FOID Card "Unconstitutional!
This is going to the Illinois Supreme Court, and probably the US Supreme Court. From the Illinois Carry website:
- This is a case in my own circuit court that we have been monitoring for the past year. The court ruled the FOID Act unconstitutional in regards to the licensing and taxing requirement to be in possession of a firearm or ammunition in your own home. The IL Attorney General has appealed the case to the IL Supreme Court.
Cliff notes: Lady with a clean record, in possession of a single shot, bolt action rifle .22 in the home for personal protection. No FOID but otherwise eligible for a FOID. Judge ruled requiring a license and charging a fee/tax to exercise a Constitutional right in the home unconstitutional.
We were in contact with the attorney for this case and discovered he was retiring and will not be representing Ms. Brown at the IL Supreme Court level. We have sought legal representation for Ms. Brown and believe the case will be in good hands. More news to follow!
Sounds like a bunch more taxpayer money to be wasted courtesy of the democrats coming up soon!
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
54 Comments:
In all of the 1920s-1930s American Gangster, no where
will you find a single action, bolt operated .22 rifle
Not in the Godfather Trilogy, Not in Goodfellas, Not in
Heat
Triple damages for violation of Civil Rights, right on!
Where’s the aclu? Hiding with General Coward Ralph Price?
I hope you hooked her up with good legal representation because I'm tired of this socialist one party state disregarding the damn Constitution of the United States...
Don’t you worry, Chicongo will certainly enact an “ordnance” that will require a foid for law abiding citizens. Criminals are exempt as usual.
I'm saving my pennies for the free speech license but spent most of the money I had saved for a TSA pre pass.
No fee FOID,
The NRA may be able to help.?
From my cold dead hands!
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2019/03/luis-valdes/new-zealand-police-forced-shut-down-confiscation-website-due-to-dos-attack/
Meh.. the democrats will raise the tax on something else— not rolling paper, cigarillos, needles or syringes tho— can’t tax those; might tick off the voter base
Foid and carry permit is ALL unconstitutional. This was undeniable the day Otis and friends beat Little Lisa and her gang of thugs in the Supreme Court.
The right to keep and bear arms cant be curtailed and doled out like a permission anymore.
Get ready for open carry to come to this state. Its only a matter of time now. Get ready for suppressors and select fires too, cuz the whole garbage stack of lies is coming apart at the seams.
Its about time. Now innocent people can stop fearing the police. Understand your own responsibility in disarming the innocent people yet?
Wake up and join we the people, before its too late.
Speaking of wasting money, the mueller investigation into donald trump cost 25 million dollars. The 2 shithead football players who couldn't stand for the national anthem got 20 million from the nfl. Chicago was also feeling the love, paying out 5 million dollars to the family of a man who was shot and killed by the police 5 years ago after pointing a gun at them.
Illinois residents are required to show a FOID card and State id to buy ammo.
Ha!
Hooray. Sanity returning? Hopefully.
This sounds good, but the Devil's in the details. The decision relies on a part of the 14th amendment that only Clarence Thomas is solidly on record as supporting as written and intended. Maybe Gorsuch and Kavenaugh, maybe not.
I want my money back with interest that I paid for my FOID card twice.
You watch.....the dems will increase the cost of having one to 100.00 to promoted anti violence laws
I was in 019 the other day and saw a snowflake with a t-shirt that read "void the foid"
Never could understand why you had to pay for a right granted to you in the constitution? Just like the proposed state registration scheme our new dem legislature is proposing. Register and pay a fee. Again why should you have to pay for a right granted to you by God and guaranteed in the Constitution.
The fuckin Demorats sit around and dream up shit and how they can screw with the citizens!
Start every day with a prayer. Learn the law,know your rights mind your OWN business gun the fuck up and shut the fuck up. Stay alert really alert do not let anyone approach you by surprise because if you see it coming you can react. Do not be on the receiving end of “ the element of surprise”! Protect yourself and your family.
She didn’t have a silencer on that rifle did she? Go girl.
I'm always encouraged by how many American street cops are such defenders of the Second Amendment. My motto has always been when seconds matter the law is minutes (at best) away. I wish I could say the same for Chiefs and Supes whose butts are jammed with the hands of fuckin politicians who, remarkably, are always walking around with armed security.
The right to keep and bear arms cant be curtailed and doled out like a permission anymore.
Hold your horses son. State Senator Julie Morrison who represents portions of Cook and Lake county has introduced a bill to ban any rifle that has AR, AK, or SU in its description. Any firearm with a detachable magazine that holds more that 10 rounds would be banned as well. Possession of such a firearm would be a felony with a 10 prison sentence. The law would also require registration of firearms owned by people after passing the law but the above described rifles would be banned and they must be turned in for destruction with no compensation. The bill is in committee and with the looney bin Democrats running the Illinois circus anything could happen.
I’d like to see the statistics on how many are charged, found or plead guilty, paid fines and/or did time for NO FOID...just in Cook County.
Law abiding citizens are most likely getting tagged for penalties and flagged for future confiscations.
Loon Durban, DuckWorthless, Quackers Quigley et al along with Kalamazoo RatTool will fight any Constitutional right.
There’s more to why Democrat packed the courts with their likeminded friends besides protecting their corrupt enterprises.
They’ll have to do something real soon since ambulance chasing attorneys are blaming the short staffed ISP for crazed violent shooters having FOID’s. Revenue chasing IL politicians are more likely raise the fee to $100 for an FOID before they abolish it.
The violent feral will always be exempt and unaccountable as the corrupt politician.
And as for NZ, look at their pathetic kooky leader and the dimwit U.S. Democrat politicians all cheering her.
Glad we don’t have a Hillary?
Stock up and never surrender.
Molon Labe
I went to a Walmart in Wisconsin a box of federal 100 rounds 9mm brass,17 dollars and 5 % tax.
- A Missouri state representative is trying to make a point by introducing legislation mandating the ownership of an AR-style rifle by all eligible state residents.
Rep. Andrew McDaniel introduced HB 1108. Known as the “McDaniel Militia Act,” the bill would require all residents of Missouri who are not prohibited from possessing a firearm by law or court order and who are between the ages of 18 and 35 to purchase an AR-15 or “any semi-automatic rifle that is modeled on the AR-15 rifle design by ArmaLite, Inc.”
And...
- The proposed law provides for A TAX CREDIT to offset the cost of purchasing the AR-15. The bill does not contain any provisions imposing penalties on residents who fail to comply with the purchase requirement.
I did not think that you needed a FOID in your own home... ini fact I was told by my FTO's etc that you did not need one. The question remains... if I am a guest in the home and the FOID holder is gone, am I subject to arrest because they have a gun in the home that I might not have access to i.e. in a safe? I would like to see what the PC was for the arrest...................
Result might be that you can’t be charged a fee for the FOID card and that if the weapon is in your home you won’t be required to possess a FOUD card , but not sure anything else will happen
It appears the state asked for additional time to file briefs and the court granted that request.
On the off chance that mike madigan allows the court to make the right decision, I will enjoy the howls of protest around the state as they claim the streets will run red with the blood of innocents.
Definitely agree how many of the thugs/illegals shooters have this card anyway? the foid is not constitutional law,it is a fabricated made up law to appease the democrats in this corrupt state nothing more!
Why do you need to qualify yourself for a right you've had since 1791?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm saving my pennies for the free speech license but spent most of the money I had saved for a TSA pre pass.
3/25/2019 12:34:00 AM
And the libs won't allow voter ID cards because........? come on, because......? That's right, because you can't charge someone for a right.....
There are at least 30 Red States that are better to live in than Illinois!
Time to move permanently!
Fuck FOID. It is the most despicable piece of gatbage I’ve ever had to possess.
Should be unconstitutional that this head of public schools is still employed,hundreds of children raped sexually assaulted and her and the crew with her are not indicted or fired more for the feds,children's civil rights violated and This hmm:
CPS principals get school budgets for next year
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/cps-school-budgets-chicago-public-schools-funding/
Then you see this mismanagement:
Per-student spending is up 2.5 percent across the district next year, but that money will pay for teacher salary increases. Overall, school budgets are set to increase by $55 million over this school year, officials said.
Teachers getting raises,rahm closed over 60 schools,then is spending 10's of billions in the family and friends program building new ones (Give me that manila envelope stuff it full), Students are down over 150,000 why do we need all these worthless teachers? Why also do they contribute such a paltry amount to their bloated pensions? We could easily terminate 1500 teachers and still produce the same dismal graduation rates right? Lori another house to clean up, don't forget thanks for contacting your "federal partners" who are happy to assist in the biggest cesspool of swampy corruption in the entire USA!
I’m going to guess that the number of “community members” charged with possession of a firearm without a FOID card is in the single digits.
Call the FOP and get Dan Herbert or Perry Mason on the case asap!
Never could understand why you had to pay for a right granted to you in the constitution? Just like the proposed state registration scheme our new dem legislature is proposing. Register and pay a fee. Again why should you have to pay for a right granted to you by God and guaranteed in the Constitution.
Until, McDonald v The City of Chicago, the Second Amendment was not a fundamental right. Thanks Daley for pushing that to SCOTUS. The Second Amendment applies to the states. Also, due to Heller v. Washington DC you a have a right to bear arms outside of the house (this ruling originally only applied to the Federal government until McDonald). Thanks Democratic- controlled Washington DC for this ruling.
One of the most fucked up ways to get $10.00, while the out of state folks just show their out of state DL
The people and folks do not need FOID. Only law abiding citizens. It’s very clear now that the permanent victim class now controls Chicago and Illinois. White people need not apply. It’s going to get ugly.
Hmm wonder if the supposed shooter here had a foid card? Lets see anti-police calloway his office gets shot up and he calls police hypocrite what are the odds he had his boys do it,calloway said they were all inside and no one got hit! Sounds like a bunch of typical peoples/folks lies!
Shots fired at Calloway campaign office in South Shore
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/william-calloway-shots-fired-campaign-office-west-englewood/
Just hoping the coppers are not wasting valuable resources bothering with this nonsense. Give him his report,call an et and move along, this clown just wanted tv time from our dishonest fake media maybe they can look into collusion with this calloway moron?
Since when do I need permission from the government to exercise my GOD given right to keep and bear arms?
I'm afraid the time is fast approaching that the tree of liberty will need be watered. These assholes in office have forgotten that they are there to serve and represent us, not govern over us.
Join the NRA today:
nra.org
The Second Amendment was adopted on December 15, 1791. It reads:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Anonymous said...
There are at least 30 Red States that are better to live in than Illinois!
Time to move permanently!
3/25/2019 12:33:00 PM
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Funny it is, the liberals who love to talk about peoples (and folks) rights always seem to be leading the charge to curtail those rights.
According to them the only people (and folks) who should have any rights are atheist illegal criminals of color who have been de-weened. The rest of us morons, you know - the ones who actually work and obey the law - are up the Chicago River without a parking meter contract.
I can't seem to figure out if Liberals were put on this planet solely for our amusement or they actually believe their own BS.
Back in the mid 1980s LEOs did not need FOID cards to purchase and possess duty related firearms and ammo.
W/C announced one day at roll call that the Department was now requiring officrrs to have FOIDs.
Since we now had a contract with a 'First Issue'clauss, someone asked if the Department was going to pay for the card. At that time it was $5 for 5 years.
State law was changed.
Anonymous said...
Why do you need to qualify yourself for a right you've had since 1791?
3/25/2019 11:50:00 AM
BINGO!!
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
To keep: ownership, possession
To bear: to have on ones person, to carry
Shall not: cannot,must not,will not
If FOID is ruled unconstitutional(and it is) this will pave the way to constitutional concealed carry, why do I have to pay for a right?? I do not have to pay for a permit or license to read a book or go to place of worship now do I???
I want all my FOID fees refunded. Maybe a class action suit?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I want all my FOID fees refunded. Maybe a class action suit?
Great idea. Go for it. Let the blog know when you filed it
How about having Herbert represent here. Maybe she’ll get life.
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