Refused Exposure Report
So who are these idiots?
- Let’s say that I’m ordered to take a prisoner to a hospital for treatment. And while at that hospital I become aware from staff that the ER has seen over 100 people for COVID-19 symptoms. Let’s say I immediately notify my Sgt of the situation and that I’m going to need both an exposure and IOD completed. Is it customary for the sergeant to punt and say he must first confer with the lieutenant? Then these two in concert decide that I need to give them a to-from report explaining why I feel said reports are justified? And that an exposure and IOD would be completed once they determined my to-from passes muster?
Seem far fetched?
Not in a certain district that falls between 016 and 019.
We'd say do the To-From.....and lick it before submission.
Mount Sinai Hospital has told CPD to stop bringing dope-sick prisoners in for the duration of the emergency, seeing as how they're a bit busy with other actual issues. We'd suggest having a bottle of Dramamine at the Desk, but we'd probably have to buy that ourselves, too, lest Groot supply us with some that's ten-years-old.
Mount Sinai Hospital has told CPD to stop bringing dope-sick prisoners in for the duration of the emergency, seeing as how they're a bit busy with other actual issues. We'd suggest having a bottle of Dramamine at the Desk, but we'd probably have to buy that ourselves, too, lest Groot supply us with some that's ten-years-old.
Labels: safety issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
58 Comments:
I ain't licking NOTHING. NOTHING!
Already happened in 014
Cough & lick both those MF, see if they'll do the exposure then...
How about stop locking up people who are dope sick? Why the fuck are you street stopping people right now? Believe me, your “spot” on the tac team is fine. And how about all the assholes writing parkers and movers right now? As if people don’t have enough to worry about. I get it. it’s our job, it’s what we were hired to do. But have a fucking heart, even if it’s for a month or 2.
Balless sergeant and lieutenant my bet merit and couldn’t take a shit without permission. No doubt the the powers that be are afraid of mass IODs and the loss of personnel for two weeks and mass decontamination of building, internal equipment and vehicles. Oh the shame of the city, not to mention the cost.
The only people in lock up should be offenders of very violent crimes or domestics. Anyone else should be immediately I-bonded, I wouldn't even bring them into station. Have Sgt's with I-Bond books, verify their identity via clear or picture ID then release on I-Bond immediately.
Happened in 025 as well (without, to my knowledge, the condition of the To From) at the direction of the Captain.
How many nurses, doctors, other ancillary medical staff go there everyday and do their job! They are in far more danger than YOU! "I wanna exposure report! I was at a hospital!" Did you fill-out the hospital run sheet? Do you even know what a hospital run sheet is? NO?!?! It's Special Order S06-07-02. I would have done the exposure report and then a SPAR for not completing the hospital run sheet.
P.S. Just because an exposure report is completed doesn't mean an IOD is also. Only if there is an actual injury.
Exposure is for bodily fluids. IOD is self explanatory. A To-From is appropriate. Maybe a case report given the pandemic.
How about stop locking hypes up? What's wrong with some of you? Unless you have a serious felony happen in front of you or the necessary domestic arrest, you should not be locking up anyone else. Don't make unnecessary stops for a couple months. The crime will still be there when this passes
Ret. CCSPD here. In Fugitive Warrants, back in the day, CCDOC didn't run their buses on weekends, so we'd be assigned downstate pick-ups. Partner and I were given two stops, one off I-57, and one off of I-55. Made the first and swung west to pick up number two. Filled out all the paperwork, all looked OK so I signed for custody. While putting cuffs on #2, jail deputy says "Oh, by the way, he's got AIDS." When I came down off the fucking ceiling, I got on the phone to my sgt.; his response was "Do the best you can." Typical.
We put a paper mask on #2, cracked the back windows, and floored it back to 26th St.
I did a to/from that stated, in effect "We know that you don't give a fuck about us, but the liability issue with prisoner #1 could prove embarrassing and costly" (in so many words).
Only thing that changed was the desk officers were told to ask if the arrestee had any serious medical conditions.
Different department, different disease, same fucked up leadership.
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Gosh, it seems that the city never planned for this (remote) possibility.
Forward thinkers that they are.
We, first responders, must willingly sacrifice not only our selves, but our loved ones in this "unforseen" calamity.
just playing devils advocate though as I’ve seen officers going on medical or claiming IOD without any symptoms. I get doing the paperwork but how can you self quarantine yourself without any symptoms and without being directly exposed to someone with the virus? Many officers are trying to go IOD based on being in close proximity.
White Shits have our backs again
Need a "To From" explanation? its in the Report WTF!!!!!
FLOP Hello
Thanks Sarge!!!! Go Fuk yourself Stay Fetal
You have symptoms stay home thats what the Mayor Said
Don’t arrest any junkies if you can’t take them to hospital anymore.
They die in your custody, it’s on you.
Doesn't sound like you had direct exposure to the virus. If you start showing symptoms, your to-from could be used to show that you reported it after your hospital run. That way, if you end up infected, it can be tied to that visit, and then an exposure can be done, and maybe an IOD. With no known actual exposure, no symptoms, and no reason to believe you actually have the virus, there's really no need to do an exposure or IOD at this point. Sounds like someone didn't want to do a to-from that could help document the potential exposure. Sounds even more like you're trying to weasel your way out of having to work during this shitstorm. Understandable, but you don't get a free quarantine vacation. IOD for no signs of injury or illness? How exactly does that work? Relax and stop whining. You'll have plenty of chances to get exposed to the virus. Then you can get your exposure and stay home.
"...I ain't licking NOTHING..."
Too bad because I had an interesting proposal for you.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Mount Sinai Hospital has told CPD to stop bringing dope-sick prisoners in for the duration of the emergency, seeing as how they're a bit busy with other actual issues. We'd suggest having a bottle of Dramamine at the Desk, but we'd probably have to buy that ourselves, too, lest Groot supply us with some that's ten-years-old.
Labels: safety issues
Groot, clowns always have the last laugh...
Doesn't sound like you had direct exposure to the virus. If you start showing symptoms, your to-from could be used to show that you reported it after your hospital run. That way, if you end up infected, it can be tied to that visit, and then an exposure can be done, and maybe an IOD. With no known actual exposure, no symptoms, and no reason to believe you actually have the virus, there's really no need to do an exposure or IOD at this point. Sounds like someone didn't want to do a to-from that could help document the potential exposure. Sounds even more like you're trying to weasel your way out of having to work during this shitstorm. Understandable, but you don't get a free quarantine vacation. IOD for no signs of injury or illness? How exactly does that work? Relax and stop whining. You'll have plenty of chances to get exposed to the virus. Then you can get your exposure and stay home.
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Typical company man, suck ass response. Any possible exposure shall be reported via an IOD and exposure report, per fop. Or, just pretty much do the exact opposite that this ass hat is suggesting.
I thought all those OEMC merit go to conference on the Cities dime and learn about plagues?
What does these ass hat know?
And who take care of the Detectives family while they all are SICK???
Is lori sending the officers wife medicine? or picking up grocery?
Does that officer commander offer to bring that officer any food or toilet paper?
Best watch your own ass LORI shaking so hard she may go down wuth that weak immune system she has.
To the to from and leave 50 on the printer.
I agree. You only do an IOD report if you were injured or received medical attention for the exposure. You were probably exposed to the virus but so has everyone else. If you feel sick go on the medical and quit adding further aggravation to an already difficult situation. I’m sure your lack of contributions to the daily work load won’t be missed.
show the junkies where the alley is and move on.
streets & san will pick them up
Doesn't sound like you had direct exposure to the virus. If you start showing symptoms, your to-from could be used to show that you reported it after your hospital run.
HJump thru hoops thanks asshat Then why is there a form for after the fact?
Guess we all have to know that someone is positive to do an exposure report Brilliant
thanks for schooling me You dont have my back Stay fetal the supervisors will sink this place for sure
State Law says we need a fire extinguisher in the vehicle unsafe to operate without
Ret. CCSPD here. In Fugitive Warrants, back in the day, CCDOC didn't run their buses on weekends, so we'd be assigned downstate pick-ups. Partner and I were given two stops, one off I-57, and one off of I-55. Made the first and swung west to pick up number two. Filled out all the paperwork, all looked OK so I signed for custody. While putting cuffs on #2, jail deputy says "Oh, by the way, he's got AIDS." When I came down off the fucking ceiling, I got on the phone to my sgt.; his response was "Do the best you can." Typical.
We put a paper mask on #2, cracked the back windows, and floored it back to 26th St.
I did a to/from that stated, in effect "We know that you don't give a fuck about us, but the liability issue with prisoner #1 could prove embarrassing and costly" (in so many words).
Only thing that changed was the desk officers were told to ask if the arrestee had any serious medical conditions.
Different department, different disease, same fucked up leadership.
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3/20/2020 01:58:00 AM
You know how that shit gets transmitted right?
Release w/o charging or I bond them and drop them off at the Mayors house.
Idiots, you dont start showing symptoms right away. By the time you do, the city will claim (as they did with the CFD paramedic) “oh this happened outside of the work setting.”
This is the smart thing to do. Write the paperwork now. They cannot deny you the right to document a possible exposure.
Larry Lightfoot is an idiot!!!!
Just a FYI-
Way back in the 90’s- when OHare was being overrun with
homeless junkies, OHare would pull out the bums almost daily and
run them into 016 or HQ lockup......
Turns out a bunch of the piss bums had Hepatitus.....
Bunch of us at 016 ended up with Hepatitus....
And the daily runs From Ohare were STOPPED.
So, then finally the department had to start giving the whole
department the Hepatitus shots.....
Point is.....AVOID UNDUE CONTACT.....no stops, no b.s. arrests, stay safe
and far away from unnecessary confrontations.
Little do people know, they don't give you that white shirt, until you give them your balls.
Hey a CR on the person who tells you that you can't file the report. What is wrong with you people? They don't care about you. If you got sick and died from this do you think they will give you like of duty? They will say there was no report made so who knows where he got it.
Ugh, another know nothing. Must be a boss covering for the other bosses. Come on dummy, read some shit. Daddy can't give you all the test answers.
Idiot said:
With no known actual exposure, no symptoms, and no reason to believe you actually have the virus, there's really no need to do an exposure or IOD at this point.
https://www.newsweek.com/how-coronavirus-covid-19-spreads-1492712?amp=1
Ranu S. Dhillon of the Division of Global Health Equity at Brigham and Women's Hospital, Harvard Medical School, told Newsweek: "From all the available data to-date, it certainly appears that people can be infected and pass the virus onto others *****before or without experiencing any symptoms.*****
Anonymous said...
Doesn't sound like you had direct exposure to the virus. If you start showing symptoms, your to-from could be used to show that you reported it after your hospital run. That way, if you end up infected, it can be tied to that visit, and then an exposure can be done, and maybe an IOD. With no known actual exposure, no symptoms, and no reason to believe you actually have the virus, there's really no need to do an exposure or IOD at this point. Sounds like someone didn't want to do a to-from that could help document the potential exposure. Sounds even more like you're trying to weasel your way out of having to work during this shitstorm. Understandable, but you don't get a free quarantine vacation. IOD for no signs of injury or illness? How exactly does that work? Relax and stop whining. You'll have plenty of chances to get exposed to the virus. Then you can get your exposure and stay home.
3/20/2020 04:37:00 AM
This is very correct, worked airport during h1n1 which was deadly,and we had no masks,gloves or anything very few coppers got sick,but then again this is a world disease the outcomes is unknown. Many will like you say weasel out and let the work fall on their brothers and sisters in blue, this is the new millennium police generation who drive the $70,000 wranglers,and their parents paid for college. How many still wear star wars jammies and have mom making them warm milk and cookies?
Bottom line look at doctors,nurses they are doing everything that their jobs require to protect and help people,and the cowards on this job who should of never took this job in the first place!
To-From because someone on the upper echelon says so.
Sgts probably getting swamped, Commander office too.
Nip it in the bud.
Same nonsense of passing the buck with the HIV, the Hep, the white powdery substance. The supervisors being lazy or unable to cope with too much to do is only half the problem, but they sure write up those spars mighty quick.
The issue and dislike of transporting sick prisoners/arrestees is age old.
First of all, Who and why is anyone still arresting and for what? And to those knuckleheads wearing non-disposable tactical gloves to manhandle prisoners. Wow.
Why is the WC approving bs arrests too. No I-Bond or RWOC? Assuming this was a felony?
What was accomplished by this arrest-transport besides a bellyache for the Sgt?
Oh - the DC needs Compstat activity, he/she might be a superstar at the next dismal meeting.
Something has to give at the District level but HQ is preoccupied with outdated strategies and solutions.
Seems the A/O is never around when a hospital clearance is needed.
County intake is likely going to be an automatic refusal when they go through the the paperwork, then it’s back to square one ping pong - back to the District lockup and wait, even when the CookCo St.Rogers refuses a bed should CookCo even think of granting a mittimus.
The Department of Groot is ill prepared as is PrickWrinkle’s County.
Either stop arresting because they’ll all claim they sickly or swear in the DSS as ad hoc county magistrates.
Dipshits in charge of CPD is age old I tell’ya. Age old.
FOP. Have you tried. Contacting. Edward Don. Company for supplies. What about. Koval. Distillery. Show us a list who you have requests in for
Come on give it a try.
Forget this election in April. Lots of retirees. Never received the first ballot. And now the second ballot was supposed to be mailed. And we still don’t have it
Postpone this election to a later date
The Department requires you to mitigate exposure when able so please make sure ALL paperwork says that due to the lack of available protection provided you were forced to be exposed. Remember it is your report.
3/20/2020 04:37:00 AM
You nailed it.
With rank comes responsibility not privilege If you are a supervisor you MUST take care of your guys and gals. If you can't or won't step aside. We are nothing without our front line. Protect them as best you can with the limits you are given. There is always a way. Only an incompetent boss is a bad boss.
If you do a hospital run or prisoner transport and there’s a Bona Fide Chinese Flu patient in the ER fill out the hospital Run Sheet and an Exposure Report and do a To//From. Make copies and if you end up symptomatic then fill out an an IOD. If there’s no bona fide Chinese flu patient just fill out a To/From and Hospital Run Sheet. This ain’t rocket science.....
And 011 still is making traffic stops
That’s pretty stretching it. So if you go into an ER and 20 people have been in and out with influenza A or B have you done exposure reports? Treated someone with HIV do you do an exposure report just because someone was being treated there? If you go to a domestic and are in a house and someone has HIV but you don’t touch them and it’s and it’s a standard domestic do you do a exposure be use your in their presence or they live there?? No, you don’t. Same thing for every sickness out there. The ER is full of sick people every single day. When you have a detail in the past have you done an exposure? No you haven’t. They loosened the medical coverage for this and many people are trying to exploit it.
How many nurses, doctors, other ancillary medical staff go there everyday and do their job! They are in far more danger than YOU! "I wanna exposure report! I was at a hospital!" Did you fill-out the hospital run sheet? Do you even know what a hospital run sheet is? NO?!?! It's Special Order S06-07-02. I would have done the exposure report and then a SPAR for not completing the hospital run sheet.
P.S. Just because an exposure report is completed doesn't mean an IOD is also. Only if there is an actual injury.
You know what you are?!?! A FAKE supervisor from a FAKE police department in a 3rd world shithole of a city!!! Nothing is legit! Oh, and the hospital has proper equipment like copious amounts of non-expired sanitizer, masks, wipes. Oh, you’re also a DORK!
Sounds like the 1762 team who stuck the midnight officers with a pimpy stat only arrest that said she was sick and had to be taken to the hospital while the softball officers had very little contact with her. They’ll never get it. One way goofs.
I’m so sorry the alleged bosses you have are totally ball less! Wtf difference does it make to them? Are they afraid to stand up to the higher ranks?
Make any report necessary, they can deal with it!
So incredibly happy to be retired
One of my concerns. Junkie nation isnt going to stop shooting up or going to the methadone clinic just because of a 103% fever. The fear of becoming dope sick is far more then being COVID sick and sure as hell is scarier then getting YOU sick.
Should a junkie get both they are going to dehydrate and dry up like a prune.
Keep yer powder dry Americans.
You want an exposure report just for being in the same building where some other people who may have also been exposed? It sounds like you're afraid and plotting a two week vacation on the backs of your peers. If you are required to be in a space of less than six feet with a person is has been clinically diagnosed with COVID-19, you can then have an exposure report. Other than that, its just doing your job and taking the same precautionary measures the rest of us are. Man up.
Fat Boy has spoken and so it shall be written.
Groot wasn't smart enough to move the microphone away from her face. No on offered a box for her to stand on.
Who is the guy signing in those god awful tight pants. Why didn't he sign in Spanish?
Who is the scary doctor from U of C? Dr. Doom I presume??
Where is Becky. Waller must be the front man in case things go south.
Will the city listen to the words, hopefully so. Things close Saturday night but what about tonight. Will it be a "Dude, Inc's. last fling". Dopers will go stir crazy. Lots of domestics. Dope slingers stand to make a fortune. Groot and Becky will now claim crime is down.
Heads on a swivel, watch your 6, back your partner and protect your family. Let God sort the rest.
35 NYPD just tested positive which means probably another thousand have been infected. I cant imagine a worse place to beat a virus then a squad car or police station. Hopefully they will all be OK but the virus is going to burn thru the Dept. no matter what the city does. Which is pretty much nothing except to blame Trump.
Lemmings!
Mayor just stated on tv. She has numerous hand sanitizer in her office. Really. What about us. She stated I have one every five feet
Shame on her
She feels that they are so important. Yea. What about the police. Oh yea. They get the garbage outdated not effective
Wilie Wilson. Wants to help us.
He’s honest
You want an exposure report just for being in the same building where some other people who may have also been exposed? It sounds like you're afraid and plotting a two week vacation on the backs of your peers. If you are required to be in a space of less than six feet with a person is has been clinically diagnosed with COVID-19, you can then have an exposure report. Other than that, its just doing your job and taking the same precautionary measures the rest of us are. Man up.
3/20/2020 02:38:00 PM
Dear Hero,
Blow me.
Signed, Not Stupid Like You.
My son just gave the city, politicians and these pensions The Fuck You and not wanting to participate in the pension ponzi scam. Now happy in AZ.
Good luck to all the whiners and complainers.
People....health care workers have STRICT protocols for dealing with anyone coming into a doc office or hospital. You should all be following the very same strict protocols. If you do not have he proper equipment...DO NOT contact people in anything resembling close quarters. You have been warned. This may either be a bust or the worst thing to hit us ever. Just keep yourself safe. Normal people will not need you.
Anonymous said...
Larry Lightfoot is an idiot!!!!
3/20/2020 08:53:00 AM
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Plain short & simply put.... Right on !!!!
Does The Chinese Flu still come with a Fortune Cookie? I love reading what’s in the fortune cookie.
And you thought they might not care about your safety/life, now you know.
Mt. Sinai is more concerned about the illegals walking in for pregnancy tests
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