Multiple Pensions
Question:
- Does anyone know how many pensions (and how much they are) that Prickwrinkle collects?
- How about Shortshanks? We know he collects multiples;
- Do these thieves collect Social Security, too?
- Other politicians who are double or triple-dipping?
If investigative reporting is dead, then citizens have to pick up some of the slack, and crowd-sourcing information is as good a method as any.
Labels: money questions
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
76 Comments:
Shanks has three, state, county and city. Thats the most you could possibly have. If someone has those three plus a federal pension well may god bless them because you'll probably be dead before you can enjoy all that money.
It should be public knowledge since the tax payers are footing the bill
How the fuck did the Daleys enter politics poor and retire millionaires ?
Can we start the investigation there ???
What'd you say Kass?
Slightly OT:
Speaking of double-dipping, Tina Skahill is back collecting a hefty civilian salary while also receiving her generous exempt pension. It seems as though the media attention exposing the likes of Shear, O'Neill, Roussell, and Hickey didn't stop the practice. The scam continues, and clout wins out.
Marvin Shear. Ancient fuck collecting for two. Creep.
http://www.urban.org/policy-centers/cross-center-initiatives/state-local-finance-initiative/projects/state-and-local-backgrounders/state-and-local-government-pensions
Illinois has 650 different pension plans. New York has 6.
RICHARD M DALEY State Employees (SRS) $136,365 20 5/17/2011
Richard M Daley State Employees (SRS) $132,393 20 2016
Richard M Daley Judges/Legislators $128,537 20 5/17/2011
Richard M Daley Judges/Legislators $128,537 20 5/17/2011
Richard M Daley Judges/Legislators $124,793 20 5/17/2011
PATRICK J QUINN State Employees (SRS) $137,163 16 1/13/2015
Patrick J Quinn Judges/Legislators $133,168 16 2016
Patrick J Quinn Judges/Legislators $129,289 16 1/13/2015
JAMES R EDGAR State Employees (SRS) $161,021 20 7/22/2001 2017
James R Edgar State Employees (SRS) $156,331 20 2016
James R Edgar Judges/Legislators $151,778 20 7/22/2001 2015
James R Edgar Judges/Legislators $147,357 20 7/22/2001 2014
James R Edgar Judges/Legislators $143,065 20 7/22/2001 2013
IMOTHY EVANS Chicago Municipal Employees (MEABF) $34,967 22 7/14/2014
Timothy Evans Chicago Municipal Employees (MEABF) $33,949 22 2016
Timothy Evans Chicago Municipal Employees (MEABF) $32,296 22 7/14/2014
http://www.bettergov.org/news/bga-updates-expands-two-free-databases
Two articles from Chicago Tribune explain pensions: 1." How Daley beefed up his pension payouts "(dated 2 May 12). 2. "Generous rules govern aldermen's pensions" (dated 1 May 12). Revealing articles.
Rahm Emanuel was senior advisor to Clinton 1993 to 1998, US congressman from Illinois 2003 to 2009 and chief of staff to Obama 2009 to 2010 where he was making $172,000.00. He put in 12 yrs 10 months. A congressman only needs to put in 5 years for a pension which he can start collecting at 62. If you want to see how much he will be making go to opm.gov it will explain it. And congressmen get full social security benefits as they paid into it. Could not find out from the city's "transparent" website how much he will get when he leaves. But as I remember aldermen did not have to put in 20 yrs like the rest of us. If I remember correctly they could do 10. Now Prepwrinkle was an alderwoman and wasn't she a school teacher before that? Could she still be paying into those funds as well as the county? Didnt Daley do that with the state, county and city?
I believe Shortshanks gets 3 pensions for a total of about $180,000 a year.
He also was given a few six figure jobs upon his retirement.
Of course Rahm still allows Shanks to have a city car and armed butlers at his disposal.
Check out Alderman spat O'Conner and the pensions his family are receiving! (40th Ward) oh and check out how much his wife has made in real estate
I would guess that ex-governor Edgar and Quinn probably collect more than one pension in addition to Social Security.
A retired cop has their social security benifit cut. If that's fair then what is?
Wow! Six hundred and fifty pension plans in Illinois! Are all of these plans funded by taxpayers? Is the state supposed to contribute to every one of them? Wow!
The politicians will get theirs and get out before anyone else does, bet on that.
J.J.
The bought and paid for chicago media will never expose the political mafia!
How about tricky Dickey Durban the "Turban". He is and has been collecting full Social Security pay over 25,000.00 while collecting his full congressional salary and his wife collects full social security of over 25,000 a year and she gets her salary of over 130,000 a year as a lobbyist in Washington.
Pulse ask him what his current medical plan is and what his future medical plan is.
Remember if your the police the Democrates are your friend. They took your social security now they want your pension.
Do they even thank us?
Harry S.Truman...."Anybody who gets rich in public service is a plain old fashioned crook!"
What about Tom Bryne, Police, Street and Sans and the Park District?
Dennis Hastert is in a half-way house
in Chicago. Ask him about his pension.
If the population of Chicago is decreasing, why do we need as many Aldermen. When the population in a state declines they get fewer U.S. Representatives and a reduction in State Representatives and Senators. At what point do we bleed off enough population from the city to lose a couple of Aldermen. We already have about 25 more than we need. BGA, where are you?
Superintendent Johnson's COS Chief RUSSELL is 74 years old and collects 1) commander pension even though its on hold until he retires from his 170,000 a year job,but he knows he is locked in because Ed cannot make a decision on his own to save his life,Plus he get one from being in the navy....Hey Russell,retire before you drop dead in the shitter....
With all that money who needs friends in a democratic society?
I thought Shanks ended up with some armed security guards and a used Lincoln town car after Rahm pulled his Cpd detail ?
The reason Daley and others can collect hefty multiple pensions is due to Emil Jones when he was an Illinois State Senator. He passed a Bill in the early '90s allowing buying back time from previous gov jobs if you weren't in those jobs long enough to receive a pension. Daley found out about it and then told the aldercreatures. Springfield passed that Bill will little fanfare in order to not alert the public and receive the public's ire. Daley and all the other Illinois POS pols bought back their time in the public offices they held had they been those jobs for 20 or 30 years or whatever the requirement was to be eligible to receive a pension. I believe that Bill was eventually repealed sometime before 2011, I could be wrong, but the damage was already done.
Another reason Illinois is fucking broke.
It's about time for the hot lights
to shine on Toni "Big Shoes"
Preckwinkle and her grifting ways.
Let us not forget that triple threat Ron Huberman: CPS, CPD, CTA.
What about midget Tom Byrne and Napoleon S&S Charles Williams
What about the crooked 26th ward Maldo-fuck?
He gets $6000.00 monthly for life from the crook county commissioners job
And now about to collect Alder-thief pension.
Besides all the money that he has forced from the developers!
Daley receives $502 per day, every day in pensions from the state, county and city governments. This is on top of his 1/2 or so from his no show job at the law firm and another 1/2 mill or do from various corporate boards he was put on as (most likely) as payment for favors granted.
Not bad for a feeble, ill, old man who isn't well enough to give depositions
Daley gets at least 3 pensions City-County-State plus dividends from crooked assets he's amassed.
PorkWinkle is due for at least 2 pensions City-County so far.
Rahm is due at least 3 pensions City, State, Fed and maybe 1 more for his WH position.
Either way, these fuckers are going to see six-figures from each pension fund they hold.
If they deplete or bankrupt The City Pension Fund then Daley-Rahm-PorkWinkle still have something to fall back on, except that the State is more likely to fail first...but They won't allow that.
So far there's no rules governing how much and from whom one can collect a pension - except the government.
Which makes the argument of Double-Triple dipping.
You generally lose most of your Social Security payments for having a government job.
Your argument is having 2 or more Goverment Jobs, that one or more pensions the payment should be decreased or eliminated.
That's fair...especially for an Elected Official - Public Servant.
Greed precedes Reason.
For the record, President Trump (donates his Presidential salary) is looking to change the Federal Retirement System.
One of the biggest scams of governmental service in Illinois, as well as many other states, is the practice of double (or triple, etc) dipping when it comes to collecting pensions and/or paychecks.
And it doesn't have to apply just to collecting multiple pensions, it's any combination of collecting one government check while simultaneously being paid by some other government entity, whether it be collecting two pensions, two paychecks, or any combination thereof.
If they really want to tackle the pension mess, the first thing they need to do is outlaw double dipping. It's a disgrace.
Marvin Shear. Ancient fuck collecting for two. Creep.
7/18/2017 01:01:00 AM
The word at HQ is that he is running out his substantial medical time before finally retiring, all while still collecting a sworn pension and an exempt salary as a civilian deputy chief. Supposedly he has a heart problem. It's a problem for sure, but it isn't medical. It's evil.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Shanks has three, state, county and city. Thats the most you could possibly have. If someone has those three plus a federal pension well may god bless them because you'll probably be dead before you can enjoy all that money.
7/18/2017 12:09:00 AM
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You left out federal, even though Daley doesn't collect one of those. Has anybody ever hit the Superfecta of pension collection by adding a federal pension into their till?
He should be in jail but he is a RAT for the government case closed
Just ridiculous, also why does rahms and the city clerks plus the city treasurers detail all get sergeants pay up to commanders pay rate and then gets that rate out of pension while all are nothing but 9161 (patrolmen?. It will never change even though rahm sent out that "everything is great" pension letter this guy is starting to believe his lies as real!
how about thew big j-goff fat phil , his pension and money from the police memorial
President The Donald will soon sign executive order saying that Illinois politicians can only get one pension because they suck so badly.
Incumbent Firing Formula:
Identify Incumbent name on ballot
If Incumbent name is listed FIRST....vote for whoever is listed LAST
OR
If Incumbent name is NOT listed First.....vote for whoever IS listed FIRST
Kick the anthill
Kick it.....hard......
Math makes term limits real.......
Superintendent Johnson's COS Chief RUSSELL is 74 years old and collects 1) commander pension even though its on hold until he retires from his 170,000 a year job, but he knows he is locked in because Ed cannot make a decision on his own to save his life, plus he get one from being in the navy....Hey Russell, retire before you drop dead in the shitter....
7/18/2017 09:25:00 AM
Pension on hold?
Don't worry folks, when the state, county, and city pension funds become insolvent the hypocrites will get hit 2-3 times as much as the average pensioneer.
Marvin Shear. Ancient fuck collecting for two. Creep.
7/18/2017 01:01:00 AM
The word at HQ is that he is running out his substantial medical time before finally retiring, all while still collecting a sworn pension and an exempt salary as a civilian deputy chief. Supposedly he has a heart problem. It's a problem for sure, but it isn't medical. It's evil.
7/18/2017 01:02:00 PM
iad should ask how many irs forms he signed during tax time. too sick for cpd. not too sick to work at his tax business. con-man.
If you think there is investigative reporting, look at Rahm ass kisser andy shaw whose son in law is crooked Chris Hayes from MSNBC. Rahm gave Shaw's daughter a kid in the White House and their kids middle name is Emanuel. Check it out.
That's why the Midget Mike Quigley jumped over to Congress as soon as he was vested in the county pension.
What is Shear's lackey Tony going to do when the old man retires? He already gets a sworn pension and a paycheck for being a District Administrative Manager, which is a position which was eliminated years ago when all of the others were laid off. Now he answers phones and fetches Marv's lunch at a DAM's salary. That scam borders on criminal.
how about Daley & Madigans pals, the Double-Dipper Union Officials ? How about some additional investigation, pokey Feds? You know they are dirty already. Why the delay ?
Are You All crooked too ? Your Leader, Comey was.
Monique bond is working on a pile of pensions worthy of a king.
Anonymous said...
The reason Daley and others can collect hefty multiple pensions is due to Emil Jones when he was an Illinois State Senator. He passed a Bill in the early '90s allowing buying back time from previous gov jobs if you weren't in those jobs long enough to receive a pension. Daley found out about it and then told the aldercreatures. Springfield passed that Bill will little fanfare in order to not alert the public and receive the public's ire. Daley and all the other Illinois POS pols bought back their time in the public offices they held had they been those jobs for 20 or 30 years or whatever the requirement was to be eligible to receive a pension. I believe that Bill was eventually repealed sometime before 2011, I could be wrong, but the damage was already done.
Another reason Illinois is fucking broke.
7/18/2017 10:54:00 AM
And yet we get Fu$ked on social Security. I Hope Dan (Stamps) Rostenkowski is in Hell getting but fu$ked by a hot iron poker for eternity.
I'm on pension and I never got rahmie's letter. Maybe he ran out of stamp money?
Marvin Shear. Ancient fuck collecting for two. Creep.
7/18/2017 01:01:00 AM
The word at HQ is that he is running out his substantial medical time before finally retiring, all while still collecting a sworn pension and an exempt salary as a civilian deputy chief. Supposedly he has a heart problem. It's a problem for sure, but it isn't medical. It's evil.
7/18/2017 01:02:00 PM
iad should ask how many irs forms he signed during tax time. too sick for cpd. not too sick to work at his tax business. con-man.
7/18/2017 06:34:00 PM
He's too sick to come to work, although he's got a couple listings as a tax preparer:
Marvin Shear
1). SHEAR TAX SERVICE
1305 S Michigan
Chicago, IL 60605
Phone (312) 208-6200
2). Marvin J. Shear
Shear Tax Service
65 E Scott Street, Apt 12 A
Chicago, IL 60610
United States
312-225-3379
IAD - are you out there? Here's the information you need to get you started, right here on a public forum.
Don't forget one of their key cronies in Big Labor, Dennis '3peat' Gannon, retired head of Chicago AFL-CIO. I believe he is pulling down 3 pensions for a cool $500,000 a year. He's for the little guy, so it's OK. It's just that some pigs are more equal than others. ;)
Anonymous said...
Superintendent Johnson's COS Chief RUSSELL is 74 years old and collects 1) commander pension even though its on hold until he retires from his 170,000 a year job, but he knows he is locked in because Ed cannot make a decision on his own to save his life, plus he get one from being in the navy....Hey Russell, retire before you drop dead in the shitter....
7/18/2017 09:25:00 AM
Pension on hold?
7/18/2017 05:31:00 PM
Hey Dickhead ... first off, it's James Roussell, not "Russell." Secondly, he's 67 years old, not 74 but to you hair-gels, anyone over 30 is old. Thirdly, his police pension isn't "on hold." He collects it. Finally, he was a Marine and was deployed three times to Iraq & Afghanistan so whatever he gets from there he earned. I'm not the biggest Roussell fan but he's about the only guy up there who knows what the fuck he's doing with the current regime in place. Go back to reading comic books and let the adults converse here.
What about the clown FORREST CLAYPOOL
Old Bill Lipinski worked for the Chicago Pard District (pension?), then he was an alderman (pension?), and then he became a US Congressman (pension?). Then he slid his son into his congressional seat. Ah that Madigan crowd.
Crony capitalism at its best:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-09-21/news/ct-met-pensions-gannon-20110922_1_terrance-stefanski-city-pension-public-pension
BTW, Gannon was a half-assed PoS linebacker at St. Laurence. Much more accomplished as a crony capitalist.
Anonymous said...
Superintendent Johnson's COS Chief RUSSELL is 74 years old and collects 1) commander pension even though its on hold until he retires from his 170,000 a year job, but he knows he is locked in because Ed cannot make a decision on his own to save his life, plus he get one from being in the navy....Hey Russell, retire before you drop dead in the shitter....
Hey moron the pension is not on hold he is collecting ...plus he collecting his navy pension and making 170 a year walking around 35th looking pretty ...u do the math he is making close or over 300k a year...what the hell else is he going to do thats how u build wealth for your family trust me I saw him a couple of months ago he looks good im sure he vacations where he wants and eats steak dinner every night while putting 150 or 200k every year...lets hope we all get such a great opportunity you freaking hater!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If you think there is investigative reporting, look at Rahm ass kisser andy shaw whose son in law is crooked Chris Hayes from MSNBC. Rahm gave Shaw's daughter a kid in the White House and their kids middle name is Emanuel. Check it out.
7/18/2017 06:38:00 PM
Personal life[edit]
Hayes is married to Kate Shaw, assistant professor of law at Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law;[36] his father-in-law is veteran Chicago reporter Andy Shaw.[37] Hayes and Shaw resided in Washington, D.C., until they moved to New York City, where All in With Chris Hayes is produced.[38] Their daughter, Ryan Elizabeth Shaw-Hayes, was born in November 2011.[39] Their son, David Emanuel Shaw-Hayes, was born in March 2014.[40]
Anonymous said...
Let us not forget that triple threat Ron Huberman: CPS, CPD, CTA.
7/18/2017 11:14:00 AM
Shields stopped Huberman from getting a CPD pension.
Anonymous said...
Marvin Shear. Ancient fuck collecting for two. Creep.
7/18/2017 01:01:00 AM
The word at HQ is that he is running out his substantial medical time before finally retiring, all while still collecting a sworn pension and an exempt salary as a civilian deputy chief. Supposedly he has a heart problem. It's a problem for sure, but it isn't medical. It's evil.
7/18/2017 01:02:00 PM
iad should ask how many irs forms he signed during tax time. too sick for cpd. not too sick to work at his tax business. con-man.
7/18/2017 06:34:00 PM
He's too sick to come to work, although he's got a couple listings as a tax preparer:
Marvin Shear
1). SHEAR TAX SERVICE
1305 S Michigan
Chicago, IL 60605
Phone (312) 208-6200
2). Marvin J. Shear
Shear Tax Service
65 E Scott Street, Apt 12 A
Chicago, IL 60610
United States
312-225-3379
IAD - are you out there? Here's the information you need to get you started, right here on a public forum.
7/18/2017 09:23:00 PM
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1. For the Michigan location, 479 returns filed for 2016, average fee in the area is
$296....
2. For the Scott location, 0 returns filed for 2016 (no returns filed for previous years), could be a new location, average fee in the area is $296....
You are welcome.
Dennis Gannon zteered the outside tradesman to Blue Cross/Blue Shield for their health insurance. BCBS put him on their board and pays him $170,000 per year.
Please stop with Roussell. He's not a bad guy but he is another example of what's wrong with this department . Collecting s 6 figure pension with a six figure salary? Nope not that special ...... and there are lots of officers who have served multiple tours and don't even get on merit bite .
What about Beatrice?
If Russell in getting anNavy pension god bless him. To officially retire, collect a pension and then hired back is bs. There are plenty of people in line for these spots. That's just greedy, because you have clout your going to take advantage. If your that fricken smart go get a public sector job.
uh-oh. shear just stepped into the ilcs zone. scamming the taxpayer's money is not received well. he better hope they can come up with a federal charge, otherwise, any time served will be in a state penitentiary and the state penitentiaries tend to house a tougher, more primitive crowd and, say it isn't so, there is no driving range.
don't forget the gravy train cta boys
rueben madrigal paid a small price for a large pension at cta.
now he's some boss at oemc.
its all legit
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Marvin Shear. Ancient fuck collecting for two. Creep.
7/18/2017 01:01:00 AM
The word at HQ is that he is running out his substantial medical time before finally retiring, all while still collecting a sworn pension and an exempt salary as a civilian deputy chief. Supposedly he has a heart problem. It's a problem for sure, but it isn't medical. It's evil.
7/18/2017 01:02:00 PM
iad should ask how many irs forms he signed during tax time. too sick for cpd. not too sick to work at his tax business. con-man.
7/18/2017 06:34:00 PM
He's too sick to come to work, although he's got a couple listings as a tax preparer:
Marvin Shear
1). SHEAR TAX SERVICE
1305 S Michigan
Chicago, IL 60605
Phone (312) 208-6200
2). Marvin J. Shear
Shear Tax Service
65 E Scott Street, Apt 12 A
Chicago, IL 60610
United States
312-225-3379
IAD - are you out there? Here's the information you need to get you started, right here on a public forum.
7/18/2017 09:23:00 PM
____________
1. For the Michigan location, 479 returns filed for 2016, average fee in the area is
$296....
2. For the Scott location, 0 returns filed for 2016 (no returns filed for previous years), could be a new location, average fee in the area is $296....
You are welcome.
7/19/2017 06:08:00 AM
Hey, asshole ... enough already with your personal vendetta with Shear. He probably did more police work when he was younger in a year than you'll ever do in your entire shitty career. He retired as a patrol officer and took the civilian job. He got promoted as a civilian so he didn't take "your spot." He never said no to a copper who asked him for help. He had a side business doing taxes. So what? Did you ever work a side job, dip-shit? Now he's old and he should retire, but only so he can enjoy the rest of his life instead of being in the cesspool with people like you. You'll be old someday and you'll probably be one of those guys working side jobs for $15. per hour after you retire, still bitching about Shear & the others. If you've got some "proof" that Shear was doing something wrong, then go to the IAD with it. If not, STFU.
He's too sick to come to work, although he's got a couple listings as a tax preparer:
Marvin Shear
1). SHEAR TAX SERVICE
1305 S Michigan
Chicago, IL 60605
Phone (312) 208-6200
2). Marvin J. Shear
Shear Tax Service
65 E Scott Street, Apt 12 A
Chicago, IL 60610
United States
312-225-3379
IAD - are you out there? Here's the information you need to get you started, right here on a public forum.
7/18/2017 09:23:00 PM
____________
1. For the Michigan location, 479 returns filed for 2016, average fee in the area is
$296....
2. For the Scott location, 0 returns filed for 2016 (no returns filed for previous years), could be a new location, average fee in the area is $296....
You are welcome.
7/19/2017 06:08:00 AM
Hey, asshole ... enough already with your personal vendetta with Shear. He probably did more police work when he was younger in a year than you'll ever do in your entire shitty career. He retired as a patrol officer and took the civilian job. He got promoted as a civilian so he didn't take "your spot." He never said no to a copper who asked him for help. He had a side business doing taxes. So what? Did you ever work a side job, dip-shit? Now he's old and he should retire, but only so he can enjoy the rest of his life instead of being in the cesspool with people like you. You'll be old someday and you'll probably be one of those guys working side jobs for $15. per hour after you retire, still bitching about Shear & the others. If you've got some "proof" that Shear was doing something wrong, then go to the IAD with it. If not, STFU.
7/19/2017 10:53:00 PM
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Listen fruitcake, Marvin Shear is not listed with the IRS as a tax preparer. That means that this is probably a straw operation. The returns are being transmitted under someone else's name. And you STFU. And about spots, someone is definitely filling your spot.
You are welcome.
Hey, asshole ... enough already with your personal vendetta with Shear. He probably did more police work when he was younger in a year than you'll ever do in your entire shitty career. He retired as a patrol officer and took the civilian job. He got promoted as a civilian so he didn't take "your spot." He never said no to a copper who asked him for help. He had a side business doing taxes. So what? Did you ever work a side job, dip-shit? Now he's old and he should retire, but only so he can enjoy the rest of his life instead of being in the cesspool with people like you. You'll be old someday and you'll probably be one of those guys working side jobs for $15. per hour after you retire, still bitching about Shear & the others. If you've got some "proof" that Shear was doing something wrong, then go to the IAD with it. If not, STFU.
7/19/2017 10:53:00 PM
Shut up Tony.
Hey, asshole ... enough already with your personal vendetta with Shear...
7/19/2017 10:53:00 PM
Hi T.C. - thanks for putting your two cents in. I'd defend that old scammer too if he set me up with a good spot like yours after I retire. And you don't even have to get his lunch now that he is on the medical with his "heart problem." Let's face it - if a sworn member worked another job while on the medical that member would be separated, or maybe even indicted, but Shear can do it with impunity. You've both been gaming the system for years, and the truth hurts.
Tony is the only one defending Shear. Many times he has posted on SCC that, "He [Shear] never said no to a copper who asked him for help." I've even heard him say those exact words. Nonsense. The only coppers Shear ever helped were Marv Shear...and Tony, of course.
Love the video of Aldercreep Maldonado trying to spark something at 2am at a crime scene in HP. With his kids. What a loser.
8:32 pm don't forget Steve bybee cfd commander did nothing there now heads up cta fire does nothing there working on second pension plus his social security I'm sure he already collects
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Tony is the only one defending Shear. Many times he has posted on SCC that, "He [Shear] never said no to a copper who asked him for help." I've even heard him say those exact words. Nonsense. The only coppers Shear ever helped were Marv Shear...and Tony, of course.
7/20/2017 01:48:00 PM
No; Tony isn't the only one. Trust me.
Trust you? No thanks! You must be the girlfriend? Will you still defend him after finally realizing he has no plans for wedding bells?
How about Madigan?
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