No CPAC....for Now
Well this is interesting - an actual positive development:
- Chicago aldermen have voted down a long-shot proposal to give an elected board power over Chicago police, including authority to investigate and fire officers.
The Public Safety Committee voted Monday on the Civilian Police Accountability Commission ordinance pushed by Ald. Carlos Ramirez-Rosa, 35th, which would have given the agency power to appoint and fire the police superintendent, investigate all police shootings and alleged misconduct, and overhaul the current disciplinary process.
CPAC is a popular idea among some activists but has not found much support from city officials. The committee voted by voice to reject the proposal.
Some aldermen raised concerns about professionalism of investigations if CPAC went into effect. Others said they were worried about bias.
Ald. Walter Burnett, 27th, said he has attended hearings where the idea was discussed and said some of the plan’s advocates seemed “somewhat hateful of the police.” It concerns him to put police under the authority of people “who don’t like the police,” he said.
That's interesting, seeing as how Burnett was a guest of the State at one of our finer penal institutions due to an Armed Robbery conviction.
You can bet this will come up again if Prickwrinkle wins.
You can bet this will come up again if Prickwrinkle wins.
Labels: good news
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
72 Comments:
Burnett is not a bad guy, he's a closet police supporter and what he did when he was a 18yo has no bearing today.
Think of all the people who will be upset to hear this.
There will never be enough good news to ever get this department back. I don’t care if sessions is able to overturn this consent decree and we get a states attorney, mayor, governor that is hard on criminals. This state, city, department are utterly hopeless.
I can hardly believe it! The Aldermen finally did something good for the citizens of Chicago. If this insane idea ever happened the violence in Chicago would skyrocket far past what it is now. Many would immediately retire early or just resign and go elsewhere. The ones left would be frozen in place scared to death to even move while at work. This idea of creating such a police hating monster to investigate and make important decisions is outrageous! Who would even take the test to get on this job?
Ald. Burnett has always been fair in my encounters with him. He has always been respectful to me and my partner and my Sergeant when we see him in 012. He also attended a police benefit at FOP when I was there.
can we stop people yet? Can we have an event # for a smile and wave.
Ald. Walter Burnett, 27th, said he has attended hearings
where the idea was discussed and said some of the plan’s
advocates seemed “somewhat hateful of the police.”
It concerns him to put police under the authority
of people “who don’t like the police,” he said...
>Dented empty pop can rolling across the street<
"Somewhat" hateful of The Police?
How Walter talked that fast, greasy and nasty shit while
avoiding biting his tongue is fucking AH-MAY-ZING.
Hatred of The Police is a fucking growth
industry here in Chicago.
It's fun.
It garners attention.
It's HUGELY PROFITABLE.
It's politically expedient.
It's a very powerful curtailment
of Police/Public Safety activity.
It's a very potent wedge for separating
The Police from the public's good will.
It serves as a very strong inducement for The Police
to withdraw themselves and "hold church under a bushel basket."
The Police now need to be "low observability."
CPD fleet doesn't need to be the high visibility
knock-off ersatz pseudo "Battenburg" color scheme.
A more fitting color is RAL 7022...
Umbra Grey...
Dirty greyish-brown that fades very well
into the urban visual noise.
Hard to hate what your eyes won't let you see...
We think it's a good idea in this era of
"Make The Police Go Away and Leave Us Alone."
We'll still magically appear, drop paper,
zip up a copy of the VIN into the body bag
befor the body snatchers do their magical
dance and go:
>POOF!<
Poleece can go >POOF!< too...
The unsatisfiable just might be satisfied
since THEY are the ones who are getting
their hineys smooched by politicians and
news media.
The rest of everybody else has been deliberately nullified at the ballot
box so all the high ass taxes they pay goes to support those who wander
aimlessly, (only to get up on the balls of their feet with a purpose when
they spot YOU desperately trying to get in your house/car before THEY take
notice) do violence, replicate relentlessly and turn food into shit.
Trife-Life...
The Tao of Swing-Dickery.
"We don't understand why you Cops are so mean and nasty!"
Hey scc, check out this article the media doesn’t like it when citizens don’t like them. Much like the atmosphere they have created for law enforcement.
What do you politicians think COPA is? A witch hunt organization that is based on falsifying reports and over turning shootings that the department said were good shootings but copa wants to make bad shootings.
OT:
For those of you who have signed up to take the SWAT test, a little BIRD at 35th St is chirping about how SWAT will be going back to the 6-2 schedule on change day because of their refusal to disobey the G.O. and answer their department phone while off duty. Don't believe me? Watch and see. You may want to reconsider trying out unless you enjoy only having the weekend off every 6 weeks.
For those of you who have signed up to take the SWAT test, a little BIRD at 35th St is chirping about how SWAT will be going back to the 6-2 schedule on change day because of their refusal to disobey the G.O. and answer their department phone while off duty. Don't believe me? Watch and see. You may want to reconsider trying out unless you enjoy only having the weekend off every 6 weeks.
Well that would be a lot better than having the whole SWAT Team either off Fri/Sat or Sun/Mon when things are busiest in the city over weekends. A little time due and you're always off on a weekend. No wonder you guys get so much OT. What an idiotic schedule. Welcome to our world now, where weekends are fleeting and time off is denied regularly.
OT:
For those of you who have signed up to take the SWAT test, a little BIRD at 35th St is chirping about how SWAT will be going back to the 6-2 schedule on change day because of their refusal to disobey the G.O. and answer their department phone while off duty. Don't believe me? Watch and see. You may want to reconsider trying out unless you enjoy only having the weekend off every 6 weeks.
10/30/2018 03:01:00 AM
Lol looks like someone is trying to improve their own chances by convincing others to avoid the test.
No one signs up for SWAT for the schedule. You can make it 7 on, 0 off it won’t matter. It’s a moneymaking unit first and foremost. Secondly, once you experience the SWAT culture you cannot go back to the life of a lowly patrolman. No one is going to leave and give up the perks
I don’t care for the underperforming, overly white clout unit, but realistically, why try to tell people not to try out? Have them go ahead and continue; if they don’t like it because of a schedule change, then they can leave.
The court system is doing this job already. Televising the JVd trial and now the false report trial. Since when does any case in cook county get treated like O.J. if this is the new standard that judges are goi g to adhere to, every case should be televised. It will be like instant replay in the NFL. We can rewind and find the most minuscule detail and critique the attorneys and judges. When you live feed a trial the facts get drowned out by theater of the camera.
Oh well. Back to my job at the fruit punch advisory council.
First of all, Ald Burnett is not a bad guy. He’s a great example of how a person can be rehabilitated when being held accountable. He really does like the police.
Secondly, to the poster at 10/30/2018 01:19:00 AM, Dude, ya gotta get a life. Your dribble is neither useful nor amusing.
If Preckwinkle wins you know it will come up again and it will become law. That is a fact jack and the criminal element will own the city substantially more than it holds now. Liberals are going to get what liberals want. Do you see who they vote for? And are there more liberal voters than any other voting block in the city? Yes and yes to both questions. Exactly what happened in Detroit and many other large cities across the country. The only thing that happened yesterday is the decline was slightly slowed,
I'll bet the part about being able to fire the superintendent was what tanked the deal. Hiring and firing the super is a part of mayoral prerogative. This is Chicago, after all.
10/30/2018 03:01:00 AM
The 4 and 2 you have a weekend off every 7 weeks, it’s 5 weeks for the 6 and 2 and you get 2 in a row. Plus it’s an 8 hour day, translating into 7.5/7.75. 10 hour day will be gone citywide thank God.
10/30/2018 12:08:00 AM
Agreed!
Having the Great Unwashed Democrat welfare voters in charge of investigating the police is never a good idea.
Burnett is nothing but a hustler ex con criminal who should have been in jail long ago if we had a legitimate us attorney instead of a democratic ass kissing scum like Fardon or the current Rahm ass kisser John lausch. Burnett shakes down every developer in town and has destroyed his ward because the developer friends of Rahm have ruined in by paying off ex con Burnett, a friend of the gangs.
CPAC would diminish the Mayor’s power. That’s all they care about.
Two years in the joint must have Done him some good
I worked in Cabrini for over 20 years. While Burnett appears, on occasion, to be a police supporter, overall when push comes to shove... Burnett is for Burnett.
A leopard can't change its spots kind of philosophy.
Alderman Carlos Rosa is nothing but a tight jean wearing punk. He still lives with his parents! Why do these people elect a person like that who can’t even live on his on!
If the politicians were able to see the hate that the advocates had then that must have been a super amount of hate that stood out so much that even a blind man could see it.
2018 LEADING DISTRICTS FOR MURDER (through Sunday, Oct 28th)
011....58 MURDERS
005...49
007...42
006...40
015...39
In order, Districts 003, 002, 010, 004, 008 and 009 have 25-27 Murders during 2018 through last Sunday.
011 leads all CPD districts in all four categories of Part I Index VIOLENT crimes and shooting incidents. 011 is also the only district in the CPD in which VIOLENT crimes surpass Property crimes. Last week, 018 tied 011 in Sexual Assaults. 011 has since regained sole lead with 116 sexual assaults.
SOURCE: CPD
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I can hardly believe it! The Aldermen finally did something good for the citizens of Chicago. If this insane idea ever happened the violence in Chicago would skyrocket far past what it is now. Many would immediately retire early or just resign and go elsewhere. The ones left would be frozen in place scared to death to even move while at work. This idea of creating such a police hating monster to investigate and make important decisions is outrageous! Who would even take the test to get on this job?
10/30/2018 12:36:00 AM
Don't kid yourself. They did it because they didn't want to cede any of their power to use their clout and influence things on the CPD themselves.
+++++ Chicago aldermen have voted down a long-shot proposal to give an elected board power over Chicago police, including authority to investigate and fire officers. ~~~ snip ~~~ Ald. Walter Burnett, 27th, said ... some of the plan’s advocates seemed “somewhat hateful of the police.” It concerns him to put police under the authority of people “who don’t like the police,” he said. +++++
Warning! Warning!... Emergency! Call out the Army, call out the Navy and the Marines, Alert all the ships at Sea! It appears that Chicago's Alder-Creatures have been 'disappeared', and replaced by lookalikes who have functioning brains and they know how to use them.
Okay, all joking aside, maybe Alderman Burnett doesn't realize that the whole idea behind this board was the the people (and folk) on it, was they they DO hate the police. It was to be a bastardized version of a 'Star Chamber'.
Ramirez-Rosa is a socialist. Theres nothing but shit between his ears.
O/T New Blue Cross Blue Shield PPO Plan rates out for Non Medicare Eligible Retirees
Single Premium $2318.52 monthly
Couple Premium $4127.78 monthly
Family Premium $5728.28 monthly
They were worried about lawsuits!
The local Pandering Elected Alderloons are doing a fine job without CPAC with their 100% supported COPA-ACLU-blm.
Besides all that, imagine getting a new merit shortBus Soop Specialty Ed every few months because they don’t like what he’s/she is or isn’t doing.
As for PorkWrinkle,
Many still don’t know there’s a (R) candidate running a Write -In campaign for Cook County Board President.
It’s a long shot but Write In - Jonathan H. Luers
Show up and Vote by Nov 6th.
Keep voting Democrat and putting these assholes in power.
This ridiculous notion is just like Freddy Kruger.... it’ll be back.
When you read this story looks like he manned up, he did it, served his time and is now alderman:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1995-04-30-9504300120-story.html
If he helps police really it does not matter the past at 17 years old, how many coppers on this job today are free of convictions? As a matter of fact how many coppers and many city workers are violating federal immigration laws, with the democrats making sure they can keep up the charade? Alderman Burnett you joined up with Jesse white, yes he is old now but that man brought so many poor kids forward to help them with his various Jesse White programs! god bless you alderman, your past did not cloud youir future, your ward is booming and yes met you at city hall a few years ago you were a gentleman! Thank you for supporting the police, your an example for the others!!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/anger-toward-media-spreads-into-local-communities/ar-BBP4RYu?ocid=ientp
OT:
For those of you who have signed up to take the SWAT test, a little BIRD at 35th St is chirping about how SWAT will be going back to the 6-2 schedule on change day because of their refusal to disobey the G.O. and answer their department phone while off duty. Don't believe me? Watch and see. You may want to reconsider trying out unless you enjoy only having the weekend off every 6 weeks.
-- Who cares about some unit of clouted clowns that I've never seen in my almost 20yrs on the street? Go back to a district and answer some calls, let someone else get a fucking day off if it's so bad.
OT:
For those of you who have signed up to take the SWAT test, a little BIRD at 35th St is chirping about how SWAT will be going back to the 6-2 schedule on change day because of their refusal to disobey the G.O. and answer their department phone while off duty. Don't believe me? Watch and see. You may want to reconsider trying out unless you enjoy only having the weekend off every 6 weeks.
10/30/2018 03:01:00 AM
If they won’t answer the phone when off duty, why do they have take home cars? 6-2 would make sense to have more of them on the street available when needed at the beginning of an incident instead of an hour or more after it started. You want to be on SWAT and have weekends off
Another CPD took his life this morning. Retired officer.
It’s coming...eventually.
Personally, I think the city council ought to stop dodging its responsibilities. The CC should be vetting and confirming all high level city employees.
Starting in January the 025th district will start some kind of new Super Caps program and is requesting officers applications for a new 4th watch. Who thinks this is a good idea?
Burnett is ok. Always respectful of coppers.
Had several dealings with Ald Burnett in the old 013th District. Never had an issue. Treated the police fairly in my experience. We have to be careful and not do what the libs do, paint everyone with the same brush when we don't know the specifics.
If you’re close, start sweating.
From Bernstein Website:
The City of Chicago is currently planning to give the sergeants exam in 2019, and a lieutenants exam in 2020.
In order to prepare police officers for the new promotional exams, Bernstein Test Prep will be offering a comprehensive promotional exam training course.
Over the past 20 years, Bernstein students have consistently gotten the majority of the top CPD promotional exam scores! Picking the right review course for the new test is an important decision. The feedback from our students on our promotional review course has been extremely positive. You’ll want to go with a proven winner!
Did hell freeze over?
They should create a board of trustees like suburbs do that hire Alderman, Mayor possitions as oversight and accountability. If you vote make sure you vote for AG if you thought Losa Madigan was bad wait if Raoul gets in!
AG vote very important if you want to not have extended over sight in consent decree . Remember kids it's an agreement between state AG and Federal state Justice
It concerns him to put police under the authority of people “who don’t like the police,” he said.
They already did. ACLU and COPA
OT: Off duty commander shot himself,Zone 1...30OCT18 @ 1330ish. Hope it was accidental!!! He went to Swedish then to Masonic
Anonymous said...
O/T New Blue Cross Blue Shield PPO Plan rates out for Non Medicare Eligible Retirees
Single Premium $2318.52 monthly
Couple Premium $4127.78 monthly
Family Premium $5728.28 monthly
10/30/2018 10:50:00 AM
Anonymous said...
Another CPD took his life this morning. Retired officer.
10/30/2018 12:19:00 PM
AG vote very important if you want to not have extended over sight in consent decree . Remember kids it's an agreement between state AG and Federal state Justice
“Anonymous said...
Alderman Carlos Rosa is nothing but a tight jean wearing punk. He still lives with his parents! Why do these people elect a person like that who can’t even live on his on!
10/30/2018 09:12:00 AM”
To answer your question, it was either Ramirez-Rosa, or that drunk driver, Rey Colon. I can’t stand him or his staff, but it looks like the choices are going to be slim. I plan to vote for anyone running against him.
I hope they leave the sgt. List up because I'm at least in the ballpark but I'm realistic too. A new mayor means new merit POS must be promoted through the dept. This department could give a seminar in political sleeze
Anonymous said...
Starting in January the 025th district will start some kind of new Super Caps program and is requesting officers applications for a new 4th watch. Who thinks this is a good idea?
10/30/2018 01:25:00 PM
Tony Escamerit
Call me a cynical bastard (because I am) but I have to wonder how much of the aldermanic opposition to this proposal was due to it putting the superintendent and other top positions a few steps further away from the machine's vice grip.
Burnett and his precinct caotain needs to become a guest at one of your institutions again for voting irregularities. The precinct captain and one if his church family members kick people who oppose Burnett our of the polling place lying their names can.not be found in the system. The voters had left before we, the other Joe could get their names and help them complain to Election Central. They need to be locked up.
They are just concerned that they will be next. No IG just angry mob deciding their ( alderman ) fate. They should be very scared.
O/T New Blue Cross Blue Shield PPO Plan rates out for Non Medicare Eligible Retirees
Single Premium $2318.52 monthly
Couple Premium $4127.78 monthly
Family Premium $5728.28 monthly
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But Obama said insurance would be affordable ????
Maybe I shouldn't have voted Demo-crat ??
Obviously nobody got paid yet or it would have passed.
1:47pm gets it. Thank you for speaking my mind. I don’t care for Burnett, because he was a puppet for Rahm, but he is actually giving most of us what we want with that statement.
10.50 AM
Your figures are correct for the 2019 Blue Cross/Blue Shield PPO program for NON-MEDICARE CPD retirees. Now let's multiply by 12 months for the annual insurance rate:
INDIVIDUAL.........$2,318.52 x 12 = $27,822,24
PLUS SPOUSE....$4,127.78 x 12.= $49,533.36
PLUS FAMILY.......$5,728.28 x 12 = $68,739.36
Rahm Emanuel will force me to file for bankruptcy. I joined the CPD right after graduating from college with the understanding that the CPD benefits would provide lifetime medical coverage. I never worked a second job after joining the CPD. I do NOT qualify for Social Security or Medicare. After 30 years of honorable service, am I destined to survive on a diet of cat food? I already contributed $1,000.00 to the Clint Krislov litigation v. City. Underwood, et al. v. City
Any suggestions? This is outrageous and obscene. As you may recall, Emanuel "bragged" to a businessman about taking away our benefits.
O/T New Blue Cross Blue Shield PPO Plan rates out for Non Medicare Eligible Retirees
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For people who chose not to plan their retirement out properly they are probably going to get hit really bad. For those who were willing to spend a little money on a good financial planner, and I don't mean someone who sells mutual funds or life insurance, they are probably sitting pretty.
Anonymous said...
Had several dealings with Ald Burnett in the old 013th District. Never had an issue. Treated the police fairly in my experience. We have to be careful and not do what the libs do, paint everyone with the same brush when we don't know the specifics.
10/30/2018 01:47:00 PM
Me too. Many years ago in 018. He treated me like an equal.
If you’re close, start sweating.
From Bernstein Website:
The City of Chicago is currently planning to give the sergeants exam in 2019, and a lieutenants exam in 2020.
In order to prepare police officers for the new promotional exams, Bernstein Test Prep will be offering a comprehensive promotional exam training course.
Over the past 20 years, Bernstein students have consistently gotten the majority of the top CPD promotional exam scores! Picking the right review course for the new test is an important decision. The feedback from our students on our promotional review course has been extremely positive. You’ll want to go with a proven winner!
They’re going to have to give at least three months to study. Part 1, grade. Part 2,
grade. Manipulate the numbers for a couple of months. Sgt’s off new list fall of 2019.
This doesn’t even take into consideration all of the “consent decree” mandates.
There almost at 500. I’d bet another 200 off the current list.
INDIVIDUAL.........$2,318.52 x 12 = $27,822,24
PLUS SPOUSE....$4,127.78 x 12.= $49,533.36
PLUS FAMILY.......$5,728.28 x 12 = $68,739.36
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Perhaps a transfer to another city department is in order as opposed to retirement.
Anonymous CPD Retiree said...
10.50 AM
Your figures are correct for the 2019 Blue Cross/Blue Shield PPO program for NON-MEDICARE CPD retirees. Now let's multiply by 12 months for the annual insurance rate:
INDIVIDUAL.........$2,318.52 x 12 = $27,822,24
PLUS SPOUSE....$4,127.78 x 12.= $49,533.36
PLUS FAMILY.......$5,728.28 x 12 = $68,739.36
Rahm Emanuel will force me to file for bankruptcy. I joined the CPD right after graduating from college with the understanding that the CPD benefits would provide lifetime medical coverage. I never worked a second job after joining the CPD. I do NOT qualify for Social Security or Medicare. After 30 years of honorable service, am I destined to survive on a diet of cat food? I already contributed $1,000.00 to the Clint Krislov litigation v. City. Underwood, et al. v. City
Any suggestions? This is outrageous and obscene. As you may recall, Emanuel "bragged" to a businessman about taking away our benefits.
10/30/2018 09:19:00 PM
Suggestions shop around for different insurance,don't call visit the union hall don't be a goof and yell and scream at them, but sit down with someone they can give good advice and have other insurance companies they work with. FOP 1-312-733-7776
Vote no on any proposals for creating Civilian Police Accountability Commission.
Keep voting democrat
I'm no fan of aldermen, but Burnett, despite his juvenile history, has turned out to be a decent guy.
Well done, Alderman Burnett.
Let's see what'll happen when Kwame Raoul ,Toni Precekwinkle, and JB Pritzker wins office.
They'll be glad to put the police hating BLM, and communist/ Soros supporting Alliance Against Oppression and Racism in charge of police oversight.
To those on the job, plan for your retirement on day 1.
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