Over-Training?
Anyone want to explain why a 14-week training course for new Marine Unit officers is entering it's 40th week? And how this is causing the Unit to operate short (at least) four dive-qualified personnel during the winter months when response times are of the essence?
Does some "merit" pick not know how to swim?
Does some "merit" pick not know how to swim?
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
65 Comments:
You don't expect me to dive into frigid cold water?
I mean we got the latest gadgets and doodads but
cold is cold. Hopes have been dashed and egos
shattered when officers were told they were responsible
for their own hot chocolate.
They’re training to be MD’s
I chased a guy into the lake at Oak Street beach this evening. He would hide under the ice for a bit and jump into one of the many watercrafts out on the lake this time of year. He'd boat jack the vessel and when we would get close, offender would do the bugs bunny underwater trick again. We were calling for the marine unit all along, but all we saw was cross country skiers and dog sleds on the deeply frozen body of water. How dare they train in the winter.
I can explain. Every new member of the Marine Unit must complete both the U.S. Marine Corps Amphibious Reconnaissance Course and the British Royal Marine Commando Course. They are hard as nails and in keeping with the finest traditions of the CPD.
The 1st Deputy's secretary can swim! So could the CPD officer who swam the English Channel twice. Beltran couldn't stand that someone was better than him. When you don't have clout, you gotta go.
Merit picks - remember that when you go vote.
You can end it - or perpetuate it.
Why's it entering Week 40 of 14? LOL. Two letters: A.S.
Meanwhile people that swam at a Division I college are still waiting. Sounds about right to me.
Does it really matter...
The CFD is the first responder saving somebody anytime their is a Lake Michigan Incident..
Just keep training and enjoy your spot... Stay in your little club house and let the Coast Guard and CFD handle business.
When it gets warm -n come out and patrol Navy Pier and make yourr contacts...
cry me two tears.
Because it is cold outside and the new snowflakes demand warmer water. They are not stupid.
Question for marine unit. Are they allowed to chase in boat? No more safety checks I guess.
No they are all having trouble figuring where lake is in relation to their current locations. They are all compass challenged. Also some issues with confusing boat controls. Heard two were allergic to sun and water.
They must have run out of those rubber ducky pool floats.
Speaking of training, why is everyone being forced to take LEMART training and I don’t want to hear it’s to help your fellow officers bulls**t. It’s so we are forced to to save some s**tbird on the street.
think i picked a wrong time to train dumbasses.
where did i put my bong.
Doesn’t matter to the new people or the ones there now. The CFD is taking over functions on the lake and river anyways. They are the darlings of public safety. Even though small, the coast guard and conservation police will control “police” functions on the water way. The fire department has been working to take over all other functions for years now adm know that this messed up situation is out there they have their additional ammo.
Now that this embarrassment is out, it is the finally blow to the unit. That unit has been constantly having their budget and manpower reduced for years. The unit is fucked now just like the SWAT unit. You make the department look bad and incompetent then they will fuck with you.
The Chicago Marine Unit is following the path of the city......Boats only turn Portside now..
If I was your whack, would I put you somewhere that iknow your unqualified to do, only if I’m useless too I’m guessing.
I recall when the officer that swam the "triple crown of open water swimming" - google it - I recall when he was denied a spot in the Marine Unit.
This Dept is so stupid.
Anonymous said...
Meanwhile people that swam at a Division I college are still waiting. Sounds about right to me.
2/26/2019 02:43:00 AM
YOU SWAM AT A D-1 SCHOOL?!?!?
Nobody cares dude!!! You must 5 minutes on the job, because you still think that experience counts for something!!! If you haven’t figured it out yet, unless you know somebody, you’ll be waiting you whole career trying to get something you’re never gonna get. Just look at the command staff!!! Not one of them has any policing experience!!! Yet they’re the people calling the shots and putting THEIR people in the Marine Unit. Quit your dreamin’ and answer your radio!!!
Then you see something like this, what is going on with the madness now parents are not telling children if they are male or female but letting them decide what they want to be:
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/theybies-some-parents-raising-their-babies-gender-neutral
Everybody:
U do not have to be a swimmer / (Michael Phhelps) to be in the Marine unit.
Its a must to be comfortable.
Remember CFD and Coast Guard handle 95% of all water related rescues anyway...
The CFD is the first responder saving somebody anytime their is a Lake Michigan Incident..
Just keep training and enjoy your spot... Stay in your little club house and let the Coast Guard and CFD handle business.
When it gets warm -n come out and patrol Navy Pier and make yourr contacts...
cry me two tears.
A reliable source informed me that when beat boats are down, "pool" boats make marine patrol super duper difficult.
OOooHhhh-OOooHhhh-OOooHhhh-OOooHhhh! I want to be a Marine Unit Officer...!
let CFD be the heroes.........
get plenty of sunscreen for the summer.
get a good camera lens
---> Anonymous Anonymous said...
I can explain. Every new member of the Marine Unit must complete ... the British Royal Marine Commando Course. ....
2/26/2019 01:03:00 AM <---
Ha-ha-ha, now that's funny.
They are hiding in school until the winter is over. Don't they send some of the unit back to other units in the winter?
What happened to the CFD Marine Unit Commander? He used to appear at ALL lakefront incidents. He hasn’t been seen for months.
They slow.
SpecialEd short bus slow, 40 weeks at 8.5 hrs a day is exhausting just thinking about it.
I like to dive but I don’t do water, yet somehow must be qualified.
If you don’t know how to “swim” after 14 or 40 weeks of training then you’ve got no business being in that unit.
Of course logic would tell you that non swimmers should never be selected in the first place merit or not.
Who am I kidding? When’s the last time CPD followed logic?..... especially with their merit picks.
I remember when Nial was told after tryouts for Marine unit that he wasn’t qualified.
Nial was an extremely accomplished swimmer: he’d swam Lake Michigan and The English Channel.
The media eventually got wind of this joke selection process and Nial became qualified and part of the Marine Unit.
Milt = R. Kelly
OT here but word is in 2020 platoon policing is back and change in schedule start times to the “Old” schedule:
2nd Watch 0700 & 0800 hrs to 1500 and 1600 hrs with desk crew 0600 to 1400 hrs
3rd Watch 1500 & 1600 hrs to 2300 and 0000 hrs with desk crew 1400 to 2000 hrs
1st Watch 2300 & 0000 hrs to 0700 and 0800 hrs with desk crew 2200 to 0600 hrs
Keeping the 4 on 2 off........
Maybe we could use those copper is on the street but then again With the bullshit consent decree and with what Pathetic LaShawn Ford (you know the guy who beat major federal charges hmm wonder why they let this big fish walk possibly now wired up hope so)is trying to push that bullshit thing we will be seeing more and more of this more and more shooting more and more killings and the Democrats will sit back and get fat laugh and just throw your money away they could care less about everyone here simple as that except if you can vote that’s why they will let the illegals come in and it looks like the city clerk Anna one of the masterminds of the city key ID card which is for the illegals so they can vote which is totally illegal anyway Chicago is finished cook county is finished the feds really really need to dig and hard stop with the bullshit of only grabbed one or two of them grab them a scoop up at least 50 send Them to the federal penitentiary is a soon as possible that’s where they need to go that is the only way to stop the crime wave!
CFD / DNR / & COAST GUARD are the ones that handle everything on Lake anyway.
I agreeee - just keep training / make contacts at the PIER and drive around and waste citys gas when u get bored of sitting in your club house.
Only true diverr in that unit is Neil S****** E*
Perhaps it is the commander who should answer that question, but he would just feed a line of BS to the Deputy on down.
Not a Gold Star said...
Merit picks - remember that when you go vote.
You can end it - or perpetuate it.
2/26/2019 01:39:00 AM
merit will never end. Everybody who is elected has the same question when they take office, " where is mine?"
I try my best not to over sleep during my tour. Somebody please pull my finger...
I wonder how many guys in that unit owe their promotion to eddie burke
I hope ed burke loses the election today
I heard from a source that the unit is waiting for a guest speaker name David hasselhoff to show the officer how to swim against those large lake Michigan waves.
The fucking cry babies at the Marine Unit should be thankful they are where they are. Coppers LOVE to fucking bitch about a lack of training until there is training. Then it's early ducks and long lunches occupying their minds. KK should be ashamed of himself for being a 50 some year old baby. MB too. You're going to be mad about a lack of standards until there's a standard you're expected to meet. Fuck outta here...
It's like they do this shit on purpose to piss off us non-clouted.
Then they wonder why there is zero proactive policing going on.
I'm hiding in the Bat-cave and only coming out to answer my calls.
Unplug the Bat-phone Alfred, Gotham City and Commissioner Gordon are on their own.
Anonymous said...
I can explain. Every new member of the Marine Unit must complete both the U.S. Marine Corps Amphibious Reconnaissance Course and the British Royal Marine Commando Course. They are hard as nails and in keeping with the finest traditions of the CPD.
2/26/2019 01:03:00 AM
This city is will never learn. The Marine Unit and the Swat Team are a joke.
Yeah, exposing a scam isn’t the Chicago Way of doing things.
Your mentality is what needs too “Fuck outaa here...” goof
Anonymous said...
The fucking cry babies at the Marine Unit should be thankful they are where they are. Coppers LOVE to fucking bitch about a lack of training until there is training. Then it's early ducks and long lunches occupying their minds. KK should be ashamed of himself for being a 50 some year old baby. MB too. You're going to be mad about a lack of standards until there's a standard you're expected to meet. Fuck outta here...
2/26/2019 03:58:00 PM
Lt.B.K from 25dist second watch making fun of C.P.D. officers today about how un discipline we are. After he was listening to the Aurora P.D. tapes. The same guy who ran away from a man with a gun. October can't come fast enough for you to retire.
Rubber Duckie
The bottom line is swimming doesn't have shit to do with scuba diving ! Some of the fastest swimmers in this unit are the worst divers or better yet afraid to dive or have a very minimal number of dives since they've been in the unit. This unit never had any standards to speak of and the only way to make it legit is to have an outside agency instruct and follow a real public safety diver cirriculum ! They canned all the legitimate instructors who had more experience and knowledge than the current ones . As they say " Those who can do, and those who can't teach "! With all the Lt's that are eligible for Captains they need to put one in charge of this unit , instead of one who is trying to juggle the mounted and helicopter units along with this one. And 40 weeks of training with weekends off is fucking ridiculous by any standard. They started with 15 new people and are down to about 8 and washed a female out in the last week which is crazy ! She made it the whole way and they dumped her now ? I hope she lawyers up and has a great beef against the circus shes been a member of since last June !
Once Nial was put in the marine unit, they made his life miserable because he pushed for routine training and wrote a terrific rigorous program.
Hey 3:58 , you get the fuck outta here because you must be a scammer !
We should get rid of all the police and use the honor system
There was a time 059 was real real good.
Yes niall could swim. But he was an asshole to his superiors. He deserved what he got
They started with 15 new people and are down to about 8 and washed a female out in the last week which is crazy ! She made it the whole way and they dumped her now ? I hope she lawyers up and has a great beef against the circus shes been a member of since last June !
Those of us training for the circus already know at least two of the training staff have been served at corporation council. Never a dull moment.
They should train. It’s extremly hard to dive in the city water. Ask stoffregen and bucio who passed while diving. If it were up to me they would not only train here with the city for several months but I would also send them off to a few weeks to train with the coast guard divers who are highly skilled and among the best.
Speaking of training, why is everyone being forced to take LEMART training and I don’t want to hear it’s to help your fellow officers bulls**t. It’s so we are forced to to save some s**tbird on the street.
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Read your consent decree. Ding ding ding. Yes. You are now going to be required to render LEMART aid ASAP on scene until the pros arrive.
I seriously don't get this whole argument. Having taken scuba lessons and having gone diving, and finally decided I did not like it (especially after knowing a regular diver who died of the bends), I don't get what takes so long. Either you know what you are doing, or you don't. Not real difficult. BTW, I know a licensed pilot that was denied for the helicopter!!! Sorry, but the CPD, routinely rewrites the weighting factors to fit who "they" want to get into any spot that is open. FACT\
AS is coming to fix that unit back to the way she had it. Good luck
There is a marine unit retiree who was a Master Chief in the U.S. Navy and a Navy hardhat diver. He was the real deal and a great boat operator . There is also a current member who was a commercial diver and paramedic with a suburban Fire Dept. These two have more experience and knowledge than the current instructors, but as it goes with this unit, department and whole corrupt city a resume may as well go in the shredder !
Making a return visit will be Captain AS.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I can explain. Every new member of the Marine Unit must complete both the U.S. Marine Corps Amphibious Reconnaissance Course and the British Royal Marine Commando Course. They are hard as nails and in keeping with the finest traditions of the CPD.
2/26/2019 01:03:00 AM
Thanks for the laugh
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Speaking of training, why is everyone being forced to take LEMART training and I don’t want to hear it’s to help your fellow officers bulls**t. It’s so we are forced to to save some s**tbird on the street.
2/26/2019 04:53:00 AM
Why would you be surprised that officers be taking LEMART training ? Of course it’s not just to help your fellow officers. It’s to assist citizens and sometimes they are idiots.
Mister Christian! I will see you hang from the highest yard in her majesty's fleet if I have to row this dinghy all the way back to England !
I was at the show and tell at the academy this past week and there was an officer there from the marine unit. He explained what their function was and that he was one of the instructors. I thought geeez this guy looks like he should be in a nursing home, he looked feeble and sort of like Monty Burns from the Simpsons. I saw him outside later taking a smoke break, and thought to myself that can't be too healthy if you're a scuba diver .
Does some "merit" pick not know how to swim?
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You can not graduate HS and most every college without passing a swimming test. Oh. Asked and answered I guess.
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