MORE Taxes!!!
Remember, you have to contribute to the "fiscal well being" of Chicago. But not these clowns:
- Beleaguered Chicago property owners face yet another massive hit for teacher pensions, but their aldermen would escape another difficult vote — thanks to the school funding deal on its way to Gov. Bruce Rauner.
That bill — approved by lawmakers this week — authorizes the Chicago Board of Education to impose a property-tax hike without going to the City Council.
Wasn't there a war fought over something like this? "Taxation without Representation" or something similar?
- Although Chicago homeowners are still reeling from the $588 million property tax increase he pushed through the City Council for police, fire and teacher pensions, Mayor Rahm Emanuel made no apologies for piling on.
“I’ve never, ever said that we were not going to also come up with the resources to make sure our schools were well funded, and we were investing in them,” Emanuel said Tuesday.
When is enough actually enough for taxpayers?
And Rahm is going to blame us for wanting a raise to keep up with the substandard schools that can't even graduate 75% of its students to read at an 8th grade level.
Labels: city politics, money questions
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
73 Comments:
play the game. limit any interest and debt you have. If your stuck here fix yourself....you cant fight city hall......
Vote against all democrats
This will just drive out more productive tax paying people. Chicago and Illinois will be a ghost town.
I arrived to this beautiful city from my home country 15 years ago, this city has given me everything. Unfortunately, it's time to leave this city. For the last three years I have refused to leave Chicago, but our mayor and aldermen are kicking us out. Hummm maybe Hammond, Indiana or Wisconsin?
if you have 5yrs to retirement sell your house, get the fuck out of here. Buy outside cook county. get a home depot ranger to "re locate your water meter". change your credit cards to a address outside cook county, cancel your HULU, NETFLIX, open a playstation VUE account . don't buy that red bull, ice coffee, gatorade, caprisun in the the city. Going to mcdonalds? skip that soda, drink when u get home. bottled water yeah right. fuck this city. Fuck you rham, going to rent a basement apartment in 025 for 400 bucks a month on North and Luna, always a wagon or squad there on a stupid mission. God bless #45
Maybe we will get 1 and 2% raises again.....great job there fop.
26 years in two months and I'll be 50 this month. See ya Shitcago. Tennessee here I come.
The Channel 7 news said that bill sponsors contend that this bill will alleviate ALL funding disparities in public education, so that means they'll NEVER have to tackle this "problem" again, right? It also means that standardized test scores in these "afflicted" neighborhoods will now rise to acceptable levels, right? It also means ALL city schools will be the same educationally, right? I'm so glad that we've alleviated the education problem in Ill-Annoy!
rb
Death Spiral.
Soon the only people in Chicago will be the poor living from government handouts, the very rich that don't worry about costs, and the city workers trying to hold onto their jobs and pensions. Detroit here we come!
Oh, and it's "for the children", so it's GOT to be good, right?
Because if you're not FOR the children, you must be against them.
rb
How much is your house worth to a buyer when the taxes are outrageous?
And the taxes never go down. The taxes may not go up for next year, maybe?
Taxes will go up, year after year. And Property Values will go down, and down.
Move over Detroit!
Just raise the City of Chicago Soda Pop tax to a penny an ounce!
It worked for Toni!
Cook County is rolling in dough!
/sarc
I thought they were all home schooled, they hardly go anyway other then for lunch and dinner. Lunch is served at 1800 hrs and dinner at 2200 hrs. Fuck them, let them go clean their alleys......only after the street lights go on and they are up all night.
CPS have always been the joke of this city for decades, if it were not for these 100 k teacher' a year and the minions who just sleep away in school are R.E taxes would be nil.
Pity the one' raised right that are called every name in the book for playing by the rules.
Retired CPD in Oklahoma says.....
ahhhhh.... more taxes, those "Chicago Values voters", won't mind as they don't pay taxes let alone give a dam that their kids cannot read, after all this is only a day care center now. CPS will buy new basket balls, hire some washed up exNBA has been ( who cannot read either) and get the prancing mayor and stooges to join in on more nonsense. Those Chicago values,....have to keep them on the plantation to vote you know. Maybe if we had a lotto to fund ....education.
Chicago, Cook County and Illinois is one big "Ponzi scheme" ready for a huge collapse!
This whole area, run by Democrats and Rino's {Republican in name only} really sucks!
Anyone not looking for employment elsewhere, what are you waiting for. Leave this hell hole. Be the police somewhere else, plenty of places are hiring experienced officers.
There is no money for CPD raises. Perhaps Cpd will "give back" for the children of course.
Expect Claypool to be crying about needing more money by December "so the schools can stay open"
Came into a little money due to a death in family. Originally wanted to finish my basement. But after all these taxes why would I? No one is going to want to live in the city and it just seems like flushing money down the toilet. Instead I'm buying land in Kentucky. Cheaper cost of living, good on pensions, low taxes. Just like groceries, why buy here?
Remember there are still suburbs that owe Chicago for unpaid water bills.
Maybe if we had a lotto to fund ....education, or a casino or two to fund the pensions...... ya,,, that'll work too! ;)
Chicago property taxes are about 1/3rd the rate of the rest of the state.
Chicago property owners keep returning Organized Crime to political office, dominating the state of Illinois. We downstaters are really tired of Chicago's voters screwing us via their unwavering idiocy in favor of anything "D."
Maybe it's time Chicago property owners bore the costs they impose on the rest of Illinoisans (by their brain-dead, knee-jerk support of the Madigan/Cullerton/demoncrat Outfit.)
What a mindset!
Wisconsin? Are you fucking kidding?
In the las two years my property taxes went up just under a thousand dollars.
This is a bad return on my investment. I always give to CPS from my taxes and look at the results that we get from our 'high class children with exceptional reading, math, science and decision making skills.'
.....the death spiral accelerates.
Another 2 1/2% increase brings the total since 2015 to a whopping 34 1/2% property tax increase. And that on top of all the other taxes and fee's that have been hiked lately.
But the pro-residency crowd tucked into the northwest and southwest sides of the city will tell this is what you "knew" when you "took" the job. And that any compromise on this issue, say even proposing a 20 year limit, or any limit at all is completely unacceptable to them.
Oh well, if thats still the case this round of contract negotiations then be prepared to lose many or most of the job protections we enjoy in our contract as a result this time because the media and "community" will crucify Rahm if he doesn't stick it to us and we refuse to deploy the most powerful negotiating toll at our disposal
As long as it is "for the children"...They should call it what it is..."more money for dumber kids"...in public schools your kids will only get as smart as the weakest link. And the weakest link is very weak. Send them to private schools if you have a conscience...
I once knew a copper who separated from his wife, so she could live in the suburbs and send their kids to better schools. Not exactly ideal, but effective.
Again CPS has no rules!! more teachers live outside the city and use city addresses with no enforcement of the residency rule. Also new rules on CPS discipline /restorative justice =no suspension loss of funds also the rising scores and graduation rates equal to no homework and passing everyone ( Ask your family and friends who work for CPS ) Nothing to see here kids move along. Also wise up people when your children are denied enrollment at a select enrollment school see how many staffs family member are at enrolled at those schools. Compare list selection number verses enrollment . FOIA can help you with this. Start condensing school building that are not full to save tax payers a vast wasteland.
Put the fiscal responsibility on the workers( aka grunts).
Rahm has no fiscal responsibility but he says we need to be part of the solution!
Fuck you Rahm.... and the horse you rode in on.
Time to move.
Grab your ankles, renters. Your rent is about to go way up.
Call the FOP! Make sure they put the residency requirement on the table!!!
probably posted this before, but in 2012 CPS averaged 9 adults per 24 student classroom..wherein the potential salary for the students was 27.9K and the adults 74.8k yr. BTW 2012 was the last year I was able to get this information easy enough to make the comparison. It works out so the "Education Cost" is 4k/yr per classroom more than the population can make to sustain them. BTW, Fire, Police, Streets and Sanitation, not included in those costs. Obviously unsustainable. Just the facts.
Now I have to sell my house. Thanks.
Quit your bitching. As long as they keep getting elected things will not change. Rather then the woe is me find some candidates that will resonate with the voters and work to get them elected. Call out the judges and aldermen that might venerable, (light sentences,section 8 housing as a examples). Organize and put your money where your mouths are. Otherwise is more of the same. Hoping and wishing things will change hasn't worked. Time to act.
Just a thought..... Chicago is broke everyway you look at it.... the county is broke everyway you look at it........the state is broke everyway you look at it!!!!
WTF is the common denominator.......drum roll please!!!!!......"THE DEMOCRATS!!!!"
How many tax payers are there? How much of the city is on assistance>?
True. How much can a person handle? Too, the people in Chicago must have stress beyond belief!
Why doesn't Rahm try to sell something like Daley did to straighten out the city's debt...It worked with the Skyway and the Parking...Well sort of...it made tons of money for the buyers!
BTW what happened to "ALL" that money???? Sounds like something a higher form f government should look at! Easy come easy go more taxes before you know....come on now every taxpayer sing it loud and sing it proud!
"Easy come easy go more taxes before you know!"
So much money wasted and the sow's ear still isn't a silk purse.
+++++ “I’ve never, ever said that we were not going to also come up with the resources to make sure our schools were well funded, and we were investing in them,” Emanuel said Tuesday. +++++
LOL, "investing in them". That's politician speak for: 'Hold onto your wallets, we're gonna spend a shitload of your money on 'X'.'
It's funny -- not ha-ha funny, but sick funny -- that the government is the ONLY entity that can 'invest' in something and LOSE money on that 'investment' every goddamned time.
It's even 'funnier' -- again, not the ha-ha kind -- that not a single one of these politicians are embarrassed by their lousy track record on 'investing'. To the contrary, they're even proud of it, saying that they didn't initially 'invest' (spend) enough money on 'X'. That the first time they only 'invested' (SPENT) a 'Boatload' of money on 'X'. And now they need an additional 'Shitload' of money to make 'X' work, they promise with a straight face.
I don't know which politician first used the Orwellian Newspeak term, 'invest', when they meant 'Spend', but whomever it was they should find out, dig up their bones, and toss them into the nearest Garbage Dump with the rest of the trash.
When the financial crisis hit in 2008, private sector workers lost their jobs, those that did not did not get any raises and many had their hours cut. Not so for Cook County workers and school teachers in Chicago. No one lost their jobs, new hires were made and everyone got raises. That is where most of the public budget goes. Yes, Chicago teachers, working in a failing system producing failing students who when trying to go onto college struggle mightily and cannot compete.
Thank God I am at the end! I was tossing around moving out of crook county, but staying in Illinois or leaving the State. Thanks to the IDIOT Rauner I have decided it would be best to to get the hell out of this F'd up State.
Even looking at the cover of that trash rag the suntimes they are even faking outrage at all the taxes!
I am a proffessional realtor. The increases in property taxes is good for the city in the long run- it is driving poor people out and the wealthy are moving in to the city.
8/30/2017 @ 01:31:00 AM nails it.
Well said, my friend.
Retired 10 years ago and moved out to the far Southwest suburbs. Do all my shopping in Indiana. Get out as soon as you can. Chicago is done.
Easy fix have the teachers pay their own pension contribution !! Our Mayor dumped the health care subsidy for retired city employees. Let the teachers pay the full amount not just 2 % of the pension.
"and get the prancing mayor"
Sir, are you saying that our tiny dancer, 9.5 has morphed or evolved into our tiny Prancer ???
oh, my goodness, all those years of training... how distressing...
Does anyone know if there is any fund raising for Texas flood victims geared specifically towards police officers.
Left Chicago years ago--drafted. Lived in 7 cities and bought houses in 4. Yes taxes are a pain, ours went up 2% and I now pay 1,971.00 for a 2550 sq foot house on a one acre lot with an attached 2 1/2 garage and a 500 sq ft screened in porch.
Yeah taxes are a high, but all that live in Chicago with "Chicago values" and a large percentage of people that need to be supported by your paying taxes,.... well someone needs to pay. Big salaries for city and county workers etc cost money.
My parents exited Chicago in the early 1990's. So pay up and enjoy the ride. I will watch from a nice place on the Emerald Coast. ex Marquette Park person.
schools the biggest con in the city.
Liberals 20 times more likely to steal than conservatives.
just great, more money to a school system that brags and celebrates when 50% of the students can actually read at their grade level
Left Chicongo years ago :) Correctamundomente, youse guyz living in progressive paradise gotta cough up the cash to live in your paradise...heck, look how good all yer chillunz is turning out all edumacated reel gud by CPS & that's just the "Start" of your wonderful civic benefits
Now that we're finally corralling that silly 1st amendment bs pretty soon it'll be illegal to speak about any tax or tax policy in other than glowingly PC terms. You'll even get a list of "acceptable" tax phrases you can use without fear of state/city/county retribution like the destruction of your career & tearing apart of your family since Daddy is now a worthless unemployable, black-listed dawg that can't support nobody...
so enough with the sodie pop penny HOSTILITY....shape up or ship outta Rahmista Wonderland, ya ingrates.... just kick back roll up a dubey & rejoice is Nazicratism :) oh, & make sure your daughters learn to embrace all varieties of recreational drugs it'll make their mandatory participation in "group sports" alot less painful....lol, especially "back there" ol'fashion "down there" is sooooooo passe nowadays
and hey, don't blame me, I know the score. I've seen'em "run the plays" outta the Alinskyite Playbook. Them plays work every time... so get ready: Wash, Rinse, Spin, Repeat
and when the orders come down from on high to go out to aid & assist your local Hitler Youth nazicrats, you know, the ones with the really really cool black clothes & face masks (everything made from renewable resources for sure) ya better wade into them evil feeble old white senior citizens in their walkers & canes & start wailing away or else sumtin' bad might happen to yer pension rights or is that pension rites ?
Just in case you haven't figured out which "Criminals" your political masters want you to pinch & imprison... The courts & DA's are ready but they're getting impatient waiting on youse guys to furnish them the "right" raw material to crunch into dust :) yeah, yer very own granma & granpaw's are the enemies in the nazicrats new way of doing things
Board of Education can impose a property tax hike? Anyone else thinks it's completely insane?
hey ssc everybody keeps talking about Tennessee , where in to retire in TN.
Note: Not one request to increase pension from the teachers. They just keep bleeding the taxpayers.
And why weren't the pensions funded? Hey Lisa Madigan? Can u answer this?
As it relates to education, Chicago has never really paid much in taxes. I live in Oak Lawn and just the part of my tax bill for the children is $4300 on a $190,000 house. Two more years until I leave this state for good.
How come the state of Texas has a rainy day fund (pardon the pun) of 10 Billion dollars. What does the state of Illinois have ?????. 0 controlled by socialist demorats.
go to the suburbs and look at their tax bill....
probably posted this before, but in 2012 CPS averaged 9 adults per 24 student classroom..wherein the potential salary for the students was 27.9K and the adults 74.8k yr. BTW 2012 was the last year I was able to get this information easy enough to make the comparison. It works out so the "Education Cost" is 4k/yr per classroom more than the population can make to sustain them. BTW, Fire, Police, Streets and Sanitation, not included in those costs. Obviously unsustainable. Just the facts.
fake news
CPS spends 5300 per kid New Tier spends 15,000.... took a look at Winnetka's taxes.. no cops live there...
Baby G for Mayor. I can't say it enough.
But then to you, the person who posted this:
"When the financial crisis hit in 2008, private sector workers lost their jobs, those that did not did not get any raises and many had their hours cut. Not so for Cook County workers and school teachers in Chicago. No one lost their jobs, new hires were made and everyone got raises. That is where most of the public budget goes. Yes, Chicago teachers, working in a failing system producing failing students who when trying to go onto college struggle mightily and cannot compete."
Do you realize that all of the stories you read about workers *i.e.-teachers, streets and san, et al. - are planted by Mr. Rahm himself? Just like every time the subject of Police Contracts are discussed, a rogue cop is outed for something? This is what he does: he pits you against them, and vice-versa. The truth is that Rahm does not give a shit about me, you, the poor kids in the schools, or the poor teachers in the schools running daycare for seniors in high school. That is how people like him stay in power: they pit each and everyone of us against one another. If you can't see that, you may as well pull the pin and retire to somewhere else, because as a real Chicagoan, you are letting a carpet-bagger from Winnetka win. Please, don't be so fucking stupid. The world is bigger than St. Pat's or St. Rita, but by spitting out these bullshit stories about bad actors, this little asshole Mayor (and New Trier grad) is spurring you into turning against other working men and women you have more in common with, and dividing the vote that much further. A vote against one person - any person that we can all agree on - is a vote to get rid of this little fucking monster on the 5th Floor. And for that, we all have to stand together whether we are white, black, brown or asian. Please, re-consider your stance. Please. He is a narcissistic asshole with sociopathic tendencies and we need to get rid of him. Don't fall for the bait.
Born Free, Taxed to Death
Not if the pathetic gov signs off on it. He is also an ineffective disgrace. He will be replaced by that slob pritzker. Same shit differnt face
Communist attempts to ram Presidents car.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/08/mystery-car-speeds-woods-potus-trumps-limo-passes-springfield-mo-video/
Professional.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Does anyone know if there is any fund raising for Texas flood victims geared specifically towards police officers.
8/30/2017 02:48:00 PM
www.assisttheofficer.com
I live in Edgebrooke and I pull my garbage cans to the front of my crib, in the ghetto got a love if, I see the tower of PISA and NILES Y.
communist attempts to ram trumps car, what fuckin brand of tin foil hat do your wear, the 5 gallon bathroom shit can brand you fool.
Make CTU, coonmunist teachers union pay their FULL 9 Percent !!!!!
The Democommunists know that Chicago is gonna sink, and are just pretending to come up with solutions to fix the problems. They will never fix the problem, because they ARE the problem.
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