Sunday, January 14, 2018

Another Unworkable "Solution"

  • In a bid to crack down on car crashes caused by people texting while driving, Chicago aldermen on Thursday discussed the concept of arming police with devices to tell how recently drivers had used their cellphones.

    So-called “textalyzers” could allow officers to scan phones and tell whether they were in use at the time of an accident, Ald. Edward Burke said.

    “In many ways it’s the digital equivalent of a Breathalyzer,” he said. While a handful of government agencies around the country are looking at incorporating textalyzer technology in police investigations, none has done so yet, he said.

    The 14th Ward alderman, however, did not propose that the Chicago Police Department start using the devices, nor was a vote taken. Burke, the longest-tenured and most powerful alderman, sometimes holds hearings merely to discuss headline-grabbing ideas.
Maybe this goof should keep his bullshit to himself for a year or two and see if actual problems get solved.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

try reading the fourth amendment? Drop a warrant on my service provider and see my activity at the time the legal way

1/14/2018 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe this goof should retire and move somewhere far away. Think of the cost savings.

1/14/2018 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My cellphone is my GPS navigation system with on going mapping and hazard warnings.

Tell someone not to use that, it beat holding a Rand McNally paper road map. I remember when those were free at gas stations. Yes, I am that old.

1/14/2018 01:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then we will be accused of criminal misconduct like we are now with “stingrays” and “trigger fish”.

1/14/2018 02:16:00 AM  
Blogger I Fart In Your General Direction said...

Speaking of car crashes…

Perusing the goings-on in the various districts tonight and discovered the Hair Gels in 011 are still having a difficult time understanding the reality of frivolous vehicle pursuits.

Vehicle leaves the vicinity of loud reports near Washington and Keeler. Refuses to pull over. That is until they hit a light pole at Grand and Sacramento at about 60 mph. 3 assholes injured, 2 likely critical.

No one shot.
No gun recovered.
3 assholes that'll accrue 100s of 1000s in medical treatment courtesy of taxpayers.
Easily a dozen-plus coppers risking their safety responding to assist.
Initiating coppers vilified and likely put through the administrative wringer.
Lawsuits guaranteed to be filed, punative damages always a reality.

All for...?

1/14/2018 03:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If wonder if Burke ever bought that cowboy hat he was looking at during the city council hearing, where they he voted to raise our property taxes.

Someone should invent a Alderlyzer, an instrument used to detect corruption in the city council.

1/14/2018 05:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe a search warrant is needed to search cell phones per the United States Supreme Court, if I’m not mistaken!

Chicago will again be making payouts for violating the U.S. Constitution!

A better idea would be to get rid of 40 Alderman and their useless staff, as everything is done by callig 311 these days, in now the 3rd largest city and soon to be passed by Houston city to drop to number 4!

1/14/2018 05:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let them eat cake!!!!!

1/14/2018 05:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of car crashes…

Perusing the goings-on in the various districts tonight and discovered the Hair Gels in 011 are still having a difficult time understanding the reality of frivolous vehicle pursuits.

Vehicle leaves the vicinity of loud reports near Washington and Keeler. Refuses to pull over. That is until they hit a light pole at Grand and Sacramento at about 60 mph. 3 assholes injured, 2 likely critical.

No one shot.
No gun recovered.
3 assholes that'll accrue 100s of 1000s in medical treatment courtesy of taxpayers.
Easily a dozen-plus coppers risking their safety responding to assist.
Initiating coppers vilified and likely put through the administrative wringer.
Lawsuits guaranteed to be filed, punative damages always a reality.

All for...?

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There's never any reasoning on their behalf. They somehow feel obligated to chase when we're reminded that the only 'reward' involved in such stupidity is avoiding a crash, catching all offenders, and MAYBE having a charge stick to their alleged crime. The disadvantages far outweigh this.

Last week the local Area Central Saturation morons chased a vehicle under similar circumstances from 008 to damn near La Grange before the offender's wild actions (driving onto incoming traffic) forced their hand. The pursuing units were notvresponding to dispatch about their speed, and they were even fumbling to clarify that they didn't onview shots fired OR were shot it. Instead, they heard shots from aroundcthe corner and witnessed a car speeding away. LOL. We all had a good laugh listening to their stupidity. Luckily no one was hurt.

1/14/2018 06:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The 14th Ward alderman, however, did not propose that the Chicago Police Department start using the devices, nor was a vote taken. Burke, the longest-tenured and most powerful alderman, sometimes holds hearings merely to discuss headline-grabbing ideas.

They forgot to mention that he's the longest-tenured mobbed up politician, next to daley, never to be charged by the feds...

1/14/2018 06:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whats The Kickback Burke is Going to get on this from this Company , More things for the PD to do but they never say anything about giving you a raise since there giving you Multiple MORE things to do , , ASSHOLE Burke is a piece of shit just like Rahm STILL making Money off there position in Office , HOW MUCH DO WE GET EDDIE BURKE Ah on this New Deal of Yours , The NEW FAST EDDIE

1/14/2018 06:21:00 AM  
Anonymous long gone and laughing my ass off said...

i do mot understand how this asshole holds the crown of most powerful alderman.

if ward boundaries were still the same from 30 years age. this sad excuse of 'leadership' would be long gone.

1/14/2018 06:31:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

I hope they will be able to read my texts. They will make you hair curl. I'm all about sharing.

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

1/14/2018 06:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eddie B, where's those AR's you promised.

1/14/2018 07:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This knucklehead should retire and release all his police servants back to the districts.

1/14/2018 07:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Show the search warrant muthafucka!

How about a BRIBEALIZER for the aldermen?

1/14/2018 07:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not a police officer, l am an information security engineer. Anyone who tells you that such a device can be made that 1) obtains privileged access to a smartphone to determine if texting has occurred during a specific period of time and 2) can be made in such a way that does not obtain access to absolutely everything on that smartphone — that person is lying. The way smartphones work, that simply isn’t possible. Only a politician would think it could be.

1/14/2018 07:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm currently designing an app to defeat the scanners, 2.99....available for Android and IOS.

1/14/2018 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, the congress and I.C.E. want to start jailing "sanctuary cities" officials soon.
A gross idiocy law would serve us well also. then they can take the entire city council,Dart,county board, etc. With Dart gone, maybe Arpaio from AZ. could consult on the building of a nice inexpensive tent facility to keep all our "leadership" on ice so to speak, until the trial so as to not need any electronic monitoring.

1/14/2018 08:24:00 AM  
Blogger Cuthbert J. Twillie said...

Thank God Fast Eddie never thought of passing a Law Banning the playing of Air Guitar while driving.
I would have been screwed big time when REO Speeedwagon's 'Roll With The Changes' came on The Loop, WLUP-FM. (LOL)

(yes, I invented Air Guitar. I couldn't fit my Fender Strat in the Driver's Seat with me so I had to improvise)

1/14/2018 08:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Using this will result in an easy lawsuit for someone. There is a reason you're told not to operate the phones of people in custody without a warrant.

1/14/2018 08:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought "Death Bed ED", was.......well.....Dead.

1/14/2018 08:54:00 AM  
Blogger Alan Longnecker said...

I haven't seen a phone where the msg history wasn't time-tagged on the phone.

1/14/2018 09:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CORRECTION

0bamacare will pay for the medical treatment.

/sarcasm off

1/14/2018 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many matchsticks are you willing to wager that some soon to be politically connected firm will get the contract if Chicago buys this item. Some people will get rich off of it, the things will be cheaply made, at least half will be broken,BUT pockets will be lined!

1/14/2018 09:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A "good" idea is allowing, no, requiring Police to confiscate the "element of the crime" until their first court date.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know how much bitching there would be, but do it a few times, make a big deal about it on TV and newspapers, radio, whatever then passengers would be doing all the talking, texting, twittering, whatever.
It would be like executing murderers, very damn few repeat offenders!

J.J.

1/14/2018 09:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Burke is happy now - his boy Pigott finally got promoted to commander.

1/14/2018 09:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Burke should quit wearing those Frank Nitti pin stripped Zoot suits. ♠️

1/14/2018 10:15:00 AM  
Blogger Tired Libertarian said...

At a time when the city is drowning in debt, Red Ed loves to think of more ways to waste money. Get your heads out of your ass, 14th ward. Elect anyone else!

1/14/2018 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I didn’t realize that we were legally allowed to go through citizens’ cell phones during air traffic stop. Where have I’ve been?

1/14/2018 10:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cheez, couldn't the city council come up with a mo' better city ordinance than (pfffft!) 'texting while driving?'

Why not make eating foie gras while driving illegal, or at least foi gras-free zones in Chicago?
After all, foi gras is made by inhumanely force-feeding a duck with a tube down its throat to enlarge its liver at the Sonoma Foie Gras farm in Farmington, Calif.

Sorta like the crap they want to shove down our throats coming out of the funny farm at 121 N. LaSalle St., Chicago, IL.

1/14/2018 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Burke’s mind is geared towards making money, not taxpayer safety.
All talk about paying attention, Burke uses his iPad to shop online during Council meetings.
It’s likely he has friends who developed some (unproven) technology and wants the City to buy the first 10,000.
Just like the goof who tried to sell a south side AlderStooge a bullet serial numbering ID system a year ago.
How did that go? The city was ready to buy into that.

Feral Sanctuary Chicago is continually driving without insurance and/or licenses, running red lights, drunk and drugged and hardly ever stop for police, all being released back on the streets.
There should penalties for enforced laws broken, not financial or cultural excuses.

How many feral urchins that are allowed to go about carjacking everyday are actually penalized for traffic violations, does that have any impact on safety? The feral youth don’t care about a drivers license or any future impact and politicians have no complaint.

Any additional cellphone ordinance such as Burke’s grand idea is targeting only those willing to stop and get a ticket.
It’s an insurance matter after the crash and no ordinance that’s already on the books will prevent the feral lawless from causing accidents.

You’ll never make a good courteous driver out of anyone in the ghetto.
Don’t stop anyone until politicians accept the responsibility.

1/14/2018 10:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this shows perfectly why the number of aldermen need to be cut in half. Maybe somebody should mail mr. Burke a copy of the United States Constitution the the Illinois constitution. Or maybe his wife could roll over in bed and talk to him about the Constitution and people's constitutional rights.

1/14/2018 11:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Run the White Flag up boys

1/14/2018 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pass a law ( that states the Officers are not responsible for the Offenders who have made a conscious decision to run from the police ) as long as the Police vehicle doesn't crash into anyone we cannot be held responsible for the Offenders actions. I know I'm dreaming to many lawyers Maybe the real solution is technology. Maybe someone can develop a technology that when aimed at a vehicle it disables the engine. I know the vehicles power steering and power brakes revert to manual so what, better than the alternative of crashes and lawsuits ( and now with COPA termination and criminal charges) Technology is the only way to stop fleeing offenders

1/14/2018 11:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Term limits.

1/14/2018 12:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This asshole has never had a good idea since first being alderman. He and his wife should be in federal jail for their involvement in Greylord. The only two people accused by Cooley for taking bribes and not indicted. Fucking rat bastard.

1/14/2018 01:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not only that, Mr. Goldchains is toying with the idea of establishing a text offender registry.

1/14/2018 01:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These pompous assholes actually think they are doing something. This shithole is beyond a laughing stock.

1/14/2018 01:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of car crashes…

Perusing the goings-on in the various districts tonight and discovered the Hair Gels in 011 are still having a difficult time understanding the reality of frivolous vehicle pursuits.

Vehicle leaves the vicinity of loud reports near Washington and Keeler. Refuses to pull over. That is until they hit a light pole at Grand and Sacramento at about 60 mph. 3 assholes injured, 2 likely critical.

No one shot.
No gun recovered.
3 assholes that'll accrue 100s of 1000s in medical treatment courtesy of taxpayers.
Easily a dozen-plus coppers risking their safety responding to assist.
Initiating coppers vilified and likely put through the administrative wringer.
Lawsuits guaranteed to be filed, punative damages always a reality.

All for...?

------

But hey you forgot. They're the "real" police.

1/14/2018 02:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Democrats are always looking for new ways to take your money.

How bout instead of taking your money, Democrats stress how important it is for citizens to invest their money? Hell, I would even support some kind of ppfinancing classes at the CPS or City Colleges.

1/14/2018 03:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need cars, computers that work and run current software. Replacement chairs in the stations. These are purchases that should be made throughout the year. Seems we have the money to waste on tech that we don’t need. Remember all you morons in city council, you shit on the officers and allowed the liberal agenda to flourish. We are not going to go out of our way to make this city any more revenue when you stall contract negotiations, keep taking away benefits like our pension funds.

1/14/2018 03:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

I think Burke should quit wearing those Frank Nitti pin stripped Zoot suits. ♠️

1/14/2018 10:15:00 AM


And the ironic bit is that only Policemen of certain age
have any idea as to who/what Frank Nitti is...

The institutional knowledge/muscle-memory
is intentionally being diminished and relegated
to obsolescence/obscurity because it isn't
new/fast/flashy/edgy
purpose-built to drive The Police and Policing
into a corner while allowing the swing-dick
community to rage unabated like a wild fire...



1/14/2018 04:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great Grandpa is going senile Not one good idea out of him in years.

1/14/2018 05:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So let me get this straight, because getting equipment at the start of tour may take about 20 min per person:

Radio
Taser
Dept cell phone for districts with SDSC rooms
Body worn cam
Carbine
Narcan (eventually)
This bullshit device (eventually)

1/14/2018 05:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you really, really have a good reason to believe texting contributed to a serious accident, just inventory the phone. Anything that's legal to pull will be there when the powers that be decide they need to. If they don't want it, document and return the phone.

1/14/2018 07:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Which Alderman has a cousin selling these things? Follow the money! Why bother if caught nothing will happen because it is acceptable for the Aldercrooks to steal as much as possible as often as possible. Another example of the Chicago Way and Chicago Values. The rest of country is watching in amazement.

1/14/2018 07:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
My cellphone is my GPS navigation system with on going mapping and hazard warnings.

Tell someone not to use that, it beat holding a Rand McNally paper road map. I remember when those were free at gas stations. Yes, I am that old.
1/14/2018 01:01:00 AM

Well, you better not. Your holding it up to your ear.

1/14/2018 08:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of car crashes…

Perusing the goings-on in the various districts tonight and discovered the Hair Gels in 011 are still having a difficult time understanding the reality of frivolous vehicle pursuits.

Vehicle leaves the vicinity of loud reports near Washington and Keeler. Refuses to pull over. That is until they hit a light pole at Grand and Sacramento at about 60 mph. 3 assholes injured, 2 likely critical.

No one shot.
No gun recovered.
3 assholes that'll accrue 100s of 1000s in medical treatment courtesy of taxpayers.
Easily a dozen-plus coppers risking their safety responding to assist.
Initiating coppers vilified and likely put through the administrative wringer.
Lawsuits guaranteed to be filed, punative damages always a reality.

All for...?

1/14/2018 03:30:00 AM

Every district has those idiots, last year some geniuses in 009 got the explorer going 108mph chasing same thing, dude driving away from shots fired, chase him down, get on the air claiming on view crash in 003 , got traffic arrest and empty holster . Nobody killed this time, also all for ????

1/14/2018 10:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fact that the dumbasses in this state keep voting for this idiot speaks volumes. Even when everyone knows he is just out to enrich himself. Politicians are the problem.

1/14/2018 11:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>Anonymous said...
Democrats are always looking for new ways to take your money.

How bout instead of taking your money, Democrats stress how important it is for citizens to invest their money? Hell, I would even support some kind of ppfinancing classes at the CPS or City Colleges.

1/14/2018 03:29:00 PM<<<

Don't trust the "Free Retirement Planning" touted at the retirement seminars. The fees are outrageous. Instead get the book, HOW TO RETIRE HAPPY by Stan Hindon in paperback.

One thing I wish I had done is put money in Roth IRA instead of all tax deferred comp accounts. Drawing out money has all kinds of tax problems.

A Happy, Healthy & Prosperous Retirement to you all.

1/15/2018 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


1/14/2018 03:29:00 PM<<<
Don't trust the "Free Retirement Planning" touted at the retirement seminars. The fees are outrageous. Instead get the book, HOW TO RETIRE HAPPY by Stan Hindon in paperback.
One thing I wish I had done is put money in Roth IRA instead of all tax deferred comp accounts. Drawing out money has all kinds of tax problems.
A Happy, Healthy & Prosperous Retirement to you all.

1/15/2018 12:31:00 AM

Thanks for this. They have been hounding me.

1/15/2018 05:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Eddie B, where's those AR's you promised.

1/14/2018 07:14:00 AM

Hey, what happened to the police should be armed correctly and trained Eddie Boy.

1/15/2018 08:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Especially since this is the most important problem plaguing Chicago.

1/15/2018 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This Btard will waste money on crap like this but screw over injured employees to save money...except for the incompetent sycophants he owns in order to fulfill his dictates. Take a look at R&D. Hope he loses every cent he stole long before he croaks.

1/15/2018 10:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1/14/2018 03:29:00 PM<<<

Don't trust the "Free Retirement Planning" touted at the retirement seminars. The fees are outrageous. Instead get the book, HOW TO RETIRE HAPPY by Stan Hindon in paperback.

One thing I wish I had done is put money in Roth IRA instead of all tax deferred comp accounts. Drawing out money has all kinds of tax problems.

A Happy, Healthy & Prosperous Retirement to you all.

So I’m not the only one with this problem. I guess it’s a nice problem to have but could have been better
I totally agree with you about the Roth IRA. When I started in 1984 putting money into deferred I was in a lower tax bracket than I am now in retirement
At that time I had child deductions, mortgage, sales and star income tax were allowed and no 2 1/2 % for misc deductions or 7 1/2 for medical expenses
Any now with no deductions and the RMD kicking in I’m in a higher tax bracket. Guess that’s not a bad problem to have
But there are other problems like paying $267.90 Medicare for both my wife and I along with the $300 plus for Aetna Advantage plus the part D drug I have to pay Medicare that I can’t use because my Aetna advantage plan covers drugs. That over $1,200 a month in healthcare
Just one of many problems

1/15/2018 11:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1/14/2018 03:29:00 PM<<<

Don't trust the "Free Retirement Planning" touted at the retirement seminars. The fees are outrageous. Instead get the book, HOW TO RETIRE HAPPY by Stan Hindon in paperback.

One thing I wish I had done is put money in Roth IRA instead of all tax deferred comp accounts. Drawing out money has all kinds of tax problems.

A Happy, Healthy & Prosperous Retirement to you all.


Another big problem is if you invest in stocks, which is the only way to make big money in deferred because interest rates are so low, you loss the capital gains rate for the capital gains. They are taxed as ordinary income so you lose out on one of the biggest benefits of investing in stocks
A good way to go would pay taxes initionally start the Roth IRA and invest in an S & P index fund with very little fees. Vanguard and Fidelity charge like less than a quarter of one percent. Then when you withdraw the money it’s tax free not tax deferred
Warren Buffett one of the richest men in the world made a 10 year million dollar bet with a famous hedge fund investor to see if his hedge fund with high fees because of portfolio managing and professional advice could beat Warren Buffet investing in the Vanguard S & P 500 Index fund. It’s the last year of the bet and the hedge fund made $222,000 and Warren Buffet’s S & P fund made, get this $854,000 almost 4 times as much in 10 years. That what fees can do to you. And if that was invested in aRoth it would be tax free

1/15/2018 11:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

An exert from the bet. The expert from the hedge fund with the expert advice and research surrender ed

By the end of the bet on Dec. 31, $1 million invested in the funds chosen by Seides would have gained $220,000 in the same time period that Buffett's low-fee investment would have earned $854,000.
Buffett's index investment bet is so far ahead of Seides' that the hedge fund manager surrendered the wager in May.

1/15/2018 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lets waste more taxpayer money on a hairbrained scheme. which politicians are going to take the bribe money on this pos?

1/15/2018 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city will mandate the textalyzer once an alderman or their relatives have a vested interest in the machine. Someone has to make money.

1/16/2018 04:20:00 PM  

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