NYPD Contract Protest
- What a crumby way to start the week! About 100 protesting cops chanted outside Mayor de Blasio’s favorite Brooklyn bakery Monday as Hizzoner chowed on a flaky pastry ahead of his usual morning workout.
The angry mob screamed at de Blasio through the windows of Colson Patisserie in Park Slope as he, Chirlane McCray and a City Hall spokesman dined inside. De Blasio enjoyed his pastry so much he poured the crumbs off his plate and ate them out of the palm of his hand.
The protest in Park Slope came after the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association announced it had opted for arbitration upon reaching an impasse in contract negotiations with the city. When de Blasio ventured across 9th St. to the YMCA gym at around 8:20 a.m., the rowdy cops surrounded him on all sides — hurling insults and blowing whistles.
The FOP is coming up on a year without a Contract - and a suspicious uptick in media hit pieces. The PBPA is closing on two years without a Contract. Maybe some NYPD-type action would bear some amusing Rahm reaction.
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
129 Comments:
If it was FOP, they would had rolled over and let blasio pet their stomach. fop 7 is full of a bunch of dirt bags
When was the last time there was a meeting between the FOP and the City, last year? I say enough of the niceties. The hell with the “we won’t bargain in the media”. Billboards at the exits from the airports . Anything and everything to throw a shot at this little fucking twerp. They don’t bargain in good faith, so we shouldn’t either.
Would be quite nice to see this happen. Only problem is that he doesn’t release his schedule to the
Public, and it’d be doubtful that we could get intel from anyone on his detail. Oh well, just vote the little jag off out.
If Rahm shows up anywhere we are, all that little prick should see is our backs.
No balls - no results.
Why the fuck are we paying you people ???
Or.... is Rahm paying you more ?
Too many cowards and stitches on the cpd for something like this to happen.
Police officers fear the mayor, media & BLM so much that they won't even express
themselves on social media 😀
Will never happen. Too many hairgels on tac and guys in cushy spots that would never side with the troops and protest.
Ha yeah right! This dept is so fractured right now and bosses so scared of their own shadows we might as well as bury our heads in the sand. These union guys instead of challenging our bullshit “no strike” city contract or giving the weasel any opposition, we shake his hand when he visits the districts even when he has repeatedly thrown us under the bus publicly and sold us out to the ACLU. We have officers who get jammed up for using appropriate use of force against an assailant wielding a baseball bat and we STILL shake his hand and bow to our masters. They sure knew how to dismantle us through the merit system I guess. CPS has Sharon Lewis who was a pitbul and didn’t take any shit from the weasel. Our former FOP spent thousands of dollars on golf shoes and just tows the line with whatever garbage city hall comes up with. And we’re still risking our safety and jobs catching bad guys while our home fronts our getting the worst police service.
Will never happen here. Too many puds never been the police on this job!!!
What the FOP & the PBPA need to do is start contract talks BEFORE the contract ends, and go for interest on our retro pay.
THAT'S what is going to get the City's attention!
In light of what's been going on in Chicago and the CPD, the FOP needs to call an all membership meeting and decide on a plan of action. Nobody is just going to step up and start up a course of action by themselves. To hell with the golf outings and all the other baloney. FOP do something!!!!
Where and when?
I feel that there is no rush to get the contract settled, not should there be. Let the economy pick up, and let 9 1/2 keep blabbing about spending, then send it to arbitration.
The most important thing has always been discipline, and with the current atmosphere, we'll get hammered.
This FOP lodge 7 sucks...All they do is take our money and then ? Maybe we should just drop the union..what good are they...
I guarantee that if we were able to strike we would squeeze the little dancers balls dry too.
FOP 7 sucks!
Rham only have to complain about something-- and the FOP gives in... if the FOP where a prostitute...damn, it's all holes sold for bottom dollar. You want it? You got it!
De Blasio enjoyed his pastry so much he poured the crumbs off his plate and ate them out of the palm of his hand.
Crumbs, kinda what the icky twerp Murder Mayor had in mind when he vowed to stick it in the ear of every retired and working Chicago Police officer...
Hizonner would have had the second pastry, but there were cameras present. He'd be in hot water with his lovey bride. So like the police, he had to settle for crumbs.
I don't need no stinking pointers.
I really want a Black Lab.
I love you guys that say not enough people who are the real police. Police work has been dead for quite a few years pal. Maybe you didn’t get the memo. And since I got no clout for a meritorious promotion, I’ll find the best spot I can put in as many yellow slips as I can until I can get out with insurance and a pension. Every man for himself on this department, it’s been that way for sometime.
Grandma said you can only get walked on if you lay down.
BLM has more meetings and negotiations with the City regarding our contract than the FOP does.
Something’s rotten in Denmark.
You know what gets into the press? All the stories about all the payouts the city makes to ghetto lottery claimants. Case in point is in today's paper where the city paid 1.5 million to the family of a 4 Corner hustler that the FBI had on their radar. For Christ sake, the city coughed up about 5 million to McDonald's family before the video was released. And all the while they point the guilty finger at the police. The number of capital improvement projects that land in ghetto neighborhoods while areas paying the freight see decreases in police manpower ought to wake people up, but Tiny has the media looking the other way. The new Police/Fire academy projected for the west side ought to go the way of the Lucas Museum. Parking limitations and inaccessible access via public transportation should have been an eye opener, but not for this pandering midget. This guy is beatable. He thinks he's shoring up support in the black and hispanic communities. And all the while he's pitting these constituents against you, making you the bad guy and him the savior. What a prick.
Speaking of FOP, how did Rich Aguilar get back on FOP payroll?
Leave Rahm alone!!
I have 15 months left and would like to leave under the current agreement.
I don’t see it getting any better.
Him, Rahm and the rest of them are all liberal democrats who hate the police. No surprise. The FOP has zero balls and wont and haven't put any push back on Rahm.
The guy who had billboards at the airports, great idea, post them along the Kennedy, Ryan, Stevenson, embarrass the little jagoff.
The FOP sold you a contract that included the replacement of patrol cars as a "benefit" , as if the city was never going to replace them anyway. Maybe this time around they can negotiate fuel for them too?
Set a date for a March outside city hall! Everyone that rahmie has screwed. Do we really need fop to set this up? No!
It would be awful if all the Officers that actually worked outside the office, if they all got sick and the house mice had to venture outside and actually answer calls for service.
J.J.
The FOP hierarchy always wanted the contract decided by the PB&PA. The FOP could then be Pontius-pilot of the whole thing. The membership is not that stupid.
When a politician or anyone else you don’t care for wants to shake your hand, bend your middle finger into your palm. When they grip your hand, wiggle your middle finger. See how fast they drop your hand or wait for their reactions. It can be comical....
Fop is not a union that is why I don't belong anymore Iam retire what they did with the insurence was it I will also vote for the black guy fuck Fop
As a show of solidarity and protest the suckholes on Rahm's security detail all asked to be reassigned back to districts...right?
No?
Then STFU and take the f@cking you deserve.
When I was at Bauer’s funeral, I was talking with a guy from the NYPD and he asked why we don’t turn our backs on Rham. I told him too many people don’t want to lose their “spot” and that they had a real union with power and was nothing like the amateurs we had running the show.
Is eating pastry a good idea before a workout. I would worry about hurling. Unless he works out like his hero Obama did in that Polish video.
look if you want a contract in your favor you must get on the mayor ass and stay on it 24-7 everyware he looks you will be their. The mayor has no respect for you and will fuck you any time he can. you need to teach him respect for you and the people of Chicago he works for. you need to make more noise father flaky or BLM ect.
Now go out and get the little twerp. make him know that if he dos not support you he will not have any rest ever. give hell harry.
now is the time to embarrass this clown. Election year! We need to ruin this prick
Once again, the representative from 25th district is right. Thank you, Sir Donkey. Our best advantage lies in waiting until after the Mayoral election. Here’s a prediction: the City offers a measly raise, but strips much disciplinary protections; we say “Here’s a counter offer,” and the City says “You’re unreasonable - off to arbitration.” IF we push now. Wait until after Rahm wins. Then he has much less reason to buy into the fake reform bullshit.
“ flakey” 🤔yes indeed
File a law suit now to lift residency, that is all the leverage needed.
News from GD's in 24. Ha, we are so divided and our leadership is sackless. The most dangerous gang leader on the north side walked in to 24 demanding his property and the shaky LT on the 3rd watch just about bent over and spread his cheeks for him. Way to back your people. Next time the Commander asks for activity, remember his hand picked LT will throw you under the bus.
Supposedly, the last contract passed with a majority of votes from this membership, with 3,000 or more members declining to send in a vote at all, even though they were provided with a self addressed no postage necessary envelope to return the ballot in.
Let me say that again. The last contract did not even need to go to arbitration, it passed with a majority of the vote, supposedly.
The City dangled that retro check, and you guys jumped at it. Yes, we are that short sighted and yes we deserve what we get.
We had our own union reps screaming in the districts, “this is the best we can get, don’t let it go to arbitration!”.
As if everyone had a crystal ball that could predict the future and see what the outcome of arbitration would be.
CPD is not NYPD, Chicago is not New York City, and unlike officers on the NYPD, officers on CPD have the dubious distinction of being members of the last major department in the country that still has a Residency requirement.
NYPD is a true brotherhood, as they’ve shown time and again. We are fractured along so many lines, it would ridiculous if it weren’t tragic.
03:16 AM
You are right on point my friend!
Would be quite nice to see this happen. Only problem is that he doesn’t release his schedule to the
Public, and it’d be doubtful that we could get intel from anyone on his detail. Oh well, just vote the little jag off out.
Your the Po, Po, for Khrist sakes! put a little time in and figure it out. you shouldn't need the info from his detail.
When the NYPD PBA says to jump you say how high, or you azz will be reporting to the most distant and fuked up house they can dream up. Ok back to my nap.
With the history of merit promotions in place, no one will jeopardize being singled out for any cause.
Where is "silent Kevin?" He must be attending the "shut yo mouth silent dean" school of "Don't you all worry I gets mine!" On a more important topic media bashing the police "routine traffic stop"
http://video.foxnews.com/v/5761425358001/?#sp=show-clips
I know we are not making as many stops but in case review this video,make sure you practice and make sure your weapon is clean,ammo is fresh, and when you get out of the car make sure your not like many stupid coppers looking down at their cell phones and texting or working on facebook! look at how quick this happened, with the fake news lying dishonest media constantly pounding the anti-police narrative and the small minded that believe this nonsense the disaster could come at any time! Watch each otehrs "6" also at all times! See a copper doing a traffic stop roll up and sit and watch be alert the brothers and sisters in blue thin blue line gets thinner here everyday thanks to the democrats!
Could this be the 7th sign............................
So nice to see DACA, welfare, er entitlements, every piece of garbage rewarded.
Don't know when, but think it was after Reagan did in the APTA union, that all these SOBs f with the workers/unions, screw them over and then repeat the process.
"You're lucky to be working here" vs the more grateful "thank you for your service."
After those a-- holes demoralize you, beat you down more, you will have rent-a-cops, as nobody good will apply.
RAHM: be careful what you wish for! You got ca$h for O'Hare, etc.... you can take care of your protectors!
Stay strong!
NOT ILLINOIS. NOT LAW.
RottenRahm the open wallet pandering backstabbing liar has gotten off very easy...for over 7 years.
Same for Section8’Arena.
Plan it.
We will come.
Cooter and his signage are ready.
Stay Fetal.
Those that have been police are part of the problem. You voted for the line of worthless tools that ran your union into the ground. You bitch about clout but you use that as you guide posts in choosing leaders. Your afraid if electing someone that will rock to boat and be an articulate spokesmen for media interviews. Your wasting your dues for this cast of characters.
Rahm has told Bruce dold of the tribune to write one hit piece after another against the police and they obliged. Rahm has made it perfectly clear that his path to reelection will be by pandering to feral predators and illegals. He must be stopped.
Think I’m motivated to help you, Rahm?
Friend just dumped her house for $450000 at Milwaukee/Central.
By the time I’m 55 under current contract, 5150 Milwaukee housing project will be built.
I won’t get nearly that once the word is out about what Rahm and Arena are moving into the hood.
Insurance for the maxed out.
Now!
Think I’m a motivated employee, Rahm?
Enjoy Wilding Season, Rahm!
👮🏻🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣👮🏻♀️
Push lifting residency question on the candidates for the election, might not go anywhere but still could help in negotiations, get something for nothing !
FOP are a bunch of goofs who remain silent after new ISRs, body cams, ACLU contracts, etc.
maybe time to leave the FOP and try to get the New York union to come here and show our goofs how it's done. All the FOP knows to do is party and feed their fat faces NO ONE OVER 70 HOLDING OFFICE
The difference between New York and Chicago is those that work in New York stick together we in Chicago are all independent of one another
Protesting officers will be followed to their cars, their license plates will be collected and illegally run, will be identified and be slandered in the media, COPA and IAD for expressing a political opinion. Just kidding, that would never happen in the USSA or Chicongo....
If you didn’t vote or never vote YOU are the problem and can’t blame anyone but yourself. If your kids are 18 make sure and register them and explain the simple fact their inheritance depends on your housing value. Make ARENA Public Enemy # 1!
What the FOP & the PBPA need to do is start contract talks BEFORE the contract ends,
Nice idea but Illinois state labor law does not allow a bargaining unit to negotiate prior to the end of the current contract.
Info on entire ppo class coming out of academy getting stripped ?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Will never happen. Too many hairgels on tac and guys in cushy spots that would never side with the troops and protest.
3/31/2018 01:56:00 AM
Divided we will fall every time. I get officers not wanting to risk being on someone’s radar, but if there were enough of us that unified they couldn’t do shit to us. Unfortunately there’s too much indifference in this department. Too many people that can’t see the forest for the trees. Until we band together and show City Hall we’re tired of being fucked with nothing will change.
Just how is this going to help them in their contract negotiations? All they have managed to do is piss off the mayor and the people at the bakery. Why they would think this was a good idea Escapes Me. But people do stupid stuff all the time. I guess New York police are not immune from doing stupid s***. The absolute last thing that any public employee wants to do right now is have their contract negotiations come out in light of day. when the taxpayers find out how much the new contract is going to cost them they're going to have a cow. Best not to give them any more advance notice than you have to. Even more so in Chicago where the city is all but bankrupt and there isn't any money for the gold-plated pensions and crazy wages and benefits anymore.
I feel that there is no rush to get the contract settled, not should there be. Let the economy pick up, and let 9 1/2 keep blabbing about spending, then send it to arbitration.
The most important thing has always been discipline, and with the current atmosphere, we'll get hammered.
Think it’s bad now? Wait until JVD gets acquitted! (Or at the very least not convicted of all charges). Short of “guilty on all counts,” they will be in riot mode. Hell, they will still riot if they sent him to the chair. It’s what they do.
Try to argue discipline concessions then!
The city will drag their feet and not do a damm thing until after the election. Everyone knows it’s BS and why Rahm is waiting til after the election. For this the city should pay a penalty in interest on our earned retro money. An arbitrator will know the games the city played and how we were deprived of our money and it’s earning potential.
You’ll get more comments to this thread then you’ll ever get actual protesters.
I was on a Presidential security detail at the Conrad Hilton a quite few years back. There was a traffic solo motorcycle man there who got right in the face of ex FOP President John Dineen. Dineen was there as the Intelligence Division liaison to the Secret Service. The traffic guy told him if had did his job as FOP President properly he should have been assigned to either 002 or 011 because he would have fought for the men instead of kissing the bosses asses. Back then we all knew that getting into Intelligence really didn’t require any intelligence. Just think about where Dineen, Donahue, and the Irish guy who got a big job with the County when he retired [I’m old and can’t remember names like I use to] ended up. These three thought more about positioning themselves for jobs if they weren't reelected than they thought of fighting for the rank and file. Back in the 70’s we would have been better off voting for the Teamsters than these self serving mopes. Maybe some Teamster would have taken a dead fish and stuck it up Emanuel’s ass by now. PS: thanks to all of you who contribute to the pension fund so I can afford something other than cat food. The way this Mayor is screwing retirees on insurance coverage is criminal.
Pastry before a workout.
Since the only thing he works out is his mouth,spewing his far-left socialist insanity,I'm sure it's appropriate.
nypd has a real union not like the fop which is bought and paid for by rahm the fop union gets numerous merit promotion goto rich greg and the others so they can take care of their buddies from the 11th and 19th wards no merit promotion if you are A POST 09/11 VET.
never happen greg bella is too busy securing merit promotions for his buddies and friends.,
The last time we banded together and marched on CIty Hall, Daley was in office, and I was a lieutenant. Two weeks after I marched with the troops, I was transferred to a new assignment (they thought they were acting punitively against me, but their action didn't hurt me in the least bit). I don't regret marching with the troops that day, just be aware that the long, bony fingers of city hall will reach out and alter some lives, where they can.
The blog has a bunch of people that tune in and voice their opinions and concerns that go no where. Active members never attend meetings and hold the FOP’s feet to the fire which in turn leads them to do whatever they want with no input from still working officers.
Next FOP General meeting Tuesday 17-April-2018 from 1200-1900hrs
At 1412 W Washington Blvd. This happens every month on the third Tuesday.
ACTIVE MEMBERS, SHOW UP AND VOICE YOUR OPINIONS!
If it was FOP, they would had rolled over and let blasio pet their stomach. fop 7 is full of a bunch of dirt bags
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You nailed it. CPD has a record number of cry babies and would push the crowd to jst shake Rahms had. FOP was and always will be a bunch of buffoons. They should of been long gone 25 years ago. That asshole Dean was nothing but an educated PhD from third world schools. CPD is gone and lost. Just settle in and know NOTHING will change. If SCC ever pulls the plug here, you otj people would think all is on the legit with the FOP and city.
Dean just takes a car from FOP, buys Rahm golf shoes and nothing is done. The new guys of change are just silently sitting around living the good life on your dues.
The picnic and golf outing is the only thing on their agenda. FOP is like a social club in the old 013 and 014 districts 30 years ago.
Guys like Northside when he was active here tried to educate you young copper'. It was A failed endeavor.
All us retired former hard hitters are now looked at as senile old men by the cops on the job today. Keep enjoying the stripping's and a future at call back for chasing a mutt and the mutt falls down and he gets a scratch. Eddie will have you star in 2 hours.
The members need to start de-policing. All police over the U.S. should stop policing for @ days and when people call for service refer them to the elected politicians, black lives matter, ACLU, judges, COPA and state's attorney. After all THEY have all the answers on how to be the police, without ever having handled a single minute of what the police do. Screw them all and strike.
Ha! These clowns at the fop are too busy getting fat off the nice salaries they are getting at our expense to worry about what we need. Disband this fraternal order of pussies and use the dues to hire and retain labor and criminal defense attorneys who know how to read a contract. Hold a meeting with all the watch reps from every district to vote on a contract proposal then formally submit it to city.
Is true dat Schloss get dumped from major accidents ? Where did she go , back to marine unit ?
8 billion bond issue for airport expansion should serve as example the city has the ability to pay when it wants too.
Chicago man is accused of stealing a 68-year-old woman’s car at gunpoint Wednesday morning at Oakbrook Center mall, Oak Brook police said.
Darnell Anderson, 26, of the 4800 block of West Monroe Street in the city’s Austin neighborhood, was ordered held on $1 million bond Saturday morning at the DuPage County courthouse, according to Sgt. Ben Kadolph of the Oak Brook Police Department
great work by the oak brook police and the DuPage county states attorney no doubt had this happened in Chicago kimesha foxx would had given him an I-bond complaining that too many persons of color are being arrested and tom (19th ward) dart would had given him a pizza party a shout out to sgt kadolph oak brook p.d
a friend cpd 016
Divided we will fall every time. I get officers not wanting to risk being on someone’s radar, but if there were enough of us that unified they couldn’t do shit to us. Unfortunately there’s too much indifference in this department. Too many people that can’t see the forest for the trees. Until we band together and show City Hall we’re tired of being fucked with nothing will change.
3/31/2018 12:55:00 PM
There’s still guys making shady shit ass arrests just to keep getting an early duck now and then. If their willing to sacrifice their freedom and livelihood, they’re not going to stand with the rest of us and actually fight this leftist socialist city hall we have.
8 billion bond issue for airport expansion should serve as example the city has the ability to pay when it wants too.
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The bond issue has a revenue stream available to pay for it though.
great work by the oak brook police and the DuPage county states attorney no doubt had this happened in Chicago kimesha foxx would had given him an I-bond complaining that too many persons of color are being arrested and tom (19th ward) dart would had given him a pizza party a shout out to sgt kadolph oak brook p.d
a friend cpd 016
3/31/2018 04:38:00 PM
Errr....Credit goes to ISP. They made the pinch.
Pass off the mayor? Are you really think stupid to think that he has and good feelings towards the CPDC. He's already passed off at the COD so why not give it back to him. Refuse to acknowledge his presence and for goodness sake don't ever shake his hand. Why not even sure money up enough courage to turn your backs to him, nasty that won't happen in the CPD not the same size balls as the NYPD. Forget playing nice in the end it will not matter he's out to screw you any way he can and as often as you let him. So quit batching aactually do something.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Is true dat Schloss get dumped from major accidents ? Where did she go , back to marine unit ?
3/31/2018 03:49:00 PM
Girl, don't go away mad...
Girl, just go away
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Info on entire ppo class coming out of academy getting stripped ?
3/31/2018 12:33:00 PM
Bullshit. No entire class out of the academy is getting stripped
When can I expect to receive my retro check?
The time to start negotiating contracts is about 1 minute after the prior one was signed and in place. Both sides need to start talking about what they want to achieve in the next one - because these processes are glacial.
About 1 yr out from the expiration of the current contract: Tell the City what you want. They need to sit down now and get something signed before expiration.
6 months out - tell them if they don't get their shit together and get something hashed out, you're all walking off the job.
1 week out - take out some ads that let EVERYONE know the cops are walking off the job when the contract expires in a week.
The day of: No contract? Fuck it. Don't go to work.
I give it a day or less - whatever you want will be signed. And you're the reasonable ones because you tried to negotiate 1 minute after the last one was signed, and kept working at it throughout the contract term.
Stop being reactionary to the City's bullshit - let them react for once. Otherwise they're going to continue to treat coppers like shit.
Better yet reach out to certain companies. lets meet them as they visit our fine city. when is the FOP gonna start playing dirty.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Chicago man is accused of stealing a 68-year-old woman’s car at gunpoint Wednesday morning at Oakbrook Center mall, Oak Brook police said.
Darnell Anderson, 26, of the 4800 block of West Monroe Street in the city’s Austin neighborhood, was ordered held on $1 million bond Saturday morning at the DuPage County courthouse, according to Sgt. Ben Kadolph of the Oak Brook Police Department
great work by the oak brook police and the DuPage county states attorney no doubt had this happened in Chicago kimesha foxx would had given him an I-bond complaining that too many persons of color are being arrested and tom (19th ward) dart would had given him a pizza party a shout out to sgt kadolph oak brook p.d
a friend cpd 016
3/31/2018 04:38:00 PM
This is a strong deterrent for other scumbag thugs to victimize people is Dupage county. When thugs see the heavy hammer of justice fall on their fellow coward thugs they will reconsider visiting. This is why Chicago cook County sucks for honest people.
I would love to protest!!!
0337... amen.
0406.... right on.
Ladies & gentlemen, make some noise!! Demand that FOP fight the City to remove the part of the contract that states that if you're terminated, you lose your comp time. More than ever this is a real threat. This was a ridiculous thing to have ever agreed to. Det. March (JVD case) resigned instead of losing thousands of dollars in comp time. This is one way the City scares you in to resigning. Friggin FOP.
City didn’t honor the “me-too” clause with the PBPA. Last 2 FOP raises did not get passed on to PBPA members. Signs of things to come
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Feckless politicians
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Most racists claiming they can't be racists.....they be PoC!!!!
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Most divided and divisive in every area and every sense of the words...
Only major sized city to not be introduced to the realities of Reality....west and south sides included....
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What the FOP and the rank and file of the CPD need for a Union boss is an old retired guy. One that can't be bribed or offered a good spot when he pulls the pin because he already has pulled the pin. Every head of the union since I came on had their eyes on the golden egg when they retired from both the CPD and the FOP. The only exception to that IMHO has been Greg Bella. I don't know Bella but I know who he is. Every other union head that I can think of during my time went on to bigger and better city/county jobs. A old retired guy that wasn't looking for anything except the welfare of the troops is who you need. They can't offer us anything
City didn’t honor the “me-too” clause with the PBPA. Last 2 FOP raises did not get passed on to PBPA members. Signs of things to come
The PBPA grieved that and the me-too was honored. They got the raise and back pay.
This FOP lodge 7 sucks...All they do is take our money and then ? Maybe we should just drop the union..what good are they...
Devil's advocate here.
Like anything in life, it's only productive if used correctly.
If you want to kick your union in the ass, then by all means do so.
But.............
You have to SHOW UP TO THE MEETINGS!
Is true dat Schloss get dumped from major accidents ? Where did she go , back to marine unit ?
She got dumped back to 024. Landed on 3rd watch.
Speaking of FOP, how did Rich Aguilar get back on FOP payroll?
How did he get back on FOP payroll? Rich was always about himself and never fought for anyone. He is a great example with what's wrong with FOP. He is a know it all that knows shit! He is an ass on the phone. Our dues shouldn't go towards Richie "I don't do shit" Aguilar's salary.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
City didn’t honor the “me-too” clause with the PBPA. Last 2 FOP raises did not get passed on to PBPA members. Signs of things to come
4/01/2018 02:16:00 AM
You are somewhat correct. They paid the Lts. for the 1st of the raises but not the 2nd. Sgts and Capts did not get either. Both are loser cases towards the city. As usual, the city does what they want regardless of contract, but will lose this one.
For the poster asking when he/she will get their retro.....forget that and focus on contract protections, medical coverage issues and pension issues. That is the big picture.
police demonstrations during election.
Contract negotiations should be a breeze with all the drop in crime the media explains.
3/31/2018 10:01:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The time to start negotiating contracts is about 1 minute after the prior one was signed and in place. Both sides need to start talking about what they want to achieve in the next one - because these processes are glacial.
About 1 yr out from the expiration of the current contract: Tell the City what you want. They need to sit down now and get something signed before expiration.
6 months out - tell them if they don't get their shit together and get something hashed out, you're all walking off the job.
1 week out - take out some ads that let EVERYONE know the cops are walking off the job when the contract expires in a week.
The day of: No contract? Fuck it. Don't go to work.
I give it a day or less - whatever you want will be signed. And you're the reasonable ones because you tried to negotiate 1 minute after the last one was signed, and kept working at it throughout the contract term.
Stop being reactionary to the City's bullshit - let them react for once. Otherwise they're going to continue to treat coppers like shit.
3/31/2018 10:22:00 PM
Hey genius, the law says that we can't walk off of the job. Please educate yourself before you post nonsense here.
Ladies & gentlemen, make some noise!! Demand that FOP fight the City to remove the part of the contract that states that if you're terminated, you lose your comp time. More than ever this is a real threat. This was a ridiculous thing to have ever agreed to. Det. March (JVD case) resigned instead of losing thousands of dollars in comp time. This is one way the City scares you in to resigning. Friggin FOP.
4/01/2018 01:51:00 AM
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This goes back to the 1980's.
One of Hanhardt's detectives was being fired (possibly indicted.. can't remember) and he walked away with thousands of hours.
After this, in the next contract the FOP agreed to officers losing their hours.
HOWEVER, yes it should be changed.
The hours are still the property of the employee.
When can I expect to receive my retro check?
3/31/2018 10:01:00 PM
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About 6 months after contract is approved by City Counsel.
I would guess sometime around 2022.
3 years after the election.
Anonymous said...
City didn’t honor the “me-too” clause with the PBPA. Last 2 FOP raises did not get passed on to PBPA members. Signs of things to come
4/01/2018 02:16:00 AM
PBPA has a me too clause and we don't FOP should get the "me-too" clause back for us
Anonymous said...
Ladies & gentlemen, make some noise!! Demand that FOP fight the City to remove the part of the contract that states that if you're terminated, you lose your comp time. More than ever this is a real threat. This was a ridiculous thing to have ever agreed to. Det. March (JVD case) resigned instead of losing thousands of dollars in comp time. This is one way the City scares you in to resigning. Friggin FOP.
4/01/2018 01:51:00 AM
That would be a good idea What part or sectio0n in the contract is that spelled out?
Anonymous said...
The time to start negotiating contracts is about 1 minute after the prior one was signed and in place. Both sides need to start talking about what they want to achieve in the next one - because these processes are glacial.
About 1 yr out from the expiration of the current contract: Tell the City what you want. They need to sit down now and get something signed before expiration.
6 months out - tell them if they don't get their shit together and get something hashed out, you're all walking off the job.
1 week out - take out some ads that let EVERYONE know the cops are walking off the job when the contract expires in a week.
The day of: No contract? Fuck it. Don't go to work.
I give it a day or less - whatever you want will be signed. And you're the reasonable ones because you tried to negotiate 1 minute after the last one was signed, and kept working at it throughout the contract term.
Stop being reactionary to the City's bullshit - let them react for once. Otherwise they're going to continue to treat coppers like shit.
3/31/2018 10:22:00 PM
First of all, not everyone will walk off the job That is stupid thinking
Few years back firemen said the same thing We will walk off and they will give in before the day is over See how that worked out
For the poster asking when he/she will get their retro.....forget that and focus on contract protections, medical coverage issues and pension issues. That is the big picture.
4/01/2018 11:43:00 AM
Why would you respond to that idiot ? The simple answer some time AFTER the contract is ratified. You don’t know about the raises until the contract and this guy is worrying about the retro like you said , worry about the contract
What did he think we were going to get the retro soon, before the contract was signed? Check your direct deposit, might be there next payday
Anonymous Anonymous said...
City didn’t honor the “me-too” clause with the PBPA. Last 2 FOP raises did not get passed on to PBPA members. Signs of things to come
The PBPA grieved that and the me-too was honored. They got the raise and back pay.
To bad we don’t have a “me too” clause
Maybe FOP could work on that
Sounds like it could be a labor law violation. Rember you already worked for that comp time.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Info on entire ppo class coming out of academy getting stripped ?
3/31/2018 12:33:00 PM
something to do wit a CSA... STUPID MTHER FUCKRS...
See this is what happens when you LOWER THE STANDARDS & hire these IDIOTS.. But hey, it didn't even take a few years, these goofs are/were still in the academy....how many weeks, everyone involved including those who kept their mouths shut are headed towards getting fired !!....
more stupid things to come in the future with these "candidates that dont deserve to be hired but are!!!
Demand arbitration. Enough is enough. Let FOP start the process.
Anonymous said...
Ladies & gentlemen, make some noise!! Demand that FOP fight the City to remove the part of the contract that states that if you're terminated, you lose your comp time. More than ever this is a real threat. This was a ridiculous thing to have ever agreed to. Det. March (JVD case) resigned instead of losing thousands of dollars in comp time. This is one way the City scares you in to resigning. Friggin FOP.
4/01/2018 01:51:00 AM
That would be a good idea What part or sectio0n in the contract is that spelled out?
4/01/2018 02:51:00 PM
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if you read the fine print the FOP can not legally bargain in regards to residency... novel idea though
She got dumped back to 024. Landed on 3rd watch.
4/01/2018 09:23:00 AM
Sincere condolences to 024-3rd Watch.
Maybe Lt. A.S. can show up in uniform?
entire ppo class coming out of academy getting stripped
Enough cheating has been documented that there is consideration being given to dumping the whole class. I don't think they will do it because it will cost too much money. My guess is it just goes away because no one will want to deal with it.
Good to see the new PPO's have embraced Chicago Values early. Lots of merit potential in this group.
Sounds like it could be a labor law violation. Rember you already worked for that comp time.
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government employees are not covered by labor law. just like they are not covered by OSHA.
Q: Just how do you think most of the millennial PPOs got thru school? A: By cheating their way thru, some habits are hard to break.
Enough cheating has been documented that there is consideration being given to dumping the whole class. I don't think they will do it because it will cost too much money. My guess is it just goes away because no one will want to deal with it.
4/01/2018 10:50:00 PM
Brings to mind this quote:
How can cheating be wrong when I'm winning?????
Also:
A little cheating never hurts....
The above from the mouths of babes......grandpa playing cards with the grandchildren...
Class should be fired and instructors dumped .
Maybe FOP should organize a march outside rahm house 🏠 every shift 24/7 for a fair contract
Invite retirees
Anonymous Anonymous said...
entire ppo class coming out of academy getting stripped
Enough cheating has been documented that there is consideration being given to dumping the whole class. I don't think they will do it because it will cost too much money. My guess is it just goes away because no one will want to deal with it.
Will never happen, move on. If it’s documented and they wanted to do it, it would have been done already
nonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Info on entire ppo class coming out of academy getting stripped ?
3/31/2018 12:33:00 PM
something to do wit a CSA... STUPID MTHER FUCKRS...
See this is what happens when you LOWER THE STANDARDS & hire these IDIOTS.. But hey, it didn't even take a few years, these goofs are/were still in the academy....how many weeks, everyone involved including those who kept their mouths shut are headed towards getting fired !!....
more stupid things to come in the future with these "candidates that dont deserve to be hired but are!!!
4/01/2018 08:52:00 PM
30 recruits stripped after 6 months of training? Who is in charge? Will management hold the home room instructor and the sgt responsible? Why did they wait until the last week to handle this problem? This is a failure of management to ignore the problems. I would love to see the paperwork related this is class, if anyone even bothered to document the issues? calloway is safe because Johnson will protect him from his lack of leadership skills. This is embarassing for any major police academy. SMH
How do you cheat on pushups and jumping jacks?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How do you cheat on pushups and jumping jacks?
You count them when you are not doing them
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sounds like it could be a labor law violation. Rember you already worked for that comp time.
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government employees are not covered by labor law. just like they are not covered by OSHA.
4/02/2018 05:47:00 AM
Sounds like if it were illegal, it would have been challenged before. This has been going on for some time and if these guys lawyers that they could beat it, they would have filed papers
Why fie anyone for cheating when 99% of management has cheated their entire time on the job.
Is it true an instructor let his certification lapse and didn't tell anyone, but kept teaching classes anyway? How does management miss something like that?
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