Second Guessing (UPDATE)
We're getting a couple e-mails about coppers being summoned down to COPA for "interviews" about an open CR number and the officers are then being sandbagged with "observations" that COPA investigators made of other officer's videos [correction - without presenting any allegation paperwork or signed complaints by anyone] in direct violation of the Signed Affidavit Bill.
Anyone know the truth?
[UPDATE] Apologies. we misread part of the e-mail. The COPA-cabana boys are refusing to even show officers a signed affidavit before, curing or after questioning, which is the foundation of every CR number that we've been a part of.
Anyone know the truth?
[UPDATE] Apologies. we misread part of the e-mail. The COPA-cabana boys are refusing to even show officers a signed affidavit before, curing or after questioning, which is the foundation of every CR number that we've been a part of.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
84 Comments:
“Rules for thee, not me”. Now that is a hostile work environment.
Yes! This happened to me. They are so full of shit. They claimed this guy who was arrested and really drunk at the UC complained about my partner pulling his hair. They claimed while watching the video, they said they heard me say something racial and filed a complaint on me. I never said anything racial but they insisted it was and I also found out the arrestee never filed any complaint on my partner. I'm still waiting for this bullshit outcome. I told them they were full of shit. My FOP lawyer wasn't too happy with me.
Have the COPA investigators sign affidavits pertaining
to their observations. We request educational background
of said investigators that bestows the title of "expert" film
reviewer. Demand instances where the investigator served
as an expert witness in a court of law and the disposition of
the case. Demand detailed exam results of complete eye
exam (RECENT) by a board certified Opthalmologist (M.D.).
Status report should detail presence of "floaters" and their
severity and extent as well as cataracts. Demand last contact
lens or eyeglass Rx. If the "investigator" and his/her M.D.
cannot vouch for visual acuity, demand that the investigator
step down from film review. (p.s. There's going to be very
few M.D.s willing to state their patient has perfect eye health
and perfect corrected vision. There's just too much liability
at stake. This medical judo is the only way to stop these
monsters, folks. Turn the tables back on them and their
"Eye Doctor.")
ALSO: Many drugs (OTC and Rx) can affect vision. Common
caffeine (tea, coffee, chocolate) can cause blurred vision. Rx
drugs are even worse. You know where the term "vetting"
originated? Race horses had to be examined by veterinary
doctors to certify they were healthy enough to run a race.
In our case, these "investigators" need to be vetted by an
Opthalmologist who will testify as to eye health and drug use.
It's time for hardball, folks.
Fast start to the weekend's bloodshed,
Three dead and five wounded before midnight Friday.
Heh...
"The Great CPD Retreat From The Community" is driving COPA
to head-hunting in order to meet their "many Police scalps
on the wall" founding principle and to justify their existence.
"Since those Coppers are getting smart and distance themselves
from harm, we now have resort to dragging them in and springing
the old "Is there anything else you want to tell us about these
OTHER complaints you have in your file?"
Disciplinary Procedure Jackpot/Administrative Perjury Trap...
If you don't know, can't recall, refuse to answer because you
realize what they're trying to do?
=
You're Lying/Obstructing Investigation/Bringing Discredit
and the entire host of charges aimed at funneling you
toward discipline up to and including separation from
employment.
Never talk to these low-life m/fers without representation...
They NEVER "just want a little of your time
to clarify some things..."
THEY... Are actively seeking to hurt YOU
and YOUR FAMILIES by any and all means.
Fuck COPA...
Tell them to disclose their "observations" in the form
of a complaint FIRST so that the Officers can properly
defend themselves instead of being administratively
blind-sided and put into a perjury trap because of this
illegal/unethical administrative perjury trap designed
to increase COPA's hit rate in face of The Police being
in headlong retreat from any interaction with the public.
Respond.
Arrive after the fact.
Drop luxurious and uselessly thorough paper.
Whistle for the body snatchers.
Oversee CFD hosing the skull fragments, brain matter,
teeth and other small body pieces and shit/vomit/piss
off the sidewalk.
Then leave...
Repeat as needed.
Give them ALL the dry, flavorless, unexciting,
by-the-numbers, non-sexy, non-proactive,
strictly self-protective Policing they can
stomach.
Can you say "Zapruder film?"
They put the FBI/CIA on that piece of evidence.
Don't cops deserve the same degree of professionalism?
NFL has multiple camera angle films, decision is made in
New York City, and they still can't get the calls right.
I say get rid of these amateur sleuths with too much time
on their hands and a hard-on for cops. They have agendas,
scores to settle, otherwise they would not have joined COPA.
COPA is flawed from the get go. Attack COPA rather than
wait for them to pass judgement upon cops.
Happened to me. Complaint wasn’t against me and COPA investigates without a signed affidavit and saw me on video cursing and pulled a number. No affidavit, allegations weren’t against me to began with. Total bullshit. Been going a bit. FOP is useless.
I know personally of one lieutenant that was brought down as a witness for excessive force complainant, just after COPA took over and was told after getting there that he was now an accused because he was in charge that night.
COPA has been signing their own complaints saying they are an independent organization that represent the citizens of Chicago not the city.
Hey SCC there’s news of the tac teams getting cut down to just 3 teams (10 officers/1 Sgt per team)
I guess this is Groots way of cutting OT costs
There is no general order that officers cannot befriend COPA investigators. Become friends with investigators. Join the same church that they belong to. Have your wives be friends with their wives.
That's what the mob does, and it works great.
America
Yes, very true. A PO was called down to COPA and had a CR placed on the PO for Excessive Force. PO arrived on scene of a police involved shooting. PO was securing the active crime scene. PO told several citizens to back off the crime scene. One male refused to listen and was threatening and getting closer to the offices that were just involved in the shooting. The PO gave several verbal directions and when the male refused, the PO pushed the male once so he was off the crime scene. The male never fell, complained or got hurt, he just left the scene and walked away. This was all caught on the dash cam video of the PO’s car that were involved in the shooting. COPA viewed the tape saw the push and got a CR on the unknown PO at the time. The male that was pushed never complained to COPA, in fact when COPA went out to look for the Male and found him, he refused to sign the affidavit and said PO was doing his job. COPA investigators finally found the PO and brought the PO in saying it was an interview about the police involved shooting. The PO was given the CR for 20 days for excessive force . COPA investigator was the complaint stating they could be because they saw it on the video. No signed affidavit. Last I heard PO fought it, went to aberration, found in favor of PO, PO cleared, got 0 days.
OT. WTF are we still downing two cars 24/7 on Rahms house? Make him pay for private security not tax payers?
COPA/IPRA has turned ‘Witness’ Officers into ‘Accused’ before based on their statements. If the allegation against the initial accused is going no where, another officer taking a hit on the case is a ‘closed with officer punished’ they can use for their stats. Make sure you watch all the BWC videos from everybody on those cases before you go down there. I’m sure their goal is to squeeze a rule 14 out of everything.
Be careful & never underestimate the depths to which your opponent will sink to keep their job.
We had a visit from the commander of the office of reform management to talk about the consent decree. This guy is a product of the current administration that is a big part of the reason we have the consent decree so forgive me if I call bullshit. Why would anyone expect any real improvements. They’re going to write some nice new directives and document some bullshit “increase in the decrease” and pat themselves on the back. He wouldn’t know reform if it walked up and ruffled his perfectly styled hair. Save it for the clueless and your fellow ass kissers.
Happened to me a year ago. Investigator determined I was at fault for not doing a secondary investigation of a battery.
So now it begins.
First COPA needs to clean out Call Back.
OT looks like the aim is getting much better. 3 dead out of 8 shot last night. Keep up the good work people.
Any word from FOP yet? Anyone? Bueller? Crickets....
The truth and COPA have nothing in common.
Any thoughts on parolee who sexually assaulted 14 year old girl in Burbank? Seems to be emblematic of our social justice system coddling predators.
Maybe COPA can watch the videos and make their “assessment”
A COPA investigator once sent me an E-Mail asking questions about a case. Just out of the blue. Unbelievable.
how's this.....my name and birthdate. then.....I say nothing
COPA is yet another depolicing tool. By now, you should recognize the Power behind any acronym group: PETA, NAACP, SPLC, etc. COPA is just a precise tool to target a certain group of Officers and make the job so unpleasant that they retire or go work elsewhere- burbs. Make a list of Officers targeted and look for the commonalities. Dig deep into the origins and structure of COPA. FOIA is your friend here.
Think along the lones of George Soros and his ilk. Investigate these groups thoroughly, that is what needs to be done in your spare time. They need to be systematically dismantled before it is too late to stop these Comunists. It sounds so crazy to think of Commies taking over America to the old guys (Red Dawn?), but they are real, and making huge inroads into local Government now. Time to play hardball.
COPA has slowed down considerably and is desperately looking for easy, year end budget expansion work.
Y’all ain’t coming in droves to COPA, so COPA is coming for you.
They might even explore having a 24hr satellite office in the lockup’s to keep in constant touch with the community.
When they go Low....
Like those 24 Hr. Board-Up services, they hire pissbums to go around town breaking plate glass windows when night times are slow.
There used to be a storefront lawyer in 025/015 that ran around with a scanner like unscrupulous tow truck and board up operators looking for some bidness at in progress disturbance calls.
COPA sank to this level.
Like every City of Groot Department, el’COPA is expected to cut their rapidly grown multimillion dollar budget too.
But with the low community engagement process, they’re just not getting a steady stream of excessive force, community enemy polices to come in. It’s no doubt they have to substantiate their worth and budget by filing all sorts of miscellaneous nonsense infractions they observe on these videos.
Watch and see how COPA fairs against CPD in the next budget when it come to the chopping block.
I smell a Contract violation.
Hey Office, there’s this allegation we’re looking into and noticed this here in the viewing process that was overlooked. Let’s amend the charge. Just sign this.
Uh-uh-uh. No dice.
Always defer to legal representation when confronted with these COPA frivolous observations and claims BEFORE answering to any of them. The COPA want continuances too, like the CCSAO, too keep others busy shuffling paper.
Say nothing without legal advice no matter how small the infraction they claim exists.
Setting up a trap is common, well used practice for these people.
But - the very best practices are to avoid the community altogether and that essentially shuts down dreaded biased el’ C.O.P.A.
It’s Larry LightLoafer’s job to engage and entertain the community, not yours.
A reasonable response and a report is sufficient for your part.
Some things you can’t avoid, but that doesn’t mean to stop working smarter to get to that avoidance.
CB#’s are bad for your credit score. Especially if your attorney accepts Visa/MC for retainer fees.
[Since those Coppers are getting smart] and distance themselves
from harm, we now have resort to dragging them in and springing
the old "Is there anything else you want to tell us about these
OTHER complaints you have in your file?
You must work in CAPS and not listen to the radio. There are plenty of dumb coppers on this job. New officers think this is the burbs they try to outdo each other’s activity everyday. As if they’re competing for that one SGT spot that might open up in 20 years.
Go get em!
Time for the FOP to start filing lawsuits against COPA investigators. Get some punitive damages too. Remember you will have these false allegation on your personal record permanently. Don’t be the cities whipping boy! Get some balls.
Hey SCC there’s news of the tac teams getting cut down to just 3 teams (10 officers/1 Sgt per team)
I guess this is Groots way of cutting OT costs
9/14/2019 02:15:00 AM
How many teams are there now? It was always 3 teams of 10. How many more useless fucks in blue jeans writing blue cards wearing grunt style shirts driving jeeps with punisher decals do we need? we need the ultimate tactical warrior back!!!
This should b one reason why u should do nothing for this fucked up city.
"....the commander of the office of reform management to talk about the consent decree. This guy is a product of the current administration that is a big part of the reason we have the consent decree..."
That is a depressing thought.
When an officer is being accused based on perception of camera angle view, you know the end has officially arrived You get out of that car for anything other than a radio call, you need your head examined. They want Trophy Heads on their walls like big game hunterers have in their basements
I would think that all of the police union leaders representing CPD officers get off thier asses and get vocal with COPA, use yourhigh priced lawyers and shut this conduct down.Dont say a word or go down there with a lawyer.
So we cant pull a complaint on investigators to the attorney general?
Kinda like a Detective putting a felony complaint in without an actual victim?
Everyone can be sued... the FOP need to find the asshat with the most complaints and file a civil suit against them for VIOLATIONS OF STATE RIGHTS OR LAWS. Keep in mind those investigation can put people in prison.
FOP need to be more bite and less teeth. With so many retirees on board i really dont think they appreciate how the city works now.
I don’t like hearing this, but: COPA investigates allegation of excessive force as directed by MCC title 2, chapter 2-78. COPA members when acting as the reporting party are exempt from the sworn affidavit requirement and it sounds like they are taking it upon themselves to act as the complainant, which is within policy, albeit shitty.
My question is why does COPA never tell you the outcome of an investigation? Its been 2 years and still havent found out if I cleared from the bs CR.
Maybe police should show up to the interview with bwc.
Just don’t show
COPA investigators are incredibly incompetent (most it seems) and the entire entity is hell bent on fucking coppers over. They are overburdened and seem to make up their own rules as they plug along. They DO NOT give two shits about violating any CBA when conducting their investigations. On the affidavits they are simply writing "Refer to statement." -or words similar- and having the complainants sign them. Complete nonsense. FOIA your investigations! All you need is an email address. Say what you will about BIA, I'd rather have them than the other.
Anyone who thinks things are bad now, there’s a serious thought to a Metro Police Dept. Somehow Leo Schmitz is supposed to combine all agencies into one. Whoever has Lori’s ear had her convinced multiple disfunctional departments can unite as a super department.
It’s rather simple...
Secure counsel via FOP or the PBPA before you agree to meet a COPA “investigator” under the guise of being interviewed only a “witness”. If your respective union declines to provide you counsel, refuse to go down there and/or give any statement until properly represented.
And if push comes to shove, just do what Dude Inc does - demand an attorney be provided to you since you can’t afford one. Cite the high cost of living in this shithole, ever-rising property taxes, having to send your kids to private schools because CPS is filled with felons and sex abusers and not seeing a contract/raise for over 2 - 3 years as reasons the taxpayers need to pay for your lawyer.
And if your visit to COPA as “witness” turns into “accused” without a mouthpiece present, inform the investigator(s) that you’ll be leaving immediately. Say nothing and get up and scoot. They can’t make you stay, depriving you of freedom of movement. Although I’d love to see them try that shit with someone who knows better.
A man much wiser than most told us shortly arriving in the ghetto: 1) don’t trust these motherfuckers as far as you’d be able to throw them - they sell their own mothers out to stay outta jail and 2) a fish doesn’t get caught if it keeps its mouth shut. The lesson here? The COPA turds will lie to you to get you to spill your guts and let you paint yourself into a corner. Do NOT give them ANYTHING without legal representation present.
Fuck YOU, COPA!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey SCC there’s news of the tac teams getting cut down to just 3 teams (10 officers/1 Sgt per team)
I guess this is Groots way of cutting OT costs
9/14/2019 02:15:00 AM
The order has ALWAYS been there. Each commander must justify why he needs more than 3 teams yearly. Might want to check facts before posting.
Good Job!
You Coppers are making those assholes at COPA
go hungry where they thought they were going to feast.
That's why they're being forced to
resort to dirty shit like this.
Is there any way you guys can get COPA employees
administratively and legally fucked-up, fired,
financially destroy them and their families
and put in prison?
Or would they cry to the community and to the
media and accuse you of racism and retaliation
against them for "just doing their jobs?"
Is your union doing anything to help you
or are they only interested in being a
city hall controlled opposition in order
to walk you guys to a total stand-still
in the name of "gentleman's honor" and
"playing nice" so as to not give the
impression that the cops can and will
punch back?
Aren't you guys tired of having to always
show that you have restraint and to always
have to prove that you can "take it?"
No other group of municipal employees
are forced to labor under conditions
like these so why is it that Chicago
Cops are compelled to labor under these
conditions?
COPA unlike it’s predecessor does not give you a audio copy of your interview. This act forces an individual into not having a reliable copy of of the interview.
Going to COPA/IAD, etc? You need someone with you for emotional support. Better then the FOP or maybe the same.
https://nypost.com/2019/09/13/man-being-fired-brings-emotional-support-clown-to-meeting/
OT Heads Up:
Effective Monday, Sept 16th, 2019....
A 15 day Enforcement Grace Period for City Stickers that are Expired takes effect.
So going forward, Sept 2019 City Sticker? Ticket eligible as of October 16 @12am.
Please tell me this doesn't surprise you. Just what part of they really hate you, you don't understand? Your in their sights and the are itching to pull the trigger often.
Earlier commenter wanted to know why two cars are still assigned to Rahm’s house? I want to know why Richie Daley still has an on duty security specialist assigned as his driver. He’s been gone 8 years so if that’s any indication Rahm’s detail will be forever.
Give them ALL the dry, flavorless, unexciting,
by-the-numbers, non-sexy, non-proactive,
strictly self-protective Policing they can
stomach.
9/14/2019 12:54:00 AM
Don't Give them Shit.
Stay in your box and keep on view a vehicle that is No Plates and Covered VIN.
Unless it is a Officer Needs assistance 10-1 call.....You're down on a Confidential VIN Check....
9-76-160 A & B: It shall be illegal to park or stand any vehicle on the roadway when it is in violation of the Registration Plates Ordinance.
[UPDATE] Apologies. we misread part of the e-mail. The COPA-cabana boys are refusing to even show officers a signed affidavit before, curing or after questioning, which is the foundation of every CR number that we've been a part of.
Labels: department issues
I beg your pardon but the original cabana boy is the Sgt currently hiding in the case management office at Area North...
They are Shit lawyers who couldn’t get a real job
O.J. (Orange Jumpsuit) Simpson
Chances are your first impressions were right
Does that retired Deputy Chief’s sons still smoke cannibis in his yard in Talley’s corner? Was he ever called for a piss test?
Everyone that ever pissed hot for marijuana should sue to get the job back. Everyone that was not hired because of blowing the piss test for marijuana should also sue and get on this wonderful job.
What a long strange road it’s been. Like the Grateful Dead said.
don’t like hearing this, but: COPA investigates allegation of excessive force as directed by MCC title 2, chapter 2-78. COPA members when acting as the reporting party are exempt from the sworn affidavit requirement and it sounds like they are taking it upon themselves to act as the complainant, which is within policy, albeit shitty.
9/14/2019 11:59:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
My question is why doe
read our contract, they csn only go by what the original accuser(s) allegations are. COPA are not magicians so don't let them blow smoke up your ass
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anyone who thinks things are bad now, there’s a serious thought to a Metro Police Dept. Somehow Leo Schmitz is supposed to combine all agencies into one. Whoever has Lori’s ear had her convinced multiple disfunctional departments can unite as a super department.
9/14/2019 02:17:00 PM
Just because you post it again in a new thread that still doesn't make it any more believable. You really think Lightfoot and Preckwinkle are going to agree on that? Get real.
OT markmanship update. 6 room temp and 11 wounded. Great shooting folks. Have the BLM marches started yet? Didn't think so.
Just plead the fifth at any COPA interview. Or dinnnen see nonnthing.
Please always bring an attorney with you. They are the worst I have seen in comparison to OPS and IPRA. Hopefully they will burn in Hell in the afterlife after being victimized by the predators that they protect in this life.
Can't be that important.
Closed weekends.
Opens 9 AM Monday.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
COPA unlike it’s predecessor does not give you a audio copy of your interview. This act forces an individual into not having a reliable copy of of the interview.
9/14/2019 03:34:00 PM
Question.
Under the terms of your CBA, are you entitled to a copy of the audio of your interview with IPRA/IAD/OPS/COPA?
If yes...file the Labor Law Violation with the State and Fed Labor Boards.
If no...
I’m hiding under a rock until I retire in 2020! Fuck you lori, Johnson, copa , and all the useless bosses that make this job suck.
0334PM
Not correct. The interview is video recorded and one is given a DVD copy of the interview afterwards. At least that was my experience earlier this summer.
When they ask you to come down make sure you're clocked in, drive on down and meet with them.
Give them your name, and birthdate. Any other questions: "I'm invoking my right to remain silent. Am I under arrest?" If they say "No", get up and leave immediately. And keep your mouth shut.
If they say "Yes", say "Lawyer". Then keep your mouth shut.
Do not talk to these scheisters w/o the presence of an attorney.
Install Flock Safety plate readers in high crime areas.
They flag "hot" plates. 70% of all crimes involve a vehicle.
Crime increases during summer months.
Sales to police and neighborhood associations.
COPA, serve for free, get the FLOCK!
The more I encounter people the more I resent people. People are STUPID. Be safe and God Bless!
Will Barry Manilow be singing there?
Hey SCC there’s news of the tac teams getting cut down to just 3 teams (10 officers/1 Sgt per team)
I guess this is Groots way of cutting OT costs
Been that way for about 30 years, kid.
Does that shaddy dog ass Burke still get security ?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
When they ask you to come down make sure you're clocked in, drive on down and meet with them.
Give them your name, and birthdate. Any other questions: "I'm invoking my right to remain silent. Am I under arrest?" If they say "No", get up and leave immediately. And keep your mouth shut.
If they say "Yes", say "Lawyer". Then keep your mouth shut.
Do not talk to these scheisters w/o the presence of an attorney.
9/14/2019 08:12:00 PM
Ummmmm.....it doesn’t quite work like that. But good luck
Off topic, so CPS got crucified for allowing sexual abuse and assault to occur, to such an extent that they are under a form of consent decree. The mayor is still pandering to them, even though they refused a 16 percent offer for a raise. Why is that? Shouldn't there be some accountability in CPS for this, as in firings, criminal charges. Exactly what schools did these sex crimes occur in? Shouldn't the public know that also?
Word from a concerned Federal Source says the Feds were focused on a serious unrelated matter in Rogers Park (024) but have 5 solid years of a days footman passed out drunk in his personnel car every single day. It’s so bad the agents have videos of him with a lit cigar they actually remove and put bubble gum cigars in his mouth. The Feds Supvervision has changed and the new by the book boss doesn’t want to release the videos to the CPD and cause a rift between departments. The alternative is download these to YouTube to call out whoever is the parking lot Sgt and days W/C so they step up their game. How can you let a severely drunk officer sleep in your parking lot every single day or pass out on a major blvd. The videos are frightening.
The City ordinance granting COPA waiver over needing sworn complaints can be challenged in court.
COPA and its employees are not exempted from Section 1983 (civil rights violations) in Illinois or Federal Courts.
There is NO discussion in the real world (outside City and maybe Tommy Dart) over making all Cook County one police department; most suburbs frankly aren't that stupid or desperate.
If the FOP and its lawyers won't do anything, consider joining an outside legal plan, such as ICOPS (Illinois Council of Police) Legal Plan, which is open to non-ICOPS members.
(link: https://icops.org/icops-legal-plan/). Police officers have the right to *effective* legal representation, and FOP can't/won't deliver.
Is there anything preventing us from recording COPA interview? Just hit record on your phone, place on the table, and let them know you are recording. If they refuse, refuse to talk, walk away.
read our contract, they csn only go by what the original accuser(s) allegations are.
Wrong.
Fuck COPA...
Tell them to disclose their "observations" in the form
of a complaint FIRST so that the Officers can properly
defend themselves instead of being administratively
blind-sided and put into a perjury trap because of this
illegal/unethical administrative perjury trap designed
to increase COPA's hit rate in face of The Police being
in headlong retreat from any interaction with the public.
Your right. The IL Police Officers Bill of Rights strictly prohibits this. they are in violation of the law. Look it up COPA.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Word from a concerned Federal Source says the Feds were focused on a serious unrelated matter in Rogers Park (024) but have 5 solid years of a days footman passed out drunk in his personnel car every single day. It’s so bad the agents have videos of him with a lit cigar they actually remove and put bubble gum cigars in his mouth. The Feds Supvervision has changed and the new by the book boss doesn’t want to release the videos to the CPD and cause a rift between departments. The alternative is download these to YouTube to call out whoever is the parking lot Sgt and days W/C so they step up their game. How can you let a severely drunk officer sleep in your parking lot every single day or pass out on a major blvd. The videos are frightening.
9/15/2019 12:44:00 AM
Lol, yeah right. If you want to drop a dime on the drunk, just do so. But don't think some elaborate made-up fairy tale is going to fly. Like the feds have to secretly back door this guy on a federally run drunk-cops YouTube channel.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Word from a concerned Federal Source says the Feds were focused on a serious unrelated matter in Rogers Park (024) but have 5 solid years of a days footman passed out drunk in his personnel car every single day. It’s so bad the agents have videos of him with a lit cigar they actually remove and put bubble gum cigars in his mouth. The Feds Supvervision has changed and the new by the book boss doesn’t want to release the videos to the CPD and cause a rift between departments. The alternative is download these to YouTube to call out whoever is the parking lot Sgt and days W/C so they step up their game. How can you let a severely drunk officer sleep in your parking lot every single day or pass out on a major blvd. The videos are frightening.
9/15/2019 12:44:00 AM
The Concerned Federal Source should either put up or shut up. It is not hard to get that sort of info to the Right type of media people. By right type...I mean the ones I know.
Exactly what schools did these sex crimes occur in? Shouldn't the public know that also?
9/14/2019 10:55:00 PM
Do a damn FOIA pal.
You sit around waiting for the Lame Stream Media to throw CPS under the bus for something that Exempts in CPS were trying to cover up and you'll go blue.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic, so CPS got crucified for allowing sexual abuse and assault to occur, to such an extent that they are under a form of consent decree. The mayor is still pandering to them, even though they refused a 16 percent offer for a raise. Why is that? Shouldn't there be some accountability in CPS for this, as in firings, criminal charges. Exactly what schools did these sex crimes occur in? Shouldn't the public know that also?
9/14/2019 10:55:00 PM
Agree and notice how all the executives at the top who bear ultimate responsibility,got promoted and more money,yes mayor all the children as pawns and you did nothing to change this culture at the top. But then again you let CPD continue with the massive amount of do nothing sickening brass as they continue their do nothing quest. Big paychecks,big bellies and zero respect from the once hardworking coppers that actually did the work wearing Blue shirts!
Ummmmm.....it doesn’t quite work like that. But good luck
9/14/2019 10:52:00 PM
unless you are ordered to speak to a COPA investigator you do not have to do so. Then, I would say you must be given your administrative rights and have a right to have a representative present. Have things changed?
Hey!! COPA has "Red Flag" laws!
Anonymous said...
Ummmmm.....it doesn’t quite work like that. But good luck
9/14/2019 10:52:00 PM
unless you are ordered to speak to a COPA investigator you do not have to do so. Then, I would say you must be given your administrative rights and have a right to have a representative present. Have things changed?
9/15/2019 02:30:00 PM
Yes you are ordered to go down there and answer questions and have representation. Why would someone go there for the hell of it? The only way to speak to them is by being ordered and you have to cooperate or be fired.
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