Foot Pursuit Bulletin
Ask and you shall receive:
This seems like common sense. But who knows what they're teaching in the Academy nowadays? The restrictions on everything along with a complete lack of direction and an all-too-obvious absence of political will just demonstrate that the cemetery plot for proactive police work is filled and the daisies are growing.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
132 Comments:
I have been in hundreds of foot chases. From men with guns to goofs who just ran. If there is no foot chases don't plan on ever arresting the real bad guys. Police work is not like TV were the bad guy just gives up. The real bad guys always run and always fight.
This was once a great city. Now a joke of a city. Can't wait to leave Illinois.
Just seems like a whole lot of downside.
What do I get if I'm successful?
All stick and no carrot.
Management at it's finest.
And brass wonder why morale is down....WHAT A JOKE
I would like to ask what the fuck is meant by "characteristics of the officer." That sounds like the "consider the view of the community" horseshit.
Labels: department issues should be
The label should be un-fucking-believable
Simple, 2 point test :
1: Unless he did something for which you can shoot him, there is no point in chasing him.
2: If he did something for which shoot him, there is no point in chasing him.
Seriously wtf has this job become? At this point call cfd so they can refuse the job.
Dont chase for bs...simple
I terminate all of my pursuits before I start.
Why bother doing anything.
Wish I could retire and leave this shit hole.
13 years! :(
If the suspect doesn’t use the crosswalk when he runs across the street, is that grounds for immediate termination of the foot pursuit?
What are the officers characteristics?
?????
As subtle as it is, this "knowledge resource" still puts shit on you. Please, unless the motherfucker just killed or shot someone, don't chase. And in those cases only maybe.
The box on the first page containing fleeing alone is not a crime is the most important thing to remember. Me thinks this is was included because of the thousands of reckless conduct arrests that are thrown out, as well as the potential for a class action lawsuit.
The fact that they put this on paper makes me weep for this job.
Quick facts: Illinois v. Wardlow, Argued November 2, 1999Decided January 12, 2000 …
Illinois v. Wardlow
Supreme Court of the United States
Argued November 2, 1999
Decided January 12, 2000
Full case name Illinois, Petitioner v. William aka Sam Wardlow
Citations
528 U.S. 119 (more)
Prior history 183 Ill. 2d 306, 701 N. E. 2d 484
Holding
The police had reasonable suspicion to justify the stop because nervous, evasive behavior, like fleeing a high crime area upon noticing police officers, is a pertinent factor in determining reasonable suspicion to justify a stop.
You guys have got to go to Liz Wheeler's YouTube channel. This lively lady really sticks up for the police.click on the chelsea manning story. We have to promote her channel.
A wise man says :
Don’t chase/pursue in any manner vehicle or foot.
Give them what they want.... let them reap what they sow.
Can I get a raise?
Foot Pursuit Policy: DON'T!
Now send me all the money I just saved the city in paper and lawsuits.
You're welcome!!!
Look ar it this way. The toddlers are growed up now and they must protect and defend themselves.
Police are now there for answering emergency calls, but only to deescalate situations. Aside from that, all arests are only done by warrants issued based on charges already formerly imposed by POLITICIANS.
You cops get the last laugh.
Meanwhile, good people exercise their rights and shoot all the bad guys and the best part is, nobody can blame the cops!
Who the hell wrote this!! What house mouse in HQ hiding in the building wastes time on posting this dribble. Most of the people in that building are scared of their own shadow!!!
Hell im surprised they didn’t ask officers to call over the radio the weather conditions
John benigno wrote this. Never was in a foot chase in his life. Wears a gun and badge
as ornamental jewelry.
Actually, this was a very reasonable and balanced approach. A refreshing change to the usual crap that has been the norm lately. Unfortunately, even when something reasonable comes out, the general reaction is to call bullshit, and this is an understandable reaction. "Officer characteristics" means are you physically conditioned well enough to run a distance AND effectively control the subject at the end of the chase.
The only concern is the wording of the last point which states the Officer should terminate if conditions are unsafe. In the real world this would boil down to the quality of articulation. In CPD, it could be used to hang the Officer regardless of reasonable perception and articulation . . .
It will be most telling to see what "modifications" occur to this document, and then what is actually crafted into policy. This will likely take the form of a Situational outcome drafting, just like the Taser policy. THEN it would be clear the Job is over.
Answer Do Not Chase Period !!!!!!!
To the 1:35 post. When will everyone understand that case law does not apply in Chicago. The city will determine what is legal or not. The Chicago supreme court is fifth floor of city hall. What Rahm wants Rahm gets. You all voted him in so he's your problem. Might be time to deal with that particular problem before he gets reelected. And he will be reelected you can bank on it.
This Policy has Katz written all over it. After all, isn't it a natural response for normal people/folks to run if the police approach? So why should you chase them? And don't forget to call that canine Unit, or the Saturation Team; why not just call SWAT? These Specialized Units will respond within at least 30 minutes. Though the dogs also have to be trained to not chase people anymore. And the residents of Da Hood are about to lose a primary source of entertainment. Because when the police chase, the Hooting and Hollering from the Peoples/Folks can be heard in the background. There can be no doubt, that from this point forward, young POC's {People of Color} will now run at the approach of police, knowing full well that if they stumble and fall; they will have the basis for a lawsuit! And in a Diverse Perspective, it all makes sense! A Black Guy running with a purse is not Reasonable Suspicion everywhere in the City. In 019, that may be a legit transgender chasing a bus, on his/her way to work! Baby "G"
This is because of Lisa Madigan suing us. Don’t worry, there’s more coming... whatever it takes to get Rahm re-elected.
Define " Characteristics of an Officer." for me Please Boss. Does it mean can I catch"em, Am I more out gunned, Does my Uniform DEMAMD RESPECT????...Please Old Wise one Do tell.....
Remember, that this is just the Training Bulletin.
The actual order with all your restrictions has yet to be released.
19E !
Lol it's not a crime to run from the police. Because criminals go into "jogging" mode when they see us. Just for fun.
Ah yet fools still sign up for this job. By the hundreds they come.
Eddie, you really ought to be ashamed of yourself you really need to go you are becoming the biggest joke in the country.
1.). Too many young, new officers get caught up in the moment and chase dude just because he ran. Oftentimes, they know not what they have when they catch him. This has been going on since the caveman days. Of course dude is dirty, but you need to know why today.
2.) It’s not 1986 anymore. If dude fights at the end of your chase, and you don’t know what to charge him with besides the battery of a PO, you just fucked yourself. Katz, Wexler, and all of the other henchmen of LE hating POTUS Hussein will have your ass in a bag. Especially if Dude is injured. They are very close to making a new GO on this. Many shootings of feral urban youth happen at the end of foot chases.
3.) It’s just a pain in the ass for everyone. Don’t forget the squad car crashes of other POs on the way to assist you with your foot chase. The IODs, takings, hospital guards, etc....no.
4.) Finally, the more cameras rolling on scene, the greater the risk. Remember, it’s other POs who can now fuck you inadvertantly with their behavior on cam.
Make it to retirement, kickback, and roll up a fatty!
This is the outline of last nights chalk talk with the recruits. Feel free to share.
This memo sounds familiar.
This is only an info bullitin not a GO. GO means it’s gospel this just an FYI.
The recruits don’t run in the academy why should they run while working the streets?!?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What are the officers characteristics?
If he or she is fat. Is the officer feeling like a girlie man and wearing high heels, or is medically unfit to run after someone. Other then that, I fucken don't know.
Who’s Carmella means ? What’s her history? Where has she been? Why and how is she qualified to author this?
Don’t chase just wave bye Felicia.
Maybe a voting memeber of the feral street urchin Shithole known as Chicago was RUN’Tover due to a foot chase (for no reason).
Blame the Police is easy, so easy much easier.
Benefits all criminal getaway actions even easier.
The Democrats love this.
Resto-Just Us keeps steamrolling along.
Run or not to run that is the momentous question...
I'm a glass is half full kind of person. This department has given me, one more reason to enjoy my six figure salary, for being a mobile report taker. Thanks Lt. Bingo. 12 really churns out the best and brightest. Your original foot pursuit policy is classic.
Why bother doing anything.
Exactly. Sit someplace safe, and wait to be called for a report.
The police had reasonable suspicion to justify the stop because nervous, evasive behavior, like fleeing a high crime area upon noticing police officers, is a pertinent factor in determining reasonable suspicion to justify a stop.
1/12/2018 01:35:00 AM
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A factor. Fleeing alone is not illegal.
Jesus Christ I know all that,I could of written that policy...and I didn't have it spelled out to me on paper!!! Just through experience!
Characteristics of an officer???????? To me that sounds very racist and discriminatory. So a characteristic would be a white officer chasing a black subject, black officer chasing a white subject, female officer chasing,a well built male or female subject..... What the f*** are they talking about
Wow, I didn't know I had to do all that stuff while running after someone.
I got into a foot chase the other day. My toddler got a hold of my wife's nail polish...then he started drinking the dog water.
Nothing on the 8 command changes??
Abolish the cpd, no use for us anymore, commit ALL the crime you want. We cannot and will not apprehend you under ANY circumstances. It is not allowed anymore.
Supreme Court of the United States
Argued November 2, 1999
Decided January 12, 2000
Full case name Illinois, Petitioner v. William aka Sam Wardlow
Citations
528 U.S. 119 (more)
Prior history 183 Ill. 2d 306, 701 N. E. 2d 484
Holding
The police had reasonable suspicion to justify the stop because nervous, evasive behavior, like fleeing a high crime area upon noticing police officers, is a pertinent factor in determining reasonable suspicion to justify a stop.
Try mentioning this to the ASAs in 102 or Judge hooks courtroom. It gets laughed at as they say those judges don’t think wardlow applies in an urban setting like Chicago where the majority of the city is high crime. Tried arguing that it stemmed from a Chicago stop and I was told they can’t even argue it there. Not guilty
Who is the officer that wrote this? Fleeing is one of the elements that allow experienced, trained officers to formulate reasonable suspicion.
Stopping some based on reasonable suspicion is foolish. Why would an officer risk all to make an arrest. Let the criminal commit a felony, then try to develop probable cause, and then write a report, and then let them issue a warrant. If the guy runs, let him run.
Leave serving felony warrants to the suburban departments and the Marshal's service.
For crying outlaid, don't arrest juveniles or old people.
OT. Personnel changes. Spineless weasel Sanchez finally gets organized crime he’s been holding out for years on and the 4th District gets a recently promoted female LT as a commander who looks like she should be operating the tilt a whirl at a carnival.
I thought we were supposed to catch armed offenders?
Boy you dont need to go foreign to find a shit hole.
There was a foot chase called out recently for a retail theft! My partner and I had a good laugh!
"That by itself is NOT enough"
Never, ever, not once, did I believe I would have to say this to my brothers and sisters in blue:
Go FETAL........let the FERAL have the city........save your $$$$, and get out as soon as you can.....
The democratic liberal-based communities across this land have decreed that laws are NOT to be upheld.....the current voting base
in this city wants it that way.....the democratic liberal-based communities across this land are salivating at the thought of legalizing
12-21 more million citizens of Mexico, who will surely vote democratic......
Those "special words" in this document give you all you need to know about this policy......"characteristics of the officer"......translates to
COPA looking at YOU, not the criminal.....
Go FETAL, stay FETAL.....and you younguns out there: start looking for other jobs.....
R I P proactive police work in Chicago No shooting,No Tazing, No defending yourself, No Chasing bad guys in cars or on foot, No stopping and questioning anyone. No bail, No incarceration, NO one guilty, No one but the Cops, No wonder crime is sky rocketing. No County for Old Cops.
They have won Now give them what they demand NOTHING stay safe stay Fetal I know it goes against our nature but you can't be in a position of going to jail for doing basic police work. They have criminalized the Police.
Well this is just the beginning of a long list of stupid orders and bulletins. The practice of "get your name on paper" to be eligible for promotion has exhausted anything that makes sense. The "tie clip" was the tipping point . Thank God I'm done!
This is not a training bulletin. This is a class outline for one hour of class (out of six months) in the Academy. It does not warrant publication.
I mean, nice work and all, but I'm not putting your paper on my fucking fridge just because you prettified your class notes.
Looks like cut and paste from vehicle pursuit order.
When will you wake up. Don't do a damn thing but answer your calls and write good paper. Take your time.
Oh my God, the leaders of the city have lost their minds. Please offer $50,000.00 to every officer who retires now and replace them with 5'1" 210lb, asthmatic, HIV+, non-US citizen, convicted felon, ADHD, bankrupt, transgender, atheists.
Those persons will provide the service warranted for such a fine city.
America
What do you get if you catch the guy?
Hours of meaningless paperwork because of our shit legal system.
Nah. No chases for me.
The wicked flee when none pursueth.
Anonymous said...
"Holding
The police had reasonable suspicion to justify the stop because nervous, evasive behavior,
like fleeing a high crime area upon noticing police officers, is a pertinent factor in determining
reasonable suspicion to justify a stop."
1/12/2018 01:35:00 AM
...Until The City of Chicago invokes it's
de facto inferred "Home Rule" privilege
and wholly subverts state law in whole
or in part because said law makes no
allowance whatsoever for political and
cultural subset agenda to supercede
the enforcement of criminal law and the
wholesale subversion of The Police who
are duly sworn and EMPOWERED to
overcome all unlawful resistance to duly
enacted criminal laws being enforced?
When hate crazed leftist m/fers dictate these terms
of surrender for The Police and any semblance of
Public Safety, the reasonable man gathers up his
"standard," retrieves his hat and takes his leave.
...Should he not?
Or is there something about this entire "Police Reform"
movement that isn't an indicator of the subversive rot
infecting this city and state?
looks to me like a way to string up a PO if he or someone gets hurt in the process....crazy
about as useful as generating an order on how to make coffee
Wardlow doesnt mean leaving the presence of a police officer while in a subjectively determined area is fair game.
Rights are neither determined by zip code, nor are they relegated to apllying not aoplying bases on the actions of others.
That is to say, refusing to consent to a censensual contact is not itself cause. Period.
Wardlow acknowledges that splitting, digging out, running can be one factor among others. A known felon in a high crime area who rejects a cops presence by leaving doesnt constitute cause to chase and arrest for resisting arrest. There has to be more there than just those items.
Yeah, i agree, that makes a coos job harder. Rights kinda have that inherent nature. Lets face this head on and do this the right way, so criminals actually experience the ride AND the wrap!
Anonymous said...
Quick facts: Illinois v. Wardlow, Argued November 2, 1999Decided January 12, 2000 …
Illinois v. Wardlow
Supreme Court of the United States
Argued November 2, 1999
Decided January 12, 2000
Full case name Illinois, Petitioner v. William aka Sam Wardlow
Citations
528 U.S. 119 (more)
Prior history 183 Ill. 2d 306, 701 N. E. 2d 484
Holding
The police had reasonable suspicion to justify the stop because nervous, evasive behavior, like fleeing a high crime area upon noticing police officers, is a pertinenT
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All true, however, you can still be punished for breaking Department policy, not state law
Does this mean that the Police Academy can stop making the recruit's run so many miles a day in PE class ? What would be the point. They can save money on one less gym instructor .
I would like to ask what the fuck is meant by "characteristics of the officer." That sounds like the "consider the view of the community" horseshit.
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I thought that was curious as well. My thought was they meant fat cops should not engage in foot pursuits. It seems like something that should have been more plainly stated, or at least some examples given of what characteristics matter.
Don’t forget get positive community interaction even numbers. Also those traffic blue cards.
Feds cracked KD. Shitting allover himself and anyone working 02 Sep 15.
LT. Beningno was complete goff when he was a sergeant in 011. It's nice to see his name behind this foot pursuit piece of garbage. Only.the best and brightest as usual. This department is a compete home. It's all fine by me tho, now I get to collect 100k a year and I'm expected to do nothing for it. Time to get a new iPad with unlimited internet access.
Anonymous said...
I have been in hundreds of foot chases. From men with guns to goofs who just ran. If there is no foot chases don't plan on ever arresting the real bad guys. Police work is not like TV were the bad guy just gives up. The real bad guys always run and always fight.
This was once a great city. Now a joke of a city. Can't wait to leave Illinois.
1/12/2018 12:17:00 AM
Holy smokes Batman! 100’s! Wow! You definitely qualify as a “legend.” I want to ride in an elevator with you sometime.
Do nothing and you do nothing WRONG!
I just heard a Democrat candidate for Illinois Attorney General and his entourage were all robbed at gunpoint while politicking in Chicago. I'll bet that if caught they are all wearing Dart's leg monitors and have a business card for Ms. Foxx in their pocket, Keep up the good work Progressive Democrats.
Squad"im in a foot chase, suspect just jaywalked" Sgt "terminate pursuit"
"Officer characteristics"? Sounds like they are fat shaming to me
This is a stupid waist of ink and paper.
Whoever wrote that order must really think coppers are extremely stupid!!
That bulletin is all commonsense shit. What's the big deal? If a subject is pissing in an alley, are you going to risk getting hurt to chase down that ANOV? Is it worth chasing some fool running for a suspended license? If you're an out of shape slob, is it worth having a grabber trying to catch those dudes serving 10 dollar bags. It didn't say don't chase, it said understand the idea of risk vs reward and act accordingly.
Now if you don't pursue, a lawyer will sue you because you failed to do your job. You will be sued no matter what you do, so don't do anything.
19-p
off topic but the pension fund should not demand the social security number of legal beneficiary's. i have other benificaries for other financial matters and they do not ask for Social Security numbers. I take issue with Pension Board giving personal information to the news and media just like COPA and IPRA have done in the past. The pension board is just as bad and the union is scared to speak up. The pension fund needs to stop dirting up officers to the media to influence matters that have occured in the line of duty and irrelevant to disabilty matters.
FOP needs to speak up about this stuff and stop pretending its not true. The pension fund is guilty for leaking information to the Suntimes and other media outlets. FOP stop the smoke and mirrors and do your job. While your at it coppers deserve to be treated professionally when injured in the line of duty. Start standing up for coppers with certified IOD's and stop making them get roasted at the pension board. cops should never have to pay a lawyer when the city recognizes the officer has a existing certified IOD with City and appears at pension board. Treat officers with Act of Duty disabilities with appriacation. Stop trying to break these officers even more. FOP is silent and should be ashamed. Stop the bs. Cops with existing disabiltys appearing at the pension board is harrasment and wrong. The pension fund knows the medical facts prior to the hearing. Its wrong to drill guys that are hurt when the board knows so anyway. So wrong and only harms officers even more. no reason when CPD medical is aware pf existing disabilty and then make disabled coppers get roasted at hearings . Thats harrassment FOP. Just ask disabled coppers . FOP your terrible and wrong being silent.Scam is roasting coppers disabled when everyone knows so. Who's side is Tim Novak really on? the more FOP stays silent about Tim Novak should make coppers question if all this media calling out is a show by FOP.
Why the hell is everyone so bent out of shape. It’s common sense. Stuff a lot of P.O’s
don’t even know. Everyone just needs to cry and bitch about something don’t they.
Anonymous said...
The recruits don’t run in the academy why should they run while working the streets?!?
No way. They have to run
In BOLD type on page 2...
“Supervisors should monitor foot pursuits...”
“Officers should be mindful...in determining if a foot pursuit is appropriate.”
To me this means if it goes bad in any way at all it is on us, the POs and Sgts. That tells me that just like a car chase I’m only chasing on foot for something very serious. You young ones remember this. It may have been rescinded (within minutes of release) but it is a clue to their intentions.
1. I would be EMBARRASSED to even have my name on this garbage !!!!!!
2. I SHOULD BE CONSIDERED NON-POLICE MATERIAL for APPROVING THIS JOKE !!!
3. I expect the individuals responsible for this to receive some type of an AWARD !!!!!
Only thing I’m chasing is the 1st & the 16th😂😂
I’m ok with it. I don’t chase people anymore anyway. At least I can now point to the piece of paper to back up my actions.
Try mentioning this to the ASAs in 102 or Judge hooks courtroom. It gets laughed at as they say those judges don’t think wardlow applies in an urban setting like Chicago where the majority of the city is high crime. Tried arguing that it stemmed from a Chicago stop and I was told they can’t even argue it there. Not guilty
-- I believe it. So where exactly do these omnipotent geniuses of law suggest this ruling be applicable? Dogpatch, Idaho? The reason the majority of the city is high crime is because of lawless softballs who make excuses for all these animals like these judges and ASAs. Unfuckingreal!
I want to come back as a deck so I can sing
"Under The Boardwalk"
Thats all very common sense. Though its insane for anyone to get into a foot chase
I stopped doing police work years ago. After bs lawsuits and getting airtight cases tossed by liberal judges I threw in the towel. Guess what, quit smoking, lost weight, and I still get paid. Phuck this city. Out very soon.
WARNING: There are no real life chases like "I Spy"
(besides, you might get your white Levi's dirty)
This city is a "shithole"
Anonymous said...
I have been in hundreds of foot chases. From men with guns to goofs who just ran. If there is no foot chases don't plan on ever arresting the real bad guys. Police work is not like TV were the bad guy just gives up. The real bad guys always run and always fight.
This was once a great city. Now a joke of a city. Can't wait to leave Illinois.
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But you CANT leave us superman!! We need you on tac to save the city!
1029am!!!
BUT the righteous are as bold as a lion!
Speaking of useless orders. Has anyone done their Department Directives homework yet?? November 132 pages, December 102 pages, January 150 pages. 384 pages of new/revised orders in 3 months. Is this CALEA bullshit worth it??. You could hold yourself down a 1/2 hour a day every period just reading the required orders.
Remember, the system times how long you are logged in, so if you click the 'got it' button in 30 seconds, the powers that be know you didn't read all 386 pages in that time.
Be like Dar D at Midway Airport. The guy spends his entire career at airport unit. Never chased anyone except ex. to pummel. Is that guy still at Mdw? Or fired?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Officer characteristics" means are you physically conditioned well enough to run a distance AND effectively control the subject at the end of the chase.
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That's a great definition. Now, if that is in fact what they meant, why didn't they just say that?????
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Yah, squad I'm a F/2 with long blonde hair chasing an M/1 juvy with a gun
Are my characteristics ok to continue the chase?
Negative, 2644, according to the 'characteristic table' you may offend the Community. Terminate the chase.
'99 squad, have 2610 meet me at the termination point to download my BWC and ICC.
Hold me down reviewing the footage with the WOL while I do my FPR. (Foot Pursuit Report-- CPD 11.915)
Fast runners became the Police in my generation 1960,70s that’s why tact teams were established younger Chicago Finest some were fast.
Simple, 2 point test :....l.ll.
1: Unless he did something for which you can shoot him, there is no point in chasing him.
2: If he did something for which shoot him, there is no point in chasing him.
1/12/2018 12:28:00 AM
LMAO - thank you for making my night,
- Follow the Money
Saw comments regarding the “common sense” nature of the policy, it is another tool for COPA to hang you on something. The message is very clear...don’t engage in proactive policing. Oh and that Beta Cuck is right where he belongs, safe and sound in a cubicle, telling fake or borrowed war stories to people forced to listen or return to the street.
Re the whole "Characteristics of the Officer" bullshit: Could you audition for (and win!) the role of Chief Wiggum in your local repertory theater's production of The Springfield Follies? If the answer is YES, just look the other way and finish your doughnut like a good merit hack.
And just like that, she's gone. https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/another-blow-for-police-reform-deputy-ig-for-public-safety-resigning/
This is brief and sensible training bulletin. Experienced officers who have engaged in many foot pursuits should have no issue with anything written, as it is all true.
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
Who’s Carmella means ? What’s her history? Where has she been? Why and how is she qualified to author this?
1/12/2018 07:31:00 AM
She is a p.o. who has a law degree. Works on these orders and publications but has no sense of what it's really like out there. Isn't even aware that she contradicts herself all the time. She went to an exempts meeting to explain the ISR and baffled everyone in the room because she didn't know what she was saying and she had it in front of her.
Remember, after you catch him, you have to fight him.
I don’t understand why everyone is so bent out of shape about this. We are supposed to stay fetal anyway so orders like this should have no effect on what we do. Stop getting upset and just take this as an approval from the brass not to do anything.
Now retired..."Fleeing in itself is not a crime..."
If the mope ran disrupting traffic, caused pedestrians concern or anything else disruptive we would charge him with a carefully worded Disorderly Conduct. Unless we would find the gun, dope or had a victim.
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Yah, squad I'm a F/2 with long blonde hair chasing an M/1 juvy with a gun
Are my characteristics ok to continue the chase?
You aren’t going to hear that often. More like I’m in the front and what is a chase?
A subject taking flight on the sighting of an officer can be the source of great entertainment.
Was working plainclothes when we pulled to the curb where a group ne'er do well looking men where just standing. I said something to my partner before I exitted the car. As I got out, one of the subjects rabbitted down the block. I just put my garbage into the trash can and left
Found out later that he ran out into traffic and was hit by a car.
Over 20 years later I still laugh about it.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is brief and sensible training bulletin. Experienced officers who have engaged in many foot pursuits should have no issue with anything written, as it is all true.
1/12/2018 11:30:00 PM
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ya, it's all true, and it's all fucking obvious too you goof. Did you learn anything from this order?
Criminals: Born To Run
In our perverted society, if the actor has a heart attack
while being chased, it will be blamed on the officer.
Defense will say he would have been fine if not chased.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Try mentioning this to the ASAs in 102 or Judge hooks courtroom. It gets laughed at as they say those judges don’t think wardlow applies in an urban setting like Chicago where the majority of the city is high crime. Tried arguing that it stemmed from a Chicago stop and I was told they can’t even argue it there. Not guilty
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Wardle is a case FROM Chicago.
1,000,000,'s of black men , including yours truly , walk& drive down streets in the U.S.A. everyday and are never stopped , harassed by Police . The ones that are usually committed a crime or traffic violation . Once in a blue moon , a violent crime just occurred and a non criminal may be stopped because the fit description of wanted person .
Time to stop listening to racist activists , politicians that use racism to keep power .
God help us!
Anonymous said...
Speaking of useless orders. Has anyone done their Department Directives homework yet?? November 132 pages, December 102 pages, January 150 pages. 384 pages of new/revised orders in 3 months. Is this CALEA bullshit worth it??. You could hold yourself down a 1/2 hour a day every period just reading the required orders.
Remember, the system times how long you are logged in, so if you click the 'got it' button in 30 seconds, the powers that be know you didn't read all 386 pages in that time.
1/12/2018 09:35:00 PM
Who cares?
You’re on the hook for knowing what’s in the orders. Always have been.
No matter what, it’s on you!
Anonymous said...
Now retired..."Fleeing in itself is not a crime..."
If the mope ran disrupting traffic, caused pedestrians concern or anything else disruptive we would charge him with a carefully worded Disorderly Conduct. Unless we would find the gun, dope or had a victim.
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Then you were guilty of putting cases on those who pissed you off cause they ran-just like officers today who also write that a running offender disrupted traffic (lie) or caused some nameless/faceless unknown citizens “concern” (lie).
Total bullshit arrest that you acknowledge through your use of the phrase “carefully worded”
My partner and I have our own foot pursuit policy that we've been following for quite sometime. It's much more restrictive than this.
So do what they want, every foot chase ask for helicopter, if you're near water ask for the marine unit, and if your in a park then ask for mounted unit. If you loose him ask for canine to track.
My partner and I also have a foot chase policy. We see someone bolt and run from the group, we ask ourselves, is he being used by the group to be a decoy or is he really running from the police because he has a gun, warrant, or dope. Whatever we assess we don't get involved in the foot chase. We then drive to a spot of advantage and observe the group. Most of the time the asshole who ran comes back to the group. Then we drive up on the group like we are going to do something, and the same asshole runs off. We go to lunch and come back and if we are in the mood, we drive up again to see who is going to run. After
awhile when we drive up no one runs anymore; then we double back if we are feeling policie and stop and do the usual illegal search and name checks. I'm telling everyone, after name checking the folks, 70% of the time we get a gun, dope, or someone has a warrant. For us, it's a fun thing to do. If we are not in the mood, we sit back and watch the mayhem, take our time driving to jobs, back up other officers, recover a stolen vehicle, and participate in the fetal craze. Yep, live is good, stay safe. Oh I almost forgot, fuck you Tiny Dancer, burn in hell.
The only run I plan on doing is running from Chicago and Illinois!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Officer characteristics" means are you physically conditioned well enough to run a distance AND effectively control the subject at the end of the chase.
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That's a great definition. Now, if that is in fact what they meant, why didn't they just say that?????
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Yah, squad I'm a F/2 with long blonde hair chasing an M/1 juvy with a gun
Are my characteristics ok to continue the chase?
Negative, 2644, according to the 'characteristic table' you may offend the Community. Terminate the chase.
'99 squad, have 2610 meet me at the termination point to download my BWC and ICC.
Hold me down reviewing the footage with the WOL while I do my FPR. (Foot Pursuit Report-- CPD 11.915)
1/12/2018 09:51:00 PM
nicely done
I don't foot chase nor car chase. If you chase a vehicle and jagoff hits a pedestrian, and the pedestrian dies you have to stop and render aid. Get ready for law suits. I've seen this happen time and time again.
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