Groot Takes on Teachers
- Chicago Public School teachers are one step closer to a possible strike after rejecting the city's latest contract offer.
CPS increased its offer to teachers after a recommendation from an independent fact finder, but the union rejected the fact finder's report, setting the state for a potential strike if a deal isn't reached in the next 30 days.
Mayor Lori Lightfoot welcomed CPS teachers back to their classrooms Monday, and is hoping they will have a new contract by the time school starts on September 3. The city is sweetening the deal by upping its offer of a 14 percent raise over the next five years to 16 percent.
Coming a few days before Groot's "state of the city" address, the CTU is playing chicken with a weak mayor who is about to break bad news all over Chicagoans.
This might actually work out for the FOP if Groot's speech attempts to blame the police, but here are the teachers turning down 14%. The FOP ought to have a few press releases or such to point out the greedy teachers are turning down a sizable percentage AND still only pay a tiny fraction of what everyone else does to the sickly pensions.
This might actually work out for the FOP if Groot's speech attempts to blame the police, but here are the teachers turning down 14%. The FOP ought to have a few press releases or such to point out the greedy teachers are turning down a sizable percentage AND still only pay a tiny fraction of what everyone else does to the sickly pensions.
Labels: city politics
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
73 Comments:
FOP had better start at a 16% raise
All I can remember is 1 and 2 percent...
I am really fucking dissatisfied.
I posted the same opinion here last weekend. That we are in a good position to defend our rights and that JCat might be the right person at this point in time.
The teachers union is greedy and unrealistic. They always strong arm the city and get big fat raises. The FOP better ask for 16%
The teachers can strike and parents in the working class areas need their marxist indoctrinating baby sitters will inconvenience the parents, requiring them to get childcare because both parents are gainfully employed to pay the ever skyrocketing property taxes to fund our city government. In the ghetto, the free babysitters will inconvenience baby mama with having to watch her children for a few extra days, interrupting mommies masters degree studies. Of course, the teachers aren't happy with 15% over 5 years. Sheeeeet, where can I get one of those?
""We need to see the schools commit to hiring social workers, librarians, counselors, people who work in special education classrooms," Sharkey said."
Social workers/counselors/people who work in special education classrooms are not the same position?
You can run a nightclub and hire a coat check girl and also a girl who will greet patrons and accept their coats and in return give the patrons a ticket which later can be exchanged to get the same coat given back when the patron is ready to exit.
My wife is a teacher and I hope the teachers get as much as they can! If police are getting nothing except a fuck you, my family will need the raise to keep ahead.
WOW!
"Mayor Lori Lightfoot welcomed CPS teachers back to their classrooms Monday, and is hoping they will have a new contract by the time school starts on September 3. The city is sweetening the deal by upping its offer of a 14 percent raise over the next five years to 16 percent."
I counter with this, CPS Teachers:
When will American schools catch up with the technological revolution?
https://spectator.us/american-schools-technological-revolution/
FOP outta dip into petty cash and hire a skwriter pilot to paint the sky with:
"Police will take the deal teachers refused"
Groot will cave to the CTU soon enough and give them MEGABUCK$!
Give how the number of students have declined and will further decline given people are not making love and abortion is up 10 fold... why does CPS need an increase vs the money could be reallocated. An I getting this wrong
Less students = less teachers
Less teachers = no increase in tax money
I must be getting this wrong along with how CC jail need more money, even though number of assholes in custody is split in half
"Both sides said they are committed to continuing talks."
Groot is very direct in her willingness to meet ongoing demands from the Chicago Teacher's Union. Groot in contrast gets very cryptic about other contracts in the works.
When asked what she intends to fully give to the Chicago Police Department, the mayor only replied:
8===D
The 3 unions better get there asses in gear and let the city know that they will be irrevocably harmed since their children will not be attending school and they are held captive by their parents employment and mandatory residence. Every officer who has a child in CPD will need to ensure their child’s safety by taking family leave. Crimes is down and season weather has no affect on crime so the city should fair well without officers on family leave.
Groot will fight tooth and nail to keep the final settlement to less than 25% for five years.
Teachers have it too good no one in the private sector has benefits or raises close to these teachers.
This will be the third strike in seven years by the Communists Teachers Union. Mind you the state law doesn't allow them to strike for wages but he we are, with them demanding more or they will walk. The shit head teachers, who are the highest paid in the nation and only pay two percent into their pension actually feel they are not respected enough and want more. The greed is disgusting and it just shows what a bunch of liberal assholes can do when they just utter the words "strike". Meanwhile the rest of us are looking at a possible paycut because we have zero leverage thanks to the state law not allowing us to strike and no law that demands the city bargain in good faith.
Can I be the first (of many) on here to say, F*** the teachers!
We'll just have to get 16% ourselves now won't we
Of course the Munchkin will cave in and give them what they want..No way does she want a strike on HER watch since she is already getting a "D" on her latest report card. I'm actually glad that the city residents are waking up and seeing that their vote for the little dictator was the wrong one!!! The nail in her coffin will be ANY tax increases and she knows it, no campaign promises fulfilled yet, violence is still up but yet shes always out of town....more like "OUT OF TOUCH"!!!! Looking forward to the bullshit on the 29th. By the way, since there is a hiring freeze is the NEW academy still a go?
Not LEO here, but what does the FOP even do? It’s like they don’t exist. In the sixties and seventies I remember they had quite a presence on the Chicago evening news fighting for their membership. It’s pitiful.
Which means the CTA pension fund will be another 16% behind in four more years since the pension payouts will be 16% or more higher. LOL as they continue to dig the hole even deeper.
FOP had better start at a 16% raise
8/27/2019 12:10:00 AM
4% per year! First time I'll gladly say RETRO!
The enemy of my enemy is my friend? Not necessarily. I do not want to be friends with the communist CTU, but watching them trying to mess with LL will be interesting.
The city increased their offer to 16%. But we’re the greedy ones.
What do they chip in for pensions? 2%? Summers off too. That’s a great part time job.
Groot’s true colors will show when she moves forward with a pay CUT offer for police despite touting that “crime is down”....half CPS students can’t spell their own name and she’s offering them 16%??? Unreal
Key points to not ignore: 1. CTU endorsed Preckwinkle, not Lightfoot, so animus was already in place between CTU and Lori. 2. Lightfoot's hatred of the Chicago Police will for this brief period be diminished, because now she has a new "scapegoat." Let them strike, it will take the Heat off of CPD and force the City to accept a realistic
and higher settlement for the police. Every day makes the Retro check bigger! Stay Safe and Strong. Baby "G"
Teachers think and vote like she does. 'Nuff said.
Comment at 04:32, i second it!
Teachers can do one thing that the rest of us can’t, they can strike! The teachers will get a lot of what they want.
""We need to see the schools commit to hiring social workers, librarians, counselors, people who work in special education classrooms," Sharkey said."
That sounds like the Union is trying to increase the size of their bargaining unit which would be considered a "permissive subject of bargaining" and if that were the only item that the two sides couldn't agree on, a strike based on that one item would be an illegal strike (per the NLRB).
There are three types of subjects of bargaining: mandatory subjects(wages, benefits, work rules, etc.), illegal subjects (we don't want any women in the union, etc.), and permissive subjects (increasing the size of a bargaining unit, internal union affairs, etc.). The bargaining parties can talk about permissive subjects but there can't be a strike or lockout over those types of subjects.
Look it up.
I have to believe Groot knows this but she is pretty stupid so you never know. Sharkey seems pretty sharp so I'm guessing he is aware of this issue. Groot would need to bargain and settle on every issue except this issue of hiring social workers, etc. Then let CTU strike and she can run them into the ground.
Here is a solution if the so called teachers of CPS want so much money make them take the state certification exam for teachers if they pass they get a raise and if they fail they get nothing just think of how much money the city will save because the teachers are as dumb as their students win win
GREEDY teachers....
WOW.
BACK unions even if you aint in that union.
What would civilians think about 55 and out?
How about pick up the tab for college?
GREEDY right of course thats what a union does.
Anonymous said...
Can I be the first (of many) on here to say, F*** the teachers
Yes you can and I’ll be the second one to say it, F**CK the teachers!!
Commies vs progressives? commies are progressives and vice versa. Any given prog may deny being a commie, however commies are known liars you know, (any means to an end) and progs may also simply be a useful idiot and believe their own bullshit. Kinda hard to tell sometimes. They all believe they will be among the elite, and will be surprised when big brother and the police state take over and unions become truly useless.
The Communist head of the teacher's union, Sharkey, arguing with the Communist Mayor! Should be interesting.
The CTU is like a little child that dose not get what they want and they start crying then stopping their feet. Then you give in (STRIKE). We are not dealing with adults. Make them pay into their pensions as we do. Cry babies with two loaves of bread.
It’s nice to have leverage...
Come on people! Teachers are in dire need of a raise in salary. Airfare to Venezuela isn’t getting any cheaper.
Let them strike. It isn't as if the chillun will be getting educated anyway.
16% over 5 years... where do I sign?
99.9% of the murderers and overall criminals are Products from CPS.
Graham cracker aint gonna rock the boat cause he doesn’t want to risk his post president spot which he will soon need.
But the Board of Ed has $135 million for curriculum development. What is being used now and what has been used in the past and why does it need to be changed? Couldn't the city buy a package from the suburbs or other city for less money? Read the below post, it has a classic line that after the money has been spent "....teachers won’t be required to use the new curriculum....". So we buy something for $135 mill that may not be used?
https://www.chalkbeat.org/posts/chicago/2019/05/17/chicago-teachers-to-get-new-resources-as-district-announces-130-million-two-year-curriculum-overhaul/
If they strike FIRE THEM ALL! I’m tired of their threats. Especially after getting a very very nice deal. CPS is the reason for Chicago’s financial troubles.
Fire all teachers if they strike , hire kids right out of college , give them one year to find an apartment,house in Chicago . You will have energized, educated teachers , not burnt out baby sitters.
Play hardball Lori , take all offers away , demand teachers pay in 9.5% into teachers pension fund , require all teachers to pass the basic skills test to remain employed by CPS , start enforcing residency requirements.
Make them teach a full day , one lunch period , rest of time teaching .
You can hire lay people to act as study hall monitors , for 2/3 of a teachers salary .
Case workers, social workers , let the Principals take on a few extra duties .
Counselor position could be in study hall , available to students all day .counselors would be assisted by study hall monitors.
Overpaid babysitters .
So our schools are a disaster and getting worse and she offers a giant raise. Crime is bad BUT as we hear every week, getting better! And we hear rumors of pay cuts and at best 1-2% raise.
Have you seen the teacher's president Sharkey? What a little weasle. City employee not police if we were offered 16% we'd be doing cartwheels. Our union was offered shitty contract 3 years jack shit raises taking away our comp time. We all were sold that lightfoot was better choice than preckwinkle I'm having serious doubts then again was told if preckwinkle won we'd be on our way out. Definitely case of lesser than two evils. Please be safe terrible how police have been vilified in this country. Fuck the teachers so sick of their shit off 5 months a year and students are mostly dummies. I know some teachers and they're not that smart.
The teachers union always have the upper hand in contract negotiations, they use our children as bargaining chips.
16% for moron makers? No thank you.
Anonymous said...
Teachers have it too good no one in the private sector has benefits or raises close to these teachers.
8/27/2019 03:22:00 AM
I have relatives in the suburbs teachers who retired from D230 with over $100,000+ pensions with 3% cola every year did I pick the wrong profession.
A pension of $100,000 per annum, represents earnings from $3 Million invested at 5%.
I note this because even wealthy people often do not have high pensions like government and politicians due to the large amount of capital required to fund them. Gold Braid pensions is the main thing killing our fund this is not sustainable.
Groot will still blame “the FOP clowns” and the “greedy” police for the majority of the city’s problems.
She won’t deviate from her police hating agenda.
I'm sure there are many fine Chicago teachers. Problem is I have fuckin stumps in my field with more brains and better attitudes than a lot of big city teachers.
God bless the teachers. They can't run or hide from students, they are stuck in room with them. On the other hand we can do a slow down, look the other way, etc.
that is why i left this city. if you are not cashing a govt. check.. .you ain't shit.
12% for anyone who stands in front of a class and TEACHES....0 % for any and all " administrasive " positions....minus 5% for anyone with " vice", " assistant " or " deputy" in their job title. C'MON ! It's for the children !!
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Anonymous said...
Teachers have it too good no one in the private sector has benefits or raises close to these teachers.
8/27/2019 03:22:00 AM
I have relatives in the suburbs teachers who retired from D230 with over $100,000+ pensions with 3% cola every year did I pick the wrong profession.
A pension of $100,000 per annum, represents earnings from $3 Million invested at 5%.
I note this because even wealthy people often do not have high pensions like government and politicians due to the large amount of capital required to fund them. Gold Braid pensions is the main thing killing our fund this is not sustainable.
8/27/2019 01:43:00 PM
We need more money for the teachers they don't get paid enough remember it's for the children! CPS teachers should all be fired with their low graduation rates and low test scores just glorified baby sitters.
So many of the teachers are using a city address living out in the suburbs I know of a few yeah I’ve tried to talk to somebody downtown about it but nobody cares they can do whatever they want however they catch a copper living outside the city they terminate him or her or at least put them in a callback for a while teachers do what they want there is no investigation they teach the kids absolutely nothing anyway it’s ridiculous how they get away with it at those extremely high salaries for less than eight months of work I should’ve been a teacher instead of a cop.
Let them strike and replace them just like the air traffic controllers
"Groot Takes On Teachers"
Ohhh...
THAT... Is going to be so much fun to watch...
It'll be a welcome diversion from the
"We Hate The Police All The Time"
nonsense that's getting constant media play.
Groot taking on the teachers, eh?
It'll be like watching an old time stew bum
having a fight with a lamp post over who
took the bigger swig...
"Muhfukkah! I done tol' yo' ass..."
>Wind-Up and delivery of the fated hay-maker
that always misses it's mark, except THIS time<
>P~I~N~G! - (5 Second Pause) - Soundless Scream
- Fart Noise/Piss Sound - Sudden Stink<
Let's tally the damage, shall we?
Still soundlessly screaming...
Freshly broken hand...
Freshly pissed/freshly shit pants...
Ol' lamp post just standin' there in mute mockery.
"Groot Takes On Teachers"
Look.
Point & Laugh.
Leave.
Why hasn't anyone negotiated with a 14% increase and a pension payment increase from 3% to 8%?
Why does this get kicked down the road every time. No citizen would be on the teacher side if they rejected the offer.
I love how the CTU embraces socialism until it comes down to their money.
"It's for the kids!"
We Are All Replaceable
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Teachers have it too good no one in the private sector has benefits or raises close to these teachers.
8/27/2019 03:22:00 AM
I have relatives in the suburbs teachers who retired from D230 with over $100,000+ pensions with 3% cola every year did I pick the wrong profession.
A pension of $100,000 per annum, represents earnings from $3 Million invested at 5%.
I note this because even wealthy people often do not have high pensions like government and politicians due to the large amount of capital required to fund them. Gold Braid pensions is the main thing killing our fund this is not sustainable.
8/27/2019 01:43:00 PM
We need more money for the teachers they don't get paid enough remember it's for the children! CPS teachers should all be fired with their low graduation rates and low test scores just glorified baby sitters.
8/27/2019 05:38:
2 relatives retired ,collect together $135,000 per year from cps pensions ...lol money for the children
Where in the fuck is that fat fuck graham? Put down your fucking fork, swallow your food and say something!! What in the fuck are you doing for us? Say something anything! Are you there? CRICKETS
FOP doesn't have your backs. Time for a vote of no confidence. After the next Market crash, they will be crying broke again.
Teachers pull this same stunt regularly. Commies sure are whiners.
Public school teachers in Chicago are legally required to pay 9 % of their salaries toward their own pensions. But since 1981, as a result of contract negotiations between CPS and CTU, Chicago teachers only pay 2 % of their salaries toward their pensions. City taxpayers have to cover the remainder of the employee contribution. Since 2018, this practice has cost taxpayers $1.9 billion.
Teachers salaries in Chicago should be cut, based upon the Students test performance results. Taxpayers again being raped by our Socialist Politicians and their puppets, the Teachers Union. All raises should be based upon positive results, same goes for the police.
10% a year is generally considered a decent Cost of Living adjustment for productive professionals. But since special ed teachers are more important to society than engineers, I'm sure that the CTU has a clear conscience in their negotiations. And since they are so competent and on the ball, the CPD can stay out of the classrooms. Win Win, right?
A pension of $100,000 per annum, represents earnings from $3 Million invested at 5%.
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Uh, CPS alumnus? Two, not three million.
I'm sure there are many fine Chicago teachers. Problem is I have fuckin stumps in my field with more brains and better attitudes than a lot of big city teachers.
8/27/2019 03:18:00 PM
Education majors replaced Psych and Sociology as the dumb kids on campus in the academic world some time ago. They can literally teach calculus with nothing more to qualify them than a dumb bell math class taken as a freshman. They spend the majority of the degree requirements in how-to-teach classes. Seriously, it's a crock that is regularly cited by professors in other fields as how to game the system. So to have these polished turds insisting on being treated as anything more that glorified day care workers is beyond BS. Pay them what they're worth; and we'd see the salaries drop by at least half. The failure of the No Child Left Behind Act is just the most obvious example of the failures of the 'profession'. Kick the kids out of school at 16, with the motivated going to trade schools and the connected to college would save money and solve many of the problems with bored and coddled juveniles. Every other industrialized country recognizes the limitations of these clowns, but teacher unions as part and parcel of the Democrap Party. And an obvious example of its failings.
8/27/2019 12:27:00 PM
Our kids in CPS? What kind of enhanced devil weed are you smoking? I spent thousands every year to keep my daughter away from that. Grammar and High School, Catholic University. Sergeant's pay, still had part timers to keep up. Kid's mom was a CPS teacher. Decided that she would not contribute, because "Public Schools are just fine." She actually said that in a courtroom full of chiseling lawyers, They laughed, just like the Judge. Cheapskate would not contribute a nickel. Went to court and got child support. I was always respectful and smiling when I accepted her monthly check.
This makes for some interesting reading! A MAJORITY of responses from all walks of life are against, and sick of the CTU ripping off the taxpayer! Yet they will probably get their way and an even larger contract due to holding the kids hostage right near opening day. I say pull a Ronald Reagan like he did to the striking Air Traffic Controllers of the 80's and FIRE THEM! There's plenty of MORE QUALIFIED people to fill their spots!
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