Another?
Stop killing yourselves.
Please.
The damage left behind - family, friends, co-workers - is incalculable.
Don't do it.
Please.
The damage left behind - family, friends, co-workers - is incalculable.
Don't do it.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
123 Comments:
RIP
It doesn't end the pain, it merely transfers it to the friends and loved ones. GET HELP-PLEASE!
Another suicide? One of our own?
Guys.. see a psychologist for god sakes... I have been seeing one since 2010... I am married, happy... my arrests are null... in other words... a number that does not exist: other offices say my arrest numbers are shit. Enough with the jokes guys— keep on smiling, see you soon.
God Bless & Rest
The Departed.
Don't give Rahm the satisfaction...
Please seek out someone to talk to.
Please be ready to lend an ear also...
Don't let The Machine win.
It will at times demoralize you, anger you, be a blatant
slap in the face as incompetent Merits and/or Clouters
advance in the System. But always remember this:
outside the CPD they are nothing. They are worthless.
Their skills can't be transferred.
The Machine may shortchange you, take away your
dignity and ambition, and turn your mind as black as
a coal mine. But don't let The Machine take your life.
What happened!?!?
Where is the mental health outreach?
I don't know what causes a PO to go through this. As a personal side note years ago even after being indicted and in the news media the thought of ending it all never crossed my mind. Yes there was depression and stress but having family and friends helped get me through that difficult journey.
Ill never forget the night in 2001 when an on duty PO took his life in 025. I saw him in roll call and we exchanged pleasantries but nothing to signal what was going to happen later in the tour, it was a tragic night..
Wow what happen to the program the city started? Pretty soon we as Chicago police won’t be insurable.The cost will be to astronomical to do this job. The call is for help is falling on deaf ears.
WTF!!!!
We need other think of another way, what we are doing now is clearly not working. We need maybe a different outlook on CPD. Maybe more supportive of each other.
Wtf
Their skills can't be transferred.
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Um, what skills?
RIP.
As long as the political entities and shitizens of this city keep vilifying the police, promote incompetents through a 'merit' system of corruption, and reach back into the distant past to second guess every decision made in the face of fast moving situations police are called upon to solve, how can one find peace, support, and an appreciation for the men and women who put it all on the line 24/7. RIP
You don’t understand the mind of the potential suicide. Rational choices become altered, the pain is overwhelming. It’s nowhere good enough to just say, “Get some help.”
Many years ago marriage on the rocks,was involved in a federal investigation high level FBI United States attorney level. Looking at me,rushed to hospital via CFD had 2 “mini strokes” scary times what did I turn to? The Bible, had questions answered by pastor, everyday read at least a passage, it remains open on my dresser to remind me of the purpose and what life means. Bible is summed up in 4 words “he died for me.”
To add to misery at 27 years old 1 year on the job had incident massive internal bleeding rushed to hospital “coded out” masssive amounts of blood and plasma woke up days later,had major surgery doing ok after career on CPD retired now, bottom line believe in yourself, believe in your family, believe in God, read the Bible the best selling book in history, you have a purpose, your priority is making sure the “quarterback” of the team stays healthy, if the quarterback of the team (you), catches a cold the team will suffer immensely. Treat your body like a temple, watch what you put into it, take care of it exercise to clear bad thoughts, love your family, we all have tough times and deal with it. Let’s get back to the Bible, since Jesus a perfect person died on that cross so we can live,do you think that going through life you will not have troubles,and stumble? You will get on your knees and pray, open that bible, talk to a pastor, think about the people you leave behind please I beg you! God bless the police And Godspeed brother!
job sucks, turned to shit. get help and dont let it eat u alive
This clearly rests on the feet of upper management. They made it where works feel they have no options. This job sucks! Ed is clueless! Rahm is a jerk!
I just want to retire. I hate my job!
I saw the cars escorting the ambulance to the morgue. I knew something happened. They were on I55, I thought wow that’s strange an Ambulance with a bunch of marked and unmarked squad cars. Either someone is hurt or dead and I knew it was one of us! With a heavy Hart my prayers go to all his friends and family. When is Ed going to realize Officers feel like they have no options.
My prayers are with the family and for ALL CPD.
May God have mercy on their soul and peace to their heart. Be safe
He was getting help from the department. Supervisors, co-workers and friends did all they could. Sometimes you are too determined to listen to anyone.
Gonna miss you,Godspeed brother, we’ll take it from here.
Not trying to stick up for the department..since I am one of the last to do that. Nor am I an expert on suicide or mental health. But having known several who have committed suicide, I know some suffer in silence and display no signs of depression/suicidal behavior or changes in behavior that would indicate suicidal tendencies. What's the answer to these situations? I don't know. I know everyone is open to suggestions since the department only has EAP. EAP as good as they are, is understaffed and not everyone wants to use them.
Sad beyond words.
17 friends and acquaintances in a 36 year career, very sad
A lot of negative stuff going on lately around here. If you see someone in distress reach out and help them. Just a simple hello or a pat on the back can make someone feel better.
Has it sunk in yet ? This department, politicians, and society don’t care about you. Wake up boys and girls and smell the coffee .
Who are our allies in this city? The press, politicians, citizens, all tell you what a piece of shit you are just for wearing a uniform. Eventually it gets to you. We are supposed to be the good guys. Too many people believing the BS and trying to turn the tables around.
Picking up on comments from 01:42. I also remember that incident in 025, along the train tracks on 235 beat. Don't forget that approximately 11 hours after the the first incident there was a 2nd incident involving a retired officer also from 025 and aapproximately 3 weeks later it was a PPO also from 025.
God damn it. This city doesn’t care about us one bit. They take and take. We need to demand change to improve this job. Also, remember that state law changed. Foid card no longer required to do your job. Don’t let fear of losing your job prevent you from seeking help.
Anonymous said...
Ill never forget the night in 2001 when an on duty PO took his life in 025. I saw him in roll call and we exchanged pleasantries but nothing to signal what was going to happen later in the tour, it was a tragic night..
10/29/2018 01:42:00 AM
Yes. I remember that night. What was so odd was that the officer was acting normal and did not show any sort of body language that he would kill himself just a few hours later.
I also knew two officers who committed suicide. Both were acting normal. But of course underneath it all was a whole lot of issues.
God bless and may you find eternal peace in heaven.
Old Timers in 020 Said Kid it’s just another city job, close enough for government work.
TRR now replaces the officer battery report. Number manipulation at its finest.
It cannot be said enough. Talk to someone qualified. Do not fear the non-existent retribution you are imagining will happen if you seek help. You are by nature a care taker, but you cannot take care of anyone else (your family, your brothers, the innocents) unless you take care of yourself. Please. I want to be praying for your healing today instead of praying for your family's grief at the loss of your life.
please keep the four pittsburg police officer who were shot Saturday in pittsburg there were over 100 persons in the Synagogue at the time and these officers risked rtheir lives and saved many it could had been a lot worse
my prayers are with the pittsburg police dept
a friend cpd 016
RIP Detective. You will be missed.
It’s truly sad. Far too many. Life can have it’s ups and downs but in time the downs come up. Being a police officer is not easy and the way the police have been treated by politicians, media and their departments surely isn’t helping. Financial burdens can weigh heavy and time and time again cops come to work for many years without a single pay raise. The city depends on the police but they are always put on the far back burner when it comes time for contract talks. RIP
RIP...Prayers for family and fellow officers. Heartbreaking.
To those who characterize this as letting rahm win etc, STOP IT.
I've been retired 8 years and had 33 years on and in those years on we lost several Officers long before rahm or political correctness arrived. I have lost the man, former partner and the individual who was most responsible for me meeting my wife of 32 good years and successful family. I have on my dresser a picture of he and I at his retirement party, memories of our double dates, his daughter babysitting our first born, our shared interest in cars and motorcycles, but nothing could have told me he would take his life after retiring. One of my sons lost his girlfriend of 4 years in a horrible ending.
We think we know people, we think they are frank with us about our friendships, but there is an inner pain that they carry, they lock into themselves which most often never is revealed until they take their life
As much as we think we know people we don't. I knew this latest victim when he came to our unit full of energy with a big smile and no idea of what would befall him.
Be a good listener, be nosy if someone has job problems or problems with not going home after work. We are our brother officers keeper, knowing each other may save a life.
Permanent answer to a temporary problem! The insurmountable pain during a divorce, will go away! Look at all your peers who went through the same thing! Thinking their world is falling apart, and a few years later, happier than ever!
As the wife of an officer who was killed in the line of duty I know this is a different circumstance but please I implore you to not leave your loved ones behind for any reason. Our lives are changed forever and all we want is our loved one back. Think before you take such action and remember you are loved and cared about by others who will grapple with the void left by your passing. You cannot be replaced!
Back in 1998 my team member died in front of me. Wished I was in court or even in the station on an arrest. That day on Cottage Grove haunted my dreams for a long time. Didn’t wanna leave the house other then going to work and that was a chore. I’d be on a detail or in a restaurant with my wife and all I saw was my dead fellow officers/ friend. Didn’t wanna seek help because I thought it was a sign of weakness. I remember coming home a year later after working the southside Irish parade. I talked to my wife and told her what was going on in my head. The next day she had me at my family doctor. My doctor told me I had PTSD. Wrote me a prescription and set me up with a shrink. Telling my wife what was going on was the best decision I ever made. Telling someone saved my life. I was worried about random drug tests and I found out the Department doesn’t test for those medications.
Sorry for the long comment. Seek help!!!! Telling someone is a sign of strength not weakness. I chose LIFE!!
The pressure the department places on u is incredible! Every scene can be scrutinized to the point of u doing “something wrong according to the aclu and the police board”. Even if u did everything 100% correct you still worry and the pressure is still great! Shame on what this department has become. Blood is on their hands! Politics have caused this! Tragic. Rest In Peace.
RIP Detective
To any brother or sister thinking of the unthinkable.
Over 20 years ago I was going to take that final step into the dark abyss.
I had the tv on at high volume so as to muffle the shot.
Something happened, I can't explain to well.
But the room grew darker, or so it seemed, and the tv volume was barely audible.
I just sat there with my eyes closed, how long, I don't know.
The moment passed.
To this day I don't know what had just happened, it just did, and I was still alive.
That's all I can offer.
Hope it helps someone.
Anonymous said...
Where is the mental health outreach?
10/29/2018 12:51:00 AM
Comes too late. Most people who commit suicide don’t share their thoughts and intentions with friends , co workers or professionals
I wish to God there was some way I could help. My uncle was CPD, brother was an officer in an outside department, I was a dispatcher. I understand what the job can do to a person. Not having support at home doesn’t help. If there was just a way to help one officer, I would be happy. But because I’m not an officer myself, I wouldn’t be trusted, even though officers I worked with trusted me to talk to. There has to be a better solution. Praying to St Michael for all of you, that you make it home every day to your families, and find the strength to get the help if you need it. You are worth it, and you matter.
A person in that mindset has tunnel vision and is running through the escalation of force checklist....on themselves.
Similar to the pre-suicide signs of giving away their possessions, etc...
About the only thing others can do is 'break their tunnel' that is snap them out of it with some human connection. Near suicides and those who've seriously come close have talked about this...some human or decent connection from another person suddenly snaps them out of it. One guy mentioned someone asking about his kids and *POP* the spell was broken.
We've all seen people who weren't themselves act out. These people are acting inwards.
You have to hope and pray your the one standing there to make the human connection and they snap out of it. If someone is acting funny make the human connection even if you're an asshole. The point is to snap them out of their fugue back to sanity.
Then maybe they get help.
If you've watched someone dying of natural causes part of what they do is begin to silently say goodbye to the world and their loved ones. The suicide is saying goodbye unnaturally.
Break their tunnel. Hope God puts you there at the right time.
First of all, thank you to all of the men and women of the CPD. These are difficult times for many reasons. Please know you are valued for your service and sacrifice and also valued as friends, neighbors and family members. You don't have to suffer alone or in silence. know that you have ample insurance benefits, which will cover the cost of mental health assessment and counseling. Your benefits are also available for your spouses and children. There is usually a very affordable co-pay comparable to what you would pay at your physicians office. You can seek outpatient counseling right in your neighborhood. There are licensed, professional psychologists, therapists and social workers who can provide these serivces. Sometimes beginning with your primary care physician is a good way to access services and or get a referral.Intervention, counseling is confidential, HIPPA laws apply. Your personal information, reported symptoms, diagnosis and or medications prescribed are NOT public record nor the business of the Chicago Police Department,this information is protected. There is no SHAME in getting the healthcare services that you need, everyone needs some help at some point just to get back to optimal functioning.
I lost a friend this way two years ago. Apparently he thought of himself as a failure who had disappointed many people. Circumstances were closing in and he saw no way out. Kept it mostly bottled up. He shared glimpses with many people but none of them could put the pieces together to see the bigger picture and realize the danger. It wasn't their fault.
Please. You need to recognize this in yourself and then you gotta talk with someone, be it a friend or a professional. It's not a weakness. It's the times in which we live.
To be a bit graphic, some years ago I shit a bunch of blood. I really wanted to believe it was just temporary and would eventually fix itself. After all, I was only 40 and healthy. I could lick anything, right? But deep down I knew something was seriously wrong. Fortunately I went to a doc who found colon cancer.
Point being, do something before the darkness sneaks up on you. Because by then it's too late.
Cover yourself in prayer ask that the lord may guide you every day no matter how happy or sad you may be. We can not do this alone. Seek him and he will guide you. BELIEVE THIS!!!
This is getting way out of control. This department and all of its members need to look out for eachother before something bad happens. We tend to give our condolences during the aftermath when it’s sort too late. It’s not just the officers responsibility to get help but everyone’s duty to approach this officer and let them know they are not alone and others care for them. I’ve been on for over 15 years on and worked in various districts and units. I’ve seen ugly behavior by management and fellow officers. We must but our differences aside and take care of eachother. Sometimes the problem is not work related but we need to be mindful of what’s occurring and stand by each other’s side.
Top subject breaking news:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-police-suicide-20181029-story.html
Off-duty Chicago detective dies of suicide, fourth case in nearly four months
1 a month please seek help,look out for each other! RIP Brother another gone to soon!
Officers feel trapped. There use to be a subsidized insurance after retiring with 20 plus years and 50 years old. Now these individuals have to stick around to 55 with the Hope's of any insurance. This makes 5 more years on a job that most of us hate. Some can't see light at end of tunnel. They feel trapped, and take their lives. It's the city that is to blame for continuing to place obstacles in the way of our retirement. The union is no help.
Officers feel trapped. There use to be a subsidized insurance after retiring with 20 plus years and 50 years old. Now these individuals have to stick around to 55 with the Hope's of any insurance. This makes 5 more years on a job that most of us hate. Some can't see light at end of tunnel. They feel trapped, and take their lives. It's the city that is to blame for continuing to place obstacles in the way of our retirement. The union is no help.
It's not normal to become accustomed to taking large amounts of BS from inside and outside the department.
No human was meant to endure the kind of stress a cop deals with.
We don't talk about things. We bottle things up inside us.
We need more positivity from our department, coworkers. We deserve to be treated better.
I recall a PO in 025 years ago who came upon his wife in bed with another guy. The stress of that incident was alot on the PO and he had the courage to go into the WCs office and tell him just that. The Lt took the POs weapon and put him on the medical and got him the help he needed.
This dept is only concerned about friends and family getting promoted in devious ways or moving an ill- equipped Cmdr to a spur -of -the moment made up Cmdr position instead of knocking them down to a Lt like it should be done. Always room in the budget for the friends and family, right Ed ? What’s the budget for EAP? Why isn’t that getting priority ?
Spare us the crocodile tears. Bottom line, they don’t give a $hit. Exactly how many mental health care workers are at the EAP ? EAP services are for all sworn and retired and their immediate family members who are in need of assistance. How many are there ? 4 or 5 ?...
The department is truly negligent in assuring there is enough staff to handle to demand. Shame on them
How many more will be taking their own lives ? In the meantime, get those ISRs in, the quota is down and you don’t want that to reflect on your performance evaluation. . And don’t forget to make that phone call for the merit promotion.
RIP officer.
This is 4 suicides from CPD that we know about. I am concerned how many more are unaccounted for? Blue HELP is recording the suicides across the country. We need all the numbers, not just the ones that slip out. How many CPD suicides were there last year 16, 17? These were never recorded officially. https://wearebluehelp.org/ https://wearebluehelp.org/record-a-suicide/ It's confidential to record a suicide. Let's shed light on the epidemic affecting our brothers and sisters. There have been 129 suicides across the country in LE.
And think twice about EAP. Our insurance covers counseling and other assistances. Unless you want a fellow copper without any training sitting you down and talking to you possible talking to others. I just say that knowing that a very mean racist male supervisor is a part of it. Many complaints but hey he's EAP!! LOL see? I laughed! It's all a joke. It's not that serious. Live it up guys! God bless those of you who walk that line everyday and hold your heads head. Thank you. To the rest of you, there is a special place in hell for you and yes karma is a biaaaaaatch!!!
10/29/2018 02:24:00 PM
Who is this supervisor that you speak of? In the EAP there are no supervisors, only the director who is a doctor. All the counselors at the EAP as far as I know are P/Os.
Rest In Peace friend, I was your acting FTO in 005. God bless.
Please don’t extend energy on this job when it comes to excelling in performance. Many people can’t help but do their best and work hard for the company, because that’s the work ethic they hold. Believe me “the company — CPD” does not care. Most supervisors could care less unless for your welfare unless you’re “connected”. You have recruits actually afraid to place ammo in their weapon or just stand by when a veteran officer is trying to effect an arrest with a combative offender.
The previous thread is absolutely right. It’s you and your family. That doesn’t mean to be a total jerk, but show up on time, be kind to your fellow officers, polite to the public and answer your radio calls & go home when the shift is over. Forget the chases and write reports only. Don’t go crazy lights and sirens unless a P.O. needs help. Unfortunately real and true victims can be collateral damage, yet many “victims” don’t want to cooperate with the investigation anyway and forget witnesses, nobody saw nothin.
Don’t get caught up with being a Chicago cop... it’s not worth it.
RIP detective
I remember about 10 years ago I was having a very very difficult time at work. I was a bit lost and what I was going through upset me to my core. I was on a job doing a report for an older female. I handed her the VIN and we were done but she stayed there silent and staring at me which was strange. Then she reached into her pocket and said, "I want to give you this. It's my rosary. You need it. You're going through a dark time. Pray and I'll pray for you. God bless you." It freaked me out as I did not let on that I was having a tough time, but I believe God sent her as he knew what I was thinking. I held on to that rosary and when I got into my car that night after the tour, I sobbed on the way home. That rosary still hangs on my bedroom mirror.
Don't let The Machine win.
It will at times demoralize you, anger you, be a blatant
slap in the face as incompetent Merits and/or Clouters
advance in the System. But always remember this:
outside the CPD they are nothing. They are worthless.
Their skills can't be transferred.
The Machine may shortchange you, take away your
dignity and ambition, and turn your mind as black as
a coal mine. But don't let The Machine take your life.
10/29/2018 12:24:00 AM
Amen. Probably the best thing I’ve ever read on this blog. Brilliant.
I'm not a police officer, but I have a number of family on the department and I live in the neighborhood where this took place. I just want to say to you guys, when you get beyond the opportunists either on the force or screaming in the media, there are still people out there that look up to you guys. There's still kids growing up who want to become police officers, there's still people who feel more secure in their homes when they see a patrol drive past their house. They probably aren't as loud and ignorant as the critics, but we are out here, and we need to do a better job of speaking out too. God bless, stay safe, and know you're never alone.
RIP, I hope someone on here that may be in the same path will please take some time and talk with someone. About anything, just please give life a second chance and let’s work together.
Thank you SCC
I too remember the P.O. from 025 back in 2001. I was 3 years into my career and it was my first one. My most memorable memories to this day were seeing such a young man inside a casket and seeing normal family pictures of him at the wake with his kids happily inside a swimming pool. It hurt then to think how much life he was going to miss, and hurts to this day to think how much life he missed. I can't help to think that whatever was bothering him back then would surely be over today. RIP detective and may God bless your family.
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/local/off-duty-cpd-detective-found-dead-of-suicide-at-garfield-ridge-home
Thank You all for being the Police!
I know you don’t hear it enough.
Most citizens appreciate you, even though at times it does not seem that way.
There are options for help that are totally anonymous.
Both are by phone, which is a good place to start.
1-800-273-8255 National suicide prevention hotline ( Free Service)
1-800-267-2267 Cop to Cop telephone hotline ( Also free!)
It's actually 10 within the last 3 years if you include ppo's. All of them are relationship issues. But the stresses of the job doesn't help.
I know when many of you say "seek help" you are not only referring to this tragedy but other future people who think this is their only option. This man did seek help from EAP and he seemed to be moving along and coping with his issues. Unfortunately something made him believe there was no alternative. We had a great time back in the day on the 3rd watch 4th Dist. rest in peace Stan.
Anonymous said...
And think twice about EAP. Our insurance covers counseling and other assistances. Unless you want a fellow copper without any training sitting you down and talking to you possible talking to others. I just say that knowing that a very mean racist male supervisor is a part of it. Many complaints but hey he's EAP!! LOL see? I laughed! It's all a joke. It's not that serious. Live it up guys! God bless those of you who walk that line everyday and hold your heads head. Thank you. To the rest of you, there is a special place in hell for you and yes karma is a biaaaaaatch!!!
10/29/2018 02:24:00 PM
Who is this supervisor that you speak of? In the EAP there are no supervisors, only the director who is a doctor. All the counselors at the EAP as far as I know are P/Os.
10/29/2018 04:56:00 PM
Well guess you know little. Call down and ask for yourself.
Anonymous said...
Please don’t extend energy on this job when it comes to excelling in performance. Many people can’t help but do their best and work hard for the company, because that’s the work ethic they hold. Believe me “the company — CPD” does not care. Most supervisors could care less unless for your welfare unless you’re “connected”. You have recruits actually afraid to place ammo in their weapon or just stand by when a veteran officer is trying to effect an arrest with a combative offender.
The previous thread is absolutely right. It’s you and your family. That doesn’t mean to be a total jerk, but show up on time, be kind to your fellow officers, polite to the public and answer your radio calls & go home when the shift is over. Forget the chases and write reports only. Don’t go crazy lights and sirens unless a P.O. needs help. Unfortunately real and true victims can be collateral damage, yet many “victims” don’t want to cooperate with the investigation anyway and forget witnesses, nobody saw nothin.
Don’t get caught up with being a Chicago cop... it’s not worth it.
RIP detective
10/29/2018 06:01:00 PM
Sad but true.
RIP Detective! I concur if you are suffering and in emotional pain please get help. EAP is understaffed and can’t clinically address all of the many issues officers face. However, HIPPA protects you when receiving mental health treatment from any professional and as said by another author, if medication is prescribed the department does not screen for anti-depressants. Also, as enjoyable as having an alcoholic drink may be, it too can be debilitating especially when under tremendous stress and when already struggling with anxiety, depression, or PTSD. Alcohol effects the prefrontal cortex-where our decisions are made in the brain telling us whether we should take action or not.. The prefrontal cortex, when damaged by excessive alcohol, causes impulsive behavior and lack of control. When it is damaged or impaired by alcohol the healthy activity decreases leading to drastic behavior change including a disruption in the balance of thoughts and feelings (emotion). All of this is a recipe for danger or disaster. Alcohol is a depressant and in many cases only a bandaid for the larger underlying issues. Have at the negative comments, but alcohol abuse combined with all the other co-existing negative factors is a problem too!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You don’t understand the mind of the potential suicide. Rational choices become altered, the pain is overwhelming. It’s nowhere good enough to just say, “Get some help.”
10/29/2018 06:17:00 AM
You are so right. People can snap, and it can happen to anyone. Things like divorce, with a particularly nasty partner, child custody issues, financial issues or illness, can add mountains to the mix. And there are some that go through the deep depression and suicidal thoughts and when they try to tell people that are suppose to be friends or close family, they back away and leave you alone with it, or placate you with inane trite bs lines like "hang in there" or get some "professional help" and then don't call ya anymore. And you find out most people don't want to hear how you feel or try to understand. It makes one more cynical and deepens the depression. Even family can be that way, if you have any. And some people aren't blessed with a good marriage and wonderful kids and a close family. How many times have you heard people say they couldn't have made it through some terrible illness or other trials without the support of their family? While there are rare exceptions, most all the shrinks and psychologists have no idea what their patients go through. They go into it for the money, they have not been down that dark road themselves. They pass out meds, a chimp throwing a dart at a board full of med choices could do as well. If you have trouble while on the pills, they say, well stay on them. Of course they are not suffering the side effects. And they hate patients that are educated with regard to meds or have read a great deal. It lessens their God like image. They sit and nod their head as they think about what's for dinner, their golf game, the fight with the wife and their bratty entitled kids. Might as well talk to the dog, at least you know he is a true friend and really loves you. This has been my experience as a former cop, and a disabled veteran.
Nothing really new with regard to mental health meds or the psychologists congame. But people with depression might want to look into Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS). It has helped some people that have not had success with conventional treatments. Best of luck to everyone suffering. May the Officer Rest In Peace. https://neurostar.com/
Knew him. This was not Rahm’s fault or the Department’s fault. Please stop with all of that. I borderline hate Rahm, Eddie, and the Merit hack exempts running this Department, but this was not their fault. He was in bad shape and friends/co workers talked to him and made accommodations to help him. Encouraged he get involved with EAP, and he did. All who cared for him tried to help. This was not job related. This had nothing to do with the public’s attitude toward the police. Please just pray for his little son. Thanks.
Google his name. See all of the homicide cases that he has been involved in as a detective. Read about all the body’s he discovered, all the police involved shootings that he has had to hold the hands of the officers involved. How long before he has had enough? So many of us are crippled with PTSD and we are expected to carry on because it’s what we “signed up for”.... well this is what happens.... Years and years of this is too much. Especially if your good at your job like he was. We are so glad when you show up as The assigned detective and don’t consider the impact long term..... Thank you to all of the detective that we take for granted for showing up and actually trying to make a difference, and so sorry for the burdens that you carry...
Don't let The Machine win.
It will at times demoralize you, anger you, be a blatant
slap in the face as incompetent Merits and/or Clouters
advance in the System. But always remember this:
outside the CPD they are nothing. They are worthless.
Their skills can't be transferred.
The Machine may shortchange you, take away your
dignity and ambition, and turn your mind as black as
a coal mine. But don't let The Machine take your life.
10/29/2018 12:24:00 AM
The best piece of writing I have seen on the SCC.. this is so true
Don’t be afraid to open up to your partner , supervisors, spouse ,other family member.
You have family , you are Important to them .
You are hurting others when you end your life .
If you see someone that seems down , talk to them at roll call , roll on a few of their calls , ask them to meet for coffee ,maybe after work for a cold one . You can save their life , listen to them, let them know things will be ok .
May that detectives soul Rest In Peace . Prayers for his family .
It's not normal to become accustomed to taking large amounts of BS from inside and outside the department.
No human was meant to endure the kind of stress a cop deals with.
We don't talk about things. We bottle things up inside us.
We need more positivity from our department, coworkers. We deserve to be treated better.
10/29/2018 04:29:00 PM
Yes, we do deserve to be treated better, but until that day comes, I give credit to an unknown wise man who, more than a couple of times, has written the blog entry, "Look, laugh, leave."
Dont know what the stress was that pushed the Officer over the edge. I remember when I was going thru all kinds of crap about 10 years ago. Beefs, lawsuits, no backing from the very same bosses that we worked for,etc... Dont let this job dictate your future. I couldnt wait to get off this job and after couple months of not being the Police, I already feel better. Not because the job was hard but that the bullshit you deal with within the department. I dont blame the citizens for disliking us. They dont really know us or really what we do. Its the enemies within that cause good hardworking cops to endure enormous stress and deal with their crap on the daily basis.
I pray that we wont have any more brothers or sisters take their own lives ever again. Look out for one another and get to that retirement and let the new chapter of your life begin! God Bless The Police!
EAP counselors are not cops. They are civilian professionals. There are cops that work there, answering phones and such. THEY DONT ASK FOR YOUR LAST NAME OR STAR. THEY DO NOT KEEP ANY RECORDS. You can use insurance to go to your own therapist but you will be hard pressed to find one who understands cops and what cops go through like they do. they have saved plenty marriages and some lives too.
There is also a major suicide epidemic in the Sheriff's office. Dart has created such a hostile work environment everyone is so sad all the time. But killing yourself is never the answer.
And think twice about EAP. Our insurance covers counseling and other assistances. Unless you want a fellow copper without any training sitting you down and talking to you possible talking to others. I just say that knowing that a very mean racist male supervisor is a part of it. Many complaints but hey he's EAP!! LOL see? I laughed! It's all a joke. It's not that serious. Live it up guys! God bless those of you who walk that line everyday and hold your heads head. Thank you. To the rest of you, there is a special place in hell for you and yes karma is a biaaaaaatch!!!
10/29/2018 02:24:00 PM
This is So not true EAP is great They helped me immeasurably
Guys.. see a psychologist for god sakes... I have been seeing one since 2010... I am married, happy... my arrests are null... in other words... a number that does not exist: other offices say my arrest numbers are shit. Enough with the jokes guys— keep on smiling, see you soon
Where do you find one?
"Where do you find one?"
Call the number on tge back of your insurance card & ask for a psych or ask your doctor to refer you to one. It's a very easy process. (No sarcasm here) A lot of people don't know how to get started.
I guess the natural reaction to tragedies like this is to try to find someone or something to blame as the cause. The job is so much different now since I retired nine years ago. I didn't remember the complaints numbering anywhere near what I read on these posts. Like a lot of retirees, I remember the friendships and laughs. I was a lucky copper. Never got hurt, had some close calls and some tense situations but who on the job hasn't. But I considered myself lucky because I never thought of the job as anything but 8 hours of patrol, processing pinches, some court, hating traffic court, especially the major rooms when DUI pinches were ongoing continuances that ruined furlos because they went on and on until the shyster lawyers got their end.
But this stuff with suicides is a completely different set of circumstances. I'm not sure if its a by-product of "new policing" or if the intrusion of the political process has further infiltrated the department down to the patrolman's level. Its a given that most citizens have NO idea what being the police is all about. I used to tell friends that it was the most cosmetically romanticized job depicted on television. I'd also tell friends that wearing a uniform in crime infested areas makes you one of the most despised creatures on the face of the earth. One of the things my FTO taught me was that being the police will teach you how to make character judgements within seconds and that a citizen/complainant's body language will tell you how much service you're going to give them within those seconds. He also taught me that 95% of what we did was bullshit and the important thing is that we both go home at the end of the shift and leave the job back at the district when you went home.
The irony of all this is the rap against the police is that we're all racist, all judgmental and stereotype everyone. And that rap usually comes from someone who's doing that very thing to you. Stay safe, go home, love your spouse and kids and realize you don't have an answer for every problem. Bless you all.
https://www.chicagocompasscounseling.com/index.php
Nobody knows what goes thru a persons mind and why they decide to take their own life. They say the mind rules which I think is true. Officers please know that you are not alone though you may think you are. The department really doesnt care otherwise they could reduce this issue. FOP, PBPA really dont care. Cops do think they are superman or women but we all can reach that so called POINT. Talk with somebody, anybody if you ever have a thought to end your life.
Carrie Steiner is a psychologist and former CPD. She works with cops. She is a good and can be trusted.
PTSD is REAL for Policemen!
There are some civilians who get all bent
out of shape when this comes up.
You know... All the self righteous howls of:
"You Coppers have the nerve to try and claim some protected
status that should be reserved only for military combat veterans
who have actually seen and done some things. Stop thinking so
highly of yourselves, stop pouting over finally being held accountable
and get back to work. We pay you too much money for you to selfishly
try to protect yourselves when crime is so out of control. If you don't like
being scrutinized and criticized, quit. There are TENS of THOUSANDS
of people lined up who will do your jobs for half the pay and none of the
bitching we have listen to from you. Come down off your cross already..."
>Stands back...
Admires work...<
You know... The whole "Public Servant" thing.
Servants should be quiet, humble and inoffensive
with no thought given to their own well being and conditions
lest they be condemned as greedy and self interested.
So far, all the discussion about "what's wrong with Policing"
has been one sided and deliberately mis-indexed so as to
miss hitting any of the truly meaningful and relevant marks.
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Right?
About 2 years ago, my now wife said “we need to do therapy or else.” Best decision she ever forced me to do. Never realized not talking about work and how it affects the home life until she was ready to leave me. We were going for a while and now I go on my own for a check in once a month or so. It’s good to vent to someone who’s not a cop that I’m not crazy
Any therapist will verify they take our health insurance before they do anything else. No cost ever and I’ve been going 2 years now. Just need to call and precertify treatment like any other doctor visit. It’s not “couples therapy” which is not covered but “individual psychotherapy services.”
It worked for me, it doesn’t hurt to talk to someone.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We need other think of another way, what we are doing now is clearly not working. We need maybe a different outlook on CPD. Maybe more supportive of each other.
10/29/2018 02:38:00 AM
Years ago, we would stop at “Ira’s”, and debrief. It all seemed simpler back then. We all seemed to get along, and actually have a laugh a day! It’s just sad to hear....
I second the alcohol comment ^ above. Cut back or cut it out of your life all together.
"Cut back or cut it out of your life"
(Sorry, force of habit-Airplane Movie reference; lmao) Miller Lite is particularly debilitating. Trust me. Get back into an old hobby. 1st/16th/22nd/etc. etc. F.U. pay me.
I’m at a lot st for words. There is life after this job go back to basics,seek help,pray, talk to someone!! Think of your family Dont hurt them. Ask God to strengthen you.
9 and a day said...
And think twice about EAP. Our insurance covers counseling and other assistances. Unless you want a fellow copper without any training sitting you down and talking to you possible talking to others. I just say that knowing that a very mean racist male supervisor is a part of it. Many complaints but hey he's EAP!! LOL see? I laughed! It's all a joke. It's not that serious. Live it up guys! God bless those of you who walk that line everyday and hold your heads head. Thank you. To the rest of you, there is a special place in hell for you and yes karma is a biaaaaaatch!!!
10/29/2018 02:24:00 PM
This is So not true EAP is great They helped me immeasurably
10/30/2018 12:41:00 AM
So you has one experience which was good and because of it it's not possible at all that one member at EAP maybe a jagoff ey? So one says it's not good and here you come out saying no my experience was good so it's not possible that it's bad. You are one sided simple minded ass wipe. What did you go to EAP for? Were they qualified to help you? Was it someone with a masters? Doctorate? Board certified? What kind of training do EAP members get? You trust a cop to represent you in court? Care for your finances? Health of you and your family? Talk to a friend or go to a professional!
Deal with it , don’t blame media ,supervisors.
Be the police or find a less stressful job .
It’s aleays been a stressful job , don’t take it home with you .
To many are afraid to go on a call , back up other officers .
Speak up for heavens sake , if you see an officer struggling, talk to him/her . Step up , be there for each other .
Not a darn thing media ,administration says should push anyone over the edge .
My guess is not the job , it’s personal problems at home .
Get help ,give help , don’t ignore someone that suddenly shuts down from others .
Anonymous Anonymous said...
EAP counselors are not cops. They are civilian professionals. There are cops that work there, answering phones and such. THEY DONT ASK FOR YOUR LAST NAME OR STAR. THEY DO NOT KEEP ANY RECORDS. You can use insurance to go to your own therapist but you will be hard pressed to find one who understands cops and what cops go through like they do. they have saved plenty marriages and some lives too.
10/30/2018 12:23:00 AM
How do they not keep records? What happens when you call the second or third time and get a different therapist? How do they pick up the case and read notes from the two previous calls or do you start from the beginning each time. Cannot believe records aren’t kept
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Don’t be afraid to open up to your partner , supervisors, spouse ,other family member.
You have family , you are Important to them .
You are hurting others when you end your life .
If you see someone that seems down , talk to them at roll call , roll on a few of their calls , ask them to meet for coffee ,maybe after work for a cold one . You can save their life , listen to them, let them know things will be ok .
May that detectives soul Rest In Peace . Prayers for his family .
Open up to your supervisor? Yea right. There are many good supervisors, but there are many I won’t tell anything that I wouldn’t tell my worst enemy and sometimes you can’t tell which are the good ones or the bad ones
The Department doesn't want to hear about these issues... All of the reactive emails sent from HQ are a joke. Don't speak about, or address it to the "powers that be". Current fellow-officer (who utilized Department "resources"), and great guy sent an email a few weeks ago, when the first two Brothers took their lives. He was stripped, and ordered for an immediate Psychological Evaluation. He was only bringing awareness to this major issue, and WHY officers are reluctantly seeking assistance. In essence, being punished for sharing his ordeal. It's sad.. Stay strong, don't be afraid to speak up!
EAP does a great Job. They helped my wife and I out. Someone has to be an unbiased observer and critic we aren’t all angels including our significant others The harsh reality is we bring home our work along with our frustration and anger. Stress is a killer of health. This is a Police issue not a mental health but over all health of us all. We should ask our fellow officers “how are you” sometimes that’s all it takes. Let your partners vent. Don’t read the newspaper I can’t even watch the channel 9 news it’s all a bunch of crap. Again EAP if you pray church is a good place for that. Thanks All be safe please.
Anonymous said...
Guys.. see a psychologist for god sakes... I have been seeing one since 2010... I am married, happy... my arrests are null... in other words... a number that does not exist: other offices say my arrest numbers are shit. Enough with the jokes guys— keep on smiling, see you soon
Where do you find one?
10/30/2018 02:26:00 AM
I am not the poster you replied to but I found mine on Google. Looked for someone close with a parking lot that wasn't too opened. Thought someone would see me and all that jazz. But after meeting with a few folks I decided to settle in with one who I felt comfortable speaking to. Things have been better ever since. Sleep, eating, working out, sex, relationships and hobbies are stuff that define us. Not our jobs. We do it for that shift and nothing more. Remember to talk to someone. Someone professional. Trust me when I say many officers and fire fighters speak to people. Nothing wrong with that. It actually takes courage to seek help. Be whole for you and your family. Stay strong.
like some of you,i also went through a dark time.i was depressed and drinking myself to death.my loving daughters began to call me crying and pleading that I get help.i also always saw it as a sign of weakness,and all the other people around me had no idea of the funk I was in.i finally saw it as a now or never situation,and at that time I was totally defeated and entered a alcholol treatment program and started seeing a shrink.it was a tough time.months later I feel really good and look back and cant believe I let myself get to that point.there is light at the end of the tunnel guys and gals.be brave enough to surrender and get the help you need.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-officer-injured-20181030-story.html
Anonymous said...
EAP counselors are not cops. They are civilian professionals. There are cops that work there, answering phones and such. THEY DONT ASK FOR YOUR LAST NAME OR STAR. THEY DO NOT KEEP ANY RECORDS. You can use insurance to go to your own therapist but you will be hard pressed to find one who understands cops and what cops go through like they do. they have saved plenty marriages and some lives too.
10/30/2018 12:23:00 AM
How do they not keep records? What happens when you call the second or third time and get a different therapist? How do they pick up the case and read notes from the two previous calls or do you start from the beginning each time. Cannot believe records aren’t kept
10/30/2018 12:21:00 PM
Thank you for pointing that out. So if what the original poster states is true... can I send some crack heads and local mentals to EAP? How would EAP know they're not cops? They don't ask for last name or star... wtf? I sought out assistance from a licensed and certified person who the insurance covered. Only saw that one person and never anyone else. I'm pretty sure certain records are kept to keep up with the ever changing condition of someone. I can't see how someone could keep up with so many different people's conditions and progress. Glad I saw someone.
Our department’s response, including the uneducated minds of many of our co-workers with well-intended but simplistic “get over it” or “it’ll be okay tomorrow” attitudes is what perpetuates all of this. Somehow it’s more acceptable to be a drunk or any other assortment of things than it is to admit you are depressed on this job. Over 10 years ago, like many fellow members, after pouring a good work ethic into my career, never asking for favors & not being connected enough to have them bestowed upon me, I faced a revelation that after 17 years of a pretty unblemished career and years of long crappy work hours that I was childless and unmarried and in my 40’s. I wasn’t suicidal. It was the holidays and if anything I was down about the time but wanted to feel better.I took a proactive approach , took a week’s medical, got some rest and went to a doctor to get an anti-depressant. There was no incident at work, no history of medical roll abuse, no personal incident at home. I simply was being proactive. My mistake was presenting a note that stated the diagnosis was fatigue and the treatment was an anti-depressant. I was immediately psyched and admittedly told, there’s nothing wrong with what I did but if but “you are a liability to the department.” Not very forward thinking when someone has the forsight to be proactive and get help. Fast forward a few years later when I had experienced a miscarriage and the demise of a relationship during fertility treatments, I didn’t seek the help I so badly needed for fear of being stigmatized by my dept again. I fell apart, got hospitalized and had my FOID taken. The dept. that claims so much concern for my well being never once reached out to me during this time...not one single boss, including some that are now exempts. The people I was closest to at work made no effort either. The people who truly surprised me the most were not people who I considered close. Those few took the time to offer me prayers & words of comfort. One other co-worker offered me an anonymous note calling me a “psycho” upon my return to work. Oh I should add that after the dept. cleared me to come back to work (after having loads of medical time still available to me), they called me down to Human Resources to place me on unpaid leave while I appealed for my FOID Card & did so after many conversations by the personnel sergeant who assured me me it wasn’t a problem. They in fact changed the order 2 days before clearing me to come back to work & that sergeant (who is now a commander) could’ve cared less. I was my sole provider. 9 months of not collecting a paycheck while rapists sat down at call back collecting a check. Do I trust one iotas that the dept. has changed and cares about me still- ABSOLUTELY NOT! But I will say this, depression is painful. It is physically an exhausting illness. If you have to find a doctor that you can find even the smallest reason to get time off to get help- do it. Muster every ounce you have, find some glimmer of hope somewhere, even if it’s day by day. Get counseling, get medications, find support. Not all of us have families & this job can disconnect you from a lot of people, but there are always those that will surprise you in the best way. Depression skews your perspective. Be aware of that as you push through it. Find hope outside this department. It’s there.
I am a citizen and I would like to stop the supervisors who say my neighborhood demand "this amount of arrests " There is no this amount of arrests due for ANY neighborhood. There is no set number if crimes. Fewer arrests mean fewer crimes ate being committed, not that crimes are occurring and no one is being arrested. As citizens, we need to stop that misconception and then maybe the real criminals can be caught and prosecuted.
As far as EAP not keeping records... you keep seeing the same therapist everytime. He may keep unofficial records but they only have your first name. No unit, no star no employee number. Mine never took notes when i went.
like some of you,i also went through a dark time.i was depressed and drinking myself to death.my loving daughters began to call me crying and pleading that I get help.i also always saw it as a sign of weakness,and all the other people around me had no idea of the funk I was in.
Alcohol abuse and depression go hand in hand. Especially with the male population.Many, many years ago........I was driving a beat car, still legally drunk from the night before, avoiding police work and sweating my ass off. I hated the job, my ex-wife and myself. A smart supervisor identified the issue and directed me to friends of Bill Wilson. Eventually it stuck and been sober since.
Many years ago (30 plus) i was an inpatient counselor at a Chicago hospital offering substance abuse treatment. I saw both CPD and CFD come in thru the doors for care. A couple by their own choice but most forced by a boss otj. Once, a certain commander came by my office to talk. I'll never forget what he said. "Please help him. His wife and kids need him." Not, I need him otj. Not, he's a screw up and an embarassment. None of that nonsense. That commander cared about his men and women under him. I had an officer who refused to surrender his weapon. Thankfully the department chaplain and his wife convinced him to allow me to secure it during his treatment. Had a fella on CFD rescue squad who panicked at the sight of a needle when the nurses needed to do a blood draw. First responders are some tough mfers at times. Lucky for me I grew up in a cop family. I understood the mindset. The uniform, and the way you carry yourselves, should command respect. Unfortunately In these times inner city policing often requires demanding respect. You're taught in the acadamy to take control of the situation and be in charge. It's hard to not be in charge. But that's otj. All of these people I mentioned above beat their demons. They succeeded because they were able to cede control and let someone in. One thing I know for certain. I didn't cause them to succeed. I pointed to a "bag" of tools and showed them what worked for me. They found within themselves the strength and endurance to succeed. You guys and gals otj deserve nothing but the best. When most run from trouble, you run towards it. Now might be the right time to run for help.
No, it’s not the right thing to do!
Say it again, No, it’s not the right thing to do.
And one more time.
I talk to my Dog..He understands me better then anyone else does,and I absolutely know that he will not snitch on me..
Eap offered me to go to west palm beach Florida for 45 days and get help with my drinking and depression and you know what it worked and now I’m involved in aa program my life has changed and I live one day at a time by the grace of god. If you got ppo insurance it’s free and anonymous and great weather
Blogger Ragman said...
Many years ago (30 plus) i was an inpatient counselor at a Chicago hospital offering substance abuse treatment. I saw both CPD and CFD come in thru the doors for care. A couple by their own choice but most forced by a boss otj. Once, a certain commander came by my office to talk. I'll never forget what he said. "Please help him. His wife and kids need him." Not, I need him otj. Not, he's a screw up and an embarassment. None of that nonsense. That commander cared about his men and women under him. I had an officer who refused to surrender his weapon. Thankfully the department chaplain and his wife convinced him to allow me to secure it during his treatment. Had a fella on CFD rescue squad who panicked at the sight of a needle when the nurses needed to do a blood draw. First responders are some tough mfers at times. Lucky for me I grew up in a cop family. I understood the mindset. The uniform, and the way you carry yourselves, should command respect. Unfortunately In these times inner city policing often requires demanding respect. You're taught in the acadamy to take control of the situation and be in charge. It's hard to not be in charge. But that's otj. All of these people I mentioned above beat their demons. They succeeded because they were able to cede control and let someone in. One thing I know for certain. I didn't cause them to succeed. I pointed to a "bag" of tools and showed them what worked for me. They found within themselves the strength and endurance to succeed. You guys and gals otj deserve nothing but the best. When most run from trouble, you run towards it. Now might be the right time to run for help.
Great story and thanks for all you did for my fellow officers. Unfortunately that was 30 plus years ago and times have changed. I would hope there are exempts still out there that would the same way they did 30 years ago, but I doubt it. Now you would probably get stripped
To the person who mentioned the 30 year old incident, exactly,, the solution is to strip you now. It’s not treated as an illness. It’s stigmatized from the very beginning. It’s one thing if you refuse to get help and are an active threat to yourself and others, but depression doesn’t automatically make you a suicidal or homicidal maniac. If anything, if you’re willingly seeking help that’s a good sign, but a culture that deters you from seeking it isn’t the answer. Our job doesn’t take into effect that many on this job end up losing their support systems by the very nature of this job. This job can isolate you from those not a part of its culture and then what’s your reward if you’re unlucky enough to find yourself struggling with depression- let’s take your job and screw you over in every financially conceivable way. Yeah, if you don’t contemplate suicide after that- you’re almost inhuman. Those that maybe know the “right” people may get their struggle covered up but in the end that doesn’t do them any good either. The solution should be that treatment for depression should be treated as any other illness. There should be a treatment plan in place and of course assessment for any risks of suicide, but the stigma of being a “personnel concern” should be removed. Your efforts to get help should not place you in the same bag as some hothead who’s costing the city millions in lawsuits every other month because he/she has issues they refuse to acknowledge. If the dept. merely opened itself to this idea, a whole lot of people would probably not let it get to as bad a place as it gets.
I talk to my Dog..He understands me better then anyone else does,and I absolutely know that he will not snitch on me..
10/30/2018 09:37:00 PM
Me too. He's a rescue who thinks I walk on water. I take him everywhere.
To 3:24am, thank you for your response. I'm not sure I had anything to do with their recoveries tho. As you know, survival is drilled into you in training (at least it was back in the day) and hammered into you daily otj. They were able to connect their otj survival training to their personal lives and problems and in the process grasp some coping skills along the way in group sessions. An important note: They and only they decided if and/or when to share their profession with the group, as the group was gen pop. Not all coppers and firemen. The coppers I know all seem to have good problem solving skills, but coping skills are another matter. You see too much to not be affected by it. Looking back I believe I learned more from them than they ever learned from me. One other thing I forgot to mention. I never took copious notes of one on one talks. Just noted " Productive session. Patient accepting and responding to treatment plan." That's all anyone needed to know.
To 8:22am. WOW, I'm serious. You have a handle on the problem in the department. Over the last 20 years or so many new anti depressants have be introduced with great results.A lot more options out there since I came around years ago. All I had then was Prozac with rotten side effects. Now the question is, How do we get those that need and want help connected with that help? Read the history of Alcoholics Anonymous and I think that's a start. It started with Dr Bob and Bill Wilson. All it takes is 2 PO's to start an informal talk, Maybe find a therapist that's willing to facilitate, and meet when you can. Most therapists will work informally with an MD to get scripts for meds. It's a start. I'd be willing to help in any way I could, but I'm not a cop and I don't have half the alphabet behind my name. i don't think that would fly with the average beat cop. My suggestion - trust your instincts. You know who to trust and who to stay away from.
Bad situation, but a good dude. Good guy to work for hands down. He may repeat the same word a thousand times a day, but has always been good to his peeps. Several funny stories about him and most are true with a Hollywood twist. Hope that you will be 100% and back with us soon. In terms of bosses, he may be a rainman of sorts, but, in terms of bosses, he is near the top with me. Take Care, Captain
Anonymous said...
Our department’s response, including the uneducated minds of many of our co-workers with well-intended but simplistic “get over it” or “it’ll be okay tomorrow” attitudes is what perpetuates all of this. Somehow it’s more acceptable to be a drunk or any other assortment of things than it is to admit you are depressed on this job. Over 10 years ago, like many fellow members, after pouring a good work ethic into my career, never asking for favors & not being connected enough to have them bestowed upon me, I faced a revelation that after 17 years of a pretty unblemished career and years of long crappy work hours that I was childless and unmarried and in my 40’s. I wasn’t suicidal. It was the holidays and if anything I was down about the time but wanted to feel better.I took a proactive approach , took a week’s medical, got some rest and went to a doctor to get an anti-depressant. There was no incident at work, no history of medical roll abuse, no personal incident at home. I simply was being proactive. My mistake was presenting a note that stated the diagnosis was fatigue and the treatment was an anti-depressant.
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I truly wish I knew who you were so I could give you the biggest hug. God bless you. Thank you for sharing your story. Thank you for not giving up!!
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