Sunday, October 07, 2018

Social Security Fairness

From the National Lodge:


Worth following...and it would certainly get us out of here quicker.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW! THAT WOULD BE GREAT! get my city pension and my full social security. which one is going broke first ya think?

10/07/2018 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Send a copy to president Trump.

10/07/2018 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes,thank you.

10/07/2018 01:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

May Congressman Rostenkowski ROT in HELL!

10/07/2018 05:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kinda funny how many draw Social Security without ever paying a dime into it.
Yet some of those who have paid their required time into it cannot.

10/07/2018 05:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The politicians vote themselves fantastic pensions with great raises while the workers go unfunded. It's only going to get worse. Rahm could care less about your pension, look what he did to the retirees.

10/07/2018 07:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It got voted down.

Rules Committee Record Vote No. 278
Motion by Mr. McGovern to make in order and provide the appropriate waivers for amendment #6 to H.R. 6760, offered by Rep. Brady (TX), which excludes the budgetary effects of the bill from being entered onto the Statutory Pay-As-You-Go Scorecard, as a standalone amendment, rather than self-executing it; amendment #2 to H.R. 6757, offered by Rep. Graves (LA), which repeals the Windfall Elimination Provision and Government Pension Offset Provision; and amendment #5 to H.R. 6760, offered by Rep. Pascrell (NJ), which repeals the $10,000 limit on the State and Local Tax Deduction. Defeated: 3–7

Majority MemberVote
Mr. ColeNay
Mr. WoodallNay
Mr. BurgessNay
Mr. CollinsNo Vote
Mr. ByrneNay
Mr. NewhouseNay
Mr. BuckNo Vote
Ms. CheneyNay
Mr. Sessions, ChairmanNay
Minority MemberVote
Mr. McGovernYea
Mr. HastingsYea
Mr. Polis

10/07/2018 07:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I left the job and eventually applied for SS I learned that I was going to get $4.00 a month! Worked as a kid paid into SS. Worked many part timers over the years, paid SS. Worked a part time job after leaving the dept, paid SS. I was supposed to get around $300 - $350 but after the off set provision/windfall lost a bit over 65%. Now I'm rolling in cash after 5yrs of working a good paying part time retirement job. After paying the Medicare costs, about $120, I now get $41.00 a month on the 3rd Wednesday of the month. Celebrate good times!

10/07/2018 07:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It should be given to those who paid into it only.

10/07/2018 07:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone knows They are going to shit can the pensions. Enjoy working to 63. Try not to get sent to prison.

10/07/2018 07:28:00 AM  
Blogger SpankDaddy said...

Don't forget to charge your phone. You are down to fifty seven percent.

10/07/2018 07:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW ! Think of all the money I will get if this passes. With the offset, I now receive $118.00 a month in Social Security. But wait, they take out $113.00 for Medicare, so that leaves me a whopping $5.00 a month direct deposited to my checking account on or about the 20th of every month. Oh, I was divorced after 20 years of marriage and was told I was not entitled to the benefits of my former spouse because I get a government pension. Thank you for this, National FOP.

10/07/2018 07:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank the democrats again for this one. Rostenkowski, who by the way went to jail himself for theft.

10/07/2018 07:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

where is the second page?

10/07/2018 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


The Rep introducing this is from Louisiana.

Looks like they're slashing pensions in Louisiana

I'm guessing this is a way to put a Band Aid over the bleeding.

10/07/2018 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the Democratic party gift that keeps on giving, I mean taking from you, thanks to Rostenkowski.

10/07/2018 08:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's hope that this comes someday. Retirees and widows are getting sick broke and dying every day waiting for this.

10/07/2018 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our current president has great respect and appreciates our military and police. I hope it crosses his desk soon and give our United States president what he deserves. FOUR MORE YEARS!!!!

10/07/2018 09:06:00 AM  
Blogger Cuthbert J. Twillie said...

I recall that 'WEP' Law passed in 1983, and the 'discussion' prior to it being passed by the DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED Congress.

The Democrats were like screaming banshees, whining and gnashing their teeth over retired 'government' employees 'Double-Dipping' into Social Security benefits when they hit Sixty-Five and retired for good.

Not too surprising the 'government employees' the Democrats were mostly whining about were retired Military personnel who spent 20-30 in the service and then had to get jobs in the private sector (f--king democrats always hated our military and the servicemen).

I didn't know it effected Police, and don't recall that being discussed at all. But since you are, this definitely needs correcting. Especially now, that Democrat controlled governments across the country are not paying into pensions, and are spending that money on vote buying schemes and Illegal Aliens!

Speaking of Illegals, don't know if many folks know this but thanks to Obama, Illegal Aliens CAN and ARE receiving Social Security Benefits. Lord Obama ruled that since they paid into Social Security -- even with PHONY SS Cards -- it was 'only fair' that they collect 'their' benefits. Forget the fact that 1) they aren't supposed to be here in the first fucking place, and 2) they Committed a Felony by using Phony / Fraudulent SS Cards!

Ergo, if criminal Illegal Aliens can collect SS Benefits, retired police who've paid into the SS System should get their benefits too!

10/07/2018 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh man now I’m gonna work 3 days of Vri and 3 days of cta a month and I’ll really be rich

10/07/2018 09:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More then half of your readers(scc) will still vote democratic, its a sad thing,no way in hell would a democrat come up with this....wake up people you need to vote republican....

10/07/2018 09:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The National FOP has tried this twice in the past with ZERO results. The only union that gets any attention is SEIU or AFSCAME. FOP is a paper tiger the republicans know that most coppers won't vote for a democrat so why give away a perk like all that extra Social Security money. Once again coppers get played for chumps and it's our own fault. Never trust a politician or media pimp. ♠️

10/07/2018 09:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please with this garbage..... politicians/lawmakers hate the police.... we ain't gettin' shit !
Thanks Rostenkowski!

10/07/2018 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All you public servants will eat your government cheese and cat food after retirement... and you will love it- or else !!!!

10/07/2018 09:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I emailed Mr. Canterbury awhile ago, about this, and how it’s a good time to pursue the repeal, with a great friend of law enforcement in the White House. Guess this is his answer to my email?;)

10/07/2018 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Never going to happen. This will open up SS to other modifications like extending the age to 67.

10/07/2018 10:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope and pray they’re successful.
It would right a terrible wrong that never should’ve happened in the first place.
I hope Rostenkowski rots in Hell and has Rahm as a roommate.

10/07/2018 10:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I’m not a huge Trump fan but I agree with the poster suggesting to send this to him.
Trump seems to be pro law enforcement and should be able to see how wrong this is.

10/07/2018 10:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Long freaking overdue. Let’s hope it gets addressed.

10/07/2018 10:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How bout the FOP start working on residency now. It’s obvious that much of the city hates us. Allow us to live wherever we want. Send our kids wherever we want to school. If I want to commute an hour to work everyday to be able to live in a farm, that should be my prerogative.

10/07/2018 10:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of this, our department is discriminating against officers that came on the job young. If you can on when you were 23, you have to work 32 years to get to the 55 free health care. While a person that came on at 35 only has to work 20. It’s not fair. They should have a provision in there either 55 years old “OR” a certain amount of years on, like say 25 or something to be eligible for the free healthcare. Us guys that came on young are getting penalized for it.

10/07/2018 10:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That rat Democrat Dan “cash for stamps” Rostenkowski screwed us on this deal.

10/07/2018 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you, finally !

10/07/2018 10:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Old White Hat said...

FYI - This was enacted through legislation proposed by the House Ways and Means Committee. The Chairman of that committee at the time was none other than the Old Stamp Thief Dan Rostenkowski. Another screwing applied by our friends in the Democrat Party. Tip O'Neil and Danny Boy Rostenkowski screwed the working man in more ways than you can describe. Pillsbury Fat Boy JB Prickster will carry on that tradition if elected.

10/07/2018 10:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I worked 19 years in CPD 29, And 29 years in the private sector.

10/07/2018 10:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For all you 3rd Congressional District retired coppers getting screwed out of your fairly earned SS payments please note that Rep. Dan Lipinski has not signed on as a co-sponsor. I guess all the illegal aliens on the city's southwest side collecting government cheese are more important to him.

10/07/2018 11:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great letter of intent with reasonable argument. I agree with the "send it to Trump" comment.

10/07/2018 11:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Years ago I spoke with Jan Schakoskiy's office and she indicated her support of repealing the windfall provision in it's entirety. This was over five years, since then absolutely nothing has been done to get the bill out of committee. May Rostenkowski burn in hell for this provision. I paid into the fund at full price I should get the full benefits.

10/07/2018 12:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

one huge fuck you to us made by Dan (Stamps) Rostenkowski before he his well deserved trip to Oxford, Wisconsin
I’m glad it’s finally being addressed

10/07/2018 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the real issue is that SS has a minimum benefit that often exceeds what people who work part time or for shorter periods of time would otherwise earn, and this provision was intended to get rid of that bonus for people otherwise covered by a government pension.

10/07/2018 12:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When you think about it the 1 responsible for taking this away was dirty, Illinois politician Danny rostenkowski the same pos who got caught stealing stamps and went to prison! Even then then hated the "rule of law" and anyone that enforces the laws they make! This would be a huge win for us hoping and praying this happens it would help out the retirees who "vicious rahm the ballerina" ruthlessly took away their health care!

10/07/2018 12:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know few P.O.s that worked side jobs their entire 30yr CPD careers, whether working at old man Gowers Pharmacy since after school or straight time CTA, CHA , security, etc thereafter. They’ll get full SS.

The Democrat Way:
You work a lot, they give more.
Welfare always increasing and they’re making it easier to obtain (even fraudulently) deadbeat entitlements.
And if you don’t know...it’s as much up to $750 -$1125 SSI in Illinois.
And if deemed disabled (physical or mental, can’t read, addictions,etc) you get more SSID, plus any chiltren, all said entitlements goes as high as $2689.

President Donald J. Trump has the support in both Houses for a repeal.
Heck, Executive Order would be ok for now.

“House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Kevin Brady (R-TX) and Ranking Member Richard Neal (D-MA) introduced H.R. 6933, the Equal Treatment of Public Servants Act of 2018. This legislation finally gets rid of Social Security’s Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) and replaces it with a new formula that makes sure that teachers, firefighters, police officers, and other public servants receive a Social Security benefit that is based on their actual work history.”

I believe Pres. Geo W. Bush and couldn’t muster the votes in Congress to advance it.
Then along came the welfare-food stamp president with skewed convictions who ignored the resolution yet expanded welfare entitlement and “free” healthcare for eight years.
Don’t expect a majority Illinois elected to be pushing for First Responder Social Security fairness, the Sanctuary comes first.

Theres no secret to Sanctuary Illinois ongoing financial clusterfuck of spending-spend-spending on deadbeats.
If there’s no money - there’s no pension. I hope I’m wrong.
LibWeasels like Durban and DuckWorthless are not reliable as are any Democrats that run the House.

Lastly - CPS needs to have their outdated pension contribution percentage increased to modern times, regardless of their weasel snake deal with Rotten Rahm before a WEP repeal ever happens.

10/07/2018 01:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe this amendment failed in committee and is not part of the bill. Nothing to see here. Move along.

10/07/2018 01:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's only fair the Rostenkowski rule was bullshit created to give more money to social security deadbeats and penalize government workers and than the asshole goes to jail for mail fraud

10/07/2018 01:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When is this vote ?

10/07/2018 01:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Citizen Richard said...

I don't care how they do it, but hoping that those of you who do the job get what is coming to you in a positive financial way.
Richard

10/07/2018 01:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I’m said this for years. We earned this money. Now is the time.... before “ Spartacus “ gets elected president.

10/07/2018 01:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You would think with the President being such a big supporter of police this would be a slam dunk. Time to put up or shut up.

10/07/2018 01:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Piece of Shit Rostenkowski May he rot in hell covered in stamps.

10/07/2018 02:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do not believe, that in the current financial condition of social security, that Congress would ever over turn the Windfall Provision Act. Never, no way. In fact, the talk is starting that it would be wise to apply that act to everyone, not just cops and make social security based on your income from all other sources. The fund is going broke as is medicare, much sooner then anyone thought.

10/07/2018 03:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you think ex commander Kenneth Johnson, The Seventh District Social Security Samurai, would endorse this proposal ?

10/07/2018 04:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This gets loads of sponsors each congress from both parties but never moves forward, they are just pacifying us, treating us like rubes look what we did for you, maybe next time

10/07/2018 04:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Speaking of this, our department is discriminating against officers that came on the job young. If you can on when you were 23, you have to work 32 years to get to the 55 free health care. While a person that came on at 35 only has to work 20. It’s not fair. They should have a provision in there either 55 years old “OR” a certain amount of years on, like say 25 or something to be eligible for the free healthcare. Us guys that came on young are getting penalized for it.

10/07/2018 10:21:00 AM

Are you NUTS! Do you realize how much this would cost! It use to be at age 62. Right after my husband put in his papers at 62 they dropped it to 55. Boy was he was pissed.

They basically did this to get rid of the "old" guys at the higher salary and keep the brainwashed newbies.

Just be glad that you are getting 10 free years of healthcare or any free healthcare.

10/07/2018 04:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Speaking of this, our department is discriminating against officers that came on the job young. If you can on when you were 23, you have to work 32 years to get to the 55 free health care. While a person that came on at 35 only has to work 20. It’s not fair. They should have a provision in there either 55 years old “OR” a certain amount of years on, like say 25 or something to be eligible for the free healthcare. Us guys that came on young are getting penalized for it.

10/07/2018 10:21:00 AM
Maybe you should have waited to come on the job then, before the change came on health care you had to work until you were 60 to get it so quite complaining and suck it up

10/07/2018 04:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe that if you pay into SSA for 30 years you won't be effected by the offset.

10/07/2018 05:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I got hit with the WEF after I retired. Amazingly enough the formula was so complex that the Woodstock, Illinois Socialist Security Office had nobody who could calculate how much I was going to lose. Apparently it was too complex for the Elgin Socialist Security Office, too. I finally managed to figure it out myself, and then got a call from a bureaucrat in Birmingham, Alabama, and his amount that I would lose was less than what I figured, so I said okay.

I have some annuities that change the amount I get each month on an annual basis. Nobody working for Socialist Security could tell me if I have to go through this bullshit every time my monthly amount changes.

10/07/2018 06:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I do not believe, that in the current financial condition of social security, that Congress would ever over turn the Windfall Provision Act. Never, no way. In fact, the talk is starting that it would be wise to apply that act to everyone, not just cops and make social security based on your income from all other sources. The fund is going broke as is medicare, much sooner then anyone thought.
10/07/2018 03:09:00 PM

Easily fixed get rid of the cap on Social Security tax make the rich pay their fair share!

10/07/2018 06:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do not believe, that in the current financial condition of social security, that Congress would ever over turn the Windfall Provision Act. Never, no way. In fact, the talk is starting that it would be wise to apply that act to everyone, not just cops and make social security based on your income from all other sources. The fund is going broke as is medicare, much sooner then anyone thought.

-- That's not the fault of the working people who are forced to pay into it every paycheck. We have 60% of the population in this country that does not work which leaves only 40% paying the bills. And it isn't the rich fat hogs like Jabba the Putz Pritzker that are even part of the 40% that contributes. The asshole politicians who brought in every backward American hating refugee and gave them and the illegals free medical, ss, and numerous other subsidies are to blame for the shortfall. Combine that with all the ghetto welfare scamming leeches who are paid to have kids they can't afford, then add to that those same kids that grow up are now collecting disability checks for asthma, ADD, or some quack diagnosed mental condition. Eliminate all that dead weight and we would have a solvent social security fund.

10/07/2018 07:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I think the real issue is that SS has a minimum benefit that often exceeds what people who work part time or for shorter periods of time would otherwise earn, and this provision was intended to get rid of that bonus for people otherwise covered by a government pension.

10/07/2018 12:18:00 PM
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You are wrong.

10/07/2018 07:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To get full Social Security benefits one must have accrued 30 years of Substantial Earnings. You can go to the SS website and download a substantial earnings spreadsheet. Unfortunately substantial earnings requirements are pretty steep. For 2018 you would need to earn nearly 25k in a job that you pay Social Security to reach the bar.

10/07/2018 07:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Easily fixed get rid of the cap on Social Security tax make the rich pay their fair share!

10/07/2018 06:44:00 PM

I would assume then the limit paid out in benefits would also be lifted. OMB documents in 2016 the top 20% of wage earners pay 94.8% of federal income taxes. Sorry your contribution from working at McDonalds really doesn't help.

10/07/2018 08:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I believe that if you pay into SSA for 30 years you won't be effected by the offset.

10/07/2018 05:30:00 PM

Partially true. You are right about 30 years but it has to be substantial contributions. You can’t just earn minimal wages for a short period every three months or minimal yearly contributions

10/07/2018 09:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@1:52pm

You would think. But his grand tax cuts cut any deductions POs could make for uniform/dues, etc...

But he and Rauner, they just love police!!

None of these people give two shits about us. R or D.

10/07/2018 10:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Speaking of this, our department is discriminating against officers that came on the job young. If you can on when you were 23, you have to work 32 years to get to the 55 free health care. While a person that came on at 35 only has to work 20. It’s not fair. They should have a provision in there either 55 years old “OR” a certain amount of years on, like say 25 or something to be eligible for the free healthcare. Us guys that came on young are getting penalized for it.

10/07/2018 10:21:00 AM
Maybe you should have waited to come on the job then, before the change came on health care you had to work until you were 60 to get it so quite complaining and suck it up

10/07/2018 04:57:00 PM

Oh that’s a great response, I should’ve came on later. “Just suck it up.” Why?? It is not fair. Just because it’s always been done that way means I shouldn’t challenge it or we shouldn’t try to improve it. It’s not fair. Why do I have to work 32 years to get the same benefit a guy in my academy class who came on older cam enjoy in 20 years. It’s age discrimination. They’re descrimating against me for coming on .... to young? Let’s reverse this and what if they said the guys that came on early, say 23 years old, could retire with full healthcare at 45 but the guys that came on at age 33 had to work till 65. It’s the exact same thing going on here. You’re not penalizing the guy for coming in late, but you’re penalizing the guy for coming on early. That’s why it should be 55 OR a certain amount of time on the job.

10/07/2018 11:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Speaking of this, our department is discriminating against officers that came on the job young. If you can on when you were 23, you have to work 32 years to get to the 55 free health care. While a person that came on at 35 only has to work 20. It’s not fair. They should have a provision in there either 55 years old “OR” a certain amount of years on, like say 25 or something to be eligible for the free healthcare. Us guys that came on young are getting penalized for it.

10/07/2018 10:21:00 AM

Are you NUTS! Do you realize how much this would cost! It use to be at age 62. Right after my husband put in his papers at 62 they dropped it to 55. Boy was he was pissed.

They basically did this to get rid of the "old" guys at the higher salary and keep the brainwashed newbies.

Just be glad that you are getting 10 free years of healthcare or any free healthcare.

10/07/2018 04:46:00 PM

So with your reasoning, your husband “should just have been glad he was getting any free healthcare” too? Why should we just be happy with whatever crappy deal the city gives us.
Instead, it has been improved on and more people are benefiting now and can get off this shitty job sooner. So why not make it fair across the board. Why can a guy with 20 years on get off the job with paid healthcare, but another guy with 20 years on that’s only 43 has to still work an extra 12 years to realize that same benefit. You don’t see how that is unfair?

10/07/2018 11:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was a guy in 23 many years ago who knew about all this.....anybody remember Brandon Medow.

10/08/2018 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The yea votes were Democrats.

10/08/2018 07:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yet Mayor Mumbles Daley, Rahm, Luberman, etc. can flitter from one government job to another, and are collecting how many pensions?
If these injustices don’t stop, I forsee a Mussolini moment in these corrupt politicians futures.

10/08/2018 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At this time the according to a site that tracks bills this only has a 4% chance of passing. That being said ALL police officers and firefighters with their families need to send a quick not to their Congressman and Senators stating they support this house bill. THere are over 800,000 police officers and 1.1 million firefighters in the U.S. (I know not all get a pension) so we have significant numbers to have an impact. Of course you can always complain and do nothing!

10/08/2018 08:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
You would think with the President being such a big supporter of police this would be a slam dunk. Time to put up or shut up.

10/07/2018 01:52:00 PM

Must be your failed public school education showing. The President doesnt make the laws, he just signs them. Contact your Congressman and Senator and tell them you support HB 1205 Social Security Fairness Act. Time to put up or shut up!

10/08/2018 08:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

An excuse for Chicago politicians to eliminate the city pension and pay into Social Security.

"After all, they are covered by Social Security."

10/08/2018 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I do not believe, that in the current financial condition of social security, that Congress would ever over turn the Windfall Provision Act. Never, no way. In fact, the talk is starting that it would be wise to apply that act to everyone, not just cops and make social security based on your income from all other sources. The fund is going broke as is medicare, much sooner then anyone thought.
10/07/2018 03:09:00 PM

Easily fixed get rid of the cap on Social Security tax make the rich pay their fair share!

10/07/2018 06:44:00 PM

Agreed. WEP is never going away. If anything they will think of some way to make it worse!

10/08/2018 09:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I believe that if you pay into SSA for 30 years you won't be effected by the offset.

10/07/2018 05:30:00 PM
That is correct but you must earn "Substantial Income" each of the 30 years. The penalty goes away little-by-little between 20 and 30 years of "substantial income". "Substantial income" amount goes up each year. Entire thing explained on SS website.

10/08/2018 09:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trump is speaking at Chiefs of Police Conference this week. He will say how much he loves law enforcement. Easy to say. Republicans control congress for at lease a few more months, hopefully longer, if he loves us, give us our Social Security benefits back.

10/08/2018 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dream on boys and girls, it's not going to happen.......................

10/08/2018 11:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Speaking of this, our department is discriminating against officers that came on the job young. If you can on when you were 23, you have to work 32 years to get to the 55 free health care. While a person that came on at 35 only has to work 20. It’s not fair. They should have a provision in there either 55 years old “OR” a certain amount of years on, like say 25 or something to be eligible for the free healthcare. Us guys that came on young are getting penalized for it.

10/07/2018 10:21:00 AM
Maybe you should have waited to come on the job then, before the change came on health care you had to work until you were 60 to get it so quite complaining and suck it up

10/07/2018 04:57:00 PM

Oh that’s a great response, I should’ve came on later. “Just suck it up.” Why?? It is not fair. Just because it’s always been done that way means I shouldn’t challenge it or we shouldn’t try to improve it. It’s not fair. Why do I have to work 32 years to get the same benefit a guy in my academy class who came on older cam enjoy in 20 years. It’s age discrimination. They’re descrimating against me for coming on .... to young? Let’s reverse this and what if they said the guys that came on early, say 23 years old, could retire with full healthcare at 45 but the guys that came on at age 33 had to work till 65. It’s the exact same thing going on here. You’re not penalizing the guy for coming in late, but you’re penalizing the guy for coming on early. That’s why it should be 55 OR a certain amount of time on the job.

10/07/2018 11:05:00 PM

And you will retire with a pension of 75%, while your classmate will retire with a pension of 50%. Are ya getting it now.

10/08/2018 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you all nuts? Free health carr is non existant in the private sector. Be happy with what you are blessed with.

10/08/2018 12:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why the hell did you take the job at 23. Should have enjoyed your youth instead of joining this shithole. Since your young you should be using your time to get a new job.

10/08/2018 12:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

32 years on, waiting for 55. Keeping me around is doing them no good, believe me.

10/08/2018 01:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Phil the Thrill said...

Democrat felon rostenkowski was behind this

10/08/2018 03:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Speaking of this, our department is discriminating against officers that came on the job young. If you can on when you were 23, you have to work 32 years to get to the 55 free health care. While a person that came on at 35 only has to work 20. It’s not fair. They should have a provision in there either 55 years old “OR” a certain amount of years on, like say 25 or something to be eligible for the free healthcare. Us guys that came on young are getting penalized for it.

10/07/2018 10:21:00 AM
Maybe you should have waited to come on the job then, before the change came on health care you had to work until you were 60 to get it so quite complaining and suck it up

10/07/2018 04:57:00 PM

Oh that’s a great response, I should’ve came on later. “Just suck it up.” Why?? It is not fair. Just because it’s always been done that way means I shouldn’t challenge it or we shouldn’t try to improve it. It’s not fair. Why do I have to work 32 years to get the same benefit a guy in my academy class who came on older cam enjoy in 20 years. It’s age discrimination. They’re descrimating against me for coming on .... to young? Let’s reverse this and what if they said the guys that came on early, say 23 years old, could retire with full healthcare at 45 but the guys that came on at age 33 had to work till 65. It’s the exact same thing going on here. You’re not penalizing the guy for coming in late, but you’re penalizing the guy for coming on early. That’s why it should be 55 OR a certain amount of time on the job.

10/07/2018 11:05:00 PM

And you will retire with a pension of 75%, while your classmate will retire with a pension of 50%. Are ya getting it now.

10/08/2018 12:00:00 PM

He has not figured that out let, he think he will get a full pension at 20 years what a dumb shit

10/08/2018 05:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not an apologist for Rostenkowski but after that bill passed it went before the president for his signature and rather than veto it he signed it, that president was one of my favorites, Ronald Reagan.

10/08/2018 05:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



 Anonymous said...

Do you think ex commander Kenneth Johnson, The Seventh District Social Security Samurai, would endorse this proposal ?

10/07/2018 04:22:00 PM

I think Kenneth Johnson had the right idea, stealing his mother's check for a decade. He knew that the Social Security Administration was screwing over officers. And you know what? He would have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for those meddling FEDS

10/08/2018 06:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As long as no one gets more out of social security than they paid in.

10/08/2018 08:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The politicians took that money we earned away from us to give to people who never worked. About time to change this theft act

10/09/2018 07:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why the hell did you take the job at 23. Should have enjoyed your youth instead of joining this shithole. Since your young you should be using your time to get a new job.

10/08/2018 12:31:00 PM

I'm sorry, I didn't have time to enjoy my youth at the adult age of 23. I, like most of the people my age, worked since I was 15.

Mommy and DaDa werent allowing me to play at 23.

10/09/2018 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And you will retire with a pension of 75%, while your classmate will retire with a pension of 50%. Are ya getting it now.

10/08/2018 12:00:00 PM

You do realize that you're not forced to retire at 55, right?

10/09/2018 11:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me help some of our lets say, not so sharp, brothers in blue.

If you get hired at 21, and max out (29yrs and a day) at 50yrs old, you still have to work 5 more years for "peanuts" to get health care.

The guy who gets hired at 26, maxes out at 55 with the same number of years on the job as the 50yr old, but he gets to retire with health care.

They each worked the same number of years, but the guy who gets hired older, gets rewarded.

Do you understand it now?

10/09/2018 12:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you understand don't take the job at 21 you should be happy that you will get insurance the new generation of PO'S nothing but cry babies give it a rest or quick and get a better job

10/09/2018 06:18:00 PM  
Anonymous KC said...

There needs to be a Democrat co-sponsor. What about Lipinski?

10/10/2018 06:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I retired at 63, started collecting my SS at 65. I had 26 years of social security paid in due to working part time jobs. I get $1090.00 per month and they take back $190 for that Rostenkowdki bill. After taxes and Medicare supplement I get 610 clear. Not bad but not great either.

10/10/2018 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting?

https://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=4116

Sen. Cruz Introduces Legislation to Improve Social Security Benefits for Teachers, First Responders, Law Enforcement, and Other Public Servants

10/11/2018 12:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
I retired at 63, started collecting my SS at 65. I had 26 years of social security paid in due to working part time jobs. I get $1090.00 per month and they take back $190 for that Rostenkowdki bill. After taxes and Medicare supplement I get 610 clear. Not bad but not great either.

10/10/2018 12:13:00 PM

That’s better than guys are saying. Most claim a 40 to 60 % reduction. Glad it worked out for you

10/11/2018 02:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why the hell did you take the job at 23. Should have enjoyed your youth instead of joining this shithole. Since your young you should be using your time to get a new job.

10/08/2018 12:31:00

Took this job when I was 21 and really enjoyed my life. Job used to be great. Hard to believe I looked forward to coming to work and I was working a beat car. Hard to explain to the new guys. It’s a shame things changed so much. Anyway good luck guys and gals

10/11/2018 02:59:00 PM  

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