Money Saving Idea
Hey Rahm? You want to increase the number of officers on the street? Officers with a lot of years under their belts? And at the same time, cut some dead weight out of the upper echelons? Follow the lead of the Dallas PD:
- The Dallas Police Department is about to undergo a shake-up — including possible demotions — to put more officers on patrol.
Hundreds of officers have left the department in the last year, leaving fewer officers working the streets. In that time, officers have been slower to respond to emergency calls.
Chief U. Renee Hall said Monday she plans to significantly reduce the number of assistant chiefs and deputy chiefs who oversee the department. She is also considering reducing the number of detectives in investigative units and officers serving on task forces.
Her plan may mean that some officers serving as assistant chief could be demoted to lieutenant and that some detectives could be put in patrol, which Hall called the "backbone" of the department.
"We've lost nearly 500 officers, so we need to reflect that at the top," she said. "I'm assessing the Police Department as a whole."
Chicago has lost somewhere in the neighborhood of 2,000 officers, yet the brass has increased with about 54 commanders currently on the payroll along with 16 Deputy Chiefs. If you'll recall, before Rahm arrived on scene, the CPD got by with 6 Deputy Chiefs and something like 35 Commanders.
This plan would work two different ways:
This plan would work two different ways:
- cutting needless, redundant, political spots saves hundreds of thousands of dollars instantly, and
- most of these useless gold stars would retire rather than face the streets, office work, or people they stepped over on the way up.
Feel free to ask us for more ideas. We've been posting them for a dozen years now.
Labels: department issues, out-of-state
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
62 Comments:
16 deputy chiefs? Unbelievable. 15 years ago everyone knew the big bosses. Now, hell, I don’t even know who the chief of patrol is. There’s so many people up top and they’re constantly moving that you just can’t keep track. There are needs for sgt’s, Lt’s, capt’s and district commanders. Then of course you need a few deputies, but that’s it. Come on already.
the CPD got by with 6 Deputy Chiefs and something like 35 Commanders.
That was before cutting down to 3 areas & 22 districts.
Like when they made Leo a deputy of the 7th district. Wtf was that? Why was that necessary.
Imagine the winner you will get as a partner if the CPD does this?
"The uniform must have shrunk in the twenty years it sat in the closet."
"I have this gastrointestinal issue, just leave the windows down."
"Can you drive? I have a fear of trucks and get nauseous if you take too many turns."
Sounds just like what happened with Dart and his gigantic management team. Money to be saved all around. For a city and county that is crying poor and run by these financial wizards you would think they could find these savings. Obviously they dont want the light of day to,shine on their political structure. Filthy crooked people running the show here.
Telling the brass to put down the shields and get in the fields??
Whoaa
The last place they want to go is back on the street, answering calls.
They did that a long time ago and remember their time in the Patrol Division as the longest, most terror filled 3 months of their career.
Most of these merits and clouters got so lazy
after their promotions, they stopped washing
their ass everyday, just changing underwear
and using aerosol deodorant. That's because
their work was so taxing, they watched the
late show every night.
It's not that they are better or smarter than you,
they had less moral values so kissing up was
part of their career.
Put these frogs on a beat or in a squad then
watch them jump.
cut the merit leaders in CPD?
yeah, like the dancer would EVER give up his base...
Chicago could do without many white shirts. These brain washed cowards cant make decisions and shit themselves if you challenge their bullshit.some even get to make capt. Salary and wear stupid flannel shirts and hang out at the front desk. Retire already drunk losers.you dont do anything positive for the blue shirts or community anyway.
Hmmm, get rid of "merit positions" in the upper ranks?
Dream on, this is Chicago.
I don't know who wins the race of more gold stars with asses that shine seats behind desks Monday-Friday 8a-4p; CPD or ISP.
Say an issue with a road troop develops, good or bad. The troop's shift commander will notify the patrol commander, who notifies the district commander, who notifies the region commander, who notifies the area commander, then to the first deputy director and then the director.
And if this incident requires investigations, crime scene, or the ever present rat squad, they all have their own chain of command. (Kingdom would be a better word)
And people wonder how they can drive hundreds of miles through Illinois and not see a State squad.
Some years back, after a blizzard or two, ISP decided to look into purchasing SUVs. So they bought 2-wheel drives to be sent into the field, and four-wheel drives for command to be sent to the nearest desk, where they could listen to troops handling crashes, calling for tows, while sipping their coffee.
Don't even get me started on the Purple motor oil they bought under Blago's regime.
Retired ISP
ALL EXEMPT RANKS are Political! Some may argue that allowing a Merit Promotion System that has no Explanation or Definition corrupts ALL Promotions in the Chicago Police Department. So why is the pension fund paying these Political Appointees/Hacks inflated pensions? All pensions should be paid at final rank attained in competitive exams. Now consider this in light of what I said earlier; that we have reached a point where one can honestly say that ALL promotions have been corrupted! Initially this article raises the cost to the City, but the cost to Everyone who contributes to the pension fund, far exceeds the salaries paid by the City. Exempt members regularly retire with pensions exceeding $125,000, and these are people barely in their 60's. Then through ethnic or political connections, they take on other government jobs, paying additional six-figure salaries. Some of these Hacks earn more in retirement than they did when they were exempt! And the Exempt Pensions usually exceeds the amount of time they were actually Exempt on the job! We have created a monster that is eating the pension up, and it has impacted morale and the effectiveness of the entire Chicago Police Department. Incompetent leadership can be very expensive. Baby "G"
The Bureau of Organjzed Crime is the biggest offender: the Commanders (2 or 3 of them) answer to one Deputy Chief, who then answers to one Chief. Why do you need a Chief who has only one person under him??
The department can start by getting rid of Inspectors!
When the right thing ever happened in this department?
Get rid ridiculous like Robin Robinson and the like
I like it. But I've been around long enough to know that taking "bosses" out of their ivory tower, and putting them back on the streets is usually bad for the patrol guys.
I'll just leave it at that.
Let's see, before Rahm. 5areas in patrol = 5 deputy chiefs. Plus central control group = 6. Then 5 area deputy chiefs in detective division = 5 so right there is 11. Then a deputy chief of patrol in the Chiefs office plus Detective division plus in Administration = 14.
So, i think the before number is off.......
Chicago has lost somewhere in the neighborhood of 2,000 officers, yet the brass has increased with about 54 commanders currently on the payroll along with 16 Deputy Chiefs. If you'll recall, before Rahm arrived on scene, the CPD got by with 6 Deputy Chiefs and something like 35 Commanders.
Never going to happen, there's waay too much money or "campaign contributions" to kick up
the political food chain in the twerp murder mayor's savage city...
Well if we cut all these exempt spots a bit and let Lts. OR CAPTS. Be commanding officers then they would save money. Next take away the cars from people who don't respond after hours or start work from hone. Sure narcotics get to keep some money from seizures but how about sharing some of that whit units like SWAT who use their own cars and gas or why don't they get a car allowance like a lot of city foreman get.
They should all be charged with theft too! The only thing they are doing is destroying the pension by stealing money. It is the biggest group of idiots in the nation!!!!!!!!!!
Free the “entitled” house mice.
Never see that here.
Where would my pretty neighborhood's handsome commander go? I would miss him so much, as would our alderman.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
rockin robin robinson
what a waste............
Years ago, while having a pop with a retired boss, he told me that no one could be promoted to exempt rank unless it was approved ( or "suggested" ) by the mayor.
Why do all of the merit promotions come from the bottom of the list and not the top of the list?
Think about it!
Steve Georgass- deputy chief of nobody, working for mcpier until he's old enough to steal a CPD pension
Kevin Duffin - commander of nobody
Tina Skahill - deputy director of a unit where there is no director, and collecting a chiefs pension on top of that
Leo panepinto - commander of a unit with less than 30 people assigned, answers to deputy chief caluris, who is in charge of only one unit,(see above)
Anybody see the problems? Anyone care to add to this?
Did you see that the "broke" city went ahead and took the land deal that was 10 million under the highest bid?
The aldercreature that objected was bought off by giving his ward additional park space.
You can make up the difference on your next tax bill
Anonymous Anonymous said...
the CPD got by with 6 Deputy Chiefs and something like 35 Commanders.
That was before cutting down to 3 areas & 22 districts.
10/12/2017 12:22:00 AM
There were always more than 6 deputy chiefs. In the early 2000's (pre-Rahm) there were 7 in patrol division alone ... one for each Area and the central control group and an administrative deputy in patrol HQ. Then you had deputy chiefs in the detective division and organized crime. When Weis was around you actually had two chiefs of patrol reporting to a deputy superintendent of patrol. There were also a lot more than 35 commanders. When McCarthy came in he shuffled the deck and increased the exempt staff but I don't recall him dumping anyone. He created the "executive officer" position as in NYC and put commanders & captains in those spots. If you think the current administration is going to "thin the herd" it ain't going to happen.
Blogger Baby"G" said...
ALL EXEMPT RANKS are Political! Some may argue that allowing a Merit Promotion System that has no Explanation or Definition corrupts ALL Promotions in the Chicago Police Department. So why is the pension fund paying these Political Appointees/Hacks inflated pensions? All pensions should be paid at final rank attained in competitive exams. Now consider this in light of what I said earlier; that we have reached a point where one can honestly say that ALL promotions have been corrupted! Initially this article raises the cost to the City, but the cost to Everyone who contributes to the pension fund, far exceeds the salaries paid by the City. Exempt members regularly retire with pensions exceeding $125,000, and these are people barely in their 60's. Then through ethnic or political connections, they take on other government jobs, paying additional six-figure salaries. Some of these Hacks earn more in retirement than they did when they were exempt! And the Exempt Pensions usually exceeds the amount of time they were actually Exempt on the job! We have created a monster that is eating the pension up, and it has impacted morale and the effectiveness of the entire Chicago Police Department. Incompetent leadership can be very expensive. Baby "G"
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Baby G knocks it out of the park!
Something to consider- imagine this math equation: you have two CPD lieutenants that have the same amount of civil service time (same appointment date) and one of them becomes a commander and then, both retire on the same day. Did you know YOUR PENSION pays the commander an additional $27,000 a year for the rest of his life! And then, when he dies (because we always die before the wife) the commander’s widow will receive 50% of the pension PLUS 50% of that $27k bump. So the cancer never dies.
In my humble opinion the way the mayor is going to relieve himself of a pension obligation is to bankrupt the fund.
Gold braid pensions need to go!
How about this for savings. Hire retirees for all front office positions and secretarial jobs at a decent wage and put all the house mouses on the street. Let the retirees buy a decent insurance and let the games begin. I say we have elimination battles on who gets dumped onto the street first.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Like when they made Leo a deputy of the 7th district. Wtf was that? Why was that necessary.
10/12/2017 12:26:00 AM
And now Leo pulling a huge 6 figure pension is running ISP and will be pulling another 6 figure pension,along with his wife's 6 figure pension how much is enough? You mean they could not promote ISP boss from within? is Leo that much smarter? I know he has that he has finally completed the medal kit inspired by Frazier:
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10/12/2017 05:00:00 AM
True I traveled down to Springfield down I-55 saw 1 state squad the complete trip! But then again had to pull over on the expressway while multiple state squads were rapidly escorting the bus loads of thugs who are anti-police,anti-military to the football game as if they were royalty! Will any news stations expose who gets paid off for this? This is totally unjust,unlawful use of taxpayers paid state vehicles and wasting Troopers time! Leo say something!! Dont be scared!
LOOK AT THE CHARTS ON THIS STORY:
https://www.wbez.org/shows/wbez-news/chicago-adds-376-cops-594-to-go/86d3291a-d3c1-4b70-b6c9-5023f987b8ef
In a heavily promoted speech on Sept. 22, 2016, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel promised to add 500 rank-and-file police officers by the end of 2018 to help tamp down the city’s worst gun violence in two decades.
This year’s homicide numbers are almost as high as last year’s, but the city has added only a few dozen of those promised cops and instead focused on higher ranks, according to a WBEZ analysis of City Hall data.
A police spokesman says it is all part of a plan that will fulfill the mayor’s promises on time.
Just put the popcorn in the microwave and cracked a cold one. Going to sit back and enjoy this show. Can you imagine these gold stared pension suckers having to live off the salary and pension figures of their last rank? Hurry up all you house cats, better start grabbing those city jobs (aviation, streets, and Merchandise Mart) before all your fellow gold ass buddies get them. Sink or swim.
Would NEVER happen here. Supervisors are GODS! Now bow down to me, peon!!
yes and years ago deputy chief had 1 P.O. doing all his work
merit fools have a staff of 6
look at the last captain/inspector gadget LIEbiotch triple merit
couldn't handle a crash report , log on vehicle pdt or operate the radio
now in charge of a unit
demote that clout baby back to sergeant
captain is a useless political rank for the merit lt that could not handle a watch
What does a chief of staff do?
(9) slots for Area South RBT Sgt's. on two watches. Down to 1 on 2nd watch and 3 on 3rd. Not too worried about investigations it seems.
Great idea. This goof mayor will never follow suit. Way too many stupid ass bosses on this job while patrol continues to be drained
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Like when they made Leo a deputy of the 7th district. Wtf was that? Why was that necessary.
That was a gimme
No buddy below leo respected him and blew him off so mcstreetlights gave him a rank of deputy chief so no one could disrespect him below his rank.
Cut middle management by 25%. All corporations have done that with no noticeable impact in service levels. Only government continues to that category, that's because it's not their money being spent, its yours. Merit promotions to take care od their friends an of course the clouted. Stop all merit promotions, all must pass a fair test to be promoted. Freeze the number of managers after the 25% cut. promote only after an opening caused by retirement or firings. Best guess this would have a 40million impact on budget. Put 50% of the homicide deceives on street. Their current closure rate should be embarrassing to all in CPD. Maybe they can do some good back on the street.
OT
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10/12/2017 05:00:00 AM
True I traveled down to Springfield down I-55 saw 1 state squad the complete trip! But then again had to pull over on the expressway while multiple state squads were rapidly escorting the bus loads of thugs who are anti-police,anti-military to the football game as if they were royalty! Will any news stations expose who gets paid off for this? This is totally unjust,unlawful use of taxpayers paid state vehicles and wasting Troopers time! Leo say something!! Dont be scared!
I checked with some troops in the Chicago area about this. ISP bills the teams just over $100 per trooper for the escorts. And the troops get time and a half to work it. So while it's not totally on the taxpayer, I agree with your other sentiments.
Leo was a tool
Steve Georgass- deputy chief of nobody, working for mcpier until he's old enough to steal a CPD pension
Kevin Duffin - commander of nobody
Tina Skahill - deputy director of a unit where there is no director, and collecting a chiefs pension on top of that
Leo panepinto - commander of a unit with less than 30 people assigned, answers to deputy chief caluris, who is in charge of only one unit,(see above)
Anybody see the problems? Anyone care to add to this?
Yes, Panepinto is not even qualified to be a sergeant
Eliminate every aspect of CAPS and the CPD can fully staff to reopen Districts 013, 023 and 021.
Eliminate News Affairs, HR and R & D and fully staff another Watch for 005,006 and 007.
Keep overpaid, ineffective defect Special Ed Jughead on as Stupidintended and we all can sit back and R-E-L-A-X.
Called the pension board numerous times Kenny hausers stock answer "looking into it, get back to you" when asked about ending the gold braid pension bullshit,and also don't forget the ballerina with the wedding dresses detail all get commander and sergeants pension while being a 9161 patrolman rank! If rahm wants to reward his coat holding valets that's ok by salary now when your talking pension your taking "our money" that is the objection!!
The city of chi will implement a plethora of bullshit taxes on the public, before the city eats it golden clout babies or take the golden spoon out of their mouth
One reason that won’t happen here: politics.
Caluris would absolutely DIE if he were busted back down to a more fitting position, 1st watch patrol lieutenant.
My God, that man has looked like he is 70 for the past 15 years.
9) slots for Area South RBT Sgt's. on two watches. Down to 1 on 2nd watch and 3 on 3rd. Not too worried about investigations it seems.
With the well known, dismal stats for clearances, it would appear that many investigators don't seem to worried about their jobs either. Maybe some should be demoted and sent back to patrol, like the Dallas PD is proposing? Hmmmm.
The politicians don't want to save money. They are all talk.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
rockin robin robinson
what a waste............
10/12/2017 08:32:00 AM
You mean Racist Robin Robinson!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Called the pension board numerous times Kenny hausers stock answer "looking into it, get back to you" when asked about ending the gold braid pension bullshit,and also don't forget the ballerina with the wedding dresses detail all get commander and sergeants pension while being a 9161 patrolman rank! If rahm wants to reward his coat holding valets that's ok by salary now when your talking pension your taking "our money" that is the objection!!
10/12/2017 06:15:00 PM
So true why does rahms valets get that pension bump? Why also is rahm "I'm the green environmental" mayor have a fleet of big tahoes and suburbans to haul his and his families asses around? Why not use electric cars? how about his valets get issued rickshaw type bicycles so they can haul the dictator around,and that way they could shred that excessive fat to keep in shape! His detail also gets unlimited overtime did "fergie" look into this? Of course not he is scared! Wonder why his commander Thompson left so quickly after the court case and his controversial comments? Hmm very interesting!
CPD is Top Heavy with triple merit , most would be working a Beat car if not for political clout , complaining about wearing a body camera .
Most have patrolman doing their reports , writing speeches and it shows they aren't smart enough to surround themselves with some smart police officers .
cut all Captains , XO's , deputy chiefs
hire more sergeants for the districts , not specialized units and headquarters
Anonymous said...
CPD is Top Heavy with triple merit , most would be working a Beat car if not for political clout , complaining about wearing a body camera .
Most have patrolman doing their reports , writing speeches and it shows they aren't smart enough to surround themselves with some smart police officers .
10/13/2017 03:11:00 PM
Haven't you heard?
Policemen who are actually smart are considered
to be a threat.
So no worries about the triple merit dunces like
Well-Fed Ed and his exempt cabal actually having
smart Coppers in their periphery...
Heh...
Those theoretical smart Coppers might give them up
to the Feds and Rahm will end up having ALL of his
insulation burned off during his unplanned descent
as a result.
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Take a good look a Dallas City management and County govt' and shuffle on down there and get you some of that, unh huh. Maybe you'll see why 500 quit.
Get rid of the dead weight still sitting on their asses in the front office. We gained civilians on the desk but the Lt still has more PO s on the desk. One officer sits in the radio room a whole tour. And this is only one district.
Get rid of officers hiding as secretaries in units. Clean out Holman St. and on and on it goes
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