More Wasted Overtime
Hey Andy Shaw, how about this OT? (from our e-mail):
- Another Thursday come and gone and CompStat was a rousing success.
In attendance were all sorts of Chiefs, Deputy Chiefs, and Commanders.
Also just about every XO in the city, who either had hours adjusted or received overtime, not to mention Lietenants working out of grade a Commanding Officers.
Countless Lieutenants, including one from every watch for the District/Area up for review. That's a whole bunch of overtime since each got around 4 hours.
And then there's the "statistic people" in every front office racking up Overtime to get binders full of info for the meetings and produce a lot of paperwork, all of which will be filed, stored or shredded, never to be seen again - it takes a lot of overtime to compile all those binders.
Has anyone ever worked out how much a CompStat meeting costs? We're sure it's significant.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:37 AM
81 Comments:
If it wasn't documented, it never happened.
Remember, we got review boards to present these
stats to as proof of our protection and service to the
community.
LAPD, NYPD, CPD, Las Vegas PD, all the big players
have stats.
(Dummies, they turn the numbers around at evaluation
time and use them against you)
On MON the Commander and his staff collect data, On TUES they spend all day analyzing On WEDS the Commander and his team Rehearse for the Meeting and on THURS they attend the meeting. The ENTIRE week is WASTED on this dog and pony show from New York. The first thing a good boss learns is to NEVER embarrass a subordinate in public . But it happens EVERY THURSDAY.
So much jerkin around while so many die on the mean streets of Chicago. Maybe all the resources used up on compstat will yield an answer...... someday
The waste on paper has been a laughing joke for many years. Copies upon copies all for nothing. The waste on OT for stat keepers is nuts too cause it all gets erased after the big OT meeting. Until city hall says stop it! It will never end. All this paper and OT for stats is just overlap because it's all entered electronically anyway. All this money is probably just patronage money.
But... But.... But just think of how many 9.5 digit voters were there...
Considering that the chosen get promoted despite their CompStat failures, the OT is completely unnecessary and wasteful. Just give Wheezy, West and Escramerit their next promotion and cut out the charade.
Im pretty sure all these lts, cpts and exempts would go to the compstat meeting for free of told you'd lose your "spot".
Can someone please tell me why Hillary Clinton is still campaigning? The Election is over, go away!
Come on how dare you pick on the merit staff. The Chicago Way says they are entitled to all they can get, it's their turn at the trough. It's not the chiefs that are the problem it's the Indians. So STFU about their entitlement.
OT: Heard Homan Square is up for grabs. Two Sgts have been escorted out of the building in the last week.
From another thread:
Anonymous Anonymous said...
10/12/2017 05:00:00 AM
True I traveled down to Springfield down I-55 saw 1 state squad the complete trip! But then again had to pull over on the expressway while multiple state squads were rapidly escorting the bus loads of thugs who are anti-police,anti-military to the football game as if they were royalty! Will any news stations expose who gets paid off for this? This is totally unjust,unlawful use of taxpayers paid state vehicles and wasting Troopers time! Leo say something!! Dont be scared!
I checked with some troops in the Chicago area about this. ISP bills the teams just over $100 per trooper for the escorts. And the troops get time and a half to work it. So while it's not totally on the taxpayer, I agree with your other sentiments.
10/12/2017 03:29:00 PM
The state of Illinois is Close to bankruptcy, I would strongly bet Business people, doctors and others would gladly pay this amount to get somewhere as expeditiously as possible! They could also use the Chicago Police Department as Uber drivers, we could use the Jimmy John's model " do you want to get there fast, do you want to get there very fast how fast extremely fast you will be treated like a king or queen just like royalty just like an NFL player!" Just imagine how many people would gladly pay that small amount of money to get somewhere quickly even though it's a little lights and sirens and escorts this could be great what do you think about a governor? Mayor, crook county president? County sheriff? Wait a minute with all the suburban police agencies they could also get it on the money the entire state of Illinois could be doing this why not? If it's good enough for the anti-police anti-American anti-military national football league it's good enough for everyone correct?
The Democrats talk about equality for all your is a way to show that you're for everyone correct Democrats?
A great portion of that supervisory meritorious overtime cash gets kicked up through their sponsors and ultimately finds its way in the twerp murder mayor's campaign funds, the only real values that count in this savage city...
overtime for meetings????
looking from the outside, that just sounds absurd.
but hey, its chicago.........
For the district up for review, you're talking 4 lieutenants - one from every watch and the tact lieutenant. Just for the compstat meeting day itself OT comes out to at least 20 hours, and that's if the lieutenants are only taking 4 hours.
Get thee behind me, Andy Shaw
Happy Triskaidekaphobia Day.
Note to Big Boss If there is a problem with a particular unit or district, address it at that level and get rid of this NY Bullshit. A waste of time, money, and valuable manpower
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can someone please tell me why Hillary Clinton is still campaigning? The Election is over, go away!
10/13/2017 03:30:00 AM
Because she is delusional and out of touch with reality. She refuses to understand that she lost. In her mind she was elected before the election. Total narcissistic psychopath.
Uh, you do know that Commanding Officer is a title to make you feel important and dump more responsibility on you, but it's not a pay grade right?
Our previous D.I.O./COMPSTAT guy used to “earn” more OT than officers working as many VRI’s as they can.
His OT checks were absolutely ridiculous.
He’s since moved on to C.P.I.C. where I’m sure he has a similar scam going.
Two sergeants got escorted out of Homan Square last week?
Were they lost and couldn't find their way out?
Directionally Challenged?
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: Heard Homan Square is up for grabs. Two Sgts have been escorted out of the building in the last week.
10/13/2017 06:28:00 AM
That's because the cItywide OT scandal is starting to boil. Narcotics and Gangs outta Homan are gonna get dinged hard. But not as hard as a few dozen detectives and a few dozen more coppers that got waaayyyyyy to greedy. 26/Cal has been monitored for the last 2+ years. That little camera in the ceiling in the hallway outside the 7th floor sign in room? That's just one of several cameras that will be providing footage at your administrative proceedings for separation and likely also at your criminal proceedings. They are out for blood and you've been warned for quite some time. I know of a handful of detectives that have put their papers in so they can bail with a pension before the hammer drops. They better hope Official Misconduct isn't one of their charges. Even sheriffs, ASAs and other county employees seem to know it's coming as I've had conversations with several that are talking about it. Remember, Rahminator is gearing up for reelection and dirtying up the CPD will be a feather in his kippah. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED - SEE YOU AT YOUR BENEFIT PARTY....... NOT.
Speaking of OT. Has anyone heard anything about the upcoming Soros sponsored ANTIFA overthrow on Nov 4th?
And then like clockwork, any watch or tact team gets publicly spanked if their ISR, TSS or arrest numbers are down. But remember there are no quotas! These fucks still don’t get it. Most police officers are not going to put themselves in the trick bag to help you get your next promotion. Stay fetal, not out of spite or laziness but so that you can continue to remain employed and out of prison. They made the new rules but they get angry when we play by them???
OT: Heard Homan Square is up for grabs. Two Sgts have been escorted out of the building in the last week.
— — — — — — — — — —
I didn’t hear shit. Care to elaborate further?
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/10/11/conservative-bloggers-car-torched-chicago/
The truth is we need police out in the field. Yet the brass is reluctant to face this fact. Their white shirt friends get jealous because they want a piece of the pie. Greed, jealousy & envy has destroyed many a copper, person. I've seen it happen way too many times. Here is the best idea. Have the WOL, DSS, & all those house mouses hit the streets every once in awhile, so they see how micromananged this dept really is. Do we really need the gold braids? Send them all back to patrol, working the streets. Take away company cars. I know people who haven't put a mile on their personal cars in years. Start with Georgas; I remember working ot for the schools & the marathon & having to bring your own car, while this pompus asses road around, coffee in hand with a company car, doing absolutely nothing. Then there is all the people at Homan Square (which by the way rarely gets touched when they houseclean), 35th Street & the D unit (SVU, JISC, court section) who haven't been on the street in years. Paper pushers! Ridiculous! I know the line..."we worked for this." Plenty of men & women stuck in patrol, blue shirts, who haven't worked for it, ha, ha. 20 years, pushing a beat car is enough. Switch roles for awhile. We can handle it!
If number counter wasn't bad enough, there are multiple layers of people counting the same numbers.
I remember the beginning of this nonsense- the old DOC meetings. A complete joke
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: Heard Homan Square is up for grabs. Two Sgts have been escorted out of the building in the last week.
10/13/2017 06:28:00 AM
It has to do with the overtime that Ferguson started! Wait there will be more, unfortunately know of a place where cars are going in and out and time stamped automatically,sister works in the booth area and investigators were there last week picking up disks with video with video and on camera when starting and leaving! Not saying where for the jags in the media but you better fly straight coppers that are there this will be ugly!
We make a decent salary, be careful what your doing so many people hate the police including ferguson who got a huge contract boosts,and an enormous increase in his budget to get more coppers! We also have copa looking to hang some coppers in order to prove their worth that 45% increase in so called investigators! Talked to a copper today who is bragging about all the overtime he made last year, not saying its unfair but it is triple his salary! make sure your OT passes the smell teat! If it smells like s**t don't do it!
Not to belittle how much OT the busywork complies, but why isn't all of this done DIGITALLY to avoid the waste to PAPER (you know, to save the planet and stuff)?
Don't pick on the front office staff. They deserve the OT. How can they get all that work done in a 4-5 hour tour?
Do as I say, but not as I do. It's been fucked up and who get's fucked, the PO who is down hill from the rest. Last week, I made my choice, I'm getting my Masters in Business Management this year, I'm not vested, and I'm moving out of this State as soon as I can. Illinois is an extension of the Costal Elite liberal agenda, its too far gone to stay and fight. It's just a matter of time, the State cannot sustain its trajectory monetarily and will collapse. At the present pace, in the next five years it will accelerate and the police are going to be reduced in numbers for the budget. When they reduce the police and other services in this City and State, then it's going to be even more unsafe for you and your family. Believe me, I wish I could paint a better picture to invest in Illinois (Chicago), but the writing is on the wall. If any thing is for sure, Illinois going the Detroit way is a good bet. Nows the time if you can, plan to get out.
OT -
Just wondering about whether SCC is watching what Sessions did yesterday, naming Chicago cook county and illinois yesterday as basically known scofflaws that are getting a formal FINAL WARNING and a clock the lasts until the end of this month.
Non compliance by that time is going to be met with both the denial of funding - as Cub OT becomes a real possibility - and Direct Indictment and Prosecution for those refusing to comply.
Now, we all know Rahm won't be the FIRST one arrested, but how many underlings will fall the sword for him before he relents? How many ASAs and ummmm police Officers LETTING ILLEGAL ALIENS GO FREE will have to be made examples of?
Yall best get ICE on speed dial and yall best make the calls when told to let illegals go TO SAVE YOUR ASSES. Now, I don't see Trump and Sessions going after the beat cops who actually uncuff the prisoner, or the paper stamper who stamps and files the paper, but they may well reach as far down as a White Shirt....
So called "merits" with "clout" might be about to find out that clout ain't quite as full of merit as they thought.
DOJ doesn't warn and warn and warn so publicly and specifically for no reason. A Countdown Clock is ticking. Consider your choices carefully. BIG changes are coming in just a couple weeks. BIG ones. Take care that YOU are not the one to be made an example of.
Why did they cut down all the trees around Homan. Blocking cameras no doubt.
Andy Shaw is just another example of a loud mouth pussy reporter who writes stories in order to fulfill a political agenda. A reporter who works for any of the asswipe rag newspapers in this town couldn't get a legitimate news story printed if their lives depended on it. All FAKE NEWS!
G arbage
I n
G arbage
O ut
I heard a team wanted to write a j doe search warrant for firearms but was denied OT by the commander so they had to either not write it or pass it on to the next team on duty.
http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2017/10/13/louisiana-sheriffs-office-boycotting-ford-police-cars-over-nfl-anthem-protest-stance.html
another waste of CPD budget to pay stupervisors overtime
special ed where are you
BS started by tony chiesa long , long time ago to embarrass dumb commanders
Sounds like a CompStat meeting is just what I need to cope with the occasional bout of insomnia. Unfortunately, it's a long way to drive from my home in Wisconsin, and I wouldn't get OT for it.
Anyone know where I could buy an old marked squad I could park in my driveway for those times when I can't fall asleep? I've got an old uniform, and still have my old CPD blue pillow. Three deuces, over.
Boss's overtime don't count.
Is it true that they still play spin the wheel in the meetings?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Speaking of OT. Has anyone heard anything about the upcoming Soros sponsored ANTIFA overthrow on Nov 4th?
10/13/2017 09:26:00 AM
Time for CPD to take the knee against democratic oppression of the police!
There is one thing I like about Chicongo and the State of Illinois " Nothing "
I retired in 2002 and immediately left the state with no regrets. Still have family living near Wheaton, so I do have to come into the state at least once a year to visit.
The Upper US has been very good to me.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2017/10/13/louisiana-sheriffs-office-boycotting-ford-police-cars-over-nfl-anthem-protest-stance.html
10/13/2017 02:22:00 PM
Now you have start the conspiracy theory the Ford Explorers with carbon monoxide leaking inside hmmm? 🤔
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If number counter wasn't bad enough, there are multiple layers of people counting the same numbers.
10/13/2017 10:34:00 AM
It usually takes 3.
One to compile, one to hit print and the third to collate all the paper.
You never see them on a very regular basis and when you do they’re only around for a few hours....... but they miraculously “earn” crazy amounts of OT.
Hmmmmmmm.
ComPostat and it overtime is probably govmint funded through CAPS budget grants, partially what Rahm is fighting The President, Donald J. Trump to retain.
Andy 'Dick' Shaw, an inquiring question you've failed to investigate;
How much overtime (+ admission, weenies and taxed soda pop) is involved when Rahm takes and took his security detail to those ©ubs Playoff Games or global conferences?
To hell with CompStat. Our agency does it as well. Complete epic waste of time and resources. Any real cop knows whats going on in their beat/sector/division by looking at the daily reports..
2020 she’ll never leave
Sorry but incorrect. We could only go by adjusted hours or day off switch. I work midnights and my hours were adjusted starting at 0400hrs. The LT on afternoons was RDO and switched his RDO from today to tomorrow.
Why did they cut down all the trees around Homan. Blocking cameras no doubt.
10/13/2017 12:53:00 PM
Those trees have been dead for years. They weren't blocking shit. No more take home cars. Needed to make more parking.
Every clueless member suckass, soul selling for the gold braid pensions (blood money!!!)keep patting yourselfs on the backs! Ha! Go count your ISR's and count how many times the body camera was on! See u on the 15th and 1st J offs!!!
Hey Andy Shaw.....I volunteer to not work overtime for the cubs fiascos or the mistrial for the PO over charged when th murder. Go tuck yourself!
Andy Shaw has been on the payroll for some time now
(If you know what I mean)
----------------
Ever wonder why you're still hanging around Chicago?
Switzerland is so rich they actually have traces of gold
and silver in their wastewater. (It's because they have
so many gold & silver refining companies. Nevertheless,
they're just now thinking about extraction.)
"Nevertheless," that's a word Rahm likes to use a lot.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: Heard Homan Square is up for grabs. Two Sgts have been escorted out of the building in the last week.
2 Sgts make it "up for grabs"? You need to stay away from Soap Operas, just turn the tv off drama queen.
Is it true that they still play spin the wheel in the meetings?
10/13/2017 04:34:00 PM
Actually it’s spin the bottle. Everyone cheats hoping to get Nagode.
DOJ doesn't warn and warn and warn so publicly and specifically for no reason. A Countdown Clock is ticking. Consider your choices carefully. BIG changes are coming in just a couple weeks. BIG ones. Take care that YOU are not the one to be made an example of.
Hahahaha. Sessions said "The city's leaders cannot follow some laws and ignore others...." Isn't that what you do daily? Isn't that what Sessions is doing when he ignores violations to the foreign emoluments clause, failure to disclose assets and conflicts of interest, destruction of presidential records, failure to enforce the ACA individual mandate, etc. ad nauseum?
Plenty of reasons to bitch and complain. I’ve been shot at, run over, thrown to the wolves. We have a good job. This IS a noble profession. My son is proud of me and we’re all gainfully employed. Things could be way worse.
And the monthly district staff meetings all supervisors must attend to get that OT!
That's because the cItywide OT scandal is starting to boil. Narcotics and Gangs outta Homan are gonna get dinged hard. But not as hard as a few dozen detectives and a few dozen more coppers that got waaayyyyyy to greedy. 26/Cal has been monitored for the last 2+ years. That little camera in the ceiling in the hallway outside the 7th floor sign in room? That's just one of several cameras that will be providing footage at your administrative proceedings for separation and likely also at your criminal proceedings. They are out for blood and you've been warned for quite some time. I know of a handful of detectives that have put their papers in so they can bail with a pension before the hammer drops. They better hope Official Misconduct isn't one of their charges. Even sheriffs, ASAs and other county employees seem to know it's coming as I've had conversations with several that are talking about it. Remember, Rahminator is gearing up for reelection and dirtying up the CPD will be a feather in his kippah. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED - SEE YOU AT YOUR BENEFIT PARTY....... NOT.
First of all you are a complete a$$ to write such a post. You are obviously a worthless tool who I'm sure you have something to back up your claims other then water cooler gossip. So what you are saying you are walking around 26th and Cal interviewing County employees in regards to this on CPD time while you are suppose to be in your court room. Sounds like you should be putting your papers in also.
10/13/2017 10:44:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: Heard Homan Square is up for grabs. Two Sgts have been escorted out of the building in the last week.
10/13/2017 06:28:00 AM
It has to do with the overtime that Ferguson started! Wait there will be more, unfortunately know of a place where cars are going in and out and time stamped automatically,sister works in the booth area and investigators were there last week picking up disks with video with video and on camera when starting and leaving! Not saying where for the jags in the media but you better fly straight coppers that are there this will be ugly!
We make a decent salary, be careful what your doing so many people hate the police including ferguson who got a huge contract boosts,and an enormous increase in his budget to get more coppers! We also have copa looking to hang some coppers in order to prove their worth that 45% increase in so called investigators! Talked to a copper today who is bragging about all the overtime he made last year, not saying its unfair but it is triple his salary! make sure your OT passes the smell teat! If it smells like s**t don't do it!
10/13/2017 11:20:00 AM
Does that Sgt at Mass Transit have a nervous stomach about now?
How about Diamond Dave? How’s your bowels Dave?
I’m sure those big fat OT checks were nice at the time.
Is it really worth having to always look over your shoulder or worry about forensic audits?
For me it’s not.
I just choose to live mostly within my means.
OT: Heard Homan Square is up for grabs. Two Sgts have been escorted out of the building in the last week.
2 Sgts make it "up for grabs"? You need to stay away from Soap Operas, just turn the tv off drama queen.
Why were they escorted out?
There will be coppers and supervisors that will hang for some of the outrageous OT.
Remember the doctor who went to jail for billing Medicare 26 hours in one day?
If it’s virtually impossible to do what your OT check reflects then you’ve probably got a problem.
It's a coming said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: Heard Homan Square is up for grabs. Two Sgts have been escorted out of the building in the last week.
10/13/2017 06:28:00 AM
That's because the cItywide OT scandal is starting to boil. Narcotics and Gangs outta Homan are gonna get dinged hard. But not as hard as a few dozen detectives and a few dozen more coppers that got waaayyyyyy to greedy. 26/Cal has been monitored for the last 2+ years. That little camera in the ceiling in the hallway outside the 7th floor sign in room? That's just one of several cameras that will be providing footage at your administrative proceedings for separation and likely also at your criminal proceedings. They are out for blood and you've been warned for quite some time. I know of a handful of detectives that have put their papers in so they can bail with a pension before the hammer drops. They better hope Official Misconduct isn't one of their charges. Even sheriffs, ASAs and other county employees seem to know it's coming as I've had conversations with several that are talking about it. Remember, Rahminator is gearing up for reelection and dirtying up the CPD will be a feather in his kippah. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED - SEE YOU AT YOUR BENEFIT PARTY....... NOT.
10/13/2017 09:24:00 AM
Stupid is as stupid does. Like the guys who clock in at 26 for their entire team. You think nobody saw you slide 8 slips through the machine? Idiots.
OT: Heard Homan Square is up for grabs. Two Sgts have been escorted out of the building in the last week.
---------------------
It was one sergeant, who was dumped And told to leave after causing a scene. There was no escort. Ah CPD making stories larger than life, and way better than young and the restless.
OT: Heard Homan Square is up for grabs. Two Sgts have been escorted out of the building in the last week.
It was one sergeant. He was dumped. No escort and NOT because of OT.
Does Comstat invite the "heyjackass" guy?
Ask Ricco what happened at CompStat last Thursday, the big boss wasn’t happy.
Andy Shaw, executive director of "non-profit' BGA..
Read capitalfax.com:
....In 2008, Jay Stewart, then executive director was paid 57,765. In 2009, Andy Shaw took over and was paid 76,667 as executive director. In 2011, Andy Shaw was paid 174,175 to be executive director. BGA is only interested in creating headlines that will help their fundraising so they can boost their own salaries as "non/profit".....
Elite hypocrisy..... rubs elbows with the makers$ and $haker$ under the guise of government watchdog. Barf,
nonymous said...
Ask Ricco what happened at CompStat last Thursday, the big boss wasn’t happy.
Why don't you tell us what happened?
We make a decent salary, be careful what your doing so many people hate the police including ferguson who got a huge contract boosts,and an enormous increase in his budget to get more coppers! We also have copa looking to hang some coppers in order to prove their worth that 45% increase in so called investigators! Talked to a copper today who is bragging about all the overtime he made last year, not saying its unfair but it is triple his salary! make sure your OT passes the smell teat! If it smells like s**t don't do it!
No one makes 3 times his salary. Not possible. Do the math
Great story tho
All they have to do is look at the new Buckhorn crime data link to get all pertinent stats. Crime up all over town despite the massive overtime waste. Things will continue to get worse until someone at the top says it's to get tough on crime again. Stop and frisk, high bonds, tough sentencing and more Mie served when sentenced. Simple solution but no one in current administration has the balls to do it.
Time for voters in city to man up. If you continue to vote democratic you deserve what you are getting. Keep voting the same way it is all on you. You deserve higher taxes, stupid petty item taxing, sanctuary city status, crooked aldermen and a completely unsafe city. The choice is yours do something other than bitching about how bad things are.
‘Hahahaha. Sessions said "The city's leaders cannot follow some laws and ignore others...." Isn't that what you do daily? Isn't that what Sessions is doing when he ignores violations to the foreign emoluments clause, failure to disclose assets and conflicts of interest, destruction of presidential records, failure to enforce the ACA individual mandate, etc. ad nauseam”
Meanwhile Flop and the gathering faithful flock to him like he’s their new found Messiah. You can’t make this stuff up.
why be afraid of these meetings? if you know what the fuck is going on in your district stand up like a man and say it.the more fucked up your district is, the better chance you have of being promoted to a deputy (see: leo, ruiz,carter, and every other fucked up gold star)
the truth be damned
Overheard a "penny" at the illinois security contractor test last month. In her own words she's overworked at area north and netted 1500 hrs of o.t. Just this summer. An XO putting in 1000 hrs of actual time.If that's true I applaud a boss in the trenches leading by example.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Overheard a "penny" at the illinois security contractor test last month. In her own words she's overworked at area north and netted 1500 hrs of o.t. Just this summer. An XO putting in 1000 hrs of actual time.If that's true I applaud a boss in the trenches leading by example.
Made 1500 hrs of OT during the summer?
Front office people still coming in on holidays for the time and a half. Aren’t they DOH?
We would have published your detective screed, but....
Read Rule #2 on the right hand side of the main page.
We don't respond well to Asshats.
Post a Comment
<< Home