Dems Beg for Money
The arrogance is astounding - if you didn't know Illinois politicians:
- Democratic Illinois Senate President Don Harmon is asking federal lawmakers to provide more than $41 billion to the state as part of the next coronavirus relief package, including $10 billion to stabilize a massively underfunded pension system.
“I realize I’ve asked for a lot, but this is an unprecedented situation, and we face the reality that there likely will be additional, unanticipated costs that could result in future requests for assistance,” Harmon wrote in a Tuesday letter to members of the state’s congressional delegation.
Following decades of fiscal mismanagement, misplaced priorities and outright criminal underfunding, Illinois dems are asking Illinois reps to steal billions from the rest of the nation and cover their thievery. How about making some actual concrete efforts to be responsible with money instead of pissing it away every time you see a bloc of voters you can buy off?
(a bunch of interesting graphs and tables at this link here.)
(a bunch of interesting graphs and tables at this link here.)
Labels: un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
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The State of Illinois made no effort whatsoever to trim expenses during this viruscrisis. Kept spending like all was gravy. No they expect the Feds to bail them out of their stupidity.
Ain't gonna happen. Feds are broke too.
The only thing thing that will possibly solve this is to reopen the economy IMMEDIATELY.
Is this the Illinois Democrat’s’ way of admitting there’s a problem?
Covid is the cover for the pension bailout they know is about to finally destroy this state.
When Trump and the senate politely decline to rescue this Dem deadbeat state, the media will unleash a fury of abuse on them and ignore the decades of Dem corruption and incompetence that brought us to this point.
I so hate this place! Yes! HATE!
Meh... something tells me that pension money would not get to where it’s destined either way.
Harmon is wrong.
Illinois needs 4.7 quadrillion ($4,700,000,000,000.00) dollars from taxpayers to break even.
The 41 billion does not begin to address the pension shortfall created by the demoRats in Springfield. I submit that this ploy for the money will be used for mail in voting or ballot harvesting. The DNC is desperate to win at all costs in November. Watch for other demoRat controlled states to claim similar requests. Trump is not in favor of mail in voting or ballot harvesting.
How about some criminal charges for the decades of mismanagement, overpaying for state work for political (kickbacks) donations to favorite charities (themselves), tax after tax and then the collection of those taxes by third parties who take their cut(completely unnecessarily) giving the state less than 50% no doubt, and if that isn't enough quite a few legislators steer work to private law firms, insurance companies, supply companies...etc... There is NOTHING BUT COLLUSION, NEPOTISM, CONFLICT OF INTEREST, AND THE POLITICIANS WRATH FOR ANYONE WHO CHALLENGES THEIR POWER!!!
THERE ARE NO CHECKS AND BALANCES, THERE IS ONLY DEMOCRAT SOCIALIST DESTRUCTION AND DEBT!!!
Who will pay for it, the same stupid taxpayers who believed these CROOKS!!!
The FBI in Chicago must be headed by Helen Keller all these years!!!
Oh I'm sure the President is going to be behind this one, especially the way the Illinois Dems speak about him.
Hell no! This is not due to covid. I'm sorry for the civil servants that were promised pensions. Go speak with your state and/or local gov reps and ask them for the money and where all that money raised these past years went. Tell them to cut spending. If you're counting on an increasingly fleeing populace to fund your pensions good luck. No fed bailout for mismanaged gov't pensions for any state not just IL.
How about cutting off illegals and sixteen year baby momma’s. Am I cruel? You bet I am! I’m sick and tired of taking care of irresponsible people.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/insolvent-illinois-begs-congress-pension-bailout
Pensions in big trouble!
Everyone get in on the Chicago money scam! These bright lads are reselling 2003 flip phone screens remade to teach gang members and CPS honor students how to wash their hands. NOT A JOKE! CPS will be buying these with money Groot took from you per her taxation rampages, both past and upcoming.
These Chicago Engineers Invented A Device That Teaches You How To Wash Your Hands Properly – Block Club Chicago
https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/04/16/these-chicago-engineers-invented-a-device-that-teaches-you-how-to-wash-your-hands-properly/
I am thinking about selling blank recordable DVDs to CPS as official no virus drink coasters for the cafeteria. At a huge mark up, of course. Got to protect those honor students from germs! This is incredible all the free money to "fight the virus" which can be had.
Fuck those sucker tax payers! VOTE DEMOCRAT! Always!
It's just 41 billion, I'm sure trump almost laughed himself to death when he heard this one. He also added that we might need some more money later on. Where is mikey madigan hiding. Is he under his desk with the cyanide pill within arms reach.
From the rest of the US
“Nice try”
No FUCK OFF
Illinois - the laughing stock of the USA.
If the jails are pretty empty what are we paying for?
Courts all still getting paid?
State attorney phoning it in acting like they are doing work. (no layoffs for them in trial division).
Keep in mind that all those NON essential still getting paid are getting FREEBIES. The county and City will than ask the FEDS /Trump to foot the full salary of all those non essential. TAXES TAXES TAXES
There is no reason that responsibly-run states that actually balance their budgets should bail out Illinois.
The Democrats created the spending problem; let them fix it.
41 billion will cover Madigan, Burke and Daley's pension. What about the rest of us?
Perhaps the Aldercreatures should follow other examples of leaders from other states who are cutting their salaries to help with deficits and costs. Aldercreatures, Gold Stars, Groot, Governor (who is a billionaire by the way) and Senators all should be taking paycuts to help with the economy and to show Americans who have lost jobs that they can help out as well. Funny how citizens, entrepreneurs, chefs and others are helping out those in need and those who COULD afford to loose a little don't, like the assholes I mentioned above. C'mon Billionaire Governor...how about stop taking a check...you really need one?? How about you donating some of your pizza money?? Talk is Cheap.
The genesis of this problem began in the 1940's/1950's. I remember classes at Chicago Circle in the mid 1960's (Yes, 55 years ago) discussing the future and ramifications of public pensions and early retirement. At that time, public servants such as police, fire, and transit personnel we grossly underpaid compared to the general population. At the same time, public union representation was weak. While not being able to pay a higher wage, city and state officials decided that it would attract potential workers and maintain the ones they have by "paying it forward" with generous pension/early retirement benefits...in many cases far more generous than those benefits offered by businesses and Social Security. There were really no present value costs to the taxpayer so the benefits were quickly adopted.
Now here is where both the city/county/state and unions share culpability. As public unions gained collective bargaining strength, they not only were able to increase the wages of public union members but, over a period of years, increase wages over and above the private sector. Public union leaders began to have a cozy relationship with city/county/state elected officials and vice versa resulting in the proverbial "quid pro quo" "votes for benefits" and benefits for votes". Although this is an unpopular view with both public union members and politicians, indeed, this pension crisis is a two-headed monster and has been from the very beginning.
The crazy people have to go crying to the normal people when going gets really tough.
When are we going to see City layoffs?
Would be okay with me IF mandatorily it goes right into the pension fund,,,,,
The new celebrity Dem Cuomo is asking for billions too......
Meanwhile, Senile Joe still hiding in his basement....
And the Dems are again loading up this second batch of stimulus money
with their wish list SJW porks.....
Well if they start taking away pensions then they need to start with IMRF. They are highly funded and that's a requirement because this is the pension of the mayors and other municipal employees who DID NOT FUND police, fire, teachers and other pension funds! At the same time if people are going to lose pensions then we need to put A LOT OF POLITICIANS IN JAIL! If we are looking for funding then we need to get loans or grants or help like the insurance industry, automakers, small business, other large corporations, etc..etc..etc...
If they take pensions then its time to liquidate museums, art work, politicians unexplained wealth!!! I am sure the cops and fire fighters will not sit still when you tell them they need to go get a job after 25,35, 45 years of service. Expect to see pitchfork carrying, tar & feather ready militia's, scouring the streets in the state of ILL-ANNOY!!!
This has long since passed the point of no return.
Like the end of the link says, two solutions: Bankruptcy reform and pension reform.
Ya, like the President would do anything for any of these asshole democRAT politicians here who constantly slam and slander him starting with that fatass Prickzer and Larry Lightloafers.
Do we have a big enough swat team to arrest the entire city council? Or would the feds have to do it? How about the state legislature? Feds for that one? Isn't there a law about honest government service or something? If so, they are all guilty as hell.
I am sure President Trump will support cutting IL a nice big check. Remember a few months ago how all the IL politicians were lined up to greet him upon arrival in Chicago? Maybe respect the office next time politicians and you will have a chance....
Why doesn’t Mayor Lightfoot recognize the disproportionate rate of Death for Seniors due to the virus? These Seniors are of ALL Races, not just Black. It now further appears that our Mayor is truly the Racist we have all heard she is. Seniors, remember this at Election time. Your Mayor bases your Health and Safety on what color your skin is.
The Demorats begging for money, now that is hilarious, how about giving back some of the money you have been ripping off from the taxpayers!
$41 billion includes hundreds of millions JB LateMinute Panic ChinaShopper wasted on hasty purchases.
So far JB HamHocks has bellyached for or about something different everyday...
- ventilators
- PPE
- hospital beds
- empty private hotel rooms
- no end in sight, tax revenue shutdown
- early last week started up with the budget woes and pitched the Graduated Tax Plan.
- no testing, no test kits, no testing sites
- sends in a dependable chump to do the Federal bailout money pitch
Spend, spend, spend, deplete, raid budgets and spend s’more.
Now they're pushing something new, a targeted racial inequities health response program and it’s just another Democrat nationwide ploy from their playbook that was just released. Never mind that this has been done before for over 50 years for everything from tobacco, alcohol, drugs related illnesses to education, job opportunity and of course criminal justice. Covid’s makes it new again.
JB Porkshoulder is as stupid as he sounds. Listening to him these past weeks and it’s annoyingly clear. He used to try to spin everything the the same day the President would say after the daily White House press conference. Since the White House started later early evening pressers, JB Shyster had his Team do the spinning during the overnight so the next afternoon he can respond to prescreened questions from local at-Home Online FakeNews reporters.
Here’s the deal...
If JB Pigfluenza doesn’t get the Fed Bailout money, he gets to try and blame President Donald J Trump. Dems are frightened and pretty much know they have no path to win the White House. Best they can do is smear the Administration and try to hold the US House.
Illinois has 3 vulnerable US House Representatives on the November ballot including corrupt senile crank Durbin. For the record, USA need to flip 12 US Rep seats nationwide to regain the House.
Illinois is very close, closer than most think to turning into a Red state or at least purple.
Stockpile some that cheap gasoline while you can. It will be first to see a 500% tax surcharge.
Tick Tock Tick Tock.....the Dems have stolen so much of the pension money that it is impossible for them to replace it with taxes and other fees, robbing Peter to pay Paul.Now they have to shake the cup to Uncle Sugar for yet another handout so they can skim the Covid money to shore up the failing pension fund. Tick Tock Tick Tock........
"The only thing thing that will possibly solve this is to reopen the economy IMMEDIATELY."
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Sadly, no. Illinois' pension debt is $214 Billion (with a B). The hole is so deep that there's no realistic way out of it. Which is why the IL Dems are trying to scam the rest of the country into paying for some of it. They have no shame. The other states should roast these Dems on a spit. Bad for us, yes. But at least IL residents keep their honor and dignity. Something our Dem politicians lost long ago.
Illinois and Chicago are the most corrupt State and City in the United States.
DemoRats IL ChIraq Get ready for all new Crisis TAXES TAXES TAXES and FEES
Social and Economic Disparity
So VOTE TRUMP
I knew it all along. The demorats love this virus they don’t care about you or me all they want is a fed bailout.
THERE ARE NO CHECKS AND BALANCES, THERE IS ONLY DEMOCRAT SOCIALIST DESTRUCTION AND DEBT!!!
Who will pay for it, the same stupid taxpayers who believed these CROOKS!!!
The FBI in Chicago must be headed by Helen Keller all these years!!!
Hey, hey, watch it, Ms Keller was intelligent and caring.
CPA said...
Harmon is wrong.
Illinois needs 4.7 quadrillion ($4,700,000,000,000.00) dollars from taxpayers to break even.
4/21/2020 12:53:00 AM
LOL. AGAIN, Now we need Quad'$ of Money!
Anonymous CPA said...
Harmon is wrong.
Illinois needs 4.7 quadrillion ($4,700,000,000,000.00) dollars from taxpayers to break even.
4/21/2020 12:53:00 AM
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True, but not to worry.
Legal cannabis has already generated 8 quadrillion in tax revenues. And that's only for the last two months.
Problem is they get it one way or another. Here comes more taxes.
Begging for money....what are you talking about, lightfoot has been throwing stacks ( millions) at street outreach groups, illegal alien defense funds, like she’s sitting on a money printing press
Cut CPS Teacher Salaries by 25% Immediately, and reduce CPD Gold Braid Pensions to Civil Service Rank Pension Immediately, with 10 % monthly penalty until entire Gold Braid portion of Pension is repaid. Then Civil Service Pension amount for Life. Same for Merit Pensions, back to legit Civil Service Rank Pension amount.
How about the Fed give the state money for the pensions on condition of a forensic audit,, that is to say a real audit ,that will show just were the body's are buried, In fact there is a group of CPD retired and active trying to get a forensic audit of the pension fund and are being stonewalled
Bankruptcy-city of chicago
How about the Fed give the state money for the pensions on condition of a forensic audit,
4/21/2020 04:42:00 PM
No. Don't need to do an x-ray on an already deceased patient. It's up to public employees to collect directly from their local representatives and tax paying IL neighbors. Best of luck!
DEMOCRATS trying to receive money from FEDS for POLICE, FIRE and AMBULANCE>
Keep in mind the city will divert the cash and buy tents, porta potties and free lunches for the unemployables.
Behind IL is NJ, CT, and CA at least. We're all in for covid haircuts.
If the pension goes bust would we have to pay property taxes? I mean if your brother owed you thousands would you give him money.
Where's the vigilantes when the State desperately needs them?
The Dems and local media gleefully shit-talked
POTUS and now they want him to dig them out of
the 50 year old fiscal shitty drawers they were
more than happy to fill?
The moral equivalent of a non potty trained,
6 foot, 200 pound, adrenaline, testosterone,
dope and dog-food fueled teenager...
They've got a lot of nerve.
Don't they?
Heh... POTUS should say:
"OK m/fers... You'll get your money after you submit
to a DOJ & IRS led forensic audit of ALL your finances
going back to 1970."
>Groot, Guv'nuh Great-Ass, Jelly-Spine Quinn, George Ryan,
Rahm, Shortshanks, Burke & Co., Madigan y Cia all
simultaneously shitting the elastic out of their
undies and going blind<
...Great theater and the house would be packed.
The FBI in Chicago must be headed by Helen Keller all these years!!!
The FBI is blind. The corruption is rampid - every suburb has vendors / cleaning firms / you name it - these firms are ALL politically connected
to Madigan and the democratic machine. How on earth they haven’t caught wind of these things is beyond me.
The genesis of this problem began in the 1940's/1950's. I remember classes at Chicago Circle in the mid 1960's (Yes, 55 years ago) discussing the future and ramifications of public pensions and early retirement. At that time, public servants such as police, fire, and transit personnel we grossly underpaid compared to the general population. At the same time, public union representation was weak. While not being able to pay a higher wage, city and state officials decided that it would attract potential workers and maintain the ones they have by "paying it forward" with generous pension/early retirement benefits...in many cases far more generous than those benefits offered by businesses and Social Security. There were really no present value costs to the taxpayer so the benefits were quickly adopted.
Now here is where both the city/county/state and unions share culpability. As public unions gained collective bargaining strength, they not only were able to increase the wages of public union members but, over a period of years, increase wages over and above the private sector. Public union leaders began to have a cozy relationship with city/county/state elected officials and vice versa resulting in the proverbial "quid pro quo" "votes for benefits" and benefits for votes". Although this is an unpopular view with both public union members and politicians, indeed, this pension crisis is a two-headed monster and has been from the very beginning.
There is some very good points in the above listed post, but the truth is the only reason the pension system is so flawed is because the politicians changed the rules and started taking money from the pension funds and not putting that money back. Also, the pension holidays were created so the government could go years with out putting their fair share into the plan. They should not have been able to take money from the fund, it should have been untouchable and they should not have been able to take the pension holiday because of some made up formula by some accountant connected to a politician. The Pension fund will be running smoothly if the politicians didn't change the funding rules at their leisure. I worked in the private sector for 14 years prior to taking the city job and just last week I received the prospectus of the fund, and that pension fund is 97 % funded. Why is that possible, because the private sector kept the rules the same and always put in their fair share and didn't come up with some bs rules just to steal from their own employees like the politicians did. Also, that pension plan I speak about has been around longer the the 1960's so if the politicians would have stuck to the original rules we would not have this problem today.
Politicians are filthy animals.
Indeed, much like Federal Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Those funds wold be soluble had not the politicians misdirected nearly $5 trillion of those into the general fund to be spent on everything but what they were intended for. China only owns about 7% of the country's debt. Most of the debt is owed to our own American people through those funds mentioned above plus pension's, IRA's, 401k's, that own Treasuries that are almost totally unfunded.
The police are not the problem with pensions. Look at the pension portal Open the Books. The biggest scammers are university teachers who are making unbelievable pensions. Police are a drop in the bucket but you wouldn't know that from the fucking lying media. Also, the highest paid state worker is Lovie Smith, head football coach of U of Illinois at 3.2 million a year.
Why in the French fried fuck should anyone but Illannoyans pay for Illannoy pensions?
Prodigal son is back. Don’t give them a dime. They didn’t had any money even before Chinese virus.
There now is a move in the US Senate, bi-partisan, but led by the Repubican Leaders to let states with high pension debt declare bankruptcy; Illinois, New Jersey, New York, California and a few others. It looks like it will be happening in the future, how far in the future is undetermined. Look for cites to follow to include Chicago and a host of others in Illinois. This is unprecedented
Jelly Belly Pritzker's ultimate goal is a Illinois Constitutional Convention necessitated by a state bankruptsy.
Every cop, fireman, teacher and stateworker will have their pension protection removed.
Please keep an eye on this.
The biggest pension scammers are university and college administrators, various Chicago and suburban school administrators, superintendents, CEOs, etc. All of the above earned high salaries too. ☹️
Illinois should be put under a federal consent decree. A bankruptcy judge will control the state’s finances thru a federal consent monitor. They will oversee how and where the money gets spent. Also all politicians at the state level resign and are ineligible to run for re-election. Cook county politician also have to resign.
You do realize if the City and/or State go into bankruptcy all the pensions will be ended. Yours will be shifted off to the underfunded federal pension rescue program and will be lucky to get dimes on a dollar. Since you haven't paid into Social Security, you won't get that. Hopefully you have savings or retirement will suck hard.
our governor males no sense! people have been out and about shopping , jogging and VOTING with no masks since lardass ordered his shelter in place. his staff have even gotten haircuts and I can't get eggs.
What ever the emperor wants understand this is a crisis. As long as the Lt governor can get her weed is all I worry about.
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