Tuesday, October 03, 2017

Ferguson Effect - New York

  • Cops in some crime-ridden South Bronx neighborhoods have all but abandoned aggressive or intuitive policing — to avoid getting sued or otherwise derailing their careers, officers admitted to The Post.

    The dangerous hands-off approach in the NYPD’s 42nd Precinct is reflected in official crime statistics, which show that shootings are up dramatically there.

    “Usually, when you have people peddling hard drugs, you have guns nearby, inside a car or an apartment,’’ a precinct cop said.

    But instead of being “proactive’’ in such cases, “I try to minimize incidents where I can get in trouble,” the officer said.

    “It’s kind of sad, but it’s career preservation.”
And who is to blame?
  • Cops throughout the 42nd Precinct, which covers the Morrisania section, are steering clear of encounters that could land them in court or in front of the city’s Civilian Complaint Review Board for alleged brutality, a law-enforcement source said.

    “Police officers are afraid to do their job because they’re afraid of being sued and possibly arrested and prosecuted,’’ the source said. “Basically, the Bronx DA has made it open season on officers in the 42nd Precinct, emboldening perps to go out and commit these violent crimes.”
If you make enemies of your police, you better make friends with the criminals.

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46 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Comrade Bill DeBlasio approves this message.

10/03/2017 12:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Welcome to the Party, Pal!"

10/03/2017 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good for them. Don't do shit guys. Wait for the pendulum to swing back lol.

10/03/2017 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

"If you make enemies of your police,
you better make friends with the criminals."


THIS.
Is what happens when the un-satisfiable
are sufficiently politically weaponized
and allowed a "seat at the table" to
dictate Police operations and
Public Safety policy.

Just y'all wait for the other shitty
shoe to drop...

"We suin' cuz y'all refusin' to interact
with us thereby denyin' us Po-leece
service an' shit..."

Call it what it is.

They want "fubu" Policing.
For Us (Only) By Us (Only).

"Honkies, Conservatives and y'all other
'Free Thinkers' need not bother applying"

"Reparations or BUST!
De-fund da Po-leece an'
gives dey money to US!"

Let the "select" among THEM, patrol the
violent, hate-ridden shit piles
they breed and feed in.

The rest of everybody else will just
have to learn to ignore the screams.

It'll get quiet in under a generation.

Or they'll emerge from the ruins
waving anything passably white
trying to attract the attention
of civilized society after civilized
society has once and for all decided to move on...

Duly noted and passed along, SCC...

Police Like You Have No Friends.

10/03/2017 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its across the whole country. Stay fetal. No good can come of trying to be proactive.

10/03/2017 12:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The brass and politicians see us as expendable. Asa's and judges are immune, you are not. Plus we live in an overwhelming liberal and litigious society.

At this point, we are beyond the fun and games where we said STAY FETAL.

Now it's, DON'T DO SHIT!

10/03/2017 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If you make enemies of your police, you better make friends with the criminals."

May I steal this quote SCC? never have more true words been spoken.

10/03/2017 01:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Bronx DA is a pox upon our society

10/03/2017 03:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Politicians = criminals
Judges= politically connected puppets
Media= propaganda pushers of globalist left
Blacks= pawns of the left
Middle class= targeted for removal
Democrats= communist/ socialist/ globalist
Republicans= in bed with Globalists

Trump= American 🍕

10/03/2017 05:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Soon coming to a neighborhood near you......It's OVER FOLKS...The Left Loonies won...

10/03/2017 07:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The liberals are winning. They controlling the major urban area of our country and allowing this anti police agenda to be carried out. As long as they start peace circles and use more African American officers in those precincts who understand the community everything will be okay.

10/03/2017 07:21:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

Don't say perps.

10/03/2017 07:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The difference between the NY and Chicago, is we have Rahm watching our backs.

10/03/2017 07:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This was all predicted in the book Camp of the Saints. ♠️

10/03/2017 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

duhhhhh, the guys in the 42nd are smart & their lead should be followed...Why destroy your life (& your families life) trying to improve the lifes of criminal tribes who want you dead ?

Let'em predate themselves & hopefully kill each other off...no 1st responders of any kind should ever go into any sub-saharan conquered territory. There's gotta be a million ways not to respond

Take a tip from the NFL, just take a knee at the borderline of your local hood

10/03/2017 07:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Never thought I'd say this, but I'd rather make friends with many of the criminals I know than with Rahm. I have more respect for most of the crooks I arrest than I do the dishonorable midget.

10/03/2017 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My partner and I are proactive. As long as you follow the law you are covered.

10/03/2017 08:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And people wonder who NY police turned their backs on DeBlasio at any officers funeral.

NOT ILLINOIS. NOT LAW.


10/03/2017 08:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Same thing here in Chicago!

No way I'm going to stick my neck out, put my career on the line, risk jail, lose my job and pension for some scumbag criminal that Rahm and ilk will support over any police officer!

Fuck Off!

10/03/2017 09:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AG Jeff Sessions mentioned the Ferguson Effect during a speech at Howard University.

He and the idea were denounced as racist.

So that means we have to pretend that it doesn't exist. We mustn't offend anyone by speaking the truth.

10/03/2017 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The divided states of America. Most big cities are poop!💩The country is a nicer place. The suburbs are better too. City dwellers are too angry at the world..... most of their anger is toward the people attempting to help them🤔.

10/03/2017 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the mayor there loves to throw his cops under the bus each time he sees a reporter,stay fetal my brothers,they only want you when the shit hits the fan,let them work their own problems out,

10/03/2017 09:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Effingham J. Bellwether said...

I like the police like you have friends guys posts.

10/03/2017 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Blue jean police & rookies
(we have rookies with 10-12 years)
Pay attention.

It's not just an old CPD do nothing "dog" telling you to be fetal.
The NYPD is telling you proactive police work is dead.

Remember 4 words:
suspension, separation, prison, family.




10/03/2017 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't blame them one bit. Anything a Police Officer does is recorded by cell phones from 15 different directions. The one that looks the worst for the cop will be the one on MSM.
Screw it! Let them police themselves until they can't stand themselves and start begging for law and order.

J.J.

10/03/2017 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Theses assholes are also tell the cream of society to not be the police-- you can get a family friendly job that pays similar today-- shit get a job at google or Apple. Take some computer or IT classes at any college

10/03/2017 12:17:00 PM  
Anonymous bratton fan said...

And yet New York's murder rate has continued to fall. I don't disagree with you, SCC. Yet it's pretty interesting how differently things have played out in different places. Yeah, the one precinct they're talking about has seen shootings and murders "skyrocket." But the increase was from 14 to 23 shootings and from 2 to 6 murders. Awful. But small enough that it's hard to know whether it's a statistical blip or a meaningful change.

Clearly Chicago's murder rate shot up exactly when proactive policing was killed off. And I believe that is cause and effect, though for some reason, no one will even touch that idea in local media.

I would argue that if you establish the monopoly on force first, as New York had, then you can use softer police tactics. Chicago not only never got the numbers down, we never got the clearance rate very high. They have a very high clearance rate, which implies substantial community cooperation. We never established any of the conditions under which one could soften tactics.

10/03/2017 12:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

stay fetal. fuck activity!

10/03/2017 12:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only 8 comments on this???

Remember victims, Rham and friends will get paid as he dances out the door hopefully this next election. Don't allow him to have it so easy to allow it to continue. Make your voices be heard!

10/03/2017 12:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothing on view , gangs are doing a good job passing out the death penalty .
Black thugs are leaving working class , poor neighborhoods to rob,rape the snow flakes in Lincoln Park ,Bucktown ,Logan Square and Lake View . Also found easy targets in boystown . These young men may be high school drop outs , drug users but are smart enough to know where the snowflakes and liberals live .

10/03/2017 01:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is a reason Chicago has more shootings and murders than New York City and Los Angeles combined and that's a population 8 times that of our Chicago.

New York City has or had some institutions that are strongly anti crime and pro police.

New York City has

The Manhattan Institute (Antif and BlackLiesMatter riot on campuses where Manhattan Institute spokesmen are scheduled to speak)

The New York Post - populist Conservative (though Neo Conservative, Zionist in foreign policy, bad on immigration)

The last two mayors before this Santinista loving Lib coal burner mayor DeBlasio Mayor Bloomberg and Mayor Guliani were no nonsense about crime, backed the police in encounters with criminals, mau mauling Black demagogues like Rev. Al Sharpton.

10/03/2017 01:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous Anonymous said...
The Bronx DA is a pox upon our society"

I respond:


Where does he live, hang out, play golf, who does he sleep with?

We have to fight in the effective ways the Left in this country fights dirty.

Learn to dox.

Publish the personal information of known enemies.

The enemies of our police the promoters of the worst criminals and communists, they need to have their personal lives upset.

10/03/2017 02:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm and all the anti police assholes around here should take heed to the last line that SCC added.

10/03/2017 02:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hillary would be proud!..

10/03/2017 03:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are so many good things in New York City that we need here. Practical people in positions of influence that can get things done.

Look at this gem from the NY Post:

"From the New York Post:

City offering to pay homeless a year’s worth of rent if they leave town

By Yoav Gonen September 29, 2017 | 9:04pm

The city wants the homeless to get out of town — and is offering to pay a full year’s rent to those willing to abandon the five boroughs.

Under a pilot program quietly launched last month, shelter residents who have been in the system for at least 90 days and have a source of income can get 12 months of rent paid up-front virtually anywhere they can find an apartment.

Their travel expenses to vamoose would also be paid under a program already in place known as Project Reconnect. …

In the past five years, the city has paid $1.2 million in travel expenses — the only expense that was previously covered — for 2,512 families who relocated outside the five boroughs. Last year, the top destinations were Florida, Puerto Rico and North Carolina, according to DHS."

10/03/2017 04:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Next the RULING class will move into heavily armed fortresses and leave the rest of us fend for ourselves.

10/03/2017 04:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They're probably experiencing the same lenient prosecutorial and ineptitude as us too.
Screw the ghetto.
Arrest isn't the answer.
Democrats know what's best.

10/03/2017 06:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"My partner and I are proactive. As long as you follow the law you are covered."
Until you're NOT

If you get it, no explanation is necessay
If you don't get it (and you don't) NO explanation is POSSIBLE
P.S. Your actions can be lawful by statute but you'll be fired and sued for rule and department policy violations which are more onerous

10/03/2017 07:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

0bama's Legacy.

10/03/2017 08:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They really do say "perps" in New York.

10/03/2017 08:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NYPD getting ready for Christmas,
going into Adam Hat Stores to buy
miniature hats to be used as gift
certificates.
......you have been transported back to
the year 1946. consider yourself fortunate.
(only here on SCC, your source for news
and relaxation, and an occasional reflection
back to better times)

10/03/2017 10:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Go ahead, knock this battery off my shoulder.
I dare you."
.......Robert Conrad
1977 Eveready Battery Commercial
(only the best here, folks. we have a deep,
deep vault)

10/03/2017 10:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ferguson effect ALL DAY!!! It's all about self preservation it the liberal way! Who the fuck wants to be in the paper with sum asshole liberal Monday morning quarterbacking what he or she did fuck that you have to turn a blind to it unfortunately police will adapt hence the state of our cesspool city!!!

10/04/2017 03:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the *My partner and I follow the law..." sure you might no go to jail but look at JVD. He shoots an armed offender and all was approved by Special Ed and look at JVD now. He's going to trial.

10/04/2017 07:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Same thing here in Chicago!

No way I'm going to stick my neck out, put my career on the line, risk jail, lose my job and pension for some scumbag criminal that Rahm and ilk will support over any police officer!

Fuck Off!

10/03/2017 09:03:00 AM

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especially if it's a juvenile who gets probation for Armed Robb - simply not worth it

10/04/2017 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“I would argue that if you establish the monopoly on force first, as New York had, then you can use softer police tactics. Chicago not only never got the numbers down, we never got the clearance rate very high. They have a very high clearance rate, which implies substantial community cooperation. We never established any of the conditions under which one could soften tactics.”

You also need to take into account competency. Which starts from the top on down. For far too long piss poor shoddy Police work that fociused on Quantity over Quality. Clear ups to bring the numbers up when the prints came back to offenders that were incarcerated when the crime occurred. Locking up Juvys and piss bums so the commanders had numbers for the monthly meetings while burglaries and robberies were through the roof. Piss and moan all you want but the chickens have come home to roost and now you’re feeling the fallout of inept Malfeasance that was tolerated as the norm.

10/12/2017 11:22:00 PM  

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