Sunday, August 12, 2018

The Vallas Plan (Long Post)

An e-mailer got a response from the Vallas campaign. Here it is in its entirety:
  • HIRING RETIRED DETECTIVES

    Goal - I will rebuild and maintain the Bureau of Detectives strength at a minimum 1,200. I will provide additional support for the Bureau by recalling 400 former CPD Detectives and Officers with Detectives experience. The “Retiree Corp” is intended to SUPPORT, NOT REPLACE CURRENT OR VACANT DETECTIVE POSITIONS. They will provide the critical support needed to get violent offenders off the street. Over the longer term it will be my intent to increase the “active” strength even more to bring Chicago closer to other major cities. Even with a restored force of 1,200 we will have little more than half the Detectives as percentages of overall Officer strength that cities like New York and Los Angeles have.

    Background - Clearance rates on violent crimes, shootings and homicides are at an abysmal all-time low. The Detective rank has shrunk to below where it once was, over burdening detectives who are already struggling with limited resources and larger spans of territory to cover. Judges and prosecutors are demanding more than ever before from law enforcement in criminal cases. Standards for charging a criminal are higher now than ever before.

    Because the Bureau of Detectives has shrunk you have Detectives doing “assembly-line" homicides investigations. Assembly-line homicide investigations occur when you have too many cases and not enough Detectives or support. If there are enough leads that could result in an arrest, Detectives will continue to work the case. If not the Detective will move on to the next case leaving the previous case unsolved. This is the casualty of the lack of Detective manpower and resources. By hiring back retired Detectives or Officers with Detective experience, the current assembly-line homicide investigations can stop.

    The hired back Detectives will provide investigative support in the following areas:

    • Case review and case management
    • Witness follow up
    • Subpoena support
    • Obtaining digital evidence and evidence coordination
    • Transporting of witnesses for interviews or Grand Jury.
    • Aid in interviews and interrogations
    • Social Media investigations

    While there is no substitute on the part of the State’s Attorney’s Office and the Courts for aggressive prosecution and long sentences for violent offenders and gun law violators, it begins with an arrest.

    To qualify for the position, the retiree would have to have left the department in good standing and be free from any Internal Affairs or Cook County State Attorney investigations upon their retirement. Retired Detectives who return to these investigative support positions would be required to undergo continual training to ensure understanding of current department practices and procedures as well as the most up to date state and local laws.

    The are NO obstacles to hiring retired Retired Detectives. Hiring retired Detectives and Officers with Detective experience would be a fast way to provide the Bureau of Detectives with the additional support and experience the need during these challenging times. These are not replacement employees and will not be filling existing vacancies. There are no obstacles to bringing seasoned experienced and accomplished Officers back into fold.

    Facts: Government agencies have been hiring back retired employees for years including CPD. The retirees do not displace existing employees or to fill existing vacant positions but to supplement. Major Police Departments are engaging in hire back programs including Denver, Dallas, New York, even London were the City hired 400 Constables. New York’s public safety surge back in the 90’s included the hiring of over 400 Detectives.

    City rules regarding residency could be waived as the retirees would be part time contract employees.

    Health insurance can easily be extended

    There are no union issues if there is no displacement.

    Remember, these are supplemental positions designed to provide additional support. There are no excuses nor obstacles for taking this common sense approach to quickly enhancing Detective resources. The City’s response to everything seems to be to cancel more days off, pay more overtime and to move more Officers off their beats.
It seems like a good idea, but again, we think it's a pipe dream. Vallas has to win for this to even get a shot.

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87 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are no union issues if there is no displacement. It is still a Union issue you can't have 2 separate lists of detectives plus will the retirees be considered sworn Officers full Police powers?

8/12/2018 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

" These are not replacement employees and will not be filling existing vacancies. "

It doesn't matter. If you read the FOP contract closely you will see it is a violation of the contract. Especially if they are over 63 years old. A violation of the city municipal code.

8/12/2018 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

www.deleterahm.com. GO VALLAS!!

8/12/2018 12:41:00 AM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

Too well thought out...

Too reasonable.

Too cerebral.

Skewing too much toward the common sensical.

The entrenched political and media powers will hate it
because it's pretty tight and impervious to their usual
bullshit, diversion and conflation...

"So what you're REALLY SAYING is..."

GTFOH with that silly stuff.
Vallas' proposal as relayed is a thing
of crystal clarity.

Something that's missing from so much of
the discussion about Policing and Public Safety
in Chicago.

The intellectually lazy will complain
because this proposal isn't "tweet sized."

Whooooo...

Can't WAIT to read the feverish, hair-on-fire
revanchist, butt-hurt rebuttals to this by
Glanton, Jackson, Mitchell, Page, Sneed, Steinberg,
Zekman, Zorn et al...

Oh yeah... You can't discount the sure-to-come
hateful, willfully ignorant and biased
nasty-grams to the editor by the ACLU, #blm,
COPA and "The Community."

Police Like You Have No Friends.

Do everything you can, whether dirty or fair to survive,
stay employed, keep your families fed, sheltered and secure
and to keep these evil peoples & folkses from cooking YOU
and YOURS in the perpetually seething social justice jackpot.

Look.
Point & Laugh.
Leave.

8/12/2018 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I'm voting for Vallas. He's for us, for our pensions and for trying to fix this godawful mess this city's in.

It may be a pipe dream, but it's a hell of a lot better pipe dream than the rest of the others, combined.

8/12/2018 01:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So lets push to get Vallas the job. There is nothing to lose. If Rahm wins then taxes go up more and crime increases. If frog eyes Lightloafers wins the whole city will devolve into a sewer.

8/12/2018 01:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Improvement in the areas can begin almost immediately. Dump all the hack, company-man, supervisors that were NEVER detectives and replace them with supervisors that were detectives for at least five years, with a track record of aggressive and competent investigating. Rewarding supervisors with a position in the detective division, just because, has DESTROYED the quality of investigations in the D.

8/12/2018 02:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any way you slice it, adding bodies to the detective division to perform ANY duties that a detective is currently doing will effect how many people get promoted. Common sense tells me that if the city brings in any retired detectives, the city will end up promoting less detectives than they would if they hired zero retired detectives... Why don’t we start with hiring a retired police officer who is QUALIFIED to be our superintendent ? The Turd we have doesn’t seem to be working out.

8/12/2018 02:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Already talked to two guys who wanna come back. One guy’s a degenerate gambler and the other knocked up a 40 year old at the age of 62, and he’s still paying on two other kids’ college from his 2nd marriage.

8/12/2018 04:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's just electoral jaw jacking and pandering. If he gets elected, it will never happen. Community folks do not support a resurgence of the CPD and true color blind justice.

8/12/2018 05:48:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

Will they be allowed to interrogate using the old phone book and nightstick tactic?

8/12/2018 06:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Uh, they'd have to pass the "Power" test again, right?

8/12/2018 07:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sure take up contracted spots with guys that retired.

NO mention of salary?

NO mention of benefits?

Case management... really

Driving victims around with what? a police vehicle? Do you wear a vest and carry a gun?

How about this:
NO more missing except the real one. Civilian can handle that bundle of weekly missing from teen shelters.

Civilians processing stolen cars IF you dont send ET's for prints we gave that up already . Checking VINs at the area and making sure the stolen cars are in the LEADS system can be done by civilian.

Processing juveniles when was the last time you had a diaper dick actually take a statement from these creepy kids. Paper shuffling can be taught again to a civilian.

Assaults, phone threat,shoplifting, and my favorite posting nude piks of your EX should all be done by the summons officer hidden at each of the courts.


Keep in mind if these RETIRED DETECTIVEs were so great do you honestly think they could not find work in the private sector. (I dont mean standing at the door in WALMART)

8/12/2018 07:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can see retired detectives doing administrative duties answering phones and working case management at a reduced hourly pay so that full duty detectives can be be full duty detectives. If investigations are that complicated then the city should promote detectives. Retired detectives should not be doing field investigations when officers want the chance to be promoted

8/12/2018 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll take Vallas over anyone else. Shocked that anyone would consider voting for McCarthy. Short memories? He helped Rahm get us into this mess.

8/12/2018 07:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Retired ISP here. The State Police has been hiring retirees for years. We have a termination policy at age 60, but it does not apply to retirees returning to work as they are "contractual employees". No benefits such as,vacation or sick time or health insurance.

8/12/2018 07:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will purposely not bite for this fool just because of that statement. The statement alone is ignorance to what is actually going on out here. He s pandering to us just like Rahm panders to certain communities

8/12/2018 07:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Already talked to two guys who wanna come back. One guy’s a degenerate gambler and the other knocked up a 40 year old at the age of 62, and he’s still paying on two other kids’ college from his 2nd marriage.

My probation officer told me to not waste my time applying

8/12/2018 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

I'm voting for Vallas. He's for us, for our pensions and for trying to fix this godawful mess this city's in.

It may be a pipe dream, but it's a hell of a lot better pipe dream than the rest of the others, combined.
8/12/2018 01:01:00 AM

BE REAL CAREFUL! Vallas has friends (retired judges and lawyers) who are singlehandedly responsible for the systematic intentional dismantling of suburban police and fire departments and their pensions and benefits as well! All under the guise of being for the good of the people! Problem is "which?" people? Politicians run to hold power and make money under the false narrative it's for the good of the people, children, etc.....

8/12/2018 07:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stupid idea Vallas. Cops retire because they don’t want to work LE anymore. What’s the difference between this and overtime? Ur just as bad as Emanuel with this idea.

8/12/2018 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Anonymous Anonymous said...
Already talked to two guys who wanna come back. One guy’s a degenerate gambler and the other knocked up a 40 year old at the age of 62, and he’s still paying on two other kids’ college from his 2nd marriage.
8/12/2018 04:11:00 AM
.........

You see what you got to work with Vallas!

8/12/2018 07:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I spoke with 3 retired dicks and they don't want to come back. Lol. All said the same thing: "Why do you think I left CPD and the city?"

8/12/2018 08:01:00 AM  
Blogger stash the polski guy said...

who really has the will to push back at everything stacked up against it here in chicago?

president trump has a better shot at draining the swamp because he has the support of half of the republicans elected in congress.

vallas is a nobody nobody sent. he will be 'reformed' by the real powers that be quickly.

chicago is a corrupt kingdom run by democrats. surrounded by a moat called cook county. republicans will become extinct with the four commissioners left targeted by fatass prickster.

are people that fucking stupid? oh hell yea.

oh well, meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

8/12/2018 08:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He forgot one thing...I doubt many will even want to return. They left for a reason. A ridiculous management system that fouls the investigation system at every step. And will there still be city residency? Many have moved.


And, btw...Things have gotten worse since most of them have retired. NO THANK YOU!

8/12/2018 08:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All this infrastructure and policy to be written and an interview process just to get some clout detectives bought back for their years of cleanup for the Daley’s. How about he just agrees to promote more detectives. Sounds like a short path to something shady. How many experienced detectives would you really have to hire back to show whipper-snappers the ropes. Four a watch for each division. One “case management” guy a watch. If the old timers they hire back have to FTO all the new detectives they’re hiring, because it’s gonna be “so many”, than why wouldn’t the current detectives close to retirement also retire so that they can pull pension and draw a second salary. Could it be that Vallas sees that the 25+ making 25+ overtime are a budget problem? Who would you hire back first? The guys with the most up to date training. Vallas is a Daley guy. Nothing he does isn’t calculated to enrich somebody. It’s sad to say that he is the best choice.

8/12/2018 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's a starting point...

What's gmac got besides another
ass pocket full of "doing more with less?"

What's Rahm got besides ALL that has obviously
NOT worked since he first became mayor?

Vallas, unlike Rahm the irate sissy, has no interest
in deliberately picking a fight with The Police because
his advisers said it would make him look like he's
"tough" and garner "reformer cred" in "taking on those
greedy, lazy, racist, dumb, violent, blue-collar churl" cops
who need to be reformed into submission and made to
take pay and benefit cuts along with a reduction in head
count...

"It makes no sense that we allow those cops to soak up
40% of the municipal budget," Rahm and his advisors say
behind closed doors...

But they had NO PLAN to take on Chicago's
politically weaponized, media savvy, breathtakingly
evil and violent criminal underclass that's deeply
interwoven within it's catered-to constituencies.

Realistically speaking, Rahm had a pretty clear
idea as to whom he was going to align with when
he sashayed across the tarmac when his D.C.
charter jet had it's wheels securely chocked...

No doubt confidently strutting...
Up on the balls of his feet...

"Imma do dis' shit!"
Like a stick-up man closing
on his contentedly unaware
soon-to-be victim.

Those of us who know and study these
creatures like Rahm, Sparkle-Farts,
The Clintons et cetera, tried to warn
YOU...


8/12/2018 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why not just promote 400 more detectives than you already have instead of hiring 400 retirees? This is a stupid idea that’s rife with problems. The real fix here is to promote 800 more detectives which would get us up closer to 2000 and reopen the areas that this mayor and the last idiot superintendent closed. Ultimately though, none of it matters with a State’s Attorney that hates and refuses to cooperate with the police. This whole city and department are a giant shit pile and it’s really starting to look like there’s no recovering from this mess. This is what happens when you buy votes from welfare abusers, criminals, and “progressives” for 50 years.

8/12/2018 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Never happen. Not in this city.

8/12/2018 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you believe prosecutors aren't the problem read this:

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/08/john-boch/a-detailed-look-at-last-weekends-chicago-gang-violence-shooting-victims/

A choice quote:

"

In fact, poring over the fifteen pages of incidents (pasted end to end, that’s over 10 feet of incidents), only 21 of the 78 victims did not have a criminal history. Meanwhile, those with arrest records garnered a total of 813 arrests between them.

Eight hundred thirteen arrests.

At the same time, Cook County’s infamous “catch and release” criminal justice system only managed to gain convictions in 120 of those 813 arrests.

For example, one 23-year-old Black P. Stone gang member who was shot in the gut had 35 arrests and zero convictions. One perforated 66-year-old had 55 arrests!

Another 32-year-old Four Corner Hustlers member, Charles Green, had 62 arrests, but he won’t re-offend. Not after he suffered multiple gunshot wounds that proved fatal. Green’s colorful past included arrests for dope, more dope, armed robbery, and a murder for which Cook County prosecutor Kim Foxx released him without charges."

8/12/2018 09:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great idea but too bad Paul is all for the consent decree. Not getting my vote. No candidate will have his time around.

8/12/2018 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If they help solve one crime with a black offender the first thing out of you know who’s mouth will be “those old time dicks were all racist”. And the end result will be a lawsuit or a march. Let’s face it, we are just spinning our wheels. Spend the money on nice looking emergency vehicles to haul the bodies away. They will like seeing that and It will make them feel better.

8/12/2018 10:39:00 AM  
Blogger Concerned Citizen said...

Just make a CPD Aux Unit like NYPD does. Murder rate was in the 1000s in 1990 NYC. And they still patrolled unarmed. So it can be done in Chicago

8/12/2018 10:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If, legal, from contractual issues, or not, what retiree, in their right mind, would even consider coming back?

8/12/2018 11:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's what the State Attorney Police are supposed to do.

8/12/2018 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Vallas is the best we can hope and expect for the financial future of the City.
The crime issue is solely on Cook County, as any Democrat will likely leave it unchanged.
How’s Vallas on the rule of law and pro-Active policing without IPRO-COPA interference?
What about micro-managing (mangling) the CPD based on communitay revrunt influences?

As for Retired Dets coming back, what can it hurt?
Could use them to handle all that frivolous general assignment caseload bs from privileged Roscoe Village, Lincoln Pk and Gold Coast.
Reliable, experienced and trusted part time supplemental assistant vs. full time house merit dolt?
I think a Retired PO should be filling all those clerical spots at HQ too.

But a dolly is a dolly and there’s no guarantee that any incompetent slugs will return to the field.

I’m checking on the Amtrak and Mega Bus schedules to see if there’s a coach fare available from Myrtle Beach... just in case I get the call. Wow, I can finally think about quitting this mundane pro shop attendant job down here, but I’ll need two weeks notice, that ok?

8/12/2018 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vallas has a long history of not keeping promises. All he is giving up is bs. Further Vallas comes in at 6-9% in four polls, he cannot raise it to the 23-26 level to make it to the runoff. On the other hand McCarthy is a strong second to Rahm in all the polls including Rahms poll. Like McCarthy or not it will likely be him and Emmanual in the runoff. Emmanual will lose. GMAC has stated he will bring back the retiree insurance, reduce merit to 20%, build up the pensions. Again a vote for Vallas is a vote for Emmanual, we have to go with the strongest candidate to beat Rahm. Also since Vallas fucked over Giannoulias, the Greeks are supporting GMAC.

8/12/2018 11:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Already talked to two guys who wanna come back. One guy’s a degenerate gambler and the other knocked up a 40 year old at the age of 62, and he’s still paying on two other kids’ college from his 2nd marriage.


8/12/2018 04:11:00 AM

If I didn’t work for the police department I’d think you were trolling, but I’m sure this is true. If you’re a 62 years old retired guy still screwing around with women young enough to get pregnant, good for you, but may I suggest a vasectomy first?

8/12/2018 11:40:00 AM  
Anonymous KMA1999 said...

I've been retired 19 years but I will return and help the team. I still remember 19 Paul and I believe 10 Xray was a Dog Bite report. I can learn the rest as I go along. Quasi-Criminal complaints were my specialty.

8/12/2018 11:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bad idea...you're done and retired. Move on and let the City hire more Officers who contribute to the pension fund.

8/12/2018 11:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys MUST know this is all bullshit right?

8/12/2018 12:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about just promoting off the list?

8/12/2018 01:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

His intentions might be honorable, but it will never happen. Finding 400 detectives will to do this. No way and they don’t need to be sworn to do the duties listed. Another dream is if you think they will replace the inside people. No way, you will just have a. Additional salaries. Bosses aren’t putting their favorites out on the street
Most detectives retired because they wanted to, not because they had to and when it comes to working conditions most would want to be on days with weekends off. Bosses have those positions filled and will continue to do so. Then there is the pay. They aren’t coming back for short money and the good ones that wanted to retire and enjoy their life with the family won’t be applying

8/12/2018 02:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Already talked to two guys who wanna come back. One guy’s a degenerate gambler and the other knocked up a 40 year old at the age of 62, and he’s still paying on two other kids’ college from his 2nd marriage.


8/12/2018 04:11:00 AM
Sounds the issues of many who are still on the job currently! What is your point?

8/12/2018 02:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
" These are not replacement employees and will not be filling existing vacancies. "

It doesn't matter. If you read the FOP contract closely you will see it is a violation of the contract. Especially if they are over 63 years old. A violation of the city municipal code.

8/12/2018 12:11:00 AM
Contract employees of the city are not covered by the FOP contact so it is no applicable. That is what they are trying to explain here.

8/12/2018 02:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmm, free of "investigations" eh?
Nah, there is no room for chicanery THERE or anything.

The Accusation...it is all about how serious the allegations are....but not whether there is GUILT established proven and adjudicated, uh huh.

Spoken like a true blue democrat controller who aims to use accusation to disqualify those with which they disagree or disapprove of.

Pathetic.

8/12/2018 02:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Any truth to the rumor of a detective class next month?

8/12/2018 04:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You better read that Consent Decree. If the federal judge approves that as written your contract is gone and the city will do what they want to any officer. They will assign any officer to any position. Rham is really sticking in in the cops ear but what he doesn’t realize is that he is pronouncing the city dead.
If he looses he don’t care he got his millions and him and Amy will pack up and leave the shit pit that he created probably with his brother in LA.

8/12/2018 06:30:00 PM  
Blogger Andrew Petersen said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
So lets push to get Vallas the job. There is nothing to lose. If Rahm wins then taxes go up more and crime increases. If frog eyes Lightloafers wins the whole city will devolve into a sewer.

8/12/2018 01:19:00 AM

You guys and gals had that chance last election, and were too scared to vote for Chuey.

Go to all your friends and family and their friends and push them to vote for Vallas. If we don't get rid of Rahm this round, we are stuck with that putz for another term. And before anyone brings up the Springfield push to get Term Limits for Mayors onto the next ballot, we still need to get rid of Rahm fast.

Vallas might be able to turn this city around before it devolves into New Orleans any more than it has in the past 40 years.

8/12/2018 07:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about we hire back a few retired ET's to do all the inside spots as well. Its ridiculous for the commander to have 3 trained ETs as secretaries. Then you have firearms which has more ETs working inside than the 3rd watch has working the street. Let's not forget the photo lab that can't work nights or weekends. All this can be accomplished by retired personnel then maybe just maybe the poor beat cars won't be waiting 3 hours (sometimes more) on a crime scene.

8/12/2018 07:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get him to sign a contract stating this and upon election it becomes inforcable.WE our way better off with him than any of the other nimrods

8/12/2018 07:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know what this means?? Bye bye GMAC. This guy is running on a platform that is 10 times more pro police than you. Good luck Paul.. you got my vote.

8/12/2018 07:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, Didn’t they pass a double dipping law? Pretty sure they did which means your pension gets put on hold while your working another government/city job. Good luck finding anyone who is gonna do that

8/12/2018 07:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about Gary?

8/12/2018 08:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yep, sign me up. I can't wait for another long drive and a shit hole building to work in. Not ............................

8/12/2018 08:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds Great I will file a law suit against the city for breach of Fop contract, discrimination because I’m white, and I’m 401 out..

8/12/2018 09:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does Vallas realize that the "community" is running the shit show now and they do not want more police or detectives stopping them or asking questions while they exist on goverment hand outs and white guilt liberal contributions?

8/12/2018 09:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heard Joe the coffee maker from Area North wants back in and is willing to grind his own beans...

8/12/2018 09:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any truth to the September 17th rumor about a detectives class and Sgt’s class starting?

8/12/2018 10:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If 9.5 doesn't want something, you know the prick is up to no good. Give him the National Guard and watch him turn different shades of purple. Fuck you rahmmie!

8/12/2018 11:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vallas is NOT for the consent decree. He said a lot should of been done under McCarthy and Rahm to avoid this! Not for the consent decree. Says it will cost too much!

8/13/2018 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All it does is help the clouted that were originally given the detective position by hook or crook.

Read it and weep for America.

8/13/2018 01:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why hire back retirees? Promote current POs

8/13/2018 04:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vallas should be focused on hiring any rank of retired CPD to come back part time and work all administrative positions within the department. (non Union, of course) Kick these kids off the desks and put them on the street. There is an astronomical amount of officers with less than 10 years on the job working desk assignments as secretaries. We all know the numbers on paper of desk job positions is bullshit, because these bosses cover these desk dollies on paper with ease. Nobody questions it, because they all do it. Hell, you can have retired cops come back just to put together the stupid binders for the exempt rank's weekly meeting.

8/13/2018 05:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just retired within the year.

There is no way I would return for any reason.

After 30 years. Being pissed on by the City, Department and supervisors.
Let them sink in this cesspool that they created.

In the past 2 years I have witnessed the largest waste of time and money,
Kissing up to neighborhood reverends and mouth pieces.

So why would this plan work?

8/13/2018 06:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More attacks by the Rahm bearded, douchebag, bike riding hipsters from new York that he has brought in as part of his multi million dollar taxpayer financed spin machine. I can’t wait till they all lose their jobs when 9.5 is out. Vallas is our last and only hope to save this city. If Rahm is re-elected, the crime will skyrocket as Rahm tries to kiss ass to the progressives, BLM, unions and the rest of the scum to have a place on the national stage.

8/13/2018 07:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We had presented a program to hire retired Dets 15 years ago. The city had removed almost all of the civilians from the Areas and it became necessary to use Detectives to do filing and other office tasks. A proposal to hire retired Dets, four hours a day no more than twenty hours a week, to do clerical and summary work. No benefits. The program was rejected after the union refused to endorse it.

8/13/2018 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


BE REAL CAREFUL! Vallas has friends (retired judges and lawyers) who are singlehandedly responsible for the systematic intentional dismantling of suburban police and fire departments and their pensions and benefits as well! All under the guise of being for the good of the people! Problem is "which?" people? Politicians run to hold power and make money under the false narrative it's for the good of the people, children, etc.....

8/12/2018 07:53:00 AM

I’m not calling BullShit, but prove it! Any examples? Names, initials, when it happened, to who, what suburbs? I’m not a campaigner for Vallas or anyone else. Just like to hear some facts!

8/13/2018 08:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Heard Joe the coffee maker from Area North wants back in and is willing to grind his own beans...

8/12/2018 09:42:00 PM

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And I promise I'll no longer steal quarters from the styrofoam cup.

8/13/2018 08:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
SCC, Didn’t they pass a double dipping law? Pretty sure they did which means your pension gets put on hold while your working another government/city job. Good luck finding anyone who is gonna do that

8/12/2018 07:42:00 PM

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I know engineers who retired from CPS. He was in the Municipal WOrkers or Laborers union, not CPS union. He was hired back for the exact same job after they went private. He now works for Aramark, gets paid and collects his pension.

So the detectives would have to privatize - and that ain't gonna happen.

8/13/2018 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
How about we hire back a few retired ET's to do all the inside spots as well. Its ridiculous for the commander to have 3 trained ETs as secretaries. Then you have firearms which has more ETs working inside than the 3rd watch has working the street. Let's not forget the photo lab that can't work nights or weekends. All this can be accomplished by retired personnel then maybe just maybe the poor beat cars won't be waiting 3 hours (sometimes more) on a crime scene.

8/12/2018 07:11:00 PM

Are the inside ET's female? They need a trained ET to answer phones, file paperwork. That is the commander job but commanders do not work hence the inside workers. What other city agency has such ridiculous rules that allow trained personnel to stay inside instead of performing the duties they are trained for on the street?

8/13/2018 09:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It’s part time civilian work! Read it! Please stop with the fop stuff! They are all for this!

8/13/2018 10:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Vallas has a long history of not keeping promises. All he is giving up is bs. Further Vallas comes in at 6-9% in four polls, he cannot raise it to the 23-26 level to make it to the runoff. On the other hand McCarthy is a strong second to Rahm in all the polls including Rahms poll. Like McCarthy or not it will likely be him and Emmanual in the runoff. Emmanual will lose. GMAC has stated he will bring back the retiree insurance, reduce merit to 20%, build up the pensions. Again a vote for Vallas is a vote for Emmanual, we have to go with the strongest candidate to beat Rahm. Also since Vallas fucked over Giannoulias, the Greeks are supporting GMAC.


Hey Mcstreetlight! Tell your people to stay off the blog! Vallas is second! And he is the ONLY one to beat Rahm. A vote for Mcstreetlight IS a vote for Rahm! And the Greeks are behaving nd Vallas! They don’t like Obama and thus not corrupt Giannoulias!

8/13/2018 10:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know if anyone remembers this but about 15 years ago this idea was being talked about. I know of one exempt who actually was assigned to put this together. Almost all of the ideas posted were the same as purposed. The plan was to have these retired detectives work in all the area's assisting the detectives with non street duties along with reviewing the investigations and suggesting ideas on how to solve incidents. The retired detectives would work 20 hrs a week with a maximum of 28 hrs a week. They were going to be split evenly between the 2nd and 3rd Watches. At the time there was a Chief of Detectives, an administrative deputy, and two deputies one for the north side and one from the south side. Each had a sergeant and a detective working for them. But a problem arose: Each of these exempts wanted two of these retires to work for them. A huge argument ensued and the Dept Superintendent of Investigative Services shut down the plan. It appears that Vallis got this idea from this retired exempt.

8/13/2018 10:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I missed the part where he said how he will pay for all of this. Chicago is basically bankrupt. Will he be cutting expenses elsewhere or raising new taxes?

It would be cheaper to require every Chicago resident to carry a firearm at all times. The first few weeks may be a little messy, but it would be peace city after that.

8/13/2018 10:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Really??? Who would want to come back to this Sh%#Show...? May be some of them could look for missing files in Dean Andrews Old office...Seriously, this will never happen. But I remember a VC Detective I knew when I got to the Area who said that he couldn't have lunch with me because I was Temporarily assigned in SVU, and that VC doesn't have lunch with other units. I never spoke to him again...


I would never return...

8/13/2018 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How much are the going to pay retirees... $20 per hour. Will take jobs away from the young guys who may wish to get promoted. Divide and conquer.

8/13/2018 11:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Return to this shit hole after retirement ? What are you smoking ??????

8/13/2018 04:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
How much are the going to pay retirees... $20 per hour. Will take jobs away from the young guys who may wish to get promoted. Divide and conquer.

8/13/2018 11:58:

Wake up it’s all campaign bs remember a few years back Weiss replaced all the watch secretaries(who never left) and have the sgts and Lts do the watch work like they did years ago and Rahm was going to replace inside spots with civilians. Never happened never will and currently there are more inside spots that when Rahm said he was going to replace them. Bosses have their pets and ignore the mayor who has no oversight

8/13/2018 04:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Rahm and Garry morons, get off of the blog. Vallas actually grew up here. He already has a good relationship with the community from his days with CPS, so he doesn’t have to kiss their asses. He also does not support the Consent Decree. He also comes from a police family. He also has pride in this city and won’t be around forever. If you vote for Garry, you are giving your vote to Rahm. He, like Lotifoot are in cahoots with the midget. What do all of them have in common? None was raised in Chicago.

If you have pride in your city, you will stop believing the nonsense that is spewed on this blog. Between 52nd and Newland robbery guy, the guy who demands that you vote republican (even though you live in Chicago) and all of the other morons who have little beefs about this guy or that girl like this is goddamn high school, enough! This will not violate any work rules. It’s an idea. It’s better than we have heard over the last 7 fucking years.

After the primary, whoever faces Rahm in the runoff, unless it’s Jamal Green, you have to support them. We can remove them if they don’t work out. End of discussion.

Fuck yourself Rahm!

8/13/2018 06:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop the Rahm ass kissing trolls from attacking every statement made by Vallas or gmac. GMAC is s Rahm plant. His finance person Lori Montana works with Rahm people, RINO former Edgar press secretary, associates of deadbeat dad Chance the Rapper, and Maryann Childers, wife of the ultimate Rahm ass licker Jay Levine. Do the math and figure it out. A vote for GMAC is a vote for Rahm.

8/13/2018 06:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vallas for Mayor

8/13/2018 07:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes on the phone, no on the nightstick.

8/13/2018 09:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop the Rahm ass kissing trolls from attacking every statement made by Vallas or gmac. GMAC is s Rahm plant. His finance person Lori Montana works with Rahm people, RINO former Edgar press secretary, associates of deadbeat dad Chance the Rapper, and Maryann Childers, wife of the ultimate Rahm ass licker Jay Levine. Do the math and figure it out. A vote for GMAC is a vote for Rahm.

8/13/2018 06:55:00 PM

So, if GMAC wins he will abdicate and 9.5 will be appointed as Mayor? Those under-handed devils! Those sneaks! Only in Chicago. I am glad you were on the case.

8/14/2018 12:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about Gary?

8/12/2018 08:13:00 PM

Indiana? It's a fucking shithole.

8/14/2018 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BE REAL CAREFUL! Vallas has friends (retired judges and lawyers) who are singlehandedly responsible for the systematic intentional dismantling of suburban police and fire departments and their pensions and benefits as well! All under the guise of being for the good of the people! Problem is "which?" people? Politicians run to hold power and make money under the false narrative it's for the good of the people, children, etc.....

8/12/2018 07:53:00 AM

I’m not calling BullShit, but prove it! Any examples? Names, initials, when it happened, to who, what suburbs? I’m not a campaigner for Vallas or anyone else. Just like to hear some facts!

8/13/2018 08:30:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not taking sides but in the paper Vallas is against issuing city bonds to pay for the pensions. Would rather have a large property tax hike which comes at a terrible time considering the ridiculously huge property reassessments we just received. Also the bonds would not be at the prior 7-7 1/2% that were previously issued. Article says Vallas said it’s like mortgaging the city, city halls response was yes but it’s like taking a home equity loan at a lower rate or refinancing at a lower rate
Better than a large property tax hike on top of the reassessment

8/15/2018 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why don’t we look at the clearance rates of these retired guys? Yeah , that’s what I thought. Nothing to see here, movealong.

8/16/2018 05:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why don’t we look at the clearance rates of these retired guys? Yeah , that’s what I thought. Nothing to see here, movealong.

Right, are you speaking of the Burge crew who ran when ERI came about? No more White Castle and cigarettes in exchange for confessions. This have to be done the right way. Lol

8/16/2018 05:53:00 PM  

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