rife with cheaters and others who had the answers, along with provable allegations that the so-called "Subject Matter Experts" violated not only the confidentiality agreements, but profited monetarily. At somewhere between $2-and-4 million dollars to develop a test, this is an expensive "do-over."
The Detective and Sergeant exams don't have nearly the cloud handing over them that the Lieutenants exam does, nor the pending grievance that the PBPA is threatening to file.
Obviously, the most compromised one is the Lieutenants Exam, rife with cheaters and others who had the answers, along with provable allegations that the so-called "Subject Matter Experts" violated not only the confidentiality agreements, but profited monetarily. At somewhere between $2-and-4 million dollars to develop a test, this is an expensive "do-over."
The Detective and Sergeant exams don't have nearly the cloud handing over them that the Lieutenants exam does, nor the pending grievance that the PBPA is threatening to file.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
103 Comments:
I don't know where you get your info from. But tests are not grievable. So no union has any intention of filing anything .
Good. I'm glad We all get another shot at the Lt test but what about the cheaters who are walking around wearing the Lts bars? What's their punishment?
As I've heard no more Lts are even going to get made off this list because of the pending IG findings about this. I'm sure when they come out the department is going to hit back that a new test is already in the works with a new independent agency and we will be freezing this current list until a new test is given... or something to that effect. No more oral boards from what I hear. Allegedly the department is looking for a 200-400 question scantron test that can have a list set within a week or two thus not dragging it out and limit the gap of promotions. All of this is just hearsay but it makes a ton of sense now since reading this. I heard this info about two or three weeks ago this seems to help confirm this.
they were meeting with the fire department, not the police department...
Please let there be a new sgts exam I missed the last test by 2 months senority! I'm tired of calling all my friends sir and seeing them get promoted to white shirts!
Yeah but the problem is that all the cheaters from the Lt test got their promotions already. The only ones left are the legit guys and girls that would've made it if not for the cheaters and merit. Is it fair to tear it down now and screw over the people that actually probably know what they're doing out there?
I really don't think the PBPA has the balls to file a grievance. I think a lawsuit would be more appropriate. They stole the test from the honest people.
Get rid of Subject Matter Experts.
Stop weighing questions and stop weighing answers.
Stop any form of standardizations or race norming.
Stop the oral.
No exemptions or special privilege for an applicant to take the test off site (the Casey Rule).
Only employee# and thumb print on the score sheet to I.D. the applicant.
Give a test based on the Orders, Rules and Regulations, State Law,and City Ordnances.
Scan test after completion and give score to applicant before leaving the building.
Ties resolved by seniority and birth date, as has been the method to break ties, for position on the list.
Post the results of the test within 72hrs.
Got a problem??? Throw $2 to $5 million to solve it. Gotta crime problem, just gut a poleec department and hire newbs to take your report when you get robbed
With the possible exception of the entrance exam which is highly suspect, all CPD exams have a cloud of suspicion hanging over them, look no further than who's been promoted over the last 20 years.
Will they actually admit the Lieutenants test was compromised?
Promises, promises. Still no guidelines as to what constitutes a merit pick or why a person is picked for merit. Still no disposition as to the lietenants scandal. I say screw it, if a boss can hold a secret study group (wink, wink) then I should be able to pay a politician for rank. lets go back to the old days. at least everyone would have a fair shot.
Oh no that's bad news for me!
A lot of decent people are close to being promoted hopefully they'll make it. What a shame that merit have taken up over 100 spots off this exam. When a secretary gets meritoriously promoted by the person she works for that's a sign of how fucked up the merit system is. Most importantly will dejesus-dillon be eligible for a merit lt promotion?
So that's the solution? Leave the cheaters alone and bring in a new group to develop a new test? Yeah that's fair! Smoke and mirrors
Not fair. I hope the right person goes after the cheaters. If I was accused of stealing then I would be in trouble. They deserve to be punished by whatever means necessary
Maybe Fenton can get a merit bump this time. Na she's still talking shit.
sergeants from IAD who cheated on this promotional examination, what disciplinary action was meted out?
I know, I mean 'a friend' knows a couple NOBLE members that all made Sgt off that last test, 3 of them were in no way capable of receiving their score in the top 75 (1st couple classes to make rank)
Besides, its also the appearance, if 1 is tainted you know for damn sureALL were tainted.. just look @ NOBLE and its relations
Is Gene Williams now working for McCann and Associates?
Could be the fire side testing.....we've had our own scams lately. After all we are the illegitimate occupiers of your crooked (literally) bed bug infested building.
Anonymous said...
Good. I'm glad We all get another shot at the Lt test but what about the cheaters who are walking around wearing the Lts bars? What's their punishment?
4/11/2017 12:08:00 AM
Nothing will happen. Remember "notify the watch commander"? The investigation will die and those who benefitted will move on and become the next generation of gold stars. Think about it, do you really think Rahm while in the political fight of his life is going to expose decades of cheating and question the legitimacy of the entire command staff and promotions in general just because this time a handful of blacks instead of the usual connected white people got sloppy about it?
SCC please put up a post informing everyone what happened to Author Heather Mas Donald (War on Cops) as she was TRYING to exercise her 1st Amendment right in the USA! I encourage EVERYONE to buy her book!
Subsisidized insurance for those maxed out !
SAd does any one that want to be a LIE-tenant actually have saving to file a lawsuit?
We always hear the old"the union should do" yet the actual person hurt won't even scratch out a to from or file a complaint.
It is very easy to take out an equity loan for a swimming pool but when it involves your career its time to cry and do nothing.
Don't be a victim...
A lot of decent people are close to being promoted hopefully they'll make it. What a shame that merit have taken up over 100 spots off this exam. When a secretary gets meritoriously promoted by the person she works for that's a sign of how fucked up the merit system is. Most importantly will dejesus-dillon be eligible for a merit lt promotion?
4/11/2017 03:01:00 AM
Get over JanAshley. Yes she was merit. Yes we know the family. However when it comes to merit she is extremely competent. Your focus should be on the merits who don't know and don't care about the job. She actually takes the position seriously and is knowledgeable.
OT offender dies in lock up in 003 and it's not mentioned in roll call? Regardless of whether the guy had heart problems and CFD gave them the thumbs up, it should still be mentioned in roll call. BUT STAY OFF THE NATION OF ISLAM PROPERTY,DO NOT SET FOOT OR WHEEL THERE. Lest you shall be stricken with a CR is mentioned in every single roll call!!!!!!
Wheeeezzzzeeee i'm hearing is suppose to be a "subject expert"
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Please let there be a new sgts exam I missed the last test by 2 months senority! I'm tired of calling all my friends sir and seeing them get promoted to white shirts!
4/11/2017 12:33:00 AM
Never mind that. Learn the job and get some time on. We dont need anymore 5 year wonder sgts whether they passed the test legit or not. There's something to be said for experience which alot of these new sgts lack. Inexperienced supervisors are part of the problem plaguing this dept. 10 years should be the minimum to get promoted to sgt.
So the people that did not get promoted have more ammunition to show the past testing
was not fair. It also shows that the IG investigation must have evidence that current supervisors cheated during the past testing. Now all you hard chargers have to ask yourself
Is that supervisor over you a fake?
I have taken 5 promotion tests. Still pushing a beat car. Retiring this year.
Remember what Kirby started
Earned not given.........ha ha ha ha.
Just because some suits show up for a meeting does not mean that they are preparing to write a new promotional exam. Companies that have an interest of any sort in public safety are always selling their wares or trying to.
Hey N.O.B.L.E.! The check is in the mail. Wink, wink
How many more millions do we have to spend to get a fair test
Did the test company reps go meet with Eddie or Fenner?
Please let there be a new sgts exam I missed the last two tests because I overslept.
Just last month in the departments, 'reform moving forward guide', they said many more supervisors will be promoted this year. I'm guessing the sgts list will remain up and highly doubt the city would take down the Lts list. If they do they'd be admitting to the corruption and cheating on that test. Also they would be screwing the sgts that are close that studied their butts off.
""With the possible exception of the entrance exam which is highly suspect, all CPD exams have a cloud of suspicion hanging over them, look no further than who's been promoted over the last 20 years.""
When they let every half wit cheat on tests just to get thru the academy didnt it occur to you then that this was a common practice ?
". . . nor the pending grievance that the PBPA is threatening to file. "
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There is really no grievance to file.
There is no contract violation or workers rights violations.
This was a straight-up criminal act.
The only things that can be done are filing criminal charges and lawsuits.
So that's the solution? Leave the cheaters alone and bring in a new group to develop a new test? Yeah that's fair! Smoke and mirrors
4/11/2017 03:07:00 AM
A new test doesn't mean they're doing nothing about the cheaters. It would actually show that they admit there was a problem with that test, i.e. the cheating. The cheaters need to be fired, ordered to pay back whatever they've illegally earned as a part of their stolen promotion, and charged criminally, along with the subject matter experts and other bosses who helped them cheat. Tarring and feathering is also on my list of things I'd like to see done to the cheaters, but I'll settle for the other stuff.
Rectal exams for the assholes in charge, oop's poop's they fail. Now go back to the rank you came from or deserve and start listening to the DOJ report, to many un- qualified promotions and hence bad or no leadership.
Sadly these test advisers will be listened to until they tell the City what their bill is and then they will be escorted out with the spin, we took their advice.
(OT) The best part of the story he had trouble with the law but he was turning his life around this is really funny shit:
11-year-old boy wounded, stepfather fatally shot while walking home from store
Man shot dead in Roseland neighborhood
A man was shot dead late Monday in the Roseland neighborhood on the city's Far South Side, police said. (Elvia Malagon / Chicago Tribune)
Chicago Tribune staffContact Reporter
Keshawn Slaughter had his share of trouble with the law, but his family says the 26-year-old was turning things around, getting a job and supporting his family.
Around 5:25 p.m. Monday, Slaughter and his 11-year-old stepson were walking home from the store in the 11600 block of South Bishop Street when a white car pulled up and someone inside opened fire, according to police.
four year degrees and many of our command staff were unable to score high enough on list to earn the promotion
cpd ed is way over his head
good copper , tactical sarge
do not think he eve wanted this spot
Ya gotta have built-in City Hall fookery in Chicago
Police promotional exams!
How do you expect "Clout" to perpetuate
and protect itself and it's various political
fiefdoms, chiefdoms, cliques, cabals and covens?
You're just asking for "trouble" if "too many"
unclouted, unconnected "nutrons" advance
to operational and policy-making positions
at CPD?
Somebody might fuck around and do the right
thing when there's a dirty political or media elite
ass the powers-that-be deem to be in need of
overt/covert covering and interference running
by CPD.
"Whadya mean that's IMPROPER?"
Wheezy says:
"The following statement ain't relevant"....Yeah but the problem is that all the cheaters from the Lt test got their promotions already. The only ones left are the legit guys and girls that would've made it if not for the cheaters and merit. Is it fair to tear it down now and screw over the people that actually probably know what they're doing out there?
4/11/2017 12:47:00 AM
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This statement is where te real issue remains:
Yeah but the problem is that all the cheaters from the Lt test got their promotions already. The only ones left are the legit guys and girls that would've made it if not for the cheaters and merit. Is it fair to tear it down now and screw over the people that actually probably know what they're doing out there?
4/11/2017 12:47:00 AM
Has anyone notice almost EVERY 1st and 3rd Watch Sgt from 010 have been promoted already? Between IAD and 010, they made up a big part of all new Lts. Places you should work if you want quick advancement in your career. (Or just join N.O.B.L.E., have relationship with an exempt, be born into a family, etc....).
The website said they conduct pre employment tests for police and fire departments. We just had a police entrance exam. They might have conducted it.
Yeah everyone forgets the fire department is in that building also. Who says it's a police test?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A lot of decent people are close to being promoted hopefully they'll make it. What a shame that merit have taken up over 100 spots off this exam. When a secretary gets meritoriously promoted by the person she works for that's a sign of how fucked up the merit system is. Most importantly will dejesus-dillon be eligible for a merit lt promotion?
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DeJesus-Dillon is the poster child of what's wrong with this department and promotions.
But the mission teams in 014 are a close second (Angelo, Utz, Slater,..........the further you go down the rabbit hole, the darker it gets)
That sounds great. Allow the recently promoted merit sergeants to receive a merit lieutenant promotion immediately after they not only received a free promotion, but a desired assignment and shift. Seems fair.
Make these exams based on study material and scantron, screw the "subject matter bullahit".
1:17AM...
Last 20 years?
Mayor Kennelly oredered an honest Sgts test in 1953.
The machine got rid of him and installed Daley in 1955.
The '93-'94 Sgts/Lts tests were pretty legit too because the Reagan appointed 7th circuit did away with race norming.
That's when Daley II pulled "merit" promotions out of his ass, but couldn't start making them until the '98 Sgts test due to litigation.
Figure you're really competing for 50% of the Sgts spots because 30% are "merit" and about 20% have the questions/answers.
Odds are worse for Lts because about 25-30% have answers/questions.
Tall mountain, but it can be done. Answer all essay questions as if you are a BLM activist and you have a good shot. Always show an eagerness to burn coppers and support protected groups. Lie. College kids grade this stuff and look for code words. All silly shit, beat em at their own game.
Get those stripes/bars and stick it up Rahm$ ass for as long as you can. Save your money, retire asap, enjoy life😊
The cheaters are too busy putting their Captain packets together and have the nerve to brag about it. The nerve of you to leave work early to work on your packet. The nerve of you to work on your packet during work hours knowing you are a part of a cheating scandal. A slap in the face to us who worked our a-- off to make Lieutenant.
Promotional test aren't grievable.
So what exactly would this accomplish???
All the cheaters have already been promoted, this will just punish the honest ones who studied and are waiting to get promoted.
The damage has already been done. Certain groups were able to get "their people" in place with the Lt scandal. Now, these chosen ones are in the driver's seat for exempt rank promotions and further decimation of the police department.
And who are MCCANN & ASSOC?
Any relation to politically connected, lots of good paying political jobs Eddie McCann?
How much is this firm being paid? What is their background in test giving? Who HIRED them?
Lots of questions......all of the CPD unions need to get some answers.......
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I don't know where you get your info from. But tests are not grievable. So no union has any intention of filing anything .
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Do you have your head in the sand??? PBPA filed papers months ago when the cheating accusation was made. Feel free to call the PBPA and ask.
It would be nice if McCann Assoc. was hired an outside Goverment contractor sent on behalf of the USAG to investigate the last exam process and the scores.
The Det & Sgt Exams were dumbed up, but still they have to pass up high scores for Merits. The Exams are still drafted by Subject Matter Experts, which is made up with insider Merits anyway.
Can a Non-Police Outsider firm create an Exam based on General Orders and Policy? Yes, it's done all the time.
But what's the point of an 2-Part Exam if there's allowable cheating (for some) and predetermined Merit Spots (the ones who were made by long gone Exempts and ones promoted for their dedication to duty 10 yrs. ago).
Agree, exams are not grievable and trying to prove you were passed over "by score" isn't enough even with a cheating allegation. The City won't demote and the only action possible is a lawsuit if the cheating allegation can be proved. So maybe 5-6 Sgts whose spots are being occupied by cheating insiders have to wait for the outcome of the Internal Investigation (d'oh!) and then maybe in 5 years a settlement can be reached.
This is Rahm's Department and he calls the shots.
If there's anything to this, it could mean that there will be no further promotions this year.
If there was Cheating on the Lt Exam then all the Exams for Sgt and Det were compromised by the Subject Matter Experts as well.
A New Outside developed Sgt & Lt exam would come probably before the end of the year...Rahm's way of making an impression on you, the DOJ and the underserved community in 2018 - his Campaign Kickoff year.
Should be some openings soon at O'Hare Aviation Security. Anyone who has unfortunately had dealings with them realizes they are the Kim Jung Un of Law Enforcement, complete with Wickey Wacky hairdos.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Please let there be a new sgts exam I missed the last test by 2 months senority! I'm tired of calling all my friends sir and seeing them get promoted to white shirts!
4/11/2017 12:33:00 AM
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I still address my friends that made Sgt. the same way I addressed them before they got made. If you have a friend that prefers you address them by rank, they're a real hump that takes this job way to seriously & personal.
Couple of things.
One the Sgt.rank list promoted is hovering in the 270-ish zone. Past practices have the list going up over 400 except one test it ended around 370-ish.
Also, IO Solutions, didn't drop the ball. If there is PROVEN cheating it will fall mainly on the shoulders of the SME'S.
The company was chosen for its tests and for defending the results in court. Thats how many of these companies are chosen.
Stop with the rumors. CPD is not giving a promotion exam this year. Most likely it wants to give them every 5 years. These tests cost alot of money. Money that RE doesn't want to budget unless he needs to. Check next years budget or most likely 2019-ish. Even if they schedule something for 2018....there will most likely be another 1-2 big sgts classes from this test. So at least another 100 off the list. After that I'm guessing it will come down to replacing retirements.
Please let there be a new sgts exam I missed the last test by 2 months senority! I'm tired of calling all my friends sir and seeing them get promoted to white shirts!
4/11/2017 12:33:00 AM
Hmmm. Well junior wait your turn like everyone else. Also, its unlikely ALL your friends ( unless you have less than 5) scored high enough to be promoted within the last sgts test without some "Help". Its almost as bad as an entire tact team ranking under 300....or a husband and wife scoring 1 & 2 on a lt.'s test.
Also the list has been up 3 years so far and arent even at 300 promoted off the LIST. I know people want to get promoted but consider for example if they only promote 300 off the list from now on....that means only 300 people make it off the list out of 4500 test takers. The merit people,in this case of 300 list people would equate to 90 POLITICAL HACKS. 30% are merit. So take in the people with "help" or secret study groups or basically those super cops that are given the test questions from bosses and boom.....we are fighting for 100-150 spots. So the people who sacrifice, study, and pay for study groups ( groups open to anyone i.e. bernstein) are fighting for scraps.
How well dressed were they?
SCC, thanks for the heads up. Now to join Noble.
What's going to happen to Wheezie and her cadre of cheating, thieving Lie-Tenants????
Just last month in the departments, 'reform moving forward guide', they said many more supervisors will be promoted this year. I'm guessing the sgts list will remain up and highly doubt the city would take down the Lts list. If they do they'd be admitting to the corruption and cheating on that test. Also they would be screwing the sgts that are close that studied their butts off.
4/11/2017 09:16:00 AM
The Lt's list is actually towards it's traditional ends far a numbers promoted. Sgt's list probably has another 200 left in it.
Has anyone notice almost EVERY 1st and 3rd Watch Sgt from 010 have been promoted already? Between IAD and 010, they made up a big part of all new Lts. Places you should work if you want quick advancement in your career. (Or just join N.O.B.L.E., have relationship with an exempt, be born into a family, etc.
To top that off we got stuck with Anagrones merit sgt secretary. Afraid of her own shadow and think she knows everything. Trust me if you did you would have made it off score.
(OT) the stench of the failed obama crew $30,000 speaking fee from this girl?:
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/valerie-jarrett-wont-charge-neiu-for-graduation-speech/
Now she waved that outrageous fee because school is broke (thanks obama), she did nothing but cause trouble in white house just go away all of them let President trump show these cowards what real leadership is!
Please let there be a new sgts exam I missed the last test by 2 months senority! I'm tired of calling all my friends sir and seeing them get promoted to white shirts!
4/11/2017 12:33:00 AM
You never call anyone sir or mam on this job. Either call them by there first name or nothing at all. Of course you have the morons that call everone "BOSS". We dont work a chain gang in Louisiana.
"""With the possible exception of the entrance exam which is highly suspect, all CPD exams have a cloud of suspicion hanging over them, look no further than who's been promoted over the last 20 years.""
When they let every half wit cheat on tests just to get thru the academy didnt it occur to you then that this was a common practice ?
4/11/2017 09:25:00 AM"
Put down the Malort Dick w/ears, I said possible exception, I seen the strokes pass the firearms, & the Gym on those magical Saturday Mornings so save your sarcasm for Towel Boys at Steamworx Hump.
"Get over JanAshley. Yes she was merit. Yes we know the family. However when it comes to merit she is extremely competent. Your focus should be on the merits who don't know and don't care about the job. She actually takes the position seriously and is knowledgeable.
4/11/2017 07:46:00 AM"
Sincerely , Jan Robarts-Dillon AKA MOMMY
NOBODY should get more than one merit bump in their career !!!! There's really no justifiable reason for people getting multiple merit promotions in my opinion
Get over JanAshley. Yes she was merit. Yes we know the family. However when it comes to merit she is extremely competent. Your focus should be on the merits who don't know and don't care about the job. She actually takes the position seriously and is knowledgeable.
Bullshit I worked with her, she is not deserving of all this attention, typical merit hack.
Small class of Lt coming up in may somewhere between 20-25. They are giving 10 identified cheaters the opportunity to retire and save pension or face firing and official misconduct charges. Plus another dozen or so to keep up with end of year retirements. May has a bunch of retirements coming up.
WeeZee already got answers for next exam from rerun
It's time for the Sgt Assoc to move forward with a lawsuit on this cheating scandal. If they don't, none of them better be running for re-election anytime soon!
(OT) this policy from AG Sessions during the Trump era:
A memo Sessions issued Tuesday calls for federal attorneys to consider prosecution of anyone who harbors undocumented immigrants, with a priority given to violent cases or those that involve transporting or shielding three or more undocumented immigrants. Sessions also instructed the Justice Department to pursue felony charges when applicable for immigrants who try to enter the U.S. illegally on multiple occasions.
Would that be like the elected in Chicago violation of federal immigration laws is that harbor is? President Trump will keep his word wonder when the federal hammer will drop in Chicago?
JD did nothing of merit or noteable except to be related to mommy
"Get over JanAshley. Yes she was merit. Yes we know the family. However when it comes to merit she is extremely competent. Your focus should be on the merits who don't know and don't care about the job. She actually takes the position seriously and is knowledgeable.
4/11/2017 07:46:00 AM"
You've got that right. She was one of the top 23 district intelligence officers. Was that work that got her meritoriously promoted or her outstanding work in detective school?
Get rid of Subject Matter Experts.
Stop weighing questions and stop weighing answers.
Stop any form of standardizations or race norming.
Stop the oral.
No exemptions or special privilege for an applicant to take the test off site (the Casey Rule).
Only employee# and thumb print on the score sheet to I.D. the applicant.
Silly Goose
STOP STOP THE MADNESS Lets just have a huge-ass glass jar of rainbow colored jelly beans with like a brazilian beans inside at Millennium Park. The top 200 closest guesses of how many beans in the jar get promoted in rank order.
That would so accurately Reflect Rahms Chicago values
Has anyone notice almost EVERY 1st and 3rd Watch Sgt from 010 have been promoted already? Between IAD and 010, they made up a big part of all new Lts. Places you should work if you want quick advancement in your career. (Or just join N.O.B.L.E., have relationship with an exempt, be born into a family, etc....).
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Jan Ashley Dillion De Jesus made merit Sgt and is in our 010.... all makes sense now.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
WeeZee already got answers for next exam from rerun
4/11/2017 08:49:00 PM
It's the same answer to every question:
"On the advise of my counsel I invoke my 5th Amendment protections and will not answer this question".
010 dumping district for merit hacks...GC 3X merit hack ...
You want to know what the problem is? This @sshole who posted this crap.....
Get over JanAshley. Yes she was merit. Yes we know the family. However when it comes to merit she is extremely competent. Your focus should be on the merits who don't know and don't care about the job. She actually takes the position seriously and is knowledgeable.
4/11/2017 07:46:00 AM
So merit's Ok as long as your not a total @sshole about it? You already lost if thats your attitude.
Jan Ashley Dillion De Jesus made merit Sgt and is in our 010.... all makes sense now.
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When she leaves in June to be an admin sgt in some unit she'll have her West Side Stories, "O...M...G!!!! When I worked in 010....."
Figure you're really competing for 50% of the Sgts spots because 30% are "merit" and about 20% have the questions/answers.
Odds are worse for Lts because about 25-30% have answers/questions.
Yes I found the answers for three tests- they were hidden in the Gen orders, Special orders ect. Dont ever not take a test dummy your on this job for a long time.
Hopefully a new lieutenant test is in the works. The newest merit sergeants have already accomplished enough to warrant another merit bump. Especially the ones who secured an inside gig on days. They might be suitable to go straight to gold star status.
Stop the cheaters now! One more day with that idiot fenner is more then we can take! save us!
All Knowing said...
A promotion list is not dead until there is a new list and the city starts promoting off of that list. The Lt's list has been out barely a year and has a lot of life left in it. Yes, I know that they are up to 100 on the list and historically,on average, a list is stale at 100 but the last list lasted until they reached 148 in rank order. The development, administering and grading of a promotional exam costs millions of dollars and Rahm has better things to do with tax payer funds. Yes, I know all about the allegations of cheating. Those allegations will remain just that, ALLEGATIONS. John Northern had video taped evidence that went no where. Rahm has the DOJ report that he going to use as a road map to reform the Department. One of the problems identified in the report was the concept of span of control or in other words lack of supervision. The current budgeted strength for the rank of Lt is 274 which may increase. When you see the actual strength get down to 240 or 250 expect a class of 30. The city is not going to allow the actual strength to drop more than that during the reformation of the Department. Yes there will be another exam probably 2 years from now and a list approximately 1 year after that. Take it to the bank.
This Jan Ashley doesn't even have 10 years on no way you should be made merit Sgt with less then say 15 years. Departments a joke.
It's time for the Sgt Assoc to move forward with a lawsuit on this cheating scandal. If they don't, none of them better be running for re-election anytime soon!
4/11/2017 09:39:00 PM
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Right
Another lawsuit that goes NOWHERE.
The LAST lawsuit against the lieutenants exam in 2007 ran the association over $93,000.
How'd that work out for ya?
FOP , PBPA fight to end this corrupt merit system
Small class of Lt coming up in may somewhere between 20-25. They are giving 10 identified cheaters the opportunity to retire and save pension or face firing and official misconduct charges. Plus another dozen or so to keep up with end of year retirements. May has a bunch of retirements coming up.
We all know that this is not true! The Lts are already filled to authorized strength. While there may be 2 or 3 Lts budgeted openings, there is no way there will be enough Lt openings until the beginning of next year, and that is at the soonest!
And "they" are not giving any of the suspected cheaters anything, except for a pass!
Re...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Please let there be a new sgts exam I missed the last test by 2 months senority! I'm tired of calling all my friends sir and seeing them get promoted to white shirts!
4/11/2017 12:33:00 AM
You never call anyone sir or mam on this job. Either call them by there first name or nothing at all. Of course you have the morons that call everone "BOSS". We dont work a chain gang in Louisiana.
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So what do you call the commander of your district? Yeah, it easy being a street tough behind your computer- you're probably the handjob that gets the Lt coffee or lunch every day.
" here's the Starbucks 'boss' extra cream like we like it".
You never call anyone sir or mam on this job. Either call them by there first name or nothing at all. Of course you have the morons that call everone "BOSS". We dont work a chain gang in Louisiana.
4/11/2017 06:09:00 PM
And, you can kiss my ass, Officer. You are a big part of the problem.
You never call anyone sir or mam on this job. Either call them by there first name or nothing at all. Of course you have the morons that call everone "BOSS". We dont work a chain gang in Louisiana.
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Clearly this guy is either a fireman, or a handjob. I'm guessing both. Or by the way he speaks, he is an entitled millennial who can do whatever he wants whenever he wants because its always his way everyday.
All Knowing said...
A promotion list is not dead until there is a new list and the city starts promoting off of that list. The Lt's list has been out barely a year and has a lot of life left in it. Yes, I know that they are up to 100 on the list and historically,on average, a list is stale at 100 but the last list lasted until they reached 148 in rank order. The development, administering and grading of a promotional exam costs millions of dollars and Rahm has better things to do with tax payer funds. Yes, I know all about the allegations of cheating. Those allegations will remain just that, ALLEGATIONS. John Northern had video taped evidence that went no where. Rahm has the DOJ report that he going to use as a road map to reform the Department. One of the problems identified in the report was the concept of span of control or in other words lack of supervision. The current budgeted strength for the rank of Lt is 274 which may increase. When you see the actual strength get down to 240 or 250 expect a class of 30. The city is not going to allow the actual strength to drop more than that during the reformation of the Department. Yes there will be another exam probably 2 years from now and a list approximately 1 year after that. Take it to the bank.
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you forgot to mention about john northern being a jealous big mouth who got destroyed on AM radio when he tried to call out J Fled.. Not only did he get destroyed, but embarrassed.
You never call anyone sir or mam on this job. Either call them by there first name or nothing at all. Of course you have the morons that call everone "BOSS". We dont work a chain gang in Louisiana.
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Clearly this guy is either a fireman, or a handjob. I'm guessing both. Or by the way he speaks, he is an entitled millennial who can do whatever he wants whenever he wants because its always his way everyday.
4/12/2017 11:55:00 PM
Wrong on all fronts jagoff, I'm a GenXer who respects a person not the rank. This isn't the military. Too many scumbag supervisors who don't deserve any admiration or respect.
You never call anyone sir or mam on this job. Either call them by there first name or nothing at all. Of course you have the morons that call everone "BOSS". We dont work a chain gang in Louisiana.
4/11/2017 06:09:00 PM
And, you can kiss my ass, Officer. You are a big part of the problem.
4/12/2017 07:30:00 PM
And by big part of the problem do you mean I dont call you BOSS or sir to stroke your ego?
You never call anyone sir or mam on this job. Either call them by there first name or nothing at all. Of course you have the morons that call everone "BOSS". We dont work a chain gang in Louisiana.
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So what do you call the commander of your district? Yeah, it easy being a street tough behind your computer- you're probably the handjob that gets the Lt coffee or lunch every day.
" here's the Starbucks 'boss' extra cream like we like it".
4/12/2017 07:16:00 PM
I don't call the commander anything because I don't ask him for anything. It sounds like you're well versed in how the peasants should treat the gentry.
You never call anyone sir or mam on this job. Either call them by there first name or nothing at all. Of course you have the morons that call everone "BOSS". We dont work a chain gang in Louisiana.
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Clearly this guy is either a fireman, or a handjob. I'm guessing both. Or by the way he speaks, he is an entitled millennial who can do whatever he wants whenever he wants because its always his way everyday.
4/12/2017 11:55:00 PM
Wrong on all fronts jagoff, I'm a GenXer who respects a person not the rank. This isn't the military. Too many scumbag supervisors who don't deserve any admiration or respect.
4/13/2017 06:06:00 AM
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You had me at Gen xer. It explains a ton. It's ok, just like the millenials it's not your fault, it's clearly your parents fault. You're just a product of the rebellious 60s crowd that destroyed this country along with the youth of this country making exceptionally soft generations such as generation X. I hope you weren't trying to impress anyone saying you are generation X because you and you're parents are the reason this country is so screwed up.. as we can tell by your attitude, rebellion and lack of respect for anyone who is in a position of authority over you.. yes gen xer, I said it THEY ARE IN A POSITION OVER YOU. Usually a trigger for people like you. Yes, there is a chain of command in life and in the police department. In the police department me and you(I assume u have a blue shirt like me) are at the bottom of the Rosen pole. Just like in a business, if you work in the mail room you are a nobody and you call the CEO sir out of respect. I'm sure you had time outs as a kid....
Wrong on all fronts jagoff, I'm a GenXer who respects a person not the rank. This isn't the military. Too many scumbag supervisors who don't deserve any admiration or respect.
4/13/2017 06:06:00 AM
Holy shit. Did you honestly just refer to yourself as a "GenXer?" That's just sad. Whether a supervisor deserves admiration or respect in your eyes, you have to accept the fact that they outrank you. When your commander walks by you and says hello, do you say "Hey Jimmy! How's it hanging bro?" Do you ignore him? You talk a big game on here, but when a "boss" decides to talk to your sorry ass for some reason, there's no chance that attitude carries over into real life. If you want to pretend it does, grow a pair and call your lieutenant by his first name. Tell one of your supervisors that they don't deserve your respect. See how far that gets you. We all know you won't do it, out of fear. So don't pretend on here. GenXer! Lol! It's like the title of a really lame comic book. You're somehow worse than a millennial. And you are a fucking handjob.
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