Too Much Politics
Who has heard anything about this? Because it sounds like fun, but obviously a lot of "behind-the-scenes" type stuff:
- SCC, OT, but could you look into last week's FLOP board meetng? Please. Maybe get a copy of the minutes.
It took a cuple guys on the Board well over a year of trying to get the FLOP to finally intervene in the "consent decree" lawsuit that Lisa Madigan brought against the City. Rahm and Lisa has been working feverishly with the "community" to get to a agreed consent decree to fuck CPD over. FLOP lawyers Fioretti and D'Alba did not support the FOP intervening. WHY IS THAT??????
Anyhow, FLOP finally grows a pair and votes to intervene and files a motion to get into the case. Lisa Madigan, who earlier would not even discuss the case with FLOP, now offers all kinds of concessions and carve outs.
Rahm is enraged at FLOP for likely derailing his consent decree, but the City offers concessions too because Rahm has to have a consent decree. Politics, you know.
Then, at last week's board meeting, three Board members (and the lawyers) want to take the "deal", drop the court intervention and jump right in bed with Rahm and Lisa. Who, you ask? Why, none other than the vertically challenged threesome of "disappearing lawsuit" Greg Bella, "Teeny" Deany Angelo, and the Squire of Lincolnshire himself, Kevin Graham. What......the........fuck? One term, Graham. That is all you are getting. Just like your buddy Dean.
Labels: FOP, from the comments
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
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One of the FOP guys came to 3rd watch to talk to us. The guy didn’t know shit lol
Slime and corruption everyway you turn. It's the Chicago Way.
Everyone in 025 can agree with the term “one term Graham” after his visit to 3rd watch roll call a few month back he was chased out of there with his tail between his legs. It was a big shock to him when it was brought to his attention that he is no better than Dean as far as being a vocal voice for the membership. Our FOP is useless when it comes to getting our side of the story into the public. I can’t wait for the next election I am so sick of our union haveing all the ammo against the city and refusing to fire back every single time we are thrown under the bus.
025 3rd watch ☠️
You had me and you lost me.
end aclu deal. back to street stops. Cuff 'em all!
Stop and Detain. Cuff 'em All!
The flop has been selling out forever.
Big surprise.
We should all just opt out. How much worse could it be? 1% 2% 1% 2%....
It was language that guaranteed contractual rights. It did not pass, so therefore out contract and any other contracts are subject to being null under a Consent Decree. Now we are screwed with discipline for sure.
All I can say is the whole Police Department is on thin ice. If they fuck us anymore I doubt anyone will be doing anything more than they have to. The city better brace for a big crime wave.
Hummm. I don't like the smell of this. I'm tuned in.
The Evil Cabal continues.
Jeff Sessions twice said he would not step in. Now we are at the hands of a cook county judge. Who really thinks fop will get fairness in court? Oh please.
FLOP members are paid off by the mayor. As well as promised spots after their terms.
You need a cartoonist to illustrate certain complicated
stories, like when FLOP grows a pair
Another OT, scandal supposedly coming down the pipe involving canine PO. Starts with lawyers kid being pulled over in 017 by canine officer for traffic violations. Canine PO calls for 017 car to handle arrest for misdemeanor weed "found by dog" during stop. Only problems are 017 POs showing up had their BWCs rolling AND POs dog is an EXPLOSIVE dog, not a drug dog. Whole exchange caught on tape and subpoenad to preserve it for the lawsuit. I guess this isn't the first time and this particular canine PO had stepped on his dick... initiated the pursuit that crashed on the tollway a few years back, locked up in Indiana for drunk & disorderly, etc., etc.
Another OT, scandal supposedly coming down the pipe involving canine PO. Starts with lawyers kid being pulled over in 017 by canine officer for traffic violations. Canine PO calls for 017 car to handle arrest for misdemeanor weed "found by dog" during stop. Only problems are 017 POs showing up had their BWCs rolling AND POs dog is an EXPLOSIVE dog, not a drug dog. Whole exchange caught on tape and subpoenad to preserve it for the lawsuit. I guess this isn't the first time and this particular canine PO had stepped on his dick... initiated the pursuit that crashed on the tollway a few years back, locked up in Indiana for drunk & disorderly, etc., etc.
Are you kidding me? The canine p.o. had the nerve to call for a car...I would have said go fuck yourself...You initiated the stop so either do the arrest yourself or let him go. What a fuckin idiot.
All these guys are the same. They lie to you in roll call and promise everything in the world..that is until they get voted in then all of a sudden, once they make that money they dont give a shit anymore. Fuck you Graham, you worst than Angelo! We should drop the FOP and go with the teachers union..they can teach them a few things about negotiations. Dont worry Graham, the Commander of 019 has 1926d car waiting for you when your out of office.
All members need to get the FOP rules change. ie: whoever gets elected president can change ALL people elected under him at his behest. In other words what good is it getting voted in when this can be done. Ask James E. Moriarty who was dumped after being elected and replaced by the King of Lincolnshire!
Called for the 017 district car to process arrestee?? Uhm Hell no it’s your stop & your arrest. I’ll transport for you and if you don’t want the arrest squad dupe it to idiot boy we are clear. The nerve on this clouted idiot.
Please tell me you all see the end game here. If disciplinary changes are made through the consent decree the contract is practically useless. They remove FOP from negotiations and get everything they want. Yet when it's time for contract talks the city will claim discipline cannot be used in bargaining as leverage in other areas (including raises) because the consent decree was already establishd prior.
Watch CFD accept higher healthcare contributions for retirees and a 10% raise over 5 years to assure everything else remains status quo. Once their wages are established, boom -- we are not getting a cent more. So by the time we meet with an arbitartor we'll likely already have our raises and gutted disciplie already decided.
EVERY FOP member better start screaming at this board, letting them know how they feel about this and reminding them that the board represents them NOT themselves.
Unless the FOP wants to see an exodus from their union they had best start actually representing the interests of the rank and file.
On a more important topic I just watched the tribute video for our brother whose life ended way too soon, I’m begging you every police officer in the city of Chicago even though we are being bastardized beat up by so many different forces of evil from the elected to the dishonest media to our own police union look at this tribute video it makes her realize what is important in life :
https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/oak-lawn-il/brandon-krueger-7917166
What am I begging you for? Please help each other, talk to each other, if you notice a member of the thin blue line having any type of problems please help them with them made this brother and blue rest in peace prayers sent to his family!
God Almighty God I’m calling you please protect our police officers from all the evil in the World and the evil that is perpetuated upon the police officers in the city of Chicago amen!
You are surprised that the FOP fvcked up? Not me. I'd be floored if they did something RIGHT.
With all the trouble Greg, Dean and Kevin have caused over the past 8 years I've been following this blog..
How the Fuck are they still on the Local Board?
The FOP is only as effective as its members want it to be. Coppers are their own worst enemy instead of beefin about the FOP the members should fill the hall at every meeting and demand what you want. Since our very first contract every guy running for FOP president was the greatest, until he got elected then he was an asshole. This guy Graham was supposed to be the answer...WRONG. So guys and girls quit beefin and take an active participation in YOUR union. Or as an old timer once told me, " takin care of coppers is like feeding elephants at the zoo, all you need are peanuts." ♠️
SCC - Teeny Deany& the Lord of Lincolnshire, you're on a roll with the humorous monikers in an already farcical scenario. Time to decertify and establish a real union like NYPD PBA.
Retired .38 spl +P
Never have been a big fan of Kevin.
Not a fan of Shields but he seemed like a better choice.
Wheres the guy from 018 who was very vocal and defended us but everyone cried because the letter that cost of a couple pennies in retro wasn't sent (all the fuckin old timers still in the office should've stepped up and said something) sure would like to see that big ball mf'er. (I voted for ya)
Fight. Fight. Fight. KG is naive to trust Lisa and Rahm. Sounds like ulterior motives to me.
OT - heard on Zone 4 radio last night about 7:30. Four M/1's, EACH having a gun, in the 800 block of North Michigan Ave driving a white Dodge Charger, had the stupidity to post pictures of themselves on Instagram Live. Suspects took off south bound on Mich Ave. Heard a call go out (1800?) "do not pursue". (Seriously? Just let them shoot a few people first, eh?)
Suspects soon spotted around 1800 S LSD. Crashed into a few cars along the way. Suspects abandoned their vehicle, fled on foot. IIRC, 3 suspects taken into custody and 3 guns recovered. Never heard what happened to the fourth.
Good job by the officers who took the 3 in custody, but armed savages on Mich Ave? Hit the flush lever because this city is nothing but a turd swirling in the toilet bowl.
Concealed carry needs to be broadened to everywhere, all the time.
148am, we all know about him. He pulls that shit all the time. Makes traffic stops with his bomb dog and pretends it's a dope dog and then tries to pawn off problems that he creates. He's an entitled prick that's always fucking up especially off duty. Took a 10 day hit for getting arrested in Indiana while drunk (google his name and you can find the arrest and mugshot). If you're the one to respond to his "assist" and he tries this shit, tell him to fuck off and handle it himself if he wants to play police. Don't let him put you in the trick bag.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The flop has been selling out forever.
Big surprise.
We should all just opt out. How much worse could it be? 1% 2% 1% 2%....
Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water or something like that. If we don’t have a union the city would not have to negotiate a contract. I know it’s not the best contract but there are a lot of safeguards in there that keeps them from just firing coppers at will. Without a contract there would be no process and you’d be gone. You’d have to hire a lawyer and sue in court for everything.
Thank God the men and woman of the Chicago Police Department has Marty Preib as one of the elected officials of the FOP. Marty always has, is now, and will have the backs of the union membership. There is a BIG TIME PROBLEM within the FOP leadership(a oxymoron of some members) regarding how to deal with the city. On one hand you have Graham and Bella and several others who don't want to fight the city on anything. You describe Bella as Teeny Deany Angelo and you are soooo right. On the other hand you have Preib and Patrick Murray fighting tooth and nail against Graham and on everything. There has been some very loud arguments over how the union should respond to the city. One example is when the FOP marched around city hall several weeks ago. Graham was dead set against it, Preib and Murray was all for it. When the march occurred Graham was interviewed and was the face of the protest but in reality he was dead set against it. It appears that Angelo is pulling the strings of Graham and Bella is his guy to make sure things are going his way. Preib has been fighting this consent degree even before he was an elected official.
Is this Bob Fioretti who is a tool of Rahm and dropped out of the race to back Rahm? Bob Fioretti who had a convicted vote fraud person as his campaign manager in his last fake election against Toni Preckwinkle only intended to raise campaign cash? Is this the same Fioretti who supports cop hater Willie Wilson and was endorsed by racist hypocrites Jesse Jackson sr and junior? Is this the same Fioretti who has a long standing history of not paying campaign staff and especially women? He is going to answer soon in the courts, the ARDC and the board of elections. Will be a giant embarrassment for all involved with him.
The Chicago Way in action, cash under the table and promises of they will be taken care of later down the road. Just what did you expect. You need to move to decertify them as your bargaining unit. They only have their best interested at heart not yours.
FOP leadership is corrupt, just like the rest of city/county government in Chicago. Graham Crackers allowed members to take a survey when he first became president and one of the top issues among members is the out-dated residency policy. FLOP has done nothing to address the residency rule. This bullshit rule could easily be overturned (as it has almost everywhere else in America). All these hacks at FOP like Graham Crackers and J. Capparelli to name a few, are only concerned with their big pay raises and short work days. They look out for themselves and bow down to the mayor. The whole organization is corrupt! Luckily SCOTUS ruled we don't have to pay anymore. Time for members of FOP to pull out to send a message to the corrupt leadership of Chicago FOP!
Rumors of secret deals behind the scenes? I remember FOP saying “ we have to play nice with the mayor.” Hmmmmm. Just whose side are they working for? An old timer told me long ago...” the FOP is only there to muzzle the blue shirts and keep them in line.” Wise man.
First off, there is a lot of behind the scenes stuff going on...it’s called closed door negotiating.
But Rahm and the FakeNews Dems want to put this consent issue out there in the press to rile up the anti-police communitay.
At first I thought this whole Consent decree was just placating the community and would fade away.
Lame duck (2timeFOP endorsed) Mousie Madigan isn’t allowing that.
She’s as looney and bent as obama with her last chance at any legacy citation and a chest to pin it on.
She’s pushing for it as is Rahm to campaign on.
But as it turns out so are IL AG candidates Kwanbe Ratoul (D) and Erika Harold (R).
Rahm is holding on of his last opportunity to screw over the Dept anyway he can.
My opinion:
Offering up no monetary cuts to non pensionable benefits is the only deal he can use.
For FOP to concession this out and agree would be a disaster.
SubTimes reported this as an FOP effort to avoid any public hearings, since Madigroin and Rahm want it wrapped up by this September BEFORE any further Contract negotiations.
Rather sneaky, but who really knows and any contract deal would certainly not be discussed at an open meeting.
Who sells out first?
Time will tell.
Isn’t this city a sister city of Chicago sure looks like it with crime out of control;
Critics slam 'embarrassing' Mayor Sadiq Khan for feuding with Trump while London faces rising crime, knife deaths
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/14/critics-slam-embarrassing-mayor-sadiq-khan-for-feuding-with-trump-while-london-faces-rising-crime-knife-deaths.html
Excerpt:
London Mayor Sadiq Khan slammed President Trump’s criticism of him as “preposterous” after allowing a giant Trump balloon at anti-Trump protests in London, but critics question whether the mayor should be devoting his energy to tackling crime rather than “embarrassing” the city in front of the whole world.
When a mayor of the city cannot control the crime rate The most basic human need is to feel safe law and order just like to city of Chicago out of control crime the chief executive officer is the mayor of both of these cities have no clue to provide the basic necessities so people can go in safety doing what they want to do are doing what they have to do that is what freedom is! When you have cities that decimate the police department, Demoralized police officers working for them,You have a diss honest fake media being fed news that is either false or they twist it to fit the narrative in favor of pandering to the elements of society that are either illegal criminals or thugs that they pander to just to get votes law-enforcement honest people be damned with the Democrats that are elected here!
Truth is: graham has no fight. No balls.
Prieb does.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Everyone in 025 can agree with the term “one term Graham” after his visit to 3rd watch roll call a few month back he was chased out of there with his tail between his legs. It was a big shock to him when it was brought to his attention that he is no better than Dean as far as being a vocal voice for the membership. Our FOP is useless when it comes to getting our side of the story into the public. I can’t wait for the next election I am so sick of our union haveing all the ammo against the city and refusing to fire back every single time we are thrown under the bus.
025 3rd watch ☠️
Problem is the presidents haven’t been effective, but members aren’t given any good choices. They were raving about Graham before the election. Who’s going to run next?
Another OT, scandal supposedly coming down the pipe involving canine PO. Starts with lawyers kid being pulled over in 017 by canine officer for traffic violations. Canine PO calls for 017 car to handle arrest for misdemeanor weed "found by dog" during stop. Only problems are 017 POs showing up had their BWCs rolling AND POs dog is an EXPLOSIVE dog, not a drug dog. Whole exchange caught on tape and subpoenad to preserve it for the lawsuit. I guess this isn't the first time and this particular canine PO had stepped on his dick... initiated the pursuit that crashed on the tollway a few years back, locked up in Indiana for drunk & disorderly, etc., etc.
^^^
......and nothing will happen. At most the beat car might take a few days but the k9 officer is so clouted that even BWC won’t do much when it comes to discipline.
Another secret agenda by the FOP? Too many shady deals and whispers in the halls of the FOP. Not enough transparency for sure. It has always been that way. Since I retired, I have not joined or supported FOP 7. Most of their political endorsements are dubious at best.
Active members should and always have a vested interest to join. And endeavor to root out the evil that has festered for decades. But that ends when your career does. Not a dime to the foggy, whispery behind the scenes deal making FOP 7 for me.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Another OT, scandal supposedly coming down the pipe involving canine PO. Starts with lawyers kid being pulled over in 017 by canine officer for traffic violations. Canine PO calls for 017 car to handle arrest for misdemeanor weed "found by dog" during stop. Only problems are 017 POs showing up had their BWCs rolling AND POs dog is an EXPLOSIVE dog, not a drug dog. Whole exchange caught on tape and subpoenad to preserve it for the lawsuit. I guess this isn't the first time and this particular canine PO had stepped on his dick... initiated the pursuit that crashed on the tollway a few years back, locked up in Indiana for drunk & disorderly, etc., etc.
7/14/2018 01:48:00 AM
Good, if true. Drain the swamp of idiots and clout babies. Get with the program people !
We have CAPS officers in our district and maybe FLOP could go to see them and ask them just how they answer all those questions from the public without saying, "I'll have to look into that and get back to you". They actually think about what the visitors will ask about, prepare remarks and strategies so if the public isn't asking, they tell them what's going on and what we're doing about it. Hey FLOP, what's going on and what are we doing about it? It's not rocket science. It's your job guys, just do it.
I belong to that damn SEIU, they call me and text me about what is happening and protests they want to start or that they want you to attend, FREQUENTLY. These damn anti American union dogs are active as hell protecting their progressive insane policies. What are we doing? Uh, well, we went to a roll call once this year... I know our political, character and family leanings do not encourage all this activism, we by and large just plan our futures within the given guidelines, get part time jobs and try to get enough sleep to function. We tend to just get pissed off and disgusted with the whole damn shit show. These progressives scream, holler, march and make baseless accusations, but they're always bullying elected officials. John Arena wouldn't be alderman if he offended the SEIU members but, he actively besmirches FOP members and their families. We need to elect people to the union that have their financial houses in order, are smart enough to read the tea leaves and have a notion of how to pick a bone with the powers that be that want to screw us. We are inundated with foul, negativity all the time but we need in tune, savvy people in our union. I'm sure we have lots of retirees that wouldn't mind spending a few hours once in a while advancing our cause.
ATTENTION: Boys and Girls, It's Reality Check Time !!! You are the FOP !!! The FOP, can do nothing for you, that you do not "DEMAND" and "ENDORSE" Them to do. When was the last meeting you attended ??? Did you vote in the last election ? More Important, are you ready to take a Job Action ? In the immortal works of the late Jimmy Hoffa, "There Are a Lot Of Guys That Can't Wait To Reap The Benefits" but "Very Few Guys are Willing To Stand On The Line To Get Them" !!!
Disgusted with the performance of the FOP ? Great !!! That's Just What The Powers To Be Want You To Be. Now that the "Janis Ruling" is in effect, the FOP is in serious danger.
PS: Have a Nice Day.
Retiree$ with their hook$ in FLOP should be voted out. And the guy running the show who looks likes like the poster boy for the Cop eating doughnuts with gravy stains on his tie should push back from the table if he can get close enough with his stubby little arms and try portraying an image we can respect not revolt at.
@ 148AM ...
Let me guess, the PO in questions last name is also a big city in Florida? I know of at least one instance (maybe it's even the same one?) where the allegation is 100% true as a friend was on the 017 car that responded to his assist call. Dude is the biggest D-Bag and only made K9 because his family is tight with Street Lights McCarthy. An entitled, spoiled jerkoff thru and thru. Next time you see him ask him about the 10 day whack he took for getting locked up drunk in Indiana about a year or so ago. McStreetlights couldn't save his ass on that one like he did with the terminated chase/crash/shooting on the tollway. Snotnosed punk who is gonna get himself fired for doing dumb shit sooner rather than later.
"Consent Decree".
What a diaper load.
Have a nice day.
So...
Basically every fop administration since the very beginning
has been in collusion with city hall to secure and enrich
their own selfish interests to the total detriment of the
overall membership?
And how can this circus train of treachery be rightfully
addressed when the entirety of the union hierarchy is
thoroughly beshat with traitors?
It is as if Policemen are deemed undeserving
of any rights, protections or even advocacy.
And yet the most violent and nihilistic of
the m/fers they're expected to Police without
a safety net, are lavished with the rights,
protections and advocacy The Police are
expected to do without in the interest of
settling scores, "Reform" and "righting the
wrongs of the past."
But enough about that.
Since fop has been found to be in collusion
with city hall, now what?
Greg Bella Oh yea this Greg Bella who pushes CR numbers on coppers he doesnt like that guy:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-police-union-sues-burge-attorneys-over-fees-20120210-story.html
Greg It's not my money bellowing bella:
On Jan. 28, 2011, Gamboney submitted a bill to the FOP’s former third vice president, who is also named as a defendant in the lawsuit, requesting $203,500 for legal services and additional expenses for work performed outside the scope of the appeal, according to the complaint.
The former union official, Greg Bella, then authorized the payment even though the union says it did not owe Gamboney any money, the lawsuit states.
Like a bad penny he keeps coming back getting another scoop of our money!
Then we have this:
10 people shot, 1 fatally, in 6 hours in Chicago
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-chicago-shootings-violence-20180713-story.html
And rahm and his million dollar campaign contributors are in China yucking it up! Rahm does anything to disparage the country and President Trump, from breaking federal election laws allowing illegals to vote,to pandering to criminals closing down interstate highways, now he wants to think he is a "playa" on the international stage.
But then again maybe he is looking for asylum in that communist country?
Let’s start negotiating Medical Benefits at 50 years and 20 years of Service at 2 percent. That is a win for th City and for are members.Lets agree to help our MEMBERS as well as the CITY.
Hey SCC, Fr. Flakey mentioned the blog on ch32 news last nite. He got very upset when asked why he has armed guards illegally carrying . Lol.
Kevin, you are too quick to crawl into bed with lisa and Rahm.
A highlight of the meeting came when Graham accused Rick King of not having "any skin in the game" referring that the vote didnt affect him. He fired back: I have a son on the job and a grandson in the academy" "So tell me again how i dont have any skin in the game". Graham was speechless. Lmfao.
Capparelli needs to go.
Bella needs to go.
There was way too much bullshit going on with the moore sister's.
Office runs better without them.
Here's my understanding of how this all started. A few months back the board of directors authorized Graham to file a motion to intervene in the proposed consent decree. The FOP filed the motion meaning FOP was seeking to be a part of any discussions regarding any proposed consent decree. The judge in the case could allow or deny the FOP motion. If the motion was allowed, the judge would have had to consider another FOP motion; whether the federal court had the jurisdiction over a request for a consent decree from a state entity (A/G Madigan's Office). Essentially, the FOP was fighting for its members.
At the last board meeting the board considered withdrawing the FOP motions, but the matter wasn't as simple as whether you were or weren't going to fight a consent decree. Graham advised the board he had negotiated language with Madigan and the city which would have been inserted into any consent decree. This wording would protect the current and future FOP contracts, but there was a dilemma. The FOP had to withdraw its motions prior to Madigan and the city agreeing to include the wording in any consent decree. But there was a dilemma here too. There was no guarantee that the judge would accept this agreement between the parties. Essentially Graham was trying to protect his members by protecting the contract.
Throwing the entire board of directors under the bus is a mistake. There are two schools of thought here. Does the FOP aggressively fight a consent decree or does the FOP agree to wording that may protect our current and future contracts?
If you believe that fighting was the way to go, then here are the board members you want to be pissed off at: Dean Angelo, Greg Bella, Bill Burns, Harold Brown, John Caparrelli, Pat Duckhorn, Mike Garza, Dan Gorman, Kevin Graham, Ken Hauser, Jay Ryan, and Ron Shogren. All, except Graham who does not vote, voted to withdraw the FOP motions challenging the consent decree and rely on the agreed to wording to protect our contracts. Graham is included here because he was a proponent of withdrawing the motions.
If you believe that withdrawing the motions was the way to to, then here are the board members you want to be pissed off at: Andrew Cantore, Mark Donahue, Sergio Escobedo, Fernando Flores, Rick King, Pat Murray, Marty Preib, Mark Tamlo, Dan Trevino, Mike Underwood. All voted to keep the motions in place and fight any proposed consent decree.
Board Members Bill Dougherty, Joe Gentile, Jim Jakstavich, Mike Mette, Frank Quinn, and Carlos Salazar were absent from the meeting and were unable to vote.
Anyone who knows the many stupid antics of the K9 goof knows what a truly dangerous and obnoxious moron he truly is. He’s like a Joe Pesci meets The Jersey Shore Character, aka Michael Shore-Lando!
....Office runs better without them.
7/14/2018 03:32:00 PM
The website is rarely updated. They haven’t listed retirees since 10/2017. Most deaths are listed after the services if they’re even listed
I've been a member of the Steelworkers Union, Teamsters, and now this Fraternal Order. All three of them are corrupt and in bed with management. Long gone are the days of unions doing their intended jobs of protecting workers from unsafe working conditions, unfair management treatment, and the like. The unions are politicized and in bed with the left. All they do is wheel and deal together, protect the connected, and screw the regular Joe.
Remember these glaring examples of the FOP not having our best interests in mind? Our "Fraternal Order" past president Angelo, negotiates with the city to purchase new squad cars. That is insanity, allowing the city to use that as a bargaining chip against us. Or how about this one, past administrations looking the other way while the city fails to put their fair share into the pension fund for the past 20 years. Or this doozy, allowing Daley's kin to use our pension fund as a piggy bank on bad land deals?
Nothing fraternal about this order, more like every man for himself.
I said it 15 years ago. DUMP FOP and get a real union. Not this bargaining unit who has the mayors hand up their asses.
I heard a cop in 008 named Johnson , flaker on a case report for criminal trespass to state supported land .. anyone see this ? Is it true ?
It was a
Criminal Trespass to State Supported Land
JB346816
OFFENDERS: Eddie Johnson
Pfleger
Jesse Sr
Yes it's TRUE because I'm the one who filed it
John Catanzara 008
To my knowledge, nobody except Graham has ever seen the proposed consent decree, but Graham wants to have the board accept what he calls “ carve out language “ that Graham believes will protect our contract. The carve out language states in part, the consent decree is not intended to change the contract. It does not state will not, cannot or must not change the contract. I’m paraphrasing, but that’s a hole bigger than the Grand Canyon. It’s like Pelosi said, We’ve got to pass it, so we can see what’s in it. It’s time for Moonlite Graham to disappear into the cornfields of Lincolnshire.
Prieb is the one leading the push back against all this bullshit... consent decree / wrongful conviction money grab / the current politically motivated department investigations going after good Police Officers (ie...Okeefe and Wrigley). Graham and the Angelo idiots are only concerned with keeping their well paid positions. Get along, Go along Graham.
Wake up or get out of the way, Kevin.
nymous said...
A highlight of the meeting came when Graham accused Rick King of not having "any skin in the game" referring that the vote didnt affect him. He fired back: I have a son on the job and a grandson in the academy" "So tell me again how i dont have any skin in the game". Graham was speechless. Lmfao.
Did that guy ever find his lost cainine ?
Always watch your six:
Officials: Chaotic scene erupts with angry crowd after fatal police shooting in South Shore
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-police-shooting-fatal-20180714-story.html
Why in the fuck (scc please excuse the vulgarity) are you being proactive in the jungles of chiraq? When will young and dumb coppers learn? When?
The Slum Times says the union is trying to slow down or derail the consent decree.
Huh?? By demanding a seat at the table they’re trying to slow down or derail the process?
Fuck you Slum Times.
Nothing fraternal about this order, more like every man for himself.
7/14/2018 05:25:00 PM
And, none of the nonsense or looking the other way occurred while Mike Shields was president, but these other fop-holes went after him, set him up and got the membership to replace him. Shields would have never stood for all the bullshit pulled by the rest of them. And, they knew it. That is why they wanted him out. And, no, I am not Mike Shields. I've never met the man, but I know the positive things he did for us and I so wish he was still our president. Other than Shields, the presidency has been nothing, but one clown after another.
Let me guess, the PO in questions last name is also a big city in Florida? I know of at least one instance (maybe it's even the same one?) where the allegation is 100% true as a friend was on the 017 car that responded to his assist call. Dude is the biggest D-Bag and only made K9 because his family is tight with Street Lights McCarthy. An entitled, spoiled jerkoff thru and thru.....Snotnosed punk who is gonna get himself fired for doing dumb shit sooner rather than later.
7/14/2018 01:22:00 PM
Officer Miami again?
And rahm and his million dollar campaign contributors are in China yucking it up! Rahm does anything to disparage the country and President Trump, from breaking federal election laws allowing illegals to vote,to pandering to criminals closing down interstate highways, now he wants to think he is a "playa" on the international stage.
But then again maybe he is looking for asylum in that communist country?
7/14/2018 02:07:00 PM
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One of Rahm's traveling companions to China is Patrick DALEY Thompson. You just can't get rid of that maggot family. He's grandson to old man Richard J Daley.
Since fop has been found to be in collusion
with city hall, now what?
7/14/2018 01:48:00 PM
Call Robert Mueller and get an investigation going.
SEISER for FOP president!
If 008 rumor true about naming Fat Head and Faker on complaint make that officer head of FLOP. Only one who has exhibited a backbone in CPD in a very long time.
Anonymous said...
I said it 15 years ago. DUMP FOP and get a real union. Not this bargaining unit who has the mayors hand up their asses.
7/14/2018 05:53:00 PM
A few of us were saying it over 30 years ago.Your problem is that you are on a job where the majority of your coworkers are small minded and scared of change.I've lost count how many new administrations were voted in pretending they were going to be different and gave us the same old shit.And coppers buying this BS.The only one who genuinely was trying to do the right thing was Mike Shields,but that didn't work out.A combination of his inexperience,ineptitude and mostly back stabbing sabotage by the old useless pieces of shit.I'm retired now and dropped my membership immediately as I'd advise every retiree to do.Good luck,but I think 10 years from now you'll be telling us how you've been saying this for 25 years.
Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water or something like that. If we don’t have a union the city would not have to negotiate a contract. I know it’s not the best contract but there are a lot of safeguards in there that keeps them from just firing coppers at will. Without a contract there would be no process and you’d be gone. You’d have to hire a lawyer and sue in court for everything.
7/14/2018 09:32:00 AM
Ummmm,yeh,Unless you actually switched to a real union with real lawyers negotiating real contracts for you instead of some political hack stooge.I've heard this crap my entire career and can't believe people still buy this.You're probably the same guy who goes to every FOP meeting your entire career and is constantly aggravated but never quite catch on that the game is rigged and not in your favor.The FOP is not there to represent your best interest.
It's not even entirely clear that the fop would have standing to get involved. It's an agreement between the city and some outside entities. As long as it doesn't interfere with the fop contract how is the fop involved?
I am leaving this berg, taking a hit money wise, will enjoy my wide open freedom working for a county in Montana.
Enjoy the mania and instability here.
I'm out.
REPLY:
how come most of these retirees have an actual vote on anything that effect the contract????
IS it easier to bribe someone who does not care about suspension,firings or videos when they are off the job already with a pension?
A BOARD of retirees great idea if you want to have free trips and stipends for FAKE meeting with the board. public meetings sound like they are needed
If you believe that fighting was the way to go, then here are the board members you want to be pissed off at: Dean Angelo, Greg Bella, Bill Burns, Harold Brown, John Caparrelli, Pat Duckhorn, Mike Garza, Dan Gorman, Kevin Graham, Ken Hauser, Jay Ryan, and Ron Shogren. All, except Graham who does not vote, voted to withdraw the FOP motions challenging the consent decree and rely on the agreed to wording to protect our contracts. Graham is included here because he was a proponent of withdrawing the motions.
If you believe that withdrawing the motions was the way to to, then here are the board members you want to be pissed off at: Andrew Cantore, Mark Donahue, Sergio Escobedo, Fernando Flores, Rick King, Pat Murray, Marty Preib, Mark Tamlo, Dan Trevino, Mike Underwood. All voted to keep the motions in place and fight any proposed consent decree.
Board Members Bill Dougherty, Joe Gentile, Jim Jakstavich, Mike Mette, Frank Quinn, and Carlos Salazar were absent from the meeting and were unable to vote.
......and nothing will happen. At most the beat car might take a few days but the k9 officer is so clouted that even BWC won’t do much when it comes to discipline.
7/14/2018 10:58:00 AM
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Are you insane? If what he did is true it was an unlawful action and he won’t have to worry about discipline from CPD, the attorney will sue him will have him investigated by the IG and states attorney’s office and he will be fired for criminal acts. CPD isn’t going to hold his job for him while he’s in jail. The ILETSB will just decertify him, and then he won’t be a cop any more no matter what CPD or his clout think of the matter.
You guys that think clout can save someone in cases like this are delusional. Once that video hits the press, I assure you CPD will not only throw him under the bus, they will drive the bus over him, back up onto his dead career, and then drive forward over it again. He will be the poster child for accountability.
protesters at 3rd district police station shouting at and threatening officers. live stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa0Up9m9SPI&feature=player_embedded
guy on stream said majority of protesters are from a group called BYP100.
SCC and all your followers,
I am a long time reader of your blog and think it is great! I am from our lovely city and now live on the left coast employed by a large jet company with headquarters in our fair city. While I am not an LEO, you certainly have my support!
Let me throw something out to your readers.....sticking in the realm of Unions. The real power of a Union, ANY Union, is the rank and file Sisters and Brothers on the front lines. Whether it is in a squad, on a shop floor, construction site or any workplace, the POWER is in those hands and not the suits who stand in front of the cameras.
Why not simply work to rules? You guys have orders and rules coming out of your ears, a contract, OSHA laws, etc. For example, I would guess you probably have a rule/order/procedure that says check your cars every day. So check your car at the beginning-and check for EVERYTHING. I mean tire pressure, oil level, transmission fluid level, coolant level, radio and computer checks, every light, windshield wiper, Document everything and report it. Check all of your firearms and any less than lethal stuff.
Report every safety and health concern.
Your guys are smart guys....smarter than these merit dippos I see referenced here. Follow every order, directive, regulation to the letter. Communicate with each other about these rules and following them. For example, “there’s been an uptick in squad/motors mechanical failures. Let’s make sure that we all check our vehicles on Xday”.
It’s interesting to watch where I work when some genius (that’s how we would characterize our merit people) comes up with a new directive that effects the rank and file.
Stay strong and put your heads together.....all of you together are a helluva lot smarter than tiny dancer and any of his minions.
Hey Mark, Marty and Billy, nice comment but you forgot to say that two lodge attorneys advised to take the agreement. If you don’t have faith in the attorneys then you need to fire them. You are the executives and you have the ability.
jcat said...
It was a
Criminal Trespass to State Supported Land
JB346816
OFFENDERS: Eddie Johnson
Pfleger
Jesse Sr
Yes it's TRUE because I'm the one who filed it
John Catanzara 008
7/14/2018 07:20:00 PM
That said John had enough of everything you’ve been doing now it’s time for you to resign being a Chicago police officer and take over as president of the fraternal order of police you JOHN everything you’ve done you have shown that you are a standup guy you’re the kind a guy we need is a leader your stand up you don’t sit down can’t I can’t sign my name because I’m a boss but then again John you’ve got extreme testicular fortitude! God bless you JOHN you’re a good man always have been and always will be!
Anonymous said...
A highlight of the meeting came when Graham accused Rick King of not having "any skin in the game" referring that the vote didnt affect him. He fired back: I have a son on the job and a grandson in the academy" "So tell me again how i dont have any skin in the game". Graham was speechless. Lmfao.
Capparelli needs to go.
Bella needs to go.
There was way too much bullshit going on with the moore sister's.
Office runs better without them.
7/14/2018 03:32:00 PM
Rick King: Nice self promotion!
Did you ever find either of the two canine dogs that ran away from you? BEAR is free!!!
It was a
Criminal Trespass to State Supported Land
JB346816
OFFENDERS: Eddie Johnson
Pfleger
Jesse Sr
Yes it's TRUE because I'm the one who filed it
John Catanzara 008
7/14/2018 07:20:00 PM
If that is the case there should be a number generated against Eddie Johnson. Though more than likely no one will sign the Sworn Affidavit, an override should be obtained due to video evidence that he actively broke the law. He should have sustained allegations for Rule #1 (Violation of Any Law of Ordinance), multiple counts of this for not only his breaking of the law but abetting the others involved in the march, Rule #2 (Bringing Discredit Upon the Department), and I don't recall the Rule #'s for politicking while in uniform and Failure to Perform Any Duty (protesters should have been arrested or kept off the expressway).
As a gold star, he either gets a Reprimand or it goes straight to five days off. They don't get one day suspensions.
He cannot use a First Amendment argument to minimize his guilt, due to the fact that while citizens are given the right to assemble peaceably and petition the government, no where does it say or has the Supreme Court explicitly stated that you are allowed to break the law while assembling peaceably.
Would any of you retirees be willing to send an email detailing the allegations to COPA, along with the mention of the Sworn Affidavit override (so they can't just blow it off)? COPA would have to respond with the Log#, which could be FOIAed down the line to ensure that the number wasn't Administratively Closed. COPA takes online complaints now. They can't mess with you but sure could screw with the active members for generating the number!
Too much politics?
From the dictionary:
Politics = Poli as in many and tics as in blood sucking parasites.
Politics.
Catanzara of 008 nice job you have balls of shiny brass and we need that running Flop
And, none of the nonsense or looking the other way occurred while Mike Shields was president,
And that is why I didn't mention him or anything he did while in the big chair.
Hey Mark, Marty and Billy, nice comment but you forgot to say that two lodge attorneys advised to take the agreement. If you don’t have faith in the attorneys then you need to fire them. You are the executives and you have the ability.
7/15/2018 05:06:00 AM
Well guess what dean, We are choosing to fight instead of taking the agreement. When if ever has the state or the city played fair with us? Never? We campaigned that this cant be the "same ole fop". And as long as i am a board member we will fight this bullshit. Do you trust lisa madigan to do right by us? How bout Rham?
Sigman and baum is a complete waste of money ans needs to go. I respect Dalba, but he does not have final say.
7/15/2018 03:49 AM. Is spot on. Pay attention to what he wrote. ♠️
Bob Fioretti needs to go. He cannot be trusted. He hasn’t done legitimate legal work ever.
I too am a boss I agree John Catanzara should take his battle mindset to the Fop as president . I know this department needs a strong Fop in this day and age its vital . As a Lt I see the troops faces and the morale daily and its sickening. John run dont walk to the presidency , its needed .
As a gold star, he either gets a Reprimand or it goes straight to five days off. They don't get one day suspensions.
7/15/2018 10:09:00 AM
The official minimum suspension for an exempt is 7 days, albeit the exempt would only consider 5 of the 7 as working days. Also, the suspension must be taken on a Sunday thru Saturday basis. The employer divides the salaried exempt's yearly money by 365 and that amount is deducted for each of the 7 days. And, an exempt's suspension time can only be administered in 7 day increments, i.e. 7, 14, 21 and so on. To date, I have never heard of any exempt ever actually being suspended. Dumped yes, suspended no.
The Lodge attorneys Joel D'Alba and Pat Fioretto got the carve out language for the consent decree. What that means is no matter what happens in court with the consent decree your contract and all future contracts will not be changed by the court. The vote was to take this language to the Judge and if he signed it we would then withdraw from the consent decree. If the Judge did not sign the carve out language we would proceed in the consent decree intervention. It was a win win. If we got the carve out language your contract and your rights would have been immune from any deal reached by Madigan and the court. If not we continue the intervention in the consent decree. Now that the Board voted to continue the intervention in the consent decree we have no contract protection. We will argue the State Attorney General has no standing in Federal Court and we will probably win. Madigan will re file her lawsuit in State Court where she does have jurisdiction. Now our contract is at the mercy of a State Court Judge. I certainly don't trust any Judge let alone a State Court Judge. I asked one important question at the Board meeting and that was what is the advice of the two lawyers that represent us. They both stated get the carve out language and protect the contract and officers rights. I will repeat, the lawyers advice was to get the carve out language signed by the Judge. Unfortunately we will never know if we could have got the carve out language protection because the Board voted not to give it to the Judge to sign. The Board voted to fight the consent decree rather than protect your rights and contract as well as future, A lawyer whose client does not listen to his advice has a fool for a client. I pray they made the right decision. A decision I don't agree with but the die is cast. The truth is this was all about your rights and your contract, without it you have no protection whatsoever. As for the rest of the cowardly anonymous quotes on this thread.....GO FUCK YOURSELF. You know where I am if you don't like it.
Greg Bella
Recording Secretary FOP
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