Fair vs Unfair Criticism
- I’ve been a cop for nearly 40 years. For the last 20 of them, I’ve had the good fortune of being granted the platform, first at National Review Online, later at City Journal, Ricochet, and here at PJ Media, to write on behalf of my fellow police officers when their actions came under what I considered to be unfair criticism. Police work has grown more difficult since I began, all the more so when cops’ split-second decisions are scrutinized by an uninformed public after having been mischaracterized in the media, sometimes deliberately.
So it saddens me to observe some of the asininity on display among some of my fellow police officers in recent days as fear of the coronavirus pandemic brings the country to its knees. Reason and common sense have in some places been abandoned in favor of a level of social control rarely seen in any country that calls itself free, much less in the United States of America. Here in Southern California, we have seen police officers ticketing a surfer on an otherwise empty beach, citing people for sitting in parked cars while watching a sunset, and, in what may be the most farcical display of them all, using not just one but two boats to corral and arrest a lone paddleboarder off the coast of Malibu.
I do not discount the seriousness of the coronavirus pandemic. Indeed, I am of a sufficiently advanced age to be considered a high-risk patient if I were to contract the disease. But neither do I discount the genuine threat to liberty posed by the various orders, decrees, edicts, and mandates lately imposed by the nation’s governors, mayors, health commissioners, and every other sort of government functionary exercising their newly discovered power to limit the freedom of their fellow citizens. In the case of the people being hassled for watching the sunset, cited above, the San Diego County Sheriff’s Department was so proud of this exercise of authority that they made it their pinned tweet on their Twitter account.
He (and we) are of a generation of cops who remember exactly what the oath was we took years ago, and it wasn't to be petty tyrants in the service of political agendas.
Here's a bit of advice that hasn't steered us wrong in the decades we've been around:
Here's a bit of advice that hasn't steered us wrong in the decades we've been around:
- Lacking a declaration of Martial Law, the City can still unilaterally close down stadiums, museums, park buildings, licensed businesses and such. We enforce those ordinances.
But restricting movement and peaceful gatherings on the public way or upon private property absent any sort of criminal behavior or intent, you better take a long hard look at the order being given and the person giving that order and under what authority it is being issued.
Closing down church services? Conducting checkpoints on the public way? "Sweeping the corners" without warnings and making arrests without any sort of dispersal order as happened on the west side last week? And then promptly disavowed by the mayor? You can guess exactly where that one is going....and you better be sure you're ready, willing and able to take that ride under the bus.
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Look out 007,
How bout 3rd watch 1623 trying to shut down portage park @4pm? Claiming groot shut down all parks. Wake up. We cant enforce illegal declarations
When the music stops, many idiots will find themselves without a seat... I was simply following orders.
Good luck with that.
Stay at home orders? Welcome to Communism my friends. Let’s keep this charade up for another three months and we’ll see if we can top the Great Depression’s unemployment rate of 25%. Lives destroyed, hopeless futures ... Communism at its best.
Something else very dangerous and getting worse all the time, the spying from the big tech companies. Google (remember their don't be evil motto, they sure broke that promise), Flakebook, Twitter and the others track your every move. The way the UK and the USA are going it sort of reminds me of parts of the old series "The Prisoner" staring Patrick McGoohan. Everyone being watched, tracked. And why anyone would still use the Chrome browser is beyond me.
Quotes from the article, "Don’t be evil, just OBEY: After Covid-19 tech giants will have even more control over what you see & what you think" by Mitchell Feierstein. I think it's important to take note of this as it plays along with what state governments are doing now. So I'd appreciate you posting it.
"Covid-19 is the perfect diversion. While Congress busily passes more trillion-dollar bailouts for billionaires, big-tech stealthily ensures future generations become digital addicts who blindly accept and embrace, like sheep, the emergence of digital tyranny. Today’s college students stumble around like zombies in a trance, eyes glued to their mobile phones, afraid to “miss out” on real-time Instagram updates or TikTok’s latest memes. The development of 5G may result in a silent WWIII that ensures a quick demise of a zombified Western society without a single shot ever being fired".
"These digital gatekeepers have the power to control and manipulate populations via big-data collection. Your digital profile contains a record of everything you do. You are being tracked and all your movements and actions are recorded. This valuable data is compiled and stored by the companies listed above. This data is valuable and is based on your preferences and all the items you have searched or purchased on the internet, the stores you have visited and the places you have traveled to whether it be by car, bus, train or plane. Google, Amazon, Facebook et al. are recording your every move".
Now add that to the government using new tools to track people during the virus, but will it end when this is over? It certainly won't in the UK and I doubt it will here either. And coppers pompously bragging about busting a surfer, some guy in a paddle boat, a couple having a picnic in some rural place? And let's put a price tag on how much this cost the taxpayers. Utterly useless rubbish. Just what kind of coppers brag about this stuff? Control freaks, robots, just plain asshats, I would say all three. You know as people complain more and more about this stuff who will be the bad guys? It won't be Larry or governor one-man zip-code. It will be the coppers, all coppers will be seen in the worst light possible once again. Oh my those Nazi coppers what are they doing hassling innocent people. People stressed out due to no job now and just want a bit of peace and relaxation with their spouse. Oh my, lock them up Kojak. And then lets brag about our magnificent and dangerous capture on social media. What kind of people are they hiring these days? It's embarrassing and sickening. These idiots deserve to be sued but then so do the fools giving the orders. But hey Larry can get her haircut because she is the Lord of the manner, rules don't apply to her only to the peasants.
Read history and were becoming closer and closer to a communist state and dare say I the pre world war Germany. The democrats claimed Trump would pull this but it is not. Not only Californa but here in Illinois as well by the democrats. The cities run by the democrats as well . Going to extremes by shutting down Easter services and what ever they wanted to do but kept liquer store open. I am not a police officer by I support the police. I hope your all staying safe because I know most democrats don't support you.
Doesn't anyone see where this is going? The police are rarely arresting any real criminals and not writing tickets to traffic scofflaws. The States Attorneys here in Cook County aren't prosecuting any drug crimes (i.e. Heroin, Cocaine, etc.) unless it's a very large amount. The jail is releasing almost all prisoners well before their sentence is over even for agregious crimes like sexual assault, discharging a firearm, Agg Battery, etc. But we are now ticketing regular citizens for sitting in their cars, paddle boarding in empty waters, and even threatening them with arrests. This sounds like a bizzarro world or the liberal way of living.
Now, more than any other time, you should stay fetal. Making contact with people now is not only bad for your health, it could be bad for your career. What's the mad rush to lock people up when they'll never be charged.
Soft Martial Law. Unofficially initiated under the guise of a pandemic. The left is enjoying the taste of the new found power to curb civil liberties, of those on the right, for the right are a law abiding people, unlike the leftist thugs in the demoRat party. Now that Trump wants to reverse social distancing by opening up the economy, restoring freedom of movement, freedom of association, personal liberty, and economic freedom, the left and its acolytes are screaming and dragging their feet to retain their control.
Just as pols do not want to eliminate a tax, so to do pols do not want to give up the power to control a free people.
Curb civil liberties. Food shortages. Limited medical treatment. Coming soon curfew of businesses, followed by curfew of citizens. All while the pols in control enjoy unfettered liberties, no shortage of food or medical treatment, and no curfew.
Fetal = social distancing. Ive been doing this
for years!
Good to read this b/c some of the video seen NOT good - KY state troopers taking church parking lot license plate #s, Philly cops dragging a guy off a bus for not wearing a mask (while NONE of them had on one), London "Bobbies" breaking down a renter's door b/c someone called in a "gathering of people" - tenant was home alone. Wtf.
Not a copper but pro law & order & even more so, the US Constitution. Understand protecting one's job (read pension) but all the above examples of 1st Amendment rights - freedom of peaceable assembly, freedom or religion ...
Were I law enforcement & given orders wannabe tyrants think they can impose (the female Gov of Michigan IS out of control), I'd say, Yes sir/ma'am and proceed to find some "wiggle room" (not) enforcing said dictate.
I 100% agree. I have about 8 years on and it’s disappointing to me to see these instances of police officers so eagerly enforcing these shelter in place orders without a single brain cell put to use to look at the totality of the circumstances in front of them. Daddy daughter getting some exercise and quality time together outside? Not on their watch! Get in the back of the car old man, you’re going in! Watching the sunset with your wife? HERES A TICKET SLUTS! And so proud of themselves too. That department and those officers should be ashamed of themselves. These are the same batch of cops who when they pull over a 90yo lady, they hammer them with tickets because “the rules are the rules”. If you have a commander breathing down your back barking orders, I understand, rock and a hard place. But those of you so freely and willingly jumping out and hammering normal people just out with a loved one for a walk? Well, it’s good to know who you are, you’re the exact person that never should’ve been the police in the first place. The first chance you get to act like a totalitarian, you jump all over it, constitution be dammed. I hope the general public will hear the vast majority of officers are very much against this, but instead I know the story that will be told when it’s over will be about how police acted as the abusive arm of the government, because a few you like to bully normal people around but shutter at the thought of real police work.
I wanted to speak up for our Commander in 009. DJ always has our backs and says everything in such a common sense way that you believe him and act accordingly. Constantly preaching safety/family first without exception. He really is one of the few leaders we have left to trust. Stay safe. Watch your six.
The Twitter warrior will give up their rights in a second. Then bitch 3 months from now why they can't get their soy drink. They the shhep
Cmdr in 011th District ordering to close down block where he owns many buildings to keep collecting his Section 8 rents etc from tenants and government! Why is this fuckstick not only fired from this job but not in the penitentiary for his past? One way or the other ole boy’s days are numbered between Feds and a pissed off copper you fucked over and his or her family! Should have ended for him a long time ago but will soon. Bye Asshole. Careful every step. Watching you all the time.
I think everyone needs to use a bit more of the brain than they usually do.
* Coppers: If the order's illegal, look at your boss and tell him what he wants to hear. He said the same thing to his boss, and on up the line... Then when out in the street - do the right thing.
"Hey dude - ya'll gotta go inside so you don't get sick..."
"Fuck da policeeses..."
"Yeah, whatever. Get inside, if you get sick, ole girl gets sick, mom's get sick, auntie gets sick, shorties get sick... and they're gonna get you sick. It's like smoking glass shards from what I hear. But hey - you got this right? See ya..."
Then drive the fuck away. You did all you can do to get it through the members of the brain trust out there on the corner. And who knows? Maybe one or two of them might hear it enough and start talking with others and hear it from a couple other sources, and go inside when some of them get sick... Or maybe not. Who the fuck cares? Is it worth your house, pension, bank account, career? To enforce some unconstitutional order given by a 5' midget with a napoleon complex?
* People: Stop being fucking idiots. Yeah, go out, party, fuck da polices, whatever. This is the real deal for some people. For others it's a cold. But the real deal is like breathing shards of glass. Some people live, some don't. Old have died. Young have died. All who had it had PAIN... pneumonia in both lungs... And don't forget, no one can come visit you in the hospital - it's so contagious. You DIE ALONE. Ready for that? OK, then, stay on the street corner moron. Just don't go home and get everyone else sick who may not want to die.
Seriously - we're talking about 2 weeks. Try not to get too wasted for 2 weeks. Stay in, chill out. Watch tv, maybe read a book. Talk on video chat. Play some games. And when this is all over - go out and have the mother of all parties. Everyone will be at that point.
I have been given several group gathering, social distancing jobs over these last several weeks. In each instance I have 19 Pauled each and every one. As everyone can attest 19 Paul says it all...
AMEN!
Tuesday is soylent green day ! Her Majesty the Groot says you must comply !
There is a point here. To make an arrest may be necessary. To make a misdeamor arrest because you weren’t able to hold on to your ego!!!!
One step away from Brown Shirts and Jack Booted thugs. In fact maybe is some of the instances sited we areally there already. This time Blue Shirted Badged thugs. When the ship hits the fan your badge won't protect you, and we are getting very close to that pointhe. STOP being a mindless puppet. JUST SAY NO TO ILLEGAL ORDERS. There will be a big payday in your future for any discipline that comes your way as a result of disobeying and illegal order. There will be an accounting and it will not go well for the puppet thugs. Remember that hung many of the NAZI ORDER FOLLOWERS.
Wonder what the age group is of all these super cops chasing down citizens for being outside? I'm guessing you won't see allot of grey in their hair...
the late Captain Joe McCarthy got jammed up in the old 013th district that ran a tact wagon clearing the loitering gangbangers back in the late '70s for that. Those actions prompted lawsuits that resulted in defining the offender's illegal activity in the narrative of arrest reports. He had the lockups at Wood St filled almost every night.
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Cmdr in 011th District ordering to close down block where he owns many buildings to keep collecting his Section 8 rents etc from tenants and government! Why is this fuckstick not only fired from this job but not in the penitentiary for his past? One way or the other ole boy’s days are numbered between Feds and a pissed off copper you fucked over and his or her family! Should have ended for him a long time ago but will soon. Bye Asshole. Careful every step. Watching you all the time.
Little known fact! A lot of the owners of the Section 8 apartment buildings in the 'hood' develop reputations among the po' folk as being tough on scumbag tenants. They usually provide enhanced security in the building (CCTV, lighting, locks, and in this case, armed security provided by the city)and write leases that allow them to inspect individual apartments at any time. Oh yeah, they also charge CASH MONEY monthly and there are waiting lists to get into those units!!
More scammin' on the gubment!
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One step away from Brown Shirts and Jack Booted thug
Were The Blue Shorted Thugs Makes Cops look bad Maybe thats the other Intent/Agenda
“They” are seeing just how far they can push us.
It is time to push back.
The virus would not dare infect Don Jerome.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Seriously - we're talking about 2 weeks. Try not to get too wasted for 2 weeks. Stay in, chill out. Watch tv, maybe read a book. Talk on video chat. Play some games. And when this is all over - go out and have the mother of all parties. Everyone will be at that point.
4/14/2020 02:04:00 AM
I see you drank the Kool-Aid. Any radio assignment of complaints of people congregating in violation of this BS Wuhan scare should get a 19P, period. No advising, warning, lecturing, etc..
dont let anyone violate your civil liberties........
fatass and groot made executive orders, they are not laws, only guidelines.
fuck everybody and god bless me
Just a reader who has always strongly backed law enforcement- I am very concerned that officers across the country are losing the support of those who have stood by you during al of the hatred coming from the left over the past decade. It is very disappointing to see law enforcement officers whom I would normally have trusted implicitly to protect our rights as Americans now gladly support the unconstitutional trampling of those rights. I would hope that leaders within the law enforcement community would stand up and push back against enforcement of illegal orders. Where is your national FOP? Maybe they need to stand up.
Read up on your/my constitutional rights (more specifically the bill of rights). They are the corer stone to the LIMITS of our power.
It is not insubordination if you do not follow an unconstitutional order. Be safe be smart.
https://www.dph.illinois.gov/covid19/covid19-statistics
vs
City of Chicago recent crime statistics: with 19 dead and 47 more wounded by gunfire most violent 5 day span......
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/4/10/21217097/chicago-crime-violence-shootings-
Chicago is host to more deaths (19) caused by shootings than in 178 counties of Illinois 202 total counties due to the CoronaVirus ....Corvid-19 caused more deaths in the following 5 counties
1.Cook, (235)
2.Will, (63)
3.DuPage, (56)
4.Lake, (45)
5.Kane (24)
In the City of Chicago deaths (308) due to the CoronaVirus-Corvid-19.....
and I just renewed my vehicle registration formerly $101 dollars per year now $151 dollars per year.....
that former Illinois elected official Martin Sandoval promoted this new IDOT infrastructure legislation with a smile.... good thing he now is facing federal charges for corruption related to himself and Company of cohorts in elected office in the State of Illinois...
Let them gather, let them get sick it's called natural selection.
I’m not stopping anyone. Use your common sense. The idiots that are enforcing these orders are the same dumb fucks that would give another copper or their own mother a ticket. There’s always a bunch of these goofs in every district.
Don't forget. We have sworn to uphold the constitution. That oath trumps everything.
Plus, know your shit, Grout has not closed all parks.
Serious question from someone who has never served in law enforcement: Are you able to activate your bodycams when your superiors are issuing you questionable orders?
Agreed my friend. As I watch what some cops are doing out there I am almost embarrassed to think this is the profession I had dedicated 42 years to.
Bravo
I simply refuse to violate the civil rights of law abiding Americans!
The ACLU will be looking to eat an Officer alive in court over this Democratic order!
Chicago and these bossholes will let you hang in the wind and not back you up in Federal Courts, based on my experiences in court!
Just 19-Paul it all and go home to your family!
You heard this here first!
George Orwell comes to mind.
The Democratic Socialist Republic of California is a shit show.
Is it possible some cops are doing this as a form of revenge?I mean it sounds plausible to me.After years upon years of increasingly harsh public scrutiny it might be unavoidable that when the wheels have finally turned some cops are saying to themselves 'now its my turn'.It seems plausible and maybe even unavoidable.If you're treated badly and subject to unrealistc expectations you might eventually lash out the moment that becomes possible.
If you are unlucky enough to have to work in the shithole ghetto district, do what you know is right, fuck the bosses and mayor imp, what are they gonna do, put you in a ghetto district? your already in a shithole district. Fuck them.
They stay at home is a guide line from the federal government but the fat boy governor and shrimp mayor says it is law because they ordered it. They just want to be better than the president. It is not law, it is a down right violation of everyone’s first amendment right. Start writing tickets or locking people up on an illegal order you better hope your house is in your spouses name or you are gonna lose it.
I listened to a retired federal judge last night who stated that these local orders, absent martial law declaration, for citizens to stay off of the streets, on their porches or in the public way in any manner, are unlawful and unconstitutional. That is as long as the person is not violating a criminal law. The mayors and governors have taken upon themselves a power that is not vested in any state or the US constitution.It is even worse in other jurisdictions where mayors have planned to ban concealed carry. In Michigan, the governor has declared it unlawful to purchase anything at a store that is not food. In Pennsylvania liquor stores are closed and the state police in West Virginia have roadblocks to turn around anyone with an out of state license plate. Do you fear loss of liberties ? A fascist state? Well don't fear that from the republicans because it is the democrats who are flexing their muscle on this. Do not enforce any of these unlawful orders. You know the mayor will not back you, nor will the jury
The Obvious mutates into the Oblivious.
Right before your very eyes.
Golden Rules:
1. Do Unto Others As You Would Have Others Do Unto You.
2. Do Not Do Unto Others As You Would Others Not Do Unto You.
3. Put Not Your Own Head Up Your Own Ass, Nor Up The Ass Of Any Other, (not even when requested to do so).
Sometimes, ya feel like a nut; sometimes, ya feel like ya just have to nut; sometimes, it's just plain nuts.
Mister Peanut, esq.
Just ride around, go to these bs jobs then on every single 1 of these say 19P.
19P.19P.19P. Get it?
I'm a 36 year retiree, and I have nothing but sympathy for those on the job now. It is really easy for a retiree, already collecting their pension, to spout off on what they would do if they were still on the job. That is B.S.!
It is really easy to tell young Coppers not to obey the orders of their (sic) supervisors when you don't have any skin in the game any longer.
My personal advice is this- protect yourself and your partner. If they send you to break up a social gathering (as has already been posted) Go there, explain why they are in violation, ask them to break it up, and leave. You have done your part.
Some of these whack job guys who do some really stupid stuff for whatever reason are not just hurting themselves, they are hurting the public perception of all of us.
Please be careful out there, Brothers and Sisters, and as Sean Connery said in "The Untouchables"...You just fulfilled the first rule of law enforcement: Make sure when your shift is over, you go home alive.
God Bless You All for what you do, my prayers are with you daily.
Hey are you listening 011 Commander HUD Fraud Spencer? Guess you don't remember some of the good bosses (who had balls of steel)that you worked for. Grow the fuck up and grow some them steel balls you kiss ass fuck. I hope the world falls on you and you end up where you deserve. Unemployed and in the Federal Penitentiary.
The govt officials salivate are their newly found powers. So many parallels to the evil empire in star wars.
I am really surprised at how easily Major Corporations and businesses have caved in to remaining closed down while "ESSENTIAL" businesses are making a killing and roll right along.Makes you wonder if there is a time coming when there is a concerted and coordinated effort by businesses all over the country to publicly jump off of this Stay at Home/Martial Law destruction of the economy and challenge this Communism especially after President Trump moves to opening the Country up for business as local politicians attempt to hold onto their control.For all the sabre rattling about the city,s west and south sides ignoring the Stay at Home Orders,I do not see a large number of deaths and hospitalizations coming from those areas involving their younger or healthier residents.Preexisting respiratory ailments/asthma seem to be involved in a multitude of the positive cases.
You can't police stupid. If people want to put themselves in danger then so be it.
2:04 a.m. Just where the hell has it only been two weeks. That's flat out bullshit.
Isnt a church a licensed business? isnt a funeral home a licensed buisness?
Two PO's die in line of duty deaths and they arent able to have full services, but if you go to the west side, they will hook you up and let you do whatever you want.
It does “erode at respect” as his headline states and especially with the very people that it is probably most important for police to try and maintain what little we have left with: mostly law abiding people. If cops on the job at some point don’t start realizing that they are being utilized as political pawns to enact unconstitutional social controls by liberal politicians, they might as well just sign up for their Socialist/Communist card now. It’s all part of the plan. First let’s erode actual laws on the books by ignoring or reinterpreting them at behest of prosecutors acting like public defenders. Then let’s further thumb our noses at the law by allowing repeated violators out on ridiculous no money bonds or if that doesn’t work, we’ll use a pandemic as an excuse to clear the jails. Let’s continue to allow the media to tell lies that crime is down & that police are the criminals and criminals are just victims of society. All the perfect cocktail for chaos that will lead to a police force that is completely neutered and ready to do a Socialist regime’s bidding.
11th District merit Commander collecting guaranteed section 8 monthly payments doesn’t want his block ruined so he can continue collecting, don’t get involved with this asshole, refuse the jagoff who isn’t smart enough to pass a promotional test on his own!!!
When the protests start let the bosses go hands on. Stay away from unlawful orders coming from one-man-mass-gathering and the aclu lightloafers
Please answer a few questions about the social distancing violation order.
When officers are told to enforce this, is there any form of written notice? A General Order, Special Order or anything?
Is there a specific cited statute to enforce? ILCS 720 ??? What crime is possibly being committed?
Has the enforcement been cleared by Corporation Counsel, Office of Legal Affairs?
Are there specific procedures to be followed?
If the officer questions someone about their business on the public way for the purpose of taking criminal enforcement actions, isn't the officer required to give Miranda Warnings?
Stock market up. Most likely hit bottom for covid and is responding positive on the news of reopening the economy. But don't worry fat boy and little foot are going to extend the closure to further fuck over Chicagoans and Illinoians. Typical democrats that I am smarter than Trump bullshit.
Merit exempt hacks still expect activity because they get their orders from the politicians, or is it a personal thing for advancing on the merit ladder, or is it just the obnoxious or soured blue shirt looking to score some points for current if future desire?
Protect liberty and freedom.
When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty.
We’ll see how the suppressed lakefront feels in November.
All others - Stay Fetal
The parks and beaches are public areas paid for and maintained with tax revenue, as is the public way. Each tax paying citizen within the City of Chicago is entitled to the use and benefit of those areas encumbered only by the ordinances that govern their use, applicable to all equally and with uniformity.
If the political forces choose to modify the use of the parks, beaches and public way in general, they must, by law modify the ordinances that govern their use. The words I COMMAND, are soley for use by Kings, Queens, and the police in social order restoration. Political pawns have no authority to use them.
Common sense should predicate the enforcement of any modificaton to the use of public grounds, and in light of this pandemic, a true matter of concern, we should understand the dangerous condition of mass public gatherings in any space. But, to deny anyone the use and benefit of the parks, beaches and public way is forbidden with less than the temporary modification of the law, which has not been attained. If an individual is walking, or running on park property he or she is within their right, or if two or three choose to move together at a safe space from each other on these properties, they too are within their rights. Mass gatherings are a health hazzard to themselves, but also to the rest of society so disbanding those gatherings under the order of public health should be taken under advisement. That means to encourage them to spread apart to a safe space. This will not be the new norm, this is only a temporary condition due to the public health outbreak.
For any copper chasing a fisherman away from the water, shagging a jogger out of the park, threating arrest to a couple walking down the beach, JUST STOP. They're fine. No matter what any politician, or any police commander, deputy of other brass wearer says, THEY'RE FINE. Leave them alone. Say hello, tell them to be careful and remeber safe distancing and be on your way. Common sence people, and a minuscule knowledge of the rule of law. Have tubby and the troll seek temporary modification of the law through the appropriate means if they want to reign over people. Their personal word is meaningless.
"Hey dude - ya'll gotta go inside so you don't get sick..."
"Fuck da policeeses..."
"Yeah, whatever. Get inside, if you get sick, ole girl gets sick, mom's get sick, auntie gets sick, shorties get sick... and they're gonna get you sick. It's like smoking glass shards from what I hear. But hey - you got this right? See ya..."
Then drive the fuck away. You did all you can do to get it through the members of the brain trust out there on the corner. And who knows? Maybe one or two of them might hear it enough and start talking with others and hear it from a couple other sources, and go inside when some of them get sick... Or maybe not. Who the fuck cares?
4/14/2020 02:04:00 AM
That is actually some great advice here. Most police officers who are considered excellent police officers exercise something that has become a lost art amongst many newer police officers. It is called DISCRETION and COMMON SENSE. If you use both of those when making decisions, you will likely have a very successful police career. We as police officers have long used the mantra: You cant police stupidity. If they dont want to listen to you during this unprecedented time, DONT TAKE IT PERSONAL. You have done all you can do. Remember Persuasion, Advice, Warning. In these situations if they dont take what you have to offer THEN JUST LEAVE. Life to fight another day and to fight a battle that is more important in the big scheme.
To those of you out there fighting the good fight. Stay Safe, stay healthy and keep your family in mind at all times.
Ret Lt.
Get rid of Commander HUD ! Make 011 decent again
"Doesn't anyone see where this is going? The police are rarely arresting any real criminals and not writing tickets to traffic scofflaws. The States Attorneys here in Cook County aren't prosecuting any drug crimes (i.e. Heroin, Cocaine, etc.) unless it's a very large amount. The jail is releasing almost all prisoners well before their sentence is over even for agregious crimes like sexual assault, discharging a firearm, Agg Battery, etc. But we are now ticketing regular citizens for sitting in their cars, paddle boarding in empty waters, and even threatening them with arrests. This sounds like a bizzarro world or the liberal way of living."
Sam Francis called it "anarcho-tyranny".
Any police officer that takes the above described actions should be immediately terminated or just resign for lacking common sense and being unfit for duty. Same with the idiot cops in Colorado that handcuffed the retired cop
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
Benjamin Franklin
Your the one going to be in the trick bag pushing these orders. All the young bucks out there, use your discretion alot in these times, don't make the mistake of following unlawful orders and losing your job with civil rights suits. Code and move on, keep yourself safe, that's all that matters.
Groot is an Imbecile.
On the other hand, some people just won’t listen to rules and regulations, be it temporary for the best for all people.
It’s the “ Nobody’s going to tell me what to do” generation.
Ticket ? I don’t knoW. Cops, unfortunately, have to deal with those who snub the rules.
Just don’t ticket those people idiot.
Seems like good common sense was thrown out the damn window awhile ago.
“... STOP being a mindless puppet. JUST SAY NO TO ILLEGAL ORDERS. There will be a big payday in your future for any discipline that comes your way as a result of disobeying and illegal order. There will be an accounting and it will not go well...” @4/14/2020 04:15:00 AM
– That’s a fact Jack.
Hard chargers today don’t remember the Contact Card/Gang Dispersal civil suits and from late ‘90’s when bosses ignored the rescinded order.
Joe Merit Boss wants Dispersals Events, announce that order (in the name of Larri LightLoafer) to the gathering and carry on to the next. Thanks for a job well done. Everyone knows a verbal dispersal always clears the park, street corner and house party that they never come back after a stern warning of a $1000 StayInPlace fine.
Anything more than verbal instruction is absolutely foolish and subject to COPA deferral, maybe even a deposition at the Dirksen.
Chasing folks out’they pissing grounds like eager to please border collies corralling dumb sheep. It will not be worth it to engage in Larri’s Lock Down when shit hits the fan, especially when Corp Council is more than willing to settle with any claim and as COPA adds that to the disciplinary recommendation which soon they or other civilian justice group may be in total control of.
To all the CD out there remember this. If you do dumb things you will win dumb prizes. Sorry honey we lost the house and my pension. You don't want to have that conversation do you? Think before following what you know to be illegal orders. Your bosses and city wont have your backs but the courts will. Big check, back pay and reinstatement.
The US Constitution supersedes any and all orders your met has give you. Keep that in mind when acting and act accordingly. Look but don't see, chase but don't catch, witness but don't reelect. Problems solved.
Civil disobedience is as American as apple pie.
"... Sam Francis called it "anarcho-tyranny".
4/14/2020 11:40:00 AM."
Props on this. Sam Francis was "politically incorrect" which - we all know - means he was logically, rationally, culturally, & every other kinda way, correct. Rest in peace SF.
Obey all commands unless legally, morally or ethically compromised.
I remember hearing that somewhere.
Any police officer that takes the above described actions should be immediately terminated or just resign for lacking common sense and being unfit for duty. Same with the idiot cops in Colorado that handcuffed the retired cop
I just watched the video and hope the trooper is handed a BIG CHECK!
The kid is forever traumatized. The image of her father being handcuffed and hauled away to jail cannot be erased from her memory. Sad situation around.
Remember, this job is a big trick bag. Avoid getting tricked if you believe something ain't right it probably isn't. Call for a supervisor and let them make the call. Most supervisors have enough common sense to realize your ego is getting the best of you, and you need to be pulled back so you don't become a overnight Youtube sensation.
Look at this asshole Governor in MI. . She has the cops going into peoples houses and enforcing social distancing and other ass rag tyrant rules. She's making a try out to be bumble heads running mate in Nov. and wants to look decisive.
Let all this be a lesson of what America would look like if the Assholecrats and their propaganda arm get power back. And while they are fucking with you and stealing your freedom and money they are letting the animals loose from prisons, all calculated moves "hell they have security teams".
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Please answer a few questions about the social distancing violation order.
When officers are told to enforce this, is there any form of written notice? A General Order, Special Order or anything?
Is there a specific cited statute to enforce? ILCS 720 ??? What crime is possibly being committed?
Has the enforcement been cleared by Corporation Counsel, Office of Legal Affairs?
Are there specific procedures to be followed?
If the officer questions someone about their business on the public way for the purpose of taking criminal enforcement actions, isn't the officer required to give Miranda Warnings?
4/14/2020 09:28:00 AM
There's some type of paper on it but I don't recall them listing any statute. Gov. Fat Ass mentioned 'disorderly conduct' on the news the other day but I thought we could no longer sign complaints for that.
The late Sam Francis coined the term “Anarcho Tyranny” - this exist in America Leftist places with extremely high levels of violent crime - where car jacking and murders , eluding attacks aren t being prosecuted instead the government is bullying regular citizens about everything like walking alone on bike path.
nonymous said...
Obey all commands unless legally, morally or ethically compromised.
I remember hearing that somewhere.
4/14/2020 09:26:00 PM
Well, I do agree with obeying legal commands, and even what is legal is open to definition. But, Moral and ethical? Well, if you failed to obey a command because YOU thought it was immoral or unethical, you would really be on shaky ground. After being involved in many labor grievances over the years there is one standard that every hearing officer adhered to; obey now and grieve later. Refusing a direct order can cost you your job
“The US Constitution supersedes any and all orders...” Problems solved. 4/14/2020 06:50:00 PM
– True. First pay your attorney $10,000 retainer fee and in 18 months of legal wrangling you’ll get an opportunity to state your case, maybe even trying to get your job back. Staying Fetal is better than a CTA subway ride to 219 S Dearborn
My advice would be, do NOTHING and DO NOT enforce anything LL says.
notify the feds , merit command staff don't know general orders , rules regulations , certainly don't know the constitution or federal consent decree order .
Why the hell would anyone do 40 year's in the shithole CPD ????
Anonymous said...
When the protests start let the bosses go hands on. Stay away from unlawful orders coming from one-man-mass-gathering and the aclu lightloafers
4/14/2020 09:26:00 AM
*** It won't be long.
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