Just Get Out of Schools Already
"New" restrictions, but seriously, there's no reason for CPD to be in the schools:
- Chicago police officers posted at schools are no longer allowed to intervene in student discipline but will, at least for the time being, remain in more than 110 schools.
Those are among the changes laid out in a $33 million agreement between Chicago Public Schools and the Chicago Police Department — the details of which have been newly released — that sets the ground-rules for a much maligned program that puts officers in school buildings.
CPD cops called “school resource officers” have been in CPS schools for years, but concern over a school-to-prison pipeline that sees students arrested for in-school behavior has ratcheted up the intense public scrutiny on the program in recent years. A few notable incidents of excessive force have shined the spotlight even stronger in the past year.
The schools don't want us there. In fact, the myth of a "school-to-prison-pipeline" should have been the final straw. We can't even count the number of incidents of what the law would define as criminal behavior that are reclassified as hi-jinks or shenanigans that the school would rather handle with "in-school suspensions" or "restorative justice," none of which involve the police and none of which actually deter aggressive bullying criminal behavior.
Beck, get us out of the schools and back on the streets where police belong. Let CPS pay off-duty cops and sheriffs for security.
Beck, get us out of the schools and back on the streets where police belong. Let CPS pay off-duty cops and sheriffs for security.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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1 and 1/2 year otj female in 024 assigned to schools. In fact, more "less than 2 years on the job" people were given inside tact sec. spots or foot posts than ever before. 024 is the switchboard for a phone call. The good news is the guys with 20+ years on still handle the calls.
This is no different than western militaries pulling out of the Middle East/ South Korea and Japan.
Nothing but death and dying on Monday morning if we were to leave on a Friday.
Bet.
So stupid. Just a matter of time before some kid snaps and takes it out on a classroom. Kid in Florida should have been locked up but they kept trying to sweep it under the rug until one day....bang
Oh yeah, I want to be a school resource officer.
A 6'4 180 lb student attacks you and you are fortunate enough to survive...
The media will report that a policeman beat a child in school and show a pre pubescent photo .
Where do I sign up ?
I agree ! Those creeps at Barnard elementary school (gateway to Beverly) replaced
2 fine CPD officers (p/t security) with a mope from CPS and pay him a full time wage
with benefits! A losing proposition to the tax payers. That CPS principal couldn’t care
less about CPD or the dedicated service those off duty officers provided to the children
or community. Believe it or not, a rapport was established with the children and parents!
They were not the villains the media paints police to be.
Broward County and that burglar Trayvon Martin were there forerunner of the "SRO" and part of that Communist in Chief scumbag obamas Restorative Justice agenda. See how well that worked out for Broward and "skittles."
That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard since the election of Foxx as states attorney. If the police can’t interfere who is going to stop all the trouble in Chicago high schools? I worked in a CPS high school for 20 years and must have broken up 200 fights. I thanked god that the police were there and came quickly to the scene before it really got out of hand. Please get the officers out of the building and then the CPS can figure a way to control the violence they claim does not exist.
Let CPS use it as a side job for their clouded friends.
Those ‘kids’ are there to learn, not cause disturbances. The public is told that science, math, language, graduation rates are up, up, up...almost on par with China! These ‘children’ have no time for guns, baby making, Red Line mayhem, downtown destruction cuz they wants 2 learn how to spell, write, speak and split an atom!
CPS hires mopes off the street to be security guards without the required 2-3 years of security experience or any work experience, most often older gangbangers assigned to control their shorties and shitheads caught in a reverse time warp of how school works and getting a chance with teenage girls.
Or these mopes are political hires got some favor to help keep the mope from selling drugs and off the corner. These mopes then start their own dating service with the girls by touching, rubbing, and kissing on them.
It doesn't take but a minute to Google 'CPS security guard arrested for inappropriate behavior with a student' and up pops Walter Wells (Hubbard), Casino Cruz (Clemente), Ellis Davis (Juarez), Samuel Pearson and Luis Jaime Lopez (Steinmetz), John Laney (Taft), Ivan Cotto, and incidents at Austin, Foreman, Lane, Brentanno, and all over the city.
What type of training does CPS gove their security guards in lieu of the 2-3 years of security experience? It's a three day training course where the mopes sweat when asked what their addresses are or where they stay, if they were ever arrested, if they do or sell drugs, and all the while texting on their phones, talking over the instructors, leaving after signing in, and eating flaming hot something.
Remember Obama said you have to punish the black and white kids the same? One group was getting more detentions and that was unfair. Schools are done in the inner city thanks to liberal policies. They ruin everything they touch. Get out.
Since they don’t want us in the schools, let’s also work on us having to live in the city.
I get it that it’s a spot with weekends off, but it’s way too risky now.
CPS/CTU hates this country back to our founders. CPD is the face and fist of Obama’s “school to prison pipeline”.
I’d love to see CPD out of Board of Ed facilities (never call them schools), but it won’t happen.
You will be kept in these places as scape goats.
Imagine the fuck storm of epic proportions that would result if CPD pulled out and a mass slaughter took place in one of these shitholes.
Where were the fuckin’ cops, man?
Finally, why the fuck would you get involved in their discipline issues anyways?
OT, isn’t it wonderful that the Chicago Bulls are a losing team and hopefully for many many years. It’s been so nice there hasn’t been any “celebrations” in other wards looting and riots on the south and west sides of the city.
What this fails to mention is that every school LSC voted to keep their SRO’s. Every single one. Even Marshal. The parents want the school officers there. You have to change the culture of the principals and teachers using us as muscle for their dirty work. There are clear guidelines and rules as to what we can and can’t do in schools and school officers need to stick to that and let security and the principals deal with discipline. We’re there for criminal matters only not for discipline of students. I’m a CPS parent and i want a cop in my kids school. With all the fucking crazies out there I want someone in my school just in case.
1 and 1/2 year otj female in 024 assigned to schools. In fact, more "less than 2 years on the job" people were given inside tact sec. spots or foot posts than ever before. 024 is the switchboard for a phone call. The good news is the guys with 20+ years on still handle the calls.
So I hear 024 has a two year wonder that has his own little office and walks around like a hot sho, and a bunch of do nothing tact guys with less than three years that are nowhere to be found when there's a vice/gang complaint. Looks like 024 has become the new hiding spot for those with a phone call, including that new Sgt they have on midnights.
"school-to-prison pipeline"
I am all for that... If there is one, it moves to slow and is clogged. Drano anyone?
Sure beats the school to street crime, to Kimbo Foxx doing nothing, to same 'Rhodes Scholars' being back on the street to do more crime pipeline.
Alot NEW general orders dealing with what the POLICE cant do!!
And they all seem to do with arrest.
Cant body slam asshole3 who lick your face stinking like vodka
Cant lock up piss bums who steal baby formula then piss on themselve acting crazy
Cant issue an alert because a clouted judge said that his job
Cant lock up anyone on red line cause they all juvies and need a daddy
MR MAYOR lightfoot awfully worried about getting that weed up and running while people are getting killed out here in the streets.
keep playing you aint seen FETAL YET your exempts are joining the party...
Some CPD School Sgts, did not help the situation. They would play politics with the School Administration, catering to the administrations every need. Moreless telling the school administration, whatever you need our officers for, is no problem. Turning the Police Officer into a School Security Guard, a Dean of Students, as well as counselors.One would think, the biggest Role of a School Resource Officer, would be to stop and Active Shooter Situation A.S.A.P. But what would I know, I'm just a citizen who supports and appreciates the Police Presence in our Schools.Stay safe Officers and Thank You for what you do.
I see two issues here: one, sworn police officers should not be in the schools, let the school system hire private security. The best way to go is with a contract security company. That way the security officers are not CPS employees and you can let them go at will. Of course, this will open up a golden opportunity for the political class to get a great contract. Maybe Monterey will get the contract or Eddie Acevedo.
~Let CPS pay off-duty cops and sheriffs for security.~
Are Chicago Public Schools now doubling as weed dispensaries and strip clubs? If not, then good luck getting off duties to commit to working in those low class (and low test score!) hell holes.
Individuals who don’t want to be in school usually get suspended eventually for something. When confronted on the street by the police during school hours they are good to go because they are suspended. What’s wrong with this picture?
You are a paid scapegoat. Careful. Some of these principals will call you to be the fall guy. There s no such thing as a violent child . Some of these kids don’t listen to anyone. I work a little school/church gig. I only do church events.
I was detailed for a while inside a high school for furlough relief. Worst assignment ever. How some can stand do it, whether for weekends off or usually little supervision, most days there is always some kid that has a disruptive, violent freak out that causes the rest to unleash.
This is always a CPS problem they won’t respond to. Lazy, absolutely lazy incompetent principals and staff have long accepted this bad behavior.
So this agreement essentially makes the high school details an official acknowledgement to be a do-nothing assignment (like CAPS).
What’s the point of having a $90k non confrontational hall monitor sit around, won’t (and shouldn’t) officiate these problematic CPS incidents?
Certainly a waste of manpower that the Beat could use for something.
There are 165 high schools or facilities designated as learning academies (it’s an accreditation thing) and that could mean there are probably up to 300 or more police officers assigned to referee CPS neglect.
That’s enough for a new District.
The problems of the schools are of their own making. The teacher's unions as well as the entire structure are designed for 'edumacators' getting their's, and f**k the rest of us. If the district was actually interested in turning out a product the whole 'everyone is a scholar' tripe would be dropped and we'd have them doing like every other industrialized country (and what the US did before the Draft send to peaceniks to the teaching ranks) and split the little dears off into vocational, academic and reform tracts. High school teachers don't have the qualifications to teach rigorous courses, and lack the smarts for the shop world. 16 year olds with sufficient SATs can take college track, the thugs can be separated from the business students, and the real discipline can be applied where it is needed. Instead we have the chaos of today, with lousy results (but constant raises). Since we know the clown show isn't going to change, then let them hire their own school police. Of course, that might cramp the budget, but I'm sure that the 'educators'(damn, that sounds stupid) will be willing to take a pay cut. Or just cut school programs, since we know those high rollers in the teacher's union really could give a damn about the students. Either way, the District made their bed, let them lie in it. Fleas and all
In theory they dont want CPD to be there but they know that these youths can't be controlled by liberal teachers and peace circles
Same shit as ParkLand HS in Broward County FL.
That little asshole that shot up the school was kicked out for numerous violations, including verbals threats to shoot everyone and bringing ammo to school, but the assholes running the school didn't want him arrested thanks to that other asshole, Barak Obama's, Promise Program that removed Law Enforcement from the schools.
Oh they will still stick you there...to be a target. But they won't allow you to take action.
Its useful you know. If there is any mass shootings its useful to blame the NRA. In NYNY assaults against teachers are up 50% because of this asshole program that lets the little assholes get away with anything without getting arrested.
This program is why the ParkLand slaughter happened.
1 and 1/2 year otj female in 024 assigned to schools. In fact, more "less than 2 years on the job" people were given inside tact sec. spots or foot posts than ever before. 024 is the switchboard for a phone call. The good news is the guys with 20+ years on still handle the calls.
1/16/2020 12:12:00 AM
Used to be some things don’t change. Now it’s they get worse. New agreement stated no intervention by CPD with disciple so it only makes the job easier for school officers. Great job by the union for pretending officers have seniority. With all these exceptions there is no seniority except in limited spots
As a school resource officer myself & yes I choose to remain anonymous to let you haters let out your feelings. Truth be told, these schools do want us in here, the proof is the LSC of each school was given a chance to vote us out & they didn't. As far as hands on goes, there is none. Let the regular CPS security handle it & we just do the cleaning up on paper if need be. Most people here are going to bash it & that is your right to do so, but I bet a majority of you would like the opportunity to get the gig. Days w/ weekends off? Forget about it! You think I give a flying fuck about these kids? HELL NO! I make it work to my advantage.
Just become the school leader Sgt Schultz, “I saw .nothing” .
I work as an SRO out in the burbs. We have a good working relationship with the school admin but the students are no where like they are in CPS. I would never work in a CPS school. Would rather be a beat car on midnights then risk everything for those hellhole schools.
Even in the burbs you better know your juvenile law. We really cant do much in the schools.
Chief of CPS Security Jadine Chou hates the Police. She is a bitter Emmanuel holdover.
You got it all wrong SCC. The schools were always calling the police to lock up junior for bullshit which should have been handled in house. Principals are afraid to deal with parents and that's why they lock up kids for bullshit.
Good send everyone back to patrol except the Sgt. ‘P’s little girlfriend. She needs to go back to midnight. Never answers up and slips out without swiping.
Are you kidding!
That's an Awesome job. School Security only! The staff can not bother you if asswipe throws a tantrum. Beats pushing beat car.
Only heavy hitters will be able to score that assignment.
Mark my words.
So I hear 024 has a two year wonder that has his own little office and walks around like a hot sho, and a bunch of do nothing tact guys with less than three years that are nowhere to be found when there's a vice/gang complaint. Looks like 024 has become the new hiding spot for those with a phone call, including that new Sgt they have on midnights.
1/16/2020 08:06:00 AM
Over the years tons of half-assed bosses were made there by tiny little tommy the thumb byrne...
I'm still on the job, but I finally made to 2nd watch which was 18 years in the makings. But when I was on 3rd watch, I worked CPS Security at a school for 10 years. My first 3 years were an up hill battle, trying to change the mindset of 1st the Administration at the school, the teachers, the parents and finally the student body. Lots of arrest made, zero tolerance, and I finally started to see the fruits of labor. We dug out of being a think it was called a tier 3 school which is a bad place to be. It took me 3 years to finally see the investment returns. Now that we got the misconduct issue mostly under Control the teachers were now able to begin to teach. By year 6 we can out of tier 3 to tier 2 and we celebrated. This created some noise in our region, like what's going on over at that school. This also attracted better and more talented teachers. Im sorry to say but it's the truth. By year 8 we came out of tier 2 to a tier 1 school. We celebrated once again. The student got to celebrate with us, they bought into the program. We maintained out tier 1 status for tier 1 for my 9th and 10th year. When we relected back everyone gave credit to the 2 policemen they hired 10 years ago. Me and my partner. We would hit the streets at ac3rd watch rapid and we patrolled directly on the beat that our school was located. We were a double edge sword. We would deal with the BS inside the school and we would track you down outside the schools. I loved arresting that parent that was I pain in the rear at school.
Anyway my point is that toward the end of my 10th year we were the writing on the wall. Current principal had announce her retirement and she loved the police. New regime take over and hostile take over, due to the power of the parents. Once that new principal recieved her 3 year contract, her true colors emerged. She was at the school for one month and she has not formally introduced herself to her Security team. First line of business in the 2nd month, me and my partner services were no longer needed. We said our goodbyes. Lots of students were crying, staff was puzzled on this move. The new principal cool, she greets us from the start and she was sent to deliver our pink slips. Half into that year quite a number of teachers choose to transfer out. I was shock, like who transfer she was part of the foundation. In 2 years this principal took that school from a tier 1 back down to a tier 1. The parents gave her another 3 year contract with the exception that she brings me and my partner back to deal with the student misconduct that's out of control. Me and my partner came to Interview and we told her "Fuck You."
Who the hell wants to work at schools?! If that’s the case just get yourself a part time that pays $30-$50 and hour. How the hell does someone even decide to become the police and want to go be a lazy slob at these schools. Has anyone seen this officers? Most are lazy, fat, and can’t even do paper. Not only do some just park outside the schools and sleep but why the hell does someone wear a uniform, calls themselves police officers and always ask for a paper car? Schools don’t need police. They have security. Most of their security are off-duty PO’s. It’s unbelievable. You have this PO’s working the easiest gigs and yet they are the laziest and they even have sergeants for these schools? Get the hell outta here. Work the streets. Be the police. Or at least pretend to be the police. That’s all.
Come on it is winter, will think about getting out when weather warms up. Lots of Netflix time and pretty girls.
Pull the officers out and there will be 10 calls a day at every school. Schools without officers call when they can't control a 9 year old now.
I retired when the CPD left my school due to a change in the administration. I knew I would never be as safe without “Sarge” in the house.
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1 and 1/2 year otj female in 024 assigned to schools. In fact, more "less than 2 years on the job" people were given inside tact sec. spots or foot posts than ever before. 024 is the switchboard for a phone call. The good news is the guys with 20+ years on still handle the calls.A
016 has one “experienced” school officer also. 2.5 years on and he’s been assigned to a school car right after cycles. It’s all legit.
Where does one find this “pipeline” they speak of ???
All of the politicians are afraid to speak the truth.
This is all about the lack of a family unit. No fathers
= children with no discipline, no values, no role models.
Why hasn't the media reported Nefarious and his purse swinging auntee attacked a security guard at Austin High a week or so ago? She came with her sister's boy to argue about why he was gettings suspended.
always appreciated the old time school officers...if you were looking for june bug or trey trey they'd always come up with the little bastard in like seconds. and dismissal time...forget it....coppers, wagons, horses, helio didn't even help.
great sources of info back in the day too
So I hear 024 has a two year wonder that has his own little office and walks around like a hot sho, and a bunch of do nothing tact guys with less than three years that are nowhere to be found when there's a vice/gang complaint. Looks like 024 has become the new hiding spot for those with a phone call, including that new Sgt they have on midnights.
I think it’s been a hiding spot for awhile. A couple of years back I met a 024 tact guy (a guy with some time) and from what I heard has been in tact awhike there. I happened to mention something about Skokie court and he looked at me blank-like and said he’d never been. Really? That said it all for me. Been on tact a dozen years and never had a trial in Skokie? Granted 024 is not 011, but it’s not like there isn’t anything to do. Fetal has been a way of life up there for awhile.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
1 and 1/2 year otj female in 024 assigned to schools. In fact, more "less than 2 years on the job" people were given inside tact sec. spots or foot posts than ever before. 024 is the switchboard for a phone call. The good news is the guys with 20+ years on still handle the calls.
PPO’s and officers under 5 years belong in the fast districts. Gives guys with time on a chance to transfer
To many takin care of bosses and no time on the job coppers hiding in the schools
School Sgt. in the 004th district is awesome, and believe me when I tell you, he has his Officers backs, and never plays politics with the School Administration. You rock Sgt. O. Other Sergeants, in charge of School Resource Officers in Chicago, should follow Sgt.O's lead.
No 3 year wonder should ever be assigned to a school, foot, or any other coveted post. We were hired to work the streets and not run from them, this cowardly hiding behavior is only allowed on CPD.
So in 1988, Area 4 Youth Officer Irma Ruiz died in vain at Moses Montefiore School, 1300 S. Ashland Ave.
If the cop is washing the kids blood off his hands in one sink , and the teacher is doing the same in the next sink kind of makes one think.having been a CPS teacher for over 40 years i can assure you all of us were not pussies.Vocational High Schools had a lot of trade teachers in their shops. Most were men of color.Nobody called any moonlighting officers Security Guards,they were always cops.In that school the cops only had to pick up the pieces, the faculty kept the school under control.
No 3 year wonder should ever be assigned to a school, foot, or any other coveted post. We were hired to work the streets and not run from them, this cowardly hiding behavior is only allowed on CPD.
In 012 ours has only 2 years on.
Check out 020. Sro ready to retire in less than a year gets dumped so the school sgt can bring her boy toy with less than 2 years, from mids to days with weekends off. Typical.....
So much for no cops in schools as an intruder busted through the main entrance and by a Mom security guard at Steinmetz and caused a lockdown. Our POs are told to stay in their office until needed there.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-lockdown-steinmetz-20200117-gd2bxkv7q5fddlmbcr6noh66ai-story.html%3foutputType=amp
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm still on the job, but I finally made to 2nd watch which was 18 years in the makings. But when I was on 3rd watch, I worked CPS Security at a school for 10 years. My first 3 years were an up hill battle, trying to change the mindset of 1st the Administration at the school, the teachers, the parents and finally the student body. Lots of arrest made, zero tolerance, and I finally started to see the fruits of labor. We dug out of being a think it was called a tier 3 school which is a bad place to be. It took me 3 years to finally see the investment returns. Now that we got the misconduct issue mostly under Control the teachers were now able to begin to teach. By year 6 we can out of tier 3 to tier 2 and we celebrated. This created some noise in our region, like what's going on over at that school. This also attracted better and more talented teachers. Im sorry to say but it's the truth. By year 8 we came out of tier 2 to a tier 1 school. We celebrated once again. The student got to celebrate with us, they bought into the program. We maintained out tier 1 status for tier 1 for my 9th and 10th year. When we relected back everyone gave credit to the 2 policemen they hired 10 years ago. Me and my partner. We would hit the streets at ac3rd watch rapid and we patrolled directly on the beat that our school was located. We were a double edge sword. We would deal with the BS inside the school and we would track you down outside the schools. I loved arresting that parent that was I pain in the rear at school.
Anyway my point is that toward the end of my 10th year we were the writing on the wall. Current principal had announce her retirement and she loved the police. New regime take over and hostile take over, due to the power of the parents. Once that new principal recieved her 3 year contract, her true colors emerged. She was at the school for one month and she has not formally introduced herself to her Security team. First line of business in the 2nd month, me and my partner services were no longer needed. We said our goodbyes. Lots of students were crying, staff was puzzled on this move. The new principal cool, she greets us from the start and she was sent to deliver our pink slips. Half into that year quite a number of teachers choose to transfer out. I was shock, like who transfer she was part of the foundation. In 2 years this principal took that school from a tier 1 back down to a tier 1. The parents gave her another 3 year contract with the exception that she brings me and my partner back to deal with the student misconduct that's out of control. Me and my partner came to Interview and we told her "Fuck You."
1/16/2020 05:01:00 PM
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So, for most of your career you have been doing nothing. Good for you. Now be fetal while in a beat car, unless you have another do nothing spot which also lets you be a do nothing cop.
I see two issues here: one, sworn police officers should not be in the schools, let the school system hire private security. The best way to go is with a contract security company. That way the security officers are not CPS employees and you can let them go at will. Of course, this will open up a golden opportunity for the political class to get a great contract. Maybe Monterey will get the contract or Eddie Acevedo.
Cold baby hands eddie acevedo is a drunk wanna be police/alderman/politican. tough talker when drunk at 5'5' 102 wet.Monterry galvan was a POS cop who got a PPO fired for his fuckups with renters.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Check out 020. Sro ready to retire in less than a year gets dumped so the school sgt can bring her boy toy with less than 2 years, from mids to days with weekends off. Typical.....
1/17/2020 11:41:00 AM
And the commander is so what? Living in a bubble. Must be a heavy sgt
Why are CPD arresting anyone in the schools unless it’s a violent offense. Graffiti is the schools problem same with a fight among kids. The schools have social justice employees let them handle it!
CPD In CPS proves theseyou g men and women under 18 are a danger to society .
Not all but many
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