Groot's Survey
Groot wants your opinion before she gives her State of the City address this week.
Here's a link to it.
Did you notice what is featured prominently in almost half of the questions?
Here's a link to it.
Did you notice what is featured prominently in almost half of the questions?
- Question #3 - Police Services
- Question #4 - Police Budget - reduce, remain the same, increase
- Question #6 - divide an imaginary $1000 budget among services - #1 slot? Police
Online surveys don't mean much. You can answer it many times from different computers, lie about your zip code, demographics, etc. If you know anything about surveys, you can slant the numbers by phrasing or posing question in a certain manner.
By placing the "police" question at the top of almost half the questions, does anyone else get the impression that the Department is going to be front-and-center of Groot's budget address? Kind of like the rumors we posted last week?
Listen closely to the chatter this week.
By placing the "police" question at the top of almost half the questions, does anyone else get the impression that the Department is going to be front-and-center of Groot's budget address? Kind of like the rumors we posted last week?
Listen closely to the chatter this week.
Labels: city politics
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
175 Comments:
Have to bet when she goes public it will be horrifically hilarious. She seems absolutely clueless.
Lol, I worked for CPD from 2007 to 2013 before leaving to do Cisco systems instead... gee wiz... they could had got a sophomore student with HTML5 background to straighten out the survey. It’s all fucked up. I did like how the survey did not allow for lowering or eliminating of any type of tax.
Police budget will be front and center because its the largest component of the budget based on info in the survey. How does per resident spending compare to other cities?
What is never mentioned in that survey, which shows 'budget' numbers, is how much of that money is reimbursed by the feds or state. I certainly hope 'click-it-or-ticket" and other such initiatives do not show up as overtime paid in that budget she shows, because that is state tax money, not city $$$.
Maggie's Farm (Bob Dylan)
"she's the brains behind pa"
So I wonder who cooked up this shit. And how much
it cost. Certainly not Lori. But she did dictate the results
she wanted so she can rule by proxy. It's not me boys,
it's from a scientific survey. Fresh back from Maine and
ready to inculcate Chicago that she has a mandate. Smoke
and mirrors. There's more reality in Hobbs & Shaw.
Fuck that thing up 10 ways to Sunday,
in the worst possible way
Here's my fucking survey. The results say she's
a two bit stew bum from Massilon, Ohio.
They will never release the true results of this survey.
Can anyone else see the targets on our backs? Geez....
Question #69 -
Which Exempt member under the current CPD Administration is the most corrupt and should be fired to save the tax payers a substantial amount of money?
Answer: Anthony Escamilla, the current Commander of 025. Subject was recommended to be fired previously by the Chicago Police Internal Affairs Division and the Inspector General. Anthony is very, very stupid and is a thief.
On the plus side, he likes to collect Strawberry Shortcake toys and is an aspiring test study scientist.
Tribune reporter Jeremy Gorner is awaiting permission from City Hall to pull the trigger and write an expose on Escamerit that will win him a Pulitzer.
Whoever named her Groot
Hit the nail on the dogone head
That shit is hilarious
Also works if you use different web browsers.
Larry is going make it a priority to discontinue future police pensions or keep it in place and split it or you get it at 67, and tax the current ones in place. You guys will see.
To honest, you would be better of with an annuity... you pick how much you pay in and get out. The city pensions do not work, just look who you have watching over the hen house... while you are at.. look at other hen houses too.. every pension is bound to go bust in 20 years
OT abuse is going to be considered theft and handled accordingly.
Hoooo...
The obvious anti-Police slant can be seen by ALL
but the hatefully, willfully and joyously ignorant,
of which Chicago has no lack of...
"Why y'all spendin' twice the amount on da Poleece
as you do on communerty services?"
"Dat's RACIST!
De-fun' da Poleece and da RACIST FOP
an' give dey money to US!"
And then the militantly misandrist, malformed and
malignant, mannish-assed mayoress will cop to
modesty and try to hide all her inflamed and
aggrieved ass behind the smallest fig leaf ever:
"We polled the public and the public declared
what it is that they wanted for us to do..."
You can bet a Fat Man on his best Friday
that the targeted respondent zip codes
have been pre-selected and anyone not
from those tageted zip codes will have
their survey dropped into the digital
trash bin.
Online surveys are pure damnit donkey dung
because they seek to justify an already
pre-determined outcome.
Nonsense like this happens when the goofs
in charge fancy themselves to be the
smartest ones in any room they deign to stand in...
...You're welcome.
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Look.
Point & Laugh.
Leave.
So LL will be resorting to her go-to advisor on the city budget...Magic Eight Ball.
Waste of time. Groots going to do whatever she wants regardless of the survey. However, without a strong and happy police force what kind of city would we have? The police are the foundation and front line for a strong and healthy Chicago.
When did her mayorass find time to setup a survey, with all the city business trips (WASTED TAXPAYER MONEY), spending hundreds of thousands of dollars redoing her office (TRUE WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY), taking a personal vacation barely three (3) months in office (broke her own no department head summer vacations rule), and hiring freeze (WASTED UNTOLD MILLIONS ON A BULLSHIT CONSENT DECREE)!!!!!
Good job Lighthead, just when we thought the city couldn't be any more FUCKED UP!!!!!
All these politicians are confused, they think they are actors.
None of them DO ANYTHING but play the part. POORLY AT BEST!!!!!
Abolish TIF Districts now!
Nice start going to be a long 4 years.
Never give them what they want
Who da poverty pimp dat run Spot News
An opinion...
Chillens Armored Car employee steals >$537K between
May 10 - Aug 18 (in coins) then walks on $3K cash bond.
The latinx illegals are just dyin' to get a piece of this shit.
Democratic mayor, instutionalized mayhem.
From our friends @CWB.
Did three surveys using three different internet browsers on my phone- next ill do the ipad.
Those number ill throw at her will likely give her a middle finger at her intended plans of making us scapegoats.
Looked at your survey.
Police are front and center with the highest spending, and therefore the biggest target.
IMO --- You Are Screwed.
Might as well cut the police budget. With the catch and release I-bonds, Chicago does not want to lock up criminals.
May as well cut out the middle men police. Then there is more money for TIF projects!
Question #6
3rd Grade CPS dumbed down shit math
(this is more along the lines of Massilon Publuck Skools)
Rush would tear her ass up
Smoke and mirrors. She is going to do what she is going to do and blame it on you. Your so screwed time to get out now. Take a lateral transfer immediately. Let her lose another thousand or so and see how she reacts.
Next week everyone will know if Mayor Lori Lightfoot is going to destroy Chicago.
Question # 7 for groot's survey. What would happen if no police officers worked in the city of chicago for a 24 hour period.
Lightfoot is going to address the City about the financial crisis we are in when she just spent $220,000.00 remodeling her office ( Sun Times article 22 Aug 19) performed by Facilities Management and Kenny Bros. Construction (lowest bidder-ha,ha, ha!!!!!!). Emanuel had the office upgraded in 2011 (Chicago Tribune 5 Dec 11 article). I can remember working in those old 1930s WPA police stations for 30 years until they started building the new stations around 2000. The firefighters had it just as bad. And she is going to give a speech on how we need raise taxes while she upgrades her office with TIF funds. She is fiscally irresponsible, and a hypocrite but has the nerve to address the taxpayers with her bullshit. This is disgusting. And yes it is so obvious on the motive for this survey.
Surveys are used to form opinions just another old marketing trick
The Mayor's Driver, Police Specialist Marni Washington, is back on the Mayor's Detail without much of an internal investigation completed by COPA. It's nice to have a personnel relationship with the Mayor of the City of Chicago. Inspector General please do your job.
Washington was at BIA last week all but demanding to be reinstated. And she was...
So what if she cuts the budget and gets rid of people. Every civilian has to be laid off before Police Officers. Guys they make this job easier everyday. Enjoy the stupidity. If there are no cars, what are they going to do? Foot posts, who cares.
upset over a BS survey?
groot already has made up his mind.
survey results will be ready for public day of address.
media will gush over how groots mind and public's opinion are the same.
one step closer to a socialist utopia.
Thank you Fat Man on a Friday
Digital trash bin is correct
They'll trash your survey even if it is from a zip code
They like. They'll trash anything they don't like and
You can bet the minions were told to submit dummy
Answers: the whole thing was front run.
This don't pass the scientific smell test.
The quality of Democratic mayors insults your intelligence.
Chicken shit on an animal farm.
It's a lot of stuff rolled into one:
1984
Animal Farm
In Cold Blood
Catcher in The Rye
The Man Who Never Was
Of Mice And Men
The Old Man and The Sea
You can write in pensions
Nothing about reducing CPS budget
CPS is half of property tax bill
And they want more.
Civilian here.
It's a waste of time. The results won't be published or will be manipulated.
Must agree with Ed Ryan .... it's going to be a loooong four years.
The survey will have results and then LL will speak on [her] results and what she's going to do (regardless of the survey ha ha)
HaHa....just did the survey and I don't even live there anymore. Very slanted indeed. Just be sure to write in the answer to the last question. TIF.
redo her office?.....how about the CPD stands down?
I have a vague memory of one evening, after way too many of my famous white wine spritzers, I think someone used a HTML5 on me. It was delightful.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Please put the survey on the top every day.
Obamas hands off now since they own a mansion
in the Vineyard. They cleared that speedbump a
long time ago.
Did you notice in the survey they put 1.8 Billion for the budget numbers instead of the graph number of 1'8 million
Double bubble. Toyall and trouble
That in combination with this:
SB2090 and HB2542 , what is wrong with this state???
Hang on boys and girls, get the Vaseline ready and have plenty on hand. You are about to be blamed for everything that has happened from the 7 year cycle of cicadas to forcing smelllit into his victim tantrum.
It seems there’s a full court press to figure out who is leaking the Mayors complete hatred of police.
The last one on the bus gets the worst deal. The only hope for the city is if Lefty hires Vallas to try and get the finances in order. That won't happen though. She is the smartest person in the room.
Looks like a 10 year old coder made up the survey - it’s all f*cked up, as usual. Chiraq - only the best and brightest - haha.
The writing is on the wall - the police will take the full blame for the tax increase.
Shouldn’t only tax payers do the survey because that’s who will be paying.
Did the Groot's partners at Mayer Brown ever endorse her? Were they happy or sad to see her leave the firm after winning the election? Were these questions already answered in the msm?
Dismantling the police is an essential element of the plan to turn Chicago into the new Detroit.
see i told you so,just look at this survey.
Shes just a no good police hating clown. She has a deep hatred for the police and has do problem displaying it. Lil hateful angry clown!
Of course Lori had to spend big bucks on her new office. A lawyer's office is their main status symbol and source of pride and personal self esteem. Remember how Jimmy McGill in Better Call Saul loved his expensive cocobolo wood desk? Same thing.
LADIES AND GENTS...
If the rumors are true (as all signs point to yes) and she throws us under the bus in her upcoming speech, can we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, finally fuckin UNITE!! I understand some situations need for you to do OT and such but for one single period, just 4 little weeks, stop volunteering for OT, VRI and other things to give her the big FUCK YOU!!!! New York showed great solidarity and even turned their back on their mayor during a public speech and we are pretty much right there. If the FOP won’t make a stand, then we need to do it ourselves. Since we’re not allowed to strike, we need to show some unity and displeasure with her actions!!
If we are going to save money, we should start with eliminating the Mayor's office and hire a City Supervisor who would report to a City Council of 10-15 elected persons. City Council could serve 3 year term with a limit of 3 terms.
Groot is gonna do her dirt then blame it on the survey. Her spin will be she's doing what the citizens asked for.
What about reducing aldermen??
The department is extremely top heavy! Trim the fat!
How about this survey? Should this department give Groot the deblasio treatment and turn our backs on her when one of our own is hurt, due to her “reckoning?” He’s the most hated and least respected person in NY. His anti police rhetoric has back fired......time for Groot to suffer the same here in Chiraq. We do a lot of good out there, and that good will over come her angry hate. She hate Da Cops for locking up her pops, but won’t blame him for his poor choices. I’ve told my family that if anything ever happens to me, tell Groot to go pound sand. No member of this family will meet with a police Hater, any of her white shirts for commie propaganda. My back is turned! Groot, you already Shanked us there.
I imagine the mayor will make deep cuts in the police budget and try to strangle the cops financially. I am not sure how that will play out in the long run, as crime starts to mount and pressure starts to build to do something. Chicago is heading toward bankruptcy, most likely within a few years. The real test will be the socialist led Chicago Teachers Union and their demands for large raises and more benefits. The teacher's union delegation raised money under the banner of the union and was featured on the official union twitter account. The union passed a resolution to support the communist who heads Venezuela. The union head, Jesse Sharkey is of the International Socialist Organization. Chicago is in deep trouble and is sinking fast, now that it is headed by a know nothing mayor with leftist viewpoints and no management skills.
Many will be watching Bears game instead, but at least DVR it. It's important to know
So the next survey questions should be: Why does the Mayor of such a war-torn city (where mass shootings occur regularly), where there are already 1803 persons already shot so far this year, with 329 people dead, most of whom are people OF color, BY people of color, want to negate her police force further?
Is her hatred of the police so consuming that she would seek to harm more people, in more neighborhoods, in this quest for what? Vengeance? Total chaos? Anarchy?
Are she and her staff so out of touch with the reality of a city that has become so crime ridden and violent that one can not walk alone after
dark? Can't ride the Els? Can't shop down town due to mobs of "youths" pushing, running, yelling, beating, robbing clueless tourists and the people who work there?
Dammit. I tried going to the survey to see any results to date and it wouldn't let me. A Screen popped up the message that I already voted, which I did when that thing was first available. I used 60632 as 'my' zip code. Given that my M-I-L still lived in beautiful Brighton Park until 'fairly recently', why not.
I split that $1,000 dollar 'budget' up with $700 for Police, $200 for Fire / Paramedics, and the last $100 dollars broken down to $10 dollars each for some other categories, but ZERO DOLLARS going to useless feel-good bullshit that's wasted on 'the community'.
Oh, and in the comment section at the end, I suggested a new area she should consider for Taxation -- it's an untaxed Gold Mine of money -- what Democrats would call a 'Loophole'/s: a High-Rise 'Nice View' tax. The higher up you live the more you should be taxed for the great view of the City, the Skyline, and the Lake. Granted, the higher the floor you live on, your Condo's price goes up so the Real Estate Tax somewhat gets into this but that still doesn't account for the breath-taking view of living on the 30th or 40th floor compared to the 3rd or 5th floor. This Tax could also be worked out for the Hi-Rise Apartment Buildings too, like where Jussie Smollett 'lives'.
This isn't exactly a new Idea, I read that out West where folks have a 'Cabin' (better than some single-family homes) sitting on a mountainside that a 'Nice View Tax'(not actual name) was enacted. This was probably in some democrat controlled state or county. After all, everyone knows the damn Democrats would Tax God himself if they could find a way to do it.
What information related to the City's expenses are you most interested in learning about? (select all that apply)
Other (please specify)
TIF Funds and the lack of accountability
Community Services (public health, youth services, homelessness support services, services for People with Disabilities) ($816.6 million)
WOW ... almost $1B a year for the useless ... aside from those w/ disabilities (who get SSI, which does NOT come out of the city's coffers)
free education is a youth service ... that should be enough ... study hard all day every day kids
They have been working on the budget WAYYY before this survey was sent. The questions are horrible, do not allow budget cuts, etc. Also, to state right before the budget reveal that there is a job freeze says it all. MASSIVE increases. The job freeze should have been in effect for a long time. Chicago is full of waste and patronage jobs. Streets and San should be privatized.
It's clear she's trying to shine a light on the fact that police make up a large part of the city's budget. She then distinguishes the School budget. I know for a fact that property taxes go at least in part to the schools. Where the button to click 'reduce the schools budget?' I didn't see that one.
Sure the schools' budget is not paid from the city's budget. But the revenue streams (taxes) are intermingled with police fire, school, etc.
That's like splitting a family's budget into two budgets, splitting the husband's income between those two budgets, and then asking the family's opinion only about one of the two budgets.
Lay it ALL on the table frog eyes.
CPS just released a $7.7 BILLION budget
I pay $500 a month for the young one and $1K/ mo for high school to the Catholic Mob
Police have what 11,000 and fire has 3,000
ya, there's going to be higher costs for police - kind of obvious
fuck you Groot, just keep paying the $600+ Million a year into the pension like Quinn told you too
More shenanigans from the the toad LightLoafer’s dimwitted policy advisement bureau.
Complete political nonsense.
They are only doing this to make it look like anyone, everyone gets a word it.
Nobody Tells Me What To Do™️ Frootie Groot recently said the new Academy was going forward and was going to be expanded by some $50 million.
What about all those technoLemmer policing upgradings ???
The CPD budget will see cuts, somewhere. It won’t be because of survey results.
Overtime always been an easy place to start, expect the return of handover cases at the Area and Units.
Courts are empty, maybe they’ll find a way to decriminalize even more colonial laws.
Scaling back exempt spots or replaced with civilians already on the General Budget.
Unless consent degrees CAPS might be overhauled, depending on gubmint grants/sanctuary funding cuts.
Wages and benefits won’t be affected by budget cuts, unless there’s a GrootFoot bought an arbiter to chop Duty Aval and Uniforms. Also less OT opportunity through initiatives by altering manpower allotments and sneak in some last minute adjustments.
Pensions depend on active membership, no hires means less coming in and even less City is picking up and then even fewer D2a & D3 salaries for a while.
One more thing about the survey...
The City has been using the IP Address to verify all the communications.
For instance the 3-1-1 Service Requests, they know where the calls/household are made from.
They know how to manipulate and shitcan multiple calls better than the antiquated OEMC geolocation.
Boot the Phony Groot
Stay Fetal.
the best I can figure with my google research skills is that half of CPS revenue comes from property taxes.
But this is not even addressed by Groot because there is a separate budget for CPS (and not part of the City's budget). Granted. I get the logic. But, from a homeowner's point of view it's part of the picture.
According to CBS:
On a North Side home with a $10,000 property tax payment, 54% goes to school taxes; 30% goes to various city taxes; including city government, public libraries, and mass transit projects; 7% goes to various Cook County government bodies; and 9% goes to miscellaneous taxes, including the Chicago Park District and the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District.
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/07/09/cook-county-property-tax-bill-breakdown-where-does-your-money-go/
to beat a dead horse, as stated in a previous post:
On a North Side home with a $10,000 property tax payment, 54% goes to school taxes; 30% goes to various city taxes; including city government, public libraries, and mass transit projects; 7% goes to various Cook County government bodies; and 9% goes to miscellaneous taxes, including the Chicago Park District and the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District.
So what 7% of property taxes in CHicago goes to county - so 93% (or thereabouts) goes to the city.
Let's say, for argument's sake that 80% of your property taxes goes to the city. Now your paying $10k per year for taxes, so $8k of that goes to the city.
Groot is ignoring this (I get is, she doesn't control property tax). But it's a big deal and I am far more concerned with this tax than any other (cigarette, city sales tax, parking garage tax).
In 2000 the teachers pension fund was 100% funded. Let's keep this in mind. Who fucked this all up? the City fuckied this all up, that's who. Fuck you Groot, you asked for this burden of being mayor.
I hope Mayor Lightfoot will answer the questions during Thursdays address to Chicago,just what the hell is a "stray bullet" and where does it come from???!!! It appears the failed Chicago ,Cook County Leaders and media are normalizing the" stray bullet"to be totally acceptable as the "stray bullet" increasingly continues to injure,maim,murder and slaughter innocent People(Unintended Targets also known as Murder Victims) devastating so many Families and Communities as We the Citizens are expected to go about Our daily routines and in our homes,as though "stray bullets" are equivalent to stray dogs and cats.Is there a criminal offender involved causing the " stray bullet" and its destruction? What the failed Chicago Cook County leadership has done,allowed and continues to do to the Citizens is unforgivable. During this time so many Beautiful things can be accomplished benefiting Everyone instead of continuing the creation of hate,misery,despair,evil,wrecked and loss of lives...Chicago Appreciates Its Police Officers and All First Responders.Thank You All ! Once again Thank You Second City Cop,CWB Chicago and all Others that get the need to know information to The People.
Get rid of Alermanic discretionary fund (think it is north of a million dollars) and have the teachers pay into their pension funds like other city employees.
220k for Kiddie sized furniture seems kind of excessive.
Groot should start selling off assets. Navy Pier should fetch a nice sum. Put the city back in the black for about 7 months. Then they can sell off Midway. Good for another year and a half or so. Im sure they can find other stuff to sell. With any luck the pension will be solvent till I die. I just turned 55 and left, the rest of you can go to hell. Im just thinking like Daly and Rham and every other FOP fucker who allowed the city not to pay into the pension. Along with the other scumbag politicians who allowed the city to pull out of social security because they didnt want to pay into that either.
The city's core mission is to provide public safety and infrastructure so that private industry can provide jobs. All other spending should be reduced.
A two bit stew bum... That's fucking hilarious!!!!
Has anyone seen “dumb as a box of rocks” Sandra Day
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT abuse is going to be considered theft and handled accordingly.
8/25/2019 01:01:00 AM
Like all other thefts in Cook County? LOL
She will use the “alleged” feedback from “the survey” as her excuse to ram her Progressive, SJW, Restorative Justice, LGBTQAEIOU agenda down the throats of all Chicagoans whether they like it or not.
—-not a cop
8/25/2019 04:15:00 AM
Kenny Brothers, you say? Well there’s always a possibility that the ceiling in her office will collapse or the floor may will cave in.
Lightfoot is going to address the City about the financial crisis we are in when she just spent $220,000.00 remodeling her office
Did she taller legs put on her desk chair so she can see over her desk?
Get rid of Alermanic discretionary fund (think it is north of a million dollars) and have the teachers pay into their pension funds like other city employees. Hip
Police and Fire service are two of the most important things in any city and are essential.
I want to see open books. What is Chicago's total revenue per month and what is Chicago's total expenses per month ?
lmao... clown mayor groot holds up sept academy class ...yet has $300,000 to re decorate her city hall office..........b.s. liberals in action
Must be nice to have 5 vehicles protecting you while the spouse bicycle ride through Logan Square. Was going to send a picture but I am sure they could GPS which cars were nearby.
Anonymous said...
Also works if you use different web browsers.
8/25/2019 12:59:00 AM
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I am Cisco guy who commented earlier, all these errors steams from what is called “Cascading Style Sheets” or CSS... since code can be inserted to read what browser you are using, and how large of a screen is, or if you are using a mobile device; which would reflect the lay out of the survey. Very simple stuff. Takes about 10 minutes to fix this whole survey for a computer science student at university.
How much money is skimmed and put into “Tiff” funds?
Groot will be out of town for her big speech.
The survey neglected to ask opinions on the newest potential problem in Illinois as explained by the Chicago Tribune: the potential that not enough POCs will get into the legal pot business...not enough ganja on the westside,,,we need remediation immediately,,,we demand our share of pot...
I follow CPD news due to family connections and so far Groot seems more fucked up than homemade soap. I'm not a cop but a firefighter and I stand with my brothers and sisters in blue.
LEO's have the toughest job in America and it's getting harder every day because of idiots like Groot, De Barfo and Garcetti pandering to the lowest forms of humanity. The once great city with "Broad Shoulders" was full of hard working and innovative immigrants. Now it's a sanctuary for illegals and welfare queens.
I got out of the LA shitshow six years ago and honest-to-God, it's the best move of my life. You CPD cops can do the same. If you need to stay in the Chicagoland area for family, look to the suburban PD's for employment. You'll generally find better equipment, better management and, as you already know, an astoundingly better political environment.
Stay safe out there. The shitbirds aren't worth getting fired over.
OT Got to give credit where credit is due. The Dectectivest are excellent community alert givers. Catching criminals and murderers not so much. But very good on the keyboards.
Why do these people post polls when they already know what they are going to do?
NOT ILLINOIS. NOT LAW.
I will spend the money as I see fit Groot said. When I am out of money I will come for more of yours. Now STFU and write the check.
Chicago and Illinois need Guilaini and Scott Walker at the helm. They both fixed budget problems and were roundly hated by democrats. They both made substantial progress their first term in office. But they tamed the unmanageable beast, but we here in Illinois, are much too urbane and sophisticated to allow ourselves to be governed by such men. Did you notice when they were in office both men were excoriated by the media, much like Trump. The media love Groot, Fat Boy and 0bama. They rarely had much bad to say about them no matter what awful things they did or do. Maybe I should get a tinfoil hat because it's almost like it's a media conspiracy against republicans. You know it's true. Democrats couldn't sell Big Macs at a profit at McDonalds or beefs at Johnnies.
No police for 24 hours. How about you make that a long weekend.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Looked at your survey.
Police are front and center with the highest spending, and therefore the biggest target.
IMO --- You Are Screwed.
8/25/2019 02:59:00 AM
Over 40% of your property taxes go to CPS and teachers pay 2% of their salary into the pensions. Start there.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How much money is skimmed and put into “Tiff” funds?
8/25/2019 03:34:00 PM
How come nobody asks any questions about these “TIF” slush funds? They are accounts FULl of tax money that was skimmed off the top and put into accounts run by the mayor and there is NO OVERSIGHT...NO APPROVAL need and NO REPORTING requirements.
There’s enough money in those slush funds to pay off the city’s pension obligations and still have some left over
I agree. Rudy and Scott have balls.
Detroit: whole neighborhoods boarded up, then bulldozed
over, let the land go to seed. Easier to police: Homeless
were hold up in the abandoned houses, junkies shooting up,
murders taking place. Those old photos, you could throw a
rock and not hit a window.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Lightfoot is going to address the City about the financial crisis we are in when she just spent $220,000.00 remodeling her office
Did she taller legs put on her desk chair so she can see over her desk?
8/25/2019 01:40:00 PM
I’m hoping this is a joke because it goes against everything Lightfoot has been preaching and supposedly is about to preach. The media should be all over this. She’s a “do as I say not as I do” kind of person.
Anonymous said...
Lightfoot is going to address the City about the financial crisis we are in when she just spent $220,000.00 remodeling her office ( Sun Times article 22 Aug 19) performed by Facilities Management and Kenny Bros. Construction (lowest bidder-ha,ha, ha!!!!!!). Emanuel had the office upgraded in 2011 (Chicago Tribune 5 Dec 11 article). I can remember working in those old 1930s WPA police stations for 30 years until they started building the new stations around 2000. The firefighters had it just as bad. And she is going to give a speech on how we need raise taxes while she upgrades her office with TIF funds. She is fiscally irresponsible, and a hypocrite but has the nerve to address the taxpayers with her bullshit. This is disgusting. And yes it is so obvious on the motive for this survey.
8/25/2019 04:15:00 AM
UNBELIEVABLE!!!! And if so, how the fuck is it $220,000 to remodel an office??? Think about that. People that spend $150,000 remodeling a home is a major major upgrade. What scam job is this?? Amazing!
Fuck lorie lightfoot, she’s out of her league. Fight her to the end
Anonymous Anonymous said...
LADIES AND GENTS...
If the rumors are true (as all signs point to yes) and she throws us under the bus in her upcoming speech, can we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, finally fuckin UNITE!! I understand some situations need for you to do OT and such but for one single period, just 4 little weeks, stop volunteering for OT, VRI and other things to give her the big FUCK YOU!!!! New York showed great solidarity and even turned their back on their mayor during a public speech and we are pretty much right there. If the FOP won’t make a stand, then we need to do it ourselves. Since we’re not allowed to strike, we need to show some unity and displeasure with her actions!!
8/25/2019 08:59:00 AM
You first buddy. Tell the Dets to do the same thing. If you think the city or department will shake and quiver over something so inconsequential as VRI then you probably believe the Clintons were ethical and not corrupt. The department would just put a saturation team or two on Michigan. VRI has allowed me to hammer deferred comp for 6 years and be entirely debt free with no car payments. We do live within our means though. Many do not.
Get out when you can.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Groot should start selling off assets. Navy Pier should fetch a nice sum. Put the city back in the black for about 7 months. Then they can sell off Midway. Good for another year and a half or so. Im sure they can find other stuff to sell. With any luck the pension will be solvent till I die. I just turned 55 and left, the rest of you can go to hell. Im just thinking like Daly and Rham and every other FOP fucker who allowed the city not to pay into the pension. Along with the other scumbag politicians who allowed the city to pull out of social security because they didnt want to pay into that either.
Great idea having her sell city assets. Think Daley did that before with the parking meters and Skyway. How did that turn out?
More shenanigans from the the toad LightLoafer’s dimwitted policy advisement bureau.
Complete political nonsense.
They are only doing this to make it look like anyone, everyone gets a word it.
Nobody Tells Me What To Do™️ Frootie Groot recently said the new Academy was going forward and was going to be expanded by some $50 million.
What about all those technoLemmer policing upgradings ???
The CPD budget will see cuts, somewhere. It won’t be because of survey results.
Overtime always been an easy place to start, expect the return of handover cases at the Area and Units.
Courts are empty, maybe they’ll find a way to decriminalize even more colonial laws.
Scaling back exempt spots or replaced with civilians already on the General Budget.
Unless consent degrees CAPS might be overhauled, depending on gubmint grants/sanctuary funding cuts.
The department should never go back to handing over cases in the Area or Units. It would affect the 16% clear up rate
Don’t worry FOP is getting out front of this issue.
It’s time for a city wide blue flu. Everyone should Hit the medical THIS weekend for Labor Day. Im a Lt and I’m telling you that it’s needed
Stay fetal
The economy is Booming everywhere else in the Country...EXCEPT FOE cook county... But it is all the police’s fault!!
Survey is a biased piece of shit. The only option related to the taxes and fees is "increase", "keep the same", or "no opinion"? And it REQUIRES an answer to submit? Fuq dat crap... I put in the optional comment to CUT ALL OF THE TAXES AND FEES... stop funding the homeless, youth services, cultural/film office, etc... Let charities handle the homeless, and raise their own damn money from the public. Youth can be handled by the parents. Cultural/film crap can be handled by tickets...
Stop pissing money away when you don't have it...
“Anonymous said...
Chicago and Illinois need Guilaini and Scott Walker at the helm. They both fixed budget problems and were roundly hated by democrats. They both made substantial progress their first term in office. But they tamed the unmanageable beast, but we here in Illinois, are much too urbane and sophisticated to allow ourselves to be governed by such men. Did you notice when they were in office both men were excoriated by the media, much like Trump. The media love Groot, Fat Boy and 0bama. They rarely had much bad to say about them no matter what awful things they did or do. Maybe I should get a tinfoil hat because it's almost like it's a media conspiracy against republicans. You know it's true. Democrats couldn't sell Big Macs at a profit at McDonalds or beefs at Johnnies.”
Giuliani and Scott Walker wouldn’t pay your pension, chugnut.
elmopan said...
Must be nice to have 5 vehicles protecting you while the spouse bicycle ride through Logan Square. Was going to send a picture but I am sure they could GPS which cars were nearby.
8/25/2019 02:26:00 PM
This is interesting, because I have heard from several Logan Square old timers that the Groot and her spouse, though they have lived their for nearly twenty years, have never had any involvement in the community, except for their on-time mortgage payments and ever-rising property values. Now they are out on the streets?
Expect the Anti-Police/FOP media onslaught to begin in preparation of Lightfoots Speech. The National Democrats Dirty Tricksters have prepared in-depth all the talking points for Lightfoots Manifesto. Expect NOTHING but a hitjob on the CPD/FOP and throwing a bomb of...layoffs. She honestly believes and repeatedly states out loud “Why do we pay these assholes to do nothing?” She wants scalps to trot out to the news media so be careful and expect large scaled firings. This is bigger than her and is part of a national movement to vilify and make police/citizen interactions worse and blame...Trump.
This is all Lausch’s fault. He orchestrated her ascent to office!
Wanna save money, make government smaller and more efficient, have only 10 aldermen/10 wards. NO need for 50 aldermen, this is not the 1940's !!!!!
I want to see open books. What is Chicago's total revenue per month and what is Chicago's total expenses per month ?
8/25/2019 01:55:00 PM
This ChiCago, there's always two sets of books. Which one you wanna see and the one they show you.
7:25 pm , 1925hrs. Is Wrong .
Ticket Blitz, ANOV blitz , premise checks in all licensed businesses on your beat that is what will bring city to it’s knees .
It worked in 70’s , old man Daley came up with a $2 k raise , that was on a 10,500 yearly salary .
They cannot tell you not to write drivers without a DL ,suspended ,revoked ,no insurance , unsafe vehicles . Tow as many cars as possibly.
Every district will be in a RAP , dope dealers will be sling triple the dope , OF’s will rise , gang wars increase and you are doing your job.
Bet any $$ that Lt. Is a merit , don’t want a full lock up . F him , he’s a dog ass .
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Groot should start selling off assets. Navy Pier should fetch a nice sum. Put the city back in the black for about 7 months. Then they can sell off Midway. Good for another year and a half or so. Im sure they can find other stuff to sell. With any luck the pension will be solvent till I die. I just turned 55 and left, the rest of you can go to hell. Im just thinking like Daly and Rham and every other FOP fucker who allowed the city not to pay into the pension. Along with the other scumbag politicians who allowed the city to pull out of social security because they didnt want to pay into that either.
Great idea having her sell city assets. Think Daley did that before with the parking meters and Skyway. How did that turn out?
8/25/2019 07:10:00 PM
Sell Groot on a one way ticket to the stratosphere. She should take her little horrid demonrat pretties with her.
It’s time for a city wide blue flu. Everyone should Hit the medical THIS weekend for Labor Day. Im a Lt and I’m telling you that it’s needed
Yea right
Must be nice to have 5 vehicles protecting you while the spouse bicycle ride through Logan Square. Was going to send a picture but I am sure they could GPS which cars were nearby.
Wow. Were they on the public way? Doesn't really matter where you were as long as you were on the public way. You think you have a breaking story? Grow some stones and take the pics. Otherwise don't bring it up. Learn the laws pal!
Lori Lightfoot will save Chicago....lol
At some point the powers that be will change the pension clause, we will get what has already been earned,going forward 401k.
How the hell is it CPD's fault for Chicago's budget mess ? GROOT must be smoking something too soon,its not legal weed till January.
It’s time for a city wide blue flu. Everyone should Hit the medical THIS weekend for Labor Day. Im a Lt and I’m telling you that it’s needed
8/25/2019 07:25:00 PM
Will yoo, the loo, be getting the floo, too?
Anonymous said...
It’s time for a city wide blue flu. Everyone should Hit the medical THIS weekend for Labor Day. Im a Lt and I’m telling you that it’s needed
8/25/2019 07:25:00 PM
Will yoo, the loo, be getting the floo, too?
** Yea ok Merit LT. A blue Flu by all IS CONSIDERED a strike moron!
I fucked with the Bell Curve.
Question #3 - Police Services (Increase)
Question #4 - Police Budget -(remain the same)
Question #6 - divide an imaginary $1000 budget among services - #1 slot? Police $250. (split 250 3 areas and did a 25/50/100 split on the rest to total 1k)
Anonymous said...
At some point the powers that be will change the pension clause, we will get what has already been earned,going forward 401k.
8/25/2019 11:49:00 PM
Look here pal. Read the State Court Decision. Can Not be Diminished.
They can Eliminate Pension for new hires and go 401k/SSI/457. But I believe that to get the Unions to sign off on it, the Contributions would have to match the Private Sector...which varies between $1 for $1 up to $3 for $1 (Employre matches or surpassses Employee contributions). When I was at LaSalle Bank, it was a $2 from the Bank for every $1 I put in.
Or to put it another way....
If they start a 401k program, the City will be required to give all current employees in the Pension plan the Option to remove their $$$ from the Muni Fund and Throw it into the 401k and the 457. And since it isn't a remove due to quit/fire, all the matching funds the city has dumped into your pension (theoretical monies at the moment, to be sure) would have to come out and go into 401K and 457.
And to further the point, if I drop 45k of my Pension $$$ into the Cities Brand New 401k program, at a 1 to 1 match ration, I now have 90k in the 401k. Which I can pull instantly and dump into my 457 and pay no taxes on until retirement. And at the Blended 2% plus a few high risk stocks I have for my 457....in 20 years my 457 will be at about 750k. Plus 20 years of a 401k and SSI after 65.
Can you imagine 25000 vested City Employees doing that?
An idiot survey compiled by idiots for idiots.
Wow. Were they on the public way? Doesn't really matter where you were as long as you were on the public way. You think you have a breaking story? Grow some stones and take the pics. Otherwise don't bring it up. Learn the laws pal!
8/25/2019 10:22:00 PM
Here's a breaking story: you are an idiot. It doesn't really matter as long as the photo taker was on the public way, but it does matter if the photo taker was on-duty. Grow some knowledge and learn the rules pal! Otherwise, STFU jerk.
Anonymous said...
How the hell is it CPD's fault for Chicago's budget mess ? GROOT must be smoking something too soon,its not legal weed till January.
8/26/2019 12:33:00 AM
Per today’s front page story in the tribune, sterling bay to get 1.3 billion dollars from tiff fund for Lincoln yards project.
That would have been a nice raise for all city workers. Instead we are supposed to make up the one billion dollar plus shortfall in the planned budget.... who are the idiots here?
8/25/2019 07:25:00 PM? You're a Lt? Merit, I guess. Who do you think would be handling the domestics, bar fights, bodies where they fall? With a "blue flu," it would be the white shirts. Boy, how to win friends and influence people! "Do you know what it cost me to get here?" Now you flop me back into the shit? Thanks, Pal.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How much money is skimmed and put into “Tiff” funds?
8/25/2019 03:34:00 PM
How come nobody asks any questions about these “TIF” slush funds? They are accounts FULl of tax money that was skimmed off the top and put into accounts run by the mayor and there is NO OVERSIGHT...NO APPROVAL need and NO REPORTING requirements.
There’s enough money in those slush funds to pay off the city’s pension obligations and still have some left over
8/25/2019 05:25:00 PM
Check out the front page story in today’s tribune. $1.3 billion dollars from tiff funds for Lincoln yards/sterling bay. How much is rahm getting? If that doesn’t piss you off, you must like getting it stuck up your ass......
8/25/2019 10:13:00 AM? I did the same. Now my daughter can differentiate between "Loose" and "lose." It is worth every penny. Now I call her "Sarge."
Isn’ it time for the pimp priest to come out of his hole
CPS budget pales in comparison:
https://budgetblog.ctbaonline.org/chicago-public-schools-2019-budget-in-three-charts-79ec59e0d4f4
$5.9B FY2019
Why isn't that listed as a possible area?
Just got my water bill. Noticed that there's city tax on the water and sewer amounts. so, they tax the the tax.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Expect the Anti-Police/FOP media onslaught to begin in preparation of Lightfoots Speech. The National Democrats Dirty Tricksters have prepared in-depth all the talking points for Lightfoots Manifesto. Expect NOTHING but a hitjob on the CPD/FOP and throwing a bomb of...layoffs. She honestly believes and repeatedly states out loud “Why do we pay these assholes to do nothing?” She wants scalps to trot out to the news media so be careful and expect large scaled firings. This is bigger than her and is part of a national movement to vilify and make police/citizen interactions worse and blame...Trump.
8/25/2019 09:20:00 PM
There will be no police layoffs. If she wanted to cut she would have stopped the August academy class
save money , force parents to use link to pay for free breakfast , lunch at cps , most food tossed in garbage charge all non citizens tuition drug test all on any government assistance , cancel welfare for all homicide victims immediately
keep the criminals behind bars , cpd locking up the same criminals instead of protecting the innocent victims
Blue flu...what are you smoking!!!!
Lori Lightfoot is a racist, hypocrite, machine, progressive candidate who has made it perfectly clear that she hates straight people, whites, the police and taxpayers.
Is there a write in portion? So I can give my “Fuck You very much Groot” response.
GROOT is gonna save Chicago. The city has been billions in debt for year's. Make government smaller and more efficient. City wants to spend millions on a new police fire academy. Waste of money. Keep wasting tax payers money.
Blue flu. Who are you kidding? CPD is already a JOKE !
Why did they take Officers off of social security if they want to cut the pension?
Anonymous said...
At some point the powers that be will change the pension clause, we will get what has already been earned,going forward 401k.
8/25/2019 11:49:00 PM
401scam it will never equal a pension.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I want to see open books. What is Chicago's total revenue per month and what is Chicago's total expenses per month ?
8/25/2019 01:55:00 PM
This ChiCago, there's always two sets of books. Which one you wanna see and the one they show you.
8/25/2019 09:56:00 PM
Am I the only Mouthbreather here that knows how to do an FOIA? Sheesh. Write it up. They got 7 days without a request for an Extension.
Department of Finance is the Agency. Do it Jan 1st, 2019 to June 30th, 2019. All incoming revenue generated and Collected by the City and all outbound expenditures by the City to vendors, settlements, refunds, etc...
https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/fin/supp_info/fin_foia.html
https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/progs/foia.html
You can even FOIA all FOIA's against the City. See whose checking stuff out. You can FOIA an Employees Disciplinary Record as well. Salary, OT and Comp Time Earned.
Have Fun.
Chicago and Illinois are billions and billions in the red, this is the result of years and years of mismanagement. I hear GROOT remodeled her office, for what amount? It was fine, why remodel? Chicago wants to build a new police fire academy, why? Lets waste more tax payers money. There was no need to remodel the office, and we don't need a new police fire academy.
Anonymous said...
At some point the powers that be will change the pension clause, we will get what has already been earned,going forward 401k.
8/25/2019 11:49:00 PM
401scam it will never equal a pension.
100 percent correct about that. Just your contributions wouldn’t do anything. Pension is good because for every dollar we contribute, the city is supposed to contribute two dollars. I did say “supposed”. City won’t go to a 401K because then they would have to put the two to one every payday and that’s not going to happen. Without that a 401K would be a disaster for us
Heard Lightgroot offered the teachers a 16% pay increase over the next four years. But, they want more! I don't have any fucking kids!! And, the majority of the taxpayers funding the schools live on the north side and send their kids to private school!!
Anonymous said...
Chicago and Illinois are billions and billions in the red, this is the result of years and years of mismanagement. I hear GROOT remodeled her office, for what amount? It was fine, why remodel? Chicago wants to build a new police fire academy, why? Lets waste more tax payers money. There was no need to remodel the office, and we don't need a new police fire academy.
8/26/2019 03:40:00 PM
Probably to get rid of all the FBI Bugs.
Wanna save money, make government smaller and more efficient, have only 10 aldermen/10 wards. NO need for 50 aldermen, this is not the 1940's !!!!!
8/25/2019 09:25:00 PM
Imagine an Alderman for the ENTIRE downtown area. Imagine one for just the Southeast side. They would be like little kingdoms. You would see shooting wars for control of Sauganash. 10 aldermen would be like 10 Ciceros. No thanks.
RE: 8/26/2019 03:27:00 PM
In 13 years with the OEMC and the DOR/DOF I have probably filed, on average, 3 or 4 FOIAs to various City Departments on a variety of topics.
To Date, I've only ever had 1 denied.
Why the fuck is the city giving Lincoln Yards 1.3 billion of TIF money ?????? Chicago is so fucked up and the tax payers are always left with the bill !!!!! Enough is enough. STOP SPENDING TAX PAYERS MONEY FOOLISHLY !
Just heard LL wants to restructure cfd, look out smoke eaters!
and if it were at the end of the survey, the complaint would be that she didn’t appreciate/prioritize police needs
"Anonymous said...
Heard Lightgroot offered the teachers a 16% pay increase over the next four years. But, they want more! I don't have any fucking kids!! And, the majority of the taxpayers funding the schools live on the north side and send their kids to private school!!
8/26/2019 06:20:00 PM"
The standard used to be a raise based on inflation/cost of living. 4% a year?? The city and state are broke. The difference between public and private sector? If more money is needed, just take it from the taxpayer. Crook politicians robbed the state and left.....teachers union didn't get the message and still demand their "fair share." Of nothing...
You are very wrong...the city
Puts 2 to 1 into our pension every year but were told 20 yrs ago that 2 for 1 is not enough...it should be 3 or 4 to 1..so when the city says that they put the correct amount into our pensions technically they are right...but the percent they agreed to.is not enough
Sounds to me that the TIF money is GROOTS personal piggy bank and she could do as she pleads with the TIF money!
Love to know how much income Chicago makes in a month and how much are it's expenses in a month???? Someone please find out !
Go away, Groot you creepy little woman-that wears man suits and shoes...
And OT, today’s Trib ran short stories of what all the mayoral hopefuls that didn’t make it are doing now. Boring like anything else that rag publishes and poor Dahleen sounds like she’s gonna stroke out soon, getting all worked up with her ridiculous and unrealistic rants.
I’d like to see Gary McCarthy run for Sheriff just to derail Dart.
Hey! Why not??
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Love to know how much income Chicago makes in a month and how much are it's expenses in a month???? Someone please find out !
8/26/2019 11:29:00 PM
You're someone. File the FOIA requests and find out. Let all of us know.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You are very wrong...the city
Puts 2 to 1 into our pension every year but were told 20 yrs ago that 2 for 1 is not enough...it should be 3 or 4 to 1..so when the city says that they put the correct amount into our pensions technically they are right...but the percent they agreed to.is not enough
8/26/2019 11:10:00 PM
Read you pension newsletters and financial reports. City is supposed to put in $2 to our $1, but diesnt
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You are very wrong...the city
Puts 2 to 1 into our pension every year but were told 20 yrs ago that 2 for 1 is not enough...it should be 3 or 4 to 1..so when the city says that they put the correct amount into our pensions technically they are right...but the percent they agreed to.is not enough
8/26/2019 11:10:00 PM
You don’t seem to understand the whole pension system and are wrong. Contributions by the city fluctuate by current situations in the pension income. Below is an excerpt from a Forbes article on why the police pension along with the other 3 city pensions are failing
But by far the largest contributor to the plans’ worsening funded status is that the city is not contributing even the minimal amount necessary to “tread water.” For years and years the city has failed to contribute the “Actuarially Determined Contribution” which is based on a determination of the amount needed to pay off the underfunding over a 30 year period. But the actuarial reports provide a second number: the degree to which contributions failed to meet even the minimum standard of the new plan accruals and accumulated interest for the year.
More Socialist propaganda by Comrade Groot. & Co.
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