This Moron Again?
This appeared on 016 District PDT's not too long ago (click for larger versions):
ISR's again? Fine, whoop-de-doo. But a month later, this crossed a line (we've blacked out the names):
That's fifteen names broadcast to co-workers (and archived to FOIA-able databases) to what end? Oh yeah, to attempt to embarrass and humiliate - the mark of a true tool of a supervisor. And it appears to skirt the boundaries of State law, specifically 65 ILCS 5/11-1-12:
- A municipality may not, for purposes of evaluating a police officer's job performance, compare the number of citations issued by the police officer to the number of citations issued by any other police officer who has similar job duties. [emphasis added]
So if someone would like to bring this to the attention of Lt. Kohnen, 016th District so as not to jeopardize his career options, he'd might appreciate the heads up. The Acting Superintendent might want to re-send that "No Quotas" AdMin Fax message again.
Labels: silly people
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
164 Comments:
I'm not saying it was cool what he did but for gods sake you can't write one single ISR in 10 months?? If this supervisor really wants to take it to the next level then review the officers entire tour of in car and body worn cameras. If you seen one instance on video where an ISR should have been done and wasn't then get a beef. If your not gonna go that far boss then stfu. Nobody is right here. Lazy coppers making 90-100 k a year and stroke bosses.
Fuck him. Don't tell him shit. If the idiot isn't smart enough to know the limitations, why would anyone tell him? For what purpose? To help him? No way, he would not appreciate it so why bother? To help us? To save us from a pdt message? I'm off tomorrow, so I will not be telling him a thing? And, when I return, I still will not tell him a thing.
These bosses just don't get it. They can all pound sand
How? Taking time into perspective, is it an "irregularity" that those beats have not done an ISR in 2017... all beats = no ISR for 2017= it's converting into a normal behavior.
An irregularity for 2017, is one beat out of all the beats to come in with an ISR.
Mmmm what is kidney bean ED doing about this... Rham where are those 1000 cops at???.. the plug was let out of the department way too quick, ain't no more water in the tub
For fucks sake take action immediately. Don't let this LT. do this to these cops especially in a hostile environment socially and politically. There is enough pressure out there as it is. Everybody has got a cell phone and is calling 911 for police service. Cops are answering more calls now than ever before which means more stress, citizen encounters, confrontational people, arrests and more everything. No need for supervisors to worsen work conditions. Most street coppers have sky high cortisol levels from stress fucking up their bodies, now some LT. is pressuring people into doing ISRs. Didn't the ACLU threaten to sue over contact cards because of the high demand for them from supervisors and the dept. had to change the policy (RAS) ? Ya can't make this shit up when it comes to supervisors like this one.
I said it once and i'll say it again . 30% are merit, 30% cheated to get rank. The contact cards were illegal on how the dept. generated them so why listen to these bosses when they demand isr's. So more taxpayer money can be legally stolen, wink, wink.
isn't that what management people are for?? You ask for a favor ..in return you get numbers? Also 1699 can get an ISR or two himself..WTF, u wear a white shirt and you don't see anything worth stopping???
"How can we motivate those Cops out of their
"Defensive Crouch" and get them to engage with
the public by generating activity like they used to?"
Refusing to jeopardize your job and freedom
by blindly feeding the ever hungry activity
beast will be the new stick the powers that be
will beat The Police with.
Quota based activity will take on actionable
meaning as denial of Police Service/Failure
To Perform Duties.
Even though quota based Policing is a state
and federal no-no, the municipality you work
for is being slid into a place of supersedence
in order to set the table for administratively
punishing Policemen for trying to protect themselves
from bad/incompetent management.
What overall good can ultimately come from compelling them
to engage in directly proscribed policing practices
that result in the individual Policemen being left
cold and alone in a windowless room while listing
their assets and liabilities while Police Management
runs the other way?
When quota based activity demands jump up and bite,
it'll only be the blue shirt rubbing that sore ass
while these wretched supervisors sit back and laugh.
It seems like "The Moron" in 016 is only interested
in pimping "Police Activity" for his next promotion.
...No matter how many Policemen he causes harm to.
Protect Yourselves From THEM.
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Don't do shit, don't worry about shit.
I am now retired. However once I had an opportunity to interact with Lt Kohnen when he was the midnite W/C in 017.
I was from another unit and needed an authorization to buy a replacement large capacity magazine for a duty related weapon.
Stopped into 017 on the way from work, ( we didnt have those forms in my unit) He refused to sign it for me.
I was in traveling uniform, and had an ID card.
I actually think he didnt know what to do. What a stroke
Sorry SCC I don't like it either but you have to read the rest of the law;
"Nothing in this Section shall prohibit a municipality from evaluating a police officer based on the police officer's points of contact. For the purposes of this Section, "points of contact" means any quantifiable contact made in the furtherance of the police officer's duties, including, but not limited to, the number of traffic stops completed, arrests, written warnings, and crime prevention measures. Points of contact shall not include either the issuance of citations or the number of citations issued by a police officer.
This Section shall not apply to a municipality subject to Section 10-1-18.1 of this Code with its own independent inspector general and law enforcement review authority.
Kulbida's protege cousin?.....figures
This from a guy maxed out and making 60grand in it ever year. Ugh!
Capt hoot did that to us in 012.
Nakia has done this before. The difference with her is that she read the bts with no ISRs during roll call.
.....and learn how to spell,(or proofread) asshat,.....PRATICULAR?
looks like Lt. Kohnen is gonna be named in a lawsuit
He wasn't called Bob Cone head for nothing, he's definitely not of this earth...
Unfair labor act
Where's the union?
You can write articles to the scum times.
Well here you go do you want a spoon to feed it to you?
Let's see what our great union does !
If this Lt. had an issue, and wanted to call people out, why not do it at roll call?!?
Stupid
Strength in Numbers. Make that list of names Grow, until it includes everyone on every Watch. If anyone on the Tac Team has a set of gonads, let them join in as well. Make the next listed posted a point of Unity and Pride. The Department has been fed to the ACLU, & COPA; and Merit bosses/Political Hacks who think that coppers are going to make Stops? Anyone who makes a Stop unless it is part of a call is being Proactive, at a time when Proactive means setting yourself up for unnecessary problems. How many stops did Looney make? Lead by Example! When the Commander starts making some stops accompanied by his Inside Flunky, and attracts Beefs, then everyone else can learn how to do it. At this point, as Mc Carthy said the Friday before the Monday when he got launched :"The Mayor's got my back. "Does the Mayor have everyone else's backs too? Just think for a moment: How will you support yourself and your family if you take a COPA Beef? How will you control a drug crazed subject without using force? MORE IMPORTANTLY, HOW WILL IT LOOK ON THE I-PHONE VIDEO POSTED ON FACEBOOK and YouTube? Bosses think it is still the 80's, and this is Starsky and Hutch! The days of Chases and "Pull em over cause he don't look right" are Over; Done. Enjoy the entertainment that is the Circus called "Shitcaga"; but avoid being the clowns. Especially in 016 with the Progressive/Commie Alderman. Baby "G"
This so called boss should be FIRED!
You don't demand activity or quotas in this day and age especially in writing or electronic means!
Fucking Dummy!
You expect this type of behavior from a Lie-tenant of the Nobility, not Lt. Kohnen. Perhaps he expects future promotions if he acts like a fool.
Retired .38 spl +P
More isr that would solve this the dishonest media gets this:
2 Investigators: Few Arrests As Chicago Carjackings Spike
September 18, 2017 10:33 PM By Brad Edwards
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/09/18/few-arrests-as-chicago-carjackings-spike/
Ahh but reporter Edwards does not describe type of savage animals that do this? Hey brad anyone the innocent targets should be aware of? Is it the Amish?
I am in shock after years of this shit in news dumb ass bosses are still putting this shit in writing and on PDT. Wow, what a brain the fukcing moron must have, Should be demoted immediately for incompetency and poor choices. But wait , that never happens. When do people get demoted ever on this job , that deserve it? Once a thousand !? As far as listing names , this was an attempt to embarrass them and harass them , EEOC complaints are the worst to get, because its the LAST thing a boss wants pending before them. TRUST ME, I am a boss, and its the worst (for the white shirt----good for the blue shirt ) the action a copper can take.... Have the balls, the ones named and do it, whats the worth thing that can happen ? Your harassed, retaliation of a complaint is even more grounds for the boss the be fucked even more.
Embarrass??? No way. Im proud of those officers for not writing any ISR's! Good job! Stay Fetal.
Rumor has it the department will put you in for meritorious.... oh nevermind. My bad. You will be offered a spot with a take home car over at unit .... oh my bad again. That's not how it works! LT'S Wayne W and Mart C just told me so. Or was it their daddys that told me? I forget now.
On a side note I'll never forget when Wayne Jr and Sr were in the Pschy workshop. Wayne Jr had like 18 months on the job and he was an instructor in the class.
Memo to Moron:
Why Scoring Has Nosedived in the NFL
Wall Street Journal Online, 9-19-17
Lt Kohnen was a tool of a sgt when he was in 011 many years ago. Lt Kohnen has been drinking the kool aid since the late 90's, and has increased his daily consumption.
Personally, I would have to get a number on bob and talk with legal counsel to seek possible monetary damages for his memo.
Is bob still wearing those colorful pajamas to work that he was seen wearing on a dash cam several years ago?
Col Hannibal Smith
A-TEAM
That law doesn't apply to Chicago.
Every management asshole with access to
computer-generated stats has issued similar
emails to give the impression that he is watching
his men and is right on top of them. That last part
is especially true as the asshole attempts to instill
1984-like fear and paranoia.
These are the same management assholes who turn
to their kids for help with personal electronic problems.
Tell Looney he is fuckin Goofey
The problem is how do you measure performance that is not ultimately a quota?
Ask Lt Wines for advice on making officers do ISR. She gave a big lashing asking for ISR in roll call. The next day she got 0. The officers of the 005th district are in control not the chesting scandal Lt's. Pass a test without studying the answers then talk to us. Brain fart
You want to piss him off, call him Lt. Cohen.
Keep up the good work, blanked out officers!!
Over the PDT???? What a jack ass!
Bow coppers bow. Answer your calls and that's it. I and another copper and Sgt all got lawsuits walking out the door. They are both retired and I'm going soon. And now the city does NOT cover any judgements against you. Now for free representation by city law department you have to sign a waiver stating you've been informed on the new policy. BEWARE GUYS.
Leaders are supposed to motivate and not manipulate. Further Praise in Public and Criticise in Private. He would flunk the most basic leadership class in the military and other organizations.
Stay fucking fetal
.....and learn how to spell,(or proofread) asshat,.....PRATICULAR?
9/19/2017 03:00:00 AM
WTF? That's how we say it in the state of Milwaukee. So don't be so praticular!
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm not saying it was cool what he did but for gods sake you can't write one single ISR in 10 months?? If this supervisor really wants to take it to the next level then review the officers entire tour of in car and body worn cameras. If you seen one instance on video where an ISR should have been done and wasn't then get a beef. If your not gonna go that far boss then stfu. Nobody is right here. Lazy coppers making 90-100 k a year and stroke bosses.
9/19/2017 12:14:00 AM
Go scratch yourself. Nowhere does it say we have to write ISR's. No I wouldn't write one. Put me to midnights. I don't care, but what I care about is not to leave any type of paper trail that could be pinned on to me now or 10 years from now depending on the political winds. All this "go get me some activity " is only to make the brass look good at the po's expense. Lazy coppers? Responding to your jobs, writing reports, arresting on signed complaints and being visible is enough to justify 90-100 k.
I'm disappointed to see that in some areas there was an increase in the activity. Some people just don't get "stay fetal". The less interaction with the public, the less stress.
I'm on that list. Called the union about it when it happened before and I called them this week. Said someone would get back to me. Still waiting. Looks like I have to go to meeting and yell at the mike like all the regulars.
Wow, just look at those activity numbers. All I do is answer my jobs.
Jeez Bobby......What the Fuck happened to you????...I think it's time for you to Retire before you step on your Johnson any further.....
Bigger picture: coppers not doing sh*t in 016 where over half of us live
Crime up on all watches in 016 and we cant even make a stop?
Yeah Yeah I'm a sucka$$, but I do live on 1614's beat and see which way the area is headed
you want to be a dog? bid out to 002, 012, 025 or whatever district have bad commanders
Policing based on the generation of a useless,
ACLU sourced form called an ISR as a shameful
failure fraught with potential legal and administrative
peril for the individual Policeman.
The ACLU gifted CPD management with the perfect
tool with which to run the ultimate administrative jackpot.
Policemen are being forced to balance the desires
of incompetent management, the desires of the ACLU
and their personal desire to avoid potentially being rung
up and cashiered on a whim by the collect end users,
collectors and the improperly installed, oversight authority
examiners of the data set that is the ISR.
>We're going to use this vehicle to prove Police malfeasance<
Remember the ISSR?
That was put in place with the help of then senator
Sparkle-Farts to "prove" racial profiling by The Police.
How many new leases on life has that wretched piece-
of-shit legislation been given because the Progressives
are pissed that they're wholly unable to "prove" actual
racial profiling?
So why not attack The Police on a new front in
order to gin-up the proof you think you'll need?
Anyone with common sense and discernment
KNOWS this is bad policy driven by bad law,
enacted by bad and incompetent people to
somehow validate a flawed narrative.
Cooler heads will not be allowed to prevail against this.
Therefore, the individual Policeman has an unenviable
decision to make.
Protect yourselves from the harm that bad
policy and incompetent management can bring.
No matter how syntactically slick, artfully crafted
and cunningly contrived to sound and appear as
benign as a summer sun-shower, the powers that
be represent these laws and policies to be.
Protect Yourselves From THEM.
Police Like You Have No Friends.
This guy is seriously sick! To put out a public shaming of police officers with the sole purpose to embarrass them over stats involving citizens with constitutional rights is beyond wrong. Apparently he doesn't care about the ACLU investigation or DOJ. What if a PO used department computers to send out a message like that? Why isn't a CR # initiated? Is the ACLU aware? This is the stuff that got the department in trouble in the first place. Didn't the First Deputy put out a memo about quotas? He can't be pleased by this. The quotas are supposed to be hush hush.
Just remember that you won't go to prison for doing nothing. Now if the air is clear? Pull my finger...
The Lt is just the messenger. Believe me. They bring up every little thing like that at compstat and berate the cmdr about why this certain beat has zero isr's, tsss cards etc. The cmdr then instructs their Lts to "take care of this immediately." It's the bosses at the top that are still pushing all these numbers and bringing the heat down. We should put the blame where it properly lies.
On the other hand, it sucks being a resident of 016 and knowing that the majority of our police aren't stopping anyone. I totally understand because of today's climate, but still hard to see in black and white.
Kone head used to run closed market back in the day out of 011. Checkoff was at 2 and he hated it when guys used to come in early. So instead of telling the sgts to keep everyone out of the building until 2, old Coney would get in his car at 130 and park it across the mouth of the driveway in the West lot so no one could get in or out. If a car were to come by early, he would roll down his window and yell at them. There would be a line of 20 cars down kedzie waiting for him to move his car at 2. Once a softball, always a softball. Time to go, Bob.
Management needs to understand that there's been a paradigm shift and that all activity numbers should be viewed historically BLQ and ALQ. There expectations on activity should be evaluated as such. The new routine of everyday beat pushing coppers should be:enroute button, on scene button, code or rd, arrest on signed complaint or when mandated by law and always minimize officer induced exigence. Repeat. Give them the department they asked for. Stay safe fellow street 9161's and go home your loved ones.
I work on the west side in a very busy district and I don't write ISRs if I can help it. Go fuck yourself. Why don't you focus on providing your residents with better police service than demanding some pimpy bullshit numbers from your blueshirts.
Separate from the privacy issues,
HATS OFF to those whose names were blocked out!
Stay Fetal!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm not saying it was cool what he did but for gods sake you can't write one single ISR in 10 months?? If this supervisor really wants to take it to the next level then review the officers entire tour of in car and body worn cameras. If you seen one instance on video where an ISR should have been done and wasn't then get a beef. If your not gonna go that far boss then stfu. Nobody is right here. Lazy coppers making 90-100 k a year and stroke bosses.
STFU, I don't blame anyone for not wanting to write a two page report every time you stop someone
Indexes are quotas plain and simple.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm not saying it was cool what he did but for gods sake you can't write one single ISR in 10 months?? If this supervisor really wants to take it to the next level then review the officers entire tour of in car and body worn cameras. If you seen one instance on video where an ISR should have been done and wasn't then get a beef. If your not gonna go that far boss then stfu. Nobody is right here. Lazy coppers making 90-100 k a year and stroke bosses.
"Go rub your yourself some more " Dork
I remember being told at the ISR class that the ACLU had instructed CPD (as an organization) NOT TO keep track of ISRs as a statistic. About 2 weeks later, what's listed in the stats..... ISRs!?
If you work in 16 and you have not called FOP regarding this your a moron. Blame yourselves.
Whats with all the PCAD messages Doesn't he go to roll call?
(OT) just found the answer page to Mark Brown's, Chicago Sun-Times today about the homeless, they are being removed due to not having a permit! So the mayor will let the violent protesters caused damage here stop people from going where they need to go without permits but yet the homeless people are throwing out! In the article it states that the homeless attempted to go somewhere else but were told they would be arrested because they have no Permit! So The elected pander to the criminals and obstructionist but yet the homeless people are just discarded guess they can't vote or they won't vote or can't be bought what a disgrace!
Come on you guys, everyone needs to do something so the class action lawsuit coming down the road can include everyone!
The whole city is going to become a city of millionaires, except for the cops and taxpayers. Hey, the money has to come from somewheres.
J.J.
To the first post, at 12:14am, you must have like a year on the job. And don't remember contact cards. Fuck isr's. Fuck the ACLU. I bust my ass to make court/ot payoff, and haven't done one single isr eeeever. And never will. And I get felonies damn near every night all by the book. There's ways to get around it. Isr's get reviewed every 6mos by aclu in a massive data dump, looking for "civil rights violations" to flag and fuck you over in a trick bag for copa. They say that's not true but when has this city ever told the truth. No way Jose. No isr's, ever.
What's funny is he's a dog ass himself. He comes in, grabs keys and goes home for breakfast and sits around the house. The desk sgt covers for him. Hypocrite!
soon to be Capitan Conehead
look at top command staff of CPD , were any non merit ?
State Law is optional in Illinois.................
This guy should be moved immediately, he is a horrible manager and doesn't want any responsibility whatsoever. Will not even sign a time due slip!! He constantly talks down to officers and fellow supervisors. He micromanages to the extreme and is NEVER on the scene he is managing. He always supersedes his sergeants and doesn't let them do their jobs. He needs to be moved immediately as the good hard working officers of the 016th dostrict who make the commander look good are sick and tired of this guys bullshit and the work will eventually stop. You better do something about this guy otherwise your compstat numbers may increase sooner or later.
Your Commander in 016 was never the police, so that's what type of leadership you get from the top on down. So glad I retired.
seiser for distric commander of 016 seiser would never do sh-t like this he knows how to run it
don't get scdred 016 get prepare lisa Madigan will be your new districts commander and I thought night of living dead was scary
that's "patricularly" heinous.
get a CR on the boss
Lt with seniority= won't lose his watch or district....thinks he is untouchable...and has been goofy for years. Question is why hasn't any Commander or Captain addressed his shortcomings? Where is the accountability at the top?
I live in 16 and havn't seen a beat car in a year. You police where the police live and respect you. Stop people, do your damn job or go to a place where the police don't live. I understand the district is short but at least drive around, make yourselves visable. We live here.
I love how this dept tells you to violate civil rights but stabs you in the back when you do an illegal street stop for the sole purpose of having numbers. Illinois General Assembly has the recreational marijuana bill 9n the fllor. If any copper is locking up anyone for weed, they are an idiot.
That's why VRI doesn't reduce violence. It's mearly to generate revenue through parkers, movers and ANOV's. VRI never has been about violence reduction.
Sounds like Kohnen is in line for a promotion. Don't we just promote the folks who can't or just don't get it. At least give him a lateral move to HQ, sounds like he deserves it.. AHHH CPD's finest Why doesn't he talk to them at roll call instead of behind a screen.
Okay okay, if I generate an ISR number? Can I receive a participation ribbon? LMAO ROTF LOL stop! My side hurts!
One beat officer on the 2nd watch accounted for 83 % of isr completions! That bend over may I have another suck hole should be memorialized and meritoriously triple promoted, unless of course every cent earned isn't signed over in the federal lawsuits.
While his intentions seem to be to try and shame coppers to write them, and probably tired of hearing about it from above, but keep in mind that zeros bring attention. You/they may be trying to make a point or to try and push the fetal movement, but at any time they can look at your calls, check your body cameras and in car camera and easily find when you should have knocked one out. We all know, but make choices, just don't let the choices bite you in the ass. You don't have to go out hunting, but you do need to appropriately respond to your jobs and abide by the order when handling the job. Its easier to knock one out when appropriate than it is to just blow them off and eventually have our own actions bite our ass. Why give them the ability to do that?
Remember the days when you called someone a "dog" for not doing anything?
Now it's a badge of honor! I love it!! Keep it up boys and girls!
016
who's in charge Looney Tunes and future captain Cone Head
So the Northwest side is going to hell and coppers are on here cheering for it? We LIVE there you jagoff's. When you're at work, these are the coppers watching our neighborhoods, our houses, and our families. And you're supporting them doing nothing? Better yet, when you see something suspicious and you call the police, feel free to post on here how they responded and did nothing.
Sending those messages were completely wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if the messages were dictated by the Commander who told the Lieutenant to send them out. Some Commanders love to have others do their dirty work to keep their names out of it in order to keep their spot or further their careers. I further agree with the poster who stated there are more calls to answer. I find it strange that in this anti-police environment that we are called for everything including: my teenage daughter disrespected me, my grandmother won't leave and is cursing at me, my neighbor has a party on a Saturday at 4pm and the boom box is loud, etc. etc.
Anonymous said...
I'm not saying it was cool what he did but for gods sake you can't write one single ISR in 10 months?? If this supervisor really wants to take it to the next level then review the officers entire tour of in car and body worn cameras. If you seen one instance on video where an ISR should have been done and wasn't then get a beef. If your not gonna go that far boss then stfu. Nobody is right here. Lazy coppers making 90-100 k a year and stroke bosses.
9/19/2017 12:14:00 AM
Wow. It sure didn't take long for a mentally impaired person to say something retarded. It is the whole point of the matter you moron. No one should do ISRs because ISRs should not exist in the first place! I don't care if it is 016 or the ghetto. Don't do them! People like you should post their name and star number so that others can know who you are and have no contact or interaction with you whatsoever.
Were the inside dollies on that list? I'm pretty sure they don't have any isr's either?
Off topic but how much of their budget is COPA using on advertising? I've heard a commercial on the radio, and seen a couple bus stop COPA adds. Is this just extra money? I mean we need to make sure the accounting is on the up and up at a police oversight office. It is Chicago, government money never just disappears right? Who is overseeing the overseers?
Brass should remember that you reap what you sow. They brought this on. Now live with it.
Bring it to EEOC or some outside agency attention other than CPD.
COPA seems hell bent on taking names and kicking butt. Let them go out and fill those perceived quotas.
What a bully! I'm gonna have a hard time napping during my tour today.
If your name ISN'T on that list you should be ashamed and I live in 016!
Your missing the bigger picture. He just told on the commander. He's a leaker
OT; who is the idiot that moved central bikes to mccormick place? they used to be close in case something jumped off downtown. now 3 miles away. rumor is they are the new entertainment police for 9.5's so called new entertainment district. one step forward 20 backwards. heard SG had part in it.
President The Donald would have fired this Lieutenant on one of the Apprentice shows.
Anonymous said...
I'm not saying it was cool what he did but for gods sake you can't write one single ISR in 10 months?? If this supervisor really wants to take it to the next level then review the officers entire tour of in car and body worn cameras. If you seen one instance on video where an ISR should have been done and wasn't then get a beef. If your not gonna go that far boss then stfu. Nobody is right here. Lazy coppers making 90-100 k a year and stroke bosses.
9/19/2017 12:14:00 AM
You're just as bad as the citizen who thinks he knows my job and what I'm doing. I'll bet you say how you "never see a squad car go past your house" too. Damn lazy coppers, sitting around while you work your ass off every second of every tour! You should go up there and show them how it's done!
YEP, Thats RIGHT Cmdr Frickin LOONEY TUNES and all his Suck Hole Lt's
Amazing that in the one message it's all praise about how activity is up and crime is down and the D/C is happy - thanks for all of your hard work, officers! BUUUTTTTTT - that's not enough - we want more - we want you to sandbag some citizens for ISR's, even though we're already under heat from the ACLU for doing them and getting scrutinized by the DOJ.
And crazy Lt. Bob Kohnen, who is a senior lieutenant who can't be moved, is dumb enough to push the issue. He is a micro-managing boob, I've never seen anyone quite like him on this job. This ISR crap is only a tiny glimpse into his insanity, he is a poison to the CPD.
LOL on the Brad Edwards story. "You white (expletive) I'll blow your brains out." Hmmm was it another white guy? Doubt it. Funny how the fucking media loves to mention race when it involves a white cop and a black offender (I mean victim). An impossible to set up a decoy unit? Please. Bait CAR. Seems I've seen that show more than once and guess who the starring role is?
Will the MSM whores sniffing around this blog for their daily stories from which to plagiarize run with this?
I mean, come on! This is as close as it gets to putting a quota on paper. At the very least it promotes shoddy police tactics when subordinates are pressured by the Bossholes to increase 'activity'. Shoddy work = lawsuits, injuries and several other bad things, NONE of which 99% of the white shirts will be subjected to because they'll disavow any knowledge of the incident when the shit hits the fan.
Do what the dude did to Lt. PapSmear and request Conehead quantify his specific requests for activity. Otherwise it's a non-issue... keep doing what you've been doing and document EVERYTHING for the right time. And when that time comes, ensure your attorney demands punitive damages in addition to what the Shitty will offer to kill the case.
"Fetal-ity". Self preservation never felt so good.
(OT) look at this stupid shorties in training for thug footballs, listen to this pos asshole coach explain:
8-year-old Cahokia football team kneels during anthem ahead of recent game
http://fox2now.com/2017/09/18/8-year-old-cahokia-football-team-kneels-during-anthem-ahead-of-recent-game/
If I was personally at that game, that is a reason to leave and if your kid is a "thug in training"grab your dumbass kid and slap the heck out of them and explain how many American soldiers died so they can do stupid shit! Cannot wait for hockey "thugball" is finished could careless if bears ever win but will NEVER tune in and waste my time boycott anti-American, anti-police football!!
Read elsewhere on this blog and called state police to ask why is traffic forced to stop and pull over as ISP squads escort busloads non-stop to soldiers field? They are paid to do it well who gets the payoff? What is the cost? Hey Leo maybe you could get a football medal you know like the stack you have on your chest!
When you look at these medals striking similar to Leo's is this the inspiration for all the medals?
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
If you work in 16 and you have not called FOP regarding this your a moron. Blame yourselves.
They probably all want to stay in 016 and are afraid to call
I swear, the next officer I hear say or call someone a dog...I will punch them in the nose
9/19/2017 08:26:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The Lt is just the messenger. Believe me. They bring up every little thing like that at compstat and berate the cmdr about why this certain beat has zero isr's, tsss cards etc. The cmdr then instructs their Lts to "take care of this immediately." It's the bosses at the top that are still pushing all these numbers and bringing the heat down. We should put the blame where it properly lies.
On the other hand, it sucks being a resident of 016 and knowing that the majority of our police aren't stopping anyone. I totally understand because of today's climate, but still hard to see in black and white.
Maybe because you have to have cause to stop someone. The days of just stopping citizens for no reason are over
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I live in 16 and havn't seen a beat car in a year. You police where the police live and respect you. Stop people, do your damn job or go to a place where the police don't live. I understand the district is short but at least drive around, make yourselves visable. We live here.
Easy for you to say. Do your dam job. You would be the first one to complain if you son or daughter were the ones being stopped or even you or your spouse. Your first question would be "what were you doing?" and the reply was nothing, just walking down the street or driving home from school. You would be crying like a baby. What right do you have to stop my child
And now the city does NOT cover any judgements against you. Now for free representation by city law department you have to sign a waiver stating you've been informed on the new policy. BEWARE GUYS.
Several contract cycles there was a Memo of Understanding in that the City would cover the police officer in return for the officers' would cooperate in the City's defense.
Was that repealed by agreement or did the City abrogate unilaterally with FOP doing its typical bit cheaper dog roll over?
Remember this when you go to Corporation Counsel office: They ARE NOT your attorney. They are the City's. The legal interests are diiferent. You are giving THEM info to defend the City.
If they aren't covering you, don't talk to them.
OT: fugitive Eddie Hicks apprehended.
Soon the flu shot will be mandatory, but the ingredients will change to make you more compliant.
Big G
O.T.
Add this name to the CPD wall of shame.
Former Chicago police Sgt. Eddie Hicks was arrested in Detroit on Sept. 19, 2017, after 15 years on the lam. (FBI)
To all of you morons who are beefing that the coppers in 016 aren't doing anything: Did you read the first PDT message above, the one that says how all index crime is down and EVERY category of activity (except ISR's) is up? Are you that stupid that you can't derive from those statements that the coppers ARE working in 016, in spite of this moron Kohnen? Oh, I know, you NEVER see a squad car go past your house, and if you could be SO lucky as to work in such a slow, easy place as 016 YOU'D be stopping everything that moved, blah blah blah. Guess what - I never see a squad car pass my house, either - but I'm also intelligent enough to realize that during the course of a 24-hour day, I probably am watching the street or alley by me for a grand total of 5-10 minutes - or maybe a couple of hours, if I'm sitting in front. That still leaves 22 hours (or more) that I may have missed a squad car that actually did go past - which takes a few seconds to occur, then POOF, the squad car is gone down the block. Unless you watch your street and alley 24-hours a day, could you have missed this event, too?
Am I really that smart that I figure this stuff out, or are you really that stupid that you CAN'T figure this out?
I'm one of the officers on the list. Guess what? I write a lot of TSSS cards - yep, they're nonsense, but that means that I'm stopping cars and hi-visibility. And I cover my beat, don't lay down, back up coppers and hit the alleys - but you think I'm a jagoff because I haven't written an ISR? I think I know which one of us is the jagoff.
Bid up here and light the fire, Tackleberry, show us how to be The Real Police!
Like the quote from Robert Downey Jr. - Listen, smile, nod and then do whatever the f%&# you were gonna do anyway.
Its easier to do one said...
While his intentions seem to be to try and shame coppers to write them, and probably tired of hearing about it from above, but keep in mind that zeros bring attention. You/they may be trying to make a point or to try and push the fetal movement, but at any time they can look at your calls, check your body cameras and in car camera and easily find when you should have knocked one out. We all know, but make choices, just don't let the choices bite you in the ass. You don't have to go out hunting, but you do need to appropriately respond to your jobs and abide by the order when handling the job. Its easier to knock one out when appropriate than it is to just blow them off and eventually have our own actions bite our ass. Why give them the ability to do that?
9/19/2017 11:43:00 AM
You must not have a lot of time on the job or have spent your whole career in a place like 020. What the hell are you talking about?! Bosses will go through body cameras to investigate lack of ISRs?! Please. Do you check under your bed at night for the boogey man?
Does the Lt's electronic directive summoning the Watch mean: Stop more people of colour or more people of lest colour in 016 ?
Today's Political Pawn Real Police should know better by now what the monthly activity report should be ;
ISR's: 0
Traffic: 0
ANOV: 0
Truants: 0
Curfews: 0
Recovered Veh: 4
Parking: 1
CTA: 1 (box 2)
Not Counted:
Coded Calls for Service: 3 per hour
Case Reports: 3-4 per day (keep CMO busy)
Assist Units: 1 per hour
Desk Runs: 2 per month per beat
We know better.
Traffic and Street Stops have been the subject of many, many racial discrimination and civil rights complaints.
They are NOT used to compile a measure or correction of bad drivers or criminal activities.
We know these reports are a measure of a Merit Boss Leadership capacity.
COPA is awaiting your submissions and an 8-10% sustainable rate.
So 016, Don't Give In to unhinged Lts or be like a daytime twenty percenter P.O. 83%, but to be fair, probably only 3 ISRs were written but sure sounds like more just to shame the rest.
Send the KoneHead to 010 or 011 if he wants border collies to round up names and numbers FOR HIS BENEFIT.
Yawn,let the bosses pound sand. What can they do split up partners, so be it. Even less work will get done.
And the neighborhoods have already been lost. Chicago is crap.
Anonymous said...
Bigger picture: coppers not doing sh*t in 016 where over half of us live
Crime up on all watches in 016 and we cant even make a stop?
Yeah Yeah I'm a sucka$$, but I do live on 1614's beat and see which way the area is headed
you want to be a dog? bid out to 002, 012, 025 or whatever district have bad commanders
9/19/2017 08:00:00 AM
Lol! It sounds like you better start contacting the union and pushing to get that residency rule lifted boyo. So, doing ISRs will help out in 016? How so? Especially with its lack of manpower, sending not only gang and tac, but also blue shirts to various fests, details, etc.? Typical jackoff CPD management that cuts manpower to the bone, then expects skeleton crews to work miracles on the home front. Sorry, but you are delusional and in denial.
""Anonymous said...
I'm not saying it was cool what he did but for gods sake you can't write one single ISR in 10 months?? If this supervisor really wants to take it to the next level then review the officers entire tour of in car and body worn cameras. If you seen one instance on video where an ISR should have been done and wasn't then get a beef. If your not gonna go that far boss then stfu. Nobody is right here. Lazy coppers making 90-100 k a year and stroke bosses.""
Boy your a dumb shit. You must have a white shirt. We have the DOJ up our ass's for those dumb shit contact cards and were lucky 1/2 the Dept. doesn't get indicted for them for back when MR. NYNY was running the show. When sharp dog linked them to your OT status we had guys writing them on people who wanted case reports. We had narratives like "M/01 running across the street". We had upstairs Barbie Dolls nobody even knew were in the District demanding cars so they could run out and write up the first M/01 they could safely write. I bet over 50% of the PC was all Bullshit, most of all on nights the Tac teams wanted to watch the Hawks.
Imbeciles in this Dept. never fucking Learn. The best pinches were always made when there was no PC until you could hit the station and think some up. Well the world is on video now and if your caught Lieing then your gone, bagging groceries at Jewel if your lucky. You think the Boss's are going to back you then?
And if you think all these ISR's written now are legit then your fucking nuts. You'd better hope they don't "monitor/review camera's" on the ones who are writing them instead of the ones who aren't. Dumb shits never learn.
Every ISR should include that this report is being generated by order of Lt so and so or the commander. They won't approve it and make you change it but it's remains in the system. After a few of those they will beg you not to write ISRs anymore.
Hello COPA. My name is officer Fetal. I was once what some refer to as, a "go getter." Hell, sometimes I even wore jeans to work. I made 100 arrests a year give or take. In 2014 a strange thing happened. It became a crime for a white policeman like myself to do our job. The narrative of the black man being "murdered" by the white cop grew louder and louder as Obama and the media began their final push for a race war. Now in the age of Trump the leftists have not retreated in defeat, they have doubled down in their retoric and violence. They with the aid of the media have now labeled any Trump supporter as a Nazi, even the black ones. And so here we sit. The reckless lying media and the shameless politicians have marched us to the brink of civil war. Officers have been assassinated. Others thrown under the bus and persecuted for simply doing their job. Cities thrown into violent chaos over thugs with guns getting justifiably shot by the police, or an accidental death of a heroin dealer in a police wagon. Cops getting fired over the suicide of a woman who just couldn't be bothered to obey the law and follow simple directions. But I digress. The police have been abandoned and marginalized in America. All to pander to the race baitors and social justice warriors that have taken over most of the country. I've traded my handcuffs for a smart phone. You libtards are reaping the fucking whirlwind.
Sorry for the rambling.
You're just as bad as the citizen who thinks he knows my job and what I'm doing. I'll bet you say how you "never see a squad car go past your house" too. Damn lazy coppers, sitting around while you work your ass off every second of every tour! You should go up there and show them how it's done!
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whenever you have any kind interaction with a possible criminal related to a call or anything else you need to fill out an ISR. If youre not doing that then youre not doing your job. If you haven't been face to face with a possible offender or someone related to a crime or investigation that calls for an ISR in almost TEN MONTHS then yes... YOU are absolutely lazy. If you are way to burdended to do your job and fill in the boxes on the computer screen that takes 3-5 minutes.. don't say 45 because don't forget, we are all coppers here and we know its not much different then entering old contact cards in the computer. I guarantee you have not problem filling in all the boxes on the computer when shopping online, booking a flight or anything else related to the internet right??? But when you have to do it at work you all of a sudden become computer illiterate. Face it, you make 90-100k a year and don't do anything and you ask the world from citizens, the government and anyone else who will listen to the poor, poor picked on policeman. Give me a break. You are the police too right? You sound like the typical pud who doesn't do anything but tells war stories to your family at thanksgiving dinner and friends who aren't cops. You wear CPD tee shirts off duty and act hard to EVERYONE when you are on duty. You wonder why we are "picked on" and everyone hates us?? Case in point, I get out of working a craphole district and get VRI on Michigan ave and I hear how coppers talk to tourists and normal working people who are downtown and might ask directions. One copper snaps on a man and woman from out of town asking directions by saying, "hey this is 2017 use your GPS on your phone, I don't get paid to be your personal mapquest." Really??? You wonder why we are hated??? Its not just this guy either. we are hated in the ghetto because we act the same if not worst however I understand the stresses as Ive worked in the ghetto going on 23 years now. What I have learned that no matter how big of a piece of garbage someone is I still talk to them like I give a crap, which I usually don't. But you treat tourists and good people like dirt and you are going to be hated.. forever. This is why I like being a cop, but I still hate about 95 percent of the cops on this job. complete geeks.
So go down on an ISR for an hour or so, write a couple of parkers, go to lunch, write a couple of parkers, go down on an ISR for another hour or so, take a personal, do a CTA check and go in for check off. How hard is that?
Sorry that 016 is going to shit..but thank your alderman for that! Don't blame the police officers..they are in self preservation mode!
To you cops pleading about protecting the Homefront in 016, I know how you feel. We went through the same shit living in 008 and 022. This City is done..someone put a fork in her.
Thanks Rahm!!!!
So what do call someone who hasn't been on medical in 15 years works in busy district on 2nd watch handles reports back up everyone doesn't need a sgt to tell him anything. But no isrs but plenty of tickets
Time is over due for a blue flu epidemic. Enough. No leadership at the top protecting Chicago lawmen. Jack ass fucking pussy mayor. No balls tiny dancer thats your boss. Good luck.
I don't understand why this Lt isn't jammed up? You can't put that stuff over the PDT. It's also a public shaming creating a hostile work environment. Besides you can't shame people over a quota. 95% of the bosses have a secret verbal shaming over the quota but this guy put it over the PDT. I thought there was a general order on that? I'm sure POs have been jammed for much less on the PDT. Is it still different rules for different folks?
Hopefully they sue the hell out of the city and the Lt. Hostile work environment?
Eddie Hicks got picked up in Detroit.
Anonymous said...
I'm not saying it was cool what he did but for gods sake you can't write one single ISR in 10 months?? If this supervisor really wants to take it to the next level then review the officers entire tour of in car and body worn cameras. If you seen one instance on video where an ISR should have been done and wasn't then get a beef. If your not gonna go that far boss then stfu. Nobody is right here. Lazy coppers making 90-100 k a year and stroke bosses.""
Boy your a dumb shit. You must have a white shirt. We have the DOJ up our ass's for those dumb shit contact cards and were lucky 1/2 the Dept. doesn't get indicted for them for back when MR. NYNY was running the show. When sharp dog linked them to your OT status we had guys writing them on people who wanted case reports. We had narratives like "M/01 running across the street". We had upstairs Barbie Dolls nobody even knew were in the District demanding cars so they could run out and write up the first M/01 they could safely write. I bet over 50% of the PC was all Bullshit, most of all on nights the Tac teams wanted to watch the Hawks.
Imbeciles in this Dept. never fucking Learn. The best pinches were always made when there was no PC until you could hit the station and think some up. Well the world is on video now and if your caught Lieing then your gone, bagging groceries at Jewel if your lucky. You think the Boss's are going to back you then?
And if you think all these ISR's written now are legit then your fucking nuts. You'd better hope they don't "monitor/review camera's" on the ones who are writing them instead of the ones who aren't. Dumb shits never learn
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A FREAKIN MEN!!! The above poster is dead spot on.
Put a fork in that suburbanite RAHM
THIS IS OUR CITY
let all the people that love Chicago , VOTE the Bum out
This is why I like being a cop, but I still hate about 95 percent of the cops on this job. complete geeks.
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So your the only one who knows how to do the job, and the reason police are hated is because of how they treat people except you because you put on an act and treat them great after 23 years in the ghetto. I think your full of shit but if your not you are a complete narcissist and should get help. Other famous narcissist are Robert Hanssen ( a former CPD and son of a CPD who lived in 016) Ted Bundy (also a sociopath) Lee Harvey Oswald and Madonna just to name a few. Do you see where your illness is leading. so please take the advice or just go fuck yourself.
O.T Why is there a p.o as a court sergeant at grand/central court? And what is the p.o job if I check in and out with a civilian? And I give the civilian my slip too!
Off topic but how much of their budget is COPA using on advertising? I've heard a commercial on the radio, and seen a couple bus stop COPA adds. Is this just extra money? I mean we need to make sure the accounting is on the up and up at a police oversight office. It is Chicago, government money never just disappears right? Who is overseeing the overseers?
9/19/2017 01:06:00 PM
Why do they need to advertise????? What a waste of money
Add this name to the CPD wall of shame.
Former Chicago police Sgt. Eddie Hicks was arrested in Detroit on Sept. 19, 2017, after 15 years on the lam. (FBI)
9/19/2017 04:53:00 PM
Back in the late 60's and early 70's, he was a good guy with a great sense of humor. Those were the days of south side white 10-1's and black 10-1's (ask an old timer) but when Eddie was on the job, he did not care about color. He's be there for you and on an ungodly hot summer night in the poorer parts of town when shit went bad quick, you were happy to see reinforcements regardless of their color.
That said, it was a way different day and this is now. Sad to say, Eddie was a good guy who apparently went bad and I am sad that it happened, but there was a time he was a good police officer and he made the tour seem like one hour, instead of 8.5+ hours. I wish him luck in the next portion of his life.
OT: if any of you guys know Phil Williams from CHA, he passed last Friday. Services are Saturday in South Holland. He was still working and getting ready to call it quits by year's end. It's really sad.
nonymous said...
I live in 16 and havn't seen a beat car in a year. You police where the police live and respect you. Stop people, do your damn job or go to a place where the police don't live. I understand the district is short but at least drive around, make yourselves visable. We live here.
9/19/2017 11:08:00 AM
Tough talk, cowboy. The district is 32 square miles, the size of some suburbs. The majority of cars are down because of details. Imagine if you are on 1631 and get a call at 5600 Milwaukee or at 7200 Harlem with rush hour traffic? Must the beat cars have lights on to every call then fly back to their beat to drive up and down every street for visibility? 016 is lucky to have two beat cars up covering anything west of Nagle Ave every day. If a car needed assistance while on Cumberland Ave, the only assist they might have are the suburbs, county or state police. I remember the forest police giving me assists with in progress calls. But I will make sure to drive every street so the OD coppers can see me and feel safe. Now go back to your mother's basement and STFU
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This guy should be moved immediately, he is a horrible manager and doesn't want any responsibility whatsoever. Will not even sign a time due slip!! He constantly talks down to officers and fellow supervisors. He micromanages to the extreme and is NEVER on the scene he is managing. He always supersedes his sergeants and doesn't let them do their jobs. He needs to be moved immediately as the good hard working officers of the 016th dostrict who make the commander look good are sick and tired of this guys bullshit and the work will eventually stop. You better do something about this guy otherwise your compstat numbers may increase sooner or later.
9/19/2017 10:31:00 AM
After reading the above comment, I now believe the earlier comment that stated he was Bubblehead's cousin.
Bubblehead and Conehead are cousins? Appropriate since they bothe like to play "heads games" with the officers in their districts.
""But you treat tourists and good people like dirt and you are going to be hated.. forever. This is why I like being a cop, but I still hate about 95 percent of the cops on this job. complete geeks.
9/19/2017 07:17:00 PM""
You kinda sound mildly retarded. But keep pumping out those ISR's, which BTW are a "stop". You are taking someones freedom to leave away and entering them into a Police data base. One day someone at the DOJ will get around to checking up on those who pump those things out and you out of your mind if you think they are going to give you a pass a 2nd time cause "crime is up".
So you work in a district where 20% of the residents are black and 60% of your ISR's are on black people? Lotsa luck crime fighter.
"Answer your calls and that's it. I and another copper and Sgt all got lawsuits walking out the door. They are both retired and I'm going soon. And now the city does NOT cover any judgements against you. Now for free representation by city law department you have to sign a waiver stating you've been informed on the new policy. BEWARE GUYS."
So if this is true The city lawyer is really representing the city and NOT YOU. He can't have both best interests at heart. It is over boys. They have made it impossible to do police work. Don't lose your job, assets and possibly freedom for these ingrates. And I do not feel sorry for the citizens who all voted for these democratic progressive police hating know nothings.
You're just as bad as the citizen who thinks he knows my job and what I'm doing. I'll bet you say how you "never see a squad car go past your house" too. Damn lazy coppers, sitting around while you work your ass off every second of every tour! You should go up there and show them how it's done!
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whenever you have any kind interaction with a possible criminal related to a call or anything else you need to fill out an ISR. If youre not doing that then youre not doing your job. If you haven't been face to face with a possible offender or someone related to a crime or investigation that calls for an ISR in almost TEN MONTHS then yes... YOU are absolutely lazy. If you are way to burdended to do your job and fill in the boxes on the computer screen that takes 3-5 minutes.. don't say 45 because don't forget, we are all coppers here and we know its not much different then entering old contact cards in the computer. I guarantee you have not problem filling in all the boxes on the computer when shopping online, booking a flight or anything else related to the internet right??? But when you have to do it at work you all of a sudden become computer illiterate. Face it, you make 90-100k a year and don't do anything and you ask the world from citizens, the government and anyone else who will listen to the poor, poor picked on policeman. Give me a break. You are the police too right? You sound like the typical pud who doesn't do anything but tells war stories to your family at thanksgiving dinner and friends who aren't cops. You wear CPD tee shirts off duty and act hard to EVERYONE when you are on duty. You wonder why we are "picked on" and everyone hates us?? Case in point, I get out of working a craphole district and get VRI on Michigan ave and I hear how coppers talk to tourists and normal working people who are downtown and might ask directions. One copper snaps on a man and woman from out of town asking directions by saying, "hey this is 2017 use your GPS on your phone, I don't get paid to be your personal mapquest." Really??? You wonder why we are hated??? Its not just this guy either. we are hated in the ghetto because we act the same if not worst however I understand the stresses as Ive worked in the ghetto going on 23 years now. What I have learned that no matter how big of a piece of garbage someone is I still talk to them like I give a crap, which I usually don't. But you treat tourists and good people like dirt and you are going to be hated.. forever. This is why I like being a cop, but I still hate about 95 percent of the cops on this job. complete geeks.
9/19/2017 07:17:00 PM
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Respond to call.
Speak to victim.
Render Aid.
Radio flash message.
Generate report.
Advise warrant/oop.
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Notice nowhere is there an ISR.
Even if the offender is still on scene, the victim states "I want her/him arrested while pointing at her/him".
Thus, still no ISR.
It's blue shirt beat car policing in 2017.
The change has come.
Blame it one....Obama, communists, ACLU, democrats, SJW's, NAACP, La Raza, CAIR, Loevy & Loevy, liberal media, homeless advocates, CTU, nation of islam, and on and on. You get the picture.
Keep hiring police with full tattoo sleeves, piercings, 5'05"/ 135 lbs, broken English skills, shattered credit, painted nails/hair do's, and see the result.
To all you coppers crying about officers not doing police work the way you want it to be done in your neighborhood because police live there, kiss my ass and go pound sand.
They'll do the job to the best of their ability, but dont expect any copper in this day and age to go above and beyond with the proactive bullshit. You can get jammed up just as quickly working in 016 as you can working in 011.
So pardon me when I tell you to FUCK OFF!
(OT) just found the answer page to Mark Brown's, Chicago Sun-Times today about the homeless, they are being removed due to not having a permit! So the mayor will let the violent protesters caused damage here stop people from going where they need to go without permits but yet the homeless people are throwing out! In the article it states that the homeless attempted to go somewhere else but were told they would be arrested because they have no Permit! So The elected pander to the criminals and obstructionist but yet the homeless people are just discarded guess they can't vote or they won't vote or can't be bought what a disgrace!
9/19/2017 09:45:00 AM
You're an idiot who doesn't know what they're talking about. A troll, I suspect. Mark Brown couldn't care less about the homeless situation, and should STFU.
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I live in 16 and havn't seen a beat car in a year. You police where the police live and respect you. Stop people, do your damn job or go to a place where the police don't live. I understand the district is short but at least drive around, make yourselves visable. We live here.
9/19/2017 11:08:00 AM
Tough talk, cowboy. The district is 32 square miles, the size of some suburbs. The majority of cars are down because of details. Imagine if you are on 1631 and get a call at 5600 Milwaukee or at 7200 Harlem with rush hour traffic? Must the beat cars have lights on to every call then fly back to their beat to drive up and down every street for visibility? 016 is lucky to have two beat cars up covering anything west of Nagle Ave every day. If a car needed assistance while on Cumberland Ave, the only assist they might have are the suburbs, county or state police. I remember the forest police giving me assists with in progress calls. But I will make sure to drive every street so the OD coppers can see me and feel safe. Now go back to your mother's basement and STFU
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Hahaha. Poor poor you. Feel free to come to 008 where you can be at 87th and western and have to get to a job at 54th and Harlem as I had to do last week. You ever drive in parts of 008?? It's like driving through Guadalajara. Traffic is worse than downtown in some spots. Quit your crying and do your job. There is a reason you have lights and sirens. If you choose not to use them then that's your fault. Face it, no matter all the excuses it always comes back to one thing you all try to avoid talking about... laziness.
Anonymous said...
we are hated in the ghetto because we act the same if not worst however I understand the stresses as Ive worked in the ghetto going on 23 years now. What I have learned that no matter how big of a piece of garbage someone is I still talk to them like I give a crap, which I usually don't. But you treat tourists and good people like dirt and you are going to be hated.. forever. This is why I like being a cop, but I still hate about 95 percent of the cops on this job. complete geeks.
9/19/2017 07:17:00 PM
The first telltale sign of a kid who has no time on the job but is all puffed-up because he works in the ghetto is talking about "your time on the job in the ghetto". And I don't care about your fibbing, your complete disconnect from reality or the fact that you "hate about 95 percent of the cops on this job" - I'll still blue-light my ass off to come save you when you poke your shiny new ASP in the wrong guys face and he gives it back to you. Now, eat the grilled cheese your mommy just made you and get back to playing video games!
What that Lt. did was absolutely wrong and goes against anything taught in Management 101. With that said, how can anyone in a beat car go 10 months without doing an ISR? It boggles my mind. I understand not going above and beyond in this job anymore, but you at least have to go answer your calls and do your job once your there. I find it very hard to believe that in 10 months of working any beat on any watch in the city that you haven't come across a situation that would require an ISR per the new general order. Per the general order, if you are in a situation that requires one and you don't do one, than you are opening yourself up to disciplinary action. And for what? Because you don't want to take the 10-15 minutes extra to fill it out. It's not that hard and after you do one its even easier. It's not worth the potential disciplinary action against you for not doing one, especially when it is spelled out for you in the general order with examples. BTW I'm not a numbers guy and don't believe that ISR's should be looked at that way. Protect the homeland up there and be careful.
A copper called out Konehead on the radio the same day this happened
I think thiis last pdt transmission naming names is worthy of a lawsuit.
Anonymous said...
To all you coppers crying about officers not doing police work the way you want it to be done in your neighborhood because police live there, kiss my ass and go pound sand.
They'll do the job to the best of their ability, but dont expect any copper in this day and age to go above and beyond with the proactive bullshit. You can get jammed up just as quickly working in 016 as you can working in 011.
So pardon me when I tell you to FUCK OFF!
9/20/2017 07:59:00 AM
Save your breath.
The simple-minds just cannot wrap themselves around
what you and others are trying to convey to them.
Re:actions bite our ass. Why give them the ability to do that?
9/19/2017 11:43:00 AM
You must not have a lot of time on the job or have spent your whole career in a place like 020. What the hell are you talking about?! Bosses will go through body cameras to investigate lack of ISRs?! Please. Do you check under your bed at night for the boogey man?
No dummy, what I'm saying is they could do it and IF they do, you will get jammed up. Very few bosses want to, but when it comes down that they WILL do it, then yes, they will. Why would they take a hit for someone else's intentional inaction? Keep up the zeros and it will be handed down to pick out the officers with zeros, run the jobs they handled and review their car and body cams. When it shows they failed to take the appropriate action, discipline them. Thats when the boss will do it. So, yea dummy, I do think they will, if they have to. You would be very surprised at who I am, and how long I actually have on thisnjob. Thats probably why you're the dummy and I'm not.
Lt. Bob Koenen, what an elitist, clueless, spineless, typical upper echelon CPD boss!! He's one of the biggest scammers out there! Usually hiding at home, talks shit on the PDT and tells SGT.s to fuck with the lowly blue shirts. You stand up to him face to face, he'll piss himself! He was on CPD car camera video in his pajamas driving a newly abandoned hot car, fuck the prints I guess. Then he drives the hot car onto his neighbor's lawn after someone had spotted the offender! Good ole CPD upper management immediately covered it up! If that was a blue shirt, God forbid! 30 days pending.
And...who the hell is writing all the ISRs on days in 016?
You kinda sound mildly retarded. But keep pumping out those ISR's, which BTW are a "stop". You are taking someones freedom to leave away and entering them into a Police data base. One day someone at the DOJ will get around to checking up on those who pump those things out and you out of your mind if you think they are going to give you a pass a 2nd time cause "crime is up".
So you work in a district where 20% of the residents are black and 60% of your ISR's are on black people? Lotsa luck crime fighter.
9/20/2017 05:10:00 AM
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Read the order on the ISR's Once you have determined there is no criminal activity underfoot, you must let the person go immediately. You can not continue to 'stop' them to fill out your paperwork.
So, IF you do an ISR - put lots of UNK's in it and put in the narrative "Per SO 04-13-09 Procedures: VIII A6 - R/O has no further information on DOE John, because Reasonable Articulable Suspicion no longer existed" as R/O's investigation "dispelled R/O's Reasonable Articulable Suspicion of criminal activity", and therefore DOE, John was continued on his way.
Ban Hollywood ,Ban NFL, Ban the bullshit. Actress BLAMES Trump for Natural Disasters.
Hahaha. Poor poor you. Feel free to come to 008 where you can be at 87th and western and have to get to a job at 54th and Harlem as I had to do last week. You ever drive in parts of 008?? It's like driving through Guadalajara. Traffic is worse than downtown in some spots. Quit your crying and do your job. There is a reason you have lights and sirens. If you choose not to use them then that's your fault. Face it, no matter all the excuses it always comes back to one thing you all try to avoid talking about... laziness
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Maybe when you get some time on kid you too can go to a nicer district. And if you have the time and don't choose to, then just shut the fuck up because no one is impressed!
Tough talk, cowboy. The district is 32 square miles, the size of some suburbs. The majority of cars are down because of details. Imagine if you are on 1631 and get a call at 5600 Milwaukee or at 7200 Harlem with rush hour traffic? Must the beat cars have lights on to every call then fly back to their beat to drive up and down every street for visibility? 016 is lucky to have two beat cars up covering anything west of Nagle Ave every day. If a car needed assistance while on Cumberland Ave, the only assist they might have are the suburbs, county or state police. I remember the forest police giving me assists with in progress calls. But I will make sure to drive every street so the OD coppers can see me and feel safe. Now go back to your mother's basement and STFU
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Hahaha. Poor poor you. Feel free to come to 008 where you can be at 87th and western and have to get to a job at 54th and Harlem as I had to do last week. You ever drive in parts of 008?? It's like driving through Guadalajara. Traffic is worse than downtown in some spots. Quit your crying and do your job. There is a reason you have lights and sirens. If you choose not to use them then that's your fault. Face it, no matter all the excuses it always comes back to one thing you all try to avoid talking about... laziness.
9/20/2017 09:16:00 AM
I realize that no matter what officers will do or how hard they work, ODPO's are never satisfied. Whether in 016, 008, 022, they always complain about the beat cars. They never see them. Of course, thank you for slamming another working officer. Typical of the CPD. I know the layout of 008. I will do my job in 016 and keep an eye on my house and those of my neighbors.
"Hahaha. Poor poor you. Feel free to come to 008 where you can be at 87th and western and have to get to a job at 54th and Harlem as I had to do last week. You ever drive in parts of 008?? It's like driving through Guadalajara. Traffic is worse than downtown in some spots. Quit your crying and do your job. There is a reason you have lights and sirens. If you choose not to use them then that's your fault. Face it, no matter all the excuses it always comes back to one thing you all try to avoid talking about... laziness."
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lol this guy thinking he's all hard working in 008? Congratulations how about a participation trophy? Feel free to come to 015 if you are so hard. Lets all brag about what shitty district we all work in..
I for one am retired CPD and reside in 016. I see the police all the time usually when I'm walking my dog at the park. Shopping, driving, etc they are around. I can further say that any interaction with them they are always polite and accommodating and have never had a bad experience with one
Maybe I should be happy I don't see them all the time because that would indicate to me that I live in a low crime area and they are out fighting crime somewhere else.
Last comment. I'm sure a lot of other ODPO and retired CPD feel the same and have had similar experiences, but the blog seems to attract the complainers
statue does not apply to CPD we are too big
boy oh boy what a knucklehead
Hahaha. Poor poor you. Feel free to come to 008 where you can be at 87th and western and have to get to a job at 54th and Harlem as I had to do last week. You ever drive in parts of 008?? It's like driving through Guadalajara. Traffic is worse than downtown in some spots. Quit your crying and do your job. There is a reason you have lights and sirens. If you choose not to use them then that's your fault. Face it, no matter all the excuses it always comes back to one thing you all try to avoid talking about... laziness
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Maybe when you get some time on kid you too can go to a nicer district. And if you have the time and don't choose to, then just shut the fuck up because no one is impressed!
9/21/2017 12:32:00 AM
I love when morons try to"treat" you by omitting the comment you responded too in the first place. You are like arguing with dude, a never ending circle of dumb.
Anonymous said...
we are hated in the ghetto because we act the same if not worst however I understand the stresses as Ive worked in the ghetto going on 23 years now. What I have learned that no matter how big of a piece of garbage someone is I still talk to them like I give a crap, which I usually don't. But you treat tourists and good people like dirt and you are going to be hated.. forever. This is why I like being a cop, but I still hate about 95 percent of the cops on this job. complete geeks.
9/19/2017 07:17:00 PM
The first telltale sign of a kid who has no time on the job but is all puffed-up because he works in the ghetto is talking about "your time on the job in the ghetto". And I don't care about your fibbing, your complete disconnect from reality or the fact that you "hate about 95 percent of the cops on this job" - I'll still blue-light my ass off to come save you when you poke your shiny new ASP in the wrong guys face and he gives it back to you. Now, eat the grilled cheese your mommy just made you and get back to playing video games!
9/20/2017 09:16:00 AM
Wow. You seem to be able to recognize letter patterns but cannot understand words.
boy oh boy what a knucklehead
and three cheers for the troops holding the line with zeros. Remember our beat slug motto..."A HERO BRINGS A ZERO". The rest of you should hold the line. and your reply when questioned should be ISR s are like a rollercoaster.. peaks and valleys. and right now we in a deep deep valley bro
statue does not apply to CPD we are too big
9/21/2017 01:34:00 PM
Which statue idiot? Lincoln or Grant?
Word has it cone head kohnen got the smack down from Capt Hoot today and he was seen walking out of 016 with his tail between his legs. Supposedly for this last dunce move. His days are numbered, captains are being made to run the watches again and he must have a brick on himself because he's not on the list. Back to 1690 unless he wises up and pulls the plug on his dead career.
The Lt's approach lacks leadership and defies good sense, but the statute doesn't apply to Chicago. Further down in that same section of ILCS:
This Section shall not apply to a municipality subject to Section 10-1-18.1 of this Code [municipalities over 500k] with its own independent inspector general [Chicago has one] and law enforcement review authority [he has it].
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