Nice Schedule Idiots
We're sure this is the product of numerous morons, but get a load of this starting Friday (from an a-mailer):
- I work days, by bid. Friday I'm RDO Canceled, so the Department is making me work 1600 to 0400 hours
Then Saturday, my Regular Working Day, I work 0700 to 1900 - but only if I manage to land a late car. Otherwise it's 0600 to 1800.
So I work 24 hours out of 26 or 27 hours? This is legal?
A better question should be, "Is this safe?"
And the answer is, "No, but Groot doesn't care."
UPDATE: One rumor says this schedule runs all the way through 08 September? We're thinking Groot wants us to shoot somebody so Crimesha has some scalps to hang on the wall.
Disengage boys and girls. Disengage.
And the answer is, "No, but Groot doesn't care."
UPDATE: One rumor says this schedule runs all the way through 08 September? We're thinking Groot wants us to shoot somebody so Crimesha has some scalps to hang on the wall.
Disengage boys and girls. Disengage.
Labels: department issues, un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
166 Comments:
I should have extended my furlough
It ain't legal and it ain't safe.
Hospital workers get screwed like this all the time under the
pretense that a hiring freeze is in effect.
Welcome to the club.
You heard it here first. 12 hours until further notice which means Labor Day. Check the money box and kiss your family goodbye for 10 days
The order is OUT.... They snuck this out on the Document Management System in clear at 1951hrs
This is when you take a sick day. Plain & simple. Definitely not worth being exhausted. Definitely not worth burning your own time.
First they put out that 3rd watch was working 6-6. Then after we made all our arrangements for childcare, they put out another document that says we are all 3-3. Wtf.
hey fop...how about filing a lawsuit on behalf of your membership for unfair labor practices!!! its taking a toll..physically and mentally...not to mention the fact that our children and spouses also suffer.
I don’t think it’s possible to hate this department and the people running it more than I do right now. Just no regard for Officers well being. We need time away from this shit hole job. We are not robots. We are going to make mistakes when we are over worked like this. Fuck each and everyone of you in charge.
This is fuckin bullshit
Let the city burn
From my SCC Thesaurus, disengage means fetal.
You're so damn tired you conserve energy to protect YOURSELF.
You owe them nothing. Family and self come first.
Once again, less than a 24hr notice!
When the f@ck will our union step up???
And how many squads are used to “protect” her home ?
The out of town jafoffs currently in Kenosha are on a Midwest trip.
Guess where they will be Saturday?
Stay safe and be well rested to perform your duties
If we have to call 911 and there are no cars coming, we understand.
Hey groot and jabba, hope you have the Feds or ISP on stand by and ready to deploy,
If not, you gonna have some 'splainin to do if this shit spills into some neighborhoods.
Call in sick due to fatigue. Problem solved.
blue flu. simple as that. not even faked at that point. if you're not able to safely handle your firearm or drive a vehicle due to utter exhaustion, then don't do so. don't sacrifice your freedom due to a mistake made by being a tough guy and coming to work
you come first.
From day one of the political virus Covid we all knew they didn’t care about us. There was no sucks thing as Covid. The last thing the city cares about is out well being
Riots in Minneapolis Minnesota after alleged murdering shithead offs himself on the street.
Police blamed, protests immediately morph into riot, window smashing, and looting.
People of he Community see the looting, jump in cars and drive downtown to do their early Christmas shopping.
For a change, the Boy Blunder, Mayor Frey acts decisively, declares an immediate curfew, calls for state police and National Guard. Governor Walz doesn't dilly dally for four freaking days, authorizes the Guard and State Police, even Department of Corrections to IMMEDIATELY rspond.
Just stay fetal. Don’t risk your future or that of your family.
Fuck Groot.
I'm so tired
I haven't slept a wink
Where does it say you have to work 1600-0400 on your RDO???
over 20 years ago the city stopped letting anyone work more than 16 hours a day during emergencys. we were hungry and wanted the o.t. and we were very short handed of people that actually knew how to do the work they were hired for. tough shitzky, federal law they said, someone had brought the wrath of osha down on the den of theives. youse guys have guns, drive fast, fight savage beasts and its all good ! sleep is for weaklings ! family ? see em when you retire ! i agree, there is always an agenda with these lawmakers that always ignore the laws themselves. learn to sleep standing up like the army on guard duty, dark glasses standard equip. do nothing in a sleep deprived state that could hurt you. the entire leadership of shitcago couldnt give a damn about the city or its taxpayers, why should you. remember, when your on the front lines with the mob, the gargoyle mayor will be polluting the lake in michigan in a one piece like the penguin, while her armed valets toss smelts in her mouth. fat man will be on his boat in lake geneva eating caviar dumped down a funnel by the state police, while his wife slim bastes him with butter with a mop. toni will be in her coven stirring a witches brew praying to the dark lords, while dart and kim the fixxer stare into a mirror and kiss their reflections. and they all make WAAAY more than you ! stand down ! nothing left to save. collect the ot and fukkem, next year there may not be a police dept or anything left to police. emulate your betters and take care of number one only . may jesus, allah, budda send the fire of a thousand hot wings up their red baboon asses.
"And I better not catch you guys
leaning, sitting or resting either.
Or else...
I ain't playin' with you...
There will be reckonings...
There WILL FINALLY be 'Police Reform and Accountability'
for you openly rebellious Cops and your RACIST EFF-OH-PEE!
There will be 'community justice' too..."
Local media will say:
"Cops and their union are in a pout about
finally being made to earn their keep by
Mayor Lightfoot and Supt. Brown."
During the riots after George Floyd died of an overdose, we were told that when they cancel your RDO the Department can start you anytime they want on that day, regardless of your current watch. However if I’m reading section 20.7 on page 30 of the contract correctly, the city can only change your staring time by 7 hours for unforeseen events. That would mean 0700 day people could only be started as late as 1400 when they are cancelled. The contract doesn’t really address starting times between watches. Just talks about 1st watch change day only being required to work 4 hours IF they worked full 3rd watch shift the day before change day. I was always under the impression you were guaranteed at least 6 hours between shifts. Can’t find that in writing though.
Saturday it is going to go down Oakland is right now
I (as everyone) is absolutely sick of this shit. There has got to be some type of labor law violation here. People are absolutely wore out. The last week long shit-show of 12 hrs and no days off was an absolute waste of taxpayer money. I have never seen such incompetent leadership and such hate for the police as I've seen under the reign of this thin-skinned troll mayor of ours. Absolutely disgusting!
This is crazy and the reason I am leaving Chicago. I have lived since 2000 and seen it get worse every year crime wise. In 2009 I feel I noticed it and all the politicians talk is guns are the problem or certain group needs more money and opportunities. BS we need more police and Kim Fox to do her job. Lucky I inherited a little money to buy a place cash where I move. I expect crime where I move but they actually don’t encourage it like the Lori and citizens are armed. Here the descent citizens and cops are powerless. Lori Lightfoot f u and Gov Fat Ass. And I know others that will be gone with in a year. Not a cop. I appreciate all of you. Never had a bad experience and seen up close what you all deal with even with drunk Cubs fans.
Days r working 0600-1600 or 0700-1900
Only a fool would do any more than they have to.
You could consider contacting Illinois OSHA and making a complaint. Degraded job performance has been recognized by OSHA as a serious risk with extended shifts and work schedules. Enough people complain you might get some traction?
http://www.osha.gov/stateplans/il
https://www.osha.gov/OshDoc/data_Hurricane_Facts/faq_longhours.html
http://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/standardinterpretations/2016-07-12
So I work 24 hours out of 26 or 27 hours? This is legal?
A better question should be, "Is this safe?"
It is perfectly safe and legal as long as you change your underwear and socks every 8 hours. Stop the stank!
If you are twins, no problem. One does the RDO Fri and the other does the regular day Sat.
UPDATE: One rumor says this schedule runs all the way through 08 September? We're thinking Groot wants us to shoot somebody so Crimesha has some scalps to hang on the wall.
Disengage boys and girls. Disengage.
Labels: department issues, un-fucking-believable
God forbid but if it's going to happen make sure you're protecting her residence and family...
So now that I read this post this makes me recircle to my thoughts on CFD. How is it fire works a 24 hour shift but cops can't? Just thinking aloud here. I know a paramedic for CFD and they are busy 24 7.
Groot DEMORATS Trying to Break US and The Union
(Management That Stupid for Schedules???) Software can do it
CPD Safety and Our Family Has never been their Concern
You get run down and Sick or Make Fatal Mistakes City Hall Densest Care
As If the Lawlessness and Taxes weren't Enough
They Don't Even Care for Decades about Black Lives being Murdered By Gang Violence
Tear Down the System So Biden Harris Can Build Back Better
It's All about a New SOCIALIST AGENDA THEY Want Us in FEAR and SILENT COMPLIANT
Enjoy Your CLOUT Now ????????????????????
Got TO Vote Law and Order TRUMP
*Dare You To Put a Sign in the Window
med-i-cal
Everyone needs to hit the medical. Fuck the midget. Let her have the social workers and blm rioters solve the problems. Anyone who does anything over Labor Day weekend has oatmeal for brains. Let the self cleaning oven do its thing. Don’t become the next viral video, because even if you’re right, you’re wrong. And a big fuck you to MLB, and locally, Jason Heyward. I wasn’t watching much anyways, but six teams canceling games over a pedophile with a knife, warrants, and the inability to follow the laws and verbal direction is absolutely ridiculous and disgusting. The NBA? Yeah, who cares about that crap, expected from them. I’m so sick of it all, and there’s nowhere to go to get away from it. Canada is worse than here, Mexico’s is a third world corrupt, dangerous cesspool and Europe is being inundated with the religion of “peace” migrants. Too fucking cold to hang out in Antarctica with the penguins. Speaking of the religion of peace, those asshats are awfully quiet lately. What kind of evil fuckery is on tap from that crew? 2020 blows.
BLUE FLU!! Stick it to Lightfoot. Let BLM run wild for liberals to see. These 12 hr days are hurting YOU and YOUR families!
Enough is enough!
What does FOP say about this??????
Is there a single good boss on this job? If so, they don’t work in 018, after working in another district and then coming to 018 to see the other side of things it’s clear that that place is run by clowns. When do district bids come out, I’m headed back west.
The order came out last night. Those are not the hours.... read before speaking
That’s the start time for third watch. Second will start at 0600 or 0700 hours. It still all sucks!
Back to normal beginning 1st watch Monday. Back to 12s then beginning 1st watch Friday September 4th through the 8th.
Thirty eight months without a contract. Go get em boys and girls!
Groot's only job politically is to crash the city for the Democrats and keep the anti police theme going. Still think she's incompetent?
The schedule is being done by those who never had a bad day on the job.....unless they broke a fingernail or got a paper cut.
Paper cuts are nasty however.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
It's okay. The mayor is still making use of her vacation days to skip town.
Retire in sept. Good luck guys
Let it Burn!
https://www.reddit.com/r/ConservativeMemes/comments/ihje44/protection_for_me/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Hit the medical!
Anonymous said...
First they put out that 3rd watch was working 6-6. Then after we made all our arrangements for childcare, they put out another document that says we are all 3-3. Wtf.
8/27/2020 12:13:00 AM
Don't get married or have children you don't want anything criminals can go after!
By contract, on your RDO you have no schedule. Assigned any hours unfortunately
people get sick all the time.....
If this is what we’re dealing with now, what will November look like if Trump wins again? We might not have a day of until the New Year. I’m not kidding, These groups will be out here everyday “protesting.” With colleges doing remote learning, they’ll have the time to get out and protest everyday.
So do something. Start taking out your corrupt leaders. With the fifty billion laws in the country, there’s nothing covering politicians going rogue?
I’m starting both of my cancelled RDO’s at 4pm which is eight hours later than my normal start time. What about the people normally starting at 5:30 am? They’re starting 10 1/2 hours from their normal start time? If their goal is to make people quit, don’t worry, they’re going to win. They can have this job, I’m making plans to get out and you should too before something happens while you’re overworked, tired and frustrated. You can keep your insurance and home wrecking job.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Is there a single good boss on this job? If so, they don’t work in 018, after working in another district and then coming to 018 to see the other side of things it’s clear that that place is run by clowns. When do district bids come out, I’m headed back west.
8/27/2020 04:40:00 AM
There are good bosses left, but not in 018 anymore. I remember the current commander when she made sergeant and had to tact team on her log. Yikes, I think she was so lost.
Truckers & pilots have regulations against working so many hours without rest. Where's your union?
So now that I read this post this makes me recircle to my thoughts on CFD. How is it fire works a 24 hour shift but cops can't? Just thinking aloud here. I know a paramedic for CFD and they are busy 24 7.
8/27/2020 02:46:00 AM
Are you serious? Fire fighters sleep every night in a bed unless out on a call. If a fire house does not have calls then they relax in the fire house and sleep at night. God bless the fire fighters but they do not have to stand on a corner for 12 hrs and no access to a toilet. Society treats fire fighters as heroes.
OT: Ch 32 online had a post about the city setting up barriers for a “training exercise” the city will be conducting downtown tonight, Thursday, from 6-9pm. Anyone know anything about this.
Is it training for future protection of the groot castle?
Where is Fatass with the National Guard??
Civilian here: Safety first, always.
We law-abiding citizens need you, but your family needs you more: safe on the street and then safely at home.
God bless.
Got a Reminder I have training scheduled from 0700-1600 and then start 1st watch at 1700-0700 same day. Thanks
If you don't feel good hit the medical, that's why it's there. The chinese name each year after an animal. This has to be the year of the jackass. Be safe all and watch each others 6.
I am RDO this weekend but I refuse to come in to work due to the mistreatment of blacks by the American criminal justice system
Praying from afar for your safety and health brothers and sisters.
DISENGAGE for your family’s sake.
Dude shoots himself in Minneapolis and they riot. Stay out of enforcing anything in the hood. If it goes south you are on your own.
Has anyone seen County? Are they suiting up and assisting at all? Chicago is in Cook county so one would think they would be out helping during all this shit. Wisc Sheriff’s were out, not our clout heavy sheriff Dept though. I guess someone will be going to jail again every day this weekend
There is a study on sleep deprivation and the physical and cognitive effects it has on the body. It greatly reduces your ability to make good decisions and is detrimental to your physical and mental health. The number of hours you are awake without rest at some point begins to have the equivalent of alcoholic intoxication. We are not allowed to be intoxicated while on duty and it is grounds for immediate termination. If this is true, how is sleep deprivation allowed on duty when the effects are the same as being drunk?
Your back must hurt for wearing the vest and gun belt for so long. Medical people. Fuck these liberal citizens and the piece of crap mayor. If the citizens and mayor won't back you for doing police work then let them handle everything themselves.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So now that I read this post this makes me recircle to my thoughts on CFD. How is it fire works a 24 hour shift but cops can't? Just thinking aloud here. I know a paramedic for CFD and they are busy 24 7.
8/27/2020 02:46:00 AM
That is cause they then get 3 days off before their next 24 shift! I’ll take 24 on and 72 off any day.
Illinois One Day Rest in Seven Act
(820 ILCS 140/2) (from Ch. 48, par. 8b)
Sec. 2. Hours and days of rest in every calendar week.
(a) Every employer shall allow every employee except those specified in this Section at least twenty-four consecutive hours of rest in every calendar week in addition to the regular period of rest allowed at the close of each working day.
-AND-
(820 ILCS 140/4) (from Ch. 48, par. 8d)
Sec. 4. Before operating on the first day of the week, which is commonly known as Sunday, every employer shall post in a conspicuous place on the premises, a schedule containing a list of his employees who are required or allowed to work on Sunday, and designating the day of rest for each. Anything in this Act to the contrary notwithstanding, no employee shall be required to work on the day of rest so designated for him.
(Source: P.A. 80-1294.)
File complaint with Illinois Dept of Labor on their website:
One Day Rest violations: https://www2.illinois.gov/idol/forms/Documents/ODRISA%20Complaint%20Form.pdf
FU let it burn, go back to where you came from jagoff...
Anonymous said...
Call in sick due to fatigue. Problem solved.
8/27/2020 12:34:00 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No cop worth anything would think less of you. If you were supposed to be in 811 on that day protecting my neighborhood, I still don't care. Take the time off. We will understand.
Thank you for your service and stay safe.
FOP did file the ULP you idiot. Quit trying to start shit. How about you stand up to your supervisor and hit the medical?!
So now that I read this post this makes me recircle to my thoughts on CFD. How is it fire works a 24 hour shift but cops can't? Just thinking aloud here. I know a paramedic for CFD and they are busy 24 7.
And they get how many days off after 48 hours. Let them try it with no days off. By the way are you circling your finger up CFD’s ass...
Last Labor Day I stood around downtown doing nothing, this Labor Day I’ll be grilling. Retired in January. F you groot. Next year I’ll be celebrating the 4th in another state.
Anonymous said...
So now that I read this post this makes me recircle to my thoughts on CFD. How is it fire works a 24 hour shift but cops can't? Just thinking aloud here. I know a paramedic for CFD and they are busy 24 7.
8/27/2020 02:46:00 AM
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CFD gets a station with a kitchen and beds. They get to sleep when they aren't on a run. They then are off three days after their 24. Do cops get to sleep on their 24? Do they get days off afterwards? Nope. Clearly no comparison.
Disengage and turn your backs on this shitty so called mayor and her flunky loser Seal looking Supt
How ironic.
Everyone knows that an intact family (mother & fathers) is a better environment in which to raise children, especially boys. Something about a role model, where the father works (mostly likely the mother too).
The best environment is where the father and mother have time to devote to their children. You know, camping trips, little league, boy scouts (that the liberals have destroyed) and so on.
The democrats have attacked the intact family. Back in the day mom stayed home and took care of the kids. (We now see stay-at-home dads, which makes sense - person with the greater earning potential works). Why do we need, for the first time in record history, both the mother and family working outside the house? Taxes, high taxes is the answer. If you analyze the two income finance I think you'll find that compared to 1950s (before the Great Society) one of the incomes now gos to paying the higher taxes needed to support the community. Factor in the expense of child care and the need to eat out more often (because both partners are working) and your net gain over the one income of the 1950's is minuscule.
You are working so other's don't at the expense of our children.
I think, from my experience, that fathers who are cops are the generally the best fathers in the neighborhood. They are part of their kids lives and push their kids to grow into good citizens.
It is now so ironic that the city is forcing cops to work, thus unable to fulfil their responsibility to their own families, so that that they can deal and protect a community where the intact family is a rarity.
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When Johnson pasted the Great Society bill he reportedly said "we this act with have the n----r (his words not mine) for the next hundred years.
If black lives do indeed matter, maybe we would all be better off if the black community would emulate the cultures whose values seem to be superior to that of say South Africa.
Hey hospital worker , we’ve been part of the club for a long time. Don’t you dare compare what you do to what we do you fuckin jagoff
The union hasn’t been heard from in weeks. They need to speak up. This is bullshit
There are labor laws in Illinois and I am sure some of them apply to the police
Guys go on the fucking medical - everyone - stay home and take care of your family and neighbors!!!!! Retired guy
You could consider contacting Illinois OSHA and making a complaint.
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government employees are not covered by such rules.
The correct terminology should be Medical, boys and girls Medical.
the first watch starts schedule today working for friday, he dumbkoffs start the first watch one day later to make it work, again the merit system shows the complete incompetence.
18th district asshole heading back west, don’t let the door hit you in the ass
Just a Chicago resident, not a cop. Answer is "call in sick for 2nd shift". You've sufficient union rules to allow sick-time without repercussions, so follow exactly the requirements to "call in sick" and do so. Save us taxpayers the next riot, the next BLM-sanctioned looting spree, the next indignant "wrongful whatever" SJW protest. It's a powder-keg of rancid SJW-warrior mayhem and property destruction and wanton expenditures of taxpayers' real estate tax payments.
I'm a deeply unhappy Streeterville resident. Contrary to popular opinion on this site, we're not all SJWs angry at police. We're angry at the corruption and stupidity of our elected local officials, the merit promotions that've clearly wrecked CPD and CPS, and Little Lori Lightfoot, Preckwinkle, Foxx, Evans, Dart, and the entire Daley Family Combine. My neighbors would sell and move now, immediately, but 60611 real estate market is dead, with near zero sales or pending contracts (less than 10% of current listings "under contract"). I'm a senior citizen. Chicago is in far worse shape than during 1968 unrest.
Is there a single good boss on this job? If so, they don’t work in 018, after working in another district and then coming to 018 to see the other side of things it’s clear that that place is run by clowns. When do district bids come out, I’m headed back west.
8/27/2020 04:40:00 AM
Yeah, kool-aid drinker became offended when I commented on how JS is a nice enough person and swell gal but shuffling papers@ HQ is vastly different from real life oversight of daily operations at a real district. Needless to say, are friendship took a hit. LN, still luv ya like a bro- C
The Blue Flu is what she wants. That gives here major advantage on the contract arbitration. Go to work. defend your self, write paper. go home safely. I'd be happy to have an ISR written to save someone from being on the street.
What’s the beef Stu ?
Go around and around trying to play preplanned event (riot) or sudden emergency (natural disaster) is only a matter of how come I only get paid time and a half. It’s a union thing that’s still not resolved or understood because of city lawyers semantics. This isn’t new and it’s been around for over twenty five years, going back when we used to be deployed for either Humboldt Park carnival and the Marquette Park marches. There’s just not enough police to man every Democrat manufactured event.
12 hours tours suck no matter what and where, either you’re bored shitless or overloaded and dehydrated by the time it’s over.
Plan on getting bunion removed or sore knee scoped. Maybe you’ve been exposed to a deadly stay at home disease.
C’mon man, you know that thing ! If enough y’all just made use of those benefits. Duty Availability should have fill in replacements available for those times when the Watch is depleted for couple weeks, e.g. House Mice.
Btw...
A weary, absentee Larri LightFührer won’t be back in town until this weekends preplanned dead and wounded are counted and plywoods are reattached.
Labour Affairs...
When a water main bursts at 10pm Sat or Sun night and causes flooding the entire neighborhood, say 3400 Wrightwoods, is the city plumber crew getting a premium double time for the wake up and fix this shit or are they a 24/7 straight time operation?
over 20 years ago the city stopped letting anyone work more than 16 hours a day during emergencys. we were hungry and wanted the o.t. and we were very short handed of people that actually knew how to do the work they were hired for. tough shitzky, federal law they said, someone had brought the wrath of osha down on the den of theives. youse guys have guns, drive fast, fight savage beasts and its all good ! sleep is for weaklings ! family ? see em when you retire ! i agree, there is always an agenda with these lawmakers that always ignore the laws themselves. learn to sleep standing up like the army on guard duty, dark glasses standard equip. do nothing in a sleep deprived state that could hurt you. the entire leadership of shitcago couldnt give a damn about the city or its taxpayers, why should you. remember, when your on the front lines with the mob, the gargoyle mayor will be polluting the lake in michigan in a one piece like the penguin, while her armed valets toss smelts in her mouth. fat man will be on his boat in lake geneva eating caviar dumped down a funnel by the state police, while his wife slim bastes him with butter with a mop. toni will be in her coven stirring a witches brew praying to the dark lords, while dart and kim the fixxer stare into a mirror and kiss their reflections. and they all make WAAAY more than you ! stand down ! nothing left to save. collect the ot and fukkem, next year there may not be a police dept or anything left to police. emulate your betters and take care of number one only . may jesus, allah, budda send the fire of a thousand hot wings up their red baboon asses.
OMG you are ridiculously hilarious! Like a CPS student, I was captivated with your vision of the world. Please allow me to bask in the shear wonderment of your presence. I'll buy!
This is by design. This is ALL by design.
This is to ensure you are over-worked, over-tired and unable to make split-second decisions based on logic, reason and training.
This is so you are worn down and stressed out. So your brain is slow.
They want you to make the wrong move. They are setting the table so you do so.
Make sure you stay hydrated (water) and eat healthy. Do not over-use energy drinks (caffeine) or sugar.
Make sure your brain is functioning properly.
Use logic and reason, not emotion.
-Not a cop.
what ever happened to the federal law that forbid making employees work seven days in a week?
Ran across this today and it struck me as terribly apropos given Gollum, Browneye and the gold-braid incompetents -
"There is a great deal of talk about loyalty from the bottom to the top. Loyalty from the top down is even more necessary and much less prevalent. One of the most frequently noted characteristics of great men who have remained great is loyalty to their subordinates."
- George S Patton
Anonymous said...
So now that I read this post this makes me recircle to my thoughts on CFD. How is it fire works a 24 hour shift but cops can't? Just thinking aloud here. I know a paramedic for CFD and they are busy 24 7.
Yes, they, paramedics, work one 24 hour shift then get 3 days off in a row. We have to work numerous 12 hour shifts in a row without a day off, start times changed by as much as 4 hours in violation of our contract, and the 12 hour days usually turn into 14-15 hour days. Yes, i know paramedics too and they do work very hard but you have to look at the whole picture.
So now that I read this post this makes me recircle to my thoughts on CFD. How is it fire works a 24 hour shift but cops can't? Just thinking aloud here. I know a paramedic for CFD and they are busy 24 7.
Yes they do work 24 hrs straight but then are off for 72 hrs straight to recover. Sign me up.
If you do t know what you’re talking about shut the f up!
I'm day off 62.. rdo cancelled Saturday night.. 1900-0700. Regular days on Sunday. 0700-1900. We are scheduled to work 24 hours straight. Community safety team lol.
Every exempt and their staff should have to stand on a corner the whole time with the troops if they leave everybody follows see how long that would last
You could consider contacting Illinois OSHA and making a complaint. Degraded job performance has been recognized by OSHA as a serious risk with extended shifts and work schedules. Enough people complain* you might get some traction?
http://www.osha.gov/stateplans/il
https://www.osha.gov/OshDoc/data_Hurricane_Facts/faq_longhours.html
http://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/standardinterpretations/2016-07-12
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*Here's the link for making an OSHA complaint: https://www.osha.gov/pls/osha7/eComplaintForm.html
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So now that I read this post this makes me recircle to my thoughts on CFD. How is it fire works a 24 hour shift but cops can't? Just thinking aloud here. I know a paramedic for CFD and they are busy 24 7.
8/27/2020 02:46:00 AM
Because they get two days off after the 24 hr shift.
Netflix and stay fetal, better yet embryonic or even a zygote. 19pension, fuk u groot.
years ago there was a copper I worked with that worked in excess of 16 hours (worked his shift and then dept. sanctioned overtime for a special event). on his way home he fell asleep and got into a fatal crash killing the motorist he ran into. after that he never saw a promotion, assignment to any unit he put in for and pure hell at the hand of the bosses (which definitely rolled down from the top).
Beware that this could happen to any one of us. I will put a good portion of next check on it that the fucking city won't back us and will go out of its way to jam us up if and when this happens to us. Yeah the OT $$ is great but its no fun living through the bullshit. especially from some desk jockey exempt or Copa investigator arm chair quarterbacking our actions.
Then there's the pure physical and mental exhaustion while at work. we know what happens when we take a break (popcorn and coffee).
Remember why we signed up to be the police, but also remember your coworkers and family and don't jeopardize any of them for these pieces of shit and politicians.
Get off work at 0400 and back to work at 0600? I don't think so. Get your sleep and then go to work. What are they going to do, dock you? And if you have a boss with balls, he/or she will carry you for the hours you miss. In fact they would have TOLD you to come in late.
For the dumbass that posted this:
"So now that I read this post this makes me recircle to my thoughts on CFD. How is it fire works a 24 hour shift but cops can't? Just thinking aloud here. I know a paramedic for CFD and they are busy 24 7."
CFD gets to sleep at work, genius.
Here is another example of how the Dummy from Dallas is continuing to mismanage the Department, its personnel and its resources. He truly is out of his league and it shows by his own hand how stupid he really is and by being the good "German" soldier just "following orders".
The desperation in the Murder Queens voice, the hard lines of failure cut deep into her facial features, fear of exposure of her public incompetence, she now realizes, but will never admit, that as mayor, she is a complete and utter failure even in Murder City. Even the ever loyal but dumb Aldercreature smell blood in the political waters.
As more looting and the sacking of the city is expected this weekend, her adding concrete blocks and barricades at intersections provide the background for scenes from downtown Beirut. It adds to the urban destruction of the of the former "Mag Mile" (AKA: Demolished Mile) and the boarded up and rubbled dow1ntown area. Under the lack of leadership by the Massillon Midget, the third largest city in the country is in shambles, bankrupt, destroyed and sacked. Another shit job being done by Shitty City's first Marxist Democrat mayor.
Shame, shame shame should be heaped upon the Massillon Midget and the Dummy from Dallas.
If CPD is requiring you to work 7 or more days in a row that would seem to contradict IL labor law which requires one day in seven off unless done voluntarily or the employee is classified in several job exceptions such as “watchman.” I didn’t see police officer on the exception list.
https://employment.laws.com/illinois-labor-laws-breaks
You can file a complaint here:
https://www2.illinois.gov/idol/Pages/Complaints.aspx
Anonymous said...
You could consider contacting Illinois OSHA and making a complaint. Degraded job performance has been recognized by OSHA as a serious risk with extended shifts and work schedules. Enough people complain you might get some traction?
http://www.osha.gov/stateplans/il
https://www.osha.gov/OshDoc/data_Hurricane_Facts/faq_longhours.html
http://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/standardinterpretations/2016-07-12
8/27/2020 01:50:00 AM
The CPD and maybe the whole city is exempt from OSHA regulations. Maybe there is some other agency to contact but it’s not OSHA for some reason.
CFD only works once every three days. CPD is being asked to work 7 days a week.
So now that I read this post this makes me recircle to my thoughts on CFD. How is it fire works a 24 hour shift but cops can't? Just thinking aloud here. I know a paramedic for CFD and they are busy 24 7.
8/27/2020 02:46:00 AM
Here we go again with RDO's canceled and the implement of 12 hours. CPD has NO leadership and CPD has no real plans for civil unrest. Suggestion:Post the National Guard up and down Michigan Avenue, State St, and at every major shopping center.
McDonald's is run by one CLOWN, CPD is run by many CLOWNS who are complete idiot's!!!!!
Anonymous said...
Saturday it is going to go down Oakland is right now
8/27/2020 01:12:00 AM
Huh?
12 hours are very very dangerous and affect your awareness, thinking, and your health. CPD is going to get an officer hurt or killed. So sad that CPD has NO real plans for civil unrest and CPD has NO leadership.
Whoever the moronic hack boss is that thinks 12 hour days is the solution to everything? I’d like to buy you a drink........ of Liquid Plumber! This is unsustainable you horse’s ass! Especially this 1800 to 0600 hours! Many of us have kids. You’re running us straight into the ground.
FOP needs to say something about this, every time CPD decides to cancel RDO's and implement 12 hours. We need something in the CONTRACT to stop this MADNESS before an officer gets hurt or killed. RDO's canceled should be triple time pay.
Class Action Law Suit for "Post traumatic"", start the petition, get the doctor's and lawyer's
together, quit givin us the Fop sticker's(which we can't use) and use the funds for suit!
DONT watch the NBA ! Boycott THE NBA !
it's not safe
hit the medical , reason exhaustion , headaches from lack of sleep
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So now that I read this post this makes me recircle to my thoughts on CFD. How is it fire works a 24 hour shift but cops can't? Just thinking aloud here. I know a paramedic for CFD and they are busy 24 7.
8/27/2020 02:46:00 AM
How in the name of Holy Moses, did you pass the psych test?
Is there a single good boss on this job? If so, they don’t work in 018, after working in another district and then coming to 018 to see the other side of things it’s clear that that place is run by clowns. When do district bids come out, I’m headed back west.
8/27/2020 04:40:00 AM
No you won’t
They think if you're working for time and 1/2 its ok to screw you more. This dept don't give a damn about you.
I think I’d submit a statement to W/C that you’re reporting to work per orders given and that you’re doing so under duress ..so if something happens hopefully you’ll be covering you ass..
I hit the medical, your back tends to go out standing for hours.
Anonymous said...
So now that I read this post this makes me recircle to my thoughts on CFD. How is it fire works a 24 hour shift but cops can't? Just thinking aloud here. I know a paramedic for CFD and they are busy 24 7.
8/27/2020 02:46:00 AM
Not that fire departments do not work hard or earn their pay, but if they are not actively engaged in fighting a fire, they sleep at the station house. Officers can not sleep/nap while on duty. Police officers must be awake and aware, stand a post, drive at high speeds multiple times in a shift, and they must be able to think and reason well enough to make decisions on whether to use deadly force or not.
It is a rarity that a fireman must be engaged in fighting a fire for 12 hours, much less 20 or more in a 24 hour time period.
I like how the order itself is dated 24 August 2020 which is Monday.....but you’re telling us TODAY the 27th that rdo’s are cancelled.
Fuck these exempts. Can’t even do the right thing and give actual advance notice. Nobody gives a fuck about us.
The next time you fucking exempts are spewing your bullshit about officer wellness because another CPD Officer committed suicide, remember this. You are ruining marriages, lives, and families and you don’t have the decency to give a couple days notice heads up for things.
It’s not about the days being cancelled you idiots. It’s about treating us like fucking human beings.
I've been on medical since they started making us wear masks can't do it hypoxia get dizzy light headed wearing the mask can't do the job!
FOP needs to address this to the city and to the media and in the contract this cancelation of RDO's and the implement of 12 hours every time CPD has a twitch up their ass !
“So now that I read this post this makes me recircle to my thoughts on CFD. How is it fire works a 24 hour shift but cops can't? Just thinking aloud here. I know a paramedic for CFD and they are busy 24 7.
8/27/2020 02:46:00 AM“
Two very different jobs. CFD has a fire house where they have a kitchen and beds and the ability to get shut eye or relaxation during down time. Cops would just be stuck sitting in a car or a chair in police station for 24 hours. And if you’re in a busy district? The calls don’t stop coming in. You’re trying to manage often times very angry people who hate you in volatile situations and times where force may have to be used. Possibly even deadly force. I don’t think it would be wise to send a cop to an active shooter situation when he’s on his 23rd hour of work after answering 80+ calls. Or to a person with a gun. Or into any other many dangerous situations where we wouldn’t be fully alert because we’ve been handling calls in the ghetto for 23 hours and we end up getting severely hurt or killed. Again, we don’t have beds couches and kitchens. I want you to hop in your car for 24 hours, several times an hour you have to go break up a drunken ghetto domestic, get screamed at as if you’re the source of someone’s problems, go to the homicide, possibly get into some fights. And the only reprieve you get is 30 minutes to eat a cold sandwich at a shitty asbestos ridden police station all the while dispatch is still trying to give you jobs.
Anonymous said...
I'm so tired
I haven't slept a wink
8/27/2020 12:43:00 AM
Such a good song.
The White Album is the most underappreciated Beatles album.
Never forget...
Happiness is a Warm Gun.
Don't be a baby. Of course you can do it.
One minute before finishing your tour... the long dreadful tour... just let your supervisor know how you feel. Head ache, dizzy,exhaustion, woozy, droopy eyes, hungry, thirsty, dry mouth, sore back, sore neck, sore feet, etc... Then go to the hospital. Sleep. Eat, drink, rest, and of course get medical care.
When you are well and cleared by the doctor come back to the unit and sign out. Submit overtime request.
Hit iod. Rest, eat, drink and repeat. What's the problem? No really... What's your problem?
Time to set up police parking lots as camp grounds
The Rubicon river is being crossed as we speak...get a good night sleep.
Irrevocably commit to a course of action, make a fateful and final decision. This phrase alludes to Julius Caesar's crossing the Rubicon River (between Italy and Gaul) in 49 b.c., thereby starting a war against Pompey and the Roman Senate.
The easy answer is you feel sick after working the first shift.
No one can argue with you.
Call in sick due to fatigue. Problem solved.
8/27/2020 12:34:00 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No cop worth anything would think less of you. If you were supposed to be in 811 on that day protecting my neighborhood, I still don't care. Take the time off. We will understand.
Thank you for your service and stay safe.
——-
Ok, but I could give a fuck what some copper thinks of me when I hit it. If you’re bid to your watch and not part of the LT’s special group HIT THE MEDICAL! Let the favorites hump in the heat for 12 hours. What you got to lose?
I can't wait to GTFOH.
So now that I read this post this makes me recircle to my thoughts on CFD. How is it fire works a 24 hour shift but cops can't? Just thinking aloud here. I know a paramedic for CFD and they are busy 24 7.
First they can go back to station and rest /sleep on duty.
Second they work 1 out of 3 days.
In between going to law school (on city time)and commuting to his home in the western suburbs how does randy have time to put out these schedules?
People are waking up to the fact that Groot is like the
ex-executive Carly Fiorina. She was passable at best in her
efforts. That female executive thing sure wore thin.
As so it is with Groot. A "Double Minority" just don't cut it
anymore, babe. We need results.
When CPD does things like this, cancel RDO's, implement 12 hours, it just makes me want to retire more and more from this fuck'n shithole!!!!!! UNBELIEVABLE
I’m all for medical time if you need it, and I’m no company man but keep this in mind...we do what we do because we are called upon. Now that may have meaning to some and it may mean shit to others. I’m all for letting this shit hole burn and have my own plans to leave in A few years. However, I show up everyday for my brother and sister that stands out there and their families. Nothing else. Going on the medical hurts us. No one else. We have to stick together.
The CPD and maybe the whole city is exempt from OSHA regulations. Maybe there is some other agency to contact but it’s not OSHA for some reason.
8/27/2020 11:44:00 AM
All public sector employees in IL are covered by IL OSHA. Check out this 2017 ANNUAL REPORT which mentions several CPD recordable injuries: https://www2.illinois.gov/idol/Laws-Rules/safety/Documents/SafetyAnnualRpt%202017.pdf
If they are telling you that you aren’t covered, ask them to show you the paper that says that.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You could consider contacting Illinois OSHA and making a complaint.
=====
government employees are not covered by such rules.
8/27/2020 09:01:00 AM
In Illinois, which is an OSHA “state plan” state public sector employees are definitely covered—read this:
https://www2.illinois.gov/idol/Laws-Rules/safety/Pages/healthsafetyact.aspx
In response to Anon...8/27/2020 09:59:00 AM
I left RedBull on the shelves once I discovered kratom. Different kinds. I like Green Malay & Maeng Da blends. Much safer than the carbonated caffeine....and no crash...and non-addicting. Just take a break periodically to avoid tolerance, or better yet change blends. Plenty of online retailers & brands...most legit...just do a little DD. Don't pay more than $30 a 250g or $120/kg.
Anybody know or have contacts with the IL DOL Director, Michael Kleinik? Here’s what he said about workplace fatigue last year, and he specifically mentioned coppers:
Workplace Fatigue Is Nothing to Yawn At
SPRINGFIELD — Illinois Department of Labor Director Michael Kleinik joined with state and national safety experts to highlight the serious dangers posed by fatigue in the workplace, a growing problem and a focus of National Safety Month...
...Certain workers are more likely to suffer from workplace fatigue, especially those who work irregular or extended shifts, such as those in transportation, healthcare, police and fire fighters and others whose jobs require rotating shift work. But other factors, such as long commutes and simply not sleeping enough, can contribute to fatigue even for those with regular shifts.
Regardless the cause, workplace fatigue certainly increases the risk of injury and illness on the job. According to the U.S. Department of Labor, accident and injury rates are 18 percent greater during evening shifts and 30 percent greater during night shifts when compared to day shifts. Long shifts – 12-hour days – spike injury risk by almost 40 percent.
https://www2.illinois.gov/idol/News/Documents/National%20Safety%20Month%20fatigue%20press%20release.docx
7.32pm—Amen to that. You do this job for the officers on your right, your left, in front of you, in back of you. Not for any boss, politician or any citizen. Every copper that’s on the front lines with you.
PS—Fuck You Lori, we all know you read this blog, just like Rahm did
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I like how the order itself is dated 24 August 2020 which is Monday.....but you’re telling us TODAY the 27th that rdo’s are cancelled.
Fuck these exempts. Can’t even do the right thing and give actual advance notice. Nobody gives a fuck about us.
The next time you fucking exempts are spewing your bullshit about officer wellness because another CPD Officer committed suicide, remember this. You are ruining marriages, lives, and families and you don’t have the decency to give a couple days notice heads up for things.
It’s not about the days being cancelled you idiots. It’s about treating us like fucking human beings.
8/27/2020 02:32:00 P
These exempts don’t know anything about officer’s wellness or leadership. There are no qualifications for the ranks of commander and above. Anyone can be promoted to a gold star on this job. Just look around.
“So now that I read this post this makes me recircle to my thoughts on CFD. How is it fire works a 24 hour shift but cops can't? Just thinking aloud here. I know a paramedic for CFD and they are busy 24 7.
Are you at all serious? They have time to build the stamina for that shift and can sleep before any call and they are off for days after their shift. Going from 8.5 hours days to 12+ hour days is a huge jump, zero time to wind down, family issues, home maintenance issues the list goes on. What if you're a single parent? How about we let long haul truck drivers drive for 24 hours, recipe for disaster.
Anonymous said...
I’m all for medical time if you need it, and I’m no company man but keep this in mind...we do what we do because we are called upon. Now that may have meaning to some and it may mean shit to others. I’m all for letting this shit hole burn and have my own plans to leave in A few years. However, I show up everyday for my brother and sister that stands out there and their families. Nothing else. Going on the medical hurts us. No one else. We have to stick together.
8/27/2020 07:32:00 PM
I’m not advocating for not looking out for one another, but you must first & foremost make sure you are not only physically well enough but mentally well enough. People need to pay attention to their bodies & minds. If something is telling you - take a day or two then do it! You can’t take care of your co-worker exhausted, dead or worse- arrested for doing your job because you were too tired to make the best decisions.
Less than 24hr notice. Work 1600-0400 on RDO and double back to start @ 0700 for regular tour. Last time it was 1800-0600 and be back to start @ 0700. How is this allowed? Oh right, “it’s an emergency.” I’ve never seen this department care less for us. It’s only getting worse. Officers are exhausted. Families are broken. The city was lost. Morale couldn’t be further in the toilet. Bosses not willing to fight for their troops for a realistic schedule. Sad how they forgot where they came from. Somebody is going to get killed working these hours. Stay safe, brothers and sisters in blue!
To think I was gonna pull my papers due to financial
hardship, cause of COVID.
I’ll take all the OT you wanna throw at me and get the
fuck out this year.
Around 60 working days left, but who’s counting.
Good riddance to a bad city.
So my furlough ends today but I added 4 rdo’s for this weekend. Since it’s part of my extended furlough, can they call me in?
Section 23.2 —
Furlough Scheduling
An Officer shall select his or her furlough within the unit of assignment, or if detailed for 28 days or more prior to the date selection begins, within the unit of detail on the basis of seniority among the Officers on the Officer’s assigned watch. Officers may elect to take their full furlough or split the furlough to which they are entitled into two equal segments. Both furloughs, if split, shall be determined in one process and on the basis of seniority. A full furlough will commence on the 1st day of a police period. A split furlough will commence on either the 1st or 15th day of a police period.
Compensatory time furloughs will not be scheduled for Officers who split their annual furloughs; however, such Officers shall be allowed to take a compensatory time furlough by utilizing elective days between regularly-scheduled weekends off, subject to manpower requirements.
Furlough schedules may be adjusted to accommodate seasonal operations, significant revision in organization, work assignments or the number of personnel in particular ranks.
The day-off group of an Officer on furlough (full or split) will not be changed during the remainder of the week in which the Officer is scheduled to return, unless an Officer who is required to work on his or her scheduled day(s) off during that week is compensated by the payment of premium benefits under Article 20 for all hours worked on his or her scheduled day off.
Officers who elect to either split their annual furloughs into two segments or take a full annual furlough will be returned to the day-off group they were in at the time their furlough or furlough segments were selected. Affected Officers will notify their unit commanding officer two (2) weeks prior to the beginning of the furlough segment if their day-off group must be changed to match the
35 original group. The change in day-off group should take place on the Sunday preceding the first day of the furlough segment.
I think I’d submit a statement to W/C that you’re reporting to work per orders given and that you’re doing so under duress ..so if something happens hopefully you’ll be covering you ass..
8/27/2020 02:12:00 PM
I think you'd be sent for a fitness for duty exam. That's one of the dumbest things I've heard. If going to work causes that much duress. Go see a shrink and get a light duty spot
Anonymous said...
I think I’d submit a statement to W/C that you’re reporting to work per orders given and that you’re doing so under duress ..so if something happens hopefully you’ll be covering you ass..
It won’t, you need to go on the medical if you’re exhausted.
Anonymous said...
Get off work at 0400 and back to work at 0600? I don't think so. Get your sleep and then go to work. What are they going to do, dock you? And if you have a boss with balls, he/or she will carry you for the hours you miss. In fact they would have TOLD you to come in late.
8/27/2020 11:13:00 AM
**Not if you work in the 19th District...Cpt Overtime will reject your slip if it doesn't match your swipes!!! But Im sure the rest of his "Team" will get all the overtime they want including the thief himself. Fuck him..I hear a lawsuit against him is coming out.
The firehouse kitchen is always open to cops from our district to stop in for a cup of coffee and break from the nonsense.
07:48:00 AM
I refuse to come in to work due to the mistreatment of blacks by the American criminal justice system not keeping them in jail.
Now that should be CPD’s stance.
No reason to cancel RDO's and implement 12 hours days before Labor Day. No reason at all. CPD is run by a bunch of idiot's!!!!
Once again we have no time due restrictions to go along with the current fuckery. I can burn a slip for a day I'm supposed to be at work but an officer who is rdo has to go in. It would be interesting to see what would happen if I didn't go in for my rdo and took the spar. Then filed a grievance when the subsequent recommended punishment came down. It would be a royal pain in the ass but might eventually win the grievance in 4 or 5 years.
fuck em and stay safe guys and gals retired and watching from the sidelines now days
I never made so much money doing jack shit. Maybe a tiny blister from tapping the snooze button. FU Little Feet.
I am on the medical and no one has even offered to bring a couple of Big Macs to me. With all the overtime money that everyone is making. A gesture like that is expected. We are supposed to look out for each other. Stay safe everyone.
"...society treats firefighters as heroes..."
The worst thing is that firemen believe that myth.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Is there a single good boss on this job? If so, they don’t work in 018, after working in another district and then coming to 018 to see the other side of things it’s clear that that place is run by clowns. When do district bids come out, I’m headed back west.
Good bosses are a thing of the past.
"...I am on the Medical and no one has even offered to bring a couple of Big Macs to me..." I
If that is code for what I think you mean, I will be upright over cutie.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
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