HQ Disaster in the Making
With the upcoming "purge" of HQ personnel, we get word of some disturbing changes that Groot seems to have (A) overlooked or (B) just doesn't care about:
Is the Legal Department aware? The FOP?
The only sure way to (partially) prevent sensitive information from leaking out is to make sure your name appears on as little paperwork as possible.
- One of the civilians being trained at HQ to handle incoming subpoenas is coming directly from COPA. She has zero knowledge of police work or police databases, yet is expected to be able to fulfill incoming subpoenas from experienced (and heavy) law firms with three days training.
Previously, officers underwent six months of training and had to complete a probationary period. The amount of personal information contained in some of these files (TRR, IODs, Log Numbers, Personnel Jackets, previous lawsuits, settlements, etc.) is incredible and it's running through a civilian who usually wouldn't have access to any of it unless as a sworn officer.
Is the Legal Department aware? The FOP?
The only sure way to (partially) prevent sensitive information from leaking out is to make sure your name appears on as little paperwork as possible.
Labels: safety issues
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
68 Comments:
If you only knew the worthless gossip drama queens assigned to 35th then you would be happy to have more civilians at HQ. There are 3 female POs in the 1st deputy office that should be fired or maybe even in jail. Field inquiry has two known drunks. Research & development has a chick whose more of a stripper than an officer, just nasty yuk. So I would rather have civilians working there that can be fired than the worthless trash we have there now. And don't get me started on the dumb blonde captain handling the contact card mess.
SCC said "there is extensive information that should be seen only by properly vetted sworn members, subject to Department discipline and a chain-of-command."
I ask, is this still possible given the state of some of the shit we see going on at all levels at CPD affairs?
Makes me sad for all the people on the job that took it on as they cared about helping. Now you get fucked on Monday morning for helping. How very, very sad. To my law abiding, non-LEO ass policing is dead in this city and we are all fucked unless you have a parachute.
Did I miss something? Since when do we pull Officers out
Of a Squad car that has been involved in an accident.
Officer was pulled out of the car, placed on the ground while her head was held. Equipment taken off and for whatever
reason the pants were cut. LEMART training does not make you a Doctor or Paramedic. The harm you may have done cause of your actions please think first. Only in extreme circumstances is an Officer to be pulled out of a car. Think of the force it takes to flip an ambulance on it's side. SLOW DOWN PLEASE...
When do laws or legality matter in this City? They hire their own inspector general. No one can find corruption?
Can’t wait to see that disaster in the making.,
C'mon now, these SJW Marxist bastards are the smartest people in the room and you stupid cops, oh well, you're just a bunch of bigoted, drunk, Irish men. I started with the department in the mid 90's and it wasn't that way 25 over years ago. But hey, the smartest marxist in the room knows it's that still that way. These dumb shites haven't learned anything new in decades. That's just one of the reasons they're dumb as a bag of shit. You know it's true!
Hell, you can just barely trust some of the cops that work here. Can you imagine the treachery that one of these SJW/race baiting civilians will be up to?
Hard to believe:
Richard M. Daley: b. 1942
Lori L. Lightfoot: b. 1962
I hope you realize that SHE hates us and doesn’t care!
This would be a great opportunity for the city to hire retired officers (part-time) of course to fill these positions. I would have no issues of a retired P.O. vs. a civilian snooping into my personal jacket.
Just another way to insure the Chicago Way prevails. Money under the table to new civilian will gum up the wheels of justice. This person must have some heavy clout to get that position. Will be interesting to get background of individual.
This department is running o it’s own... Rules are being made as we go.
Not to worry, the FOP will put the department “on notice.”
Like to see what goes on in little tiny suburbs..
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At the general FOP meeting, Graham stated that was one of FOP concerns in that putting a civilian in some of those positions exposes members sensitive information.
It would be a good job for someone on disability who still wants to work.
I’m not sure sure this is a partial clarification. But for the past few months, when subpoenas come in they have been forwarded to that unit of responsibility for what ever the subpoena is requesting and it is there responsibility to forward the information back. So hope fully there is another layer of protection Incase this person doesn’t have a clue
Put the Police on the street what they were hired to do NOT a paper desk job ! We need more help on the street period !
The CPD d so mice were the only ones taking the fetal police idea to heart. Maybe they can teach you all what being feral is all about. They are experts in time wasting and clock watching. So observe and learn how it’s done. Fetal policing is an art form and the d so many CS are ALL masters.
FYI, most of the idiots at HQ have ZERO knowledge of police work ! That's why they're there and not in the trenches !
Why are the civilian employees of the department not receiving the same type and level of background investigation that the sworn officers receive?
This mayor and other assorted politicians could give a rats ass about us or if any sensitive information is give out against us. Remember you 3 year wonders and you clout merit hacks in specialize units if you get jammed up don't come crying to the wiser police for sympathy or look for FOP to save you good luck
You are aware DOD employs MANY civilians who are in contact with sensitive information? This narrative that only an officer can do this or that is complete bullshit to protect the clout babies and their spots. I wouldn’t trust half the coppers I’ve worked with over the past 25 years. And many more are just straight up incompetent.
The problem here in Chicago is that many civilians are hired because of their clout, not how qualified/competent they are in performing on a daily basis. So either way, we are screwed and the Machine marches on.
clean out every police officer from patrolman to lieutenant from police headquarters , homan square and city hall .
Guarentee some of that info will "find" its way to COPA.
i agree, you name on as little paperwork as is possible is the answer. to that end, only make contact with Citizens when you must, and i mean must, do so. Make any stops or encounters be warrant based or a serious crime witnessed only.
Interestingly,the public will be on board with that because then their names will be on less paperwork also. Sounds like a win win to me.
The two drunks in Field Inquiry are civilians. Also, you are wrong about how easy it is to fire them. Those dog civilians have more rights than a PO.
Someone who knows..
She want to run the department like a corporation......not a police department.
Good luck. Just remember to fund my pension.
There are many that should go from HQ... others actually are good at what they do
and should stay where they are.... I personally appreciate a sworn in the medical section
helping me as opposed to a civilian that doesn’t care & screws up my file
Anonymous said...
This would be a great opportunity for the city to hire retired officers (part-time) of course to fill these positions. I would have no issues of a retired P.O. vs. a civilian snooping into my personal jacket.
10/21/2019 06:01:00 AM
Funny you would say that I was just interviewed for the second interview last Friday, they told me they should start the hiring January 1 of 2020 at the district level and at headquarters buildings plus various detective bureau’s looks like you’re serious gonna be putting many many on the street where they belong anyway I’ve been retired for four years the pay is pretty decent definitely not what we were making a Patrolman patrolman but decent part time gig thanks FOP!
Years ago I was driving home in my own private vehicle, off duty, when a taxi hit me. At the deposition the other attorney had my entire personnel file. Including my application for employment, medical history (understood, except I was not claiming any injury) IAD file, efficiency ratings, history of residences, the ENTIRE file, for a simple traffic accident. WHY????? I did not give anyone the authority to give out this information and it did not have any relation to the Department.
I inquired to the Legal Affairs Department and the only answer given was the "subpoena" submitted by the other law office. Nothing to do with the department, department vehicle or any breach of department rules. Why the disciplinary file (nothing to hide there), every 6 month ratings for my entire career and IAD complaints. I wonder if I had been employed by any private company that my entire personnel file would have been turned over. I doubt it with all the "rights of privacy" that are honored by civilian employment.
I can see that lazy or untrained personnel will hand out "non-related private information" just because of a request. I'm sure this information will be shared by unscrupulous law firms (redundant) to the detriment of the officers.
If you only knew the worthless gossip drama queens assigned to 35th then you would be happy to have more civilians at HQ. There are 3 female POs in the 1st deputy office that should be fired or maybe even in jail. Field inquiry has two known drunks. Research & development has a chick whose more of a stripper than an officer, just nasty yuk. So I would rather have civilians working there that can be fired than the worthless trash we have there now. And don't get me started on the dumb blonde captain handling the contact card mess.
Six months training to be assigned. Pure BS, a 6 minute phone call is all it takes. If any of that bs were true they would have have a application requirements seeing your resume. Who make this up like it’s legit
Lori Lightfoot will require proof of residency from all striking CPS employees before they are allowed to return to work and teachers will pay 10% of salary into pension fund , if she had a set of balls ⚽️ ⚽️
Wife on payroll, how convenient for afternoon delights.
Teacher pay freeze , longer hours is what works for the children.
Haha can’t have it both ways! Says house mouse for life
Let’s be fair, GrootFoot came in without an iota of experience of balancing a checkbook, negotiation skills, public speaking, governing, proper diplomatic temperament and look how far she’s come in just 155 days. Ok-ok, she won a scholarship for a gimme law degree, but those only require showing up 66% of the semesters.
Having a stool pigeon from the private sector come in and double their salary and benefits because they came with recommendations isn’t that uncommon, is it?
COPA already snoops and refers cases, having an insider get that private info faster is just making City settlements come quicker.
Rahm the Reformer
PrickWanker the Reformer
GrootLoafer the Reformer.
This reform bidness is expensive, especially during hiring freezes.
Par for the course.
Rahm, and now Groot, have been hellbent on completely destroying this once proud, great department.
Anonymous said...
Not to worry, the FOP will put the department “on notice.”
10/21/2019 06:41:00 AM
Yep. FOP will tell them to knock it off, and they really mean it this time.
I am aware of a few cases in which FOIA requests were not properly vetted and officers personal information were allowed to be placed in the hands of a shyster lawyer working for a defense of one of the bad guys! That may or may not have been in confidence but you know once they go civilian there’s no way to protect the position from the inability of a civilian being put into the job who has a agenda or criminal background being more likely to allow bad guys to collect a database on officers.
Hard to believe:
Richard M. Daley: b. 1942
Lori L. Lightfoot: b. 1962
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How's that hard to believe?
Shortshanks is older, (77) and is preparing for HELL.
Lightfoot's day will come also.
was it Jane Byrne it Harold who gave us awesome pay raises?
"You are aware DOD employs MANY civilians who are in contact with sensitive information?"
And are YOU aware that the DOD does extensive vetting of all potential employees? Many positions require competency exams and EXPERIENCE. Background checks are mandatory and incredibly thorough. Take a look at the civilian employees that CPD currently has on the payroll. How many do you think have experience or could pass a third grade math test, let alone a job related competency exam? And the background checks?? How many red flags do you think have been overlooked for city of Chicago civilian employees? I agree that there are some jobs at HQ that could easily be filled by civilians. But if you think CPD will ever properly vet ANY of them, you're out of your mind. It's no different than filling the spot with a clout baby who has zero relevant experience either, except that at least most of those guys know that they'll be dumped if they fuck up too badly and they'll do anything to avoid the street. A civilian employee has no fear, and a real union (most are AFSCME) to back them up.
Anonymous said...
FYI, most of the idiots at HQ have ZERO knowledge of police work ! That's why they're there and not in the trenches !
10/21/2019 09:50:00 AM
sure, have fun in the trenches ranger
Anonymous said...
Years ago I was driving home in my own private vehicle, off duty, when a taxi hit me. At the deposition the other attorney had my entire personnel file. Including my application for employment, medical history (understood, except I was not claiming any injury) IAD file, efficiency ratings, history of residences, the ENTIRE file, for a simple traffic accident. WHY????? I did not give anyone the authority to give out this information and it did not have any relation to the Department.
I inquired to the Legal Affairs Department and the only answer given was the "subpoena" submitted by the other law office. Nothing to do with the department, department vehicle or any breach of department rules. Why the disciplinary file (nothing to hide there), every 6 month ratings for my entire career and IAD complaints. I wonder if I had been employed by any private company that my entire personnel file would have been turned over. I doubt it with all the "rights of privacy" that are honored by civilian employment.
I can see that lazy or untrained personnel will hand out "non-related private information" just because of a request. I'm sure this information will be shared by unscrupulous law firms (redundant) to the detriment of the officers.
10/21/2019 01:13:00 PM
Most importantly how did they know or suspect that you were a police office? Were you wearing your blue uniform, had fop stickers plastered all over your car, had the checkered hat band hanging from your mirror, etc? Deposition for a car accident? That must have been a pretty bad accident as insurance companies usually settle. Either you’re making shit up or you omitted a lot of info.
Did I miss something? Since when do we pull Officers out
Of a Squad car that has been involved in an accident.
Officer was pulled out of the car, placed on the ground while her head was held. Equipment taken off and for whatever
reason the pants were cut. LEMART training does not make you a Doctor or Paramedic. The harm you may have done cause of your actions please think first. Only in extreme circumstances is an Officer to be pulled out of a car. Think of the force it takes to flip an ambulance on it's side. SLOW DOWN PLEASE...
Observed the same thing on several occasions.Crazy
FOP needs to get a judge to put an injunction on this scandalous move. IMMEDIATELY. No fucking around on this one. Too much at stake. For the reasons noted above.
clean out every police officer from patrolman to lieutenant from police headquarters , homan square and city hall
10/21/2019 10:42:00 AM
I understand how you may say that. However, I've always taken the stance if an officer has put in years (15+) or getting too old to safely be on the street, use that knowledge inside. Plus, you know they've (hopefully) been vetted and understand the security issues. Not everyone should be put back, but those full duty been there for YRS, that I get
Anonymous said...
You are aware DOD employs MANY civilians who are in contact with sensitive information? This narrative that only an officer can do this or that is complete bullshit to protect the clout babies and their spots.
DOD does a phenomenal job in thorough, background checks. Not police hating, 15 seconds of fame social media warriors
Par for the course.
Rahm, and now Groot, have been hellbent on completely destroying this once proud, great department.
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When was this time that you speak of? In the 90s you could be the police, but clout and the politics of race destroyed this long before then. The age of the old school bosses is dead. All we have is clout and affirmative action. Which of the all merit exempts has done the job and earned their rank? The department is done, when Babs "pillows" west gets promoted again, you can sound the death knell. Never did a days police work in her entire life and is a chief? That is an abomination, just like Sharon Price being promoted over the mercy hospital officer who ended the threat. West and price are the from the same pool of useless clouted pieces of shit who never should have made through the hiring process. They are both abominations. But typical of the worst run state in the US.
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Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
This would be a great opportunity for the city to hire retired officers (part-time) of course to fill these positions. I would have no issues of a retired P.O. vs. a civilian snooping into my personal jacket.
10/21/2019 06:01:00 AM
Funny you would say that I was just interviewed for the second interview last Friday, they told me they should start the hiring January 1 of 2020 at the district level and at headquarters buildings plus various detective bureau’s looks like you’re serious gonna be putting many many on the street where they belong anyway I’ve been retired for four years the pay is pretty decent definitely not what we were making a Patrolman patrolman but decent part time gig thanks FOP!
10/21/2019 12:51:00 PM
Do You know how many there going to be hiring I just had my first interview it’s good they’re they are hiring the retired Coppers, Pays better than work and the security jobs for a little part-time gig.
(OT) was at the credit union Friday in the eighth district off of 63rd St., they have one hour parking they had a street signs posted vehicles are parked there all day diagonally parked, I asked the manager of the credit union why are these cars not ticketed they said they called the eighth district a copper came out and said they cannot ticket the cars because they are parked on a city street signs are clearly posted what kind of bullshit is this we can’t even take care of the people that take care of us
SCC: Remember the civilian employee who was caught gathering personal information from PO’s gun registration records?
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Anonymous said...
"You are aware DOD employs MANY civilians who are in contact with sensitive information?"
And are YOU aware that the DOD does extensive vetting of all potential employees? Many positions require competency exams and EXPERIENCE. Background checks are mandatory and incredibly thorough. Take a look at the civilian employees that CPD currently has on the payroll. How many do you think have experience or could pass a third grade math test, let alone a job related competency exam? And the background checks?? How many red flags do you think have been overlooked for city of Chicago civilian employees? I agree that there are some jobs at HQ that could easily be filled by civilians. But if you think CPD will ever properly vet ANY of them, you're out of your mind. It's no different than filling the spot with a clout baby who has zero relevant experience either, except that at least most of those guys know that they'll be dumped if they fuck up too badly and they'll do anything to avoid the street. A civilian employee has no fear, and a real union (most are AFSCME) to back them up.
10/21/2019 05:00:00 PM
Yes I am aware, I didn’t feel like going into detail but you did, so thank you!
Mr. Fenner has to go. And take your cheating wife with you
FYI all civilians members of the police department have to take a test get fingerprinted ,drug tested and take a polygraph test to get hired just like the police do. So we are all in the same boat.
FYI all civilians members of the police department have to take a test get fingerprinted ,drug tested and take a polygraph test to get hired just like the police do. So we are all in the same boat.
10/21/2019 10:54:00 PM
Um, okay but CPD also (used to) had to pass a battery of PSYCHOLOGICAL TESTS
lorilooks the same age as Daley
we hated shortshanks but Rahm and lightfoot are worse , both way over their head
Anonymous Anonymous said...
(OT) was at the credit union Friday in the eighth district off of 63rd St., they have one hour parking they had a street signs posted vehicles are parked there all day diagonally parked, I asked the manager of the credit union why are these cars not ticketed they said they called the eighth district a copper came out and said they cannot ticket the cars because they are parked on a city street signs are clearly posted what kind of bullshit is this we can’t even take care of the people that take care of us
CPD can’t ticket a car because it’s parked on a city street?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This would be a great opportunity for the city to hire retired officers (part-time) of course to fill these positions. I would have no issues of a retired P.O. vs. a civilian snooping into my personal jacket.
But could they pass the 6 month trading and the probationary period. Lol. Can u believe that. Haven’t seen anyone sent down there returned
You are aware DOD employs MANY civilians who are in contact with sensitive information? This narrative that only an officer can do this or that is complete bullshit to protect the clout babies and their spots. I wouldn’t trust half the coppers I’ve worked with over the past 25 years. And many more are just straight up incompetent.
The problem here in Chicago is that many civilians are hired because of their clout, not how qualified/competent they are in performing on a daily basis. So either way, we are screwed and the Machine marches on.
10/21/2019 10:27:00 AM
Similar to how they get to those spots on the CPD
Most importantly how did they know or suspect that you were a police office? Were you wearing your blue uniform, had fop stickers plastered all over your car, had the checkered hat band hanging from your mirror, etc? Deposition for a car accident? That must have been a pretty bad accident as insurance companies usually settle. Either you’re making shit up or you omitted a lot of info.
10/21/2019 06:43:00 PM
Sounds like he filed a lawsuit against the taxi company and they were fighting it. If you sue for lost wages, or disability, etc., all your work records and past injuries come into play.
It’s 2019 and everyone is an open book. Anyone gets an officers name from a ticket or arrest can google it on White pages, people search, yahoo and can come up with a name , address and related people. Done by age, area of city little harder if a real common name. Not to mention Facebook or Instagram. Recall that happening a little while back where officers attending a meeting in civilian clothes were identified making comments on line. Sensitive info leaking like anytime you fill out a mortgage, any medical info when you call BC/BS customer service who both have all civilians viewing your individual and family info. College aid, credit card applications and how about the new website that lists everything about you, CR’s, founded, unfounded who you were with. Just a few examples, not to mention any job related lawsuit where you are deposed by a lawyer who has all civilians viewing the info
My point is in today’s day and age it’s hard to keep any information confidential
FYI all civilians members of the police department have to take a test get fingerprinted ,drug tested and take a polygraph test to get hired just like the police do. So we are all in the same boat.
100% wrong.
"FYI all civilians members of the police department have to take a test get fingerprinted ,drug tested and take a polygraph test to get hired just like the police do. So we are all in the same boat."
Not true. We have MANY civilian employees who only had to be fingerprinted and drug tested (and quite a few who failed, but were given second and even third chances). No polygraph, no other test. How do I know? Because I've had to process many of their hiring packets. It's a joke. We've had a few that just flat out refused to answer certain personal identification questions and were hired anyway. Nothing but the best around here!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
(OT) was at the credit union Friday in the eighth district off of 63rd St., they have one hour parking they had a street signs posted vehicles are parked there all day diagonally parked, I asked the manager of the credit union why are these cars not ticketed they said they called the eighth district a copper came out and said they cannot ticket the cars because they are parked on a city street signs are clearly posted what kind of bullshit is this we can’t even take care of the people that take care of us
CPD can’t ticket a car because it’s parked on a city street?
10/22/2019 11:25:00 AM
I was just over there today it is diagonal parking on a city street big signs are up there one hour parking cars are parked there all day so yes open your eyes look at the signs you can write some tickets I don’t work in the eighth district if I did I would be glad to do that to help out some of our own!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
SCC: Remember the civilian employee who was caught gathering personal information from PO’s gun registration records?
What can you get from gun registration? Name, address and phone number. Anyone can get that online
BGA has all civilians and they list salaries of police officers. I’m sure IRS, mortgage companies and loans can check your CPD income there
Much to do about nothing. Nothing will change. Exempts will ignore the mayors orders and do as they want. On paper the inside jobs will be gone , but in reality the officers will be detailed back
Weiss said no watch secretaries , they all stayed
Medical section was going to replace nurses, they are still there. There’s a perfect example that knocks out the theory of sworn protecting you sensitive information. Civilians work there and have access to all your files. You see them bringing out the folders from the filing cabinets
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